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A11327
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A treatyse concerni[n]ge the power of the clergye and the lawes of the realme. Cu[m] priuilegio regali.
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Saint German, Christopher, 1460?-1540.
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STC 21588; ESTC S108136
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have_v pretend_v in_o time_n past_o /_o that_o the_o clergy_n shall_v have_v both_o power_n /_o that_o be_v to_o say_v spunal_n &_o temporal_a /_o with_o answer_n to_o the_o same_o reason_n the_o xviii_o chapter_n ♣_o the_o first_o reason_n be_v this_o ovre_n lord_n say_v to_o his_o discyple_n math._n xviii_o quodcumque_fw-la ligaveritis_fw-la suê‘_n terram_fw-la erit_fw-la ligatum_fw-la et_fw-la in_o celo_fw-la et_fw-la quodcumque_fw-la solueritis_fw-la super_fw-la terram_fw-la erit_fw-la solutum_fw-la et_fw-la in_o celo_fw-la and_o than_o they_o say_v that_o he_o that_o give_v they_o auctorite_n to_o bind_v and_o lose_v all_o thing_n /_o give_v they_o auctorite_n to_o make_v law_n of_o all_o thing_n and_o law_n of_o all_o thing_n can_v not_o be_v make_v without_o power_n /_o as_z well_o spyrytuall_a as_o temporal_a etc._n etc._n wherefore_o they_o say_v it_o must_v needs_o follow_v that_o the_o clergye_n have_v both_o power_n ¶_o the_o second_o reason_n also_o the_o apostle_n say_v to_o our_o lord_n luc._n xxi_o here_o be_v ii_o sword_n /_o and_z he_o answer_v that_o suffysith_v and_o than_o they_o say_v /_o that_z by_o these_o two_o sword_n be_v understande_v both_o power_n /_o that_z be_v to_o say_v spunall_n spiritual_a and_o temporal_a and_o than_o they_o say_v far_o /_o that_o if_o our_o lord_n have_v think_v â—hose_v power_n to_o moche_v for_o his_o apostelles_n /_o that_o he_o will_v not_o have_v say_v of_o the_o two_o sword_n /_o it_z suffysith_o /_o but_o it_o be_v to_o moche_v ¶_o the_o third_o reason_n also_o it_o be_v say_v mat._n xviii_o if_o thy_o brother_n offend_v the_o /_o correct_v he_o between_o he_o and_o the_o /_o and_z if_o he_o here_o the_o /_o thou_o haste_v win_v thy_o brother_n and_o if_o he_o here_o the_o nat_n /_o take_z with_o the_o one_o or_o two_o wytnesse_n and_o if_o he_o here_o the_o nat_n than_o /_o show_v it_o to_o the_o church_n /_o and_o if_o he_o hear_v not_o the_o church_n /_o let_v he_o be_v to_o the_o as_o a_o ethnyke_n and_o a_o publican_n and_o than_o they_o say_v that_o by_o those_o word_n show_v it_o to_o the_o church_n /_o be_v understande_v the_o spyritualtye_n and_o that_o /_o in_z that_o it_o be_v say_v /_o if_o thy_o brother_n offend_v the._n etc._n etc._n and_o show_v natte_n in_o what_o offence_n /_o that_o it_o be_v understande_v of_o all_o offence_n spiritual_a and_o temporal_a etc._n etc._n ¶_o the_o answer_n to_o these_o iii_o reason_n before_o /_o appear_v in_o the_o ix_o chapter_n of_o this_o book_n the_o four_o reason_n also_o it_o be_v write_v primo_fw-la ad_fw-la corinth_n two_o spiritualis_fw-la autem_fw-la iudicat_fw-la omne_fw-la et_fw-la ipse_fw-la a_o nemine_fw-la iudicatur_fw-la that_o be_v to_o say_v /_o a_z spiritual_a man_n judge_v all_o thing_n /_o and_z he_o be_v iuge_v of_o no_o man_n and_o than_o they_o say_v /_o than_z he_o that_o may_v iuge_v all_o thing_n have_v power_n as_o well_o spirytuall_a as_o temporal_a etc._n etc._n a_o answer_n to_o this_o four_o reason_n ¶_o the_o word_n of_o the_o apostle_n in_o this_o place_n be_v of_o this_o effect_n that_o the_o spiritual_a man_n /_o that_z be_v to_o say_v /_o a_z man_n that_o follow_v the_o iugement_n of_o the_o spirit_n /_o juge_v all_o thing_n as_o they_o be_v that_o be_v /_o thing_n worldly_a to_o be_v but_o vain_a /_o disceytfull_a /_o and_z of_o short_a abide_n /_o and_o thing_n ghostly_a to_o be_v sothfast_a /_o true_a /_o and_o always_o abide_a and_o over_o that_o for_o the_o more_o clear_o understand_v of_o this_o text_n of_o the_o apostel_n it_o be_v to_o understande_v that_o by_o this_o term_n spunall_n spiritual_a /_o be_v not_o understande_v spiritual_a man_n after_o the_o come_fw-mi use_v of_o speak_v /_o whereby_o all_o of_o the_o clergye_n be_v call_v spiritual_a man_n for_o it_o be_v no_o doubt_n but_o that_o many_o of_o the_o clergye_n be_v more_o worldly_a and_o more_o carnal_a than_o many_o of_o the_o lie_v man_n be_v and_o it_o be_v natte_n against_o the_o perfeccyon_n of_o the_o hole_n clergye_n /_o though_o they_o confess_v that_o some_o of_o they_o be_v so_o ne_o it_o stand_v not_o with_o charite_v /_o that_o if_o any_o man_n will_v lay_v abuse_n in_o soon_o of_o the_o clergye_a /_o that_o they_o shall_v therefore_o conjecture_v or_o make_v other_o to_o conjecture_v that_o he_o that_o so_o do_v love_v not_o preste_n /_o or_o hate_v their_o ministraconn_n and_o there_o wylbe_n no_o parfet_n unite_v as_o long_o as_o the_o clergy_n will_v rather_o find_v defaute_n at_o they_o that_o speak_v of_o such_o abusyon_n in_o the_o clergye_a /_o than_o to_o do_v that_o in_o they_o be_v to_o reform_v they_o /_o and_z so_o by_o that_o term_n spunall_n spiritual_a that_o the_o apostell_n speak_v of_o be_v understand_v a_o man_n that_o lyve_v after_o the_o spirit_n /_o as_o be_v say_v before_o and_o therefore_o he_o that_o take_v the_o text_n to_o be_v understande_v /_o that_o a_o spiritual_a man_n shall_v iuge_v all_o thing_n take_v by_o that_o term_n spiritual_a /_o the_z clergye_a take_v it_o clear_a contrary_n to_o the_o mind_n of_o the_o apostell_n etc._n etc._n the_o fyfth_o reason_n also_o it_o be_v write_v i_o corinth_n vi_fw-la nescitis_fw-la quia_fw-la angelos_fw-la iudicabitis_fw-la /_o quanto_fw-la magis_fw-la secularia_fw-la that_o be_v to_o say_v /_o know_v you_o not_o that_o you_o shall_v judge_v angel_n /_o how_o much_o more_o shall_v you_o judge_v secular_a thing_n whereby_o some_o of_o the_o clergye_n have_v say_v that_o the_o clergye_n ought_v to_o iuge_v secular_a thing_n for_o they_o say_v that_o the_o say_a epystell_n be_v write_v to_o the_o clergye_n at_o corinth_n etc._n etc._n a_o answer_n to_o this_o u_o reason_n ¶_o the_o word_n of_o the_o apostle_n that_o be_v recite_v in_o this_o v._o reason_n /_o be_v speak_v to_o all_o the_o cristian_n at_o corinth_n and_o not_o only_o to_o the_o clergy_n there_o as_o it_o appear_v in_o the_o first_o chapter_n of_o the_o seyd_v second_o epistell_n to_o the_o cor_n for_o it_o be_v make_v to_o his_o discyple_a tymothye_a et_fw-fr ecclesie_n dei_fw-la que_fw-la est_fw-la corinth_n that_o be_v /_o to_z thymothy_n and_o to_o the_o church_n of_o god_n that_o be_v at_o corinth_n and_o by_o that_o term_n the_o church_n of_o god_n at_o corinth_n /_o be_v understande_v the_o hole_n congregation_n of_o the_o faithful_a people_n at_o corinthe_n /_o &_o that_o they_o all_o shall_v iuge_a angel_n that_o be_v to_o say_v /_o that_o they_o shall_v approve_v the_o sentence_n of_o god_n give_v upon_o angel_n good_a &_o bad_a /_o as_z every_o good_a crysten_v man_n shall_v and_o not_o only_o that_o the_o clergy_n shall_v do_v it_o and_o therefore_o they_o that_o take_v that_o text_n to_o be_v speak_v only_o to_o the_o clergy_n /_o take_v it_o contrary_n to_o the_o text_n /_o and_o also_o contrary_a to_o the_o mind_n of_o the_o appostell_n etc._n etc._n the_o vi_o reason_n also_o gene._n i._n it_o be_v say_v /_o god_n make_v ii_o great_a light_v the_o son_n that_o be_v the_o spiritualtye_n /_o that_o it_o shall_v govern_v the_o day_n /_o that_o be_v to_o say_v thing_n spunall_n spiritual_a and_o the_o moan_n that_o be_v the_o emperor_n or_o the_o king_n /_o that_o it_o shall_v govern_v the_o night_n that_o be_v to_o say_v /_o temporal_a thing_n but_o the_o moan_n have_v no_o light_n /_o but_z of_o the_o son_n and_o no_o more_o have_v the_o king_n or_o emperor_n but_o of_o the_o spyritualtye_n etc._n etc._n and_o therefore_o they_o say_v that_o the_o clergye_n have_v both_o power_n /_o the_z one_o in_o possessyon_n /_o the_o other_o in_o right_n howbeit_o that_o they_o have_v commit_v the_o ministracyon_n of_o thing_n temporal_a /_o to_z temporal_a man_n a_o answer_n to_o this_o vi_o reason_n ¶_o that_o exposition_n whereby_o the_o spiritualtye_n be_v compare_v to_o the_o son_n /_o and_o the_o temporaltye_n to_o the_o moan_n in_o the_o say_v vi_o reason_n /_o be_v no_o lytterall_a exposition_n /_o and_o there_o be_v no_o sense_n of_o scripture_n suffycient_a to_o prove_v a_o argument_n by_o but_o only_o the_o lytterall_a sense_n and_o so_o that_o vi_o reason_n be_v of_o small_a effect_n to_o prove_v that_o the_o clergye_n have_v both_o power_n /_o for_z it_o may_v as_o lyght_o be_v deny_v as_o afferm_v the_o seven_o reason_n also_o theodosius_n themperour_n enact_v /_o and_o charles_n conferm_v it_o that_o who_o soever_o have_v any_o varyaunce_n and_o will_v put_v it_o to_o the_o iugement_n of_o the_o bysshoppe_n etc._n etc._n that_o anon_o without_o any_o douting_a it_o shall_v be_v send_v to_o the_o iugement_n of_o the_o bishop_n ex_fw-la de_fw-fr iudiciis_fw-la ca._n novit_fw-la a_o answer_n to_o this_o vii_o reason_n ¶_o though_o theodosius_n enact_v &_o charles_n conferm_v it_o /_o
fro_o the_o communyon_n of_o the_o good_a people_n /_o &_o to_o command_v the_o good_a people_n also_o to_o eschew_v their_o company_n /_o &_o to_o make_v absolution_n thereof_o again_o etc._n etc._n which_o be_v great_a power_n and_o may_v do_v great_a good_a if_o they_o be_v charytable_o put_v in_o executyon_n but_o if_o they_o will_v declare_v the_o said_a text_n /_o in_o such_o manner_n that_o they_o shall_v thereby_o take_v power_n from_o prince_n which_o christ_n leave_v unto_o they_o /_o or_z to_o exalte_n their_o own_o power_n more_o than_o christ_n give_v unto_o they_o than_o prince_n may_v resy_v their_o declaration_n therein_o yea_o /_o &_o be_v bind_v to_o do_v it_o /_o &_o there_o prince_n ought_v to_o be_v iuges_fw-la take_v such_o of_o the_o clergy_n unto_o they_o as_o they_o shall_v think_v convenyent_n whereof_o undouted_o there_o be_v right_a many_o that_o will_v not_o be_v blind_v with_o such_o worldly_a honour_n and_o vanyte_v and_o so_o it_o seem_v that_o the_o seyd_a text_n /_o quodcumque_fw-la ligaveritis_fw-la etc._n etc._n shall_v be_v take_v specyal_o accord_v to_o theffecte_n of_o the_o other_o auctority_n before_o rehearse_v and_o not_o only_o accord_v to_o the_o lytterall_a sense_n of_o the_o same_o text_n also_o though_o some_o man_n have_v say_v that_o our_o lord_n give_v to_o his_o discyple_n both_o power_n that_o be_v to_o say_v spiritual_a and_o temporal_a /_o when_o the_o apostle_n say_v unto_o he_o luc._n xxii_o lord_n /_o here_o be_v two_o sword_n /_o and_o he_o answer_v that_o be_v enough_o and_o that_o he_o shall_v mean_v thereby_o that_o he_o will_v that_o they_o shall_v have_v both_o power_n /_o for_z if_o he_o have_v not_o mean_v so_o /_o he_z will_v not_o have_v say_v of_o the_o ii_o sword_n /_o it_o be_v enough_o but_o it_o be_v to_o moche_v and_o that_o therefore_o prince_n have_v have_v since_o that_o time_n their_o temporal_a power_n of_o the_o spiritual_a power_n to_o that_o it_o may_v be_v answer_v /_o that_o those_o word_n be_v never_o speak_v of_o those_o two_o power_n /_o as_z the_o letter_n of_o the_o seyd_a gospel_n plain_o declare_v for_o the_o letter_n be_v this_o our_o lord_n a_o lyttel_n before_o his_o passion_n /_o say_v to_o his_o discyple_n thus_o when_o i_o send_v you_o with_o out_o seek_v /_o scryppe_v /_o or_o shoe_n do_v you_o want_v any_o thing_n and_o they_o say_v nay_o than_o he_o say_v unto_o they_o but_o now_o he_o that_o have_v a_o seek_v let_v hin_a also_o take_v his_o scryppe_v and_o he_o that_o have_v no_o sword_n /_o let_v he_o sell_v his_o cote_n and_o buy_v a_o sword_n /_o for_z i_o say_v to_o you_o that_o it_o behove_v that_o that_o be_v write_v of_o i_o shall_v be_v fulfyl_v et_fw-la cum_fw-la iniquis_fw-la deputatus_fw-la est_fw-la that_o be_v to_o say_v he_o be_v account_v among_o wyke_v man_n and_o than_o he_o say_v further_o and_o true_o though_o thing_n that_o be_v write_v of_o i_o be_v nigh_o at_o a_o end_n to_o be_v fulfyl_v and_o than_o they_o say_v /_o lord_n /_o lo_o here_o be_v two_o sword_n /_o and_z he_o say_v unto_o they_o /_o it_z be_v enough_o and_o lyre_n which_o treat_v princypal_o upon_o the_o lytterall_a sense_n of_o scripture_n /_o say_v that_o tho_o word_n be_v speak_v by_o our_o lord_n to_o instruct_v his_o discyple_n /_o that_o sometime_o it_o be_v lawful_a for_o a_o man_n to_o defend_v himself_o moderate_o from_o persecutor_n /_o and_o that_o therefore_o the_o appostelles_n be_v at_o that_o time_n well_o courage_v to_o defend_v themselves_o /_o regarge_v more_o though_o word_n that_o our_o lord_n speak_v of_o the_o sword_n /_o than_z they_o do_v either_o of_o their_o seckê_n or_o of_o their_o scripbe_n and_o therefore_o they_o answer_v /_o here_o be_v two_o sword_n /_o &_o than_o he_o know_v that_o it_o be_v the_o will_n of_o his_o father_n that_o he_o shall_v suffer_v death_n for_o redemption_n of_o man_n say_v it_o be_v enough_o as_o though_o he_o have_v say_v /_o those_o two_o sword_n suffice_v and_o be_v enough_o to_o defend_v i_o fro_o death_n aswell_o as_o many_o thousand_o of_o sword_n shall_v do_v /_o for_z i_o that_o accord_v to_o the_o will_n of_o my_o father_n will_v wilful_o suffer_v death_n for_o man_n look_v for_o no_o defence_n of_o sword_n this_o seem_v to_o be_v the_o intent_n why_o he_o say_v of_o the_o two_o sword_n /_o it_o be_v enough_o /_o &_o not_o to_o sygnyfye_v thereby_o that_o thappostelle_n shall_v have_v both_o power_n spiritual_a and_o temporal_a /_o and_o if_o it_o shall_v be_v take_v to_o be_v mean_v so_o it_o shall_v not_o be_v by_o a_o literal_a sense_n /_o &_o after_o saint_n augustyn_n and_o saint_n hierome_n /_o it_o be_v only_o of_o the_o lytterall_a sense_n of_o holy_a scripture_n that_o a_o suffycient_a argument_n may_v be_v take_v /_o &_o so_o we_o think_v those_o word_n to_o bear_v but_o a_o small_a effect_n any_o thing_n to_o abate_v the_o power_n of_o prince_n and_o where_o some_o man_n have_v say_v that_o the_o clergye_n have_v authority_n by_o the_o gospel_n to_o here_o all_o cause_n that_o shall_v be_v show_v unto_o they_o by_o any_o manner_n of_o complaint_n and_o that_o that_o shall_v appear_v by_o the_o wordê_n that_o our_o lord_n say_v math._n xviii_o if_o thy_o brother_n offend_v the_o correct_v he_o between_o he_o and_o the_o only_a /_o and_o if_o he_o here_o that_o thou_o have_v win_v thy_o brother_n /_o and_o if_o he_o here_o the_o nat_n /_o take_z with_o the_o one_o or_o two_o wytnes_n /_o and_o if_o he_o here_o the_o nat_n than_o /_o than_z show_v it_o to_o the_o chyrche_n /_o and_o if_o he_o hear_v not_o the_o church_n /_o let_v he_o be_v to_o the_o like_o a_o ethenyke_n and_o a_o publycan_n /_o and_o that_o in_o somoch_n that_o the_o gospel_n command_v to_o show_v the_o offence_n to_o the_o chyrch_n /_o &_o show_v not_o in_o what_o case_n that_o it_o shall_v therefore_o be_v understande_v in_o all_o case_n /_o and_o that_o because_o it_o be_v say_v /_o show_v it_o to_o the_o chyrche_fw-fr /_o that_o it_o be_v 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