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approve_v and_o receive_v as_o a_o consent_n and_o harmony_n of_o they_o with_o thâse_a may_v be_v clear_v etc._n etc._n pag._n 8._o concern_v which_o position_n we_o will_v not_o say_v much_o because_o the_o intendment_n in_o this_o defânce_n be_v only_o to_o clear_v what_o be_v say_v by_o the_o synod_n against_o what_o this_o reverend_a author_n say_v against_o the_o same_o in_o his_o ãâã_d and_o therefore_o until_o he_o speak_v to_o what_o the_o synod_n deliver_v we_o think_v it_o not_o needful_a to_o insist_v long_o upon_o these_o premise_a position_n only_o this_o we_o may_v say_v concern_v they_o that_o though_o sundry_a thing_n in_o they_o be_v sound_a and_o good_a yet_o the_o posiâions_n themselves_o be_v not_o scripture_n but_o his_o own_o private_a collection_n therefore_o we_o do_v not_o see_v that_o we_o be_v bind_v to_o take_v these_o position_n as_o the_o standard_n and_o rule_n by_o which_o to_o judge_v of_o what_o the_o synod_n say_v but_o if_o the_o synod_n doctrine_n 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member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n be_v the_o subject_n of_o baptism_n the_o second_o be_v this_o viz._n the_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n according_a to_o scripture_n be_v confederate_a visible_a believer_n in_o particular_a church_n and_o their_o infant-seed_n i._n e._n child_n in_o ãâã_d who_o next_o parent_n one_o or_o both_o be_v in_o covenant_n now_o what_o say_v the_o reverend_a author_n to_o these_o that_o which_o he_o say_v be_v this_o i_o can_v approve_v the_o two_o first_o proposition_n without_o some_o change_n of_o the_o term_n in_o the_o first_o thus_o they_o that_o according_a to_o christ_n ordinance_n be_v regular_a and_o actual_a member_n etc._n etc._n the_o second_o thus_o the_o actual_a and_o regular_a member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n according_a to_o christ_n ordinance_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 9_o answ._n so_o that_o the_o alteration_n require_v be_v that_o in_o stead_n of_o scripture_n it_o be_v say_v christ_n ordinance_n and_o in_o stead_n of_o member_n actual_a and_o regular_a member_n but_o a_o necessity_n of_o this_o alteration_n do_v not_o appear_v for_o as_o for_o the_o one_o particular_a can_v we_o think_v that_o thâre_a iâ_n any_o such_o difference_n between_o the_o scripture_n and_o the_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n that_o ãâã_d may_v be_v member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n and_o so_o subject_n of_o baptism_n according_a to_o the_o fââer_n and_o yet_o not_o according_a to_o the_o laâterâ_n if_o it_o be_v according_a to_o the_o scripture_n may_v it_o not_o âe_v say_v to_o be_v according_a to_o christ_n ordinance_n sure_o when_o christ_n himself_o bid_v we_o search_v the_o scripture_n job_n 5.39_o and_o when_o the_o berean_o be_v commend_v for_o search_v the_o scripture_n whether_o those_o thing_n be_v so_o which_o be_v preach_v by_o paul_n act_v 17.11_o and_o when_o all_o the_o scripture_n be_v for_o our_o learning_n rom._n 15.4_o and_o do_v contain_v a_o perfect_a rule_n in_o all_o thing_n that_o concern_v god_n worship_n whether_o natural_a or_o institute_v as_o this_o reverend_a author_n say_v in_o the_o first_o of_o his_o premise_a position_n upon_o these_o ground_n it_o may_v seem_v that_o what_o be_v according_a to_o scripture_n need_v not_o to_o want_v our_o approbation_n for_o fear_v leave_v it_o agree_v not_o with_o the_o ordinance_n of_o christ._n and_o indeed_o how_o can_v that_o be_v take_v for_o a_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n which_o be_v not_o according_a to_o scripture_n that_o be_v consider_v also_o which_o be_v say_v by_o the_o reverend_a author_n in_o his_o second_o position_n that_o whatsoever_o christ_n do_v institute_v in_o the_o christian_a church_n he_o do_v it_o by_o god_n appointment_n as_o moses_n by_o god_n appointment_n give_v out_o what_o he_o deliver_v in_o the_o church_n of_o israel_n now_o if_o all_o that_o be_v institute_v by_o christ_n be_v according_a to_o god_n appointment_n and_o that_o the_o scripture_n contain_v a_o perfect_a rule_n concern_v all_o 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the_o text_n mat._n 28.19_o 20._o where_o christ_n minister_n be_v require_v to_o baptise_v and_o to_o teach_v the_o baptise_a to_o observe_v all_o his_o commandment_n the_o assumption_n be_v plain_a of_o itself_o to_o the_o seven_o argument_n viz._n that_o elder_n must_v seed_v i._n e._n both_o teach_v and_o rule_v all_o the_o flock_n and_o that_o child_n be_v part_n of_o the_o flock_n the_o reverend_a author_n answer_v that_o this_o concern_v not_o such_o grow_a person_n as_o be_v not_o in_o full_a communion_n for_o without_o this_o they_o be_v not_o to_o be_v account_v of_o the_o flock_n or_o church_n ans._n if_o this_o that_o be_v here_o say_v be_v sufficient_o and_o clear_o prove_v it_o will_v be_v very_o acceptable_a to_o many_o elder_n in_o this_o country_n as_o clear_v they_o from_o a_o great_a part_n of_o the_o burden_n which_o they_o suppose_v themselves_o to_o be_v under_o and_o when_o the_o holy-ghost_n say_v that_o they_o must_v take_v heed_n to_o themselves_o and_o to_o 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