pervert_v this_o place_n yet_o that_o be_v no_o prejudice_n to_o our_o and_o other_o right_a use_n of_o it_o as_o i_o show_v before_o 35.36_o before_o pag._n 35.36_o touch_v the_o like_a exception_n about_o deut._n 17._o how_o can_v i_o be_v say_v to_o misapply_v this_o place_n as_o the_o papist_n have_v do_v see_v i_o do_v not_o apply_v it_o in_o such_o sort_n as_o they_o have_v do_v either_o to_o derogate_v from_o the_o certainty_n of_o the_o doctrine_n preach_v by_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n which_o their_o opinion_n note_v in_o those_o very_a word_n of_o the_o rhemist_n which_o he_o cite_v i_o have_v 70_o have_v pag._n 70_o before_o reject_v or_o to_o prove_v that_o counsel_n have_v absolute_a authority_n and_o that_o their_o decree_n be_v infallible_a which_o error_n of_o they_o i_o have_v in_o like_a manner_n disclaim_v both_o in_o my_o 89._o my_o ans_fw-fr to_o w._n b._n p._n 89._o former_a writing_n and_o at_o the_o very_a 65._o very_a pag._n 29._o &_o p._n 6_o 67._o see_v 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declare_v by_o mr_n cartwr_n himself_o when_o expound_v those_o word_n of_o paul_n 1._o tim._n 6.13_o he_o say_v 177._o say_v t._n c._n 1_o rep._n p._n 177._o it_o be_v to_o be_v note_v that_o he_o say_v i_o denounce_v or_o i_o charge_v he_o do_v not_o say_v i_o exhort_v or_o give_v counsel_n leave_v it_o to_o the_o liberty_n of_o timothy_n and_o thus_o here_o we_o be_v in_o like_a manner_n to_o understand_v he_o when_o he_o tell_v how_o a_o classis_fw-la of_o minister_n and_o elder_n be_v sharp_o and_o severe_o to_o charge_v a_o church_n that_o they_o use_v a_o authority_n more_o than_o of_o exhort_v or_o admonish_v and_o counsel_v so_o that_o the_o matter_n be_v not_o leave_v in_o the_o liberty_n of_o they_o that_o be_v so_o charge_v ii_o he_o proceed_v further_a and_o after_o both_o admonition_n and_o a_o severe_a charge_n or_o prohibition_n he_o show_v that_o the_o classis_fw-la have_v yet_o more_o to_o do_v in_o this_o business_n if_o their_o charge_n be_v not_o regard_v in_o 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2._o p._n 244._o that_o the_o cause_n be_v to_o be_v refer_v unto_o the_o judge_n who_o it_o concern_v and_o who_o be_v after_o mention_v that_o they_o may_v either_o ratify_v the_o election_n or_o make_v it_o frustrate_v now_o in_o the_o ecclesiastical_a polity_n these_o judge_n be_v no_o other_o than_o class_n or_o synod_n whereof_o he_o afterward_o speak_v and_o this_o their_o abrogate_a and_o make_v void_a a_o unlawful_a election_n be_v a_o power_n more_o than_o simple_a admonition_n iii_o whereas_o mr_n cartwr_n here_o say_v that_o if_o either_o the_o church_n round_o about_o do_v fail_v of_o this_o duty_n or_o the_o church_n which_o be_v admonish_v rest_v not_o therein_o then_o to_o bring_v it_o to_o the_o next_o synod_n etc._n etc._n hereupon_o 173._o hereupon_o def._n of_o answ_n to_o admon_n p._n
in_o confound_a law_n and_o order_n by_o translate_n the_o word_n leges_fw-la order_n when_o he_o shall_v have_v translate_v it_o law_n according_a to_o the_o right_n and_o proper_a signification_n thereof_o if_o he_o have_v dislike_v mr_n f._n for_o use_v the_o word_n leges_fw-la or_o law_n and_o will_v correct_v it_o by_o put_v in_o the_o word_n order_n this_o be_v more_o than_o a_o exact_a and_o faithful_a translator_n may_v do_v he_o shall_v rather_o have_v translate_v the_o word_n true_o according_a to_o the_o right_a signification_n and_o then_o have_v give_v warning_n to_o the_o reader_n touch_v the_o fault_n of_o mr_n fenner_n in_o the_o ill_a confound_v of_o law_n and_o order_n and_o put_v one_o for_o the_o other_o after_o these_o unfaithful_a omission_n and_o mistranslation_n mr_n dau._n have_v not_o be_v afraid_a to_o say_v confident_o of_o himself_o thus_o have_v i_o faithful_o translate_v the_o word_n of_o this_o eminent_a light_n in_o his_o time_n mr_n dudley_n fenner_n who_o be_v join_v with_o mr_n cartwright_n etc._n etc._n to_o his_o commendation_n of_o he_o i_o do_v willing_o assent_v he_o be_v indeed_o a_o eminent_a light_n and_o why_o then_o have_v mr_n dau._n go_v about_o to_o obscure_v his_o light_n by_o deprave_v his_o testimony_n and_o labour_v to_o put_v this_o bright-burning_a candle_n under_o a_o bushel_n that_o man_n shall_v not_o see_v his_o light_n whether_o he_o make_v strong_o for_o he_o or_o against_o i_o let_v other_o judge_n iii_o moreover_o after_o these_o omission_n and_o mistranslation_n come_v we_o to_o consider_v his_o miscollection_n from_o he_o which_o without_o any_o just_a deduction_n or_o inference_n upon_o the_o lame_a and_o imperfect_a recital_n of_o his_o word_n he_o thus_o propound_v ibiden_v propound_v ibiden_v the_o reader_n may_v see_v how_o he_o leave_v the_o whole_a power_n of_o jurisdiction_n in_o the_o particular_a church_n etc._n etc._n how_o untrue_a this_o be_v it_o may_v appear_v i._o by_o mr_n f._n his_o allege_v those_o 276._o those_o s._n theo._n l._n 7._o p._n 276._o scripture_n deut._n 17.9_o with_o 2._o chron._n 19.8_o 11._o matt._n 18.18_o 1._o tim._n 4.14_o to_o show_v what_o authority_n there_o be_v in_o a_o classis_fw-la or_o synod_n comprehend_v by_o he_o under_o that_o general_a definition_n of_o a_o presbytery_n as_o well_o as_o the_o eldership_n of_o a_o particular_a church_n thereby_o he_o confess_v that_o there_o be_v a_o power_n of_o judgement_n censure_n and_o jurisdiction_n in_o synod_n because_o those_o testimony_n of_o scripture_n speak_v of_o such_o jurisdiction_n and_o judgement_n of_o bind_v and_o lose_v of_o imposition_n of_o hand_n or_o ordination_n etc._n etc._n ii_o though_o mr_n f._n speak_v of_o excommunication_n and_o absolution_n from_o it_o say_v that_o they_o be_v to_o be_v do_v in_o the_o assembly_n by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n which_o last_o word_n mr_n d._n for_o special_a observation_n cause_v to_o be_v print_v in_o great_a 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and_o particular_a eldership_n their_o counsel_n be_v tell_v unto_o the_o church_n that_o thing_n ordinary_o be_v thus_o perform_v in_o these_o reform_a church_n viz._n after_o that_o in_o the_o classical_a assembly_n of_o minister_n and_o elder_n it_o have_v be_v find_v just_a and_o requisite_a that_o any_o person_n shall_v be_v excommunicate_v or_o any_o minister_n call_v these_o censure_n and_o election_n be_v then_o first_o solemn_o propound_v unto_o the_o particular_a church_n who_o these_o thing_n special_o concern_v and_o so_o accomplish_v with_o their_o consent_n and_o not_o otherwise_o if_o the_o great_a part_n of_o the_o church_n dissent_n and_o allow_v not_o the_o excommunication_n or_o election_n then_o for_o the_o avoid_n of_o strife_n the_o matter_n be_v again_o refer_v ad_fw-la majorem_fw-la senatum_fw-la unto_o a_o great_a ecclesiastical_a senate_n classis_fw-la or_o synod_n to_o judge_v thereof_o and_o to_o compose_v the_o dissension_n v._o mr_n f._n in_o the_o same_o chapter_n 279._o chapter_n pag._n 278_o 279._o show_v from_o the_o scripture_n that_o in_o these_o presbyterial_a assembly_n there_o ought_v to_o be_v a_o mutual_a office_n perform_v in_o the_o same_o in_o special_a manner_n towards_o one_o another_o not_o only_o for_o counsel_n but_o also_o for_o the_o censure_n of_o such_o as_o be_v member_n of_o those_o assembly_n and_o this_o be_v also_o agreeable_a to_o the_o order_n prescribe_v both_o in_o the_o 43._o the_o kercken-ordeninge_a art_n 43._o nationall_n synod_n at_o dort_n and_o in_o divers_a other_o for_o the_o censure_n of_o such_o fault_n as_o be_v commit_v in_o those_o meeting_n or_o by_o contempt_n of_o the_o admonition_n of_o inferior_a assembly_n hereby_o also_o it_o appear_v that_o he_o allow_v a_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n in_o synod_n and_o class_n and_o do_v not_o limit_v all_o jurisdiction_n unto_o a_o particular_a church_n vi_o after_o mr_n f._n have_v speak_v in_o general_a both_o of_o the_o presbytery_n of_o 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the_o church_n be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d elect_v by_o saffrage_n now_o this_o election_n be_v a_o act_n of_o authority_n exercise_v by_o sundry_a church_n in_o one_o business_n touch_v one_o person_n and_o hence_o it_o appear_v that_o a_o combination_n of_o church_n may_v exercise_v jurisdiction_n together_o touch_v such_o as_o be_v no_o peculiar_a member_n of_o one_o particular_a church_n and_o if_o such_o election_n may_v be_v make_v by_o many_o church_n then_o may_v censure_n be_v decree_v by_o many_o church_n together_o as_o occasion_n require_v last_o mr_n f._n have_v speak_v of_o the_o first_o part_n of_o ecclesiastical_a polity_n touch_v such_o as_o administer_v the_o same_o both_o by_o a_o simple_a and_o compound_a office_n in_o the_o presbytery_n both_o of_o one_o or_o more_o church_n in_o synod_n or_o general_n council_n he_o come_v at_o last_o to_o speak_v of_o the_o duty_n of_o the_o saint_n other_o member_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v not_o promote_v unto_o any_o ecclesiastical_a office_n and_o 282._o and_o
some_o redress_n 7.4_o redress_n esth_n 7.4_o i_o crave_v leave_v therefore_o to_o suggest_v a_o few_o of_o the_o woeful_a fruit_n â€_o &_o sad_a consequent_n of_o prelatical_a proceed_n prelacy_n proceed_n sad_a consequent_n of_o prelacy_n for_o even_o hence_o it_o be_v come_v to_o pass_v that_o i._o some_o well_o affect_a parent_n have_v be_v discourage_v from_o train_v up_o their_o hopeful_a son_n in_o such_o learning_n as_o shall_v fit_v to_o the_o ministry_n ii_o some_o conscientious_a young_a man_n have_v attain_v to_o a_o good_a degree_n of_o learning_n have_v divert_v &_o apply_v their_o study_n otherways_o iii_o some_o in_o the_o ministry_n concern_v the_o faith_n have_v make_v shipwreck_n or_o schism_v dangerous_o entertain_v unsound_a &_o unwarrantable_a opinion_n &_o course_n turn_v to_o be_v anabaptist_n separatist_n semi-separatist_n etc._n etc._n and_o other_o become_v licentious_a or_o mere_o formal_a and_o careless_a in_o the_o execution_n of_o their_o call_n iv_o some_o of_o the_o 2.2_o the_o 2._o pet._n 2.2_o people_n have_v follow_v their_o pernicious_a &_o deceivable_a way_n of_o anabaptism_n separation_n independency_n popularity_n &_o profaneness_n by_o reason_n of_o who_o the_o way_n of_o truth_n be_v evil_a speak_v of_o 4.9_o of_o hos_fw-la 4.9_o like_a priest_n like_o people_n v._o but_o behold_v great_a scandal_n they_o these_o for_o hence_o 8.3_o hence_o ezek._n 8.3_o the_o image_n of_o jealousy_n which_o provoke_v to_o jealousy_n even_o 2.7_o even_o 2._o thes_n 2.7_o the_o mystery_n of_o iniquity_n have_v be_v more_o bold_a to_o lift_v up_o the_o head_n &_o 16._o &_o ezek._n 8.12_o 16._o chamber_n of_o imagery_n have_v be_v raise_v at_o the_o upper_a end_n of_o chancel_v &_o altar_n place_v thereon_o and_o worship_v direct_v towards_o the_o east_n vi_o hence_o ceremony_n hence_o in_o the_o year_n 16_o 17._o d._n morton_n b._n of_o chester_n frame_v the_o direction_n for_o the_o first_o liberty_n grant_v to_o sport_n on_o the_o lord_n day_n at_o the_o same_o time_n he_o so_o eager_o prosecute_v the_o nonconformist_n about_o ceremony_n a_o wide_a gap_n have_v be_v open_v to_o libertinism_n in_o the_o audacious_a profanation_n of_o the_o lord_n day_n gross_a contempt_n of_o the_o faithful_a ministry_n scorn_v at_o the_o performance_n of_o family_n duty_n bolster_n of_o ignorance_n the_o stepdame_n of_o devotion_n countenance_v of_o wake_n rushbearings_a mixt-dancing_n maypole_n beare-beating_n stageplay_n revel_v healthing_n &_o all_o manner_n of_o the_o like_a disorder_a course_n with_o a_o censure_v all_o strictness_n in_o religion_n &_o circumspect_a walk_n to_o be_v foolish_a preciseness_n &_o puritanisme_n vii_o hence_o have_v follow_v those_o irregular_a confusion_n in_o the_o popular_a and_o independent_a government_n of_o the_o brownistical_o affect_v break_v in_o piece_n again_o and_o again_o to_o their_o great_a reproach_n &_o yet_o discover_v thereby_o that_o their_o 5.38_o their_o act._n 5.38_o new_a way_n be_v not_o of_o god_n since_o it_o do_v daily_o come_v to_o nought_o by_o their_o own_o disunit_a and_o unchurch_v of_o themselves_o viij_o 5.15_o viij_o judg._n 5.15_o hence_o have_v rise_v those_o great_a thought_n of_o heart_n among_o brethren_n occasion_v bitter_a contention_n fruitless_a jangle_n censorious_a word_n tart_a &_o gall_a writing_n alienation_n of_o affection_n strangeness_n of_o countenance_n breach_n of_o christian_a fellowship_n interruption_n of_o prayer_n &_o neglect_v of_o necessary_a mutual_a office_n ix_o yea_o &_o hence_o doubtless_o have_v issue_v as_o from_o the_o proper_a original_n that_o unworthy_a remonstrance_n against_o presbytery_n represent_v to_o the_o house_n of_o peer_n from_o divers_a nobleman_n and_o gentleman_n of_o cheshire_n as_o appear_v by_o a_o print_a book_n under_o the_o name_n of_o sir_n thomas_n aston_n baronet_n 1641._o the_o grievous_a scandal_n &_o offence_n whereof_o may_n in_o some_o part_n be_v evince_v by_o these_o short_a animadversion_n follow_v remonstrance_n animadversion_n on_o the_o cheshire_n remonstrance_n i._o the_o title_n of_o it_o a_o remonstrance_n against_o presbytery_n animadvers_fw-la of_o the_o title_n the_o same_o may_v be_v say_v which_o be_v observe_v vorstius_n declaration_n against_o vorstius_n by_o the_o great_a &_o wise_a king_n james_n of_o famous_a memory_n touch_v the_o title_n of_o bertius_n his_o book_n de_fw-la apostasia_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la viz._n the_o title_n only_o be_v enough_o to_o make_v it_o worthy_a the_o fire_n because_o i._o the_o holy_a scripture_n approve_v of_o presbytery_n as_o a_o divine_a ordinance_n both_o for_o the_o 4.14_o the_o 1._o tim._n 4.14_o imposition_n of_o hand_n &_o also_o for_o 5.17_o for_o 1._o tim._n 5.17_o the_o exercise_n of_o rule_n &_o government_n ii_o presbytery_n be_v establish_v in_o the_o neighbour_n reform_a church_n which_o be_v precious_a in_o the_o eye_n of_o the_o lord_n &_o of_o all_o well-affected_a to_o the_o reform_a religion_n in_o england_n iii_o prelatical_a man_n be_v not_o wont_a in_o their_o writing_n to_o contradict_v it_o simple_o how_o come_v it_o then_o to_o pass_v that_o some_o in_o cheshire_n 12.8_o cheshire_n numb_a 12.8_o be_v not_o afraid_a to_o speak_v against_o presbytery_n ii_o the_o pretend_a occasion_n of_o the_o remonstrance_n against_o presbytery_n allege_v by_o the_o contriver_n &_o subscriber_n be_v a_o petition_n &_o position_n preach_v at_o chester_n &_o knutesford_n annex_v to_o the_o remonstrance_n animadv_n the_o occasion_n of_o the_o suggest_a pretence_n be_v but_o a_o mere_a pretence_n have_v no_o just_a ground_n at_o all_o for_o i._n neither_o the_o petition_n nor_o position_n annex_v to_o the_o remonstrance_n do_v seek_v for_o government_n for_o presbyterian_a discipline_n mention_v in_o the_o position_n in_o great_a character_n seem_v to_o be_v the_o word_n of_o remonst_z not_o of_o the_o preacher_n disaffect_v to_o presbyterian_a government_n presbytery_n but_o seem_v rather_o to_o affect_v a_o popular_a government_n ii_o the_o patron_n of_o popular_a government_n contend_v for_o in_o the_o position_n be_v for_o the_o most_o part_n either_o separatist_n or_o semi-separatist_n who_o be_v as_o opposite_a to_o presbyterial_a government_n as_o they_o be_v to_o prelacy_n as_o be_v well_o know_v to_o they_o that_o know_v they_o and_o therefore_o it_o behoove_v cheshire_n man_n to_o 7.24_o to_o john_n 7.24_o give_v righteous_a judgement_n when_o they_o take_v upon_o they_o to_o censure_v &_o in-no-wise_a confound_v &_o jumble_v together_o opinion_n &_o defender_n of_o they_o so_o direct_o opposite_a for_o 5.10_o for_o 2._o cor._n 5.10_o we_o must_v all_o appear_v at_o the_o tribunal_n of_o the_o 18.25_o the_o gen._n 18.25_o righteous_a judge_n of_o all_o the_o world_n who_o will_v do_v right_a iii_o remonstr_n take_v for_o grant_v that_o conclude_v that_o provincial_n &_o diocesan_n b_o b._n be_v to_o be_v understand_v by_o the_o remonstr_n otherwise_o nothing_o be_v conclude_v provincial_n &_o diocesan_n bishop_n be_v of_o apostolical_a institution_n 3.1_o institution_n philip._n 1.1_o 1._o tim._n 3.1_o allege_v in_o the_o margin_n two_o text_n of_o scripture_n for_o his_o proof_n animadv_n neither_o of_o the_o text_n allege_v do_v infer_v a_o apostolical_a institution_n of_o provincial_n &_o diocesan_n bishop_n for_o i._o the_o original_a word_n translate_v 〈◊〉_d translate_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d bishop_n or_o overseer_n &_o 〈◊〉_d &_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d presbyter_n or_o elder_n be_v equivalent_a name_n of_o the_o same_o office_n &_o be_v so_o use_v in_o the_o 2._o the_o act._n 20.17_o 28._o 1._o pet._n 5.1_o 2._o scripture_n ii_o the_o pleader_n for_o hierarchy_n do_v grant_v that_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n in_o scripture_n phrase_n be_v the_o same_o iii_o the_o text_n in_o the_o epist_n to_o phil._n 1.1_o mention_v bishop_n in_o the_o plural_a number_n that_o be_v such_o officer_n as_o do_v oversee_v the_o church_n at_o philippi_n &_o not_o a_o bishop_n alone_o superior_a to_o other_o officer_n in_o degree_n or_o government_n according_a to_o the_o opinion_n of_o hierarchicall_a man_n 9_o man_n 3._o john_n 9_o affect_v preeminence_n iv_o the_o text_n in_o 1._o tim._n 3.1_o mention_v also_o office_n as_o well_o as_o bishop_n which_o office_n be_v describe_v in_o the_o 7._o the_o 1._o tim._n 3.2_o 3_o 4_o 5_o 6_o 7._o subsequent_a verse_n to_o be_v the_o office_n of_o the_o presbyter_n and_o this_o may_v appear_v further_o by_o compare_v therewith_o the_o 7._o the_o tit._n 1.5_o 6_o 7._o epist_n to_z titus_n v._o it_o be_v good_a to_o be_v wise_a according_a to_o sobriety_n in_o understand_v some_o thing_n in_o 3.16_o in_o 2._o pet._n 3.16_o paul_n epistle_n &_o other_o scripture_n lest_o for_o want_v of_o learning_n &_o stability_n they_o be_v wrest_v to_o destruction_n this_o be_v a_o useful_a item_n for_o cheshire_n man_n &_o other_o also_o iv_o remonstr_n commend_v bishop_n that_o they_o be_v the_o great_a light_n of_o the_o church_n and_o martyr_n in_o primitive_a time_n animadv_n
sabbath_n bestow_v it_o whole_o in_o divine_a and_o religious_a exercise_n resort_v 73._o resort_v ib._n cap._n 3._o p._n 54._o &_o 72_o 73._o four_o time_n a_o day_n to_o the_o public_a assembly_n of_o god_n worship_n even_o in_o the_o winter_n time_n and_o in_o summer_n five_o time_n a_o day_n etc._n etc._n the_o bond_n of_o that_o perfection_n which_o they_o seek_v for_o and_o have_v in_o some_o measure_n attain_v unto_o seem_v to_o be_v their_o combination_n in_o synod_n and_o that_o unity_n therein_o whereupon_o they_o be_v denominate_v their_o government_n and_o the_o fruit_n thereof_o have_v be_v such_o that_o many_o of_o the_o special_a light_n of_o christendom_n since_o the_o time_n of_o reformation_n have_v admit_v and_o commend_v the_o same_o and_o sundry_a of_o they_o have_v wish_v for_o the_o like_a discipline_n and_o order_n in_o the_o church_n where_o they_o live_v as_o appear_v by_o the_o testimony_n of_o luther_n melancthon_n bucer_n pet._n paulus_n vergerius_n beza_n zanchius_n olevian_n vrsinus_n chytraeus_n pet._n martyr_n calvin_n polanus_fw-la bucholcerus_n which_o testimony_n be_v 106-122_a be_v p._n 106-122_a affix_v unto_o the_o end_n of_o that_o book_n of_o their_o discipline_n yea_o the_o print_n of_o this_o book_n of_o their_o discipline_n according_a to_o their_o common_a order_n in_o such_o case_n be_v not_o do_v without_o the_o 16._o the_o pref._n p._n 8._o &_o 16._o authority_n of_o a_o synod_n &_o namely_o of_o that_o which_o be_v celebrate_v at_o lessna_n in_o poland_n anno_fw-la 1632._o they_o being_n by_o the_o present_a trouble_n disperse_v abroad_o into_o those_o part_n unto_o that_o which_o he_o have_v allege_v out_o of_o the_o bohemian_a confession_n mr_n can_v say_v the_o church_n under_o the_o palsgrave_n likewise_o consent_v and_o to_o this_o end_n he_o cit_v their_o public_a catechism_n in_o the_o end_n of_o part_n 2._o for_o answer_v hereunto_o 1._o if_o these_o church_n consent_n unto_o that_o which_o the_o bohemian_a church_n have_v profess_v than_o they_o do_v not_o agree_v with_o mr_n can._n as_o appear_v by_o what_o have_v be_v say_v in_o the_o forego_n answer_n 11._o the_o place_n here_o allege_v have_v nothing_o touch_v the_o person_n to_o who_o the_o key_n be_v give_v which_o be_v the_o thing_n for_o which_o it_o be_v produce_v it_o speak_v only_o of_o the_o use_n of_o the_o key_n and_o the_o ordinary_a exercise_n of_o discipline_n in_o the_o church_n without_o restrain_v the_o same_o unto_o the_o sole_a jurisdiction_n of_o a_o particular_a congregation_n or_o exclude_v the_o authority_n of_o class_n and_o synod_n either_o for_o advise_v &_o consent_v before_o hand_n or_o for_o the_o correct_v of_o abuse_n commit_v in_o the_o administration_n of_o it_o and_o that_o the_o power_n of_o a_o superior_a ecclesiastical_a judicatorie_a exercise_v in_o such_o case_n be_v agreeable_a unto_o the_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n in_o the_o palatinate_n may_v appear_v from_o the_o 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87._o edit_n 1617._o in_o mat._n 18._o our_o saviour_n call_v they_o by_o the_o name_n of_o the_o church_n because_o they_o rule_v and_o govern_v church_n matter_n under_o the_o name_n and_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n so_o likewise_o the_o name_n of_o all_o the_o assembly_n by_o moses_n be_v give_v to_o the_o elder_n of_o the_o jew_n that_o be_v to_o say_v unto_o certain_a choose_a &_o pick_v out_o man_n who_o be_v assign_v by_o all_o the_o congregation_n to_o the_o government_n of_o the_o affair_n thus_o plain_o it_o be_v take_v in_o numb_a 8._o where_o the_o lord_n appoint_v the_o congregation_n shall_v lay_v hand_n upon_o the_o levite_n but_o i_o think_v no_o man_n will_v say_v this_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v of_o all_o the_o congregation_n that_o so_o many_o thousand_o shall_v lay_v their_o hand_n upon_o they_o as_o be_v rehearse_v then_o to_o have_v be_v in_o the_o host_n of_o israel_n but_o the_o elder_n and_o prince_n only_o as_o aben_n ezra_n do_v right_o interpret_v it_o which_o be_v to_o be_v note_v the_o rather_o because_o some_o will_v have_v the_o word_n of_o our_o saviour_n to_o be_v expound_v of_o all_o the_o church_n whereas_o according_a to_o the_o manner_n of_o speak_v which_o the_o hebrew_n use_n the_o consistory_n or_o council_n of_o the_o church_n be_v call_v the_o church_n where_o also_o it_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v that_o together_o with_o the_o name_n the_o thing_n itself_o be_v translate_v from_o the_o jew_n unto_o we_o that_o look_n what_o a_o council_n the_o jew_n use_v for_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n we_o ought_v to_o understand_v by_o this_o name_n that_o such_o a_o one_o be_v appoint_v by_o our_o saviour_n to_o be_v use_v in_o the_o church_n therefore_o in_o the_o same_o place_n he_o attribute_v to_o this_o council_n the_o chief_a government_n of_o all_o church_n matter_n that_o all_o such_o thing_n as_o can_v otherwise_o be_v agree_v and_o end_v be_v at_o the_o last_o bring_v unto_o they_o and_o end_v by_o their_o authority_n &_o judgement_n as_o for_o the_o second_o the_o censure_n of_o the_o church_n have_v speak_v before_o of_o suspension_n and_o proceed_v to_o speak_v of_o excommunication_n he_o say_v 92._o say_v ibid._n p._n 92._o this_o part_n of_o ecclesiastical_a censure_n as_o also_o the_o first_o be_v translate_v unto_o we_o from_o the_o jew_n for_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n in_o all_o this_o matter_n of_o discipline_n have_v receive_v all_o her_o law_n &_o decree_n from_o the_o jew_n for_o as_o it_o have_v be_v show_v before_o it_o be_v plain_a &_o manifest_a that_o our_o saviour_n in_o mat._n 18.17_o allude_v to_o the_o manner_n of_o the_o jew_n because_o that_o otherwise_o his_o speech_n shall_v have_v be_v very_o obscure_a and_o such_o as_o no_o man_n have_v be_v able_a to_o understand_v but_o this_o appear_v most_o manifest_o by_o the_o excommunication_n of_o the_o blind_a man_n in_o the_o 9_o of_o john_n etc._n etc._n and_o further_o that_o which_o he_o say_v concern_v the_o government_n of_o a_o particular_a church_n he_o extend_v also_o unto_o the_o 98._o the_o ibid._n p._n 98._o synod_n for_o the_o govern_n of_o more_o church_n of_o which_o there_o shall_v be_v more_o occasion_n to_o speak_v again_o hereafter_o mr_n fenner_n in_o his_o counterpoison_v touch_v the_o certain_a form_n of_o ecclesiastical_a government_n declare_v himself_o to_o be_v of_o the_o same_o mind_n viz._n that_o the_o rule_n of_o christ_n mat._n 18._o be_v no_o new_a rule_n when_o as_o he_o write_v 479._o write_v part_v of_o a_o register_n p._n 479._o our_o saviour_n christ_n in_o set_v down_o the_o ecclesiastical_a presbytery_n speak_v according_a to_o the_o jew_n for_o otherwise_o the_o apostle_n can_v not_o have_v understand_v he_o when_o he_o say_v tell_v the_o congregation_n or_o
no_o new_a rule_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n when_o the_o like_a order_n be_v establish_v for_o go_v first_o unto_o the_o eldership_n and_o seek_v redress_n of_o evil_a by_o they_o mr_n ainsw_n acknowledge_v that_o 451._o that_o ibid._n p._n 451._o the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n be_v in_o more_o special_a manner_n give_v unto_o they_o and_o therefore_o in_o special_a manner_n ought_v they_o to_o be_v tell_v and_o speak_v unto_o for_o the_o reformation_n of_o evil_n see_v they_o be_v to_o guide_v and_o go_v before_o the_o people_n as_o in_o other_o affair_n so_o in_o administer_a the_o censure_n of_o the_o church_n therefore_o ordinary_o matter_n be_v to_o be_v bring_v unto_o they_o before_o they_o be_v bring_v unto_o the_o whole_a congregation_n 11._o as_o it_o be_v the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n 1._o cor._n 5._o &_o according_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n in_o these_o country_n that_o the_o more_o weighty_a affair_n &_o censure_n of_o the_o church_n shall_v not_o be_v administer_v without_o knowledge_n and_o consent_n of_o the_o body_n of_o the_o church_n so_o that_o none_o be_v either_o receive_v for_o a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n or_o cast_v out_o by_o excommunication_n but_o they_o do_v first_o tell_v the_o church_n even_o the_o whole_a congregation_n be_v solemn_o &_o public_o acquaint_v therewith_o &_o liberty_n grant_v unto_o they_o to_o show_v their_o assent_n or_o dissent_v therein_o so_o mr_n ainsw_n himself_o acknowledge_v that_o there_o be_v a_o like_a order_n in_o the_o old_a testament_n the_o scripture_n which_o he_o allege_v and_o his_o manner_n of_o argue_v from_o they_o do_v import_v so_o much_o of_o israel_n he_o say_v 8._o say_v commun_n of_o s._n c._n 18._o §_o 8._o unto_o all_o &_o every_o of_o the_o israelite_n be_v commend_v the_o care_n &_o observation_n of_o all_o god_n statute_n that_o neither_o all_o nor_o any_o of_o they_o man_n nor_o woman_n nor_o family_n nor_o tribe_n shall_v forsake_v the_o lord_n nor_o suffer_v among_o they_o any_o root_n to_o bring_v forth_o gall_n and_o wormwood_n etc._n etc._n deut._n 29.18_o so_o of_o the_o multitude_n of_o believer_n and_o people_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n he_o write_v in_o like_a manner_n that_o 9_o that_o ibid._n §_o 9_o they_o be_v will_v to_o exhort_v and_o admonish_v each_o other_o even_o the_o officer_n of_o the_o church_n etc._n etc._n and_o to_o look_v that_o no_o root_n of_o bitterness_n spring_v up_o and_o trouble_v they_o etc._n etc._n heb._n 12.15_o etc._n etc._n again_o he_o say_v 8._o say_v ibid._n c._n 18._o §_o 8._o even_o the_o leprous_a &_o unclean_a though_o the_o trial_n of_o they_o apperteyn_v to_o the_o priest_n leu._n 13._o yet_o all_o the_o child_n of_o israel_n be_v to_o look_v that_o such_o be_v remove_v out_o of_o the_o host_n yea_o the_o care_n of_o the_o priest_n purity_n in_o their_o administration_n apperteyn_v to_o all_o the_o people_n levit._fw-la 21.1_o 8_o 24._o and_o long_o after_o both_o in_o counsel_n &_o in_o the_o redress_v of_o public_a evil_n and_o trespass_n all_o israel_n indifferent_o have_v their_o hand_n and_o presence_n as_o the_o scripture_n show_v 2._o chron._n 30.21_o 23._o ezra_n 10.1_o 9_o 12_o etc._n etc._n then_o present_o he_o parallel_v the_o course_n of_o the_o church_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n with_o this_o suppose_a practice_n in_o the_o old_a save_v the_o church_n in_o the_o apostle_n day_n have_v also_o the_o like_a right_n and_o liberty_n for_o the_o multitude_n of_o believer_n be_v both_o beholder_n and_o actor_n in_o the_o common_a affair_n etc._n etc._n afterward_o again_o speak_v of_o the_o rule_n of_o admonition_n &_o of_o the_o censure_n of_o the_o church_n he_o say_v 449._o say_v ibid._n c._n 22._o §_o 12_o p._n 449._o the_o keep_n of_o which_o rule_n belong_v to_o all_o the_o saint_n as_o the_o commandment_n direct_v of_o old_a to_o the_o child_n of_o israel_n num._n 5.2_o levit._fw-la 19.17_o and_o in_o the_o new_a testament_n to_o all_o the_o brethren_n &_o church_n do_v show_v matt._n 18.15_o 1._o cor._n 5._o and_o thus_o by_o his_o own_o confession_n yea_o even_o according_a to_o his_o own_o opinion_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o church_n power_n and_o the_o people_n right_a there_o be_v no_o new_a rule_n give_v by_o christ_n in_o mat._n 18._o whereas_o it_o be_v object_v that_o the_o jewish_a synedrion_fw-mi 76._o synedrion_fw-mi h._n barr._n resut_o of_o giff._n p._n 76._o by_o the_o institution_n of_o god_n be_v mere_o civil_a etc._n etc._n that_o 21._o that_o d._n bilson_n perpet_n gov_fw-mi ch_n 4._o p._n 21._o moses_n appoint_v neither_o judge_n nor_o elder_n in_o city_n or_o synedrion_n but_o they_o be_v magistrate_n to_o execute_v the_o judgement_n of_o the_o law_n &_o have_v the_o sword_n to_o chastise_v the_o body_n and_o punish_v with_o death_n etc._n etc._n the_o error_n of_o this_o assertion_n have_v be_v show_v 35.41_o show_v pag._n 34_o 35.41_o before_o from_o the_o scripture_n deut._n 17._o &_o 2._o chron._n 19_o from_o these_o place_n be_v the_o distinction_n of_o civil_a and_o ecclesiastical_a judgement_n maintain_v by_o many_o learned_a writer_n as_o 204._o as_o conf._n with_o hart_n c._n 6._o div_o 2._o p._n 203_o 204._o d._n rainolds_n 152.153_o rainolds_n first_o reply_n to_o d._n whitg_n p._n 192._o second_o reply_n latter_a part_n p._n 152.153_o mr_n cartwright_n 490.491_o cartwright_n counterp_v in_o part_n of_o regist_n p._n 490.491_o mr_n fenner_n and_o the_o 522._o the_o ibid._n p._n 522._o defender_n of_o he_o and_o most_o large_o by_o etc._n by_o diss_n de_fw-fr gub._n eccl._n p._n 59_o etc._n etc._n g._n bucerus_n as_o for_o h._n barrow_n he_o sufficient_o resute_v himself_o when_o he_o acknowledge_v that_o the_o priest_n do_v bear_v the_o charge_n and_o have_v the_o decide_n of_o all_o ecclesiastical_a cause_n numb_a 18._o deut._n 17._o this_o they_o can_v not_o do_v without_o judge_v of_o they_o &_o therefore_o it_o appear_v hence_o that_o they_o have_v a_o double_a synedrion_fw-mi one_o ecclesiastical_a the_o other_o civil_a chap._n vi_o the_o three_o argument_n take_v from_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n in_o the_o apostle_n time_n our_o three_o argument_n be_v take_v from_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o primitive_a christian_a church_n after_o the_o ascension_n of_o christ_n from_o which_o we_o reason_n on_o this_o manner_n that_o government_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v commend_v unto_o we_o &_o approve_v by_o the_o example_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o apostolic_a church_n be_v worthy_o to_o be_v embrace_v of_o we_o but_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n by_o synod_n which_o beside_o their_o counsel_n and_o admonition_n do_v also_o with_o authority_n judge_n and_o determine_v the_o weighty_a cause_n and_o affair_n of_o particular_a church_n be_v commend_v unto_o we_o as_o be_v above_o say_v therefore_o etc._n etc._n the_o assumption_n of_o this_o argument_n be_v prove_v i._o by_o that_o holy_a assembly_n or_o synod_n which_o be_v record_v act._n 1_n 15-26_a wherein_o there_o be_v not_o only_o counsel_v give_v but_o also_o a_o exercise_n of_o ecclesiastical_a power_n &_o authority_n and_o that_o in_o such_o a_o business_n as_o be_v of_o great_a and_o rare_a importance_n in_o the_o choice_n of_o a_o new_a apostle_n this_o assembly_n be_v not_o a_o ordinary_a congregation_n or_o particular_a church_n but_o it_o be_v a_o synodical_a assembly_n and_o perform_v such_o a_o work_n as_o do_v not_o belong_v unto_o any_o one_o particular_a church_n this_o appear_v divers_a way_n i._o in_o respect_n of_o the_o person_n of_o who_o this_o assembly_n do_v consist_v and_o these_o again_o of_o two_o sort_n first_o of_o apostle_n who_o be_v such_o person_n as_o be_v not_o tie_v unto_o any_o particular_a church_n but_o have_v a_o universal_a charge_n matt._n 28.19_o rom._n 10.15_o 18._o this_o commission_n be_v unto_o they_o as_o much_o as_o if_o they_o have_v have_v a_o special_a delegation_n from_o many_o or_o all_o church_n so_o that_o their_o presence_n and_o concurrence_n be_v sufficient_a to_o make_v this_o assembly_n in_o some_o measure_n as_o a_o general_a or_o universal_a synod_n these_o eleven_o apostle_n have_v also_o a_o peculiar_a charge_n to_o be_v at_o this_o time_n at_o jerusalem_n the_o place_n of_o this_o assembly_n and_o to_o tarry_v there_o for_o a_o while_n luk._n 24.49_o act._n 1.4_o be_v by_o divine_a direction_n bring_v unto_o this_o synod_n second_o for_o other_o person_n the_o disciple_n that_o be_v present_a at_o this_o assembly_n it_o appear_v they_o be_v from_o divers_a place_n some_o of_o they_o from_o galilee_n as_o the_o brethren_n of_o christ_n there_o mention_v act._n 1.14_o with_o mat._n 13.55_o 56._o &_o how_o many_o of_o they_o be_v inhabitant_n of_o jerusalem_n or_o judaea_n it_o be_v not_o specify_v
at_o home_n and_o in_o matter_n of_o judgement_n see_v justice_n be_v to_o be_v do_v to_o one_o person_n as_o well_o as_o to_o a_o multitude_n jer._n 21.12_o &_o 22.3_o esa_n 58.6_o amos_n 5.12.24_o therefore_o if_o one_o person_n think_v himself_o oppress_v by_o a_o particular_a church_n the_o liberty_n of_o appeal_n be_v not_o to_o be_v deny_v he_o iii_o whereas_o they_o say_v hence_o our_o divine_n teach_v etc._n etc._n who_o do_v they_o mean_v by_o this_o phrase_n our_o divine_n do_v w._n b._n mean_v the_o arminian_n divine_v unto_o who_o he_o have_v decline_v and_o be_v become_v one_o of_o their_o disciple_n do_v mr_n c._n mean_v the_o divine_n of_o the_o separation_n the_o communion_n of_o other_o divine_n be_v renounce_v by_o they_o and_o these_o also_o be_v such_o that_o if_o a_o whole_a church_n together_o shall_v agree_v to_o refer_v their_o controversy_n unto_o the_o judgement_n of_o a_o synod_n they_o hold_v it_o to_o be_v a_o antichristian_a bondage_n do_v they_o mean_v mr_n parker_n who_o they_o allege_v immediate_o before_o and_o unto_o who_o they_o seem_v to_o have_v reference_n by_o that_o ambiguous_a quotation_n so_o set_v down_o in_o the_o margin_n as_o if_o it_o belong_v unto_o that_o which_o go_v before_o yet_o he_o be_v but_o one_o and_o none_o of_o they_o mr_n parker_n say_v indeed_o 338._o indeed_o pol._n eccl._n p._n 338._o there_o that_o this_o delegation_n and_o power_n of_o delegate_a be_v not_o in_o one_o bishop_n but_o in_o the_o church_n themselves_o he_o speak_v of_o that_o communication_n of_o church_n when_o some_o deal_n with_o other_o concern_v any_o ecclesiastical_a business_n by_o send_v their_o delegate_n or_o messenger_n unto_o they_o which_o power_n of_o send_v delegate_n in_o ecclesiastical_a affair_n he_o prove_v to_o be_v in_o the_o church_n itself_o and_o not_o in_o any_o one_o bishop_n in_o opposition_n unto_o the_o hierarchy_n who_o will_v have_v such_o business_n to_o be_v do_v by_o themselves_o and_o in_o their_o own_o name_n that_o which_o mr_n parker_n say_v be_v no_o way_n contrary_a unto_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o class_n and_o synod_n where_o the_o deputy_n and_o delegate_n of_o the_o church_n appear_v in_o the_o name_n of_o those_o several_a church_n from_o which_o they_o be_v send_v acknowledge_v the_o power_n of_o their_o delegation_n to_o be_v derive_v unto_o they_o from_o the_o same_o mr_n c._n and_o w._n b._n confound_v these_o two_o thing_n which_o be_v to_o be_v distinguish_v viz._n the_o deal_n in_o church_n affair_n in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o church_n which_o they_o only_o be_v allow_v to_o do_v who_o be_v choose_v of_o the_o church_n and_o design_v thereunto_o and_o the_o propound_v of_o personal_a grievance_n in_o case_n of_o appeal_n or_o complaint_n touch_v any_o thing_n that_o be_v amiss_o which_o as_o we_o say_v before_o be_v free_a unto_o every_o officer_n and_o member_n of_o the_o church_n when_o he_o can_v otherwise_o be_v satisfy_v he_o do_v it_o still_o in_o his_o 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his_o affirmation_n be_v 77._o be_v poli._n eccl_n l._n 3._o c._n 12._o p._n 77._o that_o the_o superiorit_n of_o jurisdiction_n be_v retain_v in_o every_o church_n so_o that_o neither_o the_o pastor_n in_o the_o prime_a church_n nor_o the_o president_n in_o the_o combine_a church_n nor_o yet_o any_o bishop_n be_v above_o the_o church_n but_o under_o the_o power_n of_o every_o church_n this_o distinction_n of_o the_o church_n be_v more_o plain_o declare_v by_o he_o afterward_o where_o he_o say_v 117._o say_v ibid._n c._n 13._o p._n 117._o est_fw-la itaque_fw-la visibilis_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la duplex_fw-la prima_fw-la et_fw-la orta_fw-la prima_fw-la est_fw-la collectio_fw-la singulorum_fw-la fidelium_fw-la in_o unam_fw-la congregationem_fw-la et_fw-la generali_fw-la nomine_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la dicitur_fw-la orta_fw-la est_fw-la collectio_fw-la &_o combinatio_fw-la ecclesiarum_fw-la primarum_fw-la plurium_fw-la in_o unum_fw-la coetum_fw-la &_o appellatur_fw-la synodus_fw-la that_o be_v 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it_o among_o themselves_o but_o need_v of_o more_o
controversy_n that_o arise_v in_o the_o same_o and_o according_a to_o mr_n parker_n do_v exercise_v a_o lawful_a jurisdiction_n herein_o from_o this_o communication_n of_o church_n he_o come_v to_o speak_v 340._o speak_v ibid._n c._n 23._o p._n 345._o 340._o of_o their_o combination_n from_o whence_o arise_v a_o combine_a church_n derive_v from_o other_o church_n this_o combination_n he_o note_v to_o consist_v either_o of_o two_o or_o more_o church_n a_o instance_n of_o this_o combination_n of_o two_o he_o give_v in_o the_o synod_n at_o jerusalem_n act._n 15._o and_o say_v it_o be_v a_o council_n and_o synod_n and_o that_o proper_o and_o that_o of_o two_o church_n to_o wit_n of_o antioch_n and_o jerusalem_n for_o the_o messenger_n send_v from_o antioch_n be_v present_a which_o represent_v the_o church_n of_o antioch_n as_o be_v usual_a in_o counsel_n and_o notwithstanding_o a_o objection_n make_v against_o the_o church_n of_o antioch_n yet_o he_o say_v that_o church_n be_v also_o 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with_o other_o church_n also_o eph._n 4.4_o 5_o 6._o 1._o cor._n 12.13_o and_o by_o excommunication_n it_o may_v be_v deprive_v and_o cut_v off_o from_o that_o comfortable_a fellowship_n to_o the_o great_a grief_n terror_n and_o shame_n thereof_o for_o their_o humiliation_n thereby_o and_o for_o the_o warn_n of_o other_o 2._o because_o a_o obstinate_a and_o rebellious_a church_n by_o a_o sentence_n of_o excommunication_n may_v be_v cast_v out_o of_o itself_o and_o deprive_v of_o communion_n in_o itself_o either_o in_o the_o dissolution_n of_o that_o unlawful_a society_n while_o the_o magistrate_n help_v to_o execute_v the_o sentence_n or_o otherwise_o in_o make_v their_o communion_n abominable_a even_o unto_o their_o own_o conscience_n by_o the_o hand_n of_o god_n work_v with_o his_o own_o ordinance_n in_o deliver_v they_o to_o satan_n for_o the_o destruction_n of_o the_o flesh_n and_o deprive_v they_o of_o inward_a rest_n notwithstanding_o any_o pretend_a security_n of_o the_o 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into_o error_n &_o offence_n than_o it_o become_v subject_a to_o the_o other_o and_o the_o other_o have_v authority_n over_o it_o to_o rebuke_v &_o censure_v the_o same_o this_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v by_o proportion_n of_o two_o brethren_n member_n of_o one_o church_n though_o both_o of_o they_o be_v in_o their_o estate_n equal_a yet_o he_o that_o offend_v become_v subject_a to_o the_o other_o who_o thereupon_o have_v power_n over_o he_o in_o a_o degree_n of_o bind_v and_o lose_v a_o power_n of_o lose_v and_o forgive_a he_o if_o he_o repent_v a_o power_n of_o retain_v his_o sin_n and_o bind_v he_o over_o to_o further_a proceed_v if_o he_o do_v not_o repent_v luk._n 17.3_o 4._o with_o matt._n 18._o on_o this_o manner_n that_o general_a commandment_n of_o mutual_a subjection_n to_o one_o another_o 1._o pet._n 5.5_o ought_v to_o take_v place_n in_o two_o church_n as_o well_o as_o in_o two_o person_n his_o 3_o reason_n be_v because_o the_o member_n of_o one_o church_n be_v neither_o subject_n to_o the_o government_n of_o another_o neither_o do_v they_o belong_v immediate_o unto_o the_o communion_n of_o other_o church_n but_o by_o the_o communion_n of_o their_o own_o church_n come_v betwixt_o the_o first_o part_n of_o this_o reason_n touch_v subjection_n be_v answer_v before_o and_o for_o the_o second_o part_n of_o it_o there_o be_v no_o weight_n therein_o for_o those_o that_o belong_v unto_o the_o communion_n of_o other_o church_n but_o mediate_o be_v not_o therefore_o exempt_v from_o the_o jurisdiction_n and_o authority_n of_o they_o and_o again_o the_o covenant_n of_o communion_n make_v at_o the_o first_o confederation_n of_o church_n for_o their_o mutual_a government_n by_o a_o synod_n remain_v firm_a for_o the_o continuance_n and_o exercise_n of_o authority_n either_o for_o or_o against_o some_o particular_a member_n of_o any_o one_o church_n in_o that_o combination_n although_o that_o church_n unjust_o violate_v their_o covenant_n shall_v refuse_v to_o consent_v or_o communicate_v with_o the_o synod_n in_o their_o act_n of_o ecclesiastical_a judgement_n and_o censure_n of_o some_o scandalous_a person_n among_o they_o moreover_o that_o which_o d._n ames_n write_v in_o the_o same_o chapter_n may_v just_o lead_v we_o to_o acknowledge_v the_o necessity_n of_o synod_n and_o their_o authority_n in_o the_o censure_n of_o offender_n 1._o he_o add_v in_o his_o answer_n to_o the_o same_o question_n touch_v whole_a church_n &_o member_n of_o another_o church_n that_o though_o they_o may_v not_o proper_o be_v excommunicate_v 26._o excommunicate_v case_n con_fw-la l_o 4._o c_o 29._o q._n 11._o the_o 26._o yet_o for_o manifest_a heresy_n or_o great_a fault_n they_o may_v be_v condemn_v forsake_a reject_v which_o be_v proportionable_a to_o excommunication_n if_o he_o grant_v this_o authority_n unto_o synod_n thus_o to_o condemn_v whole_a church_n than_o he_o confess_v that_o they_o have_v more_o power_n then_o only_o to_o counsel_n or_o admonish_v if_o he_o grant_v this_o authority_n unto_o any_o other_o ecclesiastical_a person_n and_o not_o to_o class_n or_o synod_n the_o warrant_n from_o scripture_n ought_v to_o be_v show_v a_o censure_n proportionable_a to_o excommunication_n require_v a_o authority_n proportionable_a to_o they_o that_o may_v excommunicate_v for_o the_o execution_n thereof_o ii_o in_o the_o same_o chapter_n propound_v this_o case_n of_o conscience_n 10._o conscience_n ibid._n q._n 10._o what_o be_v to_o be_v do_v of_o the_o pastor_n where_o a_o fit_a eldership_n be_v want_v or_o where_o the_o people_n do_v not_o consent_v unto_o ajust_a excommunication_n his_o resolution_n be_v the_o solemn_a proceed_n may_v be_v omit_v yet_o a_o good_a pastor_n ought_v to_o give_v all_o diligence_n hereunto_o with_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o faithful_a member_n that_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o matter_n be_v so_o far_o preserve_v that_o holy_a thing_n be_v not_o give_v unto_o dog_n &_o swine_n mat._n 7.6_o and_o that_o all_o public_a scandal_n be_v public_o reprooved_a but_o by_o this_o direction_n neither_o be_v the_o peace_n of_o the_o minister_n conscience_n provide_v for_o nor_o yet_o the_o safety_n of_o the_o church_n for_o by_o what_o warrant_n may_v a_o pastor_n by_o his_o sole_a authority_n determine_v and_o reject_v some_o member_n as_o dog_n and_o exclude_v they_o from_o the_o holy_a thing_n from_o the_o sacrament_n and_o this_o not_o only_o without_o allowance_n of_o the_o eldership_n but_o against_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o people_n and_o body_n of_o the_o congregation_n or_o the_o great_a part_n of_o it_o this_o be_v in_o effect_n a_o excommunication_n or_o as_o he_o call_v it_o the_o essence_n or_o substance_n of_o the_o matter_n for_o excommunication_n great_a or_o less_o be_v the_o only_a ecclesiastical_a judgement_n appoint_v of_o god_n to_o keep_v holy_a thing_n from_o be_v give_v unto_o dog_n to_o permit_v this_o authority_n unto_o the_o pastor_n alone_o be_v to_o open_v a_o door_n for_o tyranny_n and_o oppression_n of_o the_o church_n and_o be_v condemn_v by_o those_o 4_o reason_n which_o he_o give_v for_o confirmation_n of_o his_o answer_n unto_o the_o 9_o question_n immediate_o go_v before_o it_o be_v the_o denial_n of_o synod_n that_o drive_v unto_o such_o extremity_n iii_o that_o which_o he_o here_o say_v of_o public_a reprove_v all_o public_a scandal_n be_v again_o empeach_v by_o that_o which_o be_v say_v before_o 13._o before_o ibid._n q._n 4._o the_o 12_o 13._o that_o in_o those_o church_n which_o through_o want_n of_o discipline_n be_v trouble_v with_o confusion_n it_o be_v not_o always_o necessary_a for_o the_o person_n offend_v to_o admonish_v the_o offendor_n because_o he_o shall_v oftentimes_o in_o vain_a begin_v that_o which_o he_o have_v no_o power_n to_o finish_v that_o the_o commandment_n of_o solemn_a admonish_v of_o a_o brother_n offend_v do_v then_o only_o bind_v when_o there_o be_v some_o hope_n that_o the_o same_o will_v
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mr_n cartwright_n and_o other_o also_o teach_v the_o same_o thing_n argum_fw-la iii_o 70._o iii_o church_n plea._n p._n 70._o whatsoever_o be_v command_v to_o the_o 7_o church_n to_o be_v practise_v by_o each_o of_o they_o apart_z in_o and_o for_o themselves_o that_o no_o church_n of_o god_n must_v now_o omit_v but_o ecclesiastical_a government_n be_v command_v to_o the_o 7_o church_n to_o be_v practise_v by_o each_o of_o they_o apart_z in_o and_o for_o themselves_o therefore_o no_o church_n of_o god_n must_v omit_v the_o practice_n of_o ecclesiastical_a government_n apart_o in_o and_o for_o themselves_o the_o proposition_n can_v be_v doubt_v of_o for_o as_o chytraeus_n etc._n etc._n the_o assumption_n be_v prove_v clear_o in_o chap._n 2._o vers_fw-la 2_o 14_o 20._o etc._n etc._n moreover_o mr_n perkins_n etc._n etc._n answ._n i._n this_o argument_n for_o the_o form_n of_o it_o be_v a_o misshape_a syllogism_n and_o that_o in_o a_o double_a respect_n both_o because_o the_o minor_a 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government_n apart_o in_o &_o for_o themselves_o this_o they_o practise_v after_o a_o double_a manner_n 1._o there_o be_v many_o rebuke_n and_o censure_n against_o sin_n administer_v in_o they_o without_o the_o knowledge_n of_o classis_fw-la or_o synod_n apart_o in_o and_z for_o themselves_o 2._o when_o as_o more_o hard_a &_o weighty_a cause_n be_v bring_v unto_o the_o deputy_n of_o other_o church_n assemble_v in_o class_n for_o their_o advice_n and_o judgement_n even_o then_o also_o when_o upon_o their_o consideration_n matter_n be_v clear_v and_o there_o remain_v no_o scruple_n they_o be_v then_o remit_v again_o and_o refer_v unto_o the_o particular_a church_n so_o that_o the_o eldership_n with_o consent_n of_o the_o congregation_n proceed_v therein_o as_o they_o find_v cause_n according_a to_o the_o repentance_n or_o obstinacy_n of_o the_o person_n with_o who_o they_o have_v to_o deal_v and_o so_o the_o sentence_n be_v both_o determine_v and_o execute_v apart_o in_o &_o for_o themselves_o without_o the_o classis_fw-la but_o if_o by_o government_n to_o be_v practise_v apart_o in_o and_z for_o themselves_o he_o mean_v such_o a_o solitary_a and_o separate_a government_n as_o refuse_v combination_n with_o other_o neighbour_n church_n such_o as_o admit_v no_o liberty_n of_o appeal_n in_o case_n of_o great_a wrong_n such_o as_o except_v a_o particular_a congregation_n from_o the_o censure_n of_o all_o other_o church_n though_o it_o shall_v err_v never_o so_o pernicious_o and_o in_o sum_n such_o a_o government_n apart_o as_o deny_v all_o authority_n and_o jurisdiction_n of_o class_n and_o synod_n then_o be_v his_o assumption_n most_o false_a and_o all_o that_o he_o allege_v for_o proof_n thereof_o help_v he_o nothing_o for_o 1._o though_o the_o angel_n of_o the_o church_n of_o ephesus_n be_v commend_v for_o not_o bear_v with_o the_o wicked_a etc._n etc._n and_o the_o angel_n of_o the_o church_n of_o pergamus_n and_o thyatira_n be_v reprehend_v for_o suffer_v divers_a enormity_n rev._n 2.2.14.20_o by_o what_o good_a consequence_n can_v these_o example_n overthrow_v the_o authority_n of_o synod_n there_o may_v be_v occasion_n at_o this_o day_n to_o write_v unto_o some_o minister_n stand_v under_o the_o class_n and_o synod_n in_o these_o reform_a church_n and_o some_o of_o they_o may_v just_o be_v commend_v for_o their_o zeal_n in_o not_o bear_v with_o the_o wicked_a other_o may_v just_o be_v reprehend_v for_o their_o negligence_n in_o tolerate_v of_o such_o as_o offend_v now_o mr_n can_n according_a to_o this_o reason_n may_v as_o well_o conclude_v against_o experience_n &_o against_o the_o know_a truth_n that_o these_o minister_n do_v not_o stand_v under_o any_o classical_a government_n 2._o the_o praise_n or_o dispraise_v which_o be_v give_v to_o the_o angel_n of_o several_a church_n apart_o do_v not_o so_o much_o serve_v to_o argue_v a_o independency_n or_o disunion_n in_o government_n in_o these_o church_n but_o the_o very_a 3.1_o very_a rev._n 1.16.20_o &_o 2.1_o &_o 3.1_o form_n of_o the_o vision_n in_o the_o union_n of_o these_o star_n of_o the_o church_n in_o christ_n right_a hand_n do_v rather_o argue_v a_o consociation_n of_o they_o for_o their_o mutual_a help_n in_o the_o government_n of_o his_o church_n they_o appear_v not_o scatter_v in_o the_o firmament_n but_o gather_v and_o draw_v together_o what_o be_v a_o classis_fw-la or_o synod_n but_o as_o a_o constellation_n of_o so_o many_o star_n of_o the_o church_n combine_v together_o which_o by_o their_o conjunction_n together_o do_v yield_v both_o a_o great_a light_n of_o direction_n and_o a_o strong_a influence_n of_o authority_n for_o the_o confirmation_n of_o the_o truth_n and_o conviction_n of_o error_n and_o as_o for_o the_o testimony_n of_o mr_n perkins_n though_o he_o acknowledge_v 3.7_o acknowledge_v upon_o rev._n 2.20_o &_o 3.7_o god_n have_v give_v to_o every_o church_n power_n and_o authority_n to_o preach_v the_o word_n administer_v the_o sacrament_n repress_v evil_a man_n etc._n etc._n yet_o do_v he_o not_o thereby_o exempt_a those_o church_n from_o the_o censure_n of_o other_o if_o they_o be_v find_v to_o pervert_v the_o word_n corrupt_v the_o sacrament_n and_o judge_v unrighteous_o it_o be_v not_o probable_a that_o such_o a_o conceit_n do_v ever_o enter_v into_o mr_n perkins_n head_n neither_o can_v it_o be_v collect_v from_o his_o word_n arcum_fw-la iv_o if_o the_o church_n of_o corinth_n have_v power_n and_o authority_n within_o herself_o to_o exercise_v ecclesiastical_a government_n yea_o and_o do_v it_o i_o mean_v the_o ministry_n and_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o church_n there_o then_o ought_v not_o particular_a congregation_n now_o to_o stand_v under_o any_o other_o ecclesiastical_a authority_n out_o of_o themselves_o but_o the_o first_o be_v true_a therefore_o the_o second_o the_o first_o part_n be_v unquestionable_o certain_a and_o of_o this_o judgement_n be_v d._n willet_n etc._n etc._n answ._n that_o which_o
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