and easie absolution Therefore though a Priest hath power to denie the Sacrament upon good grounds yet not to excommunicate from all society in the Church without the authority of his superiour nor was it wont that one should be received again to the Sacrament without the hand of the Superiour and Clergy was laied upon his head Cyp. l. 3. Ep. 16. in token of reconcilement So Bishops were wont to give account to Synods of their excommunicating men Conc. Nic. Can. 5. Concil Sardcens Can. 14. And for absolution of Schismaticks it is true the people have been called together to be satisfied in their repentance not to confirm the sentence but to satisfie their conscience in the absolution and to prevent schisms afterward they observing how the party was stricken with fear and recovered with shame but this was no proofe of a Lay Presbytery Mathe. What was then the Presbytery mentioned by St Paul Phila. It is but once mentioned in all the New Testament as in the 1 of Tim. 4.14 which I have proved to be only spirituall men as Pastours and Teachers called Elders as at Jerusalem fifteen years after Christs ascension were Apostles and Elders Acts 15. So at Antioch were Prophets and Teachers as Barnabas Simeon Lucius Manahen Saul and Mark and others Acts 13. which the Apostles placed in Cities where they had planted the Gospell This was done for the defence of beleevers against seducers that crept into houses and subverted many by teaching things that they ought not for filthy lucres sake 2 Tim. 3. And that those ruling Elders were Lay Judges that Paul speaks of it plainly appeareth to the contrary for the Apostle there speaks of maintenance allowed out of the Church stock which I never heard or read was given to any Lay ruler and certainly if St Paul was loath to have the Church burdened with a widow 1 Tim. 5. so long as her own kindred could maintain her would lesse put the charge of a Lay Judge upon it The Governors in the Apostles times were moderators of dissentions 1 Cor. 6.4 between party and party by their gifts of wisedome discretion and judgement by-which decision of controversies the slander of the Gospell might be prevented in their going to law before Magistrates who were Infidels 1 Cor. 6.1 But beside these I find no Lay rulers to meddle in Ecclesiasticall affairs 1 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 2. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 I mean common people called Lay from the Greek word that signifieth people or secular men but only Presbyters i. Priests in a short speaking Beside we find that God hath alwaies governed his Church by Regall Propheticall or Sacerdotall jurisdiction therefore Christ being all these in himselfe governeth his Church so by Magistrates Teachers and Pastors Now the Lay Elder is neither of these for they are no Prophets because they have no charge of his word nor have they Priestly power in regard of sins and Sacraments as Jam. 5.14 15. If any be sick let him send for the Elders of the Church who shall pray and annoint him with oile and his sins shall be forgiven him These Elders were not Lay men but such to whom was committed the gift of healing and absolution Nor have they the Regall power for then the Magistrate must be subject to them not they to him or if they had it can last no longer than when the Magistrate is a Christian So that I see not how Lay Elders should be governors of the Church but they must be Magistrates or Ministers Mathe. If there be no Christian Magistrates must then the Ministers take all the power of government Phila. They may do as was done in the Primitive times when the Church was not protected by the civill sword but rather persecuted Mathe. But what if they grow Hereticks or prove pernicious Phila. Then the whole may avoid the unsound for in such cases the people have power of desertion but not of coercion they may avoid or decline but not punish their Pastors as John 10. my sheep know my voice but strangers they will not follow So Rom. 16. mark them that cause divisions and avoid them for no doubt where the publike State is not Christian Cyp. l. 10. Ep. 4 the people have power to chuse a good Pastor and refuse a bad one Mathe. What Presbytery is that which the ancient Fathers do so often speak of in their writings Phila. First you must know that the Scriptures speak of three degrees in the Church and so do the Catholike Fathers viz. of Deacons Elders or Presbyters and Bishops and when they speak of a Presbytery they mean a company consisting of these as if you read them you shall find in Ignatius Jerom in Tit. 1. Amb. in 1 Tim. 5. Ignat. ad Trallianos Magnes Philad Smyrn Antioch Aug. de civit dei l. 20. c. 9. in Psal 106. Isid Originum lib. 7. Tertul. in Apolog. In his tract of flight in the time of persecution And Aug. speaking of seats of Church Governors shewes plainly that Lay men had not judgement seats in the Church for who governed the Church he tels us in Psal 106. they that sate at the stern as himselfe did Mathe. How came Bishops to be above the Presbyters Phila. Christ made a difference in the degrees of Apostles and disciples so did the Apostles of Bishops and Presbyters for though at first both the Bishop Presbyter and Deacon were all included in the Apostles yet as they found reason to lead them to make Deacons Acts 6.3 and also Presbyters in severall places to keep up the Gospel which they had planted as there were Presbyters at Ephesus Acts 20. and also among the converted Jewes 1 Pet. 5. where St Peter calleth himselfe a fellow Presbyter i. in care and pains not in office and degree 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 so the equality of Presbyters breeding faction among the people they were forced to commit the care of the Church planted to some choice person who might oversee the flock as Pastor of the place and the rest to be his helpers in dispersing the word and advising in the Church government and to these were committed ordination and imposition of hands and the keies not to the Presbyters which the Fathers call Episcopall power This may be seen by Paul's Epistles to Timothy and Titus 1 Tim. 1.2 So c. 5.22 Tit. 1.5 and how they kept the keies to themselves may be collected from the 2 Thes 3. where he bids the Presbyters only note him by a letter that would not obey his words but the use or sparing of the rod he keeps to himselfe 1 Cor. 4. 2 Cor. 12.13 and delivers it to those no doubt whom he made overseers or Bishops like themselves who were also called Bishops Cyp. l. 3. Ep. 9. Amb. in Eph. 4. Epiph. cont Heres lib. 1. haer 27. Hier. in Jac. Theod. in Phil. cap. 1. and exercised the office of Bishops or
I pray what be your Levellers Phila. They seem to me to be like those Hereticks of old In the third century of years after Christ called Apostolici in that affected wilfull povertie These seem to do so too by their digging in commons and receiving mens charitie But their new name intimates as if they would levell mens estates to make an equality because people did in the Apostles daies for the better propagation of the Gospell and sustentation of the Gospell-professors bring their wealth and made distribution to every ones need They seem now poor enough but what they may do when they are a fit number I know not but I am sure the way they take is not warrantable nor savours of any true knowledge of Gods providence or of mans prudence Mathe. Have all these wicked Hereticks escaped without any signe of Gods displeasure shewed upon them Phila. No for as he hath suffered many of them to fall into foule sins so upon them have fallen fearfull punishments As for foule sins many of them are caught in the birdlime of lust Simon Magus had one Helena Apelles Philumena Montanus had Maximilla Donatus had Lucilia Elpidius had Agape Priscilianus had Galla the Nicolaitans had wives in common The Popes have been as bad Sergius had Marozia Gregory the seventh had Matildis Alexander the sixt had Lucretia Leo the tenth had Magdalena Paul the third had Constantia and Pope Joan it seems had a Paramour The Anabaptists most unclean because they maintain unlawfull divorces and Polygamie and adulterie under a colour of spirituall marriage by which they are become all one body But I will say no more there is enough discovery made of them in divers books But Gods judgements have followed Hereticks Simon Magus would needs flie and was killed by a fall Hayn compend Eccles hist l. 1. Cerinthus with the fall of an house at a bath Elymas the Sorcerer was strook blind Priscilla and Maximilla hanged themselves Manes was flead alive Arrius voided his guts at a privie Nestorius his tongue rotted off And our late Sectaries have not all escaped for as these beyond the seas came to lamentable ends by wars and other executions of justice Sleid. comment lib. 10. as you may read in Sleidan's Comment in Pontanus and others so even these among us have been marked out by Gods judgements Puntan Cat. Heret Gastius de Anab. exorb Hâ—res Chron. p. 456. 379. 679. 765. 766. For as Servetus was condemned at Geneva and Phiser suffered at Muthus Munerus rackt and headed by the Duke of Saxony John of Leiden and Chipperdolling executed and their bodies hung up in iron cages so you may read in our Chronicles of some burned others hanged of the Brownists for seditious books as Barrow Greenwood Studley and Billet and Penry the author of Mart. Marp Bul. adv Anab. Disco of Brow Brow Donat. proph schisme You may read more of them then I am willing to write in many good authors cited in the margent Some women Antinomians have brought forth fearfull monsters even thirty at one birth and another woman of one female with horns and clawes See Mr Wels his book of Antinomians And for the Antisabbatarians one makes mention of some that laboring on the Lords day have had their corn and houses burnt and of one great man that used to hunt upon that day had his Lady delivered of a child that had an head like an hound which might teach people to take heed that their rest upon the Lords day be not vain and fruitlesse but sequestring themselves from worldly businesse they do on that day give themselves to holy exercises Mathe. But I find some have troubled the Church about ceremonies and forms of government as much as these by their erroneous opinions as those which some call Prelaticall and others called Presbyterians Phil. I cannot deny but that the Prelaticall or Canonicall Ministers have been of late about 1635. more strict than formerly about Church-order and Ceremonies And the Presbyterian hath been more extream then needed against the Prelatical ministrie and Episcopall government since both of them agree in divine truths God hath given them both a right to his house but they quarrell who should have the upper or who the lower rooms and both contend which of them should keep the keies The Lord make them of one heart that the people may be freed of those distractions in which they are bred by their disagreements It were happy if all would take the counsell of Irenaeus to Victor Bishop of Rome who did rashly excommunicate the Eastern Churches for dissenting from his judgement in fasting and celebrating of Easter For he told him they did all agree in one faith and therefore it was more fit for him to study peace unitie and love This controversie was afterward setled by the generall Councill of Nice that Easter being universally kept should also be uniformly kept by all Churches not on the fourteenth of Nisan but on the Lords day So it had been more happy for the Church if these men had suppressed passion and put on patience till the State had called a nationall Councill to have determined those controversies lately risen Mathe. I pray what was the main quarrell about Phila. About superintendency Liturgie and ceremonie By superintendency I mean Episcopacy which word in English signifies the office of Bishops which word Bishop was made so odious by the envious learned to the ignorant Lay-people about 1641. that a Bishop was thought as bad as the Pope either for Idolatry or superstition and so were decried under the colour of a Reformation by the peoples exclamations and their government deposed before any other was setled which hath bred divisions and libertinisme ever since And I conceive if envy had not overswaied equitie faults might have been corrected and yet the dignitie of the office have been preserved which hath been venerable in all antiquitie Mathe. But we find them of no more authority nor antiquity then Presbyters Phila. I suppose you mean not Lay Elders for they were not used till of late years not so much as in Ecclesiasticall censures much lesse in ordination which Calvin himselfe never allowed And if you mean Priestly Elders it will not be found that ordination was committed to them alone without a Bishop for that place 1 Tim. 4.14 which saith that Timothy had the hands of the Presbyterie laied upon him Sedulius Hieron surely that was not ordination * Primasius ad 1 Tim. cap. 4. Oecumen in cap. 9. in 1 Tim. cap. 4. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 of him to be a Presbyter but of the Prelacie to make him a Bishop or else the laying on of St Paul hands was but imposition not ordination for he was not surely ordained twice 2 Tim. 1.6 or else both was but imposition of hands by blessing him Indeed the words in Greek are both the same but ordination is expressed by another word Acts 14.23
and when they had ordained them Elders in every Church and had praied with fasting 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 signifieth a divine institution not holding up of hands in a choice of any Vid. Act. 10 41 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 they commended them to the Lord Or if you will say that Timothies ordination though spoken of twice yet it only shewes that St Paul and the Presbyterie were associate in the work you will hardly find Calvin so to interpret 1 Tim. 4.14 in his Institutions But be it so * Chryl hom 13. in 1 ad Tim. cap. 4. that Presbyterie was a companie of Elders whereas Calvin saith they were Bishops yet you cannot by that prove that preaching Elders were of the same antiquitie with the Apostles except you take the Apostles themselves only for such Elders nor yet that preaching Elders saving the Apostles were of equall authoritie with Bishops Mathe. I pray Sir make that forth to me that Elders or Presbyters were not of equall antiquity and dignity with Bishops Phila. You are to observe that both the Office of Bishop and Elders were both at first included in the Apostles only as 1 Pet. 5.1 the Apostle Peter there cals himselfe a co-Elder while he exhorteth Elders yet that proveth not that Peter was only an Elder 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 no more then it proveth that those Elders to whom he then wrote were all Apostles for none durst join themselves to the Apostles in commission Acts 5.13 till they had ordained and appointed them and therefore no doubt those that ministred had their approbation and appointment first from them except they had an immediate call from God as Paul had from heaven and Ananias in a vision to go and baptize Paul But their ordinary way was to give commission by laying on of hands and ordination Therefore we read Acts 6.3 that they appointed the seven elected Deacons and laied their hands upon them though they had the Holie Ghost before that Acts 6.3 yet had no commission to officiate that dutie till then Acts 6.6 So also Barnabas and Saul was separated by command from the Holie Ghost to the particular work to which God had appointed them and they were separated by the imposition of hands fasting and praier and to that work approved So we find that Barnabas and Saul ordain Elders in every Citie at Lystra Iconium and Antioch Acts 14.22 23. till which time we read not of the word Elders nor of ordination which power of ordination so far as I see was ever kept in the hands of the Apostles and such whom they made superintendents over many Churches So Paul having made Titus superintendent or Bishop over Creet appointed him to ordain Elders in every Citie Calvin Institu lib. 4. cap. 3. which power I find not given to every inferiour Presbyter nor yet to many of them associated without a superintendent I know some may say that those that sent Barnabas and Saul were not Apostles I answer though none of the twelve yet of the second order namely Apostolicall Prophets such as are spoken of Eph. 4.11 not by foretelling things to come but by expounding the divine oracles Ambrose in 1 Cor 12. who in that time were no lesse than Bishops for we read not of any of the 72 Disciples nor of any other meer Presbyters that ever took upon them imposition of hands and therefore when Philip had converted some people at Samaria the Apostles sent Peter and John to lay their hands on them Acts 8. by which they received the Holie Ghost by an holie consignation Eph. 1.13 not for miraculous operation Mathe. What other difference is there between Bishop and Presbyter Phila. As they were more ancient that by them Presbyters might be ordained so they were of more dignitie and authoritie then any meer Presbyters This dignitie and authoritie the Apostles kept to themselves a while First because as yet the Church was not setled Secondlie because at first few or none were found fit for that office But at last lest equalitie and paritie should breed schisme they set up superintendents or Bishops Hieron in Tit. c. 1. Ep. ad Evagri who did excell other Presbyters both in conferring rewards and also in censuring manners as in Tit. 1.5 he had power to ordain So they had a jurisdiction coactive and corrective transmitted to them from the Apostles as Timothy is bid by St Paul to charge some that they preach at Ephesus no other but sound doctrin 1 Tim. 1.3 and to restrain prophane and vain bablings 2 Tim. 2.16 And Titus is also authorized by S. Paul to put some to silence Tit. 1.11 as well as to rebuke others v. 10. yea to excommunicate some Tit. 3.10 Hieron advers Luciferi By this means faction was prevented which else likelie might have made in time as many schismaticks as Priests some people crying up Paul others Apollos others Cephas 1 Cor. 1.12 The Apostles therefore set up Bishops in divers Cities who were succeeded by others in place and authoritie still above Presbyters Aug. cont Manich. Epi. c. 4. to 6. which succession hath kept people still in the lap of the Church whose prosperity hath much depended upon their power and dignitie And that there hath been a continued succession of them the Ecclesiasticall histories sufficientlie declare And that they have been alwaies in higher dignitie then Presbyters must needs be allowed or else the Apostles left the Church in unwarrantable paritie contrary to Christs example who gave the twelve Apostles an higher title then the 72 Disciples Luke 10. and so did they set others above Presbyters And these we find sometimes called Apostles i. of the second order Gal. 1.19 So James the Lords brother was called an Apostle yet he was none of the twelve and also many other called so 1 Cor. 15.7 which were not of the twelve neither This no doubt was in regard of their precedencie as Epaphroditus was called the messenger or Apostle of the Philippians Phil 2.25 Theod. in 1 Tim. 3. and what is that saith Theodoret but their Bishop namely of that Church The twelve are alwaies in Scripture called the Apostles of Jesus Christ because they had from him their immediate divine mission but others that had only Apostolike ordination they are only called Apostles or Apostles i. Bishops of such Churches as Gal. 1.19 and 2 Cor. 8.23 And this appears further that such Apostles were Bishops because Christ commends the Angell of the Church of Ephesus for trying those that said they were Apostles but were not These that were tried could be none of the twelve for they were all known to that Angell if they were at that time living but it is most like to be some that like Diotrephes sought the preheminence of an Apostolicall Bishop which was above the Presbyters in many things As 1. In imposition of hands or confirmation 2. In ordination 3. In superioritie of
Constantinople and he was chosen by the full consent of the Clergy and Laietie yet none of them laied hands on him but Theophilus Archbishop of Alexandria Socrat. lib. â— cap. 12. nor doth the fourteenth of the Acts from the Greek word prove any such thing for the word though by some strained will not properly signifie the holding up of hands in election but rather an institution of one to an office or if it did yet is there no mention made in that Chapter of such gesture used by any except Paul and Barnabas Acts 14.23 nor doth that place of Timothy 1 Tim. 4.14 which only text nameth Presbyterie in the New Testament where it is said Timothy had the hands of the Presbyterie laied upon him prove any such association of Presbyters and Lay-men with the Apostle For first 2 Tim. 1.6 if Timothy were at that time made an Elder or Bishop sure it was not by Lay-Elders for the lesse cannot blesse the greater If preaching Elders shall be understood in the word Presbyterie then Presbyters ordained Presbyters or Bishops which we cannot find exemplified in the new Testament What then was the Presbyterie here Chrysostome tels us they were not Elders Chrys hom 13. in 1. Tim. 4. Hieron in 1 Tim. 4. but Bishops And for the word Presbyterie Jerome expounds it for the office that Timothy was called to viz. of a Bishop So doth Primasius and Haymo and Lyra say that Presbyterium is the dignity of an Elder or Bishop yea Calvin saith as much upon that place of Timothy Theodor. in 1 Tim. Theoph. in 1 Tim. Calv. Instit l. 4. c. 3. S. 16. yea Ambrose Theodoret and Theophylact before him and if so the sense must be thus as Calvin gives it Stir up the gift of God that is in thee by laying on of my hands not of others as if he had said look that the grace be not in vain which thou receivedst by imposition of hands when I created thee an Elder and so confesseth that he understandeth not 1 Tim. 4.14 to intend by Presbyterie the Colledge of Presbyters but only the ordering of Timothy to become an Elder Indeed that the Presbyterie laied hands on Timothy together with St Paul no place doth evidently shew and in that very place 1 Tim. 4.14 the word hath you see a divers signification but that St Paul himselfe alone did it that place of 2 Tim. 1.6 clearly sheweth whose hands alone were sufficient without the hands of the others to give one a degree above themselves namely to make Timothy an Evangelist to accompany Paul in his travelling or to make him a Bishop which was of no effect and of as little to make him an Elder or Presbyter because the lesse must be blessed of the greater namely such as had the grace of imposition of hands committed to them which Presbyters had not Therefore the Presbyterie spoken of 1 Tim. 4.14 if a number of men yet must be such as had Apostolike grace Theodor. in 1 Tim. 4. as saith Theodoret and if they had Apostolike grace yet could they not convey it without the Apostles hands for though God bestowed the spirit upon others as well as upon them as on the 70 disciples Aug. in Epist Joh. tract 2. and the rest Acts 1.15 as St Aug. witnesseth yet we read not any of them gave the Holy Ghost by laying on of hands but the Apostles Therefore we read of the seven Deacons were men full of the Holy Ghost before they were chosen Acts â— 3 and yet after that the Apostles had laied hands on them and that Philip preached and baptized at Samaria Chrys hom 18. in cap. 8. yet he laied hands on none of them but they received the Holy Ghost afterward by Peter and John Acts 8.15 because this was peculiar to the Apostles Mathe. Why did the Apostles use imposition of hands in their instituting Pastours and Teachers in the Church being it was an old ceremony among the Jewes Phil. It was an old ceremony indeed used in making praiers for any As Jacob did Gen. 48. in blessing the children of Joseph So Moses on Ioshua Num. 27. So on the heads of their sacrifices Levit. 13.4 So in accusation the Elders laid their hands upon Susanna And Christ did not reject it Mark 10. he laied his hands on children when he blessed them and Mark 6. on the sick when he cured them Now the Apostle Mark 16. receiving it from their masters example and warrant use the same ceremony in their dispensations as Paul on the father of Publius Acts 28. Ananias on Paul that he might receive sight Acts 9. So when the seven were chosen Acts 6. and Paul and Barnabas separated Acts 13. they had the hands of the Prophets laid on them So Paul on the Disciples that had not experience of the Holy Ghost Acts 19. laied his hands and made them Ministers of Ephesus Beza in Annot. act cap. 19. whereas yet were no godly assemblies to elect them nor Presbytery to join with him Mathe. What was the generall rule for elections and ordinations in the Apostles time Phila. We find three sorts 1. By the spirit 2. By lots 3. By voices Matthias was chosen by lot Acts 1. Paul and Barnabas by the spirit speaking by himselfe immediatly Acts 13. Timothy was designed by the spirit speaking in the Prophets who after received imposition of hands from St Paul By voices and suffrages I find some propounded Acts 6. but not ordained save by the Apostles and such to whom they gave Apostolike power as to Timothy and Titus Mathe. What need was there then of imposition of hands if chosen by the spirit or by lot guided by the spirit Phila. As a testimony that they were so ordained as the spirit had appointed So Barnabas and Saul Acts 13. with fasting and prayer were separated to convert the Gentiles not upon their own heads but by a solemn way they were commended to the grace of God for prospering the work For imposition of hands is not alwaies taken for ordination to be an Elder but also for a commending of a man by praier to the work propounded and so the Prophets might well join with St Paul in praier over Timothy 1 Tim. 4.14 Mathe. But we find others joined with the Apostles in deciding doubts of faith as Acts 15.6 So in delivering some up to Satan 1 Cor. 5. Phila. For the doubts in a point of faith of that concernment the Apostles no doubt were content that the professors in Jerusalem should come together but for the determination we find none medling in that Councill but Peter by way of advice ver 7. and James the Bishop of Jerusalem giving the definitive sentence ver 19. my sentence is that you trouble not the Gentiles about circumcision c. And for delivering up to Satan you may see it was done by decree of St Paul upon the incestuous person 1 Cor 5. I have determined as if present
to deliver him to Satan Amb. in 1 Tim. cap. 1. As for their assembling together at his command it was that the whole Church might see and fear that upon reading the sentence the spirit of Paul being present by the power of the Lord Jesus Satan should plainly smite him with some evill Chry. in 1 Cor. 5 hom 15. as once Peter did Ananias dead Acts 5. and Paul Elymas the sorcerer Acts 13. From this it is St Paul saith 2 Cor. 10. we have in a readinesse to revenge all disobedience and is called his rod 2 Cor. 13.2 1 Cor. 4. which he will not spare This I confesse was excommunication and somewhat more for many were excommunicated and yet not delivered to Satans power 2 Cor. 13.10 which was a sharp execution of that power the Lord had given him Thus we see the Apostles kept this power and by their command only it was executed Christ gave this power of the keies only to the Apostles John 20. and Paul being an Apostle used them without the authority of Presbyters Mathe. But whether doth the power still continue and in whom Phila. Some gifts were appointed to the Apostles persons As 1. Their calling by Christs own mouth 2. Their infallibility in truth 3. The visible assistance of Gods spirit 4. To speak extempore in divers tongues 5. To work miracles 6. To bestow the gifts of Holy Ghost upon others all which was given to them to beget and convert and confirm Christians at first But this milk is not necessary alwaies to be continued when the Church is grown to a ripe age for the Scriptures are afterward sufficient to make us perfect to every good work 1 Tim. and the miracles then done are a full confirmation of their truth But yet you must know that the authority of their calling liveth yet in their successors and to teach administer Sacraments to bind and loose sins to impose hands for the ordaining Pastours and Elders are not ceased nor can be wanting so long as there is a Church for these beget faith without which there is no Church Therefore their successors are stewards of the mysteries of Christ and are warned to take care of Christs flock Acts 20. and of this few doubt but the power of the keies troubles them to whom they are committed that is excommunication and absolution So others quarrell about ordination and these are the well-wishers to Lay-Eldership which they would have joined in this work with Apostles and Bishops but they find no warrant for it I know they bring commonly two or three places of Scripture for Presbyterie as the hands of the Presbyterie 1 Tim. 4.14 which I have shewed were the hands of Bishops and preaching Elders at least not of Lay Elders So they say Christ bids a man tell the Church Mat. 18. which if a man will not hear he is to be accounted as an heathen Now by this word Church they would bring in all the Lay Elders Chrys hom 61. in Mat. 18. Beza annot in Mat. 18. saith the chiefe implieth the whole But surely there is understood the spirituall Presidents and Governors so there we read of no Lay Presbyterie But they say that in the 1 Tim. 5. Paul tels us of ruling Elders and thereforre there were some Elders beside those that laboured in the word and doctrine as Rom. 12. he that ruleth let him do it with diligence but it is plain they are not distinct offices Beza annot in 1 Tim. 4. Chrys hom 15. in 1. Tim. 5. Hieron in 1 Tim. cap. 5. but sometime pertaining both to the Deacon or Preaching Elder who also ruled the Church and in regard of their good government deserved double honour of reverence and allowance but especially for laboring in preaching the Gospell because they cannot so well provide things needfull for themselves But for Lay Judges I never heard they were to be maintained by the Church stock of which maintenance the Apostle in 1 Tim. 5. speaketh and therefore here can be understood no Lay Presbyterie but rather such as did govern the Churches stocks as the Deacons did or ministers which either did both Beza annot in 1 Pet. cap. 5. or only laboured in the word for the name Elder compriseth sometimes all those that have any Ecclesiasticall function And St Chrysostome on 1 Cor. 1.17 on these words Chrys in 1 Cor. 1.17 Christ sent me not to baptize but to preach saith that few were able to preach but many to give baptisme therefore the inferiour sort of ministers baptized and the superiour in wisedome Evangelized They that performed the first well were counted worthy of double honour for their right ordering the Church but especially such as labored in the word and doctrine so that still we find no ruling for Lay Elders but rather the dutie and pains of their Pastors and Teachers 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the one by ruling the flock well in his Church and charge whereof he is president by doctrine administration and example 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the other for travelling with great pains of mind and body to dispense the Gospell and confirm Christians by travell and visiting in which sense Paul saith 1 Cor. 15. he laboured more then all the Apostles Yet I speak not this in derogation to Lay-men which are holy grave and wise but only that they had no place in ordination or excommunication yea I beleeve good use might be made of them for moderation of quarrels and strifes and examinations as 1 Cor. 6.4 and to end matters peaceably between Christians but not to censure Ecclesiastically for that belongs to the ministers nor to punish by the civill law for that belongs to the Magistrate The keies were given of Christ to his Apostles and of them to their successors which were spirituall pastors so that every godly minister hath power to put by an unworthy receiver from the Lords Table as well as to admit one that is worthy Amb. de poenit lib. 1. c. 2. without the assistance of Lay Eldership to whom neither power of preaching the Word nor administring the Sacraments Chrys de sacer lib. 3. was ever committed For when Christ said to Peter Aug. 5. Tract in Joh. I will give thee the keies of the Kingdome of heaven he meant and intended it to all the ministers of the Church as appeareth in giving the rest of the Apostles the same power after his resurrection Therefore saith Ambrose Amb. de dignita sacer c. 6. all we that are Priests received the keies in blessed Peter but he saith not Lay-men did also receive them Mathe. This may make Ministers take too much upon them Phila. Not if they be either wise and godly Cypr. l. 1. Ep. 2. for they are to use this power with moderation and great discretion for much harm may be done by rash suspension from the Sacrament or excommunication from Christian societie nor lesse harm by facile
were truly dead then their soule upon departure from the body had a subsisting or else were dissolved into nothing and if dissolved into nothing then they were newly created rather then reunited and so cannot properly be said to be raised but the soule was re-created and re-infused and so being a new something brought out of nothing into which it was dissolved we shall doubt whether they had their own souls again And again if the soul were dissolved at death in vain did Christ warn us not to feare them that kill the body or him that can damn the soul For what damnum or damage can there be to him that after death hath no soul to feel either sorrow of losse or pain of sense Mathe. I pray Sir what think you of the soul and how come we by it and then let me know what principles are left to lead it to felicity Phila. You propound too fast one of these three is enough at once and especially the first to know what the soul is since Christ saith it hath been with us ever since we were born and yet we know not what it is But I suppose he meaneth that we know it not by any perfect knowledge we have of the essence thereof for it is hard to know that by which we know any thing yet we may know it by its operation for no doubt it is an immateriall or spiritual substance which gives man next to God life sense motion and understanding How we came by this soule at first in our first parents must be understood from God who gives beginning to all things but how we have them since may be a question for though he made our first parents by creation yet he makes us mediately by generation of our parents but whether soule and body is a question too and yet we say one man begets another and if the whole man then body and soule but if the body only then is but halfe the man begotten by the parents Some think all souls were at first created Plato and are reserved as in a treasury I know not where and infused at mans generation or when the body is apt to receive them but then it is not the form of man nor doth work in the forming of mans body from his conception if it be not infused till the body be apt for it which they count forty daies after the conception Others Hilary that God creates it of nothing ex tempore upon every occasion of the females conception but then say others God is put to a new creation every day Zanchius Some say that God gives it essence and substance but the parents give it a beginning of being and existence Many or most of the Fathers did judge that it was created of God immediatly and infused yet Saint Augustine makes a stand at it Aug. in epist act Hieron 28. de orig peccato because he finds not how originall sin can be conveied if the soul come not by the parents to the child by propagation for if the body come only from them meer matter is not capable of sin neither is the body alone a person and so no person of man is tainted with originall sin in conception as Psal 51. In sin my mother conceived not my body only but me and if God make the soule of nothing and then infuseth it then it being of it selfe pure by his creation how can it stand with Gods justice to pour it into a tainted body and if the body as meer matter cannot be sinfull nor the soule neither being newly set out of Gods hand then meer uniting cannot make them so and then we shall find no originall sin at all These opinions being not plainly concluded by the Scripture nor the * Yet in Saint Hieromes time the Western Church was much inclined this way Church therefore as we are to hold that which Scripture reason or experience holdeth forth to us most evidently so where such evidence is not we are to hold that which is most probable which if we will not do I see no reason but we must be content without reason Now the Scriptures do not plainly evidence that the soule is immediately created of God and so infused but rather offers it as a thing not altogether from God nor altogether from man as you may see by divers phrases in Scripture as in Gen. 1.27 Be fruitfull and multiply and fill the earth viz. that is with mankind and persons of men as other creatures were to do ver 22. of that Chapter or else Gods word is not so effectuall in man the more excellent creature as it is in the beasts all which he intended by his resting from creating that they should ever persist of themselves and multiply their kinds Of which God gave the first instance when he framed Eve the first woman out of the first man and yet is not said to breath into her as into Adam a breath of life silently arguing that by his power concurring her whole substance was taken from Adam upon whom he had first and originally breathed * Spiraculum animarum the breath of souls as the originall text reads it yet other texts shew us also that God hath an especiall hand in it as Job 10.8 10. and Psal 139.13 15. Thy hands have made me Thou hast covered me in my mothers womb And Jeremy brings in God asserting that he formed him in the womb and Zach. 12.1 It is said God formeth the spirit of a man within him he doth not say creates it of nothing but he brings that into act which was there in the seed Arist but potentially as Aristotle held not much amisse though he leaves it doubtfull whether it be mortall or immortall so that we see both God and man hath an hand in the generation of the whole man together Mathe. I pray make that a little more plain Phila. The Philosophers say that the Sun and man begets man so we may say God and man do propagate mans soule God so far as to make it immortall and man so far as to make it sinfull not that there is any separation in their generation as if the body of the body and the soule of the soule but the whole of the whole through the special and meer immediat act of Gods providence then any in other creatures generation for generation in man sure is of persons not of parts Of which persons God in regard of the soule is the outward efficient and makes parents the procreating cause the materiall cause is spirituall matter of the parents souls which God blowing upon by his power lighteth one flame by another without any division or diminution of that spirituall lamp which is fed with the oile of animall spirits And thus it may be as well propagated as united God concurring in his spirituall power upon the soule to which at first he gave being and making man the instrument to produce it in the
purgatory to be papisticall inventions The outward Court where all the people assembled might well signifie that part of the Church visible on earth which have not yet attained to that true measure of holinesse which others have yet are in the Churches pale by admission into it by circumcision and baptisme and so are in the Churches suburbs which is troden even by profane people Rev. 11.2 but none entreth into the holy state of the Church but the upright and worker of righteousnesse Psal 15. Mathe. What signification have the adjuncts and vessels of these rooms Phila. The utensils and vessels in generall may well signifie holy persons or holy gifts 1. Holy persons whether Ecclesiastick or Civill as 2 Tim. 2.20 21. In a great house are vessels of gold and silver Raban on Exod. wood and stone some for honour and some for dishonour If a man purge himselfe from them of dishonour he shall be a vessell of honor sanctified and meet for the masters use and prepared to every good work Which vessels may be sometime captived as those of the Temple by Babels King and Romes Antichrist yet they shall still remain Gods vessels and be returned to their right use by reformation in due time 2. As they be taken for gifts they set forth those divine graces by which God is served in his Church which graces may sometime be captived like Gods Ark by the Philistins 1 Sam. 4. but yet shall be received and returned to Gods service again by true zeale and repentance Mathe. I pray declare the signification of the particular utensils Phila. Those in the Sanctum or Holy place were The Altars the Laver the Table for Shew bread and the Candlestick 1. The Altars which were two of redemption which was that on which creatures were offered by fire and signified our redemption effected by the bloodshedding of Jesus Christ Gen. 4.4 Num. 28.3 John 2.29 1 Pet. 1.18 Exod. 40.6 Lev. 23.24 who was slain virtually from the beginning of the world and actually in the last age of the world he was slain for redemption of his people This Altar stood at the door of the sanctum without side to shew that none can have fellowship with the holy God or his people that makes not entrance into the Church by the sole sufficient sacrifice of Christ Next was the Altar of perfume for perfume was offered thereon every morning it stood neer the mercy seat but a vaile of the most holy place was between Exod. 30.6 7. signifying the praiers and intercessions of Christ for us as may be collected from Ephes 5.2 where Christ is called a sweet smelling savour for so he was in his death and in the devotion of his life Heb. 5.7 for he was heard for himselfe of him that is able to save And so he is for us by his mediation making our devotion acceptable by the sweetnesse of his intercession as Rev. 8.3 who is the one only Mediator betwixt God and man 1 Tim. 2.5 either for redemption signified by the bloody Altar covered with brasse or for intercession signified by the Altar of perfume which was covered with gold typing that in heaven Rev. 8.3 And therefore it is profane Idolatry to set up any other Chem. contra Trid. Co. as the Papists doe in their Rosary and also in their Manual of praiers chapt 1.11 and in many other of their tracts to that purpose Also these two Altars may well set forth a Christians offering up of himselfe to God by a reasonable sacrifice Rom. 12.1 as also our devotions in praier and thanksgiving related to by Malachie cap. 1.11 In every place incense shall be offered to my name Tertul. adv Marcion Hieron in Mal. 1. Rupert on Malac. Justin Martyr Cam. Triphon even a pure offering i. of praier and praise such as St Paul intimates 1 Tim. 2.8 willing the Gentiles to lift up pure hands in all places and to give alms which is a sacrifice of a sweet smell Phil. 4.18 and very acceptable to God as was that of Cornelius Acts 10.4 Mathe. What might be signified by the Laver Phila. It was made of brasse for endurance to hold water and of glasse Exod. 30.18 Exod. 38.8 that the Priests who were to wash therein before they went to the Altar might discern their cleannesse or foulnesse It was called a molten sea 2 Chron. 4.6 This might signifie the Laver of our new birth Eph. 5.23 and Tit. 3.5 namely Baptisme wherein we are purged by the blood of Christ through the eternall spirit and also our faith by whose operation hand and heart head and foot affection and action is to be cleansed Jam. 4.8 when we draw neer unto God and that we may lift up pure hands 1 Tim. 2.8 and look to our feet when we enter into the house of God Eccles 4.17 And to monish us hereof the Church thought fit in ancient times to set the font for baptisme at the entrance of the Church as this Laver stood at the entrance of the Holy place that as they so we might be cleansed before we offered our selves to God at the Altar of praier or praise and to examine our selves by the glasse of the word Jam. 1.23 as the Priests by the Lavers glasse placed in the foot thereof observe their spots or their purity And as our selves so our devotions are to be washed and cleansed also as the sacrifices were in the Temple in the ten Caldrons 1 Kin. 7.38 so our devotions to the equity of the ten Commandements though for the perfection of them we trust only upon the Lamb of God by whose merits we come boldly to the throne of grace This Laver and Solomons sea 1 Kin. 7.23 was answered by the sea of glass Rabanus in Rev. and Bale on that place Rev. 4.6 and the glasse of one and the chrystall of the other might well represent the clear word of God which God hath joined to the Sacraments by which through his spirit Aug in John tract 17. Bed in Rom. 10 the Sacraments are made efficacious And thus we are made clean by the word also which Christ hath spoken to us Mathe. What signified the Table of Shew-bread Phila. This table with the bread and frank insence set thereon prefigured divers things in the New Testament Orig in Lev. 24. The table might the holy Scripture and the bread of proposition the Ministers because the table was never to be removed but the bread was every seventh day Bed l. 1. c. 7. and new set on upon the Sabbath So the Ministers having finished their course are taken off by death and others come in their place But more properly the Table of the Lord named 1 Cor. 10.21 by St Paul and is never called an Altar by the ancient writers but only because there is a sacramentall seale of Christs body broken and his blood shed though the Papists love to call it so the more easily to make people
comming to judgement Mathe. What benefits have we by his resurrection Phila. Surely very many as first the confirmation of our faith in Christ that he was the Son of God because he raised himselfe from the dead and that we are justified from our sins or else why is our surety let out of the prison of his grave but that Gods justice is fully satisfied Rom. 4. and the last verse Again it causeth a twofold resurrection in us first from sin to a new life of grace Rom. 6.4 Secondly of our bodies from the grave 1 Thes 4.14 so it gives us an hope of heavenly inheritance 1 Pet. 1.3 4. The reason whereof is because Christ sustained our persons in himselfe and so we have our part both in his death and resurrection Rom. 8.11 Therefore this doctrine ought ever to be remembred 2 Tim. 2.8 not only in our head but in our life by standing up from the dead Eph. 5.14 lest if we have no part in the first resurrection we lose also our part in the second And remembred it ought to be the rather because it may comfort against the most sad afflictions Esa 26.19 from whence Christ can raise us So against the fear of Gods wrath because it is fully satisfied from which baptism a type of the ark and of our rising with Christ above the deluge of Gods justice doth now save us 1 Pet. 3.21 and against the power of death Rom. 8.11 which by vertue hereof is so subdued that it shall not alwaies suppresse us Mathe. For what end or purpose did Christ ascend into heaven Phila. To fulfill what was foreshewed in legall types and shadowes of him As the high Priest of the Jewes entring into the most holy place Heb. 7.26 which was a type of heaven as he himselfe was of Christ So to shew that he fulfilled all things on earth which concerned our redemption and reconciliation and therefore now ascended in triumph leading captivity captive as Abraham did the forces of the four Kings Psal 68.18 and as Barack did the Midianites and so enter into his glory prepared Iohn 17.5 through the gates of heaven intimated Psal 24.7 and so demonstrate that Angels and principalities and powers were made subject to him 1 Pet. 3.22 Also that in Heaven he might make intercession for us Heb. 9.24 who yet are in this world as in the outward court of the most holy place where the Jewes stood when the High Priest entred to make an attonement for them he being sprinkled with blood having the holy censer with sweet incense in his hand by which means he hath opened a way for us into heaven Heb. 10.10 as he had promised and now performed it John 14.2 3 Eph. 2.6 by carrying our flesh into heaven as a pledge that we should all follow that beleeve in him also that we might place our mind where our treasure is and not misplace them on earthly things Col. 3.1 nor to dream of his bodily presence in this world as if we would know him still after the flesh This doctrine of Christs ascension should make us to forsake sin and satan not be subject to that slave which Christ hath led captive So to be willing to die that we may go to the place which Christ hath entred for us and therefore not to mourn immoderately for the dead in Christ who are seized of heaven already Mathe. What is meant by Christs sitting on Gods right hand for I conceive not God to have either right or left hand nor how Christ is tied to any such posture Phila. You are to understand that sitting so importeth in Scripture abiding or habitations as Luke 24.49 sometime judiciary power as Solomon was said to sit on the throne of his Father though he was not alwaies tied to that posture 1 Kin. 2.30 So by right hand is understood power and help and glory Psal 44.3 Sometimes therefore as man is said to be helped by Gods power and protected when he standeth on his right hand Psal 16.8 or holdeth by his right hand Psal 73.23 So one is exalted when one is said to be on Christs right hand Psal 45.29 which is spoken of the Church So Christ by his sitting is understood to rest in felicity from all his labor and pain and on Gods right hand having dignity imperiall and power judiciall so that we are to understand by his sitting on Gods right hand that he doth not only rest in joy and felicity but hath obtained the highest dignity above all men and Angels Eph. 1.28 and that he is copartner with his father in his Kingdome and therefore he hath power over all things in heaven and in earth Mat. 28.18 not that God the Father ceaseth to rule but that he pleaseth to administer his Kingdome by his Son yet he also makes Christs enemies his footstool Psal 110.1 till which time Christ must reign by and in the Kingdome of grace 1 Cor. 15. but then he shall deliver up this Kingdome to God the Father i. the rule which he exerciseth now by Gospell means shal cease when his enemies are subdued and the elect fully gathered and glorified not that his Kingdome by which he is equall with God shall cease for of that his Kingdome shall be no end but of that Kingdome by which he governeth by means and holy methods of Word and Sacraments and mysteries of godlinesse Now then who can be ashamed of Christs service who is so great a potentate but rather to submit to his government with all reverence and conscience of his greatnesse and power that so we may shew our selves worthy subjects and servants to him lest we cause that blessed name to be blasphemed by which we are called And who can choose but trust in him for provision in all wants and deliverance in all temptations of satan or any adversity since our Saviour hath an universall power by sitting at the right hand of God Mathe. Whether is this the uttermost degree of Christs honor and exaltation Phila. No for he shall come from thence to judge the world In which we are to consider many things for the terror of some and the comfort of others Mathe. What need or why must there be a judgement day Phila. First for the confusion of wicked men who have mocked at it 2 Pet. 3.3 whom he confutes in that chapter first of being ignorant that the world was made by the Word of God and that he destroied once by water Gen. 7.11 in the 600. year of Noahs life and that the world which is now is reserved for fire unto the day of judgement and perdition of ungodly men foretold by Isa 66.15 Dan. 7.10 Mal. 4.1 and threatning a fire that shall consume the wicked both root and branch Secondly he shewes the reason why God deferreth it not that he is slack in his purpose but because he would not have them all to perish by a sudden surprize but that Jew and Gentile
write Parishes were bounded and divided in England Then comes Severinus the first who was confirmed in his Chair by Isacius the Exarche of Italy For then the choice of the Clergy and the people of Rome was not much esteemed Theodoretus was the son of Theodorus Bishop of Jerusalem for as yet spirituall men did marry He was adverse to the heresie of the Monothelites who held Christ had but one will as God and man yet we find it otherwise Mat. 26.39 Not my will but as thou wilt Pope Martin was an enemy to the same heresie and suffered banishment for it by Constans the Emperour and had his tongue cut out Hist Magd. can 7. c. 10. and his right hand cut off and now the Chair of Rome was void of a Bishop fourteen months Eugenius first ordained Bishops to have prison houses to correct the crimes of the Clergy Next Vitelianus who admitted Organs in the Church to sing Psalms withall Next followed Adeodatus in whose time the signs in heaven threatned judgements for Idolatry Plat. in vita Domni 1. And in his time the Saracens spoiled Sicily Domnus succeeds who first brought the Church of Ravenna to be obedient to the Church of Rome and all that did not 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 were counted Churches of a strange head Agatho succeeds him in whose time the Emperour Constantinus Pogonatus assembled the sixt Councill of Constantinople and condemned the Monothelites This Agatho in his Fpistle to this Councill Antichrist more plainly appearing maintained that the Chair of Rome never erred nor can and that all that will be saved must hold Romes traditions and receive her constitutions as if from Peter himselfe He condemned the marriage of Priests and setteth up the Masse Next followeth Benedictus the second in whose time the foresaid Emperour Const Pog. gave away the power of electing or confirming Popes of Rome from himselfe and the Exarche of Italy to the Clergy and people of Rome which after proved hurtfull to the Empire Sergius the first refused to subscribe the Acts of the Councill of Constantinople Plat. de vita Sergii which Justinian the second had called He was a great Masse-monger John the seventh refused to give answer to the Embassadors of Justinian the second who desired union between the East and West Churches about the marriage of the Clergy and the equality of the Patriarch of Constantinople in dignity with the Bishop of Rome which the sixth generall Councill had decreed contrary to the Popes tenets and constitutions but he liked better still to deny such marriages though contrary to Gods word and to hold up his superiority formerly given by the Emperour Phooas And after him Constantine the first who suffered at Nicomedia his feet to be kissed by the Emperour Justinian the second Acts 10.26 though Peter would not suffer Cornelius who was but a Centurion to worship him on his knee He also declared the Emperour Philippicus an Heretick and commanded his name to be razed out of the Role of Emperours because he had abolished the picture of the Fathers of the sixt generall Councill Antichrists impudence by persecuting Christian Emperours out of the Temple of Sophia This shewed Antichrists violence beginning to work to some purpose After him comes Gregory the second who excommunicates the Emperour Leo Isaurus for abolishing images and drawes away many Countries in Italy from his obedience forbidding them to pay tribute contrary to Christ his masters rule who said give to Caesar what is Caesars Mat. 22.21 Gregory the second succeeded him in place and manners and by a Councill at Rome Func com in chro lib. 8. confirms worshipping of images Zacharias the first followes who set up Pipinus to be King of France and thrust Childericus the right heir into a Monastery about 733. Stephanus the second followeth whom Pipinus releeveth from the siege of the Lombards and bestoweth upon him great dominions which the Church of Rome claimeth falsely as the gift of Constantine Yet for all his kindness when he came to be Godfather to King Pipins son he suffered both him and his eldest son Charls to kisse his feet hold his stirrop and walk his horse and at last was carried on mens shoulders Paulus the first succeeds him and is as bad as he and he threatens the Emperour Const Copronymus with excommunication except he restore the images of the Saints which he had demolished After him succeeded Constantine the second who had never taken holy orders After him succeeded Stephanus the third who by a Councill he called at Rome condemned the seventh generall Councill of Constantinople convented by the Emperour Copronymus condemning the worshipping of images He made Charlemain repudiate his wife Berthra daughter to Desiderius King of the Lombards left he should withdraw his affections from Rome Then followed Adrian the first upon whom Charlemain bestowed more dominions after he had first rid himselfe of the Kingdome of the Lombards in Italy anno 776. This Pope was a great patron to images as now Irene the Empresse of the East was a patronesse and so was the Councill she called at Nice She was deposed by her son but she got his eies put out and so he died in prison Now the Eastern Empire began to fade and wane and declines to the West For Leo the third succeeding him whom Charlemain confirms in the Chair of Rome against all his enemies For which favour Leo declares him Emperour of the West which none before ever took upon them and crowned him And afterward it grew to a custome that the Emperours received their Crown from the Popes of Rome But as yet it stood firm that no Pope should be elected without the advice and investment of the Emperour of the West But this held not long Func com l. 9. for Stephanus the fourth succeeding Leo the third was elected without the consent of Ludovicus Pius son of Charlemain Paschalis the first succeeds him without consent of the Emperour also which he excused by Embassadors because the Clergy and people of Rome had compelled him to receive it The Emperour to avoid trouble granted that Rome should afterward chuse their own Bishops But Gregory the fourth following would have the Emperours consent but others following did accept it without Sergius the second succeeds Gregory who was the first Pope that changed his Christian name because it was odious viz. os porci Hogs mouth He put Agnus Dei in the Liturgie Leo the fourth succeeds who was a great builder Edelwolphus King of England performing a vow at Rome grants to Leo the 4th a penny in every house in England that kindled a fire in it a warriour against the Sarazens as well as a Bishop In his time the first Cardinall called Athanasius was condemned for neglect of his calling who was a Presbyter but the first Cardinall that we read of except in the counterfeit decretall Epistles before Pope Sylvester After Leo the
fourth succeeds Pope Joan or John the eight born in Mentz went to Athens in mans apparell came to Rome and was to the Popedome advanced proved with child delivered as she was going to the Church of Lateran of whom Anastasius a Chronologer who lived about this time maketh no mention for shame of the fact but passed it Benedict the third honoured much the funerals of the Clergy with his own presence and desired the Bishops might by the whole Clergie Nicolaus the first succeeds him who suffered the Emperour Ludovicus the second to alight and lead his horse by the bridle a full mile He permitted divorces without consent of parties as the Anabaptists do and or dained that the Clergy should not be subject to civill Magistrates seats of Judicature And that none should receive the Sacrament from a married Clergy man and that the Emperour should not be present at Ecclesiasticall meetings unlesse some point of faith were to be handled and the common service of the Church to be in Latine in all Churches but dispensed with Sclavonia and Polonia He added to the Liturgie the Hymn of Glory be to God on high Hadrian the second succeeds who proudly commanded the King of France Carolus Calvus to let Hircmanus Bishop of Laudunum to appeale to Rome after his condemnation by a Councill in France but he refused However John the ninth his successor crowned him Emperor and after him Balbus and then Crassus all three named Charls Hadrian the third ordained that the Clergy and people of Rome should chuse their Pope without attendance upon the Emperours allowance or leave And that after the death of Carolus Crassus who died without succession that the imperiall title and government of Italy should belong to an Italian Prince which bred great contention and debate among the Princes and much trouble to the Chair of Rome every Prince striving to advance him to it that was most friend to himselfe Stephanus the fifth followed who ordained that whatsoever the Church of Rome appointed was to be perpetually observed Pormosus succeeds him who crowned the Emperour Arnulphus and then Boniface the sixt was next Then Stephanus the sixt who offered great violence to the dead body of Formosus cutting off his fingers and disanulling his ordination yea and his crowning the Emperour Arnulphus and set up Albertus Marquesse of Tuscia in his stead Now Antichrist appears more then ever before by putting down and setting up Emperours Romanus succeeds him and nuls the decrees of Stephanus Theodorus succeeds him and alloweth them againe John the tenth nuls the decrees of Stephanus the sixt and alloweth them of Formosus How were these men led infallibly by the spirit Sergius the third who again took up the body of Formosus after eight yeers and beheaded it He loved Marozia and on her begot a son who was afterward made Pope and called Iohn the twelfth Pope Iohn the thirteenth committing adultery was slain by the womans husband but first deposed by a Councill called by Otho the first Emperour Leo the eighth succeeds who finding and being weary of the sedition and insolence of the Roman people resigned the chusing of Popes to the Emperour Iohn the fourteenth succeeds who first brought in baptizing of bels and he called the great bell of the Church of Lateran by his own name Iohn Then Gregory the fifth who after much trouble by the advice of the Emperour O ho the third The seven Electors of the Empire appointed made a constitution of seven Electors to chuse the Emperour for the time to come which continueth still namely the Bishops of Mentz Colen and Tryer the Count Palatine the Duke of Saxony and the Marquesse of Brandenburgh and in case of difference the King of Bohemia Next followed Sylvester the second Platina a great scholler but a Magician He enquired of the devill how long he should live Pope he did answer him till he said masse at Ierusalem which fell out at a Chappell so called at Rome where this Pope saying masse in Lent was stricken with a feaver of which he died Mathe. But yet we hear of no great persecutions Phila. True Why no great persecution yet by the Pope because yet the Church was of one language and none stands up against the corrupt tenets of Rome Mathe. Why do you then reckon up this bedroll of Popes Phila. Because you may know how and by whom corruption crept in which corruption being contradicted by some whom God enlightned then began persecutions Mathe. I pray now go on Phila. I have not nor shall trouble you with all of them but with some who have acted things very remarkable Therefore after Sylvester the second and divers other Popes Leo the ninth called a Councill against Berengarius who denied transubstantiation Nicolaus the second followed who forced by a Councill Berengarius to recant who did yet afterward wrote against transubstantiation He was poisoned as other Popes before him Alexander the second followed who denied to rule as Pope without the Emperours consent For which he was beaten in a chamber by Hildebrand in his pontificials and cast into prison where he died Hildebrand called Gregorius the seventh succeeds He called the marrigâ—e of Priests the heresie of the Nicolaitans and receiving Ecclesiasticall preferments and offices from Lay men though Princes symony About this time William the Conquerour came into England This was brought to passe by the thunder of excommunications which made the Emperour Henry the fourth travell to Rome in the hard winter to get absolution from the Popes curse Vrbanus the second excited Princes to war against the Turks who had got Jerusalem This he did in a Councill held at Cleremount in France and by divers Princes recovered it for a while But this war made Christian Princes so weak both in power and purse that the Pope more easily brought them all under his girdle Paschalis the second succeeds him who at the Church of Lateran had a scepter put into his hand and girded with a girdle having seven seals and keies hanging at it signifying his power of binding and loosing shutting and opening sealing and resigning and judging He excommunicated Henry the fourth the Emperour and excites his son Henry the fifth against him He took up the corps of Henry the fourth and kept it above ground five yeers Well did the Bishop of Florence write in this Popes time that Antichrist was born and manifested to the world and therefore he was silenced by the Councill of Florence which this Pope called and his book burnt You see how persecutions began now upon Emperours and Bishops This Pope would not crown Henry the fifth Emperour unlesse he would give over his right of investment of Bishops by the staffe and ring but the Emperor laid hold of him and his Cardinals and compelled him to do it and the Pope solemnly divided the holy Host between him and the Emperour and wished that he might be divided from the Kingdom of
scabit mutum said that God had revealed to him that Iohn should be King of the world and should destroy the Princes of the world by a mighty army but spare the simple multitude and such as would imbrace righteousnesse and that he should send forth twenty eight Apostles to convert the world to Anabaptisme And Iohn himselfe pretending to awake out of a trance seemed dumb like Zacharias wrote in tables that it was the will of God that twelve men of his naming should govern the City and that a man might marry as many wives as he pleased and he beheaded some that opposed it He himselfe took fifteen and many of these brethren upon this ordinance lay with the hansomest women without marriage or contract He was called King of New Ierusalem and proclaimed King of Zion But his Apostles were executed as seditious persons and he and his Prophet were hanged in iron chains upon the high steeple of St Lambert after Munster was taken 1535. being besieged halfe a year The madnesse of this man was strange for one of his wives pitying the distresse of the City he cut off her head himself in the market place Sleid. 154. And another time at his great feast to which another false Prophet had called Thuscocuvar had excited him as being sent from God he accused a man of treason and cut off his head and returning administred the communion with those bloody hands But for all he took on him the title of a King yet this shewed him a Butcher as the stealing the Churches rich vestments and making them into robes for himselfe argued he had been a Tailor After Iohns death the Anabaptists chose another King Hort. p. 74. who killed his wife in a wood that he might quietly lie with her daughter and killed a poor wench lest she should discover him This man had his house well stored with Church-plate He and his Treasurer were burned After him succeeds Iohn Cordwainer John Cordwainer Cornelius Appleman Ch. Nelles p. 52 55 56. John Wilhelms and then Cornelius Appleman both which were executed at Brussels as the Captains of theeves and committers of sacriledge Then Iohn Wilhelms executed also at Vtrecht He wrote a book in defence of Polygamy and affirmed that to rob the ungodly was no sin and that the land belonged to Jesus Christ and his disciples He had one and twenty wives some mother and daughter and some sisters daughters He was burned It is lamentable to behold these peoples hypocrisie Sleidan Bullinger They pretended nothing at first but holinesse humility and honesty They used no swearing nor obscene speech yet being once got aloft they broke all lawes of humanity and honesty so they would bear no office Hortensius Gastius yet at last would be Kings They said it was unlawfull for a Christian man to bear arms or punish offenders yet they made nothing of murdering many you may read more of them in divers authors Of this sect was David Georgius in Holland who said he was Jesus Christ David Georg and held many other wicked errors He fled out of the Low Countries to Basil and very covertly dispersed his errors but being dead they were revealed and by the Councill of Basil his bones were digged up and burned in detestation of his blasphemies Mathe. What be the common received opinions of these men and your judgement of them Phila. You are to understand that their opinions in divers times and places varied they not holding alwaies the same Anabapt opinions But their opinion first and last are neither fit for Church Commonwealth nor Families First not for the Church for they have affirmed that Christ did not take flesh of the Virgin Mary yet they can shew no other save her and for that the Scriptures prophecie that he should come of a woman Gen. 3. and of Davids line Psal 132.11 and that woman should be a virgin Isaiah the 7. and that her name was Mary saith Luke cap. 1. and yet she could not be his mother if he had not taken flesh of her nor our flesh have any hope of eternall life These are worse Christians then Turks Bulling adver Anab. fol. 6. for they beleeve he was so born but these curse the flesh of the Virgin and so deny Christ to be come in the flesh 2 Ioh. v. 7.2 they say in Moravia that Christ was not true God but only better gifted then other men yet St Iohn saith The Word was God Joh. 1.1 and Christ said he and his Father were one Joh. 10. and he that sees him seeth the Father Iohn 24.9 10. Michael Servetus a Spaniard held the same who was burnt in Geneva And Valentinus Gentilis who called the Creed of Athanasius the Creed of Satanasius he was justly executed at Berne Thirdly they hold we are not saved by faith but by the works of charity and affliction yet Christ saith we obtain eternall life by beleeving on him Iohn 3.16 So Paul Rom. 3.24 28. for afflictions they are either punishments of sin or Gods corrections but no causes of justification or salvation But the blood of Christ only clenseth us from all sin 1 Iohn 1. and by him only we have peace with God Rom. 5.1 And fourthly they deny originall sin because Christ hath taken away the sins of the world but that is the penalty not the being of it So they say that children doing neither good nor evill are under grace and without sin But then how comes death to lay hold on them Rom. 5.14 and cap. 6.23 And therefore fifthly they may well deny baptisme to them if they have no originall sin But Christ said let little children come to me and yet none can tell how they should come but by this Ordinance Sixthly they rebaptize people which is no where commanded in Scripture nor allowed by the Church nor the imperiall lawes which put them to death that did or suffered it to be done Seventhly they expect a Kingdome by some called the fist Monarchy wherein they hope to reign alone and destroy the ungodly This savours of carnall and worldly wisdome for Christs Kingdome is not of this world Iohn 18. but is spirituall so is the meat and drink of it Rom. so are the weapons of it 2 Cor. 10. Nor can they reign alone and kill all the ungodly unlesse they kill themselves too But both must grow together till the harvest Mat. 13. These people do but furbush the old error of the Chiliasts or Millenaries who said the Saints must raign 1000 yeers on the earth before the last judgement who were by the Church condemned above 1000 yeers since Eighthly they say with the old Pelagians that man by his own free will can do all that God hath commanded or else God gave his law in vain nor would he punish delinquents if he had not given them power to do it which is contrary to Scripture for the Law is holy Rom. 7. just and good but we
rich mens estates and marking them out for destruction by fire and sword God keep his people from becomming their prey Mathe. What are our Antisabbatarians Phila. Such as are against the keeping of any Sabbath whether the Jewish Sabbath or the Christians Lords day Of which opinion was one Hetherington a Box-maker who said not only the Jewes Sabbath day was of no force since Christs time and the Apostles but also taught that every day was a Sabbath as much as the Lords day But he recanted his error at Pauls Crosse God be praised And good reason for though the Jewish Sabbath being but a shadow of Christ be now abolished and we are not to be judged by the keeping of it Col. 2.16 yet the morality of that Commandement is observed in keeping still one day in seven holy to the Lord for delivering us from the bondage of sin by Christs resurrection as the Jewes kept theirs in remembrance of their freedome from the bondage of Egypt Deut. 5.15 And thus the Law by the Christians observing the first day of the week Rom. 3.31 is not made void but established It is true that there is no precept for the changing of it because there was no need for the morall intent of the Law commanded only that one day in seven be kept so that if the Patriarchs before the Law was given by Moses kept a seventh day in respect to the creation and the Jewes kept a seventh in respect of their liberation from Egypt and the Christians keep their seventh day in relation to Christs redemption that Commandement is fulfilled so far as it requireth an holy seventh day And though we have no precept for changing yet we have their practice and examples who had the mind of Christ For the first day of the week called since Christs time the Lords day was first kept at Jerusalem Acts 2.1 upon which the Holy Ghost descended on the Apostles Then again at Troas Acts 20.7 in which verse is declared that it was their usuall meeting day And the holy Fathers have alwaies observed it Epist ad Magnes and urged the keeping of it as Ignatius scholler to St Iohn the Apostle his auditor about thirty years the second Bishop of Antioch and a Martyr but 107 years after Christ in the raign of the Emperour Trajan 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 He saith let every one that loveth Christ instead of the Sabbath celebrate the Lords day And Basil saith that when all daies prescribed by the Law are abolished yet there remains one great day of the Lord which shall never be abolished Of this opinion for the seventh day Jewish Sabbath and against the celebration of the Lords day Traskilus was one Iohn Trask and Theophilus Brabourn but both recanted their errors for which glory be to God Trask preached against eating of blood and unclean creatures upon mistake of the injunction of the first Councill of the Apostles to the Gentiles Acts 15.2 where blood and things strangled do not relate to such things prepared for meat but to the barbarous or canibal eating of things halfe alive and halfe dead in their blood or eating any thing that was torn from a living creature therefore Paul saith that every creature of God is good Mathe. What are your Soule-sleepers Phila. Those that revive that Sect in the time of Origen Soul-sleepers in the third centurie of years after Christ who held the soule did sleep in the dust with the body after death because God said to Adam Dust thou art and to dust thou shalt return not perceiving this was spoken of the body only not of the soule which came not from thence Gen. 2.7 And also because Solomon saith Eccle. 3.10 that man and beast all return to one place yet they might have considered that he saith also the spirit of a beast goeth downward and the spirit of a man goeth upward even to God that gave it Eccles 12. and that the soules of the righteous are in the hands of the Lord Wisd 3. In the sight of the unwise they seem to die but they are in peace Mathe. What are your seekers Phila. Surely people that have so long contended about truth and the Church Seekers that they have quite lost it and therefore they say there is no true Church nor Minister nor Ordinances yet they expect and seek with Loe here it is and then there it is and catch at every thing but hold nothing like one that leaps out of a boat into the water and then catches at every rush and flag to save himself Mathe. What are your Divorcers Phila. Another sprout of the Anabaptists Divorcers who like the Jewes would put away their wives for a small cause under pretence that he finds her not an help meet for him But this is contrary to Christs rule Mat. 5.31 and c. 19.9 that no man should put away his wife but for whoredome lest he cause her to commit adulterie or another man to marry her and so he commit adultery Mathe. Is there any more such weeds in the Churches field Phila. Yes surely for I hear of some that account the Scriptures a thing of nought both the holy books of the Old and New Testament such were put to death under Moses Law Heb. 5.28 But we live in greater times of liberty I may say Libertinisme The Lord hold the reine which Magistrates let too slack lest these unruly creatures hurry both the Church chariot and the horsemen of Israel to destruction Mathe. I pray what are the Shakers Phila. A kind of people that pretend to have the spirit by fits But what spirit it is that casts them into these seeming or swooning extasies I know not but I doubt much whether it be the spirit of God or of Satan or of dissembling I have read of the spirit of Apollo that used such feats upon the bodies of those whom he had possessed namely of shaking and quaking which being past they have spoken some words which have been received for his Oracles So I have read and heard of Nuns pretended to be possessed by evill spirits beyond the seas which the Friers can expell at their pleasure But I never knew nor ever read in any credible author that the spirit of God doth or hath entred the body of men in any such manner but hath enlightned the mind with sober knowledge and sound repentance and comfortable faith and well grounded speeches that are unreprovable and lead them in a life unblameable But these Quakers their speeches are confused and yet perverse and peremptorie Their lives erroneous not knowing or refusing to use the creature of God as lawfully they may I find them people of no sound knowledge yet despising learning and rejecting Gods Ministers and Ordinances by which they may be better instructed They dare not use their own native language as the word you either because the Scripture useth the word thou or else because they think
jurisdiction 4. In Ecclesiasticall censure And 5. In giving definitive sentences Mathe. I pray make this plainly appear Phila. 1. For imposition of hands or confirmation we find no Presbyter nor any of the 72 Disciples to take that office upon him alone without the Apostle or Bishop and when they did so they did it rather for approbation of the partie then benediction Therefore though Philip converted the Samaritans and did miracles yet Peter and John were sent to confirm them Act. 8. so did S. Paul at Ephesus Acts 19. which imposition of hands was not alwaies the medium of conveying the gift of tongues and doing miracles but of sanctifying and comforting grace and therefore called a fundamentall point of Christianitie Heb. 6.2 So 2. For ordination we find it still given by the Apostles not by the Disciples therefore Acts 6. when the seven Deacons were chosen the Apostles laid their hands upon them not any other of the Disciples out of whose number they were taken though they were now but only ordained Deacons of the Churches stock Concil Const in Trul. Can. 16. not of the holy mysteries And 3. They had a full jurisdiction over the Church John 20.21 as my Father sent me so send I you Bed l. 3. c. 15. in Lucan This was not said to the 72 Disciples who might well be the first representative Presbyters but to the Apostles Christ spake this from whom both Presbyters and Deacons were to take their order which if any man with the heretick Arrius will deny then he must prove from whence Presbyters derive their order From Christ they cannot he made none of that name if from the Apostles then they must confesse it subordinate to the Apostles order set in the Church or else they must confound Apostles and Presbyters together contrary to St Paul who saith all are not Apostles 1 Cor. 12.29 So 4. In Ecclesiasticall censures the Apostles and Bishops were supreme as may be seen in 1 Cor. 5.3 where by the authority of Paul the incestuous person is to be delivered to Satan This was the Apostolike rod 1 Cor. 4.21 and as the Fathers called it the Bishops sword which no Presbyter did use to handle farther than as it was delegated to him by the Apostle or Bishop to denounce or declare So 5. In giving definitive sentence in any matter of faith we find it still in the Apostle or Bishop as Acts 15.13 after Peter Paul and Barnabas had been heard James not the Apostle but Bishop of Jerusalem being president of that Councill gave definitive sentence in that controversie about circumcising the Gentiles Mathe. But doth this government stand still in force Phila. I know not why it should not being derived from so high an authority as Christ and his Apostles It is true the pride of the Roman Bishop and the idlenesse of some others have caused the people in many places to cast off this government by which the truth hath much suffered and the people have been much distracted by strange forms of government imposed Mathe. Hath God set any certain forms of government for the Church Phila. Yes in all ages For from Adam to the flood the discipline of the Church was domesticall and paternall the most ancient of the family being both Prince and Priest by which two Offices God hath alwaies governed his Church The eldest son alwaies succeeded in his fathers place except for wickednesse he was rejected as Cain Cham and Reuben After the flood God continued it in Shem who was King and Priest thought to be Melchizedeck Next God called Abraham whom Melchisedeck blessed who ruled his family like a Prince and a Priest so did Isaack his son to whom the promised seed was entailed His son Jacob though the younger got the blessing and birth-right He had twelve sons God in them severed these offices Judah had the scepter and seed roiall insured to him Levi had the Priesthood 1 Chron. 5.2 and Joseph had the birth-right And these three never met again in any one but in Jesus Christ Then after Jacob the Church was governed again by the heads and fathers of the twelve tribes though obscurely in Egypt from whence when God had graciously delivered them and made them his peculiar people he severed the tribe of Levi from the rest to wait upon his Altar Yet he made a distinction of Priests and Levites and of Aaron and his sons from the rest of the same tribe by committing to them the charge of the holy things of the Tabernacle Num. 4. v. 15. 19 20 27 33. and by appointing them over the other Levits that came of Gershom Kohah and Merari to command them their severall services And God punished those that rebelled against this order as may be seen in Corah Dathan and Abiram Num. 6.9 10. who accounting that order wherein God had placed them to be a small matter did aspire to the Priests office and so incurred upon themselves the wrath of God Beside among the Levites themselves were three principall heads named by God himselfe as Eliasaph for the Gershonites Num. 3.24 30. Elizaphan for the Kohathites and Zuriel for the Merarites And afterward there were other chiefe fathers of the Levites that directed the rest in their severall courses allorted by David 1 Chron. 23.24 The Priests also were of sundry orders among themselves The first dignity belonged to the High Priest The secondary to him was Ithamar Num. 4.28 33. and his off-spring who commanded the Gershonites and Merarites to their service These were reckoned and called the Princes of the Sanctuary in those things that pertained to God And out of these were chosen by David the twenty four courses to serve in the Temple 1 Chron. 14. together with substitutes under them to assist in their presence or in their absence Luke 1.5 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 In this respect Zacharias is said to be of the course of Abia viz. the eighth course of the twenty four And these in the New Testament are called the chiefe Priests Mat. 2.4 And these also were Elders and Judges in their own Cities 1 Chron. 26. for the execution of Moses Law and sate also with the Elders sometimes of other Cities in judgement for the explication of Moses Law wherein if any thing seemed too hard then it was referred to the counsell of Priests of the Levites and Judges which sate in that place Deut. 17. which the Lord did chuse for the Ark to rest in Mathe. But what is this to the Church Christian Phila. Though it cannot be proved by consequent that the Church Christian is bound to the same manner of government altogether For 1. The tribe of Levi was not subject to any other tribe but true Christian Ministers are though the popish Priests love not to be yoaked by the secular power 2. The politie of the Jewes being contained in the Law of Moses Deut. 21.19 it was necessary the Judges should
overseers while they lived and so left it to other faithfull men afterward James was the first Bishop of Jerusalem as saith Eusebius lib. 3. cap. 5. and St Ierome saith the Apostles ordained him so And Theodoret upon the Philip. chap. 1. saith that Epaphroditus had the Episcopall office setled on him because Paul calleth him their Apostle Eph. 2.25 Mathe. Why were not Bishops trusted with the Church at the first erecting of it Phila. Because the Church had at first more need of Presbyters and Deacons Epiph. cont Aerium lib. 3. ho. 75. for whilst the Apostles continued neer the places where they had planted Churches there was no need of any Bishops or overseers save themselves by their presence letters or messengers But when they were finally to forsake those parts then they did secure the Church by fit substitutes 2. Sufficient men for the office were very scarce to be had as Phil. 2. I have no man like Timotheus who will faithfully care for your matters for all seek their own Calv. Insilt lib. 4. cap. 8. 3. Factions began by the equality of Presbyters as some among the Galathians set up circumcision So Phil. 3. some were called dogs and evill workers and were the enemies to the crosse So Col. 2. some burdened the Church with traditions others corrupted the Gospell with Philosophy Col. 2. So some impugned the resurrection 1 Cor. 15. and Col. 2. Others fained the day of Christ to be at hand 2 Thes 2. many wolves entred foretold Acts 20. and false teachers 2 Pet. 2. yea many Antichrists 1 John 2. and cap. 4. to prevent or represse which the Apostles set up superintendents or Bishops to rule the Presbyters as they to teach the people that the gainsaiers might be reproved Tit. 1.5 And that they exercised Episcopall jurisdiction is plain in that he had power of ordination 1 Tim. 5.2 Oecumen in 1 Tim. cap. 4. lay hands therefore suddenly on no man 1 Tim. 5. And also the power of correction So 1 Tim. 5.1 Rebuke not an Elder but exhort him as a father which plainly shewes the difference between a Bishop and a Presbyter And if we read ancient writers Epiph. haeres 25. Cypr. l. 1. Ep. 8. Ep. 4. you will find beside the proofe of Scripture both reason and practise enough for the setting of Bishops in the Church over Presbyters although in many cases the Presbyters did associate the Bishop Mathe. But how prove you Bishops to be chiefe Phila. It is not unlike but the Church having received this order from the Apostles would alwaies continue it and therefore from the Primitive times they had peculiar to themselves Hier. ad Rusti Monachum singularity in succession and superiority in ordination By singularity I understand one Bishop in one City though divers Presbyters and Deacons in divers Congregations and upon this singularity depends the safety of the Church Hier. advers Lucif which else would be rent asunder by as many schismes as there be Priests It may be you will object that St Paul seems to acknowledge many Bishops in one City Phil. 1.1 as at Philippi he writes to the Bishops and Deacons Oecumen in 1 cap. ad Phil. Chrys hom 1. in 1 chap. ad Philip. Opt. cont Pamerianum l. 25 But these were Presbyters yet called Bishops because as yet the name was common to both but afterward they were distinguished by their proper name as Theodoret writes in the 1 chap. to the Philippians And Optatus saith that he is a schismatick and a sinner that erecteth one Bishops seat against another 2. They had superiority in ordination for it was fit that the lesse should be blessed of the greater and that a superiour must ordaine the inferior It is true Concil Cartha 4. Can. 4. that the Councill of Carthage saith that Presbyters shall lay their hands neer the Bishops hand upon the head of him that is to be ordained so that shewes that Presbyters cannot ordain without a Bishop and therefore their hands were only laied by way of consent and approbation or else the Fathers and other Councils are deceived Yea Tit. 1.4 beside the Scripture settles it in the Bishop not in the Presbyters as you may read in another Councill who rejected a Presbyter that was ordained or consecrated by another Presbyter though the Bishop laied his hands upon his head but suffered the other Presbyter to read the words of consecration Concil Hispalenf Ca. 5. Epiph. haer 69. because himselfe was troubled with sore eies and could not well read So was one Colluthus a Presbyter reproved and all the Presbyters that he had presumptuously made were rejected in a generall Councill So it was decreed against Maximus a Presbyter in the same case Athan. apol 2. by the first Councill of Constantinople Can. 4. Mathe. But how prove you their succession Phila. First the Scripture tels us that the Apostles placed some in divers Cities in their life time as Timothy at Ephesus where Onesimus succeeds Eus lib. 3. cap. 35. Titus at Creet Epaphroditus at Philippi Polycarpus at Smyrna by St John Linus at Rome by St Peter Iren. l. 3. c. 3. Eus l. 2. c. 1. Iames at Jerusalem by the Apostles and he was succeeded by forty Bishops unto Macarius who sate in the Councill of Nice Eus l. 3. c. 22. So Euodias succeeds Peter at Antioch Ignatius was next who had seen Christ in the flesh Hieron in Ignat. Col. 4. Mark St Peter's scholler was Bishop of Alexandria to whom succeeded Arianus Caius of whom Paul speaks Rom. 16. was Bishop of Thessalonica Archippus of Coloss Dionysius Bishop of Corinth and so look and you shall find succession maintained by an holy care of the Church rulers commending it one to the other especially in those places and Cities that had their first Bishops from the Apostles hands and we find them in a plain succession for 676 years after Christ in the fourth fift and sixt generall Councils but by wars persecutions and the like the succession hath been in many places interrupted and sometimes at a stop in Rome it selfe but yet this sheweth there was and ought to be also so far as I see a succession of them continued Hieron ad Evagrium and therefore the Presbyters themselves till they grew factious in case there was none setled by the preceding Bishop they did elect one out of themselves and placed him in an higher degree and called him Bishop And this saith St Jerom was generall throughout the world after that men began to challenge those that they baptized to be their own and not Christs it was decreed that one of the many Presbyters in a City or Province should be chosen Hieron in 1. c. Epist ad Titum and set above the rest to whom the whole care of that Church should appertaine and in these successions continued of one and no more though the Presbyters were many
Ignat. in Epist ad Antiochen Therefore Ignatius in his Epistles to divers Churches warneth the Laity to obey the Presbyters and Deacons and that the Presbyters feed the flock till God shew who shall be your Pastor after my death Thus they succeeded one another and alwaies in an higher degree than Presbyters for although at first the name Bishop and Presbyter was used indifferently one for the other while the Episcopall office remained in the Apostles and Evangelists yet when they succeeded Calv. Instit l. 4. c. 4. S. 4. Theodor. in cap. 3.1 Ep. ad Tim. that were neither Apostles nor Evangelists then the higher degree were called Bishops answering to the Apostles by which term Apostle the Bishops were first called as was Epaphroditus * 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Phil. 2.25 but afterward they left that title to the twelve Apostles and took the name of Bishops or overseers to themselves so verifying the prophecie in Psal 45.16 concerning the Church instead of thy fathers i. the Apostles that begat thee thou shalt have children even such as thou hast begotten i. ministers Hieron in Psal 45. Aug. in Psal 45. whom thou shalt make rulers i. Bishops saith St Jerom whom the Church hath placed in the seats of her fathers and to bring them back to the cels of the Presbyters hath been accounted no lesse then sacriledge and however men may count it Reformation to abolish that order I shal pray that they may not find it destruction to the Church Exact Synod Chalcedon de Photio Eustathio and lastly to themselves a curse Pro. 20.25 Mal. 3.9 Mathe. However they succeed the Apostles in ordination and corrections yet the Presbyters think not themselves inferiour and therefore not subject to them Phil. They ought not so to think but to be subject because God hath made them Fathers and Pastors and Christ cals them the seven stars in regard of their rule as the seven Planets do govern naturall bodies and Angels in respect of their intelligence they have with Christs mind which they are to convey to others This name Angels saith Austin was given to the Ruler of the Church of Ephesas Aug Epi. 162. So Auth. in 1 Cor. cap. 12. And Bullinger saith the heavenly Epistle was directed to the Angell i. the Pastour of the Church of Smyrna which was Polycarpus who was placed there by St John fifteen yeers before he wrote the Revelation By which may be gathered that these were chiefe in authority and that Presbyters and people were to take direction and reproofe from them for he is charged above the rest and therefore surely he had some power and authority above the rest these being the chief Priests Aug. in Psa 45 and Fathers of Christs Church and therefore are to be obeied not only by the people but the Presbyters also as saith Jerom to Nepotian Hier. ad Nep. teaching the duty of a Presbyter Be subject to thy Bishop and reverence him as the father of thy soule and that Presbyter that doth not so Amb. offi lib. 2. cap. 24 Cyp l. 3. Ep. 14 he through pride swarveth from the right way And Cyprian blameth some Presbyters that without regard to the Bishop set over them do take upon them to do any thing but he threatens to suspend such from their ministry Ignat. ad Mag. Therefore Ignatius advised the Magnesians that as Christ did nothing without his Father so they should neither without their Bishop whether you be Presbyter Deacon or Lay man And he chargeth the Sarsonses thus Presbyters be subject to your Bishops Deacons to your Presbyters and Lay men to all My soule for theirs that observe this order the Lord will be alwaies with them This man lived neer enough to the Apostles time to know how the Church was then governed And by the Apostolicall Canons the Presbyters and Deacons are to do nothing without the consent of the Bishop Can. Apost 8. Concil Arelat 1. ca. 19. Hier advers Lucif for to his charge the people are committed no they are not to baptize without the Bishops leave saith Ierom and affirmeth that the safety of the Church dependeth thereupon not that Bishops usurped and took this power upon themselves but by the Apostolike tradition and example and afterward by the allowance of Emperours and lawes of States and Provinces and Synodall Canons none of which did allow any domineering in Bishops but gave them power over Presbyters and yet Presbyters leave to appeale from them if they thought themselves wronged to the neerest Bishops Concil African can 129. or to the Primate or to the next Synod Mathe. Whether may the people have the election of Pastors by Gods Word Phila. We find no such election in Gods Word Oecumen in 1 Tim. cap 4. By the commandement and appointment of the Holy Ghest were Bishops made as Timothy by prophecy Theod◠in 1 Tim. 1. i. by divine revelation say Theodore The phylact and Ambrose on the first Epistle to Timothy Next they chose others as I have shewed you Afterward came in popular elections grounded upon humane society which in reason challengeth an approbation at least of those to whom they submit themselves and allow maintenance But yet even in this the people had only rather a proposall of one or approbation of one then an election of one for they had two waies to settle a Bishop the first by election Cyp. l. 1. Ep. 1. the second was by postulation the election was thus performed When a Bishops chair was void some Bishops that were neerest consulted to meet there at a certain day of which they gave notice to the people and Presbyters of that place who came on that day into the Church and three Bishops at least came also from the adjacent places and there observed whom the Clergy named and whom the people proposed and as all or most agreed so the man was chosen but another day fixed for his ordination In the mean time any objections might be made but if he were clear the Bishops made him Pastor of that Church But secondly if that City wanted an approved man then they desired the Bishop of the ancientest City called the Metropolis and he the Metropolitan to send them such an one as he approved which he did after himselfe and three other Bishops had tried him Thus also Presbyters were setled and ordained by the examination of the Bishop and testimony of the people Concil Cartha 3. Can. 22. Conc. Laodic Can. 23. yet the multitude must not elect those that were called to be Priests though they might present such as they thought fit But alwaies three Bishops at least ordained a Bishop and one Bishop a Presbyter Can. Apost ca. 1 2. This was the common order except when the people made tumults Eus l. 1. c. 24. Evag. l. 2. c. 5. c. 8. as the Church histories tell us For which uprores the Emperour Justinian took
of Princes want discipline yet if the Church be purely visible it hath ordinarily these three notes which indeed freeth it from maintaining error heresie and schisme though all three may possibly be in it 1 Cor. 1.11 and cap. 3.3 1 Cor. 11.19 provided alwaies that the heresie thrust it not into infidelity or cause it not to deprave the doctrines of faith as the Church of Rome hath and so is become adulterous and hereticall So it may be in some things schismaticall so far as to hurt charity not verity by taking occasion unjustly as the Separatists to depart from the Church but not giving occasion to the Church to depart from them as the Papists have done to us like the old Pharisees who gave just occasion to Christ and his Apostles to separate themselves from their traditions Therefore true doctrine is the chiefe note of a true visible Church whereby people are taught as Christs sheep to hear his voice John 10.27 and to continue in his and his Apostles doctrine Acts 2.42 which is the foundation of the Church Eph. 2.20 And for the Sacraments they are commanded by Christ himselfe Mat. 28.19 and Luke 22.19 So also is the administration of discipline set down by our Saviour Mat. 18.17 and used by St Paul 1 Cor. 5.5 upon the incestuous person So that the right use of these must needs be a note of a true visible Church Let the Papists brag of their tearm Catholike I am sure it no way agreeth to them neither in respect of the extension of their Churches bounds which is not universall nor yet in regard of their doctrines which are not according to the Catholike truths confessed by the primitive or orthodox Churches of old and therefore their word Catholike is no note for a true visible Church is not to be judged by a name but by the thing it ought to hold otherwise the Pope like Simon Magus might be thought the great power of God Acts 8.10 Nor doth their boasted antiquity make their Church the more true for many things were said of old which were not intended at the first as they were afterward used Mat. 5. It is not antiquity but his truth that is the ancient of daies that is the note of the Church Aug. Q. 14. vet No. Testam The devill is older then the Church and Idolatry and Paganisme is very ancient and the Jews and the Samaritans pleaded antiquity and held the Gospell of Christ but a novelty yet their Church was not the true Beside if antiquity be a note then the Church Christian and Jerusalem and that of Antioch where Peter taught and sate as superintendent for seven years must be accounted the true Church and not Rome which was planted since but the authority of religion must not be measured by time Cypr. lib. 2. cont gent. Nor doth duration prove it the better for it is neither a proper or inseparable note as appeareth Psal 47.7 8. Rev. 12. And truly the Church of Rome hath not had a continued duration for Bellarmin saith that a Church cannot subsist without a Bishop and the seat of Rome hath been often vacant by wars and schisms among the Popes themselves as hath been formerly shewed you Nor doth their amplitude and multitudes make any thing in this case for them for Satans Kingdome is larger then Christs and his numbers more then Christs little flock who are often like Noahs family in the Ark they have a many of the vulgar Chrysost ad pop Antioch the Church hath a few faithfull one precious stone is worth many toies Nor will succession of Bishops help them to a note for who succeeded Melchisedeck but Christ many hundred of yeers falling between Vid. Athan. laudem in orat Nazian and the place changed also for the Church is not bound to place or persons of men Nor can ordination prove a note since hereticks hath it as well as the true Church neither can we find their ordination alwaies good if Pope Jone was ordained or she ordained any And Liberius the Pope being an Arrian ordained Arrians also Nor doth unity passe for a note except in the faith under one mysticall head Jesus Christ for satan is not divided against satan and very theeves are united together Nor can their miracles prove their Church true because they are false and Antichristian 2 Thes 2.9 and are invented to maintain false doctrines Beside if they were true they were not alwaies a note of a true Church for not only heathen gods have done strange things to perswade their divinity Bel. lib. de notis Eccl. cap. 14. Socrat. hist lib. 7. c. 17. but even heathen men as Vespasian made a blind man see and a lame man walk Mathe. What Church do you hold hath these three notes Phila. The true Christian Protestant Church especially as it was constituted by the first reforming Princes in England for the doctrine thereof is built upon the holy scripture They administer Sacraments in their primitive purity and hold only two generally necessary to salvation i. Baptisme and the Lords Supper rejecting all the spurious Sacraments of the Church of Rome As confirmation which the Church of England did use in a laudable manner and might do much good by using it as it was but not as a Sacrrment for it kept young people in a care to render an account of their faith and Ministers and Parents to teach them Catechisme So pennance was injoined notorious offenders for satisfaction of the Church and to reduce them better manners and to beget fear and shame in others but never held it a Sacrament no more then it did matrimony or ordination As for the fift spurious Sacrament of Rome extreme unction they never used it because not instituted of Christ as a Sacrament It is true Mark 6.13 the Disciples anointed many that were sick with oile and they were healed and St James in cap. 5.14 adviseth them to use oile with praier for the sick but it was no consecrated oile as the papists use Bellar. lib. 1. de extrem unct cap. 3. nor applied for remission of sins to seven parts of their body But you will say we in England at this time want right discipline I answer It is true yet the Church doth maintain it in her doctrines and constitutions but she cannot use it in those times when the shepherd is smitten and the sheep are scattered or else combined against him that they may live at their own liberty without correction by the rod of discipline yea libertinisme is grown to such a height that the disciplinarians themselves who envied the Bishops authority dare not exercise the Presbyterian virge lest they also follow the Bishops dejection Mathe. Might not a Nationall Councill set all right Phila. No doubt it might with Gods blessing so that it were called and impowred by authority and consisted of men orthodoxall and of just minds and of moderate temper who would make Gods