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A10609 A remonstrance: or plaine detection of some of the faults and hideous sores of such sillie syllogismes and impertinent allegations, as out of sundrie factious pamphlets and rhapsodies, are cobled vp together in a booke, entituled, A demonstration of discipline wherein also, the true state of the controuersie of most of the points in variance, is (by the way) declared. Sutcliffe, Matthew, 1550?-1629, attributed name. 1590 (1590) STC 20881; ESTC S115774 171,783 224

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among_o all_o christian_n aristot_n in_o his_o politike_n make_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o dominion_n of_o barbarian_n to_o your_o place_n the_o answer_n be_v our_o saviour_n destroy_v not_o there_o either_o his_o own_o primacy_n or_o the_o superiority_n of_o the_o apostle_n over_o other_o calling_n ecclesiastical_a inferior_a but_o rather_o establish_v it_o attemper_v they_o nevertheless_o to_o humility_n he_o that_o be_v great_a or_o will_v be_v great_a among_o you_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d let_v he_o be_v your_o servant_n or_o as_o luke_n 22._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d he_o that_o be_v great_a let_v he_o be_v as_o puny_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o chief_a as_o he_o that_o serve_v he_o do_v not_o divest_v himself_o of_o lawful_a superiority_n but_o will_v they_o after_o his_o own_o example_n to_o be_v invest_v with_o humility_n for_o he_o himself_o do_v not_o degrade_v himself_o from_o his_o supremacy_n when_o by_o wash_v of_o their_o foot_n he_o serve_v 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remonstrance_n remonstrance_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v the_o elder_n or_o minister_n or_o pastoral_n elder_n be_v a_o senate_n or_o fellowship_n of_o the_o apostle_n of_o christ_n without_o it_o there_o be_v no_o congregation_n holy_a or_o sacred_a nor_o synod_n of_o saint_n and_o so_o say_v we_o but_o this_o be_v a_o great_a distance_n from_o your_o laical_a eldership_n this_o be_v our_o holy_a and_o sacred_a convocation_n or_o chapterhouse_n or_o whatsoever_o ecclesiastical_a assembly_n and_o meeting_n it_o appear_v by_o sundry_a place_n of_o ignatius_n that_o the_o presbyteri_fw-la he_o speak_v of_o do_v preach_v and_o minister_v the_o sacrament_n ergo_fw-la he_o mean_v not_o of_o you_o these_o who_o he_o mean_v he_o say_v be_v successor_n of_o the_o apostle_n which_o hitherto_o i_o have_v not_o hear_v any_o of_o you_o challenge_v for_o your_o elder_n that_o be_v lay_v man_n the_o 6._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n bape_n demonstration_n tertul._n de_fw-fr 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jeron_n con_fw-mi lucife_n neither_o elder_a nor_o deacon_n have_v right_a but_o upon_o commandment_n of_o the_o bishop_n so_o much_o as_o to_o baptize_v the_o word_n ind_n venit_fw-la ut_fw-la sine_fw-la chrismate_fw-la &_o episcopi_fw-la iussione_n neque_fw-la presbyter_n neque_fw-la diaconus_fw-la ius_fw-la habeant_fw-la baptizandi_fw-la that_o be_v remonstrance_n remonstrance_n pastoral_a elder_n or_o priest_n the_o word_n immediate_o antecedent_n speak_v of_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o bishop_n or_o chief_a priest_n who_o do_v authorise_v other_o priest_n ut_fw-la enim_fw-la accepit_fw-la quis_fw-la ita_fw-la &_o dare_v potest_fw-la he_o speak_v of_o chrism_n aswell_o as_o of_o the_o bishop_n licence_n allude_v to_o a_o particular_a custom_n this_o can_v serve_v your_o turn_n for_o you_o hold_v that_o no_o bishop_n may_v debar_v you_o of_o licence_n to_o preach_v or_o use_v your_o ministry_n &_o your_o elder_n and_o deacons_n may_v not_o minister_v the_o sacrament_n though_o they_o be_v licence_v as_o yourselves_o think_v the_o 8._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n elder_n fall_v away_o upon_o the_o ambition_n of_o the_o teacher_n 5._o demonstra_fw-la amb._n 1._o tim._n 5._o ambrose_n say_v synagoga_fw-la &_o postea_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la seniores_fw-la habuit_fw-la tolerable_a remonstrance_n ambrose_n say_v that_o state_n of_o the_o church_n for_o all_o that_o be_v tolerable_a both_o the_o synagogue_n and_o afterward_o the_o church_n have_v elder_n or_o senior_n before_o any_o christian_a magistrate_n have_v the_o preeminence_n in_o the_o church_n but_o no_o such_o elder_n as_o you_o do_v platform_n for_o these_o give_v but_o counsel_n you_o do_v absolute_o govern_v ordain_v censure_n and_o all_o thing_n save_v preach_v and_o minister_a sacrament_n the_o 9_o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n august_n demonstra_fw-la possidon_n in_o vita_fw-la august_n valerius_n the_o bishop_n do_v contrary_a to_o the_o apostolical_a custom_n in_o appoint_v augustine_n to_o preach_v be_v a_o elder_a the_o word_n be_v remonstrance_n remonstrance_n contrausum_fw-la &_o consuetudinem_fw-la ecclesiarum_fw-la aphricanarum_fw-la against_o the_o use_n and_o custom_n of_o the_o aphrican_a church_n not_o of_o the_o oriental_a church_n where_o the_o use_n be_v so_o a_o custom_n particular_a mislike_v also_o by_o many_o of_o the_o father_n you_o will_v make_v apostolical_a and_o general_a the_o 10._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n after_o arrius_n be_v convict_v of_o heresy_n 22._o demonstrat_n socr._n li._n 5._o ca._n 22._o elder_n may_v not_o preach_v it_o be_v so_o decree_v caluins_n quotation_n be_v lib._n 9_o socrat._n tripartitae_fw-la historiae_fw-la remonstrance_n remonstrance_n alexandria_n tantùm_fw-la institutum_fw-la fuit_fw-la whence_o you_o borrow_v this_o only_o at_o alexandria_n this_o be_v ordain_v because_o arrius_n have_v trouble_v the_o church_n there_o be_v not_o this_o curtal_n of_o place_n a_o evident_a sign_n of_o the_o evil_a conscience_n you_o have_v if_o you_o know_v it_o or_o of_o ignorance_n join_v with_o boldness_n if_o you_o know_v it_o not_o and_o yet_o allege_v it_o the_o 11._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n 1._o demonstrat_n bucer_n de_fw-fr reg_fw-la chri._n lib._n 1._o the_o number_n of_o elder_n of_o every_o church_n must_v be_v increase_v according_a to_o the_o multitude_n of_o the_o people_n bucer_n by_o the_o word_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 8._o speak_v of_o curatorum_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la &_o seniorum_fw-la remonstrance_n remonstrance_n that_o be_v pastoral_a elder_n as_o the_o marginal_a note_n understand_v the_o minister_n ministros_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la sarcire_fw-la oportere_fw-la quicquid_fw-la fuerit_fw-la neglectum_fw-la the_o 12._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n martyr_n 12._o rom._n lament_v that_o they_o be_v fall_v out_o of_o the_o church_n demonstration_n demonstration_n that_o the_o name_n scant_o remain_v martyr_n cit_v s._n ambrose_n complaint_n of_o the_o want_n or_o defect_n of_o certain_a elder_n for_o advice_n remonstrance_n remonstrance_n who_o be_v for_o a_o time_n in_o some_o church_n the_o magistrate_n be_v unchristian_a but_o you_o find_v not_o that_o they_o be_v call_v presbyteri_fw-la as_o signify_v a_o office_n which_o title_n you_o give_v to_o you_o and_o the_o place_n where_o presbyteri_fw-la be_v name_v you_o apply_v to_o they_o the_o 13._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n certain_a of_o the_o people_n be_v join_v with_o the_o pastor_n in_o church-government_n 1._o demonstration_n idem_fw-la 12._o co._n 1._o even_o so_o at_o this_o day_n remonstran_n remonstran_n in_o every_o parish_n be_v the_o like_a assistant_n to_o gather_v and_o employ_v the_o alm_n of_o the_o church_n and_o for_o other_o provision_n the_o puritan_n know_v not_o their_o own_o church_n or_o common_a wealth_n and_o yet_o the_o meaning_n be_v but_o of_o church_n in_o great_a city_n and_o cathedral_n the_o 14._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n 8._o demostran_n caluin_n instit_fw-la li._n 4._o cap._n 3._o sect_n 8._o there_o be_v elder_n in_o the_o church_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d he_o say_v it_o be_v no_o necessary_a demonstration_n to_o prove_v it_o remonstrance_n remonstrance_n he_o can_v never_o prove_v that_o they_o have_v jurisdiction_n or_o aught_o to_o have_v of_o censure_n of_o ordination_n of_o law_n make_v and_o all_o other_o government_n or_o that_o they_o be_v lay_v man_n and_o have_v no_o maintenance_n by_o the_o church_n or_o that_o they_o be_v annual_a or_o biennall_a officer_n as_o the_o consistorial_o do_v now_o preach_v the_o 15._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n d._n whitgift_n pag._n 638._o confess_v there_o be_v elder_n demonstr_n demonstr_n some_o be_v senior_n as_o ambrose_n speak_v of_o in_o the_o church_n before_o any_o christian_a magistrate_n be_v pro_fw-la tempore_fw-la remonstrance_n remonstrance_n for_o a_o stay_n &_o good_a advice_n in_o the_o church_n but_o none_o of_o this_o medley_n of_o perpetuity_n and_o 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