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B06703 The guide in controversies, or, A rational account of the doctrine of Roman-Catholicks concerning the ecclesiastical guide in controversies of religion reflecting on the later writings of Protestants, particularly of Archbishop Lawd and Dr. Stillingfleet on this subject. / By R.H. R. H., 1609-1678. 1667 (1667) Wing W3447A; ESTC R186847 357,072 413

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require_v unjust_a condition_n of_o their_o communion_n of_o which_o see_v before_o §_o 21._o 2._o §._o 63._o n._n 2._o and_o what_o st._n austin_n 118._o austin_n epist_n 118._o say_v of_o general_a church_n practice_n be_v as_o or_o more_o true_a of_o her_o doctrine_n si_fw-la quid_fw-la horum_fw-la per_fw-la orbem_fw-la frequent_a at_o or_o cred_a it_o ecclesia_fw-la hoc_fw-la quin_fw-la it_o a_o faciendum_fw-la or_o credendum_fw-la fit_a disputare_fw-la insolentissimae_fw-la insaniae_fw-la est_fw-la 2._o nor_o though_o this_o shall_v be_v grant_v and_o also_o that_o they_o excommunicate_v those_o that_o refuse_v to_o conform_v can_v they_o thereby_o become_v guilty_a of_o schism_n for_o 1_o schism_n i_o mean_v such_o as_o separate_v and_o divide_v from_o the_o catholic_n church_n can_v never_o be_v of_o a_o much_o major_n and_o more_o dignify_a part_n in_o respect_n of_o a_o less_o and_o inferior_a subject_a to_o it_o i._n e._n the_o main_a body_n be_v a_o schismatic_a from_o 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separatâ_fw-la will_v be_v fallacious_a and_o nothing_o worth_a meanwhile_o it_o be_v not_o here_o deny_v that_o the_o divide_v of_o one_o or_o several_a superior_n from_o a_o inferior_a part_n if_o it_o be_v for_o any_o thing_n wherein_o such_o part_n not_o they_o do_v agree_v with_o the_o whole_a may_v be_v schism_n but_o then_o that_o which_o make_v this_o schism_n be_v the_o departure_n of_o such_o superior_n from_o their_o superior_n or_o from_o the_o whole_a with_o which_o this_o part_n coheres_fw-la and_o when_o any_o superior_a make_v any_o such_o division_n from_o his_o subject_n he_o be_v no_o long_o their_o lawful_a su●eriour_n but_o that_o large_a body_n and_o those_o superior_n of_o he_o to_o which_o his_o subject_n be_v join_v and_o from_o which_o he_o divide_v 2_o again_o since_o schism_n be_v always_o a_o relinquish_a of_o and_o departure_n from_o the_o external_a and_o visible_a communion_n of_o the_o church_n these_o governor_n can_v be_v say_v to_o depart_v from_o that_o communion_n which_o they_o still_o retain_v in_o the_o same_o manner_n as_o former_o and_o which_o be_v the_o only_a visible_a communion_n of_o the_o church_n at_o the_o time_n of_o such_o excommunication_n external_n member_n of_o the_o church_n therefore_o they_o still_o remain_v and_o so_o no_o schismatic_n though_o all_o the_o same_o person_n or_o many_o of_o they_o by_o some_o other_o mortal_a sin_n may_v be_v at_o the_o same_o time_n no_o internal_a member_n of_o it_o 3._o and_o as_o they_o can_v be_v right_o call_v schismatic_n or_o person_n divide_v from_o the_o church-catholick_n 3._o §._o 63._o n._n 3._o so_o neither_o can_v such_o superior_n by_o impose_v some_o error_n on_o man_n belief_n or_o by_o inflict_v a_o unjust_a excommunication_n be_v therefore_o say_v to_o be_v the_o cause_n of_o a_o schism_n or_o a_o actual_a separation_n in_o other_o as_o they_o be_v often_o charge_v 133.142_o charge_v ap._n laud_n p._n 133.142_o unless_o to_o be_v excommunicate_v be_v such_o for_o the_o church_n concur_v to_o no_o other_o separation_n if_o any_o so_o excommunicate_v do_v not_o quiet_o submit_v thereto_o and_o acquiesce_v therein_o with_o patience_n but_o proceed_v so_o much_o further_o as_o to_o set_v up_o or_o join_v himself_o with_o a_o communion_n diverse_a from_o that_o of_o the_o former_a church_n which_o he_o be_v expel_v from_o or_o presume_v to_o exercise_v out_o of_o the_o church_n those_o ecclesiastical_a function_n which_o she_o have_v though_o wrongful_o suspend_v here_o indeed_o begin_v a_o faulty_a separation_n and_o a_o schism_n but_o by_o the_o fault_n of_o the_o excommunicate_v not_o of_o the_o church_n that_o unjust_o excommunicate_v he_o but_o do_v not_o thereby_o necessitate_v he_o to_o any_o such_o further_a removal_n or_o discession_n from_o it_o have_v he_o rest_v in_o the_o place_n where_o the_o church_n leave_v he_o the_o church_n have_v be_v faulty_a indeed_o he_o innocent_a but_o on_o no_o hand_n a_o schism_n and_o if_o he_o will_v not_o stay_v here_o but_o set_v up_o a_o anti-communion_n and_o fall_v on_o act_v against_o the_o church_n that_o expel_v he_o here_o he_o can_v defend_v the_o do_v a_o wrong_n because_o he_o have_v suffer_v one_o or_o just_o disburden_v on_o the_o church_n that_o fault_n of_o he_o to_o which_o no_o fault_n of_o they_o necessitate_v he_o saepe_fw-la sinit_fw-la divina_fw-la providentia_fw-la say_v st._n austin_n 6._o austin_n de_fw-fr verâ_fw-la religione_fw-la c._n 6._o expelli_fw-la de_fw-la congregatione_fw-la christianâ_fw-la etiam_fw-la bonos_fw-es viros_fw-la quam_fw-la contumeliam_fw-la vel_fw-la injuriam_fw-la svam_fw-la cum_fw-la patientissime_fw-la pro_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la pace_fw-la tulerint_fw-la neque_fw-la ullas_fw-la novitates_fw-la vel_fw-la shismatis_fw-la vel_fw-la haeresis_fw-la moliti_fw-la fuerint_fw-la docebunt_fw-la homines_fw-la quantâ_fw-la sinceritate_fw-la charitatis_fw-la deo_fw-la serviendum_fw-la sit_fw-la etc._n etc._n neque_fw-la ullas_fw-la novitates_fw-la vel_fw-la schismatis_fw-la therefore_o
with_o this_o reservation_n unless_o on_o the_o other_o side_n there_o appear_v evidence_n to_o he_o in_o god_n word_n now_o of_o the_o evidence_n of_o scripture_n in_o this_o point_n on_o his_o side_n that_o he_o have_v no_o doubt_n §_o 17._o the_o iii_o conference_n his_o plea_n for_o his_o not_o hold_v any_o thing_n contrary_a to_o the_o definition_n of_o lawful_a general_n council_n the_o just_a condition_n thereof_o observe_v §_o 18._o that_o he_o conceive_v he_o owe_v no_o obedience_n to_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a 1._o because_o this_o can_v be_v prove_v to_o have_v be_v a_o lawful_a general_n council_n with_o so_o much_o certainty_n as_o be_v necessary_a for_o the_o ground_n of_o his_o faith_n as_o appear_v by_o those_o many_o question_n mention_v by_o mr._n chilling-worth_n stillingfleet_n and_o other_o protestant_n wherein_o he_o must_v first_o be_v satisfy_v concern_v it_o which_o see_v disc_n 3._o §_o 86._o &c_n &c_n §_o 18._o 2._o because_o though_o it_o be_v a_o general_n council_n yet_o it_o may_v err_v even_o in_o necessary_n if_o it_o be_v not_o universal_o accept_v as_o he_o can_v show_v it_o be_v not_o 3._o that_o though_o yield_v to_o be_v general_o accept_v it_o may_v err_v still_o in_o non-necessaries_a and_o that_o protestant_n can_v prove_v this_o point_n to_o be_v otherwise_o 4._o that_o the_o leader_n of_o this_o council_n be_v plain_o a_o party_n contestingt_fw-fr his_o for_o many_o year_n before_o with_o the_o other_o side_n condemn_v and_o be_v judge_n in_o their_o own_o cause_n 5._o all_o these_o exception_n cancel_v and_o obedience_n grant_v due_a to_o this_o council_n yet_o that_o so_o there_o be_v due_a to_o it_o not_o that_o of_o assent_n but_o only_o of_o silence_n §_o 19_o 6._o but_o yet_o not_o that_o of_o silence_n neither_o from_o he_o consider_v his_o present_a persuasion_n that_o indeed_o the_o affirmative_a in_o this_o point_n be_v a_o error_n manifest_a and_o intolerable_a concern_v which_o matter_n his_o party_n have_v long_o complain_v to_o their_o superior_n and_o produce_v sufficient_a evidence_n yet_o these_o have_v proceed_v to_o no_o redress_n of_o it_o §_o 20._o 7._o but_o yet_o that_o he_o will_v submit_v to_o the_o judgement_n of_o a_o future_a council_n if_o it_o right_o consider_v the_o reason_n of_o his_o tenant_n decree_v that_o which_o be_v according_a to_o god_n word_n and_o he_o be_v convince_v thereof_o §_o 22._o the_o iv_o conference_n his_o plea_n for_o his_o not_o be_v guilty_a of_o heresy_n §_o 23._o that_o he_o can_v right_o according_a to_o protestant_a principle_n be_v accuse_v as_o guilty_a of_o heresy_n for_o several_a reason_n 1._o because_o protestant_n hold_v heresy_n to_o be_v a_o obstinate_a defence_n of_o some_o error_n against_o a_o fundamental_a he_o think_v from_o hence_o his_o tenant_n free_v from_o be_v a_o heresy_n as_o long_o as_o in_o silence_n he_o retain_v it_o unless_o he_o engage_v further_o to_o a_o public_a pertinacious_a maintain_v thereof_o §_o 23._o 2._o fundamental_o vary_v according_a to_o particular_a person_n and_o sufficient_a proposal_n none_o can_v conclude_v this_o point_n in_o the_o affirmative_a to_o be_v as_o to_o he_o a_o fundamental_a or_o of_o the_o truth_n which_o he_o have_v have_v a_o sufficient_a proposal_n 3._o that_o a_o lawful_a general_n council_n declare_v some_o point_n heresy_n do_v not_o necessary_o argue_v that_o it_o be_v so_o because_o they_o may_v err_v in_o fundamental_o or_o at_o least_o in_o distinguish_v they_o from_o other_o point_n §_o 26._o 4._o that_o he_o can_v have_v no_o autocatacrisie_n or_o obstinacy_n in_o a_o dissent_v from_o their_o definition_n till_o he_o be_v either_o actual_o convince_v or_o at_o least_o have_v have_v a_o sufficient_a proposal_n either_o of_o the_o truth_n of_o such_o point_n define_v or_o that_o such_o council_n have_v authority_n to_o require_v submission_n of_o judgement_n and_o assent_v to_o their_o definition_n of_o which_o conviction_n or_o sufficient_a proposal_n that_o vary_v much_o according_a to_o the_o differ_a condition_n of_o several_a person_n as_o to_o himself_o none_o can_v judge_v save_o himself_o and_o consequent_o neither_o can_v they_o judge_v of_o his_o guilt_n of_o heresy_n ib._n the_o v._o conference_n his_o plea_n for_o his_o not_o be_v guilty_a of_o schism_n §_o 28._o 1._o that_o the_o socinian_n church_n have_v not_o forsake_v the_o whole_a church_n catholic_n or_o the_o external_a communion_n of_o it_o but_o only_o leave_v one_o part_n of_o it_o that_o be_v corrupt_v and_o reform_v another_o part_n i._n e._n themselves_z or_o that_o he_o and_o the_o socinian_n church_n be_v a_o part_n of_o the_o catholic_n they_o have_v not_o separate_v from_o the_o whole_a because_o not_o from_o themselves_o §_o 28._o 2._o that_o their_o separation_n be_v for_o a_o error_n unjust_o impose_v upon_o they_o as_o a_o condition_n of_o communion_n the_o schism_n be_v not_o they_o who_o make_v the_o separation_n but_o they_o who_o cause_v it_o §_o 29._o beside_o that_o what_o ever_o the_o truth_n of_o thing_n be_v yet_o so_o long_o as_o they_o be_v require_v by_o any_o church_n to_o profess_v they_o believe_v what_o they_o do_v not_o their_o separation_n can_v be_v say_v causeless_a and_o so_o schism_n §_o 32._o 3._o that_o though_o he_o and_o his_o party_n have_v forsake_v the_o external_a communion_n of_o all_o other_o church_n yet_o not_o the_o internal_a in_o which_o they_o remain_v still_o unite_v to_o they_o both_o in_o that_o internal_a communion_n of_o charity_n in_o not_o condemn_v all_o other_o church_n as_o non-catholick_n and_o in_o that_o of_o faith_n in_o all_o essential_o and_o fundamental_o and_o in_o all_o such_o point_n wherein_o the_o unity_n of_o the_o church_n catholic_n consist_v §_o 30._o 4._o that_o the_o doctrine_n of_o consubstantiality_n for_o which_o they_o depart_v be_v deny_v by_o they_o to_o be_v any_o fundamental_a nor_o can_v the_o church_n from_o which_o they_o depart_v for_o it_o be_v a_o competent_a judge_n against_o they_o that_o it_o be_v so_o §_o 34._o 5._o that_o though_o they_o be_v separater_n from_o the_o roman_a yet_o not_o from_o the_o reform_a church_n which_o church_n leave_v man_n to_o the_o liberty_n of_o their_o own_o judgement_n nor_o require_v any_o internal_a assent_n to_o their_o doctrine_n in_o which_o thing_n these_o blame_n the_o tyranny_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n save_v only_o conditional_a if_o any_o be_v convince_v of_o the_o truth_n thereof_o or_o not_o convince_v of_o the_o contrary_n §_o 35._o 6._o in_o fine_a that_o for_o enjoy_v and_o continue_v in_o the_o protestant_a communion_n he_o make_v as_o full_a a_o profession_n of_o conformity_n to_o her_o doctrine_n as_o mr._n chillingworth_n have_v do_v in_o several_a place_n of_o his_o book_n which_o yet_o be_v accept_v as_o sufficient_a 〈◊〉_d 41._o the_o four_o discourse_n conference_n i._n the_o socinian_n protestant_a plea_n for_o his_o not_o hold_v any_o thing_n contrary_a to_o the_o holy_a scripture_n §_o 1_o that_o those_o thing_n which_o have_v be_v deliver_v in_o the_o three_o former_a discourse_n concern_v the_o invalidity_n of_o the_o protestant_n guide_v for_o preserve_v the_o true_a faith_n and_o suppress_v heresy_n may_v be_v clearly_o see_v and_o more_o serious_o consider_v i_o have_v think_v fit_a in_o this_o for_o a_o example_n to_o show_v what_o apology_n a_o socinian_n upon_o the_o forementioned_a protestant-position_n may_v return_v for_o himself_o to_o a_o protestant_a endeavour_v to_o reduce_v he_o to_o the_o true_a faith_n and_o use_v any_o of_o these_o five_o motive_n thereto_o the_o testimony_n 1._o of_o scripture_n 2._o of_o catholic_n church_n 3._o of_o her_o council_n 4._o the_o danger_n of_o heresy_n 5._o the_o danger_n of_o schism_n in_o which_o will_v not_o be_v think_v to_o go_v about_o to_o equal_v all_o other_o protestant-opinion_n to_o the_o malignity_n of_o the_o socinian_n error_n but_o only_o to_o show_v that_o several_a defence_n which_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o former_a motive_n protestant_n use_v for_o retain_v they_o if_o these_o be_v think_v just_a and_o reasonable_a the_o socinian_o may_v use_v the_o same_o for_o much_o grosser_n tenant_n for_o suppose_v a_o protestant_n first_fw-mi concern_v the_o scripture_n question_v a_o socinian_n in_o this_o manner_n prot._n why_o do_v you_o to_o the_o great_a danger_n of_o your_o soul_n and_o salvation_n not_o believe_v god_n the_o son_n to_o be_v of_o one_o and_o the_o same_o essence_n and_o substance_n with_o god_n the_o father_n it_o be_v so_o principal_a a_o article_n of_o the_o christian_a faith_n deliver_v in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n soc._n to_o give_v you_o a_o satisfactory_a account_n of_o this_o matter_n i_o do_v believe_v with_o other_o christian_n that_o the_o scripture_n be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o with_o other_o protestant_n that_o they_o be_v a_o perfect_a rule_n of_o
former_a council_n such_o as_o the_o church_n of_o precede_a age_n have_v receive_v as_o general_n or_o oblige_v as_o well_o those_o council_n since_o as_o those_o before_o the_o six_o or_o seven_o century_n which_o late_a the_o other_o party_n reject_v §_o 37._o chap._n 5._o the_o pretend_a security_n of_o those_o protestant_n who_o deny_v any_o certain_a live_a or_o personal_a guide_n infallible_a in_o necessary_n affirm_v 1._o that_o all_o necessary_a matter_n of_o faith_n be_v even_o to_o the_o unlearned_a clear_a in_o the_o scripture_n and_o the_o controversy_n in_o non-necessaries_a needless_a to_o be_v decide_v §_o 38._o 2._o that_o all_o necessary_n be_v clear_a in_o scripture_n because_o god_n have_v leave_v no_o other_o certain_a mean_n rule_n or_o guide_n for_o the_o knowledge_n of_o they_o save_o the_o scripture_n §_o 39_o n._n 1._o not_o any_o certain_a live_a guide_n 1._o which_o be_v infallible_a as_o their_o guide_n the_o scripture_n be_v §_o 39_o n._n 2._o 2._o which_o the_o unlearned_a in_o any_o division_n can_v discern_v from_o the_o false_a guide_n or_o know_v their_o decree_n better_o than_o the_o scripture_n 3._o from_o who_o the_o scripture_n direct_v they_o to_o learn_v necessary_n or_o tell_v they_o what_o church_n or_o party_n they_o be_v to_o adhere_v to_o in_o any_o schism_n make_v in_o which_o infallible_a guide_n if_o there_o be_v any_o such_o as_o be_v a_o thing_n of_o the_o great_a concernment_n the_o scripture_n will_v not_o have_v be_v silent_a ibid._n reply_n 1._o that_o evidence_n of_o the_o scripture_n have_v be_v the_o usual_a plea_n of_o former_a heretic_n in_o their_o dissent_v from_o the_o church_n §_o 40._o n._n 1._o 2._o that_o as_o to_o the_o main_a and_o principal_a article_n of_o the_o christian_a faith_n the_o sufficiency_n of_o the_o rule_n of_o scripture_n be_v not_o deny_v by_o roman_a catholic_n but_o only_o the_o clearness_n thereof_o as_o to_o all_o man_n capacity_n question_v and_o another_o guide_n hold_v necessary_a §_o 40._o n._n 2._o it_o be_v reply_v then_o 1._o concern_v the_o clearness_n of_o scripture_n 1_o that_o some_o controversy_n in_o religion_n since_o the_o write_n of_o the_o scripture_n have_v be_v concern_v point_n necessary_a as_o those_o controversy_n concern_v the_o trinity_n the_o deity_n and_o humanity_n of_o our_o lord_n the_o necessity_n of_o god_n grace_n etc._n etc._n §_o 41._o 2._o that_o the_o more_o clear_a all_o necessary_n be_v in_o scripture_n still_o with_o the_o more_o security_n may_v christian_n rely_v for_o they_o on_o the_o church_n judgement_n from_o which_o also_o they_o receive_v these_o scripture_n §_o 42._o 3._o that_o there_o be_v no_o necessity_n that_o all_o necessary_n shall_v be_v reveal_v in_o scripture_n as_o to_o all_o man_n clear_o 1._o because_o it_o be_v sufficient_a if_o god_n have_v leave_v this_o one_o point_n clear_a in_o scripture_n that_o we_o shall_v in_o all_o difficulty_n and_o obscurity_n of_o they_o follow_v the_o direction_n and_o adhere_v to_o the_o exposition_n and_o doctrine_n of_o these_o guide_n §_o 43._o 2._o sufficient_a if_o god_n have_v by_o other_o apostolical_a tradition_n at_o least_o clear_o reveal_v to_o these_o church-guide_n all_o such_o necessary_a truth_n to_o be_v successive_o communicate_v by_o they_o to_o his_o people_n §_o 44._o 3._o sufficient_a if_o god_n have_v by_o tradition_n at_o least_o clear_o reveal_v to_o these_o church-guide_n the_o sense_n of_o such_o scripture_n as_o be_v in_o point_n necessary_a any_o way_n obscure_a ibid._n 4._o sufficient_a if_o god_n in_o the_o scripture_n have_v clear_o enough_o reveal_v all_o necessary_a truth_n to_o the_o capacity_n of_o these_o church-guide_n use_v due_a mean_n though_o he_o have_v not_o to_o the_o capacity_n of_o the_o unlearned_a for_o from_o those_o these_o may_v learn_v they_o §_o 45._o ii_o concern_v a_o live_a guide_n 1._o that_o where_o the_o scripture_n especial_o several_a text_n compare_v be_v ambiguous_a and_o in_o controversy_n the_o christian_n guide_n to_o know_v the_o true_a sense_n can_v be_v the_o scripture_n but_o either_o the_o church_n or_o their_o own_o judgement_n §_o 46._o n._n 1._o 2._o that_o it_o be_v not_o necessary_a that_o god_n in_o the_o scripture_n shall_v direct_v christian_n to_o what_o guide_n they_o be_v to_o repair_v §_o 46._o n._n 2._o or_o to_o what_o church_n prelate_n or_o party_n in_o any_o schism_n christian_n for_o ever_o ought_v to_o adhere_v §_o 47._o n._n 2._o 3._o yet_o that_o god_n have_v give_v christian_n a_o sufficient_a direction_n herein_o in_o his_o leave_v a_o due_a subordination_n among_o these_o governor_n whereby_o the_o inferior_n be_v subject_v to_o the_o superior_a and_o a_o par●_n unto_o the_o whole_a §_o 47._o n._n 3._o and_o that_o christian_n may_v more_o clear_o know_v the_o sense_n of_o their_o definition_n in_o matter_n controvert_v than_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o scripture_n §_o 48._o the_o three_o discourse_n examine_v what_o measure_n of_o obedience_n be_v due_a to_o these_o guide_n and_o to_o the_o supreme_a ecclesiastical_a judge_n of_o controversy_n the_o content_n chap._n 1._o roman_n catholic_n and_o protestant_n do_v agree_v 1._o that_o the_o scripture_n speak_v of_o those_o book_n by_o the_o protestant_n style_v canonical_a be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n §_o 1._o 2._o that_o in_o these_o scripture_n agree_v on_o it_o be_v clear_o declare_v that_o the_o church_n catholic_n of_o no_o age_n shall_v err_v in_o necessary_n §_o 2._o 3._o that_o the_o church_n catholic_n be_v contradistinct_a to_o heretical_a and_o schismatical_a church_n §_o 4._o 4._o that_o christ_n have_v leave_v in_o his_o church_n pastor_n and_o teacher_n to_o keep_v it_o from_o be_v toss_v to_o and_o fro_o and_o carry_v about_o with_o every_o wind_n of_o doctrine_n §_o 5._o chap._n 2._o catholic_n go_v on_o and_o affirm_v 5._o that_o the_o church_n guide_v at_o least_o assemble_v in_o lawful_a general_n council_n shall_v never_o err_v in_o their_o determine_a thing_n of_o necessary_a faith_n §_o 6._o 6._o shall_v never_o err_v in_o necessary_n not_o take_v for_o those_o that_o be_v absolute_o require_v but_o for_o all_o that_o be_v very_o beneficial_a to_o salvation_n §_o 9_o 7._o shall_v never_o err_v in_o they_o not_o as_o infalliblly_v inspire_v to_o teach_v any_o new_a but_o as_o divine_o assist_v in_o deliver_v of_o the_o former_a revelation_n and_o tradition_n wherein_o they_o affirm_v that_o the_o church_n of_o all_o age_n since_o the_o apostle_n be_v for_o ever_o preserve_v equal_o infallible_a §_o 10._o 8._o that_o for_o know_v what_o or_o how_o many_o of_o former_a council_n have_v be_v lawful_o general_n and_o oblige_v a_o christian_a may_v safe_o rely_v on_o the_o general_n judgement_n of_o the_o church_n since_o the_o sit_v of_o such_o council_n §_o 11._o 9_o that_o in_o the_o absence_n of_o a_o considerable_a part_n of_o the_o church-governor_n from_o some_o council_n yet_o their_o acceptance_n of_o its_o decree_n or_o concurrence_n with_o its_o doctrine_n render_v it_o equivalent_a to_o a_o council_n general_n §_o 13._o 10._o that_o particular_a person_n or_o church_n part_n of_o the_o whole_a be_v oblige_v to_o submit_v their_o judgement_n and_o yield_v their_o assent_n to_o the_o definition_n of_o the_o whole_a §_o 14._o chap._n 3_o 11._o that_o whatever_o particular_a person_n or_o church_n hold_v the_o contrary_a to_o any_o know_a definition_n pass_v in_o a_o matter_n of_o faith_n of_o any_o lawful_a general_n council_n be_v heretical_a §_o 16._o 12._o that_o any_o particular_a person_n or_o church_n which_o for_o any_o cause_n whatever_o do_v actual_o relinquish_v and_o separate_v from_o the_o external_a communion_n of_o the_o present_a church_n catholic_n be_v schismatical_a §_o 20._o 13._o but_o yet_o that_o several_a person_n or_o church_n coordinate_a may_v without_o schism_n differ_v in_o any_o thing_n opinion_n or_o practice_v wherein_o they_o be_v not_o oblige_v to_o accord_v by_o their_o common_a superior_n or_o by_o the_o whole_a §_o 23._o chap._n 4._o but_o protestant_n after_o the_o four_o first_o proposition_n concede_v in_o some_o sense_n do_v thus_o endeavour_v to_o qualify_v and_o restrain_v they_o 5._o in_o grant_v the_o catholic_n church_n in_o all_o age_n unerrable_a in_o necessary_n they_o understand_v only_o such_o few_o necessary_n without_o the_o explicit_a belief_n of_o which_o salvation_n can_v be_v attain_v §_o 24._o 6._o therefore_o also_o they_o affirm_v that_o though_o the_o church_n catholic_n can_v err_v in_o such_o point_n absolute_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n yet_o it_o or_o all_o particular_a church_n in_o some_o one_o age_n or_o age_n may_v in_o other_o the_o error_n wherein_o be_v dangerous_a to_o salvation_n gross_a damnable_a etc._n etc._n §_o 25._o because_o it_o appear_v that_o many_o of_o the_o chief_a point_n from_o which_o protestant_n dissent_v be_v general_a tenant_n and_o practice_n
laity_n which_o be_v the_o only_a church_n catholic_n the_o pillar_n and_o ground_n of_o truth_n and_o the_o visible_a external_a communion_n thereof_o to_o be_v continue_v in_o see_v his_o instit_fw-la 4_o l._n 1._o c._n 2._o §_o upon_o the_o article_n credo_fw-la sanctam_fw-la catholicam_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la '_o ecclesia_fw-la say_v he_o ideò_fw-la catholica_fw-la dicitur_fw-la seu_fw-la universalis_fw-la quia_fw-la non_fw-la dvas_fw-la aut_fw-la tres_fw-la invenire_fw-la liceat_fw-la quin_fw-la discerpatur_fw-la christus_fw-la quod_fw-la fieri_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la 4_o §_o in_o symbolo_fw-la ubi_fw-la profitemur_fw-la nos_fw-la credere_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la id_fw-la non_fw-la solùm_fw-la ad_fw-la visibilem_fw-la de_fw-la quâ_fw-la nunc_fw-la agimus_fw-la refertur_fw-la sed_fw-la ad_fw-la omnes_fw-la quoque_fw-la electos_fw-la dei_fw-la therefore_o this_o article_n relate_v to_o a_o church_n visible_a and_o visible_a in_o all_o age_n quia_fw-la nunc_fw-la de_fw-la visibili_fw-la ecclesiâ_fw-la disserere_fw-la propositum_fw-la est_fw-la discamus_fw-la vel_fw-la uno_fw-la matris_fw-la that_o it_o be_v term_v a_o mother_n elogio_fw-la quam_fw-la utilis_fw-la sit_fw-la nobis_fw-la ejus_fw-la cognitio_fw-la immo_fw-la necessaria_fw-la quando_fw-la non_fw-la alius_fw-la est_fw-la in_o vitam_fw-la ingressus_fw-la nisi_fw-la nos_fw-la ipsa_fw-la concipiat_fw-la in_o utero_fw-la nisi_fw-la pariat_fw-la etc._n etc._n add_v quod_fw-la extra_fw-la ejus_fw-la gremium_fw-la nulla_fw-la speranda_fw-la est_fw-la peccatorum_fw-la remissio_fw-la etc._n etc._n such_o a_o visible_a mother-church_n than_o it_o seem_v there_o be_v in_o all_o age_n some_o where_o or_o other_o as_o that_o none_o can_v enter_v into_o life_n that_o be_v not_o number_v among_o her_o child_n and_o enclose_v within_o her_o bosom_n 7._o §_o quemadmodum_fw-la ergo_fw-la nobis_fw-la invisibilem_fw-la solius_fw-la dei_fw-la oculis_fw-la conspicuam_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la credere_fw-la necesse_fw-la est_fw-la ita_fw-la hanc_fw-la quae_fw-la respectu_fw-la hominum_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la dicitur_fw-la observare_fw-la ejusque_fw-la communionem_fw-la colere_fw-la jubemur_fw-la i.e._n communionem_fw-la externam_fw-la visibilem_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la visibilis_fw-la 10._o §_o cujus_fw-la authoritatem_fw-la spernere_fw-la vel_fw-la castigationes_fw-la ludere_fw-la nemini_fw-la impunè_fw-la licet_fw-la &_o multo_fw-la minus_fw-la ejus_fw-la abrumpere_fw-la unitatem_fw-la authoritatem_fw-la castigationes_fw-la he_o must_v mean_v of_o the_o clergy_n and_o the_o spiritual_a governor_n thereof_o sic_fw-la enim_fw-la dominus_fw-la ejus_fw-la authoritatem_fw-la commendat_fw-la ut_fw-la dum_fw-la illa_fw-la violatur_fw-la svam_fw-la ipsius_fw-la imminutam_fw-la censeat_fw-la neque_fw-la enim_fw-la parvi_fw-la momenti_fw-la est_fw-la quod_fw-la voco_fw-la columna_fw-la &_o firmamentum_fw-la veritatis_fw-la &_o domus_fw-la dei._n quibus_fw-la verbis_fw-la significat_fw-la paulus_n ne_fw-la intercidat_fw-la veritas_fw-la dei_fw-la in_o mundo_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la visibilem_fw-la esse_fw-la fidam_fw-la ejus_fw-la custodem_fw-la and_o that_o in_o all_o age_n else_o intercideret_fw-la veritas_fw-la quia_fw-la ejus_fw-la ministerio_fw-la &_o operâ_fw-la voluit_fw-la deus_fw-la puram_fw-la verbi_fw-la svi_fw-la praedicationem_fw-la conservari_fw-la vnde_fw-la sequitur_fw-la discessionem_fw-la ab_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la dei_fw-la &_o christi_fw-la abnegationem_fw-la esse_fw-la 8._o §_o proinde_fw-la quatenus_fw-la eam_fw-la agnoscere_fw-la nostrâ_fw-la intererat_fw-la dominus_fw-la certis_fw-la notis_fw-la &_o quasi_fw-la symbolis_fw-la nobis_fw-la designavit_fw-la 10._o §_o symbola_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la dignoscendae_fw-la verbi_fw-la praedicationem_fw-la sinceram_fw-la sacramentorumque_fw-la observationem_fw-la ex_fw-la christi_fw-la instituto_fw-la see_v §_o 9_o posuimus_fw-la 11._o §_o ne_fw-fr sub_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la titulo_fw-la impostura_fw-la nobis_fw-la 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also_o afterward_o c._n 4._o in_o all_o age_n he_o acknowledge_v a_o church_n that_o not_o as_o a_o chest_n preserve_v only_o the_o truth_n as_o a_o hide_a treasure_n but_o as_o a_o pillar_n by_o public_a profession_n notwithstanding_o all_o force_n endeavour_v to_o shake_v it_o publish_v it_o to_o the_o world_n and_o stay_v the_o weakness_n of_o other_o etc._n etc._n chap._n vi_o iu._n learned_a protestant_n concede_v the_o former_a church_n clergy_n precede_v the_o reformation_n never_o so_o to_o have_v err_v in_o define_v necessary_n as_o that_o the_o church_n govern_v by_o they_o do_v not_o remain_v still_o true_a holy_a and_o catholic_n §_o 41._o §_o 41_o iu._n suitable_o to_o their_o concession_n set_v down_o in_o the_o last_o chapter_n these_o learned_a protestant_n do_v not_o assume_v the_o confidence_n to_o pronounce_v catholic_n iv_o 4._o learned_a protestant_n concede_v the_o former_a church_n clergy_n precede_v the_o reformation_n never_o to_o have_v so_o err_v in_o define_v necessary_n as_o that_o the_o church_n govern_v by_o they_o do_v not_o still_o remain_v true_a holy_a catholic_n the_o joint_a body_n of_o the_o governor_n of_o any_o precedent_a age_n of_o the_o church_n how_o corrupt_a soever_o they_o have_v be_v in_o their_o conciliary_a definition_n to_o have_v err_v or_o to_o have_v mislead_v the_o people_n in_o necessary_n essential_o or_o fundamental_o of_o religion_n whether_o in_o respect_n of_o faith_n or_o holiness_n notwithstanding_o that_o they_o have_v place_v in_o these_o very_a time_n the_o reign_n of_o antichrist_n whence_o it_o may_v be_v presume_v that_o the_o church_n shall_v not_o see_v nor_o suffer_v hereafter_o worse_a time_n than_o those_o past_a and_o that_o all_o these_o governor_n in_o any_o succeed_a age_n shall_v not_o miss-guide_a the_o people_n in_o necessary_n or_o fundamental_o who_o in_o the_o time_n of_o antichrist_n they_o have_v not_o mislead_v so_o therefore_o bishop_n bramhall_n 345._o bramhall_n vindic._n 2_o c._n p._n 8._o reply_n to_o chalcedon_n p._n 345._o hold_v the_o present_a roman_a a_o true_a part_n of_o the_o present_a church_n catholic_n and_o frequent_o affirm_v the_o reform_a as_o to_o essentitials_n in_o faith_n not_o to_o have_v separate_v from_o it_o and_o dr._n potter_n speak_v thus_o of_o the_o present_a roman_a church_n 63._o church_n §._o 3._o p._n 63._o the_o most_o necessary_a and_o fundamental_a truth_n which_o constitute_v a_o church_n be_v on_o both_o side_n unquestioned_a and_o for_o that_o reason_n learned_a protestant_n yield_v they_o the_o roman_a the_o naeme_n and_o substance_n of_o a_o true_a church_n dr._n field_n also_o 880._o also_o des_fw-mi 3._o pt_n p._n 880._o thus_o apologize_v for_o this_o tenent_n at_o least_o for_o the_o time_n before_o luther_n because_o some_o man_n perhaps_o will_v think_v that_o we_o yield_v more_o unto_o our_o adversary_n now_o than_o former_o we_o do_v in_o that_o we_o acknowledge_v the_o latin_a or_o western_a church_n subject_n to_o romish_a tyranny_n before_o god_n raise_v up_o luther_n to_o have_v be_v the_o true_a church_n of_o god_n in_o which_o a_o save_a profession_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o christ_n be_v find_v i_o will_v 1_o show_v that_o all_o our_o best_a and_o most_o renown_a divine_n do_v ever_o acknowledge_v as_o much_o as_o i_o have_v write_v and_o so_o he_o proceed_v to_o urge_v several_a authority_n to_o confirm_v it_o and_o thus_o mr._n thorndike_n 416._o thorndike_n epilog_n conclusion_n p._n 416._o say_v though_o i_o sincere_o blame_v the_o impose_v new_a article_n upon_o the_o faith_n of_o christian_n and_o that_o of_o position_n §_o 42_o which_o i_o maintain_v not_o to_o be_v true_a yet_o i_o must_v and_o do_v free_o profess_v that_o i_o find_v no_o position_n necessary_a to_o salvation_n prohibit_v none_o destructive_a to_o salvation_n enjoin_v to_o be_v believe_v by_o it_o the_o roman_a church_n and_o therefore_o i_o must_v necessary_o accept_v it_o for_o a_o true_a church_n as_o in_o the_o church_n of_o england_n i_o have_v always_o know_v it_o accept_v see_v there_o can_v no_o question_n be_v make_v that_o it_o continue_v the_o same_o visible_a body_n by_o the_o succession_n of_o pastor_n and_o law_n that_o first_o be_v found_v by_o the_o apostle_n the_o present_a custom_n that_o be_v in_o force_n be_v visible_o the_o corruption_n of_o those_o custom_n which_o the_o church_n have_v from_o the_o beginning_n i_o suppose_v he_o mean_v be_v the_o same_o custom_n which_o the_o church_n have_v from_o the_o beginning_n though_o in_o some_o manner_n corrupt_v for_o the_o idolatry_n which_o i_o grant_v to_o be_v possible_a though_o not_o necessary_a to_o be_v find_v in_o it_o by_o the_o ignorance_n and_o carnal_a affection_n of_o particular_n not_o by_o command_n of_o the_o church_n or_o the_o law_n of_o it_o i_o do_v not_o admit_v to_o destroy_v the_o salvation_n of_o those_o who_o live_v in_o the_o communion_n of_o this_o church_n be_v not_o guilty_a of_o the_o like_a there_o remain_v therefore_o in_o the_o present_a church_n of_o rome_n the_o profession_n of_o all_o the_o truth_n which_o it_o be_v necessary_a to_o the_o salvation_n of_o all_o christian_n to_o believe_v either_o in_o point_n of_o faith_n or_o manner_n so_o he_o say_v concern_v prayer_n to_o saint_n that_o those_o who_o admit_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o commit_v idolatry_n therein_o can_v by_o no_o mean_n grant_v it_o to_o be_v a_o church_n the_o very_a be_v whereof_o suppose_v the_o worship_n of_o one_o god_n exclusive_a to_o any_o thing_n else_o and_o l._n 3._o c._n 23_o concern_v communion_n in_o one_o kind_n he_o say_v that_o they_o in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n who_o thirst_n after_o the_o eucharist_n in_o both_o kind_n do_v receive_v the_o whole_a grace_n of_o this_o sacrament_n in_o the_o one_o kind_n be_v necessary_a to_o be_v believe_v by_o all_o who_o believe_v that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n remain_v a_o church_n though_o corrupt_v and_o that_o 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himself_o in_o say_v 224._o say_v apol._n 3_o par_fw-fr p._n 880._o &_o append_v 3_o l._n p._n 187_o 224._o that_o this_o roman_a church_n be_v not_o the_o same_o now_o as_o it_o be_v when_o luther_n begin_v nor_o the_o external_a face_n of_o religion_n then_o the_o now_o profess_a roman_a religion_n and_o further_o 880._o further_o p._n 880._o that_o the_o error_n of_o the_o present_a roman_a church_n be_v fundamental_a where_o it_o be_v observable_a 1_o that_o the_o discession_n of_o protestant_n in_o luther_n time_n or_o of_o luther_n himself_o from_o that_o church_n which_o be_v not_o the_o same_o as_o he_o say_v then_o as_o now_o nor_o the_o error_n which_o protestant_n now_o condemn_v than_o the_o doctrine_n of_o it_o but_o of_o a_o faction_n in_o it_o remain_v by_o this_o still_o culpable_a for_o none_o may_v desert_v the_o communion_n of_o a_o church_n because_o of_o the_o corrupt_a doctrine_n or_o practice_n of_o a_o faction_n in_o it_o but_o if_o he_o make_v the_o clergy_n 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broacher_n of_o these_o tenant_n suppose_v of_o a_o substantial_a conversion_n in_o the_o eucharist_n saint-invocation_n veneration_n of_o image_n a_o purgatory_n of_o soul_n after_o this_o life_n monastic_a vow_n sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n etc._n etc._n condemn_v for_o heresy_n in_o ecumenical_a council_n or_o a_o continual_a disapprobation_n of_o those_o doctrine_n by_o the_o christian_a church_n of_o all_o age_n as_o be_v clear_a in_o the_o case_n of_o arrius_n and_o pelagius_n or_o the_o church_n by_o any_o evident_a act_n declare_v her_o dislike_n of_o they_o as_o may_v on_o the_o other_o side_n be_v show_v many_o evident_a act_n of_o her_o approbation_n of_o they_o and_o 2_o if_o no_o danger_n of_o perish_v for_o heresy_n or_o schism_n to_o those_o live_n and_o die_v in_o this_o communion_n before_o 1._o §._o 50._o n._n 1._o then_o neither_o to_o any_o since_o luther_n time_n for_o if_o since_o these_o time_n this_o communion_n be_v become_v heretical_a or_o schismatical_a i_o demand_v in_o respect_n of_o what_o council_n or_o what_o definition_n make_v since_o luther_n day_n which_o it_o oppose_v be_v it_o become_v heretical_a or_o in_o respect_n of_o what_o church_n in_o desert_v or_o depart_v from_o its_o communion_n schismatical_a or_o in_o the_o protestant_n notion_n of_o heresy_n and_o schism_n in_o respect_n of_o what_o new_a tenent_n or_o practise_v against_o some_o fundamental_a point_n of_o faith_n since_o luther_n time_n be_v it_o become_v heretical_a when_o guilty_a of_o none_o such_o before_o and_o in_o its_o require_v of_o conformity_n to_o what_o new_a point_n of_o faith_n since_o luther_n time_n be_v it_o become_v schismatical_a so_o that_o one_o that_o can_v lawful_o yield_v obedience_n to_o all_o those_o require_v before_o luther_n appearance_n yet_o can_v to_o all_o the_o present_a or_o so_o that_o the_o church_n before_o luther_n may_v lawful_o require_v without_o hazard_n of_o schism_n conformity_n to_o its_o whole_a faith_n then_o and_o 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council_n of_o florence_n the_o lateran_n and_o five_o other_o before_o it_o whereinis_fw-la berengarius_fw-la his_o doctrine_n be_v condemn_v veneration_n of_o image_n in_o the_o 2_o nicene_n council_n monastic_a vow_n and_o celibacy_n of_o the_o clergy_n sufficient_o authorize_v in_o the_o four_o first_o general_n council_n and_o to_o these_o i_o may_v add_v the_o council_n of_o frankfort_n if_o the_o capitulare_fw-la caroli_n which_o indeed_o be_v write_v before_o may_v be_v take_v to_o deliver_v the_o sense_n of_o the_o council_n *_o for_o adoration_n of_o christ_n body_n and_o blood_n in_o the_o eucharist_n the_o council_n apply_v the_o psalmist_n adorate_fw-la scabellum_fw-la thereto_o as_o it_o be_v expound_v by_o s._n ambrose_n 24_o ambrose_n ibid._n 4.15_o l._n 3._o c._n 24_o and_o s._n austin_n 12._o austin_n de_fw-fr spiritu_fw-la sancto_fw-la l._n 3._o c._n 12._o and_o for_o veneration_n of_o the_o cross_n 17_o cross_n capitulare_fw-la l._n 2._o c._n 5._o c._n 27._o l._n 4._o c._n 17_o and_o of_o relic_n ‖_o only_a the_o adoration_n of_o image_n allow_v by_o the_o second_o nicene_n council_n indeed_o be_v condemn_v but_o this_o upon_o a_o mistake_n of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o that_o council_n as_o be_v confess_v by_o dr._n hammond_n treatise_n of_o idolatry_n §_o 57_o and_o by_o mr_n thornd●ke_v epilogue_n l._n 3._o p._n 363._o and_o as_o any_o one_o may_v easy_o discern_v if_o he_o will_v view_v in_o the_o preface_n of_o this_o capitulare_fw-la what_o opinion_n be_v impute_v by_o the_o father_n of_o franckfort_n to_o those_o of_o nice_a beside_o these_o council_n invocation_n of_o saint_n prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n and_o several_a other_o be_v apparent_a in_o the_o public_a liturgy_n of_o the_o church_n unaltered_a protestant_n be_v judge_n for_o many_o age_n precede_v the_o council_n of_o trent_n now_o the_o church_n oblige_v her_o subject_n to_o believe_v all_o those_o thing_n lawful_a which_o in_o her_o liturgy_n she_o 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46._o n._n 2._o or_o to_o what_o church-prelate_n or_o party_n in_o any_o schism_n christian_n for_o ever_o ought_v to_o adhere_v §_o 47._o n._n 2._o 3._o yet_o that_o god_n have_v give_v christian_n a_o sufficient_a direction_n herein_o in_o his_o leave_v a_o due_a subordination_n among_o these_o governor_n whereby_o the_o inferior_n be_v subject_v to_o the_o superior_a and_o a_o part_n unto_o the_o whole_a §_o 47._o n._n 3._o and_o that_o christian_n may_v more_o clear_o know_v the_o sense_n of_o their_o definition_n in_o matter_n controvert_v than_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o scripture_n §_o 48._o the_o second_o discourse_n chap._n i._n protestant_n assent_v 1._o that_o there_o be_v at_o this_o present_a a_o one_o holy_a catholic_n and_o apostolic_a church_n §_o 1._o 2._o that_o the_o present_a pastor_n and_o governor_n thereof_o have_v authority_n to_o decide_v controversy_n §_o 2._o 3._o and_o that_o their_o governor_n shall_v never_o err_v or_o misguide_a christian_n at_o least_o 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23._o in_o the_o which_o the_o pure_a word_n of_o god_n be_v preach_v preach_v i_o suppose_v by_o its_o minister_n in_o all_o those_o thing_n that_o of_o necessity_n be_v requisite_a to_o the_o same_o church_n or_o congregation_n of_o the_o faithful_a and_o indeed_o otherwise_o either_o the_o first_o proposition_n a_o part_n of_o our_o creed_n will_v be_v false_a because_o since_o the_o people_n be_v oblige_v to_o the_o faith_n of_o these_o their_o governor_n heb._n 13.7_o eph._n 4.11_o compare_v 14._o the_o whole_a church_n will_v thus_o err_v in_o necessary_n and_o so_o will_v cease_v to_o be_v catholic_n or_o at_o least_o the_o catholic_n church_n in_o such_o deficiency_n of_o the_o clergy_n will_v be_v constitute_v whole_o of_o laic_n and_o of_o christ_n sheep_n without_o pastor_n save_o those_o who_o sacrament_n and_o communion_n as_o fall_v away_o from_o the_o catholic_n church_n in_o fundamental_o be_v unlawful_a which_o seem_v very_o absurd_a and_o contrary_a to_o the_o 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and_o no_o distinct_a on_o be_v make_v aught_o to_o be_v believe_v in_o all_o they_o propose_v §_o 15._o yet_o thae_fw-la they_o do_v both_o distinguish_v and_o propose_v as_o such_o all_o those_o more_o necessary_a point_n which_o it_o be_v requisite_a for_o all_o christian_n more_o particular_o and_o explicit_o to_o believe_v §_o 17._o 8._o that_o christian_n submit_v to_o their_o judgement_n in_o decide_v necessary_n aught_o also_o to_o submit_v to_o the_o same_o in_o their_o declare_v the_o sense_n of_o father_n definition_n of_o council_n etc._n etc._n touch_v the_o same_o matter_n §_o 19_o 9_o that_o suppose_v these_o guide_n tr_fw-la err_v in_o some_o of_o their_o decision_n yet_o their_o subject_n by_o the_o concession_n of_o learned_a protestant_n ought_v to_o yield_v obedience_n either_o of_o silence_n or_o also_o of_o assent_n to_o they_o in_o all_o such_o point_n whereof_o they_o can_v demonstrative_o prove_v the_o contrary_n §_o 20._o 10._o whence_o it_o follow_v that_o 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will_v premise_v some_o undeniable_a truth_n which_o speak_v the_o authority_n of_o church_n governor_n the_o obedience_n due_a thereunto_o the_o condition_n of_o schism_n and_o the_o danger_n and_o guilt_n of_o it_o the_o first_o be_v that_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n be_v a_o society_n or_o company_n under_o a_o regiment_n discipline_n government_n and_o the_o member_n constitute_v that_o society_n be_v either_o person_n teach_v guide_v govern_v or_o person_n teach_v guide_v govern_v and_o this_o in_o order_n to_o preserve_v all_o in_o unity_n and_o to_o advance_v every_o member_n of_o this_o visible_a society_n to_o a_o effectual_a and_o real_a participation_n of_o grace_n and_o union_n with_o christ_n the_o head_n and_o therefore_o and_o upon_o no_o less_o account_n be_v obedience_n due_a unto_o they_o eph._n 4.11_o 12_o 13_o 16_o and_o heb._n 13.17_o and_o he_o that_o will_v not_o hear_v the_o church_n to_o be_v as_o a_o heathen_a and_o publican_n mat._n 16._o etc._n etc._n 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promise_v that_o they_o shall_v not_o err_v or_o misguide_v the_o church_n subject_n in_o necessary_n §_o 6_o 7_o i_o mean_v necessary_n take_v in_o the_o sense_n above_o explain_v 2_o disc_n §_o 9_o and_o next_o because_o what_o or_o how_o much_o be_v to_o be_v account_v thus_o necessary_a the_o judgement_n of_o this_o belong_v also_o to_o these_o church-governor_n not_o their_o subject_n as_o be_v show_v before_o 2._o disc_n §_o 6_o 7._o chap._n iii_o r._n catholic_n proceed_n to_o affirm_v 11._o that_o all_o person_n dissent_v from_o and_o oppose_v any_o know_a definition_n of_o the_o church_n in_o a_o matter_n of_o faith_n be_v heretic_n §_o 16._o 12._o all_o person_n separate_v on_o what_o pretence_n soever_o from_o the_o external_a communion_n of_o the_o church-catholick_n schismatic_n §_o 20._o but_o yet_o that_o difference_n of_o opinion_n or_o practice_n between_o coordinate_a church_n may_v be_v without_o heresy_n or_o schism_n on_o any_o side_n where_o no_o obligation_n to_o 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in_o declare_v those_o to_o be_v heretic_n who_o after_o the_o church_n definition_n continue_v to_o retain_v a_o opinion_n contrary_a thereto_o whereas_o themselves_o or_o other_o in_o hold_v the_o same_o opinion_n before_o such_o definition_n be_v not_o so_o thus_o st._n austin_n 51._o austin_n de_fw-fr civ_o dei_fw-la l._n 18._o c._n 51._o qui_fw-la in_o ecclesiâ_fw-la christi_fw-la morbidum_fw-la aliquid_fw-la pravumque_fw-la sapiunt_fw-la si_fw-la correpti_fw-la i_o by_o the_o church_n ut_fw-la sanum_fw-la rectumque_fw-la sapiant_fw-la resistunt_fw-la contumaciter_fw-la suaque_fw-la mortifera_fw-la &_o pestifera_fw-la dogmata_fw-la emendare_fw-la nolunt_fw-la sed_fw-la defensare_fw-la persistunt_fw-la haeretici_fw-la fiunt_fw-la it_o seem_v one_o holding_z dogma_fw-la pestiferum_fw-la &_o mortiferum_fw-la before_o the_o church_n corr●ption_n may_v be_v no_o heretic_n who_o yet_o be_v so_o after_o it_o and_o elsewhere_o of_o the_o donatist_n he_o say_v haeresibus_fw-la say_v 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so_o vincent_n lirinen_n 11._o lirinen_n c._n 11._o o_fw-la rerum_fw-la mira_fw-la conuersio_fw-la auctores_fw-la ejusdem_fw-la opinionis_fw-la catholici_fw-la consectatores_fw-la vero_fw-la haeretici_fw-la judicantur_fw-la absolvuntur_fw-la magistri_fw-la condemnantur_fw-la discipuli_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o wonder_n here_o be_v that_o in_o hold_v the_o self_n same_n opinion_n the_o one_o be_v not_o heretic_n the_o other_o be_v i._n e._n after_o a_o general_n council_n have_v condemn_v the_o tenent_n again_o st._n austin_n haeresibus_fw-la austin_n d._n haeresibus_fw-la give_v quod-vult-deus_a for_o avoid_v heresy_n this_o general_a rule_n scire_fw-la sufficit_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la contra_fw-la aliquid_fw-la sentire_fw-la ut_fw-la illud_fw-la non_fw-la recipiamus_fw-la in_o fidem_fw-la it_o seem_v this_o be_v a_o principle_n with_o the_o father_n nihil_fw-la recipiendum_fw-la in_o fidem_fw-la or_o credendam_fw-la contra_fw-la quod_fw-la sentit_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la and_o we_o know_v 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confirmat_fw-la therefore_o after_o the_o church_n definition_n he_o say_v one_o in_o hold_v the_o contrary_a than_o first_o become_v a_o heretic_n when_o he_o know_v or_o by_o his_o fault_n be_v ignorant_a that_o the_o church_n have_v define_v it_o see_v the_o baptism_n contra_fw-la donat._n l._n 4._o c._n 16._o constituamus_fw-la ergo_fw-la say_v he_o dvos_fw-la aliquos_fw-la isto_fw-la modo_fw-la unum_fw-la eorum_fw-la
verbi_fw-la gratiâ_fw-la id_fw-la sentire_fw-la de_fw-la christo_fw-la quod_fw-la photinus_n opinatus_fw-la est_fw-la i._n e._n in_o modern_a language_n to_o be_v a_o socinian_n no_o small_a error_n &_o in_fw-la ejus_fw-la haeresi_fw-la baptizari_fw-la extra_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la catholicae_fw-la communionem_fw-la alium_fw-la vero_fw-la hoc_fw-la idem_fw-la sentire_fw-la sed_fw-la in_o catholicâ_fw-la baptizari_fw-la existimantem_fw-la ipsam_fw-la esse_fw-la catholicam_fw-la fidem_fw-la illu_z nondum_fw-la haereticum_fw-la dico_fw-la nisi_fw-la manifestatâ_fw-la sibi_fw-la doctrinâ_fw-la catholicae_fw-la fidei_fw-la resistere_fw-la maluerit_fw-la &_o illud_fw-la quod_fw-la tenebat_fw-la elegerit_fw-la etc._n etc._n §_o 19_o and_o this_o be_v dr._n hammonds_n comment_n on_o the_o forequote_v place_n of_o titus_n how_o consonant_n to_o his_o own_o or_o other_o protestant_n doctrine_n i_o know_v not_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 761._o 〈◊〉_d p._n 761._o self-condemned_n signify_v not_o 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