it contains that this vapour should come from the Doctor I know not Chap 2. vers 1. he begins with Little Children vers 12. and vers 18. chap 3. vers 7. vers 18. chap 4. vers 4. chap 5.21 and in all the Epistle not a word more but in chap 2. vers 13 14. of young Men or Fathers at all P. 14. The third part of Ministry or second of the Church Miniâ—â—ry Dr. This notion of distinguishing the ministry and its parts in abstracto from Church ministry to make the third in the one the second in the other is another whimsey which he frames to himself Resp Was there ever man in so vile a manner would so secretly have wounded the truth and a mans reputation by reproach as this man endeavours calling my distinguishing the Ministry without the Church from that within the Church proudly Notions and whimseys I received base tearms in his Letters before but I answered them in mildnesse and humilitie but this secret trechery I cannot but take notice of 1. Where he saith that I make the third in the one the second in the other is a whimsey of his own head if there be any whimsey in it and none of mine 2. If the man were sensible he would understand that Paul 2 Tim 2.11 was a Preacher an Apostle and a Teacher of the Gentiles 1. See here is a Preacher before the Apostle not in dignity but did in ministry precede the Apostle he being the first in thâ— Chuâ—ch ministry and the Teacher the last as in Eph 4.11 which being the extreams of the Church ministry comprehend the rest of Prophet Evangelist and Pastor under them which I dare to maintain against Mr Doctor by word or writing and prove his language to be but little better then blasphemy and railing Dr. That Saint Peters second Epistle was written to the Jews of his particular charge in Jerusalem is contrary to Peters own words as in 2 Pet. 3.1 it appears the second Epistle was written to whom the first was and it is clear the first was not written to tâ—oâ—e of Jerusalem but to those of Pontus c. 1 Pet. 1.1 So that to please himself in these whimsies he care not what he saith or what conjectures he makes contrary to the text sure when he wrote this his whimsey did blind him so that he did mistake the one Epistle for the other for it is in the first Epistle chap. 1. verse 2. that he gives them the title of the Elect and the dispersed are the Elect by this it appears with what carelesse fantasticalnesse this is written Resp 1. Fri nd in my Epistle to the Reader I let him know of which he also in a Letter wrote me and rebuked me for doing this thing in haste yet see with what bitternesse he carps at a mistake of putting the Elect to the second Epistle which is in the first 2. That I may when I meet with Truth honour it though it should have come from a deâ—â—â—l I do acknowledge the mistake and the pettish man never spake any thing that was considerable but now in this But 1. I commend to be considered where an Epistle formerly written mâ—y not be absent by the malice of the Jewes as one seemes to be of the Corinths 1 Cor. 5.9 2. Lest any man should thinke I should object this without ground to uphold my whimsies and fantasies pray observe 2 Pet. 3.15 he mentions the Epistle of Paul to them which was that of the Hebrews which without question was written to the Church at Jerusalem Heb. 13.23 if Timothy come shortly I will see you which was not the dispersed Jewes in these several parts of the world but the Church at Jerusalem of which after most of his Epistles written from Rome to the Gentiles he writes to Galatia and is going for Jerusalem with Titus 18 years after his conversion nor did he teach the Gospel but to the Church of Jerusalem amongst the Jews Heb. 3.1 he cals them partakers of the heavenly call Acts 18.6 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 3. Peters most aboad was at Jerusalem as he that will but observe the History of the Acts mâ—y wel find it and so was James it being agreed that James Peter and John should minister to the Circumcision 4. Timothy it may be could not go up with him at that time for he questions where he would or not Heb. 13.23 and he seemes to speak to a particular People and of a particular place P. 15. The whole Epistle doth concerne such onely as are exercised Dr. This kind of arguing from some words to infer such consequences is so silly and frivolous that a man can scarce consider it with patience Resp I say It is the doctrine of the whole Epistle he saith this is only of some words he should do well to shew that the Epistle doctrinally concerns excercised Christians or that joy it is in some one he begins only with exhortation to grow unto grace and ends with the same the whole matter tending thereunto yet he cries O silly and frivolous as having nothing else to say for himselfe in which he sounds like an empty barrell Dr. Here we have a fourth part of Church ministry even now we had but the second where is then the third of Church ministry then he said before there were but three distinct persons to be Teachers in the Church and now he brings in four Resp 1. Before you have the second Church ministry as you confesse 2. You inquire for third 3. Before you say there were but three distinct persons to be Teachers in the Church 4. I have desired you not to take exceptions at the corruptnesse of the Copy and yet how the good man catches at a flie will not any understanding men that reads it say you want but matter to carp at and to raile a man would scarce believe your empty tearmes when you passe by things you know not how to except against or what to say unto to say they are things not to be considered 〈◊〉 predecessors part you act to the life that was done by the Spanish Cardinall to the Pope on the Letter of Grosted as at leisure you may peruse in the book of Acts and Monuments they were not so wise as you therein nor so subtile as appears in the carriage of this businesse Dr. It contradicts also the former order asserted viz. that the Evangelist is before the Pastor and Teacher and now he is placed behind them so the Evangelist is double both first and last these intricacies do shew that all these things are written aâ— random without any judgement or consideration Resp 1. That the Evangelist is placed behind the Pastor and Teacher is because he is here last handled 2. He that will enumerate the Church officers and begin with the Apostles and goeth downward comes last to the Doctor but he that begins with the Doctor and goeth upward in order to the Apostles doth not destroy the
Gospel order for as in Nature a man is first a child before a man though in honour a man is mentioned before a child so in the spirituall estate of Christians likewisâ— 3. As for that the Evangelist is said to be double I have already answered it to an objection already made there-against P. 16. Dr. All these following conjectures are so silly and so little worth the consideration that no wise man will spend time to refute them Resp Sir I did not spend the hundreth part of time to refute your prudential Presbyterian Government which hath but little of the Gospel patern in it at all Sir I tooke it a broad call your brethren to put it together againe if you can I provoke you to it and do not blind the eyes of the world and say They are silly things I will charge you with it your Wit and Learning cannot do it and therefore to save your credit you slight it but this will not serve you alway there is a day comming God will call you to an accompt for your Stewardship Luke 16.2 P. 16. on Colos 3.10.12.15 Dr. What he meanes by this example and to what purpose it is alledged I know not but I am sure he makes inferences from the Apostles words which are meer fancies and no wayes consistant with the Apostles mind in this place alledged for the Apostle doth not speak of the estate of the Church as it was a society but of the duty of every beleever as he is a member in Christ Resp 1. For the alledging it I did it to that purpose before I ever read Dionysius that he doth who shall tell you for me why I alledged it Dionysius chap. 6. Eccl. Hierar prioris autem vestis posiâ—io alteriusque assumptio migrationem illam à media vita licet sacra ad perfectionem significat sicut in divina regeneratione promotionem judicabat a purgata vita ad contemplautem illuminanâ—emque habitum illa vestis caudentis immutatio This was a received truth when Presbyterian Government as now it is was hid in the bottome of that bottomlesse pit 2. That the Church here is spoken of as to a Society I will maintaine according to my brief Analisis and exposition made on the whole Epistle in my Treatise of The Resurrection of fallen Churches as is made to appear which I provoke you to object against if you can P. 17. Dr. Suppose all these in the Paragraphs to be true how will the inference be made good that an Evangelist is a perpetual and ordinary ministry in the Church Resp 1. Methinks you should deal honestly with the truth and say they are true or shew wherein they are false to what purpose is your arguing in this kind else 2. How the inference will be made good that the Evangelist is a perpetual ordinary officer lieth at the Assembly door proved in my Letters waiting when you wil be at leisure to give them an Answer anâ— especially in that particular we have a proverb no man is so blind as he that will not see you need not enquire how Mr Doctor P. 17. 1 Thes 2.1 Our entrance Dr. From the particle our to infer were ministers joyned with him is no true ground the Apostle speaks of himself alone in the plurall number in many places 2 Cor. 10.1 2 3 4. and chap. 1. v. 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 and elsewhere Resp 1. That the Apostle in this place had others joyned with him is clear Eph. 2.19 Paul Silvanus Timothy are those he calleth us and our in the whole Epistle 2. The Apostle speakes indeed himself but for Timothy and himself Timothy is joyned with him 3. By that chap. 1. with that whole leâ—ie of verses in our is the Church mentioned 〈◊〉 as in we Timothy and Paul in verse 1. Which proves he had others joyned with him and reason and sence will tell wherein ministers are one in the Scripture sence P. 18 Apply hence we may c. Dr. From the premises you may as wel conclude that there is a four-fold or five-fold administration in the ministry for if the number of Pauls co-adjutors be the medium of the argument then so many helpers as he had so many administrations there are hence it is clear you are an exâ—reamly weake man Resp Sir would it not be a wonderful shame that such a stronge man like that Philistime should be overcome by weak means nay weaknesse it self Sir if you wil not boggle with the truth I wil mainetaine that the Apostles helpers are the medium of the argument so that you understand it of such as at one and the same time and in one Church only did help him in the Ministry but who would think you would take all 〈◊〉 his helpers in several Churches to be accounted of as in one Church doe you 〈◊〉 the word in simplicity and Godly sincerity now I appeal to God and your conscience in these things P. 18. Comming to shew how the Extraordinary and Ordinary Administrations differ Dr. Haec omnia gratis dicta and doe not conâ—â—â—â— with that which hath been said formerly Resp Et tibi gratis concessa for before I only spake of the ordinary Church Ministry now of ordinary and extraordinary also and so you are never the wiser At first Christ administred to Apostles Apostles and Prophets to Evangelist Pastors and Teachers Evangelists to men Pastors to youth Teachers to infants Object You inserted not the Pastor and his administration Resp As the Apostle 2 Tim. 1.12 putting downe the two extreams of the Church Ministry comprehends the rest so in the first and last of the ordinary Church ministry is comprehended the middle P. 19. Dr. These allusions are no ground for a divine institution which at all hath not been shewed Ergo Resp Allusions nor nothing besides are any thing with you that serve you not Rom. 2.20 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 where the Babe is under the Teachers ministry or administration the Pastor helps on to perfect us as youth that under the administration of the Evangelists ministry we may be men in Christ Eph. 4.11.12.13 applied to the whole Church ministry P. 21. John 21.15 16 17. Dr. This is like the rest of your arguments to find Misteries where there are none and to build arguments upon them is all along your way it may be granted and is a truth that there is a distinction between Lambs and Sheep and between theâ— feeding and feeding of Sheep 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 differunt modo the first is properly to feed them with meat the other rule and guide them but all these duties are recommended to one and the same man and this instalement of Peter in his office by sufficient grounds to infer that which you would gather from thence in the same Pastoral and Doctrinal charge and this is to be done without the coyning of a new office Resp Mr. Doctor you must
we take your words to be divine Oracles it is enough but methinks it were more like your selfe to say thus saith the Lord not I as faithfull Paul said or else say thus saiâ— I and not the Lord but you will say I say this now and anon you will say God said but if God had said so you would not have weakened your cause so as to say I say 1 Pet. 4.10 as every man hath received the gift that is the ministerial call from the Church so minister the same not other gifts by your leave of this I writ fully in my Letters I wonder I do not hear from you I fear some private papers in the darke as this are sent abroad by you to catch silly soules withall Dr. If God send forth fellow-labourers 〈…〉 they are to do their work joyntly and distinctly according to their Talent which they shall have and shall make them fittest for service the Apostle 1 Tim 3. Tit 1. where he expresly doth institute the appoyntment of Church Officers doth name none but Presbyters and Deacons and under that name comprehends Pastors and Teachers not in distinct but in the same persons although if God send forth more labourers then are in a particular Vineyard they may apply themselves distinctly more to one then to the other as their Talents make them fittest for service but if there be no more then one alone sent forth he is to deal as the severall objects and occasions require his service Resp Sir your joyntly which you allow to the Gospel labourers is of necessity you cannot deny that for the Scriptures are so clear but your leaven lyeth hid yea you allow they must do it distinctly also but joyntly in a Nationall Church distinctly in a Parochiall otherwise it cannot be understood in your societies Did Paul Sylvanus Timothy do their work thus Nationally Mr Doctor You have not these in any Church who should have them in all And after again you say the word Presbyter comprehends Pastors and Teachers not in distinct but the same persons I hope when you read this again you will be ashamed of it As for your conceit of a particular Vineyard and applying themselves more to one then another hath no ground or proof from Scripture and then you tell us of the sending out of 〈◊〉 Labourerâ— Scripture speaks of no such thing P. 25. The true and false ministry are distinguished from the differing materials 1 Cor 3.12 Dr. This is your ordinary fault to lay too much weight upon Metaphoricall and Allegoricall speeches Resp Sir the Kingdom of God was set out in Allegories and is in especiall manner if ever to be known to be known from them Satan now to keep this Kingdom hid hath taught men a long time to deny any argument to be deduced from them to prove any thing at all by But Sir why not from them Is it not the Word of God And is not the Kingdom and mysteries thereof laid up in them It cannot be denied but thence a discovery comes to be made against the present practice Indeed if you will say because they are not understood we cannot argue from them it were something and so may be said of all the Scriptures Dr. You stretch the matter beyond the Apostles scope and so you do continually in all this discourse Resp Mr Doctor Lis coram judicibus est Dr. It is clear the Apostle doth presuppose that the same man may at one time build hay at another stubble and at another wood and the same man may build gold and silver and precious stones at different times nay and this is clear that at one time a man may build gold and silver and at another hay and stubble You stretch the Apostles words beyond his scope and rack them to another purpose then the Holy Ghost doth intend and then in all this following discourse you make upon this sandy ground a building of fantasticall conjectures to prove your poynt Resp Mr Doctor your single stubble ministry may some of them not at one time build gold and silver and at another hay and stubble but gold silver hay wood and stubble at oâ—â—â— teaching for ought I know Sir the question hangs on these 1. Where there were a single ministry at Corinth to do this or not or your supposition is nothing and your doctrine false and Antichristian that is worse 1 Cor 1.12 and chap 4.6 15. chap 12.9 2. Where Paul in his Epistle doth not endeavour to describe the false Church ministry and their work from the true and their work both ministring in Corinth or not as in his second Epistle written from Philippy as the first was in which this is opened clearly 2 Cor 11.4 where the Teacher of each society is applyed unto who is said to teach Jesus the foundation yea and the Gospel which Paul taught but in a corrupt way as vers 3. He was afraid lest their minds were corrupted from the simplicity of Christ And now lest the Apostle should be thought to aim at one individuall person in the word he vers 3. compares vers 13 14. Satans Ministers to the Ministers of Christ for number order way of ministry as Paul in the Gospel had taught to be Or who knoweth not that the Church of Corinth could not so easily be seduced by them 3. But that this is not meant of a single ministry as the Doctor dreams I commend to his consideration 1 Cor 3. vers 13. The fire shall try every mans work of what sort it is 1. Here is every man not one mans work then is applyed to 2. Every mans work is of one of these sorts and not one mans of all of these sorts as Mr Doctor I will not say fantastically conjectures 3. Vers 14. If any mans work abide Vers 15. If any mans work shall be burnt See Reader how corrupt the Doctors exposition is and contrary to the Scripture by his doctrine no mans work shall abide his ministry builds hay wood anâ— stubble nor no mans work be burned for again his ministry builds gold silver precious stones Mr Doctor your doctrine is wooden doctrine at last you will suffer losse by it P. 26. 1 Cor 4.6 These things have I transferred to my self and Apollo Dr. The Apostle transferred the things he spake of his Stewardship of the Apostleship received of God and of his faithfulnesse therein to himself and to Apollo to teach the Corinthians not to be puffed up so one against another and that they should not esteem more of any man then they ought But you run out into endlesse mistakes and mis-applications of the Apostles meaning and confound the places together which have quite different scopes Resp 1. If the Doctor writes two leâ—â—es for refutation to help fill up the margent of my Book he writes two or three of bombast railing accusations without giving reason as here you confound places together but noâ— shew where Sure he had no leisure to shew in
of qua distinct from the Aopstles Eph. 4.11 How sad a thing is it to see a Doctor so deceived are all the rest spoken of as distinct and doth he dream this is not see then if the Apostle hath in any other Scripture distinguished them if he seeth it not heer 1 Cor. 12.28 God hath placed in the Church first Apostles 2. Prophets see if God hath not distinguished them by a first and second This man would have confounded the Church Ministry mâ—king of two one with the men of his mind it is nothing to make all one 4. He tels us by foundation was not ment the Apostles but their Doctrine I having cited the text Eph. 2.20 this is clear enough expressed that it is the foundation of the Apostles not that the Apostles as the Papists say of Peter are the foundations of the Church there was no foundation for the Doctor to make this learned exception P. 5. Dr. The Church of the Gospel is built on the truths delivered by the old Prophets as is clear by Acts 26.22 Luke 24.27 2 Pet. 1.19 Resp To me it is much to see so grave a man fight with his own shadow for in this he hath not hit me at all I granted this in my Book which might wel have saved him his learned labour Dr. But the Prophets subordinate to the Apostles were no more founders to the Church then the Evangelists Resp For men of reputed learning and esteeme I see it is nothing to say any thing though never so clear against the truth Eph. 2.20 we are built upon the foundation of the Apostles and Prophets I provoke you Mr Doctor to shew where it is said that we are built upon the Evangelists Dr. Titus was no where called Evangelist was he therefore none Resp Mr. Doctor How shall I believe he was if the Scripture say not of him he was one I am sure you have no Gospel makes him such that ever he wrote unlesse it be one lately brought from Rome Dr. What need Marke and Luke be called Evangelists seeing their worke doth speake them such Resp You may easily see Mr. Doctor is good at the begging of the question and passing by the matter objected viz. That the Evangelists office 2 Tim. 4 5. is a ministeriall Church worke and not a writing work as I have proved at large in my Letters sent to the Assembly and printed but not Answered because you have not leisure as in your Letters formerly you say concerning this Book Dr. The worke of an Evangalist is not only to Preach but to order matters by Apostolical direction Tit. 1.5 Resp 1. This then shewes your Evangelist was no extraordinary officer in the Church for what he did he did by direction as you and I should do in the Church were we faithful and no otherwise 2. In my forme of Gospel Government for Gospel Churches and in this book you so sift to find chaffe in I have allowed as well Government as Teaching to the Church Ministry according to Jesus Christ and you prove no more for Titus is not for this worke here or any where called Evangelist nor were any where else for that particular act Dr. Is not the writing the history of Christ's life the worke of an Evangelist and if Marke and Luke did this why should they not be called Evangelists Resp An risum teneatis amiei Mr Doctor if they did this why yet should they be called Evangelists unlesse you can canonise them for such by authority of the Presbytery that now is Doctor And is not the work extraordinary was it not indited and directed by the Spirit in Mark and Luke as well as in Mathew and John Resp M. Doctor When you wrot notes on my Book and had it communicated in that disgracefull way as this was I thought you had not vented your self into such like Quries as these 2. A man would have thought your reading would have taught you to distinguish between an Apostle and an Evangilist 3. I thought my former letter to you of this point would have made you blot out this dul notion seeing the Gospel you so much talk of Luke 1. was by him but a setting in order things believed amongst us as himself saith and not inspired into him ver 2. As they delivered them to us And here M. Doctor Who were these but Mark and Luke and then by whom but by eie witnsses which were it is likely Matthew and John with the rest of the Apostles and it may be said of the seventy of which Mark and Luke were not but had it from them that were as is plain and clear to him that is not blinded Doctor And is not the hystory of Christ a fundamentall truth of the Gospel Resp And M. Doctor The Amanuenses of many of the Psalms thâ— Prophets the Epistle of the Romans Tertius Rom. 16.22 were not made there by Evangelists yet are their writings not authoritative they being dictated to by the Apostles and Prophets P. 6. Dr. Rom. 10.15 From Esay 52.7 Is not to be understood of the distinct office of the Evangelist as he differs from the Apostle Prophet Pastor and Teacher but to Evangelize there doth comprehend all the testimony of Jesus in all respects but especially of the Apostles worke and if this be so then from the generall denomination of Evangelizing the distinct office of the Evangelist can be no more proved to be ordinary then from the generall name of Messengers 2 Cor. 8.23 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 that the Apostolical Office is ordinary as Preachers are in some sense Evangelists viz. in respect of the glad tydings that they preach Resp That Evangelizing was applyed to the whole Gospel ministry I granted and thence proved that it was an ordinary Office in the Church yet to teach and apply peace with the good things of the Gospel to the strong men in Christ onely was the proper worke of the Church Evangelist to which Paul applieth that of 1 Cor. 1.17 he distinguishing the Teachers Ministry under the act of Baptizing who taught also and the Evangelists Ministry which Paul in Corinth as an ordinary Minister officiated with other his fellow helpers 2. For your parallel place 2 Cor. 8.23 I would you would take your Bible and see how God distinguished these Apostles from the others 1 Cor. 1.1 Eph. 1.1 Collos 1.1 Paul is an Apostle of Jesus Christ the Apostles 2 Cor. 8.23 are Apostles of the Churches Sir I may say to you of this as Christ to the blind Pharisees ye errre not knowing the Scriptures so that this Scripture proves not any hinderance to my conclusion as you seem to affirme but that thence it appears because the name is given in common to the ordinary Ministry it was but an ordinary office in the Church which oft as Pastors and Teachers to remaine therein to the end Dr. That Timothy and Titus were imployed only about one place is so directly opposite to Scripture that nothing can
ruling Elder is set up in the church and none before after this the Deaconesse and things concerning the Kingdom that is the church administrations were given them after Christs resurrection Act 1.3 by especiall direction P. 12. It was grosse when the word Church was only taken for your places of assembly c. Dr. The denomination of your place of meeting by the name Church when the continens is used pro contento is not incongruous but consonant to Scripture 1 Cor 1.18 with 20 22. Resp Sir it is incongruous for a man to quarrel with one agrees with him and to take the word Church in Scripture only for a meeting place is worse but I think I proved to your hand more clearly or Mr Mead for me that which you here assert in the same Book p. 56. from 1 Cor 11.22 But you were weary spending any more time and ink in the reading and correcting of this smoky piece and so left off before you came to the end and saw it not or rather you dare not deal with that as with this it comes closer to your coyned government Dr. Mixt Assemblyes do not make voyd the truth of the Church if Gods Ordinances be observed therein and the true Doctrine taught and received Resp 1. This is but your saying they do not it is little worth with those argue against you especially when it is against the truth 2. Your Hypothesis is drawn aâ— impossible for God's Ordinances cannot be observed in mixed societies 3. Shew me one church constituted of the Gospel constitution of a Nationall mixt society and I will shew you all others be the contrary constituted and more then 100 years after that were approved by approved Authors Pag. 12. There are to be three distinct Teachers in every Church Dr. It is not clear that these three are to be distinct and perpetuall in ordinary all this is said at random and without ground Resp 1. Sir it is as clear as Scripture can make them yet as clear as they are I cannot make your eies see them the smoke being on them take away the smoke and they will appear to be three distinct ordinary Teachers 2. That that was ordinary in the Apostles time that is to be ordinary in every true constituted Church for ever and it hath a Gospel ground but your single ministry hath no foot for a foundation from Christ but Antichrist you acknowledge Pastors and Teachers why have ye not them set up in your societies sure it will not suit with the constitution of your Church or with your profit or something Pag. 13. Galat 2.9 James is Evangelist Peter Pastor John Teacher Dr. These things are meer fancies without any proof from Scripture and altogether inconsistent with the Apostolicall charge Resp 1. Sir what means 2 Pet 5.1 where Peter calleth himself 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 If not that in some constituted Church he was joyned with others in the ministry 2. Sir in my Treatise of The Resurrection of faln Churches I have proved by the testimony of Tertullian Ireneus and others that the Apostles were the Elders of the Church of Jerusalem men whose testimony is to be received before all the testimony of the Presbyters living 3. Is it more inconsistent with these to do thus among the Jews in the Mother Church then with Paul to do these among the Gentiles 2 Tim 1.11 and with Barnabas Peter and Iohn with Philip at Samaria Act 8.14.25 and why not at Ierusalem â—r Doctor Pag 13. That the Gospel was preached in the Synagogue as to mixt multitudes Dr. These proofs are such silly inferences that it is tedious to reflect upon them and examine them they are even ridiculous Resp Sir you are not the first have made a mock at the truth of the Gospel their disputing and reasoning differâ—d from Church teaching as a work of the Catechist which when men were sufficiently wrote on were separated from the multitude to the believers society as in the Acts 18.4 7 11. and is a thing deserves more study then you are willing to spare about it because it is opposite to your present designs Pag 14. the second part of ministry c. L. 1. Dr. This doth contradict that which he hath been saying all this while his argument formerly taken from the order of words for if the Doctor be the second part of the ministry next the Evangelist then the Pastor is not the second to the Evangelist but these are groundlesse whimseys Resp In the end of the page before I shewed from the words of Christ Math 23.11 He that is greatest amongst you shall be your servant Where I observed Christ shews the Evangelists work was to make way for the Church constitution and so ministred to the Teacher and Pastor And when the Church came to be constituted and that there were men fitted for the Evangelists ministry then some other was constituted to do that work without the Church and the Evangelist did minister the perfecting ministry to the strong men in Christ in which work the Pastor is next him though in the other his ministry preceded the Doctor And this is the groundlesse whimsey which was the practice of the Apostles in their ordinary ministry Paul taught at Corinth before he baptized and then baptized and when the church is constituted he leaves baptizing and that ministry and Evangelizeth 1 Cor 1.14 17. Act 18.4 7 8. Pag 14. Of Iames and Iohns Epistle Dr. The difference of Iames and Iohns stiles the one reproving of vices and faults sharply and the other perswading powerfully to the improvement of grace is no argument of any such thing as he would have inferred that he was a Doctor to the Jewish church in particular But indeed these things are so weak and silly that they are not worth the answering Resp See how this silly man makes the difference of the doctrine to be only in the stile as if the condition of the persons required it not as if any man in that society and to that people Iohn taught might have taught that Doctrine and applyed there that Iames taught â—t è contrario Mark 3.17 was not Iohn as well as Iames the son of thunder Think you among the Apostles was no other conduct of spirit then in your confused Babylonish teaching See if any Epistle writ to any church be like this of Iames Shew any ground from Iames Epistle that it was written to a constituted church I think I shall shew you shortly 20. why it was not P. 14. The whole Doctrine is for Babes Dr. The Apostle writes to young Men and to Fathers as well as to Babes how then is the whole Doctrine for Babes alone but this is like all the rest Resp 1. The Apostle as Apostle had an extraordinary call to write to Fathers and young Men of the Church as wel as Babes 2. That he writes to these is contained all in chap 2. vers 14. Now what and how much of Doctrine