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A14657 The svmme of a dispvtation betweene Mr. VValker, pastor of St. Iohn Euanglists [sic] in Watling-street London, and a popish priest calling himselfe Mr. Smith, but indeed Norrice assisted by other priests and papists : held in the presence of some worthy knights, with other gentlemen of both religions. Walker, George, 1581?-1651.; S. N. (Sylvester Norris), 1572-1630. 1624 (1624) STC 24960.5; ESTC S2955 22,486 46

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