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A86484 A rejoynder to Master Samuel Eaton and Master Timothy Taylor's reply. Or, an answer to their late book called A defence of sundry positions and scriptures, &c. With some occasionall animadversions on the book called the Congregational way justified. For the satisfaction of all that seek the truth in love, especially for his dearly beloved and longed for, the inhabitants in and neer to Manchester in Lancashire. / Made and published by Richard Hollinworth. Mancuniens. Hollingworth, Richard, 1607-1656. 1647 (1647) Wing H2496; Thomason E391_1; ESTC R201545 213,867 259

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one_o another_o as_o you_o confess_v defence_n p._n 16._o which_o can_v not_o be_v if_o all_o the_o member_n of_o the_o church_n be_v not_o in_o the_o city_n for_o certain_o all_o the_o citizen_n many_o be_v heathen_n be_v not_o of_o the_o church_n act_n chap._n 16._o verse_n 4_o 5._o act_n chap._n 14._o ver_fw-la 23._o cum_fw-la tit._n c._n 1._o v._n 5._o 5._o the_o way_n of_o christ_n all_o along_o in_o scripture_n be_v that_o christian_n dwell_v together_o shall_v together_o make_v one_o congregation_n and_o the_o convert_n of_o many_o christian_n in_o a_o place_n to_o be_v a_o church_n be_v all_o the_o gather_n of_o church_n that_o then_o be_v 6._o they_o that_o do_v remove_v from_o place_n to_o place_n do_v it_o be_v very_o probable_a as_o yourselves_o acknowledge_v page_n 2._o in_o the_o case_n of_o the_o scatter_a disciple_n fall_v into_o membership_n with_o those_o church_n where_o they_o do_v reside_v so_o aquila_n and_o priscilla_n may_v fall_v into_o membership_n sometime_o 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etc._n etc._n or_o that_o any_o dwell_v near_a to_o one_o church_n and_o be_v a_o member_n of_o a_o remote_a church_n or_o that_o any_o christian_n dwell_v remote_a one_o from_o another_o be_v unite_v into_o one_o particular_a church_n this_o have_v also_o the_o consent_n of_o godly_a learned_a man_n as_o mr_n carwright_n mr_n parker_n and_o other_o non-conformists'_a which_o agree_v against_o the_o brownist_n in_o the_o lawfulness_n and_o expediencie_n of_o confine_v for_o order_n sake_n particular_a church_n within_o the_o bound_n of_o distinct_a parish_n and_o in_o new_a england_n itself_o as_o i_o hear_v congregation_n be_v divide_v and_o bound_v by_o the_o division_n and_o bounding_n of_o town_n and_o parish_n as_o cambridge_n new_a plymouth_n boston_n etc._n etc._n 3_o suppose_v distinction_n of_o parish_n by_o bound_n and_o limit_n be_v but_o
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part_n if_o not_o the_o major_a part_n of_o that_o city_n be_v baptize_v by_o john_n see_v more_o cap._n 5._o sect._n 2._o 2._o you_o render_v no_o reason_n why_o it_o may_v not_o be_v at_o jerusalem_n as_o well_o as_o any_o other_o place_n 3._o imagine_v the_o place_n to_o be_v galilee_n or_o judaea_n and_o indeed_o you_o do_v but_o imagine_v it_o not_o prove_v it_o and_o those_o 500_o to_o appertain_v to_o galilee_n or_o judaea_n may_v they_o not_o be_v of_o the_o church_n of_o jerusalem_n be_v there_o yet_o any_o other_o church_n to_o which_o they_o do_v belong_v will_v they_o not_o desire_v the_o society_n of_o the_o apostle_n be_v there_o not_o man_n of_o galilee_n among_o the_o 120._o act_n 1.11.15_o &_o 2.7_o which_o
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