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church_n wherefore_o if_o we_o suppose_v that_o there_o be_v no_o one_o visible_a church_n who_o communion_n be_v not_o taint_v with_o some_o corruption_n though_o if_o these_o corruption_n be_v enjoin_v as_o condition_n of_o communion_n i_o can_v communicate_v with_o any_o of_o those_o church_n yet_o it_o follow_v not_o that_o i_o be_o separate_v from_o the_o external_a communion_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n but_o that_o i_o only_o suspend_v communion_n with_o those_o particular_a church_n till_o i_o may_v safe_o join_v with_o they_o as_o suppose_v all_o the_o particular_a man_n i_o can_v converse_v with_o be_v infect_v with_o leprosy_n my_o not_o associate_a with_o they_o do_v not_o imply_v that_o i_o be_o separate_v from_o the_o communion_n of_o all_o mankind_n but_o that_o i_o be_o loath_a to_o be_v infect_v as_o they_o be_v and_o therefore_o withdraw_v myself_o till_o i_o can_v meet_v with_o such_o healthful_a person_n with_o who_o i_o may_v safe_o associate_v again_o and_o 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erroneous_a particular_a church_n pag._n 336._o to_o rectify_v such_o gross_a mistake_n as_o these_o be_v for_o the_o future_a you_o will_v do_v well_o to_o understand_v that_o schism_n formal_o take_v always_o import_v something_o criminal_a in_o it_o and_o there_o can_v be_v no_o just_a cause_n for_o a_o sin_n but_o beside_o that_o there_o be_v that_o which_o if_o you_o understand_v it_o you_o will_v call_v the_o materiality_n of_o it_o which_o be_v the_o separation_n of_o one_o part_n of_o the_o church_n from_o another_o now_o this_o according_a to_o the_o different_a ground_n and_o reason_n of_o it_o become_v lawful_a or_o unlawful_a that_o be_v as_o the_o reason_n do_v make_v it_o necessary_a or_o unnecessary_a for_o separation_n be_v not_o lawful_a but_o when_o it_o be_v necessary_a now_o this_o be_v capable_a of_o such_o a_o different_a nature_n that_o it_o may_v be_v good_a or_o evil_n according_a to_o its_o circumstance_n there_o can_v be_v no_o absolute_a judgement_n pass_v upon_o it_o till_o all_o those_o reason_n and_o circumstance_n be_v due_o examine_v and_o if_o there_o be_v no_o sufficient_a ground_n for_o it_o then_o it_o be_v formal_o schism_n i._o e._n a_o culpable_a separation_n if_o there_o be_v sufficient_a cause_n then_o there_o may_v be_v a_o separation_n but_o it_o can_v be_v no_o schism_n and_o because_o the_o union_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n lie_v in_o fundamental_a and_o necessary_a truth_n therefore_o there_o can_v be_v no_o separation_n absolute_o from_o the_o catholic_n church_n but_o what_o involve_v in_o it_o the_o formal_a guilt_n of_o schism_n it_o be_v impossible_a any_o person_n shall_v have_v just_a cause_n to_o disow_v the_o church_n communion_n for_o any_o thing_n who_o beleif_n be_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n and_o whosoever_o do_v so_o thereby_o make_v himself_o no_o member_n of_o the_o church_n because_o the_o church_n subsist_v on_o the_o beleif_n of_o fundamental_a truth_n but_o in_o all_o such_o case_n wherein_o a_o division_n may_v be_v make_v and_o yet_o the_o several_a person_n divide_v retain_v the_o essential_o of_o a_o christian_a church_n the_o separation_n which_o may_v be_v among_o any_o such_o must_v be_v determine_v according_a to_o the_o cause_n of_o it_o for_o it_o be_v possible_a of_o one_o side_n that_o man_n out_o of_o capricious_a humour_n and_o fancy_n renounce_v the_o communion_n of_o a_o church_n which_o require_v nothing_o but_o what_o be_v just_a and_o reasonable_a and_o it_o be_v possible_a on_o the_o other_o side_n that_o a_o church_n call_v herself_o catholic_n may_v so_o far_o degenerate_a in_o faith_n and_o practice_n as_o not_o only_o to_o be_v guilty_a of_o great_a error_n and_o corruption_n but_o to_o impose_v they_o as_o condition_n of_o communion_n with_o she_o it_o be_v necessary_a where_o there_o be_v a_o manifest_a separation_n to_o inquire_v into_o the_o reason_n and_o ground_n of_o it_o and_o to_o determine_v the_o nature_n of_o it_o according_a to_o the_o justice_n of_o the_o cause_n which_o be_v plead_v for_o it_o page_n 357._o the_o catholic_n church_n therefore_o lie_v open_a and_o free_a like_o a_o common_a field_n to_o all_o inhabitant_n now_o if_o any_o particular_a number_n of_o these_o inhabitant_n shall_v agree_v together_o to_o enclose_v part_n of_o it_o without_o consent_n of_o the_o rest_n and_o not_o to_o admit_v any_o other_o to_o that_o right_n of_o common_a without_o consent_v to_o it_o which_o of_o these_o two_o party_n those_o who_o deny_v to_o yield_v their_o consent_n or_o such_o who_o deny_v their_o right_n if_o they_o will_v not_o be_v guilty_a of_o the_o violation_n of_o the_o public_a and_o common_a right_n of_o the_o place_n page_n 358._o although_o nothing_o separate_v a_o church_n proper_o from_o the_o catholic_n but_o what_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o be_v of_o it_o yet_o a_o church_n may_v separate_v herself_o from_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o catholic_n by_o take_v upon_o she_o to_o make_v such_o thing_n the_o necessary_a condition_n of_o her_o communion_n which_o never_o be_v the_o condition_n of_o communion_n with_o the_o catholic_n church_n page_n 359._o since_o it_o appear_v that_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n be_v free_a for_o many_o hundred_o year_n without_o approve_v or_o use_v these_o thing_n that_o church_n which_o shall_v not_o only_o public_o use_v but_o enjoin_v such_o thing_n upon_o pain_n of_o excommunication_n from_o the_o church_n do_v as_o much_o as_o in_o her_o lie_n draw_v the_o bound_n of_o catholic_n communion_n within_o herself_o and_o so_o divide_v herself_o from_o the_o true_a catholic_n church_n for_o whatever_o confine_n must_v likewise_o divide_v the_o church_n for_o by_o that_o confinement_n a_o separation_n be_v make_v between_o the_o part_n confine_v and_o the_o other_o which_o separation_n must_v be_v make_v by_o the_o party_n so_o limit_v communion_n as_o it_o be_v in_o the_o case_n of_o the_o donatist_n who_o be_v therefore_o 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separation_n as_o i_o do_v nor_o john_n fox_n nor_o bullinger_n who_o he_o cit_v we_o say_v the_o same_o sect._n 18._o the_o same_o i_o say_v of_o parker_n and_o gifford_n and_o i_o again_o tell_v he_o that_o he_o may_v name_v many_o more_o hildersham_n paget_n be_o etc._n etc._n i_o be_o of_o their_o judgement_n in_o their_o opposition_n to_o the_o brownist_n but_o it_o be_v a_o notorious_a untruth_n pag._n 33._o that_o the_o force_n of_o all_o the_o nonconformist_n reason_n against_o separation_n lay_v in_o two_o supposition_n 1._o that_o nothing_o can_v justify_v separation_n from_o our_o church_n but_o such_o corruption_n which_o overthrow_v the_o be_v and_o constitution_n of_o it_o etc._n etc._n and_o 1._o it_o must_v be_v remember_v that_o separation_n be_v a_o word_n of_o very_a many_o sense_n they_o hold_v indeed_o that_o none_o aught_o to_o separate_v from_o a_o church_n accuse_v it_o to_o be_v none_o but_o for_o that_o which_o prove_v it_o to_o be_v none_o 2._o but_o do_v 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p._n 36_o 37._o we_o also_o hold_v that_o whosoever_o separate_v from_o the_o church_n of_o england_n 1._o as_o have_v not_o that_o preach_a and_o sacrament_n which_o be_v of_o necessity_n to_o salvation_n 2._o or_o as_o not_o profess_v true_a save_a faith_n do_v by_o consequence_n separate_v from_o all_o church_n in_o the_o world_n because_o they_o have_v all_o the_o same_o word_n sacrament_n and_o christian_n faith_n and_o to_o this_o mr._n jacob_n argument_n be_v good_a p._n 38._o though_o he_o be_v the_o man_n that_o answer_v downam_n sermon_n for_o bishop_n and_o esteem_v one_o of_o the_o first_o independent_o and_o mr._n ball_n word_n to_o the_o same_o purpose_n and_o the_o second_o supposition_n p._n 39_o we_o grant_v and_o think_v very_o that_o the_o late_a conformist_n have_v say_v more_o against_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n than_o we_o yea_o that_o we_o be_v the_o defender_n of_o it_o against_o the_o brownist_n and_o they_o ball_n bradshaw_n gifford_n hildersham_n etc._n etc._n cite_v by_o he_o defend_v it_o as_o we_o do_v and_o better_a than_o such_o as_o dr._n heylin_n thorndike_n mr._n dodwel_n and_o such_o other_o do_v he_o think_v any_o of_o this_o concern_v i_o sect._n 20._o yes_o for_o p._n 74._o he_o say_v we_o will_v blind_v the_o reader_n by_o find_v out_o the_o disparity_n of_o some_o circumstance_n but_o not_o one_o of_o we_o can_v deny_v that_o it_o be_v their_o judgement_n that_o the_o hold_v separate_a congregation_n for_o worship_n where_o there_o be_v a_o agreement_n in_o doctrine_n and_o the_o substantial_o of_o religion_n be_v unlawful_a and_o schismatical_a answ_n it_o be_v pity_n so_o see_v a_o dr._n shall_v tempt_v man_n to_o be_v so_o blind_a 1._o as_o to_o think_v all_o the_o difference_n which_o i_o have_v name_v inconsiderable_a 2._o and_o to_o go_v on_o to_o
if_o in_o the_o begin_n of_o queen_n elizabeth_n reign_n when_o abundance_n of_o papist_n priest_n stay_v in_o the_o church_n for_o their_o benefice_n a_o man_n have_v quiet_o go_v from_o they_o to_o the_o nonconformist_n i_o can_v not_o blame_v he_o though_o he_o have_v not_o be_v sure_o that_o they_o be_v not_o change_v and_o i_o still_o say_v that_o if_o such_o err_v by_o too_o much_o care_n to_o avoid_v sin_n and_o save_v their_o soul_n 1._o it_o be_v a_o far_o great_a error_n to_o give_v they_o the_o occasion_n 2._o and_o in_o such_o as_o you_o to_o say_v that_o therefore_o they_o must_v be_v so_o far_o forsake_v as_o that_o none_o may_v preach_v to_o they_o if_o i_o may_v preach_v to_o no_o err_a people_n 1._o i_o must_v preach_v to_o none_o 2._o or_o be_v no_o physician_n to_o any_o that_o be_v sick_a and_o i_o must_v say_v that_o though_o i_o find_v no_o call_n to_o gather_v any_o together_o as_o a_o church_n and_o give_v they_o the_o sacrament_n i_o can_v say_v that_o no_o other_o have_v such_o unless_o i_o have_v hear_v they_o all_o speak_v for_o themselves_o yea_o i_o see_v such_o notorious_a need_n in_o many_o place_n that_o i_o dare_v not_o blame_v they_o sect._n 5._o and_o now_o reader_n qu._n whether_o the_o dr._n have_v true_o state_v the_o case_n between_o he_o and_o i_o and_o whether_o you_o can_v expect_v truth_n and_o edification_n in_o his_o handle_n of_o a_o false-stated_n case_n these_o be_v the_o question_n which_o as_o my_o accuser_n in_o his_o book_n he_o shall_v have_v handle_v have_v truth_n be_v his_o design_n 1._o whether_o for_o one_o that_o hold_v so_o much_o communion_n with_o their_o church_n as_o i_o have_v do_v and_o here_o describe_v it_o be_v sinful_a separation_n to_o preach_v in_o and_o communicate_v with_o the_o assembly_n of_o nonconformist_n or_o mix_v one_o as_o i_o have_v do_v 2._o whether_o to_o deny_v this_o to_o be_v sinful_a separation_n or_o separation_n as_o common_o take_v for_o schism_n be_v disingenuous_a and_o worse_o than_o they_o that_o open_o renounce_v their_o communion_n sect._n 6._o three_o thing_n he_o say_v p._n 94._o we_o can_v deny_v 1._o that_o there_o be_v no_o reason_n of_o separation_n because_o of_o thâ—_n doctrine_n of_o their_o church_n answ_n 1._o we_o distinguish_v of_o separation_n there_o be_v no_o reason_n to_o separate_v from_o you_o as_o no_o church_n or_o further_o than_o we_o do_v there_o be_v reason_n to_o deny_v our_o consent_n 1._o to_o your_o foresay_a doctrine_n of_o all_o baptize_v die_v infant_n undoubted_a salvation_n not_o except_v those_o of_o atheist_n and_o infidel_n 2._o to_o your_o include_v doctrine_n employ_v in_o your_o imposition_n viz._n that_o if_o a_o man_n have_v unlawful_o make_v a_o vow_n and_o oath_n to_o endeavour_v in_o his_o place_n and_o call_v to_o reform_v some_o corruption_n in_o church-government_n yea_o or_o to_o repent_v of_o his_o sin_n and_o oppose_v popery_n profaneness_n and_o schism_n there_o be_v no_o obligation_n on_o he_o from_o that_o oath_n and_o vow_n to_o do_v it_o these_o and_o such_o other_o doctrine_n we_o separate_v from_o so_o far_o as_o to_o reject_v they_o sect._n 7._o his_o second_o suppose_a concession_n be_v that_o there_o be_v no_o other_o reason_n of_o separation_n because_o of_o the_o term_n of_o our_o communion_n than_o what_o be_v from_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o reformation_n answ_n 1._o there_o be_v in_o my_o judgement_n no_o common_a reason_n for_o go_v further_o from_o you_o than_o we_o do_v nor_o to_o justify_v that_o which_o be_v common_o know_v by_o the_o name_n of_o separation_n but_o there_o be_v many_o and_o great_a reason_n to_o justify_v our_o measure_n of_o dissent_n and_o ministration_n and_o to_o say_v that_o we_o grant_v there_o be_v no_o more_o reason_n now_o than_o be_v then_o be_v too_o bold_a a_o untruth_n there_o be_v more_o reason_n 1._o from_o the_o quality_n of_o the_o thing_n impose_v 2._o from_o the_o design_n and_o drift_n of_o the_o imposition_n 3._o 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so_o swear_v be_v thus_o renounce_v by_o they_o who_o in_o a_o sort_n represent_v the_o parish_n church_n 2._o the_o act_n of_o uniformity_n have_v not_o then_o impose_v the_o same_o declarative_a renunciation_n of_o all_o such_o obligation_n on_o all_o the_o minister_n and_o schoolmaster_n in_o england_n as_o it_o now_o do_v 3._o the_o corporation_n act_n be_v not_o then_o in_o be_v which_o constitute_v all_o the_o officer_n in_o power_n in_o all_o city_n and_o corporation_n of_o such_o only_a as_o declare_v that_o there_o be_v no_o obligation_n from_o the_o say_a oath_n at_o all_o not_o except_v so_o much_o as_o the_o swear_a duty_n of_o oppose_a popery_n profaneness_n and_o schism_n to_o repent_v of_o sin_n and_o amend_v our_o life_n and_o if_o swear_v and_o vow_v against_o schism_n no_o whit_n bind_v man_n if_o the_o oath_n be_v but_o unlawful_o impose_v why_o shall_v the_o dr._n make_v so_o great_a a_o matter_n of_o it_o and_o think_v that_o his_o reason_n shall_v make_v man_n 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declare_v their_o assent_n and_o consent_v to_o all_o thing_n contain_v in_o and_o prescribe_v by_o the_o liturgy_n book_n of_o ordination_n though_o part_n of_o this_o be_v in_o a_o canon_n 7._o the_o false_a rule_n for_o find_v easter-day_n be_v not_o then_o to_o be_v assent_v and_o consent_v to_o as_o a_o condition_n of_o the_o ministry_n 8._o nor_o the_o new_a doctrine_n or_o article_n of_o faith_n of_o the_o undoubted_a certainty_n by_o god_n word_n that_o baptize_v die_a infant_n be_v save_v without_o any_o exception_n of_o the_o child_n of_o atheist_n etc._n etc._n for_o the_o old_a word_n at_o confirmation_n as_o many_o drs._n of_o the_o church_n have_v show_v only_o mean_v that_o nothing_o else_o be_v necessary_a on_o the_o church_n part_n that_o be_v not_o confirmation_n 9_o the_o word_n pastor_n as_o apply_v to_o parish_n minister_n distinct_a from_o curate_n be_v not_o then_o blot_v out_o of_o most_o place_n in_o the_o liturgy_n nor_o the_o twenty_o of_o act_n as_o apply_v to_o presbyter_n leave_v out_o take_v heed_n to_o yourselves_o and_o the_o flock_n etc._n etc._n in_o plain_a design_n to_o alter_v the_o office_n and_o parish_n church_n 10._o the_o oxford_n oath_n be_v not_o then_o impose_v to_o banish_v minister_n above_o five_o mile_n from_o all_o city_n and_o corporation_n and_o place_n where_o they_o have_v of_o late_a year_n preach_v so_o that_o their_o old_a flock_n or_o friend_n yea_o wife_n and_o child_n that_o can_v not_o follow_v they_o may_v not_o so_o much_o as_o see_v or_o hear_v such_o minister_n in_o their_o family_n or_o familiar_a converse_n that_o will_v have_v come_v to_o the_o public_a church_n and_o all_o nonconformist_a minister_n that_o take_v not_o the_o oath_n be_v thereby_o forbid_v to_o come_v to_o the_o parish_n church_n
far_o to_o heal_v we_o can_v we_o obtain_v it_o he_o say_v that_o any_o one_o that_o have_v see_v they_o know_v it_o to_o be_v a_o mistake_n to_o say_v it_o be_v publish_v by_o john_n fox_n ans_fw-fr his_o reader_n must_v be_v a_o strong_a believer_n and_o take_v much_o on_o his_o word_n 1._o i_o have_v see_v they_o and_o speak_v with_o man_n of_o great_a understanding_n that_o have_v see_v they_o that_o yet_o judge_v it_o no_o mistake_n 2._o the_o preface_n of_o the_o publisher_n be_v like_o his_o style_n 3._o it_o be_v call_v praefatio_fw-la i._n f._n and_o can_v every_o reader_n know_v that_o i._o f._n mean_v not_o john_n fox_n 4._o ordinary_a tradition_n say_v it_o be_v fox_n and_o what_o shall_v i_o soon_o believe_v in_o such_o a_o case_n instead_o of_o prove_v that_o they_o have_v all_o a_o power_n to_o their_o condemnation_n which_o we_o see_v they_o exercise_v not_o let_v he_o procure_v a_o real_a power_n declare_v and_o grant_v and_o it_o will_v do_v more_o than_o these_o word_n sect._n 23._o but_o when_o it_o come_v to_o the_o question_n whether_o i_o may_v so_o much_o as_o call_v a_o sinner_n to_o repentance_n by_o name_n before_o the_o church_n who_o reject_v all_o more_o private_a admonition_n he_o put_v the_o question_n whether_o the_o obligation_n to_o admonish_v public_o a_o offender_n or_o to_o deny_v he_o the_o sacrament_n if_o he_o will_v come_v to_o it_o be_v so_o great_a as_o to_o bear_v he_o out_o in_o the_o violation_n of_o a_o law_n make_v by_o public_a authority_n etc._n etc._n ans_fw-fr the_o first_o question_n be_v whether_o christ_n have_v not_o make_v his_o church_n so_o different_a a_o thing_n from_o the_o world_n that_o they_o shall_v be_v open_o difference_v by_o a_o communion_n of_o saint_n 2._o and_o whether_o he_o have_v not_o institute_v a_o office_n to_o judge_v of_o this_o and_o by_o government_n execute_v it_o and_o 3._o whether_o any_o man_n have_v authority_n to_o suspend_v this_o law_n or_o office_n and_o then_o 4._o i_o shall_v grant_v that_o not_o only_a discipline_n but_o preach_v and_o prayer_n and_o sacrament_n may_v be_v forbear_v hic_fw-la &_o nunc_fw-la in_o the_o present_a exercise_n when_o else_o the_o exercise_n will_v do_v more_o hurt_n than_o good_a 5._o but_o be_v these_o law_n good_a that_o forbid_v it_o and_o shall_v we_o covenant_n never_o to_o endeavour_v a_o alteration_n sect._n 24._o he_o next_o tell_v we_o of_o the_o great_a difficulty_n of_o exercise_v true_a discipline_n which_o be_v most_o true_a and_o seem_v thence_o to_o defend_v the_o forbearance_n of_o it_o with_o we_o answ_n i_o have_v in_o my_o treatise_n of_o episcopacy_n and_o oft_o prove_v that_o it_o be_v of_o great_a importance_n to_o christ_n end_n and_o that_o he_o will_v have_v it_o continue_v to_o the_o last_o and_o that_o the_o communion_n of_o saint_n be_v a_o practical_a article_n of_o faith_n and_o that_o make_v small_a difference_n between_o the_o church_n and_o the_o world_n tend_v to_o church_n 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