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not_o in_o supposition_n that_o she_o shall_v command_v great_a error_n but_o you_o will_v not_o object_n that_o if_o the_o article_n command_v by_o the_o church_n be_v in_o themselves_o true_a yet_o if_o i_o can_v perceive_v their_o truth_n after_o all_o diligence_n use_v to_o that_o end_n it_o be_v hypocrisy_n in_o i_o and_o therefore_o unlawful_a to_o adhere_v to_o that_o church_n i_o conceive_v though_o false_o teach_v and_o command_v false_a doctrine_n and_o extraordinary_a practice_n upon_o those_o ground_n this_o true_o be_v most_o serious_o object_v by_o some_o but_o without_o all_o solidity_n for_o sure_o christian_n be_v oblige_v by_o the_o law_n of_o god_n and_o reason_n to_o depose_v their_o own_o false_a judgement_n in_o obedience_n to_o god_n &_o his_o church_n else_o this_o will_v open_v a_o gap_n to_o all_o itch_a ear_n of_o who_o we_o be_v premonish_v to_o introduce_v each_o man_n his_o fancy_n and_o prefer_v it_o before_o the_o wholesome_a doctrine_n of_o christ_n deliver_v by_o his_o church_n neither_o be_v it_o difficult_a for_o man_n though_o learned_a to_o depose_v his_o own_o judgement_n especial_o in_o order_n to_o external_a action_n for_o it_o be_v daily_o do_v by_o all_o sort_n of_o timorate_a conscience_n who_o do_v mangre_n their_o own_o reason_n direct_v themselves_o by_o the_o authority_n of_o such_o who_o they_o know_v to_o be_v more_o learned_a than_o themselves_o mr._n hobbbs_n chap._n 15._o and_o n._n 13._o say_v unusquisque_fw-la rationem_fw-la privatam_fw-la rationi_fw-la totius_fw-la civitatis_fw-la submittere_fw-la potest_fw-la here_o he_o labour_v to_o lay_v the_o ground_n of_o the_o derivation_n of_o power_n in_o the_o commonwealth_n to_o determine_v what_o belong_v to_o matter_n of_o religion_n which_o he_o faith_n that_o the_o people_n have_v transfer_v to_o the_o magistrate_n he_o prove_v it_o as_o he_o faith_n evident_o i_o examine_v it_o not_o be_v pertinent_a to_o