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same_o book_n quote_v in_o like_a manner_n but_o let_v it_o be_v of_o ignorance_n you_o take_v occasion_n by_o it_o to_o utter_v your_o cynical_a 〈◊〉_d but_o to_o your_o own_o shame_n the_o place_n allege_v make_v much_o for_o my_o purpose_n for_o it_o prove_v superiority_n to_o have_v 〈◊〉_d among_o the_o apostle_n and_o therefore_o that_o it_o may_v be_v among_o minister_n which_o you_o deny_v ▪_o and_o i_o affirm_v which_o also_o be_v grant_v as_o it_o can_v be_v deny_v whatsoever_o i_o affirm_v either_o of_o archbyshop_n or_o bishop_n will_v soon_o be_v pron_v but_o let_v we_o hear_v the_o proof_n of_o this_o new_a devise_n of_o you_o in_o solute_v this_o and_o such_o like_a place_n that_o one_o rule_v the_o action_n etc._n etc._n chap._n 3._o the._n 44._o division_n t._n c._n page_n 84._o sect._n 3_o and_o that_o it_o may_v appear_v what_o superiority_n it_o be_v which_o be_v lawful_a among_o the_o minister_n and_o what_o it_o be_v that_o m._n caluine_n speak_v of_o what_o also_o 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contrary_a to_o the_o testimony_n of_o all_o history_n counsel_n and_o father_n affirm_v by_o no_o learned_a writer_n as_o it_o may_v appear_v by_o that_o which_o i_o have_v hitherto_o allege_v out_o of_o the_o canon_n attribute_v to_o the_o apostle_n the_o council_n also_o of_o nice_a antioch_n arelat_n carthage_n chalcedon_n likewise_o out_o of_o cyprian_a eusebius_n epiphanius_n athanasius_n gregory_n nazian_n ambrose_n jerome_n socrates_n sozom._n theodoret_n caluin_n illiricus_fw-la all_o which_o manifest_o declare_v that_o the_o office_n of_o a_o archbishop_n and_o jurisdiction_n of_o a_o bishop_n be_v permanent_a and_o affix_v to_o certain_a place_n not_o movable_a nor_o during_o one_o action_n only_o and_o undoubted_o i_o marvel_n what_o urge_v you_o to_o such_o absurd_a and_o unlearned_a paradox_n unless_o it_o be_v ignorance_n and_o lack_n of_o read_v but_o let_v we_o hear_v your_o reason_n chap._n 3._o the._n 45._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 84._o sect._n 3_o for_o it_o be_v a_o absurd_a hear_n that_o many_o shall_v at_o once_o attempt_v to_o speak_v neither_o can_v it_o proof_n a_o needless_a proof_n be_v do_v without_o great_a reproach_n that_o many_o man_n begin_v to_o speak_v some_o shall_v be_v bid_v to_o hold_v their_o peace_n which_o will_v come_v to_o pass_v if_o there_o shall_v be_v no_o order_n keep_v nor_o none_o to_o appoint_v when_o every_o one_o shall_v speak_v or_o not_o to_o put_v they_o to_o silence_n when_o they_o attempt_v confuse_o to_o speak_v and_o out_o of_o order_n moreover_o when_o many_o minister_n meet_v together_o and_o in_o so_o great_a diversity_n of_o gift_n as_o the_o lord_n have_v give_v to_o his_o church_n there_o be_v find_v that_o excel_v in_o memory_n facility_n of_o tongue_n and_o expedition_n or_o quickness_n to_o dispatch_v matter_n more_o than_o the_o rest_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v fit_n that_o the_o brethren_n that_o have_v that_o dexterity_n shall_v especial_o be_v prefer_v unto_o this_o office_n that_o the_o action_n may_v be_v the_o better_a and_o more_o speedy_o make_v a_o end_n of_o io._n whitgifte_n sure_o and_o your_o devise_n of_o salve_v it_o be_v as_o absurd_a for_o there_o will_v be_v as_o great_a contention_n at_o such_o election_n as_o there_o be_v confusion_n in_o the_o former_a equality_n and_o the_o rather_o because_o there_o be_v none_o to_o direct_v they_o therein_o for_o who_o shall_v call_v they_o together_o before_o this_o election_n be_v make_v where_o shall_v they_o meet_v who_o shall_v declare_v unto_o they_o the_o cause_n of_o their_o meeting_n or_o what_o remedy_n if_o they_o can_v agree_v of_o some_o one_o that_o have_v this_o dexterity_n but_o be_v draw_v into_o diverse_a part_n some_o think_v one_o most_o meet_a and_o some_o another_o other_o some_o the_o three_o &_o c_o how_o if_o there_o be_v sect_n and_o schism_n among_o they_o as_o there_o be_v at_o this_o time_n a_o hundred_o inconvenience_n be_v there_o in_o this_o devise_n of_o you_o and_o to_o 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late_a unto_o the_o book_n put_v forth_o in_o the_o 〈◊〉_d ▪_o and_o under_o the_o credit_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o sarisburie_n wherein_o i_o will_v say_v nothing_o of_o those_o 〈◊〉_d &_o sharp_a join_a rd_n which_o be_v give_v partly_o in_o the_o beginning_n when_o he_o call_v the_o propounder_n of_o the_o 〈◊〉_d why_o h_o 〈◊〉_d archebishop_n and_o archedeacons_n novice_n partly_o in_o the_o end_n when_o he_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d child_n and_o the_o doctrine_n of_o kedlye_o of_o a_o shameless_a un_o kedlye_o the_o gospel_n wantonness_n etc._n etc._n if_o he_o have_v lie_v 〈◊〉_d learning_n and_o gravittie_n and_o otherwise_o good_a desert_n of_o the_o church_n in_o defend_v the_o 〈◊〉_d thereof_o against_o the_o papist_n we_o can_v have_v easy_o bear_v it_o at_o his_o hand_n now_o he_o be_v dead_a and_o 〈◊〉_d up_o 〈◊〉_d peace_n 〈◊〉_d be_v against_o all_o humanity_n to_o dig_v or_o to_o break_v up_o his_o grave_n only_o i_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d t_o 〈◊〉_d the_o consideration_n of_o the_o reader_n upon_o 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whole_a church_n and_o pastor_n shall_v then_o be_v compel_v to_o be_v as_o much_o absent_a from_o their_o benefyce_n by_o reason_n of_o those_o synod_n as_o they_o be_v now_o upon_o other_o occasion_n lord_n what_o a_o tumultuous_a church_n will_v this_o be_v if_o this_o plat_n for_o i_o may_v take_v place_n in_o the_o mean_a while_o the_o prince_n shall_v be_v a_o cipher_n and_o only_o wait_v to_o understand_v what_o kind_n of_o religion_n ceremony_n and_o government_n these_o signory_n and_o their_o synod_n will_v prescribe_v unto_o she_o to_o maintain_v and_o defend_v for_o the_o must_v have_v potestatem_fw-la facti_fw-la only_o not_o juris_fw-la she_o must_v take_v law_n she_o must_v give_v none_o she_o must_v execute_v whatsoever_o it_o please_v master_n pastor_n and_o their_o senior_n to_o command_v she_o else_o will_v they_o stir_v up_o the_o whole_a country_n against_o she_o at_o the_o least_o she_o must_v be_v excommunicate_v i_o think_v i_o see_v the_o very_a beginning_n of_o a_o new_a popedom_n have_v you_o show_v this_o confuse_a order_n to_o have_v be_v in_o y_z e_o apostles_n time_n or_o in_o y_z e_z primitive_a church_n apostle_n t._n c._n ascribe_v his_o own_o devise_n to_o the_o apostle_n where_o have_v you_o show_v it_o or_o when_o will_v you_o prove_v it_o synod_n there_o be_v indeed_o and_o necessary_a it_o be_v that_o when_o occasion_n serve_v they_o shall_v be_v but_o your_o signiory_n in_o every_o town_n or_o parish_n under_o a_o christian_a prince_n never_o be_v neither_o be_v it_o possible_a that_o without_o confusion_n it_o shall_v be_v as_o i_o have_v before_o declare_v but_o what_o audacity_n be_v this_o to_o ascribe_v a_o order_n invent_v by_o yourself_o upon_o the_o which_o scarce_o three_o of_o you_o do_v agree_v if_o you_o be_v well_o examine_v and_o in_o the_o which_o yourself_o or_o ever_o it_o be_v long_o will_v espy_v some_o thing_n to_o be_v alter_v unto_o the_o apostle_n of_o bishops_n court_n and_o their_o officer_n chap._n 2._o the._n 1._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 150._o sect._n 1_o these_o thing_n stand_v in_o this_o sort_n all_o those_o court_n of_o bishop_n and_o archbyshop_n must_v needs_o fall_v which_o be_v by_o antichrist_n erect_v against_o this_o lawful_a jurisdiction_n of_o eldership_n as_o the_o court_n of_o faculty_n and_o those_o which_o be_v hold_v by_o chancellor_n commissary_n officialls_n and_o such_o like_a the_o describe_v of_o the_o corruption_n whereof_o will_v require_v a_o whole_a book_n of_o which_o i_o will_v note_v the_o principal_a head_n and_o sum_n io._n whitgifte_n and_o not_o these_o court_v only_o but_o all_o the_o court_n in_o england_n will_v be_v devour_v up_o of_o your_o signiory_n yea_o each_o the_o prince_n regal_a authority_n as_o may_v appear_v partly_o by_o that_o which_o be_v say_v before_o and_o partly_o by_o that_o which_o shall_v follow_v hereafter_o for_o what_o jurisdiction_n will_v not_o your_o signiory_n usurp_v what_o matter_n will_v it_o not_o presume_v to_o determine_v what_o degree_n of_o person_n will_v it_o not_o tread_v under_o foot_n but_o let_v we_o hear_v what_o you_o say_v of_o these_o court_n chap._n 2._o the._n 2._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 150._o sect._n 2._o first_o for_o that_o they_o enter_v into_o a_o office_n which_o perteyn_v not_o unto_o they_o but_o to_o every_o particular_a church_n and_o especial_o to_o the_o eldership_n and_o governor_n of_o the_o church_n and_o therefore_o although_o they_o shall_v do_v nothing_o but_o that_o which_o be_v good_a lawful_a and_o godly_a yet_o can_v they_o not_o approve_v their_o labour_n unto_o man_n much_o less_o to_o god_n put_v their_o sickle_n in_o another_o man_n harvest_n for_o neither_o by_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n do_v that_o apperteyne_a unto_o they_o neither_o by_o m._n doctor_n own_o judgement_n if_o his_o yea_o were_z yea_o and_o his_o nay_o nay_o consider_v that_o he_o say_v before_o that_o this_o jurisdiction_n belong_v to_o the_o minister_n and_o although_o it_o shall_v perteyne_a unto_o the_o bishop_n as_o he_o be_v call_v to_o who_o notwithstanding_o it_o do_v not_o apperteyne_a yet_o be_v it_o not_o lawful_a for_o he_o to_o translate_v this_o office_n unto_o another_o and_o to_o appoint_v one_o to_o do_v it_o when_o he_o list_v no_o more_o than_o he_o can_v appoint_v they_o to_o do_v his_o other_o office_n of_o minister_a as_o preach_v the_o word_n and_o minister_a the_o sacrament_n io._n whitgifte_n your_o several_a government_n by_o eldership_n in_o every_o parish_n i_o utter_o reject_v as_o neither_o justifiable_a by_o god_n word_n nor_o any_o example_n of_o any_o church_n at_o any_o time_n under_o a_o christian_a prince_n in_o that_o manner_n and_o form_n by_o you_o prescribe_v the_o court_n of_o faculty_n meddle_v not_o with_o excommunication_n the_o court_n of_o chancellor_n etc._n etc._n have_v many_o more_o matter_n to_o deal_v withal_o than_o excommunication_n for_o that_o be_v but_o one_o part_n of_o discipline_n that_o they_o use_v or_o aught_o to_o use_v only_o upon_o a_o extremity_n concern_v the_o which_o discipline_n and_o the_o minister_n thereof_o i_o be_o of_o the_o self_n same_o same_o judgement_n that_o i_o be_v before_o and_o my_o yea_o be_v yea_o 5._o gualther_n in_o .1_o â–ª_o cor._n 5._o and_o my_o nay_o be_v nay_o and_o yet_o it_o i_o will_v tell_v you_o what_o i_o have_v read_v since_o in_o m_n gualters_n commentary_n upon_o the._n 1._o cor._n 5._o if_o any_o will_v appoint_v some_o kind_n of_o separation_n or_o shut_v out_o which_o shall_v be_v execute_v by_o a_o lawful_a magistrate_n and_o shall_v rather_o be_v civil_a excommunication_n a_o kind_n of_o civil_a excommunication_n than_o ecclesiastical_a we_o will_v not_o be_v against_o they_o for_o the_o law_n of_o our_o city_n also_o do_v punish_v they_o with_o excommunication_n
eightenth_fw-mi chapter_n say_v that_o equal_a power_n and_o function_n be_v give_v unto_o all_o the_o minister_n of_o of_o the_o church_n and_o that_o from_o the_o begin_n no_o one_o prefer_v himself_o to_o a_o other_o save_v only_o that_o for_o order_n some_o one_o do_v call_v they_o together_o propound_v the_o matter_n that_o be_v to_o be_v consult_v of_o and_o gather_v the_o voice_n etc._n etc._n io._n whitgifte_n the_o word_n of_o the_o confession_n in_o the._n 17._o chapter_n be_v these_o true_o christ_n be_v present_a with_o his_o church_n and_o be_v a_o lyve_a head_n who_o straight_o forbid_v his_o apostle_n and_o their_o successor_n to_o challenge_v the_o primacy_n or_o supremacy_n in_o the_o church_n this_o the_o confession_n speak_v of_o such_o primacy_n &_o supremacy_n as_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n do_v challenge_v over_o the_o whole_a church_n for_o in_o that_o place_n it_o only_o speak_v of_o the_o pope_n usurp_a authority_n and_o not_o one_o word_n of_o that_o superiority_n among_o minister_n which_o be_v now_o in_o controversy_n that_o which_o the_o confession_n affirm_v in_o the_o eightenth_fw-mi chapter_n make_v nothing_o against_o any_o superiority_n allow_v in_o this_o church_n of_o england_n for_o we_o acknowledge_v that_o there_o be_v one_o equal_a power_n and_o function_n of_o all_o minister_n but_o yet_o superiority_n also_o to_o be_v among_o they_o for_o order_n sake_n and_o the_o same_o do_v the_o confession_n acknowledge_v in_o plain_a and_o manifest_a word_n even_o in_o this_o place_n by_o you_o allege_v whereby_o also_o that_o distinction_n be_v verify_v which_o you_o seem_v so_o great_o to_o mislike_v to_o wit_n that_o there_o be_v a_o equality_n of_o all_o minister_n of_o god_n word_n quoad_fw-la ministerium_fw-la touch_v the_o ministry_n but_o degree_n and_o superiority_n among_o they_o quoad_fw-la ordinem_fw-la &_o politiam_fw-la touch_v order_n and_o government_n t._n c._n musculus_fw-la in_o his_o common_a place_n in_o 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their_o right_a use_n again_o a_o man_n may_v then_o much_o more_o strong_o reason_n against_o your_o equality_n which_o by_o sufficient_a trial_n as_o by_o jerome_n in_o sundry_a place_n it_o may_v appear_v be_v prove_v to_o have_v be_v and_o to_o be_v the_o cause_n of_o schism_n sect_n contention_n sedition_n tumult_n murder_n confusion_n of_o church_n and_o common_a weal_n etc._n etc._n nothing_o be_v so_o well_o institute_v but_o it_o may_v be_v abuse_v t._n c._n 3_o that_o the_o election_n of_o minister_n perteyn_v not_o to_o one_o man_n the_o foresay_a helvetian_a confession_n etc._n etc._n in_o the_o eightenth_fw-mi chapter_n say_v that_o the_o minister_n ought_v to_o be_v choose_v of_o the_o church_n or_o by_o those_o which_o be_v lawful_o depute_v of_o the_o church_n and_o afterward_o ordain_v with_o public_a prayer_n io._n whitgifte_n this_o make_v against_o you_o for_o the_o confession_n allow_v that_o election_n of_o minister_n which_o be_v make_v by_o those_o that_o be_v appoint_v to_o that_o office_n in_o the_o church_n for_o these_o be_v the_o word_n of_o the_o confession_n but_o our_o bishop_n be_v appoint_v to_o that_o office_n in_o this_o church_n therefore_o the_o confession_n allow_v bishop_n to_o elect_v minister_n the_o word_n that_o follow_v that_o they_o shall_v be_v ordain_v with_o public_a prayer_n be_v observe_v in_o our_o church_n t._n c._n m._n caluine_n in_o his_o four_o book_n of_o institution_n 3._o chapter_n 15._o section_n show_v that_o the_o church_n do_v choose_v and_o that_o the_o apostle_n do_v moderate_v the_o election_n and_o confute_v they_o which_o upon_o the_o place_n of_o titus_n and_o timothy_n will_v prove_v that_o the_o election_n belong_v to_o one_o man_n io._n whitgifte_n to_o this_o place_n of_o m._n caluine_n i_o have_v sufficient_o answer_v in_o the_o third_o treatise_n of_o election_n of_o minister_n chap._n 7._o the._n 1._o division_n t._n c._n 4_o that_o there_o aught_o new_a to_o be_v elder_n to_o govern_v the_o church_n with_o the_o pastor_n and_o deacon_n to_o provide_v for_o the_o poor_a touch_v elder_n the_o judgement_n of_o m._n caluine_n have_v be_v before_o declare_v in_o the_o first_o of_o these_o proposition_n io._n whitgifte_n and_o in_o the_o same_o place_n have_v i_o answer_v that_o which_o be_v there_o by_o you_o allege_v out_o of_o m._n caluine_n t._n c._n m._n beza_n in_o his_o book_n of_o divorce_n page_n 161._o say_v that_o the_o eldership_n of_o the_o church_n ought_v to_o be_v where_o there_o be_v a_o christian_a magistrate_n io._n whitgifte_n m._n beza_n do_v not_o say_v in_o that_o place_n that_o the_o eldership_n of_o the_o church_n ought_v to_o be_v where_o there_o be_v a_o christian_a magistrate_n but_o that_o it_o may_v be_v and_o that_o it_o have_v be_v which_o he_o only_o speak_v and_o prove_v not_o and_o yet_o if_o he_o mean_v that_o presbytery_n whereof_o the_o canon_n speak_v by_o he_o only_o in_o generality_n name_v then_o be_v it_o no_o other_o than_o we_o have_v at_o this_o day_n in_o this_o church_n of_o england_n in_o cathedral_n church_n and_o college_n for_o in_o the_o canon_n presbyterium_fw-la signify_v nothing_o else_o but_o a_o college_n or_o company_n of_o priest_n and_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n as_o i_o have_v further_o declare_v in_o the._n 17._o tract_n where_o i_o have_v also_o show_v that_o m._n beza_n his_o opinion_n be_v that_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n may_v admit_v alteration_n according_a to_o the_o diversity_n of_o time_n place_n and_o person_n cap._n ult._n t._n c._n touch_v deacon_n m._n caluine_n 4._o book_n 3._o chapter_n 9_o section_n after_o that_o he_o have_v describe_v what_o deacon_n the_o church_n have_v in_o the_o apostle_n time_n say_v that_o we_o after_o their_o example_n ought_v to_o have_v the_o like_a io._n whitgifte_n m._n caluines_n word_n be_v these_o en_fw-fr quales_fw-la habuerit_fw-la diaconos_fw-la apostolica_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la quales_fw-la ad_fw-la 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use_v to_o lay_v on_o their_o hand_n so_o that_o this_o place_n of_o the_o book_n of_o number_n do_v command_v that_o which_o you_o will_v not_o admit_v and_o speak_v not_o one_o word_n of_o that_o for_o the_o which_o you_o do_v allege_v it_o but_o tell_v i_o in_o good_a earnest_n will_v you_o bind_v we_o to_o the_o observation_n of_o the_o ceremonial_a law_n also_o as_o you_o have_v do_v before_o to_o the_o judicial_a for_o what_o else_o be_v there_o in_o that_o whole_a chapter_n but_o law_n touch_v ceremony_n and_o in_o that_o place_n by_o you_o allege_v especial_o for_o there_o he_o speak_v of_o the_o manner_n of_o purify_n of_o the_o levite_n and_o of_o their_o offering_n he_o speak_v not_o of_o any_o election_n for_o god_n himself_o have_v choose_v the_o levite_n before_o for_o the_o first_o bear_v of_o the_o child_n of_o israel_n cap._n 3._o i_o will_v to_o god_n man_n will_v but_o indifferent_o consider_v how_o undiscréete_o you_o allege_v the_o scripture_n lest_o you_o shall_v 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to_o judaisme_n admit_v it_o as_o a_o perpetual_a commandment_n because_o i_o know_v the_o ceremonial_a law_n be_v abrogate_a except_o you_o will_v have_v all_o those_o ceremony_n which_o be_v use_v in_o that_o place_n and_o be_v contain_v in_o the_o same_o commandment_n as_o of_o sprinkle_v they_o with_o water_n of_o shave_v their_o body_n of_o wash_v their_o clothes_n of_o lay_v their_o hand_n on_o the_o head_n of_o bullock_n etc._n etc._n practise_v in_o order_v minister_n of_o the_o gospel_n neither_o be_v this_o any_o title_n of_o catabaptistrie_n but_o you_o smell_v of_o judaisme_n for_o you_o bind_v we_o before_o to_o the_o judicial_a law_n and_o now_o you_o will_v bind_v we_o to_o the_o ceremonial_a also_o what_o remain_v but_o to_o say_v that_o christ_n be_v not_o yet_o come_v circumcision_n be_v a_o figure_n of_o baptism_n but_o the_o leviticall_a priesthood_n be_v no_o figure_n of_o the_o ministry_n of_o the_o gospel_n therefore_o we_o may_v well_o prove_v the_o baptise_v 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and_o be_v able_a to_o discern_v the_o truth_n from_o falsehood_n you_o can_v no_o more_o prove_v therefore_o by_o this_o sentence_n that_o the_o parish_n can_v not_o err_v in_o choose_v their_o pastor_n than_o the_o pope_n may_v do_v that_o himself_o general_a counsel_n and_o the_o church_n can_v not_o err_v and_o sure_o the_o more_o i_o consider_v the_o matter_n the_o more_o i_o marvel_v what_o your_o meaning_n be_v in_o allege_v this_o text_n chapter_n 5._o the._n 3._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 33._o sect._n 2._o moreover_o reason_n and_o experience_n teach_v that_o it_o make_v much_o to_o the_o profit_v of_o the_o church_n under_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o pastor_n or_o bishop_n that_o the_o church_n love_v he_o and_o reverence_v he_o for_o the_o contempt_n and_o hatred_n of_o the_o minister_n for_o the_o most_o part_n stand_v not_o in_o his_o own_o person_n but_o reach_v even_o unto_o the_o doctrine_n which_o he_o teach_v but_o the_o minister_n that_o the_o church_n desire_v it_o 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n the_o whole_a canon_n be_v this_o nullum_fw-la absolutè_fw-la ordinari_fw-la debere_fw-la presbyterum_fw-la aut_fw-la diaconum_fw-la ńec_fw-la quemlibet_fw-la in_o gradu_fw-la ecclesiastico_fw-la nisi_fw-la specialiter_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la civitatis_fw-la aut_fw-la pagi_fw-la aut_fw-la in_o martyrio_fw-la aut_fw-la monasterio_fw-la qui_fw-la ordinandus_fw-la est_fw-la pronuncietur_fw-la qui_fw-la verò_fw-la absolutè_fw-la ordinantur_fw-la ▪_o decrevit_fw-la sancta_fw-la synodus_fw-la ▪_o con._n cbalce_v ▪_o cap._n 6._o act_n 15_o ▪_o irritam_fw-la haberi_fw-la viusmodi_fw-la manus_fw-la impositionem_fw-la &_o nusquà m_fw-la posse_fw-la ministrare_fw-la ad_fw-la ordinantis_fw-la ignominiam_fw-la whereby_o it_o be_v plain_a that_o the_o meaning_n of_o the_o council_n be_v to_o have_v none_o admit_v into_o any_o ecclesiastical_a degree_n except_o he_o have_v some_o thing_n to_o live_v upon_o and_o not_o that_o he_o must_v of_o necessity_n have_v some_o 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dicit_fw-la sive_fw-la possessionis_fw-la argumentum_fw-la quod_fw-la si_fw-la quis_fw-la habet_fw-la patrimonium_fw-la sufficiens_fw-la ordinari_fw-la potest_fw-la sine_fw-la titulo_fw-la a_o argument_n may_v also_o here_o be_v gather_v in_o that_o it_o say_v or_o of_o possession_n that_o if_o any_o have_v sufficient_a patrimony_n he_o may_v be_v ordain_v without_o a_o title_n but_o these_o word_n sieve_n in_o martyrio_fw-la sive_fw-la in_o monasterio_fw-la do_v manifest_o declare_v that_o the_o council_n will_v have_v none_o admit_v to_o any_o ecclesiastical_a function_n without_o some_o stay_n of_o live_v either_o of_o some_o benefice_n monastery_n college_n chapel_n his_o own_o possession_n or_o such_o like_a as_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n under_o the_o pope_n be_v at_o this_o day_n and_o yet_o if_o any_o man_n shall_v say_v that_o out_o o_o this_o canon_n there_o can_v be_v nothing_o gather_v but_o only_o this_o in_o what_o place_n those_o that_o be_v call_v to_o
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etc._n etc._n say_v thus_o the_o apostle_n be_v bishop_n prophet_n be_v interpreter_n of_o the_o scripture_n although_o in_o the_o begin_n there_o be_v prophet_n as_o agabus_n and_o the_o four_o virgin_n prophetess_n as_o it_o be_v in_o the_o act_n of_o the_o apostle_n etc._n etc._n yet_o now_o interpreter_n be_v call_v prophet_n evangelist_n be_v ephe._n bucerin_n 4._o ephe._n deacon_n as_o philip_n for_o although_o they_o be_v no_o priest_n yet_o may_v they_o preach_v the_o gospel_n without_o a_o chair_n as_o both_o stephanus_n and_o philippe_n before_o name_v bucer_n upon_o the_o ult._n fol._n 42._o sect_n ult._n same_o place_n say_v that_o there_o be_v evangelist_n now_o and_o you_o yourself_o fol._n 42._o confess_v that_o hus_n jerome_n of_o prage_n luther_n zuinglius_fw-la etc._n etc._n be_v evangelist_n peter_n martyr_n in_o his_o martyr_n p._n martyr_n commentary_n upon_o the._n 12._o to_o the_o roman_n say_v that_o the_o apostle_n there_o describe_v those_o function_n and_o 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apostle_n prophet_n evangelist_n byshoppe_n etc._n etc._n and_o speak_v of_o prophet_n it_o say_v the_o prophet_n in_o time_n paste_n foresee_a thing_n to_o come_v be_v call_v seer_n who_o be_v expounder_n of_o the_o scripture_n also_o as_o some_o be_v even_o now_o a_o day_n evangelist_n be_v writer_n of_o the_o history_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o preacher_n also_o of_o the_o glad_a tiding_n of_o christ_n his_o gospel_n as_o paul_n bid_v timothy_n do_v the_o work_n of_o a_o euangeliste_n etc._n etc._n so_o that_o to_o say_v that_o there_o be_v in_o the_o church_n apostles_n prophet_n and_o evangelist_n in_o such_o sense_n as_o i_o have_v declare_v be_v no_o strange_a divinity_n to_o such_o as_o be_v divine_n in_o deed_n but_o let_v we_o hear_v your_o reason_n chap._n 3._o the._n 2._o division_n t._n c._n page_n 45._o sect._n 1._o 2._o 3._o 4._o and_o that_o you_o may_v have_v some_o thing_n to_o do_v more_o than_o peradventure_o you_o think_v of_o when_o you_o write_v these_o word_n 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sect._n 3_o touch_v the_o behalf_n of_o god_n and_o his_o glory_n if_o any_o man_n will_v say_v that_o they_o can_v not_o perish_v which_o once_o have_v believe_v and_o therefore_o those_o may_v be_v leave_v and_o other_o attempt_v i_o can_v say_v of_o those_o that_o be_v in_o ignorance_n and_o blindness_n that_o they_o can_v not_o perish_v that_o be_v elect_v although_o they_o never_o have_v the_o gospel_n preach_v and_o therefore_o we_o must_v walk_v in_o those_o way_n that_o god_n have_v appoint_v to_o bring_v they_o to_o salvation_n which_o be_v to_o feed_v they_o continual_o and_o watch_v over_o they_o so_o long_o as_o they_o be_v in_o danger_n of_o hunger_n in_o danger_n of_o wolf_n in_o danger_n of_o the_o enemy_n within_o and_o without_o which_o be_v so_o long_o as_o the_o church_n be_v here_o upon_o the_o earth_n io._n whitgifte_n god_n forbid_v that_o any_o man_n shall_v use_v any_o such_o kind_n of_o excuse_n to_o take_v away_o the_o mean_n whereby_o god_n use_v to_o call_v 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chapter_n 1._o the._n 15._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 49._o sect._n ult._n again_o if_o he_o will_v say_v that_o then_o they_o may_v not_o go_v forth_o of_o the_o town_n to_o do_v their_o necessary_a business_n â–ª_o here_o you_o overthrow_v all_o your_o former_a build_n â–ª_o john_n â—1_n john_n for_o their_o family_n i_o desire_v they_o in_o the_o name_n of_o god_n y_z t_z they_o abuse_v not_o his_o grace_n in_o devise_v cloak_n to_o cover_v their_o disorder_n but_o that_o they_o will_v set_v before_o they_o the_o love_n of_o christ_n which_o shall_v be_v find_v to_o the_o so_o much_o as_o they_o shall_v show_v themselves_o diligent_a in_o continual_a feed_v their_o flock_n &_o to_o fear_v the_o judgement_n of_o god_n before_o who_o no_o feign_a or_o colour_a excuse_n will_v stand_v and_o so_o i_o trust_v they_o will_v make_v no_o long_o absence_n than_o must_v needs_o and_o if_o upon_o any_o occasion_n at_o any_o time_n they_o be_v somewhat_o long_o that_o the_o same_o be_v not_o 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cause_n shall_v be_v there_o hear_v where_o the_o fault_n be_v commit_v and_o a_o little_a after_o he_o say_v it_o be_v meet_v to_o handle_v the_o matter_n there_o where_o they_o may_v have_v both_o accuser_n and_o witness_n of_o the_o fault_n which_o although_o it_o be_v speak_v of_o they_o which_o flee_v out_o of_o africa_n unto_o rome_n yet_o the_o reason_n be_v general_a and_o do_v aswell_o serve_v against_o these_o ecclesiastical_a person_n which_o will_v take_v unto_o they_o the_o decide_n of_o those_o controversy_n that_o be_v do_v a_o hundred_o mile_n of_o they_o io._n whitgifte_n cyprian_n as_o i_o say_v speak_v not_o one_o word_n of_o your_o signiory_n &_o in_o that_o place_n by_o you_o alleage_n he_o speak_v of_o the_o several_a province_n ▪_o 〈◊〉_d diocese_n of_o every_o bishop_n &_o will_v have_v every_o matter_n end_v in_o that_o province_n 〈◊〉_d diocese_n where_o it_o be_v commit_v &_o therefore_o he_o speak_v there_o of_o such_o as_o flee_v out_o of_o africa_n into_o 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diverse_a province_n yea_o diverse_a country_n and_o nation_n this_o be_v no_o good_a reason_n cyprian_n mislike_v the_o translate_n of_o cause_n from_o africa_n to_o rome_n ergo_fw-la there_o may_v be_v no_o cause_n remove_v from_o northampton_n to_o london_n chap._n 3._o the._n 13._o division_n t._n c._n page_n 77._o sect._n 5._o and_o whereas_o m._n doctor_n in_o both_o place_n of_o cyprian_a seem_v to_o stand_v much_o upon_o the_o word_n one_o bishop_n and_o priest_n the_o reason_n thereof_o do_v appear_v in_o another_o place_n of_o cyprian_n most_o manifest_o 13_o l_o 3._o epi._n 13_o and_o that_o it_o make_v no_o more_o to_o prove_v that_o there_o ought_v to_o be_v one_o archebishop_n over_o a_o whole_a province_n than_o to_o say_v that_o there_o ought_v to_o be_v but_o one_o husband_n prove_v that_o therefore_o there_o shall_v be_v but_o one_o husband_n in_o every_o country_n or_o province_n which_o shall_v see_v that_o all_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o husband_n do_v their_o duty_n 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and_o hierome_n say_v that_o y_fw-es e_fw-es cause_v why_o among_o y_z e_z bishops_z one_z be_v choose_v to_o govern_v y_z e_o rest_n be_v to_o remedy_v schism_n do_v you_o not_o perceive_v how_o these_o two_o father_n join_v in_o one_o truth_n &_o direct_o affirm_v y_z e_o self_n same_o matter_n it_o be_v true_a y_fw-mi t_o time_n corrupt_v &_o therefore_o much_o more_o occasion_n be_v offer_v to_o appoint_v government_n according_a to_o y_z e_z time_n lest_o the_o corruption_n prevail_v &_o get_v the_o upper_a hand_n &_o for_o this_o cause_n hierome_n say_v that_o upon_o these_o corruption_n of_o time_n the_o church_n be_v constrain_v to_o appoint_v this_o order_n chap._n 3._o the._n 17._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 79._o sect._n 3_o and_o here_o i_o must_v put_v m._n doctor_n in_o remembrance_n how_o unfit_o he_o have_v dedicate_v his_o book_n unto_o y_z e_o church_n which_o have_v so_o patch_v it_o &_o peece_v it_o of_o a_o number_n of_o shredde_n of_o the_o doctor_n y_fw-fr t_o 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whatsoever_o be_v latter_a hierome_n &_o you_o confess_v y_z t_o this_o be_v first_o that_z y_z e_z bishop_z be_v all_o one_o with_o y_z e_z elder_n &_o first_o also_o by_o y_z e_z falsify_v tertullians_n meaning_n falsify_v word_n of_o god_n they_o i_o conclude_v y_fw-fr t_z that_o be_v true_a you_o both_o do_v likewise_o confess_v y_z t_z it_o come_v after_o that_o one_o bare_a rule_n over_o the_o rest_n than_o i_o conclude_v y_z e_z that_o be_v false_a for_o all_o that_o be_v false_a that_o be_v latter_a furthermore_o hierome_n in_o the_o same_o place_n of_o titus_n say_v after_o this_o sort_n as_z y_z e_z elder_n know_v themselves_o to_o be_v subject_a by_o a_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n unto_o he_o that_o be_v set_v over_o they_o so_o the_o bishop_n must_v know_v that_o they_o be_v great_a than_o the_o elder_n rather_o by_o custom_n than_o by_o any_o truth_n of_o the_o instatution_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o so_o they_o ought_v to_o govern_v the_o church_n in_o common_a io._n 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day_n herein_o you_o have_v apt_o describe_v your_o own_o nature_n it_o be_v a_o token_n of_o at_o nature_n dispose_v to_o no_o great_a quietness_n which_o rather_o than_o he_o will_v not_o strive_v strive_v with_o himself_o io._n whitgifte_n whither_o i_o accuse_v they_o just_o or_o no_o i_o shall_v refer_v it_o to_o the_o reader_n to_o judge_v after_o i_o have_v set_v down_o their_o very_a word_n which_o indeed_o no_o christian_a care_n can_v patient_o hear_v pag._n 157._o they_o say_v thus_o reading_n be_v not_o feed_v but_o it_o be_v as_o evil_a as_o play_v upon_o a_o stage_n and_o worse_o to_o which_o word_n if_o they_o be_v well_o mark_v and_o join_v with_o the_o reason_n that_o follow_v for_o player_n yet_o learn_v their_o part_n without_o book_n etc._n etc._n must_v needs_o signify_v a_o mer_fw-fr contempt_n of_o read_v the_o scripture_n and_o a_o mind_n that_o think_v lesie_n edify_v to_o come_v by_o read_v than_o by_o play_v upon_o a_o stage_n which_o be_v a_o untolerable_a 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city_n and_o although_o in_o a_o city_n yet_o not_o in_o a_o realm_n io._n whitgifte_n if_o you_o will_v so_o divide_v these_o several_a city_n and_o church_n in_o one_o kingdom_n that_o they_o be_v not_o under_o one_o governoure_n rule_v by_o the_o same_o law_n member_n of_o one_o kingdom_n but_o every_o one_o of_o they_o as_o it_o be_v a_o common_a wealth_n within_o itself_o as_o it_o be_v in_o 〈◊〉_d scon_n spoil_v 〈◊〉_d of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d several_a church_n within_o one_o kingdom_n in_o the_o time_n of_o persecution_n than_o it_o be_v true_a that_o you_o say_v and_o in_o this_o case_n be_v the_o primitive_a church_n and_o so_o be_v the_o church_n in_o france_n but_o when_o as_o all_o the_o town_n and_o church_n in_o one_o kingdom_n be_v subject_a as_o well_o in_o cause_n ecclesiastical_a as_o civil_a to_o one_o prince_n rule_v by_o the_o same_o law_n etc._n etc._n then_o can_v you_o not_o establish_v this_o your_o signiory_n without_o great_a confusion_n and_o untollerable_a injury_n to_o the_o minister_n of_o god_n i_o mean_v the_o christian_a magistrate_n the_o authority_n of_o the_o master_n of_o the_o household_n over_o his_o family_n derogate_v nothing_o from_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o prince_n but_o do_v confirm_v and_o establish_v it_o rather_o but_o the_o authority_n of_o your_o senior_n in_o every_o congregation_n spoil_v the_o prince_n of_o his_o jurisdiction_n and_o make_v he_o subject_a where_o he_o ought_v to_o be_v ruler_n and_o therefore_o your_o reason_n be_v not_o like_a chap._n 2._o the._n 13._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 143._o sect._n 3_o to_o be_v short_a say_v he_o when_o he_o can_v say_v no_o more_o it_o can_v be_v govern_v when_o it_o be_v full_a of_o hypocrite_n papist_n atheist_n and_o other_o wicked_a person_n as_o in_o the_o time_n of_o persecution_n when_o there_o be_v few_o or_o none_o such_o i_o have_v show_v before_o how_o great_a want_n of_o knowledge_n it_o bewray_v to_o say_v that_o papist_n and_o atheist_n be_v of_o the_o church_n and_o i_o love_v not_o as_o m._n doctor_n both_o to_o use_v often_o reperition_n but_o if_o there_o be_v now_o more_o hypocrite_n and_o other_o wicked_a and_o unruly_a person_n in_o the_o church_n than_o there_o be_v in_o the_o time_n of_o persecution_n which_o i_o will_v not_o deny_v then_o there_o be_v great_a cause_n noro_fw-mi why_o there_o shall_v be_v senior_n in_o every_o church_n than_o there_o be_v then_o when_o there_o be_v few_o for_o the_o more_o naughty_a person_n and_o the_o great_a disorder_n there_o be_v the_o more_o aid_n and_o help_n have_v the_o pastor_n need_v to_o have_v both_o to_o find_v out_o their_o disorder_n and_o also_o when_o they_o have_v find_v they_o out_o to_o judge_v of_o the_o quality_n of_o they_o and_o after_o also_o to_o correct_v they_o with_o the_o censute_v of_o the_o church_n which_o
person_n that_o be_v call_v to_o a_o lawful_a and_o a_o public_a function_n as_o he_o do_v upon_o saul_n yet_o do_v he_o not_o always_o so_o god_n do_v not_o of_o necessity_n tie_v his_o grace_n to_o mean_n god_n bestoa_o w_v his_o gift_n by_o mean_n office_n for_o as_o he_o in_o the_o begin_n of_o his_o church_n miraculous_o bestow_v his_o gift_n so_o do_v he_o now_o leave_v the_o same_o by_o outward_a mean_n in_o part_n to_o be_v obtain_v as_o by_o education_n learning_n instruction_n read_v studying_z etc._n etc._n which_o mean_v be_v neglect_v god_n do_v of_o his_o justice_n permit_v evil_a magistrate_n and_o officer_n which_o he_o also_o sometime_o do_v for_o the_o offence_n of_o the_o people_n as_o may_v be_v see_v in_o the_o most_o part_n of_o the_o king_n of_o juda_n and_o of_o jerusalem_n and_o almost_o in_o all_o christian_n prince_n and_o governor_n under_o the_o pope_n tyranny_n for_o i_o suppose_v you_o mean_v such_o gift_n as_o be_v profitable_a for_o the_o church_n sure_o if_o this_o be_v true_a that_o you_o here_o so_o bold_o without_o proof_n affirm_v than_o shall_v it_o not_o much_o skill_n what_o kind_n of_o man_n be_v choose_v to_o be_v either_o pastor_n or_o magistrate_n for_o howsoever_o they_o be_v before_o furnish_v with_o gift_n yet_o when_o they_o be_v once_o ply_v the_o absurdity_n of_o the_o r_o ply_v call_v god_n will_v miraculous_o pour_v upon_o they_o gift_n necessary_a though_o they_o be_v the_o rude_a and_o ignorant_a man_n in_o a_o whole_a country_n be_v not_o this_o to_o boast_v of_o the_o spirit_n as_o the_o anabaptist_n do_v but_o i_o think_v the_o reader_n understand_v that_o god_n now_o work_v by_o ord_n narie_a mean_n not_o by_o miracle_n and_o though_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o god_n do_v endue_v magistrate_n such_o as_o fear_v he_o with_o singular_a gift_n yet_o do_v he_o it_o by_o mean_n as_o be_v say_v and_o it_o be_v not_o at_o all_o time_n so_o nor_o in_o all_o person_n but_o when_o where_o and_o in_o who_o it_o please_v he_o therefore_o to_o ground_n any_o general_a doctrine_n upon_o singular_a example_n or_o to_o establish_v a_o external_a kind_n of_o government_n upon_o god_n inward_a and_o secret_a work_n to_o bind_v god_n unto_o that_o of_o necessity_n that_o he_o do_v bestow_v of_o grace_n and_o mercy_n to_o make_v that_o common_a to_o all_o which_o he_o of_o his_o infinite_a wisdom_n bestow_v upon_o some_o be_v not_o the_o part_n of_o a_o skilful_a divine_a but_o to_o let_v all_o this_o pass_n you_o do_v still_o petere_fw-la principium_fw-la and_o take_v that_o as_o grant_v which_o you_o can_v prove_v that_o be_v that_o the_o office_n of_o senior_n be_v a_o office_n establish_v in_o the_o church_n by_o the_o commandment_n of_o god_n and_o not_o to_o be_v alter_v which_o i_o for_o my_o part_n can_v never_o grant_v unto_o you_o except_o you_o have_v more_o pithy_a reason_n to_o prove_v it_o than_o any_o that_o you_o have_v as_o yet_o utter_v chap._n 2._o the._n 17._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 144._o lin._n 26._o &_o sect._n 1._o 2._o it_o be_v true_a that_o we_o ought_v to_o be_v obedient_a unto_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n which_o govern_v the_o church_n of_o god_n in_o that_o office_n which_o be_v commit_v unto_o he_o and_o according_a to_o that_o call_n but_o it_o must_v be_v remember_v that_o 〈◊〉_d magistrate_n must_v govern_v it_o according_a to_o the_o rule_n of_o god_n prescribe_v in_o his_o word_n and_o that_o as_o they_o be_v nourise_n so_o they_o be_v servant_n unto_o the_o church_n and_o as_o they_o rule_v in_o the_o church_n so_o they_o must_v remember_v to_o subject_v themselves_o unto_o the_o church_n to_o submit_v their_o sceptre_n to_o throw_v down_o their_o crown_n before_o the_o church_n yea_o as_o the_o prophet_n speak_v to_o lick_v 49._o esay_n 49._o the_o dust_n of_o the_o foot_n of_o the_o church_n wherein_o i_o mean_v not_o that_o the_o church_n do_v either_o wring_v the_o sceptre_n out_o of_o prince_n hand_n or_o take_v their_o crown_n from_o their_o head_n or_o that_o it_o require_v prince_n to_o lick_v the_o dust_n of_o her_o foot_n as_o the_o pope_n under_o this_o pretence_n have_v do_v but_o i_o mean_v as_o the_o prophet_n mean_v that_o what_o soever_o magnificence_n or_o excellency_n or_o pomp_n be_v either_o in_o they_o or_o in_o their_o estate_n and_o common_a wealth_n which_o do_v not_o agree_v with_o the_o simplicity_n and_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o world_n poor_a and_o contemptible_a estate_n of_o the_o church_n that_o that_o they_o will_v be_v content_a to_o lay_v down_o and_o here_o come_v to_o my_o mind_n that_o wherewith_o the_o world_n be_v now_o dec_fw-la ive_v and_o wherewith_o m._n doctor_n go_v about_o both_o to_o deceyve_v himself_o &_o other_o too_o in_o that_o he_o think_v that_o the_o church_n must_v be_v frame_v according_a to_o the_o common_a wealth_n and_o the_o church_n government_n according_a to_o the_o vill_a government_n doctrine_n government_n a_o dangerous_a doctrine_n which_o be_v as_o much_o to_o say_v as_o if_o a_o man_n shall_v fashion_v his_o house_n according_a to_o his_o hang_n when_o as_o indeed_o it_o be_v clean_o contrary_a that_o as_o the_o hang_n be_v make_v fit_a for_o the_o house_n so_o the_o common_a wealth_n must_v be_v make_v to_o agree_v with_o the_o church_n and_o the_o government_n thereof_o with_o her_o government_n for_o as_o the_o house_n be_v before_o the_o hang_n and_o therefore_o the_o hang_n which_o come_v after_o must_v be_v frame_v to_o the_o house_n which_o be_v before_o so_o the_o church_n be_v before_o there_o be_v y_o common_a wealth_n and_o the_o common_a wealth_n come_v after_o must_v be_v fashion_v and_o make_v suitable_a unto_o the_o church_n otherwise_o god_n be_v make_v to_o give_v place_n to_o man_n heaven_n to_o earth_n and_o religion_n be_v make_v as_o it_o be_v a_o rule_n of_o lesbian_n to_o be_v apply_v unto_o any_o estate_n of_o common_a wealth_n whatsoever_o see_v argument_n see_v an_fw-mi obscu_fw-mi e_o and_o deform_a argument_n that_o good_a man_n that_o be_v to_o say_v the_o church_n be_v as_o it_o be_v the_o foundation_n of_o the_o world_n it_o be_v meet_v that_o the_o common_a wealth_n which_o be_v build_v upon_o that_o foundation_n shall_v be_v frame_v according_a to_o the_o church_n and_o therefore_o those_o voice_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v hear_v this_o order_n will_v not_o agree_v with_o our_o common_a wealth_n that_o law_n of_o god_n be_v not_o for_o our_o state_n this_o form_n of_o government_n will_v not_o match_v with_o the_o policy_n of_o this_o realm_n io._n whitgifte_n these_o word_n will_v be_v well_o consider_v for_o they_o contain_v the_o overthrow_n of_o the_o reply_n the_o overthrow_n of_o the_o prince_n autho_fw-mi ritie_n contain_v in_o the_o reply_n princess_n authority_n both_o in_o ecclesiastical_a and_o civil_a matter_n but_o i_o will_v only_o give_v a_o brief_a note_n of_o they_o in_o this_o place_n mean_v to_o set_v forth_o this_o matter_n more_o at_o large_a elsewhere_o when_o he_o say_v that_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n must_v govern_v according_a to_o his_o call_n and_o according_a to_o the_o rule_n of_o god_n prescribe_v in_o his_o word_n etc._n etc._n although_o the_o word_n be_v true_a et_fw-fr if_o you_o mark_v upon_o what_o occasion_n they_o be_v speak_v you_o shall_v perceive_v the_o venom_n that_o lie_v hide_v under_o they_o for_o he_o do_v thereby_o insinuate_v that_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n may_v not_o intermeddle_v with_o the_o office_n of_o the_o senior_n that_o be_v with_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n for_o he_o take_v senior_n to_o be_v the_o officer_n appoint_v by_o god_n for_o that_o purpose_n which_o be_v to_o be_v reave_v the_o civil_a magistrate_n of_o his_o authority_n and_o to_o give_v that_o to_o senior_n which_o the_o pope_n under_o the_o like_a pretence_n do_v arrogate_v unto_o himself_o and_o therefore_o join_a will_v and_o true_o say_v m._n gualther_n in_o the_o place_n before_o recite_v those_o man_n mean_v such_o as_o gualther_n gualther_n call_v for_o senior_n when_o they_o have_v a_o christian_a magistrate_n do_v distinguish_v between_o the_o ecclesiastical_a and_o civil_a jurisdiction_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o punishment_n of_o sin_n and_o the_o discipline_n of_o manner_n but_o this_o distinction_n be_v take_v out_o of_o the_o pope_n shop_n and_o in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n it_o be_v not_o where_o to_o be_v find_v for_o there_o be_v the_o same_o reason_n of_o the_o magistrate_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n that_o be_v in_o time_n pass_v in_o the_o old_a for_o so_o much_o as_o christ_n have_v say_v that_o he_o come_v not_o to_o break_v the_o law_n but_o to_o fulfil_v it_o but_o in_o time_n past_o the_o judge_n and_o king_n have_v power_n to_o punish_v those_o that_o
offend_a neither_o do_v the_o priest_n or_o prophet_n thrust_v themselves_o into_o that_o business_n but_o so_o far_o forth_o as_o perteyn_v to_o admonition_n and_o reprehension_n which_o they_o apply_v out_o of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n according_a to_o the_o quality_n of_o the_o offence_n therefore_o the_o same_o must_v be_v observe_v in_o the_o new_a testament_n neither_o be_v it_o needful_a that_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n shall_v have_v a_o peculiar_a senate_n or_o that_o they_o shall_v challenge_v unto_o themselves_o by_o any_o mean_v those_o thing_n that_o belong_v to_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n m._n gualters_n meaning_n be_v that_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n can_v challenge_v the_o authority_n of_o pu_fw-fr sh_v vice_n otherwise_o than_o by_o admonition_n and_o reprehension_n that_o be_v that_o they_o can_v challenge_v this_o kind_n of_o government_n of_o a_o signiory_n by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n because_o all_o such_o authority_n be_v commit_v to_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n so_o that_o if_o bishop_n have_v it_o they_o must_v have_v it_o from_o he_o as_o it_o be_v in_o this_o church_n of_o england_n and_o therefore_o well_o say_v m_n gualther_n in_o the_o same_o place_n there_o may_v be_v appoint_v such_o as_o shall_v have_v the_o correction_n of_o manner_n in_o such_o country_n where_o the_o ordinary_a magistrate_n can_v do_v all_o themselves_o but_o those_o must_v be_v appoint_v by_o the_o magistrate_n and_o do_v all_o at_o his_o commandment_n and_o not_o usurp_v any_o distinct_a jurisdiction_n from_o the_o ordinary_a magistrate_n the_o second_o point_n to_o be_v note_v be_v when_o he_o say_v that_o christian_a prince_n must_v subject_n replyer_n the_o prince_n make_v subject_a to_o senior_n by_o the_o replyer_n themselves_o to_o the_o church_n submit_v their_o sceptre_n throw_v down_o their_o crown_n before_o the_o church_n etc._n etc._n the_o which_o kind_n of_o speech_n the_o pope_n himself_o use_v and_o under_o the_o same_o pretence_n have_v tread_v king_n under_o his_o foot_n and_o although_o t._n c._n seem_v to_o mislike_v this_o excessive_a use_v of_o authority_n by_o the_o pope_n yet_o will_v be_v have_v the_o same_o jurisdiction_n to_o remain_v to_o his_o senior_n his_o ill_a who_o be_v understand_v by_o the_o name_n of_o the_o church_n as_o appear_v in_o that_o which_o he_o speak_v before_o of_o these_o word_n of_o christ_n dic_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la so_o end_n pag._n 140._o in_o the_o latter_a end_n that_o he_o will_v have_v the_o prince_n subject_n herself_o to_o the_o senior_n of_o the_o church_n and_o throw_v down_o her_o crown_n before_o they_o that_o be_v to_o be_v con_fw-mi ent_v to_o be_v rule_v and_o govern_v to_o be_v punish_v and_o correct_v to_o be_v excommunicate_v and_o absolve_v by_o their_o discretion_n and_o at_o their_o pleasure_n this_o no_o doubt_n be_v his_o meaning_n neither_o can_v it_o otherwise_o be_v for_o if_o this_o kind_n of_o government_n be_v once_o admit_v the_o 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unconstant_a minister_n &_o that_o the_o common_a sort_n of_o people_n be_v not_o much_o better_o affect_v so_o that_o alteration_n in_o doctrine_n partial_a deal_n in_o discipline_n undiscrete_a exhortation_n and_o admonition_n will_v trouble_v the_o whole_a church_n &_o set_v all_o the_o land_n together_o by_o the_o ear_n how_o contemptible_a in_o the_o end_n this_o kind_n of_o government_n will_v be_v &_o how_o little_o esteem_v neglect_v 9_o it_o will_v in_o the_o end_n be_v contemn_v &_o so_o good_a order_n neglect_v wise_a man_n can_v consider_v and_o m._n gualther_n well_o set_v out_o this_o inconvenience_n in_o these_o word_n for_o they_o which_o can_v be_v bring_v into_o good_a order_n by_o the_o authority_n of_o a_o lawful_a magistrate_n &_o by_o law_n much_o less_o will_v suffer_v themselves_o to_o be_v punish_v by_o the_o commandment_n of_o senior_n and_o of_o a_o ecclesiastical_a senate_n who_o with_o all_o their_o solemnity_n they_o will_v 5._o gualther_n in_o cor._n 5._o laugh_v to_o scorn_v on_o the_o other_o side_n they_o which_o among_o the_o magistrate_n be_v remiss_a in_o execute_v the_o discipline_n of_o manner_n and_o be_v too_o favourable_a will_v now_o be_v glad_a that_o this_o burden_n be_v transfer_v from_o they_o to_o other_o and_o will_v whole_o neglect_v it_o and_o what_o will_v the_o senior_n do_v when_o these_o man_n will_v not_o meddle_v sure_o they_o will_v be_v a_o laugh_a stock_n to_o a_o great_a many_o while_o hare_n will_v prescribe_v to_o lion_n a_o law_n and_o weaklinge_n will_v keep_v fierce_a tyrant_n in_o awe_n as_o the_o poet_n record_v many_o also_o of_o the_o magistrate_n will_v not_o only_a wink_n at_o this_o but_o will_v laugh_v in_o their_o sleeve_n at_o the_o weak_a and_o ridiculous_a domination_n of_o the_o new_a senate_n it_o will_v therefore_o so_o come_v to_o pass_v that_o whereas_o before_o there_o be_v at_o the_o least_o some_o discipline_n &_o sometime_o some_o be_v terrify_v by_o mulcte_n and_o example_n of_o punishment_n now_o that_o also_o be_v take_v away_o impunity_n will_v begin_v to_o reign_v with_o a_o great_a and_o public_a contempt_n of_o the_o sacred_a ministry_n neither_o do_v i_o ☜_o ☜_o speak_v these_o thing_n unaduised_o for_o example_n do_v teach_v we_o that_o these_o thing_n be_v do_v which_o be_v so_o notorious_o know_v to_o all_o man_n that_o i_o need_v not_o to_o speak_v any_o more_o of_o these_o thing_n but_o if_o in_o this_o immoderate_a licentiousness_n those_o senior_n shall_v proceed_v to_o excommunicate_v all_o those_o which_o set_v themselves_o against_o they_o it_o be_v to_o be_v fear_v least_o at_o the_o length_n there_o be_v a_o great_a number_n of_o excommunicate_v person_n than_o of_o those_o which_o do_v communicate_v with_o the_o church_n wherefore_o let_v the_o senior_n tell_v i_o what_o they_o think_v meet_v then_o to_o be_v do_v i_o suppose_v they_o will_v answer_v it_o shall_v they_o be_v needful_a to_o have_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o magistrate_n that_o he_o may_v correct_v those_o wicked_a man_n which_o by_o their_o malepertnesse_n and_o rashness_n do_v overthrow_v the_o church_n i_o agree_v also_o to_o this_o counsel_n but_o if_o this_o thing_n ought_v then_o to_o be_v do_v when_o as_o it_o can_v scarce_o be_v without_o public_a danger_n why_o be_v not_o the_o authority_n leave_v whole_o unto_o the_o magistrate_n &_o the_o whole_a government_n of_o public_a discipline_n commit_v to_o he_o before_o the_o matter_n come_v to_o this_o extremity_n hitherto_o gualther_n it_o will_v bring_v in_o too_o great_a extremity_n of_o punishment_n for_o whereas_o neither_o god_n nor_o fault_n 10._o double_a punishment_n for_o one_o fault_n man_n nor_o any_o law_n do_v punish_v one_o man_n twice_o for_o one_o &_o y_o e_o self_n same_o fact_n &_o it_o be_v against_o y_o e_o liberty_n of_o well_o order_v country_n to_o be_v subject_a to_o the_o punishmêt_fw-fr of_o two_o diverse_a magistrate_n by_o establish_v this_o signiory_n this_o burden_n must_v be_v lay_v upon_o the_o people_n neck_n for_o let_v the_o magistrate_n punish_v according_a to_o the_o law_n as_o severe_o as_o he_o can_v yet_o you_o e_o signiory_n will_v remit_v nothing_o of_o their_o censure_n but_o proceed_v according_a to_o their_o manner_n as_o it_o may_v be_v see_v in_o the._n 2._o admonition_n fol._n 47._o and_o sure_o as_o m._n gualther_n 5._o gualther_n in_o 1._o cor._n 5._o say_v speak_v of_o this_o inconvenience_n of_o the_o signiory_n in_o the_o former_a place_n it_o seem_v to_o we_o altogether_o very_o dangerous_a to_o appoint_v two_o magistrate_n over_o one_o people_n neither_o see_v we_o any_o example_n whereby_o this_o may_v be_v prove_v and_o sure_o i_o willing_o and_o free_o confess_v that_o i_o can_v perceyve_v how_o profitable_a it_o will_v be_v i_o omit_v to_o put_v you_o in_o mind_n how_o dangerous_a namely_o in_o these_o day_n alteration_n of_o etc._n 11._o alteration_n in_o this_o time_n dangerous_a etc._n etc._n government_n &_o change_n of_o state_n be_v in_o establish_a common_a wealth_n likewise_o how_o unreasonable_a a_o thing_n it_o be_v to_o enforce_v the_o civil_a magistrate_n to_o suffer_v in_o his_o dominion_n so_o many_o several_a kind_n of_o government_n order_n ceremony_n etc._n etc._n in_o the_o church_n as_o there_o be_v parish_n also_o how_o unséemely_a it_o be_v to_o deliver_v his_o sword_n out_o of_o his_o own_o hand_n &_o to_o commit_v it_o to_o the_o discretion_n of_o the_o common_a sort_n &_o multitude_n in_o every_o several_a parish_n to_o displace_v noble_a man_n gentleman_n wise_a learned_a and_o discrete_a man_n &_o commit_v the_o whole_a government_n of_o the_o church_n to_o m._n pastor_n &_o his_o ignorant_a neighbour_n the_o absurdity_n &_o incovenience_n that_o of_o necessity_n must_v ensue_v of_o this_o kind_n of_o government_n where_o there_o be_v a_o christian_a magistrate_n be_v infinite_a &_o wise_a man_n may_v easy_o conceyve_v the_o rest_n
by_o that_o which_o i_o have_v here_o already_o speak_v yet_o will_v i_o not_o have_v any_o man_n to_o think_v that_o i_o condemn_v any_o church_n where_o this_o government_n be_v lawful_o &_o without_o danger_n receyve_v only_o i_o have_v regard_n to_o whole_a kingdom_n especial_o this_o realm_n where_o it_o can_v but_o be_v dangerous_a ¶_o that_o there_o be_v no_o one_o certain_a kind_n of_o government_n in_o the_o church_n which_o must_v of_o necessity_n be_v perpetual_o observe_v chap._n 4._o i_o know_v it_o will_v be_v object_v that_o y_fw-fr e_o ordinance_n of_o god_n must_v take_v place_n whatsoever_o inconvenience_n follow_v &_o that_o this_o kind_n of_o government_n be_v the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n &_o therefore_o may_v not_o for_o any_o respect_n be_v omit_v but_o i_o have_v deny_v &_o sufficient_o declare_v before_o y_fw-fr t_o this_o kind_n of_o government_n be_v no_o where_n in_o scripture_n command_v &_o that_o it_o neither_o be_v nor_o can_v be_v perpetual_a and_o 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worthy_a of_o double_a honour_n etc._n etc._n so_o that_o i_o marvel_v how_o any_o man_n can_v of_o those_o word_n conclude_v either_o such_o a_o signiory_n as_o now_o be_v division_n chap._n 1._o the._n 1._o division_n imagine_v or_o any_o perpetuity_n of_o it_o but_o of_o this_o place_n i_o have_v speak_v before_o second_o it_o be_v well_o know_v that_o the_o manner_n &_o form_n of_o government_n use_v in_o the_o apostle_n exercise_v 2._o the_o government_n in_o the_o apostle_n time_n can_v now_o be_v exercise_v time_n &_o express_v in_o the_o scripture_n neither_o be_v now_o nor_o can_v or_o aught_o to_o be_v observe_v either_o touch_v the_o person_n or_o the_o function_n for_o we_o have_v neither_o apostle_n prophet_n worker_n of_o miracle_n gift_n of_o heal_a diversity_n of_o tongue_n widow_n or_o such_o like_a all_o which_o perteyn_v to_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n in_o the_o apostle_n time_n and_o be_v part_n of_o it_o as_z appeareth_z â–ª_o 1._o cor._n 12._o eph._n 4._o 1._o tim._n 5._o and_o see_v that_o the_o church_n be_v not_o bind_v to_o this_o form_n so_o plain_o express_v in_o these_o place_n of_o scripture_n i_o see_v not_o how_o you_o can_v bind_v it_o to_o the_o self_n same_o form_n of_o government_n use_v in_o the_o apostle_n time_n three_o this_o word_n gubernationes_fw-la mention_v 1._o cor._n 12._o whereupon_o you_o will_v ground_v conjecture_n 3._o the_o word_n gubernationes_fw-la impli_v not_o the_o signiory_n but_o by_o conjecture_n your_o signiory_n may_v as_o some_o learned_a man_n think_v signify_v any_o kind_n of_o government_n cven_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n certain_a it_o be_v that_o only_o by_o mere_a conjecture_n it_o be_v draw_v to_o signify_v this_o new_a devise_a signiory_n &_o therefore_o can_v infer_v any_o necessary_a conclusion_n furthermore_o it_o be_v by_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n place_v among_o those_o function_n y_o it_o be_v temporal_a and_o by_o the_o judgement_n of_o all_o learned_a man_n cease_v for_o thus_o the_o apostle_n say_v deinde_fw-la potestates_fw-la deinde_fw-la dona_fw-la sanationum_fw-la opitulationes_fw-la gubernationes_fw-la genera_fw-la linguarum_fw-la now_o it_o be_v 12._o 1._o cor._n 12._o a_o very_a strange_a matter_n that_o all_o the_o rest_n shall_v be_v temporal_a and_o only_o gubernationes_fw-la perpetual_a sure_o i_o be_o that_o the_o argument_n which_o so_o conclude_v may_v easy_o be_v deny_v and_o by_o no_o probability_n prove_v four_o we_o see_v manifest_o that_o in_o sundry_a point_n the_o government_n of_o y_fw-fr e_o church_n alter_v 4._o the_o apostolical_a government_n have_v of_o necessity_n be_v alter_v use_v in_o the_o apostle_n time_n be_v and_o have_v be_v of_o necessity_n alter_v &_o that_o it_o neither_o may_v nor_o can_v be_v revoke_v whereby_o it_o be_v plain_a that_o any_o one_o certain_a form_n or_o kind_a of_o external_a government_n perpetual_o to_o be_v observe_v be_v not_o where_o in_o the_o scripture_n prescribe_v to_o the_o church_n but_o the_o charge_n thereof_o be_v leave_v to_o the_o christian_a magistrate_n so_o that_o nothing_o be_v do_v contrary_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n this_o be_v theopinion_n of_o the_o best_a writer_n neither_o do_v i_o know_v any_o learned_a man_n of_o a_o magist._n 5._o the_o general_a opinion_n of_o the_o best_a writer_n musculus_fw-la loc_fw-la com._n tit_n de_fw-fr magist._n contrary_a judgement_n m._n musculus_fw-la speak_v of_o those_o senior_n say_v that_o they_o be_v use_v in_o those_o church_n only_o that_o be_v destitute_a of_o christian_a magistrate_n which_o have_v the_o chiefty_a and_o power_n etc._n etc._n not_o only_o in_o profane_a but_o in_o divine_a matter_n and_o after_o answer_v a_o objection_n of_o 1._o cor._n 6._o he_o say_v that_o we_o must_v needs_o distinguish_v between_o the_o state_n of_o the_o church_n in_o those_o day_n and_o that_o whichis_n now_o i_o have_v before_o declare_v m._n gualters_n judgement_n of_o this_o matter_n in_o his_o commentary_n upon_o the._n 1._o cor._n 5._o and_o upon_o the._n 11._o chap_v cor._n gualther_n hom_n 56._o in_o 1._o cor._n speak_v general_o of_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n he_o say_v thus_o wherefore_o as_o concern_v the_o doctrine_n of_o faith_n and_o salvation_n we_o acknowledge_v no_o tradition_n of_o the_o apostle_n but_o those_o which_o be_v contain_v in_o the_o creed_n etc._n etc._n but_o as_o concern_v the_o external_a form_n of_o the_o church_n we_o deny_v not_o that_o they_o have_v teach_v every_o where_o many_o thing_n of_o the_o order_n of_o ecclesiastical_a assembly_n of_o the_o administration_n of_o sacrament_n and_o of_o the_o whole_a government_n of_o the_o church_n whereof_o because_o there_o can_v be_v one_o form_n in_o every_o place_n observe_v they_o do_v in_o such_o sort_n appoint_v they_o as_o they_o see_v to_o be_v requisite_a for_o the_o condition_n of_o any_o city_n or_o country_n and_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o the_o church_n in_o all_o age_n have_v use_v their_o liberty_n in_o these_o thing_n &_o therefore_o they_o be_v to_o injurious_a which_o at_o this_o day_n either_o under_o the_o name_n of_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o apostle_n or_o for_o any_o other_o pretence_n go_v about_o to_o bind_v all_o church_n to_o one_o and_o the_o self_n same_o form_n and_o upon_o the._n 12._o chapter_n where_o he_o again_o speak_v of_o the_o signiory_n he_o idem_fw-la idem_fw-la say_v there_o be_v diverse_a which_o will_v needs_o institute_v elder_n or_o a_o ecclesiastical_a enate_n according_a to_o the_o example_n of_o the_o old_a &_o primitive_a church_n which_o also_o shall_v have_v authority_n over_o the_o magistrate_n themselves_o if_o at_o any_o time_n they_o do_v not_o their_o duty_n but_o it_o behove_v they_o first_o to_o show_v that_o those_o their_o senior_n have_v this_o power_n whereof_o paul_n do_v present_o speak_v which_o thing_n see_v it_o do_v by_o no_o mean_n appear_v and_o yet_o notwithstanding_o they_o deliver_v unto_o satan_n who_o they_o will_v they_o do_v like_a as_o if_o some_o will_v go_v about_o to_o cleanse_v the_o leprous_a raise_v the_o dead_a &_o work_v other_o miracle_n because_o these_o thing_n be_v usual_o do_v in_o the_o primitive_a church_n and_o y_o â—_o which_o he_o speak_v touch_v this_o matter_n also_o upon_o the._n 14._o chap_v of_z y_z e_z same_o epistle_n be_v not_o unworthy_a y_fw-fr e_z nothing_o whereof_o i_o have_v before_o make_v mention_n that_o their_o ambition_n idem_fw-la idem_fw-la be_v there_o reprove_v which_o go_v about_o to_o bring_v all_o church_n to_o the_o form_n of_o their_o discipline_n &_o government_n &_o cry_v out_o that_o there_o be_v no_o discipline_n there_o where_o all_o thing_n be_v not_o agreeable_a to_o their_o tradition_n &_o order_n but_o these_o man_n receive_v a_o just_a reward_n of_o their_o arrogancy_n when_o as_o they_o that_o come_v from_o they_o to_o other_o country_n do_v go_v
memorem_fw-la esse_fw-la oportet_fw-la chap._n 1._o the._n 5._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 146._o sect._n ult._n etc._n etc._n it_o may_v be_v the_o clerely_a understand_v that_o the_o presbytery_n or_o eldership_n have_v the_o chief_a stroke_n in_o this_o excommunication_n if_o it_o be_v observe_v that_o this_o be_v the_o policy_n and_o discipline_n of_o the_o jew_n and_o of_o the_o synagogue_n from_o whence_o our_o saviour_n christ_n take_v this_o &_o translate_v it_o unto_o his_o church_n that_o when_o any_o man_n have_v do_v any_o thing_n that_o they_o hold_v for_o a_o taulte_n that_o then_o the_o same_o be_v punish_v and_o censure_v by_o the_o elder_n of_o the_o church_n according_a to_o the_o quality_n of_o the_o fault_n as_o it_o may_v appear_v in_o s._n matthew_n for_o although_o it_o be_v of_o some_o and_o those_o very_a learned_a expound_v of_o the_o civil_a judgement_n vet_z for_o 5._o cap._n 5._o so_o much_o as_o the_o jew_n have_v nothing_o to_o do_v with_o civil_a 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