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A34012 Missa triumphans, or, The triumph of the mass wherein all the sophistical and wily arguments of Mr de Rodon against that thrice venerable sacrifice in his funestuous tract by him called, The funeral of the Mass, are fully, formally, and clearly answered : together with an appendix by way of answer to the translators preface / by F.P.M.O.P. Hib. Collins, William, 17th cent.; F. P. M. O. P. 1675 (1675) Wing C5389; ESTC R5065 231,046 593

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thing_n sacrifice_v answ._n from_o these_o last_o word_n viz._n that_o the_o lawful_a minister_n destroy_v something_o that_o be_v sensible_a draw_v out_o of_o bellarmine_n definition_n of_o a_o sacrifice_n mr._n de_fw-fr rodon_n form_n two_o argument_n like_o two_o huge_a millstone_n that_o will_v crush_v and_o destroy_v the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n &_o consequent_o poor_a diana●…s_v head_n too_o to_o his_o first_o crusher_n which_o begin_v thus_o in_o every_o sacrifice_n the_o thing_n sacrifice_v must_v fall_v under_o our_o sense_n i_o grant_v its_o major_a and_o its_o minor_a which_o be_v this_o but_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n which_o be_v pretend_v to_o be_v sacrifice_v in_o the_o mass_n under_o the_o accident_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n do_v not_o fall_v under_o our_o sense_n as_o we_o find_v by_o experience_n i_o distinguish_v thus_o but_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n etc._n etc._n do_v not_o fall_v under_o our_o sense_n in_o their_o connatural_a and_o proper_a shape_n i_o confess_v the_o minor_a do_v not_o fall_v under_o our_o sense_n in_o a_o sacramental_a shape_n or_o in_o the_o form_n and_o shape_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n which_o by_o experience_n we_o know_v fall_v under_o our_o sense_n i_o deny_v the_o minor_a and_o consequence_n also_o for_o we_o never_o say_v that_o christ_n be_v in_o the_o sacrament_n in_o his_o proper_a humane_a shape_n but_o only_o sacramental_o that_o be_v to_o say_v in_o the_o shape_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n and_o yet_o we_o hold_v that_o he_o be_v real_o and_o personal_o there_o because_o he_o himself_o say_v so_o in_o most_o express_a term_n these_o sacramental_a species_n then_o be_v obvious_a to_o our_o sense_n and_o christ_n be_v real_o in_o they_o they_o be_v destroy_v although_o christ_n body_n according_a to_o its_o natural_a and_o human_a shape_n be_v not_o destroy_v for_o he_o be_v not_o reduplicative_o so_o in_o the_o sacrament_n but_o only_o specificative_o his_o sacramental_a 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