it_o and_o sir_n take_v heed_n your_o hand_n be_v not_o defile_v with_o it_o as_o indeed_o in_o this_o book_n you_o breath_n out_o somewhat_o that_o way_n not_o once_o and_o for_o your_o outcry_n o_o lord_n how_o low_o shall_v we_o be_v etc._n etc._n to_o it_o as_o intend_v by_o you_o i_o must_v say_v to_o you_o as_o job_n to_o his_o friend_n upon_o somewhat_o the_o like_a unjust_a challenge_n against_o he_o and_o misconstruction_n of_o god_n rod_n upon_o he_o will_v you_o speak_v wicked_o for_o god_n and_o talk_v deceitful_o for_o he_o be_v it_o good_a that_o he_o shall_v search_v you_o out_o or_o as_o one_o man_n mock_v another_o do_v you_o so_o mock_v he_o but_o now_o sir_n look_v upon_o the_o pollution_n and_o laying_n waste_v of_o his_o dwell_a place_n in_o england_n at_o this_o day_n which_o make_v all_o the_o church_n abroad_o the_o world_n to_o lament_v the_o case_n of_o it_o and_o see_v whether_o the_o presbyterian_a way_n or_o that_o way_n you_o stand_v for_o have_v effect_v they_o and_o i_o believe_v you_o may_v say_v it_o be_v not_o without_o a_o providence_n of_o 〈◊〉_d that_o you_o utter_v this_o exclamation_n in_o that_o 〈◊〉_d you_o have_v â—…red_v it_o in_o how_o low_a shall_v wâ—_n be_v erâ—_n wâ—_n lie_v 〈…〉_o heart_n section_n v._o mr_n lockier_n answer_n to_o some_o objection_n make_v against_o his_o assertion_n from_o some_o passage_n of_o scripture_n sect_n 13_o 14._o examine_v section_n 1_o mr._n locky_a now_o proceed_v to_o propound_v against_o his_o assertion_n and_o to_o answer_v some_o objection_n and_o in_o wisdom_n choose_v a_o few_o of_o many_o that_o be_v extant_a to_o the_o world_n in_o presbyterian_a writer_n of_o all_o be_v great_a weight_n as_o these_o he_o have_v pick_v out_o and_o propound_v some_o of_o they_o in_o as_o slender_a a_o way_n as_o he_o can_v that_o the_o force_n of_o they_o may_v appear_v as_o little_a as_o may_v be_v but_o see_v we_o they_o and_o his_o answer_n to_o they_o as_o they_o be_v section_n 2_o object_n first_o be_v from_o 1_o tim._n 4._o 14._o here_o be_v mention_v mâ—…_n of_o a_o presbytery_n or_o eldership_n by_o the_o imposition_n of_o who_o hand_n and_o by_o no_o other_o conjuâ—…_n timothy_n be_v ordain_v therefore_o the_o presbytery_n whole_o without_o the_o church_n may_v exert_v power_n authoritative_a in_o most_o weighty_a matter_n and_o 〈◊〉_d and_o gouâ—…_n the_o church_n alone_o this_o place_n we_o conceive_v will_v carâ—…_n 〈◊〉_d this_o and_o more_o too_o even_o a_o classical_a presbytery_n or_o a_o presbytery_n of_o more_o associate_n church_n but_o for_o the_o present_n consider_v we_o his_o answer_n as_o to_o the_o point_n in_o hand_n the_o presbytery_n here_o say_v he_o can_v be_v mean_v of_o a_o ordinary_a eldership_n which_o have_v its_o ordination_n from_o man_n because_o it_o be_v beyond_o the_o power_n of_o ordinary_a officer_n to_o give_v be_v to_o a_o extraordinary_a now_o such_o be_v timothy_n to_o wit_n a_o evangelist_n and_o therefore_o come_v not_o under_o our_o dispute_n but_o be_v to_o be_v rank_v with_o extraordinary_a apostolical_a act_n and_o ordination_n to_o extraordinary_a office_n which_o be_v cease_v of_o which_o nature_n sec_fw-la act_n 13._o 43._o section_n 3_o answ_n 1._o whether_o this_o be_v a_o ordinary_a eldership_n i_o e._n a_o college_n of_o ordinary_a perpetual_a elder_n or_o extraordinary_a yet_o it_o be_v a_o eldership_n and_o not_o the_o people_n that_o perform_v this_o act_n of_o ordination_n as_o he_o himself_o yield_v what_o then_o be_v become_v of_o his_o assertion_n in_o the_o precede_a section_n that_o iâ—_n these_o first_o time_n of_o the_o church_n the_o whole_a body_n 〈◊〉_d â—ear_a theâ—_n joint_a â—thoritative_a voice_n in_o all_o matter_n of_o great_a weight_n and_o sâ—_n â—…_n 10._o even_o in_o a_o ordination_n of_o aâ—_n extraoâ—dinar_fw-mi officer_n of_o greaâ—_n 〈◊〉_d then_o a_o evangelist_n 〈◊〉_d wherein_o he_o allege_v thâ—…â—at_a lest_o it_o may_v have_v prove_v a_o 〈◊〉_d to_o lustle_v out_o the_o privilege_n of_o the_o â—hole_a church_n in_o matter_n of_o essential_a concernment_n he_o be_v enstate_v aâ—ongst_a the_o apostle_n themselves_o not_o by_o the_o â—…ffragâ—…_n of_o some_o i._n e._n the_o apostle_n alone_o but_o by_o the_o suffrage_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n 2._o if_o the_o presbyteâ—…_n here_o can_v be_v mean_v of_o a_o ordinary_a eldership_n what_o be_v it_o i_o hope_v the_o author_n will_v not_o say_v with_o some_o pâ—pish_a and_o prelatical_a writer_n that_o it_o be_v a_o company_n of_o bishop_n that_o be_v both_o elder_n and_o more_o than_o elder_n i_o conceive_v he_o can_v mean_v no_o other_o thing_n but_o that_o same_o which_o the_o author_n of_o the_o query_n concern_v ordination_n qu._n 19_o that_o they_o be_v some_o other_o apostle_n or_o apostle_n fellow_n together_o with_o paul_n who_o 2_o tim._n 1._o â—_o be_v say_v to_o have_v â—ayed_v his_o hand_n on_o timothy_n and_o that_o apostle_n be_v call_v elder_n and_o a_o company_n of_o apostle_n be_v call_v a_o presbytery_n or_o a_o eldership_n i_o say_v it_o seem_v the_o author_n can_v conceive_v no_o other_o thing_n to_o be_v mean_v for_o he_o say_v it_o must_v be_v a_o eldership_n that_o have_v not_o eldership_n not_o and_o yet_o he_o himself_o above_o sect._n â—0_n such_o extraordinary_a elder_n may_v have_v their_o ordination_n from_o man_n &_o le_fw-fr facto_fw-la maâ—hias_n have_v his_o so_o so_o that_o by_o this_o â—e_n â—ayeth_v here_o matâ—ias_n though_o a_o apostle_n can_v not_o be_v one_o of_o this_o eldership_n ordination_n from_o man_n but_o this_o conceit_n be_v so_o abundant_o answer_v by_o mr._n gillespy_n of_o worthy_a memory_n miscell_n c._n 8._o pag._n 104._o &_o seq_fw-la that_o little_o need_v to_o be_v add_v to_o what_o be_v say_v 〈◊〉_d he_o i_o shall_v here_o brief_o touch_v at_o some_o particularâ—_n give_v in_o answer_n to_o this_o 1._o suppose_v the_o presbytery_n in_o this_o place_n 1_o tim._n 4._o 14._o to_o be_v a_o assembly_n of_o apostle_n yet_o nothing_o shall_v be_v gain_v thereby_o to_o mr._n lockier_n cause_n for_o the_o name_n presbytery_n or_o eldership_n be_v purposely_o choose_v in_o this_o text_n which_o mention_n lay_v on_o of_o hand_n in_o ordination_n will_v prove_v that_o the_o apostle_n do_v it_o as_o elder_n and_o as_o a_o act_n of_o a_o assemby_n of_o elder_n not_o as_o a_o thing_n peculiar_a to_o they_o as_o apostle_n for_o no_o rational_a man_n will_v imagine_v that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n intend_v to_o express_v some_o extraordinary_a thing_n which_o the_o apostle_n do_v as_o apostle_n and_o which_o belong_v not_o to_o ordinary_a elder_n will_v in_o that_o very_a thing_n purposely_o call_v they_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o assemby_n of_o elder_n 2._o that_o the_o presbytery_n here_o be_v not_o a_o assembly_n of_o apostle_n but_o of_o elder_n who_o be_v not_o apostle_n may_v be_v prove_v 1_o by_o compare_v this_o text_n with_o 2_o tim._n 1._o 6._o the_o gift_n of_o god_n which_o be_v in_o thou_o by_o the_o put_n on_o of_o my_o hand_n if_o it_o have_v be_v a_o assembly_n of_o apostle_n that_o have_v lay_v their_o hand_n on_o timothy_n and_o so_o join_v with_o paul_n in_o that_o action_n paul_n have_v not_o thus_o distinguish_v his_o lay_n on_o of_o hand_n from_o that_o of_o his_o fellow_n apostle_n as_o if_o the_o gift_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n have_v be_v give_v to_o timothy_n only_o by_o the_o lay_n on_o of_o his_o hand_n and_o not_o by_o but_o with_o the_o lay_n on_o of_o the_o hand_n of_o his_o fellow_n apostle_n of_o this_o difference_n of_o the_o phrase_n in_o the_o one_o text_n and_o the_o other_o see_v this_o same_o worthy_a author_n pag._n 101._o 2._o apostle_n and_o elder_n be_v ordinary_o distinguish_v name_n in_o scripture_n the_o latter_a signify_v the_o ordinary_a perpetual_a fix_a ruler_n in_o the_o church_n so_o that_o it_o must_v be_v but_o a_o devise_a fiction_n to_o leave_v the_o ordinary_a notion_n of_o the_o word_n elder_a which_o signify_v a_o office_n diverse_a from_o the_o apostleship_n and_o to_o take_v the_o eldership_n here_o for_o a_o assembly_n of_o apostle_n nay_o we_o do_v not_o find_v at_o any_o time_n in_o scripture_n the_o name_n elder_a give_v to_o the_o apostle_n at_o least_o never_o to_o they_o or_o any_o of_o they_o as_o apostle_n contradistinguish_v from_o other_o officer_n it_o be_v true_a peter_n 1_o epist_n 5._o 1._o call_v himself_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o from_o that_o very_a appellation_n the_o worthy_a author_n we_o be_v now_o borrow_v from_o do_v excellent_o reason_n and_o for_o our_o purpose_n against_o mr._n locky_a here_o i_o need_v not_o transcribe_v his_o word_n see_v the_o book_n be_v common_a the_o reader_n may_v have_v recourse_n to_o itself_o and_o have_v much_o satisfaction_n see_v page_n 105_o 106_o 107._o
office_n nor_o do_v we_o deny_v but_o the_o people_n may_v be_v present_a at_o the_o handle_n of_o matter_n of_o faith_n in_o assembly_n be_v hearer_n and_o witness_n of_o the_o whole_a proceed_n thereanent_a give_v their_o counsel_n and_o advice_n in_o consultation_n also_o testify_v their_o assent_n and_o approbation_n to_o the_o determination_n we_o grant_v also_o that_o excommunication_n and_o lose_v from_o excommunication_n of_o person_n be_v not_o perform_v without_o at_o least_o the_o tacit_n agreement_n and_o consent_n of_o the_o people_n â—hey_n be_v to_o concur_v actiuè_fw-la and_o executiuè_fw-la to_o both_o and_o therefore_o when_o any_o person_n be_v to_o be_v excommunicate_a the_o ground_n and_o cause_n thereof_o be_v make_v know_v to_o the_o people_n and_o when_o person_n excommunicate_v be_v to_o be_v receive_v again_o into_o the_o church_n they_o be_v bring_v before_o the_o people_n to_o make_v their_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d public_a confession_n before_o they_o as_o we_o do_v in_o our_o church_n now_o but_o none_o of_o these_o nor_o all_o of_o they_o amount_v to_o a_o authoritative_a and_o juridical_a power_n of_o government_n but_o as_o for_o such_o act_n as_o belong_v direct_o to_o authoritative_a and_o juridical_a government_n as_o ordination_n of_o minister_n judicial_a sentence_a person_n to_o be_v excommunicate_a or_o absolution_n from_o excommunication_n give_v of_o definitive_a sentence_n in_o public_a determination_n of_o controversy_n of_o faith_n or_o of_o matter_n pertain_v to_o order_n and_o rite_n to_o be_v observe_v in_o the_o church_n let_v our_o author_n produce_v any_o testimony_n or_o allow_v practice_n of_o the_o people_n formal_a influence_n and_o concurrence_n in_o these_o if_o they_o will_v say_v any_o thing_n from_o that_o antiquity_n for_o a_o ecclesiastic_a government_n proper_o democraticall_a either_o in_o whole_a or_o in_o part_n section_n 15_o hierome_n who_o be_v near_o these_o age_n and_o better_o acquaint_v with_o their_o way_n than_o these_o author_n tell_v we_o in_o the_o general_a in_o who_o hand_n the_o power_n of_o government_n be_v then_o in_o that_o remarkable_a and_o famous_a say_n of_o he_o on_o the_o epistle_n to_o tit._n c._n 1._o antequam_fw-la diaboli_fw-la instinctu_fw-la studia_fw-la in_o religione_fw-la fierent_fw-la &_o diceretur_fw-la in_o populo_fw-la ego_fw-la sum_fw-la pauli_n ego_fw-la apollo_n ego_fw-la vero_fw-la cephae_fw-la communi_fw-la presbyterorum_fw-la consilio_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la gubernabantur_fw-la etc._n etc._n see_v what_o learned_a chamier_n say_v on_o this_o of_o hierome_n lib._n 10._o de_fw-la oecumen_fw-la pontifc_fw-la 5._o §_o 22._o answer_v to_o bellarmin_n he_o arg._n respondeo_fw-la ad_fw-la primum_fw-la etiamsi_fw-la aristocratia_fw-la non_fw-la sit_fw-la totidem_fw-la syllabis_fw-la nominata_fw-la tamen_fw-la certò_fw-la significatam_fw-la his_fw-la verbis_fw-la communi_fw-la presbyterorum_fw-la consilio_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la gubernabantur_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o he_o add_v bonam_fw-la autem_fw-la fuisse_fw-la id_fw-la regiminis_fw-la formam_fw-la inde_fw-la sequitur_fw-la quod_fw-la ab_fw-la initio_fw-la fuisse_fw-la dicat_fw-la hieronymus_n come_v in_o ecclesiâ_fw-la id_fw-la sit_fw-la optimum_fw-la quod_fw-la verissimum_fw-la id_fw-la autem_fw-la verissimum_fw-la quod_fw-la primum_fw-la dicit_fw-la etiam_fw-la hieron_n fuisse_fw-la ex_fw-la institutionis_fw-la dominicae_fw-la veritate_fw-la and_o mark_v in_o this_o same_o learned_a author_n who_o word_n i_o be_o now_o cite_v that_o the_o very_a thing_n he_o undertake_v to_o demonstrate_v in_o that_o c._n 5._o and_o some_o follow_v both_o from_o scripture_n and_o antiquity_n be_v that_o the_o government_n as_o well_o of_o particular_a as_o of_o consociat_fw-la churches_n be_v pure_a aristocracy_n c._n 5._o §_o 1._o section_n 16_o more_o particular_o 1._o that_o ordination_n and_o imposition_n of_o hand_n which_o only_o be_v the_o authoritative_a act_n in_o the_o call_v of_o a_o minister_n and_o that_o which_o confer_v ministerial_o under_o christ_n a_o mininisteriall_a power_n be_v in_o these_o primitive_a time_n the_o proper_a and_o peculiar_a act_n of_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o church_n or_o the_o presbytery_n be_v so_o evident_a and_o clear_a to_o all_o that_o have_v read_v any_o thing_n of_o these_o time_n that_o it_o be_v waste_v of_o time_n and_o paper_n to_o produce_v testimony_n for_o it_o indeed_o we_o find_v in_o antiquity_n that_o after_o that_o once_o there_o begin_v a_o constant_a president_n to_o be_v set_v up_o in_o the_o presbytery_n with_o the_o name_n of_o bishop_n which_o in_o scripture_n be_v common_a to_o all_o presbyter_n appropriate_a to_o he_o alone_o somewhat_o of_o the_o act_n of_o ordination_n begin_v also_o to_o be_v peculiar_a to_o he_o and_o as_o he_o advance_v in_o his_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d preeminency_n above_o presbyter_n so_o be_v the_o power_n of_o ordination_n more_o and_o more_o defer_v to_o he_o or_o usurp_v by_o he_o alone_o and_o hence_o come_v that_o point_n of_o difference_n between_o a_o bishop_n and_o a_o presbyter_n of_o which_o i_o in_o his_o time_n quid_fw-la facit_fw-la exceptâ_fw-la ordinatione_fw-la episcopus_fw-la quod_fw-la non_fw-la facit_fw-la presbyter_n but_o that_o ever_o the_o people_n have_v any_o formal_a concurrence_n in_o ordination_n of_o minister_n be_v a_o thing_n unknown_a to_o antiquity_n section_n 17_o 2._o that_o the_o power_n and_o exercise_v of_o the_o key_n of_o discipline_n of_o bind_v and_o lose_v sentence_v unto_o censure_n and_o absolution_n from_o censure_n also_o be_v only_o in_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o college_n of_o presbyter_n in_o those_o time_n of_o the_o church_n be_v as_o evident_a to_o such_o as_o be_v any_o way_n acquaint_v in_o they_o origen_n hom._n 7._o in_o josuam_fw-la tertio_fw-la admonitum_fw-la resipiscere_fw-la nolentem_fw-la jubet_fw-la ab_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la corpore_fw-la desecari_fw-la per_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la praesides_fw-la the_o centuriator_n cent._n 3._o c._n 7._o tell_v we_o that_o then_o jus_fw-la tractandi_fw-la de_fw-la excommunicandis_fw-la aut_fw-la recipiendis_fw-la lapsis_fw-la publicae_fw-la penes_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la seniores_fw-la erat_fw-la qui_fw-la ad_fw-la eam_fw-la rem_fw-la convenire_fw-la solebant_fw-la and_o they_o cite_v for_o this_o tertullia_n apologetic_n the_o order_n then_o observe_v in_o receive_v penitent_n that_o have_v offend_v by_o grievous_a scandalous_a sin_n be_v most_o clear_a for_o this_o they_o be_v first_o to_o compear_v before_o the_o bishop_n and_o his_o clergy_n i._n e._n the_o presbytery_n wherein_o the_o bishop_n then_o differ_v from_o other_o presbyter_n ordine_fw-la tantum_fw-la non_fw-la gradu_fw-la by_o they_o the_o penitent_n cause_v be_v judicial_o cognosce_v the_o manner_n of_o satisfaction_n prescribe_v and_o enjoin_v to_o they_o and_o have_v perform_v that_o and_o make_v their_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d before_o the_o people_n they_o be_v actual_o absolve_v by_o the_o imposition_n of_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o bishop_n and_o clergy_n or_o the_o presbytery_n cyprian_n epistle_n be_v full_a of_o testimony_n to_o this_o purpose_n it_o be_v needless_a labour_n to_o insist_v in_o citation_n of_o they_o only_o i_o think_v it_o worth_a the_o pain_n to_o produce_v one_o passage_n whereby_o it_o may_v evident_o appear_v that_o the_o way_n of_o absolve_v and_o receive_v penitent_n be_v just_a as_o it_o be_v now_o in_o the_o presbyterian_a government_n as_o to_o the_o matter_n and_o substance_n it_o be_v in_o lib._n 3._o epist_n 11._o in_o pamel_n ord._n epist_n 46._o from_o cornelius_n bishop_n of_o rome_n to_o cyprian_a concern_v the_o return_n of_o some_o confessor_n from_o the_o novatian_a schism_n to_o the_o unity_n of_o the_o church_n there_o cornelius_n after_o he_o have_v relate_v how_o these_o confessor_n have_v express_v their_o desire_n of_o reconciliation_n to_o the_o presbyter_n and_o take_v with_o the_o fault_n lay_v to_o their_o charge_n in_o a_o private_a and_o extrajudiciall_a way_n he_o proceed_v thus_o omni_fw-la igitur_fw-la actu_fw-la ad_fw-la i_o perlato_fw-la placuit_fw-la contrahi_fw-la presbyterium_fw-la adfuerunt_fw-la etiam_fw-la episcopi_fw-la quinque_fw-la qui_fw-la &_o hodie_fw-la praesentes_fw-la fuerunt_fw-la ut_fw-la firmato_fw-la consilio_fw-la quid_fw-la circa_fw-la personam_fw-la eorum_fw-la observari_fw-la deberet_fw-la consensu_fw-la omnium_fw-la statueretur_fw-la et_fw-la ut_fw-la motum_fw-la omnium_fw-la &_o consilium_fw-la singulorum_fw-la dignosceres_fw-la etiam_fw-la sententias_fw-la nostras_fw-la placuit_fw-la in_o notitiam_fw-la vestri_fw-la perferri_fw-la quas_fw-la &_o subjectas_fw-la leges_fw-la his_o ita_fw-la gestis_fw-la in_o presbyterium_fw-la venerunt_fw-la vrbanus_n etc._n etc._n et_fw-la plerique_fw-la fratres_fw-la qui_fw-la se_fw-la iis_fw-la adjunxerant_fw-la summis_fw-la precibus_fw-la desiderantes_fw-la ut_fw-la ea_fw-la 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de_fw-fr occultis_fw-la non_fw-la iudicat_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la as_o be_v confess_v by_o hooker_n survey_v part._n 1._o c._n 2._o pag._n 15._o speak_v of_o the_o same_o purpose_n and_o by_o mr._n locky_a himself_n pag._n 55._o section_n 11_o 4._o consider_v there_o be_v a_o holiness_n relative_a or_o adherent_a and_o a_o holiness_n absolute_a and_o inherent_a the_o holiness_n relative_a and_o adherent_a consist_v in_o the_o separation_n of_o a_o thing_n from_o a_o common_a use_n and_o dedication_n of_o it_o unto_o some_o holy_a use_n or_o end_n holiness_n absolute_a or_o inherent_a consist_v in_o quality_n or_o action_n of_o a_o person_n agreeable_a to_o the_o law_n of_o god._n in_o the_o former_a way_n the_o stone_n of_o which_o the_o temple_n be_v build_v be_v call_v stone_n of_o holiness_n lam._n 4._o 1._o so_o the_o temple_n itself_o the_o vessel_n consecrate_v to_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n the_o city_n of_o jerusalem_n be_v call_v holy_a in_o like_a manner_n person_n in_o a_o 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it_o as_o plain_o as_o i_o may_v what_o be_v requisite_a in_o a_o person_n as_o the_o necessary_a qualification_n in_o the_o ecclesiastic_a court_n whereupon_o he_o be_v to_o be_v receive_v or_o acknowledge_v as_o a_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n and_o be_v to_o be_v account_v as_o not_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i._n e._n among_o these_o that_o be_v without_o but_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i._n e._n among_o those_o that_o be_v within_o and_o so_o over_o who_o the_o pastor_n and_o ruler_n of_o the_o church_n shall_v watch_v and_o care_v to_o feed_v he_o by_o the_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n according_a to_o his_o capacity_n and_o to_o who_o private_a christian_n ought_v to_o perform_v duty_n of_o christian_a communion_n according_a to_o their_o station_n viz._n whether_o real_a internal_a grace_n of_o regeneration_n repentance_n towards_o god_n and_o faith_n in_o jesus_n christ_n at_o least_o such_o evident_a sign_n thereof_o manifest_v and_o approven_v upon_o 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1_o 2_o 8_o 9_o mr._n cotton_v way_n cap._n 3._o sect_n 2._o pag._n 54_o 55._o sect_n 3._o pag._n 56_o 57_o 58._o so_o in_o a_o word_n their_o doctrine_n in_o this_o point_n be_v that_o none_o be_v to_o be_v receive_v member_n into_o external_a fellowship_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n but_o such_o as_o be_v already_o true_a heart-converts_a endue_v with_o save_v grace_n and_o have_v real_a internal_a fellowship_n with_o christ_n in_o the_o judgement_n of_o charity_n ground_v upon_o such_o trial_n and_o evidence_n as_o we_o have_v hear_v section_n 15_o as_o for_o our_o judgement_n in_o the_o controversy_n i_o mean_v of_o the_o church_n of_o scotland_n at_o which_o the_o adversary_n especial_o this_o with_o who_o we_o have_v to_o do_v main_o have_v a_o eye_n albeit_o we_o know_v no_o protestant_a church_n in_o the_o world_n differ_v from_o we_o in_o this_o but_o the_o independent_o scarce_o shall_v you_o find_v any_o of_o our_o adversary_n direct_o make_v a_o proposal_n of_o it_o what_o it_o be_v but_o for_o the_o most_o part_n as_o they_o give_v intimation_n thereof_o here_o and_o there_o will_v bear_v man_n in_o hand_n that_o we_o do_v allow_v any_o whosoever_o profess_v the_o christian_a faith_n although_o their_o life_n and_o conversation_n be_v never_o so_o wicked_a and_o profane_a to_o be_v fit_a matter_n and_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n which_o be_v i_o must_v say_v much_o want_n of_o ingenuity_n in_o they_o and_o great_a injury_n do_v to_o we_o as_o will_v appear_v short_o so_o mr._n locky_a along_o this_o piece_n intimate_v our_o doctrine_n speak_v always_o of_o person_n mere_o profess_v the_o thing_n of_o god_n but_o i_o wonder_v much_o how_o that_o do_v fall_v from_o the_o pen_n of_o reverend_a mr._n hooker_n speak_v of_o our_o judgement_n suru._n p._n 1._o c._n 2._o pag._n 20._o the_o pinch_n of_o the_o difference_n lie_v in_o this_o whether_o such_o as_o walk_v in_o a_o way_n of_o profaneness_n or_o remain_v pertinacious_o obstinate_a 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down_o summary_o here_o a_o little_a before_o section_n 17_o 2._o conclus_fw-la a_o serious_a sober_a outward_a profession_n of_o the_o faith_n and_o true_a christian_a religion_n together_o with_o a_o serious_a profession_n of_o forsake_v former_a sinful_a course_n if_o the_o person_n be_v one_o come_v out_o of_o heathenism_n or_o some_o false_a religion_n or_o a_o outward_a conversation_n free_a of_o scandal_n at_o least_o accompany_v with_o obstinacy_n if_o he_o have_v be_v a_o christian_a in_o profession_n before_o and_o a_o serious_a profession_n of_o subjection_n unto_o the_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n a_o serious_a profession_n of_o these_o thing_n i_o say_v as_o such_o consider_v abstract_o abstractione_n simplici_fw-la from_o the_o work_n of_o inward_a save_a grace_n and_o heart-conversion_n by_o true_a repentance_n and_o faith_n be_v sufficient_a qualification_n in_o the_o ecclesiastic_a court_n to_o constitute_v a_o person_n fit_a matter_n to_o be_v receive_v as_o a_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n and_o account_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i._o e._n among_o these_o that_o be_v within_o if_o it_o be_v ask_v what_o i_o mean_v by_o a_o serious_a profession_n i_o ans_fw-fr such_o a_o profession_n as_o have_v in_o it_o at_o least_o a_o moral_a sincerity_n as_o practic_a divine_n be_v wont_a to_o distinguish_v though_o haply_o not_o always_o a_o supernatural_a sincerity_n i._n e._n that_o i_o may_v speak_v more_o plain_o which_o be_v not_o open_o and_o discernable_o simulate_v histrionick_a scenical_a and_o hypocritical_a in_o that_o hypocrisy_n which_o be_v gross_a but_o all_o circumstance_n be_v consider_v by_o which_o ingenuity_n be_v estimate_n among_o man_n give_v credit_n one_o to_o another_o there_o appear_v no_o reason_n why_o the_o man_n may_v not_o and_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v esteem_v as_o to_o the_o matter_n to_o think_v and_o purpose_n as_o he_o speak_v from_o whatsoever_o habitual_a principle_n it_o proceed_v whether_o viz._n of_o save_a grace_n and_o faith_n or_o of_o faith_n historical_a and_o conviction_n wroâ—…_n by_o some_o common_a operation_n of_o the_o spirit_n a_o man_n that_o have_v such_o a_o profession_n as_o this_o and_o desire_v church-communion_n i_o say_v the_o church_n ought_v to_o receive_v he_o as_o a_o member_n and_o albeit_o i_o deny_v not_o but_o where_o there_o be_v just_a or_o probable_a ground_n of_o suspicion_n that_o the_o profession_n have_v simulation_n and_o fraudulent_a deal_n under_o it_o as_o in_o one_o new_a come_v from_o a_o heretical_a religion_n or_o who_o have_v be_v before_o a_o persecutor_n of_o the_o faith_n and_o professor_n thereof_o there_o may_v be_v a_o delay_n in_o prudencie_n and_o time_n take_v to_o try_v and_o prove_v if_o he_o deal_v serious_o and_o ingenuous_o but_o that_o trial_n must_v not_o be_v to_o cognosce_fw-la upon_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o work_n of_o save_a grace_n in_o the_o heart_n pastors_n indeed_o ought_v wise_o and_o diligent_o try_v and_o 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find_v say_v these_o thing_n 1._o that_o none_o be_v to_o be_v admit_v into_o the_o fellowship_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n but_o such_o as_o may_v and_o be_v judge_v to_o be_v member_n of_o the_o invisible_a church_n and_o true_a believer_n p._n 1._o c._n 27._o pag._n 73._o i_o take_v it_o for_o grant_v say_v he_o that_o to_o be_v a_o visible_a member_n of_o the_o church_n and_o to_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n be_v all_o one_o and_o a_o little_a after_o because_o man_n seem_v to_o be_v of_o the_o invisible_a church_n therefore_o they_o true_o be_v of_o the_o visible_a and_o then_o if_o we_o be_v full_o assure_v by_o his_o own_o external_a discovery_n that_o any_o man_n be_v not_o of_o the_o invisible_a church_n that_o man_n shall_v not_o be_v take_v to_o be_v of_o the_o visible_a and_o a_o little_a after_o therefore_o if_o a_o convert_a jew_n be_v to_o be_v take_v in_o to_o the_o church_n upon_o his_o profession_n we_o ought_v not_o to_o admit_v he_o except_o his_o profession_n seem_v to_o be_v serious_a and_o so_o sincere_a 2._o that_o the_o judgement_n to_o be_v pass_v upon_o a_o man_n that_o he_o may_v be_v receive_v into_o the_o visible_a church_n be_v not_o purum_fw-la that_o he_o be_v a_o true_a believer_n but_o modale_n that_o it_o be_v probable_a that_o he_o be_v a_o true_a believer_n pag._n 93._o 3._o that_o the_o rule_n of_o this_o judgement_n he_o say_v be_v this_o a_o serious_a professor_n of_o the_o faith_n be_v to_o be_v take_v by_o we_o for_o a_o true_a believer_n he_o mean_v as_o before_o probable_o i_o do_v much_o reverence_n and_o honour_n in_o my_o estimation_n this_o judicious_a acute_a and_o godly_a man_n and_o account_v the_o church_n of_o god_n much_o oblige_v to_o he_o under_o god_n especial_o for_o his_o learned_a and_o profitable_a pain_n in_o vindicate_v the_o right_a of_o infant_n baptism_n yet_o i_o do_v confess_v in_o sundry_a thing_n i_o can_v be_v of_o his_o judgement_n which_o i_o know_v by_o his_o 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non_fw-la ad_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la de_fw-la carcere_fw-la redierunt_fw-la in_o quem_fw-la prius_fw-la cum_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la laud_fw-la &_o gratulatione_fw-la venissent_fw-la nam_fw-la &_o si_fw-la in_o eccesiâ_fw-la videntur_fw-la esse_fw-la zizania_fw-la non_fw-la tamen_fw-la impediri_fw-la debet_fw-la aut_fw-la fides_fw-la aut_fw-la charitas_fw-la nostra_fw-la ut_fw-la quoniam_fw-la zizania_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la esse_fw-la cernimus_fw-la ipsi_fw-la de_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la recedamus_fw-la nobis_fw-la tantum_fw-la modo_fw-la laborandum_fw-la est_fw-la ut_fw-la frumentum_fw-la esse_fw-la possimus_fw-la ut_fw-la cum_fw-la caeperit_n frumentum_fw-la dominicis_fw-la condi_fw-la horreis_n pro_fw-la opere_fw-la nostro_fw-la &_o labour_v fructum_fw-la capiamus_fw-la apostolus_fw-la in_o epistola_fw-la sva_fw-la 2_o tim._n 2._o dicit_fw-la in_o domo_fw-la autem_fw-la magna_fw-la non_fw-la tantum_fw-la vasa_fw-la sunt_fw-la aurea_fw-la etc._n etc._n nos_fw-la operam_fw-la demus_fw-la &_o quantum_fw-la possumus_fw-la laboremus_fw-la ut_fw-la vas_fw-la aureum_fw-la vel_fw-la argenteum_fw-la simus_fw-la caeterum_fw-la fictilia_fw-la vasa_fw-la confringere_fw-la domino_fw-la soli_fw-la concessum_fw-la est_fw-la cvi_fw-la &_o virga_fw-la ferrea_fw-la data_fw-la est_fw-la esse_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la major_a domino_fw-la svo_fw-la servus_n nec_fw-la quisquam_fw-la sibi_fw-la quod_fw-la soli_fw-la filio_fw-la pater_fw-la tribuit_fw-la vendicare_fw-la se_fw-la putet_fw-la ut_fw-la ad_fw-la aream_fw-la ventilandam_fw-la &_o purgendam_fw-la paleam_fw-la far_o se_fw-la jam_fw-la posse_fw-la aut_fw-la à _fw-la frumento_fw-la universa_fw-la zizania_fw-la humano_fw-la judicio_fw-la segregare_fw-la superba_fw-la est_fw-la ista_fw-la obstinatio_fw-la &_o sacrilega_fw-la presumptio_fw-la quam_fw-la sibi_fw-la furor_fw-la pravus_fw-la assumit_n et_fw-la dum_fw-la dominium_fw-la sibi_fw-la semper_fw-la plusquam_fw-la mitis_fw-la justitia_fw-la deposcit_fw-la assumunt_fw-la de_fw-la ecclesiâ_fw-la pereunt_fw-la &_o dum_fw-la se_fw-la in_o solent_a extollunt_fw-la ipso_fw-la svo_fw-la humour_n caecati_fw-la veritatis_fw-la lumen_fw-la amittunt_fw-la here_o we_o see_v separation_n from_o the_o church_n because_o of_o the_o mixture_n of_o naughty_a person_n solid_o condemn_v and_o note_v with_o a_o black_a mark_n by_o this_o godly_a ancient_n the_o like_a or_o almost_o the_o same_o he_o have_v in_o the_o epistle_n immediate_o follow_v that_o former_a cite_v the_o word_n i_o will_v present_v from_o augustine_n be_v that_o contra_fw-la epistolam_fw-la parmeniami_fw-la lib._n 3._o cap._n 1._o ab_fw-la initio_fw-la cum_fw-la omnis_fw-la pia_fw-la ratio_fw-la &_o modus_fw-la ecclesiasticae_fw-la disciplinae_fw-la unitatem_fw-la spiritus_fw-la in_o vinculo_fw-la pacis_fw-la maxim_n debeat_fw-la intueri_fw-la quod_fw-la apostolus_fw-la sufferendo_fw-la inuicem_fw-la praecepit_fw-la custodire_fw-la &_o quo_fw-la non_fw-la custodito_fw-la medicinae_fw-la vindicte_fw-la non_fw-la tantum_fw-la superflua_fw-la sed_fw-la etiam_fw-la perniciosa_fw-la &_o propterea_fw-la jam_fw-la nec_fw-la medicina_fw-la esse_fw-la convincitur_fw-la illi_fw-la silij_fw-la mali_fw-la qui_fw-la non_fw-la odio_fw-la iniquitatum_fw-la alienarum_fw-la sed_fw-la study_v contentionum_fw-la suarum_fw-la infirmas_fw-la plebes_fw-la jactantiâ_fw-la svi_fw-la nominis_fw-la irretitas_fw-la vel_fw-la totas_fw-la trahere_fw-la vel_fw-la certe_fw-la dividere_fw-la affectant_fw-la superbia_fw-la tumidi_fw-la perâ—…iâ—…a_fw-la vesani_fw-la calumniis_fw-la insidiosi_fw-la seditionibus_fw-la turbulenti_fw-la ne_fw-la lucis_fw-la veritate_fw-la career_n ostendantur_fw-la umbram_fw-la rigidae_fw-la severitatis_fw-la obtendunt_fw-la &_o quae_fw-la in_o scripture_n sanctis_fw-la salva_fw-la dilectionis_fw-la sinceritate_fw-la &_o custoditâ_fw-la pacis_fw-la unitate_fw-la ad_fw-la corrigenda_fw-la fraterna_fw-la vitia_fw-la moderatiori_fw-la curatione_fw-la praecepta_fw-la sunt_fw-la ad_fw-la sacrilegium_fw-la schismatis_fw-la &_o ad_fw-la occasionem_fw-la praecisionis_fw-la usurpant_fw-la dicentes_fw-la ecce_fw-la ait_fw-la apostolus_fw-la auferte_fw-la malum_fw-la ex_fw-la vobis_fw-la ipsis_fw-la yea_o the_o very_a universal_a argument_n and_o purpose_n of_o these_o book_n against_o parmenianus_n this_o ancient_n himself_o retract_v lib._n 1._o cap._n 17._o express_v to_o be_v this_o in_o tribus_fw-la libris_fw-la contra_fw-la parmen_fw-la donatislarum_n carthaginensis_n episcopi_fw-la successorisque_fw-la donati_n questio_fw-la magna_fw-la versatur_fw-la &_o solvitur_fw-la utrum_fw-la in_o unitate_fw-la &_o eorundum_fw-la communione_fw-la sacramentorum_fw-la mali_fw-la contaminent_fw-la bonos_fw-es which_o be_v the_o very_a ground_n whereupon_o these_o our_o brethren_n build_v the_o necessity_n of_o their_o separation_n &_o quemadmodum_fw-la non_fw-la contaminent_fw-la disputatur_fw-la propter_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la toto_fw-la orbe_fw-la diffusam_fw-la cvi_fw-la calumniando_fw-la schisma_fw-la fecerunt_fw-la if_o i_o will_v bring_v here_o all_o that_o that_o ancient_n have_v against_o this_o tenet_n and_o practice_n of_o separation_n of_o these_o author_n i_o may_v transcribe_v the_o most_o part_n of_o all_o his_o writing_n against_o the_o donatist_n therefore_o i_o refer_v the_o reader_n to_o the_o writing_n themselves_o and_o beseech_v these_o our_o brethren_n yet_o in_o the_o fear_n of_o god_n and_o in_o humility_n of_o spirit_n to_o consider_v and_o ponder_v their_o way_n they_o have_v run_v into_o be_v condemn_v and_o solide_o refute_v from_o the_o word_n of_o god_n in_o these_o ancient_a schismatic_n by_o the_o godly_a and_o orthodox_n ancient_a doctor_n of_o the_o church_n in_o that_o time_n and_o now_o i_o go_v on_o to_o mr._n lockiers_n appendix_n part_n ii_o wherein_o be_v examine_v mr._n lockiers_n two_o assertion_n
concern_v church-government_n and_o what_o be_v say_v for_o confirmation_n thereof_o i_o have_v be_v i_o confess_v well_o long_o upon_o the_o examination_n of_o mr._n lockiers_n lecture_n because_o i_o find_v not_o so_o clear_a and_o distinct_a handle_n of_o that_o matter_n in_o other_o as_o i_o can_v have_v wish_v and_o i_o think_v it_o expedient_a that_o in_o regard_n he_o speak_v with_o so_o great_a a_o deal_n of_o confidence_n in_o it_o and_o other_o make_v so_o much_o noise_n of_o it_o and_o this_o newfangle_n itching-eared_a age_n be_v ready_a to_o take_v with_o every_o new_a fancy_n busk_v up_o with_o gay_a word_n and_o like_o child_n to_o be_v carry_v about_o with_o every_o wind_n of_o doctrine_n in_o this_o regard_n i_o think_v it_o expedient_a the_o more_o full_o to_o discover_v the_o weakness_n and_o unsatisfactorinesse_n of_o his_o alledgeance_n therein_o i_o shall_v not_o need_v nor_o mind_n i_o to_o insist_v so_o large_o upon_o the_o appendix_n handle_v appendix_n i_o 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d without_o and_o so_o but_o of_o the_o world_n of_o heathen_n and_o stranger_n which_o be_v absurd_a and_o admission_n in_o this_o or_o that_o particular_a congregation_n give_v he_o only_o the_o opportunity_n of_o exercise_n of_o his_o church-membership_a and_o the_o privilege_n thereof_o whereunto_o he_o have_v right_o before_o hic_fw-la &_o nunc_fw-la all_o which_o have_v be_v so_o cleary_a evince_v by_o judicious_a and_o learned_a mr._n hudson_n in_o his_o vindication_n of_o the_o essence_n and_o unity_n etc._n etc._n that_o any_o man_n that_o will_v not_o wilful_o shut_v his_o eye_n against_o the_o light_n may_v be_v full_o convince_v thereof_o so_o then_o as_o for_o admission_n of_o person_n into_o this_o or_o that_o particular_a congregation_n it_o be_v not_o a_o matter_n of_o so_o high_a essentiality_n to_o the_o state_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n and_o for_o that_o wherein_o solemn_a admission_n into_o the_o state_n
be_v good_a act_v 17._o 11._o 1_o john_n 4._o 1._o 1_o thess_n 5._o 18._o and_o the_o like_a judgement_n of_o discretion_n we_o grant_v to_o they_o in_o relation_n to_o other_o part_n of_o worship_n section_n 13_o four_o as_o to_o the_o exercise_n of_o ecclesiastic_a discipline_n and_o the_o censure_n of_o offender_n and_o particular_o excommunication_n we_o grant_v 1._o that_o private_a professor_n be_v by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n to_o exhort_v and_o reprove_v offend_v brethren_n yea_o and_o to_o admonish_v their_o governor_n if_o negligent_a and_o remiss_a colloss_n 4._o 17._o but_o this_o we_o say_v be_v a_o act_n not_o of_o authority_n and_o jurisdiction_n but_o of_o charity_n 2._o they_o be_v to_o complain_v to_o the_o church_n of_o such_o as_o be_v obstinate_a in_o their_o offence_n against_o their_o private_a reproof_n and_o admonition_n but_o neither_o be_v this_o a_o act_n of_o authority_n and_o jurisdiction_n formal_o but_o only_o preparatory_a thereunto_o it_o be_v not_o 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evangelist_n i_o know_v not_o what_o mr._n locky_a will_n bring_v to_o infringe_v this_o 2._o suppose_v that_o he_o be_v but_o once_o ordain_v a_o evangelist_n and_o elder_a both_o as_o who_o ever_o be_v a_o evangelist_n be_v also_o a_o elder_a yet_o a_o ordinary_a eldership_n may_v concur_v with_o paul_n in_o his_o ordination_n and_o the_o act_n of_o these_o ordinary_a elder_n extend_v no_o further_o but_o to_o that_o which_o be_v common_a to_o he_o with_o other_o elder_n the_o office_n of_o eldership_n that_o which_o be_v extraordinary_a flow_v from_o the_o apostle_n paul_n concurrence_n in_o the_o business_n in_o this_o mix_a action_n we_o may_v very_o well_o distinguish_v what_o be_v ordinary_a and_o what_o extraordinary_a ascribe_v that_o to_o the_o presbytery_n viz._n together_o with_o paul_n this_o to_o the_o apostle_n 3._o yet_o further_o i_o say_v with_o the_o worthy_a author_n i_o bring_v these_o thing_n from_o that_o i_o can_v see_v no_o inconsistency_n or_o absurdity_n if_o 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then_o one_o of_o the_o house_n of_o commons_o yet_o not_o then_o the_o whole_a house_n of_o commons_o 2_o that_o he_o that_o bless_v be_v not_o great_a than_o he_o that_o be_v bless_v every_o way_n but_o quatalis_fw-la in_o so_o far_o as_o he_o bless_v and_o so_o why_o may_v not_o the_o presbytery_n be_v great_a than_o a_o evangelist_n not_o simple_o and_o absolute_o but_o so_o far_o as_o they_o bless_a and_o ordain_v he_o that_o author_n give_v two_o instance_n of_o the_o like_a act._n 9_o 17._o and_o act._n 13._o 1_o 3._o or_o 2._o the_o reason_n of_o that_o consequence_n must_v be_v this_o because_o ordinary_a officer_n not_o have_v in_o themselves_o that_o extraordinar_a office_n can_v not_o give_v that_o which_o they_o have_v not_o and_o if_o this_o be_v it_o i_o will_v then_o ask_v mr._n locky_a how_o can_v people_n give_v the_o office_n of_o a_o minister_n which_o they_o have_v not_o in_o themselves_o nay_o the_o office_n of_o a_o apostle_n as_o he_o allege_v that_o the_o people_n ordain_v mathias_n a_o apostle_n whatsoever_o he_o can_v answer_v for_o that_o will_v serve_v our_o turn_n for_o the_o presbytery_n ordain_v timothy_n to_o that_o office_n which_o they_o have_v not_o in_o themselves_o the_o truth_n be_v mens_fw-la ordain_v a_o person_n to_o a_o ecclesiastic_a office_n not_o be_v by_o way_n of_o proper_a efficiency_n nor_o yet_o the_o ordainer_n act_v therein_o as_o principal_a agent_n or_o conferrer_n of_o the_o office_n that_o be_v god_n part_n by_o his_o institution_n but_o as_o moral_a instrument_n under_o god_n it_o be_v not_o ex_fw-la natura_fw-la rei_fw-la requisite_a that_o the_o ordainer_n have_v in_o themselves_o formal_o the_o office_n whereunto_o they_o ordain_v the_o person_n but_o it_o be_v sufficient_a that_o they_o have_v a_o warrant_n from_o god_n to_o intervene_v as_o instrument_n to_o apply_v the_o person_n to_o the_o office_n institute_v by_o god_n and_o i_o see_v nothing_o in_o the_o office_n of_o a_o evangelist_n that_o can_v prove_v that_o ordinary_a officer_n can_v have_v no_o warrant_n from_o god_n to_o act_v in_o this_o kind_n of_o causality_n to_o the_o apply_v of_o a_o person_n to_o it_o read_v that_o which_o the_o often_o mention_v worthy_a author_n have_v judicious_o speak_v upon_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o office_n of_o a_o evangelist_n miscell_n c._n 7._o p._n 93_o 94._o and_o it_o will_v show_v i_o say_v not_o this_o without_o reason_n section_n 5_o i_o trust_v by_o these_o thing_n it_o appear_v that_o this_o instance_n of_o ordination_n by_o a_o presbytery_n be_v not_o so_o far_o from_o this_o disputation_n as_o mr._n locky_a will_v have_v his_o reader_n believe_v but_o that_o it_o be_v a_o pattern_n of_o ordination_n in_o ordinary_a which_o some_o of_o the_o most_o judicious_a of_o his_o own_o side_n acknowledge_v with_o we_o show_v we_o also_o the_o right_a hand_n into_o which_o christ_n have_v commit_v this_o power_n to_o wit_v the_o eldership_n the_o example_n which_o he_o refer_v we_o to_o act._n 13._o 2_o 3._o we_o thank_v he_o for_o it_o as_o make_v very_o much_o against_o himself_o for_o albeit_o barnabas_n and_o paul_n the_o person_n on_o who_o the_o act_n mention_v there_o passed_z do_v not_o then_o receive_v any_o new_a ordination_n to_o a_o office_n extraordinary_a as_o mr._n locky_a in_o a_o mistake_n or_o inanimadvertency_n have_v imagine_v when_o he_o write_v this_o they_o be_v apostle_n before_o yet_o do_v they_o receive_v a_o new_a call_n unto_o a_o more_o particular_a application_n or_o as_o it_o be_v appropriation_n of_o the_o exercise_n of_o their_o office_n unto_o a_o certain_a definit_a charge_n the_o gentile_n to_o wit_n as_o paul_n himself_o declare_v it_o gal._n 2._o 7._o and_o yet_o we_o see_v evident_o that_o as_o this_o call_n be_v not_o perform_v by_o the_o body_n of_o the_o church_n so_o it_o be_v perform_v by_o some_o ordinary_a elder_n i_o say_v not_o that_o it_o be_v by_o ordinary_a elder_n only_a for_o there_o be_v prophet_n that_o have_v hand_n in_o it_o but_o i_o say_v that_o ordinary_a elder_n do_v also_o concur_v in_o it_o as_o appear_v v._o 1._o there_o be_v at_o antioch_n certain_a prophet_n and_o teacher_n i_o hope_v it_o will_v not_o be_v deny_v that_o teacher_n be_v ordinary_a elder_n section_n 6_o 2._o object_n be_v from_o 1_o tim._n 5._o 22._o and_o tit._n 1._o 5._o we_o read_v say_v he_o that_o titus_n and_o timothy_n do_v ordain_v and_o be_v exhort_v in_o a_o ordinary_a way_n to_o go_v to_o work_v by_o a_o ordinary_a spirit_n to_o wit_n not_o to_o lay_v hand_n sudden_o on_o any_o man_n nor_o to_o be_v partial_a but_o to_o weigh_v fit_a qualification_n in_o every_o one_o that_o they_o be_v blameless_a the_o husband_n of_o one_o wife_n not_o accuse_v of_o riot_n not_o self-willed_a not_o soon_o angry_a not_o give_v to_o
what_o be_v this_o but_o as_o much_o as_o if_o he_o have_v say_v in_o formal_a term_n it_o be_v true_a i_o yield_v it_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n be_v democraticall_a and_o as_o for_o that_o he_o say_v that_o see_v the_o elder_n have_v in_o their_o hand_n the_o manner_n of_o manage_v the_o judgement_n therefore_o their_o power_n be_v useful_a and_o significative_a and_o not_o useless_a and_o nothing_o from_o the_o whole_a true_o it_o be_v not_o simple_o useless_a and_o nothing_o significative_a but_o sure_o i_o be_o it_o signify_v nothing_o as_o to_o any_o power_n of_o authority_n and_o government_n a_o mr._n speaker_n or_o president_n part_n in_o a_o parliament_n a_o prolocutor_n or_o moderator_n in_o a_o assembly_n be_v not_o simple_o useless_a and_o nothing_o significative_a but_o it_o be_v just_a nothing_o significative_a as_o to_o authority_n or_o government_n section_n 4_o 2._o obj._n but_o be_v not_o this_o confusion_n for_o all_o to_o have_v a_o hand_n in_o these_o great_a thing_n this_o absurdity_n be_v most_o just_o charge_v upon_o your_o way_n of_o government_n it_o be_v confusion_n to_o speak_v so_o both_o formal_o and_o effective_o first_o i_o say_v formal_o for_o when_o as_o the_o lord_n have_v institute_v his_o visible_a church_n to_o be_v a_o body_n organical_a consist_v of_o dissimilar_v part_n some_o as_o eye_n some_z as_o foot_n some_z as_o hand_n some_o to_o rule_v and_o some_o to_o be_v rule_v some_o to_o be_v over_o other_o to_o command_v and_o govern_v in_o the_o lord_n some_o to_o obey_v in_o the_o lord_n this_o way_n make_v all_o in_o the_o church_n to_o be_v ruler_n and_o all_o to_o be_v rule_v all_o to_o command_v and_o govern_v and_o all_o to_o obey_v all_o to_o be_v eye_n and_o also_o all_o to_o be_v foot_n and_o all_o to_o be_v one_o member_n and_o so_o the_o whole_a not_o to_o be_v a_o body_n to_o wit_n organical_a and_o dissimilar_v yet_o more_o it_o have_v yet_o a_o great_a confusion_n inâ—t_o by_o attribute_v the_o 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this_o 1._o suppose_v it_o be_v true_a that_o the_o power_n of_o govern_v be_v in_o the_o whole_a body_n of_o the_o church_n fundamental_o or_o original_o yet_o it_o can_v not_o be_v say_v that_o each_o organ_n formal_o act_v the_o act_n of_o government_n for_o govern_v be_v a_o organical_a act_n in_o a_o political_a body_n thence_o it_o shall_v follow_v that_o all_o the_o organ_n be_v but_o one_o organ_n and_o the_o body_n of_o the_o church_n be_v no_o organical_a body_n but_o a_o similar_v body_n as_o if_o each_o member_n in_o the_o natural_a body_n do_v formal_o act_v see_v all_o the_o member_n be_v eye_n or_o one_o eye_n and_o so_o where_o be_v the_o body_n to_o say_v that_o however_o that_o each_o member_n act_v in_o their_o act_n of_o
govern_v yet_o each_o act_v orderly_o in_o his_o distinct_a place_n viz._n private_a christian_n in_o their_o place_n elder_n in_o their_o place_n and_o station_n yet_o this_o take_v not_o away_o the_o absurdity_n for_o see_v mr._n locky_a will_v have_v all_o and_o every_o one_o in_o the_o body_n of_o the_o church_n formal_o and_o authoritative_o to_o act_v in_o the_o act_n of_o government_n it_o follow_v that_o all_o and_o every_o one_o of_o they_o be_v formal_o governor_n and_o ruler_n the_o private_a christian_n as_o well_o as_o the_o elder_n and_o there_o be_v no_o distinction_n between_o they_o at_o all_o as_o to_o govern_v except_o of_o mere_a order_n in_o act_v certain_o if_o all_o and_o every_o member_n of_o the_o natural_a body_n do_v formal_o elicit_v the_o act_n of_o see_v albeit_o that_o part_n of_o the_o body_n which_o we_o now_o call_v the_o eye_n be_v suppose_v to_o act_v therein_o in_o some_o respect_n somewhat_o distinct_o as_o to_o order_n from_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o part_n yet_o all_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o part_n be_v as_o formal_o and_o proper_o a_o eye_n as_o it_o therefore_o as_o it_o be_v madness_n to_o say_v that_o in_o the_o natural_a body_n each_o member_n do_v formal_o act_v see_v so_o it_o be_v exceed_o absurd_a suppose_v the_o church_n to_o be_v a_o organical_a body_n and_o some_o of_o the_o organ_n whereof_o it_o be_v compose_v be_v ruler_n govern_v and_o command_v in_o the_o lord_n to_o who_o subjection_n and_o obedience_n in_o the_o lord_n be_v to_o be_v give_v by_o the_o rest_n and_o be_v as_o the_o eye_n in_o the_o natural_a body_n yet_o to_o say_v that_o all_o and_o every_o member_n in_o the_o church_n have_v a_o formal_a authoritative_a hand_n or_o influence_n in_o the_o act_n of_o govern_v 2._o see_v the_o incongruity_n of_o the_o author_n comparison_n the_o power_n say_v he_o may_v be_v fundamental_o in_o the_o whole_a viz._n body_n for_o he_o be_v speak_v in_o the_o immediate_o precede_v word_n of_o a_o organicall-body_n and_o yet_o each_o organ_n etc._n etc._n for_o instance_n the_o sensitive_a faculty_n be_v in_o all_o the_o soul_n original_o etc._n etc._n what_o incongruity_n be_v this_o to_o propound_v in_o the_o general_a of_o power_n fundamental_o in_o a_o whole_a body_n organical_a and_o then_o for_o a_o instance_n oâ—_n simile_n to_o tell_v we_o of_o power_n or_o faculty_n in_o the_o whole_a soul_n original_o be_v the_o soul_n a_o organical_a body_n but_o may_v some_o say_v the_o author_n say_v the_o sensitive_a faculty_n be_v in_o all_o the_o soul_n fundamental_o and_o radical_o and_o the_o soul_n radical_o and_o fundamental_o in_o all_o the_o body_n and_o so_o will_v by_o consequence_n say_v that_o the_o sensitive_a faculty_n be_v in_o the_o whole_a body_n fundamental_o and_o radical_o answ_n 1._o it_o be_v a_o very_a gross_a absurdity_n to_o say_v that_o the_o soul_n be_v in_o the_o whole_a body_n fundamental_o and_o radical_o or_o potential_o as_o we_o have_v show_v before_o it_o be_v formal_o and_o by_o way_n of_o information_n in_o the_o whole_a body_n 2._o it_o be_v a_o gross_a inconsequence_n the_o sensitive_a faculty_n be_v in_o all_o the_o soul_n and_o the_o soul_n be_v in_o the_o whole_a body_n therefore_o the_o sensitive_a faculty_n be_v in_o the_o whole_a body_n fundamental_o nay_o they_o be_v fundamental_o and_o radical_o in_o the_o soul_n and_o therefore_o be_v not_o fundamental_o and_o radical_o in_o the_o body_n neither_o whole_a nor_o part_n but_o be_v formal_o and_o by_o way_n of_o inhesion_n in_o their_o respective_a part_n or_o organ_n of_o the_o body_n 3._o i_o will_v fain_o know_v of_o the_o author_n what_o he_o do_v make_v in_o the_o church_n answerable_a to_o the_o soul_n in_o the_o natural_a body_n and_o so_o that_o wherein_o the_o power_n of_o govern_v be_v fundamental_o and_o radical_o as_o the_o sensitive_a faculty_n of_o the_o natural_a body_n be_v fundamental_o and_o radical_o in_o the_o soul_n be_v it_o the_o whole_a church_n as_o comprehend_v both_o people_n and_o minister_n that_o be_v the_o body_n or_o be_v it_o the_o people_n that_o be_v a_o part_n of_o the_o body_n the_o truth_n be_v mr._n locky_a be_v at_o a_o loss_n here_o with_o his_o simile_n jesus_n christ_n as_o king_n of_o the_o church_n be_v unto_o the_o church_n as_o the_o soul_n in_o the_o natural_a body_n and_o the_o power_n of_o govern_v be_v fundamental_o and_o radical_o in_o he_o and_o not_o in_o the_o body_n of_o the_o church_n and_o therefore_o 3._o to_o make_v use_n of_o the_o last_o word_n of_o his_o similitude_n for_o which_o we_o thank_v he_o as_o make_v clear_o against_o himself_o and_o for_o we_o as_o the_o sensitive_a faculty_n be_v radical_o and_o fundamental_o in_o the_o soul_n and_o act_v only_o as_o he_o say_v well_o by_o such_o part_n as_o be_v fit_a to_o act_v by_o as_o see_v by_o the_o eye_n and_o hear_v by_o the_o ear_n and_o the_o soul_n act_v all_o its_o work_n by_o such_o organ_n as_o be_v proper_a to_o each_o work_n the_o hand_n to_o work_v the_o foot_n to_o go_v so_o to_o give_v the_o apodosis_n which_o he_o have_v no_o will_n to_o express_v ecclesiastic_a organical_a power_n such_o as_o the_o sense_n be_v â—n_v the_o natural_a body_n as_o the_o power_n of_o govern_v teach_v administrate_v the_o seal_n be_v fundamental_o in_o christ_n the_o king_n of_o the_o church_n and_o act_v only_o by_o such_o part_n as_o be_v fit_a to_o act_v by_o ruler_n teacher_n and_o minister_n these_o be_v the_o proper_a organ_n of_o those_o work_n section_n 7_o the_o five_o and_o and_z last_o obj._n he_o meet_v with_o be_v this_o the_o elder_n of_o the_o church_n be_v call_v overseer_n steward_n shepherd_n father_n all_o which_o in_o their_o analogy_n hold_v forth_o a_o peculiar_a and_o sole_a power_n to_o do_v thing_n father_n govern_v alone_o so_o overseer_n etc._n etc._n as_o to_o this_o propound_v of_o this_o argument_n 1._o we_o speak_v not_o for_o a_o peculiar_a sole_a power_n to_o do_v thing_n indefinite_o in_o elder_n but_o for_o a_o sole_a power_n of_o authoritative_a act_n in_o matter_n of_o government_n and_o not_o exclude_v or_o deny_v unto_o people_n a_o private_a judgement_n of_o discretion_n to_o try_v and_o prove_v the_o act_n thereof_o by_o the_o rule_n 2._o the_o author_n leave_v out_o some_o of_o the_o name_n and_o title_n give_v to_o the_o elder_n which_o use_v to_o be_v allege_v in_o this_o argument_n beside_o the_o name_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d elder_n as_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d guide_n leader_n conductor_n governor_n heb._n 13._o 7_o 17_o 24._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 1_o tim._n 5._o 17._o rom._n 12._o 8._o 1_o thessaly_n 5._o 12._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d government_n or_o governor_n the_o abstract_n be_v put_v for_o the_o concrete_a 2_o cor._n 12._o 28._o 3._o because_o the_o author_n be_v please_v to_o propound_v the_o argument_n from_o this_o ground_n in_o the_o soft_a way_n for_o his_o own_o advantage_n we_o desire_v the_o reader_n will_v be_v please_v to_o take_v it_o thus_o these_o person_n and_o these_o only_a in_o the_o church_n have_v power_n and_o authority_n to_o govern_v and_o consequent_o be_v to_o exercise_v formal_o act_v of_o government_n to_o who_o in_o the_o scripture_n by_o the_o spirit_n of_o christ_n be_v appropriate_v such_o name_n and_o title_n which_o do_v import_v the_o power_n and_o authority_n of_o govern_v but_o to_o the_o officer_n of_o the_o church_n be_v such_o name_n appropriate_a as_o import_v power_n and_o authority_n of_o govern_v ergo_fw-la etc._n etc._n for_o the_o major_a or_o first_o proposition_n i_o think_v it_o may_v be_v clear_a to_o any_o of_o itself_o and_o if_o any_o shall_v be_v so_o wilful_a as_o to_o deny_v it_o i_o will_v ask_v he_o as_o do_v the_o learned_a author_n of_o jus_o divin_fw-fr of_o church_n government_n par._n 2._o pag._n 170._o to_o what_o end_n and_o for_o what_o reason_n be_v such_o name_n and_o denomination_n import_v power_n and_o authority_n of_o government_n appropriate_v to_o some_o person_n i._n e._n give_v to_o they_o and_o not_o to_o other_o if_o not_o for_o this_o end_n and_o reason_n to_o distinguish_v they_o that_o be_v vest_v with_o authority_n to_o govern_v in_o the_o church_n from_o other_o and_o to_o signify_v and_o hold_v forth_o a_o duty_n or_o work_n incumbent_a to_o they_o and_o not_o to_o other_o the_o assumption_n see_v evidence_v at_o length_n in_o jus_o divinum_fw-la of_o church_n government_n par._n 2._o pag._n 171_o 172_o 173._o the_o sum_n be_v this_o these_o title_n elder_a overseer_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d conductor_n governor_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d steward_n pastor_n government_n ruler_n be_v name_n which_o general_o
〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o well_o as_o the_o 〈…〉_o spirit_n of_o god_n give_v it_o to_o elder_n as_o contradiâ—…_n 〈…〉_o from_o single_a believer_n but_o also_o from_o the_o whole_a â—lack_a 〈…〉_o â—hy_a will_v the_o spirit_n of_o â—od_n give_v thiâ—_n name_n to_o eldeâ—…_n 〈…〉_o â—…guished_v from_o the_o whole_a flock_n if_o thereby_o be_v 〈…〉_o out_o whaâ—â—is_fw-fr common_a competent_a 〈…〉_o and_o aught_o to_o be_v â—one_n by_o every_o single_a 〈…〉_o locky_a reckon_v up_o the_o act_n whereby_o the_o 〈…〉_o be_v to_o 〈◊〉_d the_o flock_n that_o none_o so_o farâ—_n 〈…〉_o none_o 〈◊〉_d â—…presseth_v some_o only_a and_o 〈…〉_o â—…der_a a_o etc._n etc._n i_o will_v ask_v he_o 〈…〉_o beside_o 〈…〉_o express_v do_v he_o intend_v by_o that_o 〈◊〉_d here_o be_v understand_v exercise_n of_o discipline_n and_o censure_n 〈◊〉_d â—…ons_n go_v astray_o or_o â—one_n astray_o if_o otherwise_o they_o can_v 〈…〉_o or_o reclaim_v and_o reduce_v i_o believe_v they_o must_v by_o this_o meâ—…_n 〈…〉_o by_o these_o express_v take_v heed_n that_o none_o go_v astray_o 〈…〉_o â—nd_v be_v not_o this_o not_o only_a aâ—_n act_n of_o government_n but_o even_o of_o correâ—…ve_a jurâ—…diction_n o_o but_o may_v he_o say_v they_o be_v not_o to_o do_v this_o â—ct_n by_o themselves_o but_o to_o have_v a_o care_n that_o it_o be_v do_v by_o the_o whole_a body_n of_o the_o church_n but_o i_o pray_v how_o by_o tell_v the_o offence_n of_o 〈…〉_o the_o church_n or_o give_v joint_a vote_n as_o other_o professor_n in_o the_o 〈…〉_o it_o come_v under_o public_a cognizance_n and_o judgement_n ay_o 〈…〉_o â—his_fw-la may_v and_o aught_o to_o be_v do_v by_o the_o author_n way_n by_o any_o other_o professor_n in_o the_o church_n beside_o the_o eldeâ—_n â—nd_v so_o nothing_o be_v leave_v to_o they_o in_o regard_n of_o which_o that_o name_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d shall_v be_v more_o pecuâ—…ar_n to_o they_o than_o any_o other_o professor_n section_n 11_o the_o aâ—…_n 〈…〉_o â—…seers_n and_o 〈…〉_o â—…thers_n as_o 〈…〉_o â—…ked_v in_o 〈…〉_o â—…her_o which_o 〈…〉_o â—en_z rather_o 〈…〉_o ashiâ—…_n his_o disâ—…_n 〈…〉_o and_o sâ—lâ—_n 〈…〉_o be_v so_o ruleâ—_n 〈…〉_o but_o 〈…〉_o to_o thâ—_n châ—…_n 〈…〉_o that_o tâ—_n thâ—…_n 〈…〉_o â—…y_o oâ—_n 〈◊〉_d â—…d_n 〈…〉_o and_o 〈…〉_o but_o 〈…〉_o as_o a_o brother_n 〈…〉_o the_o 〈…〉_o or_o inâ—…_n 〈…〉_o â—…y_o to_o conâ—…_n 〈…〉_o of_o rule_v and_o goâ—…_n 〈…〉_o power_n nor_o alone_o to_o exercise_v 〈…〉_o â—…in_v conâ—…ction_n 〈…〉_o shepâ—…_n 〈…〉_o â—…cive_a that_o mr._n locky_a as_o he_o 〈…〉_o so_o he_o will_v not_o deny_v that_o thâ—_n 〈…〉_o only_o of_o the_o church_n be_v so_o call_v 〈…〉_o theâ—_n only_o â—ut_v the_o rest_n of_o the_o profâ—…_n 〈…〉_o in_o the_o power_n and_o act_n oâ—_n ruâ—…_n 〈…〉_o it_o iâ—_n 〈◊〉_d to_o give_v the_o 〈◊〉_d the_o 〈…〉_o of_o 〈◊〉_d as_o much_o and_o much_o â—ore_o oâ—_n 〈◊〉_d thing_n 〈…〉_o â—hem_fw-mi it_o be_v true_a indeed_o that_o eldeâ—_n 〈…〉_o shall_v with_o the_o rest_n of_o professor_n but_o 〈…〉_o in_o another_o thing_n than_o that_o power_n which_o be_v signify_v by_o the_o name_n of_o ruâ—…â—verâ—eers_n etc._n etc._n i._n c._n the_o power_n and_o authority_n of_o govern_v for_o be_v it_o that_o that_o they_o be_v 〈…〉_o â—ood_a in_o this_o 〈…〉_o why_o be_v they_o not_o all_o 〈…〉_o overseer_n &_o c_o if_o they_o 〈…〉_o the_o name_n the_o thing_n 〈…〉_o the_o rest_n of_o pâ—ofâ—_n 〈…〉_o â—…ession_n of_o 〈…〉_o â—eing_v of_o 〈…〉_o tell_v 〈…〉_o â—…siastick_a goverâ—…_n 〈…〉_o â—qually_o in_o the_o 〈…〉_o of_o governâ—…_n 〈…〉_o calâ—…_n 〈◊〉_d overseâ—…_n 〈…〉_o thaâ—_n 〈…〉_o goâ—_n 〈…〉_o â—at_a then_n 〈…〉_o elderâ—_n 〈…〉_o conâ—…_n the_o 〈…〉_o meet_v 〈…〉_o voteâ—_n 〈…〉_o intimate_v 〈…〉_o the_o wholâ—_n 〈…〉_o â—…te_fw-it conclude_v 〈…〉_o â—…er_o for_o which_o 〈…〉_o over_o the_o church_n 〈…〉_o as_o in_o the_o 〈…〉_o and_o as_o the_o faâ—…_n 〈…〉_o exercise_v by_o 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈…〉_o of_o see_v 〈…〉_o part_n of_o the_o 〈…〉_o â—…vernment_n 〈…〉_o ruler_n 〈…〉_o so_o in_o and_z 〈…〉_o â—…sed_a by_o any_o other_o â—art_n of_o the_o 〈…〉_o the_o authâ—r_a 〈◊〉_d the_o 〈◊〉_d of_o christâ—_n wash_v his_o 〈◊〉_d foot_n to_o illustrate_v how_o the_o elder_n organical_a power_n of_o government_n shall_v not_o prejudge_v destroy_v or_o take_v away_o the_o people_n equal_a share_n in_o a_o power_n of_o government_n which_o â—e_n call_v fundamental_a which_o yet_o be_v by_o his_o way_n as_o 〈…〉_o of_o government_n as_o any_o ruler_n in_o the_o world_n haâ—…_n 〈…〉_o act_v in_o the_o exercise_n of_o government_n when_o i_o 〈…〉_o confess_v i_o be_v amaze_v and_o can_v scarce_o believe_v my_o own_o eye_n 〈◊〉_d that_o such_o a_o thing_n can_v be_v write_v by_o a_o understanding_n 〈◊〉_d advert_v to_o what_o he_o do_v write_v as_o wâ—ste_v in_o chriâ—…_n 〈…〉_o that_o as_o relate_v â—o_o the_o purpose_n he_o have_v 〈…〉_o before_o viz._n that_o elder_n organical_a power_n of_o government_n â—ould_v not_o take_v away_o the_o people_n equal_a share_n of_o fundâ—…_n 〈◊〉_d aâ—_n he_o call_v it_o nor_o the_o exercise_n thereof_o 〈…〉_o and_o his_o disciplâ—…_n brethren_n or_o a_o brotherhood_n 〈…〉_o of_o mutual_a and_o equal_a power_n fundamental_a of_o government_n mr._n locky_a i_o know_v will_v abhor_v a_o thought_n of_o this_o hâ—_n christ_n say_v himself_o be_v thâ—…_n sole_a ruler_n viz._n sovereign_a and_o 〈◊〉_d and_o lawgiver_n or_o waâ—_n christ_n here_o condescend_v to_o 〈…〉_o of_o government_n together_o with_o his_o disciple_n neither_o 〈…〉_o he_o â—ay_n wash_v of_o foot_n be_v a_o act_n very_a 〈◊〉_d from_o 〈◊〉_d or_o be_v hâ—_n by_o abase_v himself_o to_o wash_v his_o disciple_n foot_n 〈◊〉_d he_o â—ow_o they_o be_v to_o bâ—_n officer_n of_o his_o church_n shall_v 〈◊〉_d the_o act_n of_o government_n in_o the_o church_n viz._n that_o they_o shall_v â—n_v the_o exercise_n thereof_o take_v in_o joint_o with_o they_o the_o whoâ—…â—…ople_n sure_o we_o find_v no_o intimation_n of_o such_o a_o intention_n by_o 〈…〉_o in_o the_o text_n and_o the_o thing_n itself_o in_o the_o matter_n 〈…〉_o of_o 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numerous_a the_o christian_n in_o rome_n be_v become_v ere_o that_o time_n add_v to_o these_o thing_n that_o these_o same_o author_n cent._n 3._o c._n 7._o p._n 151._o say_v express_o that_o jus_o tractandi_fw-la de_fw-la excommunicandis_fw-la aut_fw-la recipiendis_fw-la publicae_fw-la lapsis_fw-la penes_fw-la seniores_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la erat_fw-la and_o cite_v tertul._n apolog._n for_o it_o read_v also_o c._n 6._o ejusdem_fw-la cent._n pag._n 129_o l._n 30._o