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A51484 A peaceable method for the re-uniting Protestants and Catholicks in matters of faith principally in the subject of the Holy Eucharist : proceeding upon principles agreed-on and waving points in dispute : upon occasion of the late conceit concerning the perpetuity of faith touching that great mystery / written in French by Lewis Mainbourg. Maimbourg, Louis, 1610-1686.; T. W. 1672 (1672) Wing M293; ESTC R26797 72,644 198

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made appear why those other subsequent Councils which had the same Promise of special assistance from him who was and is able to make his Word good may not be supposed to have proceeded according to the same Rule of those former defining and declaring according to the express and plain words of the Canonical Scriptures and who it is by the express and plain words of the said Canonical Scriptures who has received Commission to Judge of the Case But lastly which is chiefly to my present purpose does not here an High Court of Parliament the Legislative obliging Power of the Nation with the assent of the Clergy in their Convocation assert and assume unto themselves as absolute an Authority of Determining matters of Faith and declaring Heresies c. as was ever yet challenged by any Body-Politick or Ecclesiastical Many other proceedings of Parliaments Canons and Constitutions of Synocts might be alledged were not the matter of fact so obvious and well known to every one that it acquits me of that labour And now if all this to a common English mans understanding does not speak a claim of an Authority obliging all to submission and conformity I think we are very much to seek for expressions And certainly supposing what was supposed there could be nothing more rational or conformable to those first Councils we all so much receive as also to the manifest letter of or evident deductions from Holy Writ it self Mat. 1● 17 If he shall not hear the Church let him be accounted as a Heathen or Publican And why Because it is in Christianity to be supposed that there is a Church and that this Church the true Spouse of Jesus Christ is the Pillar and Foundation of Truth 1 Tim. 3.15 This then being granted and I think he must be very bold who dares reject the Authority of so many eminent Persons or contemn their publick proceedings I perswade my self I need not be very solicitous for Instances drawn from the Council of Dort Certainly we have as special and as remarkable ones neerer home for the making good an Agreement upon this great Maxithe That there is in the Church of Christ wherever that is a Soveraign Authority obliging Christians in matters of Faith to submission and conformity The Consequence has been the chief endeavour of this small Tract And I hope it will be seriously reflected upon how necessarily not to say unavoidably the Premises usher it in But because I see there are some for what reasons and foreseen consequences I will not passe my conjecture who have endeavoured to find out new Glosses not onely for the Scriptures but also for Acts and Statutes of Parliaments Canons and Constitutions of Councils even with seeming violence to the Lawes of the Nation and the Decrees of their own Mother-Church telling us that nothing is meant or intended by the said Acts and Decrees c. but onely an obligation to exteriour Conformity and Non contradiction I will still adhere to my Authours peceable Method hoping they will take me for one who desires to deal civilly If I require no more at present for the making good what this Author pretends to For I am very much inclined to believe that this kind of Conformity or Non contradiction supposed obligatory and practised in due time and place when differences first appeared would have left a much more easie way for composing and reducing unsetled and unquiet spirits and would have brought them by little and little into so pleasant a path as would have led them in a short time into the high way of happy peace and union For were the liberty of that voluble member Jac. 3.8 that Inquietum malum of the tongue so apt either out of vanity or presumption to break out into expressions of our interiour sentiments effectually restreyned it were much to be hoped those troubled and troublesome fancies which insect the understanding would by little and little sink or fall down so as to leave it to its natural clearness fitted of it self to receive better impressions either from Reason or just Authority Not that I think any rational man unless much put to his shifts can in earnest maintain this Negative kind of compliance to be sufficient for attaining the end pretended to which I suppose is an exteriour at least Conformity or Uniformity for the avoiding division and confusion For never was it yet heard of nor can it possibly be expected that the Index or Hand of a Watch or Clock should shew the right hour for any considerable time much less constantly unless the inward work or wheels be in good order Would to God there were not so sad experience of this practically certain Truth Those Divisions Sub-divisions and Subsub-divisions breaking into visible Confusions which certainly cannot be imagined the lawful Issue of true Christian Principles do to the eye demonstrate that there is something wanting that this is not the way intended by him who came to bring Peace to the World and who promised his constant Presence for the maintaining of it to the worlds end not by a visible appearance but invisible assistance of that Church which he commands all to hearken unto and obey under so severe a penalty as being accounted upon default Heathens and Publicans To conclude let me be so bold as to desire these Gentlemen who go so far at least as to think this Exteriour Conformity or Non-contradiction obliging and necessary to take the pains to reflect soberly whether this which they do and must grant does not oblige them to make one step further and upon the same grounds either of authority whether Humane or Divine or principles of reason or for the necessary avoiding experienced inconveniences to allow an obedience and assent of an higher nature The Authorities of Scriptures and Fathers are alledged as plausibly for it The reasons taken either from the experienced insufficiency of the one Cause or the just and exact proportion of the other to the so much desired effect of peace and unity are demonstrable As the inconveniences and continual disturbances of the one Part are but too too visible so the setled quiet and comfort of Spirit which the other constantly enjoyes are experimentally best known to those who upon the first appearance of difficulties and debates flye to the bosome and rely upon the Judgement and Determination of the Church owned by all who call themselves Christians to have some degree of Power and Authority and the extent thereof not to be regulated or confined she being the Soveraign and Supreme Court of this nature but by her own declaration onely Demonstrably not to be judged or regulated in case of debate by particular Parties who for the avoiding otherwise unavoidable confusion are themselves by her to be regulated and judged Now which Church this must needs be is not hard to discover out of the foregoing Discourse wherein Differences and Debates are brought to their first rise when the Parties dissenting were both ownedly members and subjects of the same Church and which Church by legal Consequence was their lawful Judge as being then the onely and by a necessary Sequel the True Church and that firm Rock against which the Promise of God himself is upon Record that the Gates of Hell should never prevail FINIS ERRATA PAge ● Line 15 read Defeats p. 8 in the margin r. inferri p. 13 l. 16 for ther r. three p. 33 l 7 in the marg add sed p. 35 l. 12 dele which p. 50 l. 8 r to the Word p. 70 l. 27 in the marg r ●liter p. 7 l. 28 r sin p. 89 l. 10 r of the Word p. 91 l 27 r Eeuthericus p. 103 l. 1 r into p. 06 l. 9 r Representative p. 114 l. 11 r to their fancy p. 116 l. 11 r Contests p. 121 l. 7 for by-wayes r by wayes 122 l. 23 r clucidation p. 124 3 for decision r devision Ibid. l. 7 for accordingly r avowedly p. 125 l. 3 for Sentences r Sentiments p. 128 l. 23 r Licinensis p. 1●0 l. 18 r preposterous p. 144 l. 2 for when r which
please to furnish me with and grant me of their own accords 8. And to oblige my self to perform it with as much clarity and brevity withal as may possibly be I will conclude the matter in these three Chapters following In the first I will propose the Maxime or Principle which I intend to make use of and I will establish it by the Doctrine and proceedings of Prorestants themselves In the second I will apply it according to their own Rules unto the Subject of the Holy Eucharist And in the last I will draw those Consequences which their own agreed-upon Principles do afford me This seems to me the way to force our Adversaries but sweetly to return of themselves to that True Faith from which a miserable Schisme has unfortunately separated them by the revolt of their Fore-fathers I am not able to say what success I am like to have in so noble an enterprise My endeavours nevertheless shall not be wanting to effect it upon those terms which I have prefixed unto my self At least I intend to secure this advantage that having no litigious quarrel with these Gentlemen if I prove not so fortunate as to perswade them into and reduce them to the obedience of the Holy Church I will not at least interrupt that civil peace and sociable tranquillity we all enjoy under the Authority of the Lawes of our Gracious King by words and expressions which are apt sometimes to sound too loud and bite too sharply I will not I say have my part in those too bitter and violent expressions which the earnestness of Disputation is naturally apt to lead a man ●●to unless more than ordinary care be used for the checking them Finally I will avoid the bitterness of those obstinate Contests which are too frequently accompanied with that sharpness and animosity which is not at all beseeming the civil breeding of this Age nor this happy time of Peace when all our wor●● ought to carry a certain sweetness with them which may inspire and maintain Union and Charity CHAP. II. The settling of this general Maxime That that Church in which are found the two Parties concern'd has ever had the Power to determine all differences and to declare that as matter of Faith which before there was no obligation to believe And that we are bound to acquiesce unto her decisions under the penalty of being Schismaticks 1. THere is not any one to be sound among those who bear the name of Christians who does not acknowledge that there is in the World a True Church which our Lord Jesus has purchased with the price of his own most pretious Blood All those who have separated themselves from us into so many several Sects declaring that their Congregation is the Company of the Faithful and the Church of God agree at least in this that they hold for certain that there is a True Church of Jesus Christ wheresoever it is to be found It is moreover evident that those who first entred into Dispute concerning matters of Faith were all of the same Church which Church before it did declare for either side of the Dissenters and before one Party made a separation was the onely then in being and consequently the True Church Now of this Church it is I intend to speak and I averr that all generally do agree that She is endowed with Soveraign Authority to define and propose that as matter of Faith which antecedently to her definition no body perchance was obliged to accept under that notion 2. For proof of this Verity which is not well to be denied when understood this reflexion is to be made out of St. Paul to the Romans Chap. 10 That to be bound to believe a thing as a Point of Faith it is not sufficient that it be contained in the Word of God which is the onely motive of divine Faith but it is also necessary that we know it and that we know it as revealed by God For to know it we must hear of it and for this purpose regularly speaking it is necessary that it be proposed by full Authority as the formal words of the blessed Apostle do clearly import How shall they believe him whom they have not heard Quomodo credent in quem non audierunt Quomodo autem audient sine praedicante Quomodo autem praedicabunt nisi mittantur Rom. 10. v. 14 15. Ergo fides ex auditu auditus autem per verbum Christi v. 17. and how shall they hear without a Preacher but how shall they Preach unless they be sent There is then no obligation to believe without a previous instruction concerning an A●●icle of Faith and this cannot be without the Ministry of those who are appointed by the Church to propose her Doctrine which Doctrine is grounded upon the Word of God In regard of this the Apostle concludes in this manner Faith then is by hearing and hearing is by the Word of Christ Thus for there is no difference betwixt us and Protestants They do own that for this end it is necessary there should be in the Church Ministers of the Word of God for the proposing by her Authority that which is contained in the Divine Word They profess that in order to an obligation of believing any particular point it is necessary that it be distinctly known and that it be proposed by some legal Authority to be believed 3. This notwithstanding there are many things which we are now obliged to believe which were not distinctly known at some other time nor proposed unto the Faithful as Points belonging to Faith and necessarily to be believed by them It is a verity which no Protestant I think will make difficulty in For I will now grant them that all that we are to believe is contained in the Word of God which we have received in the Holy Scriptures and which the blessed Apostles have delivered unto us having first received it of their Divine Master Christ Jesus But I hope also they will not stick to acknowledge that all that is comprehended in Holy Writ whether in the sence of the Letter or in the Consequences which are included in those Divine Principles has not alwayes been clearly and distinctly known by all persons and at all times It is an admirable sure of Tapistry wrought by the hand of God himself and framed with a most rare variety of gracefull figures both for ornament and instruction of his Church but it was not from the beginning exposed all at once to view These rare lineaments did not appear but by degrees as it happened that the pieces were unfolded one after another upon occasions It is a most fertile soil which bears a marvellous variety of sweet flowers of excellent fruit and all sorts of choice grain in its bowells as it were inclosed or shut up in the seeds which are as so many Treasures with which she is inriched but you must expect till the Sun disclose and discover them making them spring and bud
against the Custome and practice of the first Council of Nice of Constantinople of Ephesus of Calcedon where the Bishops who were from the first against the opinions of Arius Maced●nius Nestorius and Eutyches did not cease notwithstanding to be their lawful Judges in those sacred Assemblies which represented the Church unto which all Parties owed subjection That if that Protestation were admitted as reasonable it never was The Judgement of the Divines of Hesse nor ever could be possible to assemble a lawful Council for the deciding of Controversies and suppressing of Errors fince the most zealous Pastors and the ablest Divines were alwayes those who either by Word of Mouth or by Writing made chief opposition against such Opinions as they esteemed Heretical That if one upon such grounds must lose his right of assisting at Councils The Judgement of the Divines of Bremen all the Heresies imaginable might be eflablished without refrstance none opposing them for fear of bringing so great a prejudice upon themselves That it cannot be said upon that score that a man is judge in his own cause because in Contests of that nature when it is in question Which is Orthodox Doctrine it is not properly the Cause of every or any particular person but it is in reality the Cause of God and his Holy Church which is in agitation That for the deciding of this The Judgement of the Divines of the Palatinat when Disputes do arise we are not to apply our selves to the Jews and Gentiles who may seem nenters in the case as having no interest in either Opinion but that it ought to be referred to the Pastors and Brethren of the same Church being met together to decide it according the Word of God Optat. Milevit l. 5. advers Parmenian whatever Opinion they happened to be of during the time of the Contest And finally that Sentence being given by the Assembly submission is to be yielded and that if the Remonstrators do refuse to conforme adhering still to their Protestation they do thereby declare that they do renounce Communion with the Reformed Churches and that in that case it belongs to the Soveraign Power to determine what is to be done In these very words did the Divines of Geneva declare themselves Upon this the Deputies of the States General declared against the Protestanon of the Remonstrators that the National Synod was lawful and Soveraig● Judge in this Controversy as the same Synod had formerly declared in the 26. Autoritatem ejus non defugerent sed eandem pro legitimo causae judice agnoscerent Session In pursuance hereof they summoned them to renounce their Proteslation and to give in Writing what they had to say in defence of their five Articles which in conclusion they did After this all the Reasons of both sides being fully examined in several Sessions Sess 138.24 Apr. 1619. the Synod Condemned the five Propositions of the Arminians as full of Error and contrary to the Word of God and forbad them to be held or taught in any of the Reformed Churches as also to admit any person to the Minislery who had not subscribed the contrary Doctrine which was approved as onely True and Orthodox by the Decree of the Council 2. Jul. 1619 The States General hereupon sent Orders into all the Provinces forbidding any other Doctrine to be taught but what did punctually agree with the Judgement of the Synod concerning these five Articles with express Command to all Governours and Magistrates to see the said Decrees exactly observed Moreover Barnevelt who had been the Head and chief Protector of the Remonstrators and had endeavoured in their defence to hinder the convocating of the National Synod was seised upon 24. Aug. 1618. and taken Prisoner some three months before the beginning of th● said Synod 14 May 1619. and four dayes after th● concluding thereof with a Condemn●tion of the Arminians was Condemned to dy Merc. Franc. To. 5. pag. 43 and was beheaded Because as is specified in the first and second Article of the Sentence given again●● him he had raised troubles in Religi● and contristated as much as in him lay the Church of God in maintaining a●● causing by his Partisans to be maintarxed and instill'd into the minds of ma●● people that extravagant and pernicion Maxime That it belongs to every particular Province within their Precinct●● to ordain of matters of Religion with●● any obligation of giving notice thereof 〈◊〉 other Provinces And for having pretested without Commission in the name of th● Provinces of Holland U●recht and Overisle that the Deputies of the other Province who did press for and forward the convocation of a National Synod would be th● cause and Authors of much danger 〈◊〉 mischief After this who can any longer question but the Protestant Churches 〈◊〉 England rance Germany Swisserland and the Low-Countries do hold as a Fundamental Maxime That in such Controversies as do arise concerning Doctrine in matters of Religion tho True Church of which the dissenting Parties are members has full and Soveraign Power to declare according to the Word of God what is of Faith and that there is an obligation of standing to her Decrees under pain of being Schismaticks We know very well also that in conformity with this priviledge and practise the like Synods have been held in France concerning some other Points wherein the Ministers were 〈◊〉 some variance and that it has been absolutely and authoritatively defined what was to be believed After which The Judge ment of the Divines of● Geneva it has not been held lawful to contest or argue for the contrary without incurring the penalty of being cut off from the Body of the Church and this because the Gospel sayes That he who does not admit of the decisious of the Church is to be accounted as an Infidel and Publican 9. Ordo obfervatur qualem Deus sancivit sanctificavit exemplo Apostolorum omnium aetatum Ecclesiae confirmavit reduetivè ad dictum Christi dic Ecclesiae si Ecclesiam non audierit c. The Divines of Geneva thought good to make use of this passage in the Judgement they gave against the Protestation of the Arminians to pro●● that Verity in the Synod of Dort whi●● also confirmed it Wherefore I do now before hand humbly befeech Monsieur Claude th●● he go not about to tell me that according to their Doctrine even the Tr● Church is not infallible and that sh● may have het errors Whether Monsieur Claude whom I hold to be ● man of too much Wit and Reason 〈◊〉 be of that opinion does for his parti● cular Quare in sententià omninò debent stare judicio corporis repraesentati per Synodum loquentem mandato ore ex sensu totius corporis nec licet ipsis corpus in partes vncare vel sibi adversarium fingere vels sibi jus corporis arrogar●● quod ipsis nullâ lege permi●titur really
who before their condemnation were of the same Church must not say that she is unchurched and that it is they themselves who now make up the Church under pain of being held not onely Schismaticks but also very extravagant fantastical persons And those who follow them after this and declare for them at what time soever it be become fully as criminal as those who first separated themselves from the Church in so unreasonable and so unjustifiable a manner This Assembly or Representative having examined the proofs and reasons on both sides and consulted with the Holy Scriptures which are the Rule of Faith has often declared that the Rea Presence and a substantial Change are to be believed and has condemned as an Heresie that opinion which stands for Real Absence Of all that I have now said I cannot imagin any one Point which can be call'd in question as I have stated the business And I think I have made it appear by the very words and Principles of Monsieur Claude himself that he is bound to agree with me in every particular since by following his own conduct we find our selves exactly and precisely in the state and condition of the Synod of Dort In the mean time those who first stood for a Real Absence against those who proposed a Real Presence when they saw themselves condemned by that Church of which they were and which before their condemnation was to all intents and purposes the real True Church as we are agreed undertake to say that she is not so and that they onely who maintain what she condemns do constitute the True Church Now according to the Principles a greed upon I cannot discover how they can avoid being held Schismaticks And by unavoidable consequence all those who have taken part with them these five hundred years must needs be subject to the same censure It being certain that they joyn with those who separated themselves from the True Church of Christ for no other reason but because they found themselves condemned by her It is true that that Church which is acknowledged to have been at that time the True Church was indeed the Church of Rome or Roman Church But what follows from thence according to the Principles agreed upon but that we must conclude for Her all that has been said in behalf of the True Church even by the consent of our adversaries themselves And that those who were of that Church before they withdrew themselves upon that Judgement she gave against them could not in reason and suffice say that she did now cease to be the True Church and that she misunderstood the meaning of Holy Scripture For she being the True Church as themselves grant before this happened 't was she that was Judge thereof according to the Decree of the Synod of Dort and not they who according to the same Synod were bound to submit to her Judgement and to hold that for the true sence of Scripture which she followed in her decisions All this is so clearly proved without mixture of any proofs by way of Disputation that I think I shall do well to stop here without pretending any further that I may peaceably draw those consequences which this great Principle affords us CHAP. IV. The Consequences which naturally flow from this Principle by a due application thereof 1. IN the second Chapter you may have seen how the True Church when contests do arise has power to decide them according to the Word of God and to propose that unto Christians as matter of Faith which antecedently to such decision they were not obliged to believe because it was not clearly and distinctly known but remained as yet involved in a general and confused knowledge In the third Chapter we did apply that uncontroulable Principle unto the subject of the Holy Eucharist and have clearly shewed that the Church of which the first contestors then were and which being the onely Church before separation made by one of the Parties was also the True Church did decide this matter according to method and Rule in favour of the Real Presence From these two Verities thus established even without Dispute and by-wayes we were all the way agreed upon taking along with us the thoughts of Monsieur Claude and allowing him whatsoever he was pleased to ask it will not be hard in this Chapter to to draw some consequences which offer themselves unto us and which it is impossible not to discover how little soever we desire to reflect upon what we have fairly and candidly acknowledged to be true 2. For first who does not see that it is necessarily inferred from thence that although the Real Presence had not been believed before the tenth Age which notwithstanding is a great mistake yet we are now obliged to believe it Because the True Church of which the first Contesting Parties were members and before their being condemned acknowledged her for such has put an end to the quarrel giving Sentence for and proposing as matter of Faith the said Real Presence Moreover that those first Abettors of a Real Absence by refusing to submit to her Judgement became Schismaticks and that all those who declared afterwards for that Faction are as faulty and in the same crime with them I do absolutely believe with the Authour of The Perpetuity c. that considering some circumstances and certain matters of fact which cannot be denied it was morally impossible that such an insensible change should have been made by passing imperceptibly from a belief which is pretended to have been of a Real Absence to that which we now have of a Real Presence But in case such a change was made not by way of negation but of Addition passing from an obscure confused kind of knowledge to a distinct positive Belief of the Real Presence proposed for the lucidation or clearing this great Mysterie in such manner as Monsieur Claude is pleased subtily enough to imagin yet the obligation of believing it would still subsist and stand in force Because the same Church of which the Parties who were first in Dispute about this matter were lawful subjects having heard and examined their Reasons did judge according to Rule that it was of Faith It is not therefore now lawful to follow those who revolted against their Mother Church for the same cause that Monsieur Claude will without question freely grant that it was not lawful in Conscience to side and take part with the Monothelites who would by no means receive the Decree and decision of the Church they lived in touching two wills and operations in Christ On the contrary I am sure he does reteive and reverence that Doctrine as an apputtenance of faith although here was also a change in the same manner by way of Addition in the belief of the Church and that this distinction of wills and operations was not before clearly and distinctly known Some body perchance may here tell me that for this very reason the Protestants of