yet_o be_v daily_o offer_v for_o the_o life_n of_o the_o world_n contra_fw-la quem_fw-la say_v he_o satis_fw-la argumentatur_fw-la &_o rabanus_n in_o epistolâ_fw-la ad_fw-la helgimonem_fw-la egilonem_fw-la abbatem_fw-la &_o ratrannus_n quidam_fw-la libro_fw-la composito_fw-la ad_fw-la karolum_fw-la regem_fw-la dicentes_fw-la aliam_fw-la esse_fw-la against_o who_o both_o rabanus_n in_o his_o epistle_n to_o abbot_n egilo_n and_o one_o ratrannus_n in_o a_o book_n which_o he_o make_v to_o king_n charles_n argue_v large_o say_v that_o it_o be_v another_o kind_n of_o flesh_n whereby_o what_o rabanus_n his_o opinion_n be_v of_o this_o point_n in_o his_o epistle_n to_o abbot_n egilo_n or_o egilus_fw-la &_o consequent_o what_o that_o be_v which_o the_o monk_n of_o weingart_n can_v not_o endure_v in_o his_o penitential_a i_o trust_v be_v plain_a enough_o i_o omit_v other_o corruption_n of_o antiquity_n in_o this_o same_o question_n which_o i_o have_v touch_v 198._o elsewhere_o only_o that_o of_o bertram_z i_o may_v not_o pass_v over_o wherein_o the_o dishonesty_n of_o these_o man_n in_o handle_v the_o write_n of_o the_o ancient_a be_v lay_v open_a even_o by_o the_o confession_n of_o their_o own_o mouth_n thus_o the_o case_n stand_v that_o ratrannus_n who_o join_v with_o rabanus_n in_o refute_v the_o error_n of_o the_o carnal_a presence_n at_o the_o first_o bring_v in_o thereof_o by_o paschasius_fw-la ratbertus_n be_v he_o who_o common_o be_v know_v by_o the_o name_n of_o bertramus_n the_o book_n which_o he_o write_v of_o this_o argument_n to_o carolus_n calvus_n the_o emperor_n be_v forbid_v to_o be_v read_v by_o order_n from_o the_o roman_a inquisition_n confirm_v afterward_o by_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n the_o divine_n of_o douai_n perceive_v that_o the_o forbid_v of_o the_o book_n do_v not_o keep_v man_n from_o read_v it_o but_o give_v they_o rather_o occasion_v to_o seek_v more_o earnest_o after_o it_o think_v it_o better_a policy_n that_o bertram_n shall_v be_v permit_v to_o go_v abroad_o but_o handle_v in_o such_o sort_n as_o other_o ancient_a writer_n that_o make_v against_o they_o be_v wont_a to_o be_v see_v therefore_o say_v 1571._o they_o we_o bear_v with_o very_a many_o error_n in_o other_o of_o the_o old_a catholic_a writer_n and_o extenuate_v they_o excuse_v they_o by_o invent_v some_o device_n oftentimes_o deny_v they_o and_o fain_o some_o commodious_a sense_n for_o they_o when_o they_o be_v object_v in_o disputation_n or_o conflict_n with_o our_o adversary_n we_o do_v not_o see_v why_o bertram_n may_v not_o deserve_v the_o same_o equity_n and_o diligent_a reviseall_a lest_o the_o heretic_n cry_v out_o that_o we_o burn_v and_o forbid_v such_o antiquity_n as_o make_v for_o they_o mark_v this_o deal_n well_o the_o world_n must_v be_v bear_v in_o hand_n that_o all_o the_o father_n make_v for_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n against_o we_o in_o all_o our_o controversy_n when_o we_o bring_v forth_o express_v testimony_n of_o the_o father_n to_o the_o contrary_a what_o must_v then_o be_v do_v a_o good_a face_n must_v be_v put_v upon_o the_o matter_n one_o device_n or_o other_o must_v be_v invent_v to_o elude_v the_o testimony_n object_v and_o still_o it_o must_v be_v deny_v that_o the_o father_n make_v against_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o papist_n bertram_z for_o example_n write_v thus_o dom._n the_o thing_n which_o differ_v one_o from_o another_o be_v not_o the_o same_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n which_o be_v dead_a and_o rose_n again_o and_o be_v make_v immortal_a now_o die_v not_o death_n no_o more_o have_v dominion_n over_o it_o be_v everlasting_a and_o now_o not_o subject_a to_o suffer_v but_o this_o which_o be_v celebrate_v in_o the_o church_n be_v temporal_a not_o everlasting_a it_o be_v corruptible_a not_o free_a from_o corruption_n what_o device_n must_v they_o find_v out_o here_o they_o must_v say_v this_o be_v mean_v of_o the_o accident_n or_o 7._o form_n of_o the_o sacrament_n which_o be_v corruptible_a or_o of_o the_o use_n of_o the_o sacrament_n which_o continue_v only_o in_o this_o present_a world_n but_o how_o will_v this_o shift_n serve_v the_o turn_n when_o as_o the_o whole_a drift_n of_o the_o discourse_n tend_v to_o prove_v that_o that_o which_o be_v receive_v by_o the_o mouth_n of_o the_o faithful_a in_o the_o sacrament_n be_v not_o that_o very_a body_n of_o christ_n which_o die_v upon_o the_o cross_n and_o rise_v again_o from_o death_n non_fw-fr malé_fw-fr aut_fw-la inconsulté_fw-fr omittantur_fw-la igitur_fw-la omne_fw-la haec_fw-la it_o be_v not_o amiss_o therefore_o say_v our_o popish_a censurer_n nor_o unadvised_o do_v that_o all_o these_o thing_n shall_v be_v leave_v out_o if_o this_o be_v your_o manner_n of_o deal_n with_o antiquity_n let_v all_o man_n judge_v whether_o it_o be_v not_o high_a time_n for_o we_o to_o listen_v unto_o the_o advice_n of_o vincentius_n lirinensis_n and_o not_o be_v so_o forward_o to_o commit_v the_o trial_n of_o our_o controversy_n to_o the_o write_n of_o the_o father_n who_o have_v have_v the_o ill_a hap_n to_o fall_v into_o such_o huckster_n handle_v yet_o that_o you_o may_v see_v how_o confident_a we_o be_v in_o the_o goodness_n of_o our_o cause_n we_o will_v not_o now_o stand_v upon_o our_o right_n nor_o refuse_v to_o enter_v with_o you_o into_o this_o field_n but_o give_v you_o leave_v for_o this_o time_n both_o to_o be_v the_o challenger_n and_o the_o appointer_n of_o your_o own_o weapon_n let_v we_o then_o hear_v your_o challenge_n wherein_o you_o will_v so_o fain_o be_v answer_v i_o will_v fain_o know_v say_v you_o how_o can_v your_o religion_n be_v true_a which_o disallow_v of_o many_o chief_a article_n which_o the_o saint_n and_o father_n of_o that_o primitive_a church_n of_o rome_n do_v general_o hold_v to_o be_v true_a for_o they_o of_o your_o side_n that_o have_v read_v the_o father_n of_o that_o unspotted_a church_n can_v well_o testify_v and_o if_o any_o deny_v it_o it_o shall_v be_v present_o show_v that_o the_o doctor_n pastor_n and_o father_n of_o that_o church_n do_v allow_v of_o tradition_n etc._n etc._n and_o again_o now_o will_v i_o fain_o know_v whether_o of_o both_o have_v the_o true_a religion_n they_o that_o hold_v all_o these_o abovesaid_a point_n with_o the_o primitive_a church_n or_o they_o that_o do_v most_o vehement_o contradict_v and_o gainsay_v they_o they_o that_o do_v not_o disagree_v with_o that_o holy_a church_n in_o any_o point_n of_o religion_n or_o they_o that_o agree_v with_o it_o but_o in_o very_a few_o and_o disagree_v in_o almost_o all_o and_o the_o three_o time_n too_o for_o fail_v now_o will_v i_o willing_o see_v what_o reasonable_a answer_n may_v be_v make_v to_o this_o for_o the_o protestant_n grant_v that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n for_o 400_o or_o 500_o year_n hold_v the_o true_a religion_n of_o christ_n yet_o do_v they_o exclaim_v against_o the_o abovesaid_a article_n which_o the_o same_o church_n do_v maintain_v and_o uphold_v as_o may_v be_v show_v by_o the_o express_a testimony_n of_o the_o father_n of_o the_o same_o church_n and_o shall_v be_v large_o lay_v down_o if_o any_o learned_a protestant_n will_v deny_v it_o if_o albertus_n pighius_fw-la have_v now_o be_v alive_a as_o great_a a_o scholar_n as_o he_o be_v he_o may_v have_v learn_v that_o he_o never_o know_v before_o who_o do_v ever_o yet_o say_v 3._o he_o by_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n understand_v the_o universal_a church_n that_o do_v this_o man_n say_v i_o who_o style_v all_o the_o ancient_a doctor_n and_o martyr_n of_o the_o church_n universal_a with_o the_o name_n of_o the_o saint_n and_o father_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n of_o rome_n but_o it_o seem_v a_o small_a matter_n unto_o he_o for_o the_o magnify_n of_o that_o church_n to_o confound_v urbem_fw-la &_o orbem_fw-la unless_o he_o mingle_v also_o heaven_n and_o earth_n together_o by_o give_v the_o title_n of_o that_o unspotted_a church_n which_o be_v the_o special_a privilege_n of_o the_o church_n triumphant_a in_o heaven_n unto_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n here_o militant_a upon_o earth_n s._n augustine_n sure_o will_v not_o have_v himself_o otherwise_o understand_v whensoever_o he_o speak_v of_o the_o unspotted_a church_n and_o therefore_o to_o prevent_v all_o mistake_n he_o thus_o expound_v himself_o in_o his_o retractation_n 18._o wheresoever_o in_o these_o book_n i_o have_v make_v mention_n of_o the_o church_n not_o have_v spot_n or_o wrinkle_n it_o be_v not_o so_o to_o be_v take_v as_o if_o she_o be_v so_o now_o but_o that_o she_o be_v prepare_v to_o be_v so_o when_o she_o shall_v appear_v glorious_a for_o now_o by_o reason_n of_o certain_a ignorances_n and_o infirmity_n of_o her_o member_n the_o whole_a church_n have_v cause_n to_o say_v every_o day_n forgive_v we_o our_o trespass_n now_o as_o long_o as_o the_o church_n be_v subject_a to_o these_o ignorances_n and_o infirmity_n it_o can_v
true_a by_o often_o experience_n that_o the_o wound_a conscience_n will_v still_o pinch_v grievous_o notwithstanding_o the_o confession_n make_v unto_o god_n in_o secret_a at_o such_o a_o time_n as_o this_o then_o where_o the_o sinner_n can_v find_v no_o ease_n at_o home_n what_o shall_v he_o do_v but_o use_v the_o best_a mean_n he_o can_v to_o find_v it_o abroad_o be_v 8.22_o there_o no_o balm_n in_o gilead_n be_v there_o no_o physician_n there_o no_o doubt_n but_o god_n have_v provide_v both_o the_o one_o and_o the_o other_o for_o recover_v of_o the_o health_n of_o the_o daughter_n of_o his_o people_n and_o s._n james_n have_v herein_o give_v we_o this_o direction_n 5.16_o confess_v your_o fault_n one_o to_o another_o and_o pray_v one_o for_o another_o that_o you_o may_v be_v heal_v according_a to_o which_o prescription_n gregory_n nyssen_n towards_o the_o end_n of_o his_o sermon_n of_o repentance_n use_v this_o exhortation_n to_o the_o sinner_n 175.176_o be_v sensible_a of_o the_o disease_n wherewith_o thou_o be_v take_v afflict_v thyself_o as_o much_o as_o thou_o can_v seek_v also_o the_o mourning_n of_o thy_o entire_o affect_a brethren_n to_o help_v thou_o unto_o liberty_n show_v i_o thy_o bitter_a and_o abundant_a tear_n that_o i_o may_v also_o mingle_v i_o therewith_o take_v likewise_o the_o priest_n for_o a_o partner_n of_o thy_o affliction_n as_o thy_o father_n for_o who_o be_v it_o that_o so_o false_o obtain_v the_o name_n of_o a_o father_n or_o have_v so_o adamantine_a a_o soul_n that_o he_o will_v not_o condole_v with_o his_o son_n lament_v show_v unto_o he_o without_o blush_v the_o thing_n that_o be_v keep_v close_o discover_v the_o secret_n of_o thy_o soul_n as_o show_v thy_o hide_a disease_n unto_o thy_o physician_n he_o will_v have_v care_n both_o of_o thy_o credit_n and_o of_o thy_o cure_n it_o be_v no_o part_n of_o his_o meaning_n to_o advise_v we_o that_o we_o shall_v open_v ourselves_o in_o this_o manner_n unto_o every_o hedge-priest_n as_o if_o there_o be_v a_o virtue_n general_o annex_v to_o the_o order_n that_o upon_o confession_n make_v and_o absolution_n receive_v from_o any_o of_o that_o rank_n all_o shall_v be_v straight_o make_v up_o but_o he_o will_v have_v we_o communicate_v our_o case_n both_o to_o such_o christian_a brethren_n and_o to_o such_o a_o ghostly_a father_n as_o have_v skill_n in_o physic_n of_o this_o kind_n and_o out_o of_o a_o fellow-feeling_n of_o our_o grief_n will_v apply_v themselves_o to_o our_o recovery_n therefore_o say_v origen_n 2._o look_v about_o thou_o diligent_o unto_o who_o thou_o ought_v to_o confess_v thy_o sin_n try_v first_o the_o physician_n unto_o who_o thou_o ought_v to_o declare_v the_o cause_n of_o thy_o malady_n who_o know_v to_o be_v weak_a with_o he_o that_o be_v weak_a to_o weep_v with_o he_o that_o weep_v who_o understand_v the_o discipline_n of_o condole_v and_o compassionate_v that_o so_o at_o length_n if_o he_o shall_v say_v any_o thing_n who_o have_v first_o show_v himself_o to_o be_v both_o a_o skilful_a physician_n and_o a_o merciful_a or_o if_o he_o shall_v give_v any_o counsel_n thou_o may_v do_v and_o follow_v it_o for_o as_o s._n basil_n well_o note_v 229._o the_o very_a same_o course_n be_v to_o be_v hold_v in_o the_o confession_n of_o sin_n which_o be_v in_o the_o open_n of_o the_o disease_n of_o the_o body_n as_o man_n therefore_o do_v not_o discover_v the_o disease_n of_o their_o body_n to_o all_o nor_o to_o every_o sort_n of_o people_n but_o to_o those_o that_o be_v skilful_a in_o the_o cure_n thereof_o even_o so_o ought_v the_o confession_n of_o our_o sin_n be_v make_v unto_o such_o as_o be_v able_a to_o cure_v they_o according_a to_o that_o which_o be_v write_v you_o that_o be_v strong_a bear_v the_o infirmity_n of_o the_o weak_a that_o be_v take_v they_o away_o by_o your_o diligence_n he_o require_v care_n and_o diligence_n in_o performance_n of_o the_o cure_n be_v ignorant_a good_a man_n of_o that_o new_a compendious_a method_n of_o heal_a invent_v by_o our_o roman_a paracelsian_n whereby_o a_o man_n 1._o in_o confession_n of_o attrite_a be_v make_v contrite_a by_o virtue_n of_o the_o key_n that_o the_o sinner_n need_v put_v his_o ghostly_a father_n to_o no_o further_a trouble_n than_o this_o speak_v the_o word_n only_o and_o i_o shall_v be_v heal_v and_o this_o be_v that_o sacramental_a confession_n devise_v of_o late_a by_o the_o priest_n of_o rome_n which_o they_o notwithstanding_o will_v feign_v father_n upon_o s._n peter_n from_o who_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n as_o they_o will_v have_v we_o believe_v receive_v this_o instruction_n 1._o that_o if_o envy_n or_o infidelity_n or_o any_o other_o evil_n do_v secret_o creep_v into_o any_o man_n heart_n he_o who_o have_v care_n of_o his_o own_o soul_n shall_v not_o be_v ashamed_a to_o confess_v those_o thing_n unto_o he_o who_o have_v the_o oversight_n over_o he_o that_o by_o god_n word_n and_o wholesome_a counsel_n he_o may_v be_v cure_v by_o he_o and_o so_o indeed_o we_o read_v in_o the_o apocryphal_a epistle_n of_o clement_n pretend_v to_o be_v write_v unto_o s._n james_n the_o brother_n of_o our_o lord_n where_o in_o the_o several_a edition_n of_o crab_n sichardus_fw-la venradius_fw-la surius_n nicolinus_n and_o binius_fw-la we_o find_v this_o note_n also_o lay_v down_o in_o the_o margin_n nota_fw-la de_fw-fr confession_n sacramentali_fw-la mark_v this_o of_o sacramental_a confession_n but_o their_o own_o 2._o maldonat_n will_v have_v teach_v they_o that_o this_o note_n be_v not_o worth_a the_o mark_v forasmuch_o as_o the_o proper_a end_n of_o sacramental_a confession_n be_v the_o obtain_n of_o remission_n of_o sin_n by_o virtue_n of_o the_o key_n of_o the_o church_n whereas_o the_o end_n of_o the_o confession_n here_o say_v to_o be_v commend_v by_o s._n peter_n be_v the_o obtain_n of_o counsel_n out_o of_o god_n word_n for_o the_o remedy_n of_o sin_n which_o kind_n of_o medicinal_a confession_n we_o well_o approve_v of_o and_o acknowledge_v to_o have_v be_v ordinary_o prescribe_v by_o the_o ancient_a father_n for_o the_o cure_n of_o secret_a sin_n for_o as_o for_o notorious_a offence_n which_o breed_v open_a scandal_n private_a confession_n be_v not_o think_v sufficient_a but_o there_o be_v further_o require_v public_a acknowledgement_n of_o the_o fault_n &_o the_o solemn_a use_n of_o the_o key_n for_o the_o reconciliation_n of_o the_o penitent_a tom._n if_o his_o sin_n do_v not_o only_o redound_v to_o his_o own_o evil_a but_o also_o unto_o much_o scandal_n of_o other_o and_o the_o bishop_n think_v it_o to_o be_v expedient_a for_o the_o profit_n of_o the_o church_n let_v he_o not_o refuse_v to_o perform_v his_o penance_n in_o the_o knowledge_n of_o many_o or_o of_o the_o whole_a people_n also_o let_v he_o not_o resist_v let_v he_o not_o by_o his_o shamefastness_n add_v swell_v to_o his_o deadly_a and_o mortal_a wound_n say_v s._n augustine_n and_o more_o large_o in_o another_o place_n where_o he_o meet_v with_o the_o objection_n of_o the_o sufficiency_n of_o internal_a repentance_n in_o this_o manner_n 3._o let_v no_o man_n say_v unto_o himself_o i_o do_v it_o secret_o i_o do_v it_o before_o god_n god_n who_o pardon_v i_o do_v know_v that_o i_o do_v it_o in_o my_o heart_n be_v it_o therefore_o say_v without_o cause_n whatsoever_o you_o shall_v loose_v on_o earth_n shall_v be_v loose_v in_o heaven_n be_v the_o key_n therefore_o without_o cause_n give_v unto_o the_o church_n of_o god_n do_v we_o frustrate_v the_o gospel_n of_o god_n do_v we_o frustrate_v the_o word_n of_o christ_n do_v we_o promise_v that_o to_o you_o which_o he_o deny_v you_o do_v we_o not_o deceive_v you_o job_n say_v if_o i_o be_v abash_v to_o confess_v my_o sin_n in_o the_o sight_n of_o the_o people_n so_o just_a a_o man_n of_o god_n rich_a treasure_n who_o be_v try_v in_o such_o a_o furnace_n say_v thus_o and_o do_v the_o child_n of_o pestilence_n withstand_v i_o and_o be_v ashamed_a to_o bow_v his_o knee_n under_o thâ—_n blessing_n of_o god_n that_o which_o the_o emperor_n be_v not_o ashamed_a to_o do_v be_v he_o ashamed_a of_o who_o be_v not_o as_o much_o as_o a_o senator_n but_o only_o a_o simple_a courtier_n o_o proud_a neck_n o_o crooked_a mind_n perhaps_o nay_o it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v doubt_v it_o be_v for_o this_o reason_n god_n will_v that_o theodosius_n the_o emperor_n shall_v do_v public_a penance_n in_o the_o sight_n of_o the_o people_n especial_o because_o his_o sin_n can_v not_o be_v conceal_v and_o be_v a_o senator_n ashamed_a of_o that_o whereof_o the_o emperor_n be_v not_o ashamed_a be_v he_o ashamed_a of_o that_o who_o be_v no_o senator_n but_o a_o courtier_n only_o whereof_o the_o emperor_n be_v not_o ashamed_a be_v one_o of_o the_o vulgar_a sort_n or_o a_o trader_n
of_o the_o greek_a church_n i_o find_v the_o absolution_n express_v in_o the_o three_o person_n as_o attribute_v whole_o to_o god_n and_o not_o in_o the_o first_o as_o if_o it_o come_v from_o the_o priest_n himself_o one_o ancient_a form_n of_o 1530._o absolution_n use_v among_o the_o latin_n be_v this_o almighty_a god_n be_v merciful_a unto_o thou_o and_o forgive_v thou_o all_o thy_o sin_n past_a present_a and_o to_o come_v visible_a and_o invisible_a which_o thou_o have_v commit_v before_o he_o and_o his_o saint_n which_o thou_o have_v confess_v or_o by_o some_o negligence_n or_o forgetfulness_n or_o evil_a will_n have_v conceal_v god_n deliver_v thou_o from_o all_o evil_a here_o and_o hereafter_o preserve_v and_o confirm_v thou_o always_o in_o every_o good_a work_n and_o christ_n the_o son_n of_o the_o live_a god_n bring_v thou_o unto_o the_o life_n which_o remain_v without_o end_n and_o so_o among_o the_o grecian_n 11._o whatsoever_o sin_n the_o penitent_a for_o forgetfulness_n or_o shamefastness_n do_v leave_n unconfess_v we_o pray_v the_o merciful_a and_o most_o pitiful_a god_n that_o those_o also_o may_v be_v pardon_v unto_o he_o and_o we_o be_v persuade_v that_o he_o shall_v receive_v pardon_n of_o they_o from_o god_n say_v jeremy_n the_o late_a patriarch_n of_o constantinople_n where_o by_o the_o way_n you_o may_v observe_v no_o such_o necessity_n to_o be_v here_o hold_v of_o confess_v every_o know_a sin_n unto_o a_o priest_n that_o if_o either_o for_o shame_n or_o for_o some_o other_o respect_v the_o penitent_a do_v not_o make_v a_o entire_a confession_n but_o conceal_v somewhat_o from_o the_o notice_n of_o his_o ghostly_a father_n his_o confession_n shall_v thereby_o be_v make_v void_a and_o he_o exclude_v from_o all_o hope_n of_o forgiveness_n which_o be_v that_o engine_n whereby_o the_o priest_n of_o rome_n have_v lift_v up_o themselves_o into_o that_o height_n of_o domineer_a and_o tyrannize_v over_o man_n conscience_n wherewith_o we_o see_v they_o now_o hold_v the_o poor_a people_n in_o most_o miserable_a awe_n alexander_n of_o hales_n and_o bonaventure_n in_o the_o form_n of_o absolution_n use_v in_o their_o time_n 1._o observe_v that_o prayer_n be_v premise_v in_o the_o optative_a and_o absolution_n adjoin_v afterward_o in_o the_o indicative_a mood_n whence_o they_o gather_v that_o the_o priest_n prayer_n obtain_v grace_n his_o absolution_n presuppose_v it_o that_o by_o the_o former_a he_o ascend_v unto_o god_n and_o procure_v pardon_n for_o the_o fault_n by_o the_o late_a he_o descend_v to_o the_o sinner_n and_o reconcile_v he_o to_o the_o church_n for_o 17._o although_o a_o man_n be_v loose_v before_o god_n say_v the_o master_n of_o the_o sentence_n yet_o be_v he_o not_o hold_v loose_v in_o the_o face_n of_o the_o church_n but_o by_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o priest_n and_o this_o lose_n of_o man_n by_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o priest_n be_v by_o the_o father_n general_o account_v nothing_o else_o but_o a_o restore_n of_o they_o to_o the_o peace_n of_o the_o church_n and_o a_o admit_v of_o they_o to_o the_o lord_n table_n again_o which_o therefore_o they_o usual_o express_v by_o the_o term_n of_o 2._o bring_v they_o to_o the_o communion_n 72._o reconcile_a they_o to_o or_o with_o the_o communion_n 9_o restore_v the_o communion_n to_o they_o lapsis_fw-la admit_v they_o to_o fellowship_n ibid._n grant_v they_o peace_n etc._n etc._n neither_o do_v we_o find_v that_o they_o do_v ever_o use_v any_o such_o formal_a absolution_n as_o this_o i_o absolve_v thou_o from_o all_o thy_o sin_n wherein_o our_o popish_a priest_n notwithstanding_o do_v place_n the_o very_a form_n of_o their_o late_a devise_a sacrament_n of_o penance_n nay_o hold_v it_o to_o be_v so_o absolute_a a_o form_n that_o according_a to_o thomas_n aquinas_n his_o new_a divinity_n 1._o it_o will_v not_o be_v sufficient_a to_o say_v almighty_a god_n have_v mercy_n upon_o thou_o or_o god_n grant_v unto_o thou_o absolution_n and_o forgiveness_n because_o forsooth_o the_o priest_n by_o these_o word_n do_v not_o signify_v that_o the_o absolution_n be_v do_v but_o intreat_v that_o it_o may_v be_v do_v which_o how_o it_o will_v accord_v with_o the_o roman_a pontifical_a where_o the_o form_n of_o absolution_n be_v lay_v down_o prayer-wise_a the_o jesuit_n who_o follow_v thomas_n may_v do_v well_o to_o consider_v i_o pass_v this_o over_o that_o in_o the_o day_n not_o only_o of_o s._n 13._o cyprian_n but_o of_o jejunii_fw-la alcuinus_fw-la also_o who_o live_v 800._o year_n after_o christ_n the_o reconciliation_n of_o penitent_n be_v not_o hold_v to_o be_v such_o a_o proper_a office_n of_o the_o priest_n but_o that_o a_o deacon_n in_o his_o absence_n be_v allow_v to_o perform_v the_o same_o the_o ordinary_a course_n that_o be_v hold_v herein_o 11._o according_a to_o the_o form_n of_o the_o ancient_a canon_n be_v thus_o lay_v down_o by_o the_o father_n of_o the_o three_o council_n of_o toledo_n that_o the_o priest_n shall_v first_o suspend_v he_o that_o repent_v of_o his_o fault_n from_o the_o communion_n and_o make_v he_o to_o have_v often_o recourse_n unto_o imposition_n of_o hand_n among_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o penitent_n then_o when_o he_o have_v fulfil_v the_o time_n of_o his_o satisfaction_n as_o the_o consideration_n of_o the_o priest_n do_v approve_v of_o it_o he_o shall_v restore_v he_o to_o the_o communion_n and_o this_o be_v a_o constitution_n of_o old_a father_v upon_o the_o apostle_n that_o bishop_n 16._o shall_v separate_v those_o who_o say_v they_o repent_v of_o their_o sin_n for_o a_o time_n determine_v according_a to_o the_o proportion_n of_o their_o sin_n and_o afterward_o receive_v they_o be_v penitent_a as_o father_n will_v do_v their_o child_n to_o this_o penitential_a excommunication_n and_o absolution_n belong_v that_o say_n either_o of_o s._n ambrose_n or_o s._n augustin_n for_o the_o same_o discourse_n be_v attribute_v to_o they_o both_o 44._o he_o who_o have_v true_o perform_v his_o repentance_n and_o be_v loose_v from_o that_o bond_n wherewith_o he_o be_v tie_v and_o separate_v from_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o do_v live_v well_o after_o his_o repentance_n whensoever_o after_o his_o reconciliation_n he_o shall_v depart_v this_o life_n he_o go_v to_o the_o lord_n he_o go_v to_o rest_v he_o shall_v not_o be_v deprive_v of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n and_o from_o the_o people_n of_o the_o devil_n he_o shall_v be_v separate_v and_o that_o which_o we_o read_v in_o anastasius_n sinaita_n 6._o bind_v he_o and_o till_o thou_o have_v appease_v god_n do_v not_o let_v he_o loose_v that_o he_o be_v not_o more_o bind_v with_o the_o wrath_n of_o god_n for_o if_o thou_o bind_v he_o not_o there_o remain_v bond_n for_o he_o that_o can_v be_v break_v neither_o do_v we_o inquire_v whither_o the_o wound_n be_v often_o bind_v but_o whither_o the_o bind_n have_v profit_v if_o it_o have_v profit_v although_o in_o a_o short_a time_n use_v it_o no_o long_o let_v the_o measure_n of_o the_o lose_n be_v the_o profit_n of_o he_o that_o be_v bind_v and_o that_o exhortation_n which_o another_o make_v unto_o the_o pastor_n of_o the_o church_n 268._o bind_v with_o separation_n such_o as_o have_v sin_v after_o baptism_n and_o lose_v they_o again_o when_o they_o have_v repent_v receive_v they_o as_o brethren_n for_o the_o say_n be_v true_a whatsoever_o you_o shall_v loose_v upon_o earth_n shall_v be_v loose_v in_o heaven_n that_o this_o authority_n of_o lose_v remain_v still_o in_o the_o church_n we_o constant_o maintain_v against_o the_o heresy_n of_o the_o ult_n montanist_n and_o 21._o novatian_o who_o upon_o this_o pretence_n among_o other_o that_o god_n only_o have_v power_n to_o remit_v sin_n take_v away_o the_o ministerial_a power_n of_o reconcile_a such_o penitent_n as_o have_v commit_v heinous_a sin_n deny_v that_o the_o church_n have_v any_o warrant_n to_o receive_v they_o to_o her_o communion_n again_o and_o to_o the_o participation_n of_o the_o holy_a mystery_n notwithstanding_o their_o repentance_n be_v ever_o so_o sound_a which_o be_v direct_o contrary_a to_o the_o doctrine_n deliver_v by_o s._n paul_n both_o in_o the_o general_a that_o 6.1_o if_o a_o man_n be_v overtake_v in_o a_o fault_n they_o who_o be_v spiritual_a shall_v restore_v such_o a_o one_o in_o the_o spirit_n of_o meekness_n and_o in_o the_o particular_a of_o the_o incestuous_a corinthian_a who_o though_o he_o have_v be_v excommunicate_v for_o such_o a_o crime_n 5.1_o as_o be_v not_o so_o much_o as_o name_v among_o the_o gentile_n yet_o upon_o his_o repentance_n the_o apostle_n tell_v the_o church_n that_o they_o 2.7_o ought_v to_o forgive_v he_o and_o comfort_v he_o lest_o he_o shall_v be_v swallow_v up_o with_o overmuch_a sorrow_n where_o that_o speech_n of_o he_o be_v special_o note_v and_o press_v against_o the_o heretic_n by_o s._n 16._o ambrose_n 2.10_o to_o who_o
the_o rest_n of_o the_o image_n of_o the_o saint_n in_o memory_n and_o honour_n of_o they_o who_o they_o figure_n as_o also_o their_o place_n and_o relic_n aught_o to_o be_v worship_v with_o procession_n bend_n of_o the_o knee_n bowing_n of_o the_o body_n incensing_n kiss_n offer_n light_v of_o candle_n and_o pilgrimage_n together_o with_o all_o other_o manner_n and_o form_n whatsoever_o as_o have_v be_v accustom_v to_o be_v do_v in_o our_o or_o our_o predecessor_n time_n and_o in_o the_o roman_a catechism_n set_v out_o by_o the_o appointment_n of_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n 14._o the_o parish_n priest_n be_v require_v to_o declare_v unto_o his_o parishioner_n not_o only_o that_o it_o be_v lawful_a to_o have_v image_n in_o the_o church_n and_o to_o give_v honour_n and_o worship_n unto_o they_o for_o asmuch_o as_o the_o honour_n which_o be_v do_v unto_o they_o be_v refer_v unto_o the_o thing_n which_o they_o represent_v but_o also_o that_o this_o have_v still_o be_v do_v to_o the_o great_a good_a of_o the_o faithful_a and_o that_o ibid._n the_o image_n of_o the_o saint_n be_v put_v in_o church_n aswell_o that_o they_o may_v be_v worship_v as_o that_o we_o be_v admonish_v by_o their_o example_n may_v conform_v ourselves_o unto_o their_o life_n and_o manner_n now_o for_o the_o manner_n of_o this_o worship_n we_o be_v tell_v by_o one_o of_o their_o bishop_n that_o 1557._o it_o must_v not_o only_o be_v confess_v that_o the_o faithful_a in_o the_o church_n do_v adore_v before_o the_o image_n as_o some_o peradventure_o will_v cautelous_o speak_v but_o also_o adore_v the_o image_n itself_o without_o what_o scruple_n you_o will_v yea_o they_o do_v reverence_v it_o with_o the_o same_o worship_n wherewith_o they_o do_v the_o thing_n that_o be_v represent_v thereby_o wherefore_o say_v he_o if_o that_o aught_o to_o be_v adore_v with_o latrîa_fw-la or_o divine_a worship_n this_o also_o be_v to_o be_v adore_v with_o latrîa_fw-la if_o with_o dulîa_fw-la or_o hyperdulîa_fw-la this_o likewise_o be_v to_o be_v adore_v with_o the_o same_o kind_n of_o worship_n and_o so_o we_o see_v that_o thomas_n aquinas_n do_v direct_o conclude_v that_o 3._o the_o same_o reverence_n be_v to_o be_v give_v unto_o the_o image_n of_o christ_n and_o to_o christ_n himself_o and_o by_o consequence_n see_v christ_n be_v adore_v with_o the_o adoration_n of_o latrÃa_n or_o divine_a worship_n that_o his_o image_n it_o to_o be_v adore_v with_o the_o adoration_n of_o latrîa_fw-la upon_o which_o place_n of_o thomas_n friar_n pedro_n de_fw-fr cabrera_n a_o great_a master_n of_o divinity_n in_o spain_n do_v lay_v down_o these_o conclusion_n i._o 15._o it_o be_v simple_o and_o absolute_o to_o be_v say_v that_o holy_a image_n be_v to_o be_v worship_v in_o church_n &_o â—ut_v of_o church_n and_o the_o contrary_n be_v a_o heretical_a doctrine_n for_o explication_n whereof_o he_o declare_v that_o by_o this_o worship_v he_o mean_v that_o sign_n of_o service_n and_o submission_n be_v to_o be_v exhibit_v unto_o image_n by_o embrace_v light_n oblation_n of_o incense_n uncover_v of_o the_o head_n etc._n etc._n and_o that_o this_o conclusion_n be_v a_o doctrine_n of_o faith_n collect_v out_o of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n by_o which_o it_o appear_v that_o thing_n create_v yea_o although_o they_o be_v senseless_a so_o that_o they_o be_v consecrate_v unto_o god_n be_v to_o be_v adore_v ii_o 32._o image_n be_v true_o and_o proper_o to_o be_v adore_v and_o out_o of_o a_o intention_n to_o adore_v themselves_o and_o not_o only_o the_o sampler_n that_o be_v represent_v in_o they_o this_o conclusion_n which_o he_o make_v to_o be_v the_o common_a resolution_n of_o the_o divine_n of_o that_o side_n he_o oppose_v against_o durand_n &_o his_o follower_n who_o hold_v that_o image_n be_v adore_v only_o improper_o because_o they_o put_v man_n in_o mind_n of_o the_o person_n represent_v by_o they_o who_o be_v then_o adore_v before_o the_o image_n as_o if_o they_o have_v be_v there_o real_o present_a but_o this_o opinion_n he_o say_v be_v censure_v by_o the_o latter_a divine_n to_o be_v dangerous_a rash_a and_o savour_v of_o heresy_n yea_o and_o by_o fr._n victoria_n to_o be_v plain_o heretical_a for_o 34._o if_o image_n be_v adore_v only_o improper_o they_o be_v not_o to_o be_v adore_v simple_o &_o absolute_o which_o be_v a_o manifest_a heresy_n say_v cabrera_n and_o 35._o if_o image_n be_v only_o to_o be_v worship_v by_o way_n of_o rememoration_n and_o recordation_n because_o they_o make_v we_o remember_v the_o sampler_n which_o we_o do_v so_o worship_v as_o if_o they_o have_v be_v then_o present_a it_o will_v follow_v that_o all_o creature_n shall_v be_v adore_v with_o the_o same_o adoration_n wherewith_o we_o worship_v god_n see_v all_o of_o they_o do_v lead_v we_o unto_o the_o knowledge_n and_o remembrance_n of_o god_n and_o god_n be_v present_a in_o all_o thing_n iii_o 56._o the_o doctrine_n deliver_v by_o thomas_n that_o the_o image_n and_o the_o sampler_n represent_v by_o it_o be_v to_o be_v worship_v with_o the_o same_o act_n of_o adoration_n be_v most_o true_a most_o pious_a and_o very_o consonant_a to_o the_o decree_n of_o faith_n this_o he_o 30._o say_v be_v the_o doctrine_n not_o only_o of_o thomas_n and_o of_o all_o his_o disciple_n but_o also_o of_o all_o the_o old_a schoolman_n almost_o and_o particular_o he_o quote_v for_o it_o cajetan_n capreolus_n paludanus_n ferrariensis_n antonius_n soto_n alexander_n of_o hales_n albertus_n magnus_n bonaventura_n richardus_fw-la de_fw-fr mediavilla_n dionysius_n carthusianus_n major_n masilius_fw-la thomas_n waldensis_n turrecremata_fw-la angestus_fw-la clichtoveus_n turrian_n and_o vazquez_n in_o a_o word_n 6._o it_o be_v the_o constant_a judgement_n of_o divine_n say_v azorius_fw-la the_o jesuite_n that_o the_o image_n be_v to_o be_v honour_v and_o worship_v with_o the_o same_o honour_n and_o worship_n wherewith_o that_o be_v worship_v whereof_o it_o be_v a_o image_n against_o this_o use_n or_o rather_o horrible_a abuse_n of_o image_n to_o what_o purpose_n shall_v we_o heap_v up_o any_o testimony_n of_o holy_a scripture_n if_o the_o word_n of_o the_o second_o commandment_n utter_v with_o god_n own_o mouth_n with_o thunder_a and_o lighten_v upon_o mount_n sinai_n may_v not_o be_v hear_v thou_o shall_v not_o make_v to_o thyself_o any_o grave_a image_n nor_o the_o likeness_n of_o any_o thing_n that_o be_v in_o heaven_n above_o or_o in_o the_o earth_n beneath_o or_o in_o the_o water_n under_o the_o earth_n thou_o shall_v not_o bow_v down_o to_o they_o nor_o worship_v they_o which_o thunderclap_n from_o heaven_n the_o guide_v of_o the_o romish_a church_n discern_v to_o threaten_v sore_o that_o fearful_a idolatry_n which_o daily_o they_o commit_v think_v fit_a in_o wisdom_n first_o to_o conceal_v the_o knowledge_n of_o this_o from_o the_o people_n by_o exclude_v those_o word_n out_o of_o the_o decalogue_n that_o go_v abroad_o for_o common_a use_n under_o pretence_n forsooth_o of_o include_v it_o in_o the_o first_o commandment_n and_o then_o afterward_o to_o put_v this_o conceit_n into_o man_n head_n that_o this_o first_o commandment_n be_v so_o far_o from_o condemn_v the_o veneration_n of_o image_n that_o it_o command_v the_o same_o and_o condemn_v the_o contrary_a neglect_n thereof_o and_o therefore_o laurence_n vaux_n in_o his_o catechism_n unto_o this_o question_n who_o break_v the_o first_o commandment_n of_o god_n by_o unreverence_n of_o god_n frame_v this_o answer_n 3._o they_o that_o do_v not_o give_v due_a reverence_n to_o god_n and_o his_o saint_n or_o to_o their_o relic_n and_o image_n and_o jacobus_n de_fw-fr graffijs_fw-la in_o his_o explication_n of_o the_o same_o commandment_n specifi_v the_o due_a reverence_n here_o require_v more_o particular_o namely_o penult_n that_o we_o shall_v reverence_v every_o image_n with_o the_o same_o worship_n that_o we_o do_v he_o who_o image_n it_o be_v that_o be_v to_o say_v that_o we_o impart_v latrîa_fw-la or_o divine_a worship_n to_o the_o image_n of_o god_n or_o of_o christ_n or_o to_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n also_o in_o asmuch_o as_o it_o bring_v the_o passion_n of_o our_o lord_n unto_o our_o mind_n and_o that_o we_o use_v the_o adoration_n of_o hyperdulîa_fw-la at_o the_o image_n of_o the_o holy_a virgin_n but_o of_o dulìa_n at_o the_o image_n of_o other_o saint_n and_o can_v there_o be_v find_v think_v you_o among_o man_n a_o more_o desperate_a impudency_n than_o this_o that_o not_o only_o the_o practice_n of_o this_o wretched_a idolatry_n shall_v be_v maintain_v against_o the_o express_a commandment_n of_o almighty_a god_n but_o also_o that_o he_o himself_o shall_v be_v make_v the_o author_n and_o commander_n of_o it_o even_o in_o that_o very_a place_n where_o he_o do_v so_o severe_o forbid_v it_o and_o 1.18_o reveal_v his_o wrath_n from_o heaven_n against_o the_o ungodliness_n and_o unrighteousness_n
christ._n three_o 8._o that_o god_n promise_n be_v annex_v indeed_o to_o the_o work_n of_o just_a man_n yet_o it_o belong_v no_o way_n to_o the_o reason_n of_o the_o merit_n but_o come_v rather_o to_o the_o work_n which_o be_v already_o not_o worthy_a only_o but_o also_o meritorious_a unto_o all_o which_o he_o add_v afterward_o this_o corollary_n 30.31_o see_v the_o work_n of_o a_o just_a man_n do_v condign_o merit_v eternal_a life_n as_o a_o equal_a recompense_n and_o reward_v there_o be_v no_o need_n that_o any_o other_o condign_a merit_n such_o as_o be_v the_o merit_n of_o christ_n shall_v come_v between_o that_o eternal_a life_n may_v be_v render_v unto_o they_o yea_o the_o merit_n of_o every_o just_a man_n have_v somewhat_o peculiar_a in_o respect_n of_o the_o just_a man_n himself_o which_o the_o merit_n of_o christ_n have_v not_o namely_o to_o make_v the_o man_n himself_o just_a and_o worthy_a of_o eternal_a life_n that_o he_o may_v worthy_o obtain_v the_o same_o but_o the_o merit_n of_o christ_n although_o it_o be_v most_o worthy_a to_o obtain_v glory_n of_o god_n for_o we_o yet_o it_o have_v not_o this_o efficacy_n and_o virtue_n to_o make_v we_o formal_o just_a and_o worthy_a of_o eternal_a life_n but_o man_n by_o virtue_n derive_v from_o he_o attain_v this_o effect_n in_o themselves_o and_o so_o we_o never_o request_v of_o god_n by_o the_o merit_n of_o christ_n that_o the_o reward_n of_o eternal_a life_n may_v be_v give_v to_o our_o worthy_a and_o meritorious_a work_n but_o that_o by_o christ_n grace_n may_v be_v give_v unto_o we_o whereby_o we_o may_v be_v enable_v worthy_o to_o merit_v this_o reward_n in_o a_o word_n 32._o our_o merit_n say_v he_o have_v this_o force_n in_o we_o that_o they_o make_v we_o formal_o worthy_a of_o eternal_a life_n the_o merit_n of_o christ_n do_v not_o make_v we_o worthy_a formal_o but_o christ_n be_v worthy_a in_o regard_n of_o they_o to_o impetrate_v unto_o we_o whatsoever_o he_o request_v for_o we_o thus_o do_v vasquez_n the_o jesuite_n discover_v unto_o we_o to_o the_o full_a the_o mystery_n of_o this_o iniquity_n with_o who_o for_o the_o better_a information_n of_o the_o english_a reader_n we_o join_v our_o rhemist_n who_o deliver_v this_o as_o their_o catholic_a doctrine_n 4.8_o that_o all_o good_a work_v do_v by_o god_n grace_n after_o the_o first_o justification_n be_v true_o and_o proper_o meritorious_a and_o full_o worthy_a of_o everlasting_a life_n and_o that_o thereupon_o heaven_n be_v the_o due_a and_o just_a stipend_n crown_n or_o recompense_n which_o god_n by_o his_o justice_n owe_v to_o the_o person_n so_o work_v by_o his_o grace_n for_o he_o render_v or_o repay_v heaven_n say_v they_o as_o a_o just_a judge_n and_o not_o only_o as_o a_o merciful_a giver_n and_o the_o crown_n which_o he_o pay_v be_v not_o only_o of_o mercy_n or_o favour_n or_o grace_n but_o also_o of_o justice_n and_o again_o 20.35_o that_o man_n work_n do_v by_o christ_n grace_n do_v condign_o or_o worthy_o deserve_v eternal_a joy_n so_o as_o 3.8_o work_n can_v be_v none_o other_o but_o the_o value_n desert_n price_n worth_n and_o merit_n of_o the_o same_o whereupon_o they_o put_v we_o in_o mind_n ibid._n that_o the_o word_n reward_n which_o in_o our_o english_a tongue_n may_v signify_v a_o voluntary_a or_o bountiful_a gift_n do_v not_o here_o so_o well_o express_v the_o nature_n of_o the_o latin_a word_n merces_fw-la or_o the_o greek_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o be_v rather_o the_o very_a stipend_n that_o the_o hire_a workman_n or_o journeyman_n covenant_v to_o have_v of_o he_o who_o work_n hedoth_a and_o be_v a_o thing_n equal_o and_o just_o answer_v to_o the_o time_n and_o weight_n of_o his_o travel_n and_o work_n rather_o than_o a_o free_a gift_n this_o be_v that_o doctrine_n of_o merit_n which_o from_o our_o very_a heart_n we_o detest_v and_o abhor_v as_o utter_o repugnant_a to_o the_o truth_n of_o god_n and_o the_o common_a sense_n of_o all_o true-hearted_a christian_n the_o lesson_n which_o our_o saviour_n teach_v his_o disciple_n be_v far_o different_a from_o this_o luk._n 17.10_o when_o you_o have_v do_v all_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v command_v you_o say_v we_o be_v unprofitable_a servant_n we_o have_v do_v that_o which_o be_v our_o duty_n to_o do_v and_o pelag._n if_o he_o be_v unprofitable_a say_v s._n hierome_n who_o have_v do_v all_o what_o be_v to_o be_v say_v of_o he_o who_o can_v not_o fulfil_v they_o so_o likewise_o the_o roman_n themselves_o may_v remember_v that_o they_o be_v teach_v by_o s._n paul_n at_o the_o beginning_n that_o there_o be_v no_o proportion_n of_o condignity_n to_o be_v find_v betwixt_o not_o the_o action_n only_o but_o the_o passion_n also_o of_o the_o saint_n and_o the_o reward_n that_o be_v reserve_v for_o we_o in_o the_o world_n to_o come_v for_o i_o reckon_v that_o the_o suffering_n of_o this_o present_a time_n be_v not_o worthy_a to_o be_v compare_v with_o the_o glory_n which_o shall_v be_v reveal_v in_o we_o say_v he_o rom._n 8.18_o and_o bernard_n thereupon_o mariae_fw-la concern_v the_o life_n eternal_a we_o know_v that_o the_o suffering_n of_o this_o time_n be_v not_o worthy_a to_o be_v compare_v with_o the_o future_a glory_n no_o not_o if_o one_o man_n do_v sustain_v they_o all_o for_o the_o merit_n of_o man_n be_v not_o such_o that_o for_o they_o eternal_a life_n shall_v be_v due_a of_o right_n or_o god_n shall_v do_v any_o injury_n if_o he_o do_v not_o give_v it_o for_o to_o let_v pass_v that_o all_o merit_n be_v god_n gift_n and_o in_o that_o respect_n a_o man_n be_v for_o they_o make_v a_o debtor_n to_o god_n more_o than_o god_n to_o man_n what_o be_v all_o merit_n in_o comparison_n of_o so_o great_a a_o glory_n and_o s._n ambrose_n long_o before_o he_o 22._o all_o those_o thing_n which_o we_o suffer_v be_v too_o little_a and_o unworthy_a fot_o the_o pain_n whereof_o there_o shall_v be_v render_v unto_o we_o so_o great_a reward_n of_o good_a thing_n to_o come_v as_o shall_v be_v reveal_v in_o we_o when_o be_v reform_v according_a to_o the_o image_n of_o god_n we_o shall_v merit_v or_o obtain_v to_o see_v his_o glory_n face_n to_o face_n where_o for_o the_o better_a understanding_n of_o the_o meaning_n of_o the_o father_n in_o this_o point_n we_o may_v further_o observe_v that_o merit_v in_o their_o write_n do_v ordinary_o signify_v nothing_o but_o work_n as_o in_o the_o allege_v place_n of_o bernard_n and_o 20._o to_o merit_v simple_o to_o procure_v or_o to_o attain_v without_o any_o relation_n at_o all_o to_o the_o dignity_n either_o of_o the_o person_n or_o the_o work_n as_o in_o the_o last_o word_n of_o ambrose_n be_v plain_o to_o be_v see_v and_o therefore_o as_o tacitus_n write_v of_o agricola_n that_o agricolae_fw-la by_o his_o virtue_n he_o merit_v that_o be_v to_o say_v incur_v the_o anger_n of_o caius_n caesar_n so_o s._n augustine_n say_v that_o he_o and_o his_o fellow_n for_o their_o good_a do_n at_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o donatist_n 6._o in_o stead_n of_o thanks_o merit_v that_o be_v incur_v the_o flame_n of_o hatred_n on_o the_o other_o side_n the_o same_o father_n affirm_v that_o s._n paul_n gratiâ_fw-la for_o his_o persecution_n and_o blasphemy_n merit_v that_o be_v find_v the_o grace_n to_o be_v name_v a_o vessel_n of_o election_n have_v reference_n to_o that_o in_o 1_o timoth._n 1.13_o who_o be_v before_o a_o blasphemer_n and_o a_o persecuter_n and_o injurious_a but_o i_o obtain_v mercy_n where_o in_o stead_n of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o the_o vulgar_a latin_a translate_v misericordiam_fw-la consecutus_fw-la sum_fw-la 5._o s._n cyprian_n read_v misericordiam_fw-la merui_fw-la i_o merit_v mercy_n whereunto_o we_o may_v add_v that_o say_n which_o be_v find_v also_o among_o the_o work_n of_o s._n augustine_n that_o tempore_fw-la no_o sinner_n shall_v despair_v of_o himself_o see_v paul_n have_v merit_v pardon_n and_o that_o of_o gregory_n 17._o paul_n when_o he_o go_v about_o to_o extinguish_v the_o name_n of_o our_o redeemer_n upon_o earth_n merit_v to_o hear_v his_o word_n from_o heaven_n as_o also_o that_o other_o strain_n of_o his_o concern_v the_o sin_n of_o adam_n which_o be_v sing_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n at_o the_o blessing_n of_o the_o taper_n pasâ—halis_n o_o happy_a sin_n that_o merit_v that_o be_v find_v the_o favour_n to_o have_v such_o and_o so_o great_a a_o redeemer_n howsoever_o therefore_o the_o ancient_a doctor_n may_v seem_v unto_o those_o that_o be_v not_o well_o acquaint_v with_o their_o language_n to_o speak_v of_o merit_n as_o the_o romanist_n do_v yet_o have_v they_o nothing_o common_a with_o they_o but_o the_o bare_a word_n in_o the_o thing_n itself_o they_o differ_v as_o much_o from_o they_o every_o way_n as_o our_o church_n do_v
be_v otherwise_o but_o there_o must_v be_v difference_n betwixt_o the_o member_n thereof_o one_o part_n may_v understand_v that_o whereof_o a_o other_o be_v ignorant_a and_o ignorance_n be_v the_o mother_n of_o error_n one_o particular_a church_n may_v wrong_o conceive_v of_o some_o point_n wherein_o other_o may_v be_v right_o inform_v neither_o will_v it_o follow_v thereupon_o that_o these_o church_n must_v be_v of_o different_a religion_n because_o they_o full_o agree_v not_o in_o all_o thing_n or_o that_o therefore_o the_o reform_a church_n in_o our_o day_n must_v disclaim_v all_o kindred_n with_o those_o in_o ancient_a time_n because_o they_o have_v wash_v away_o some_o spot_n from_o themselves_o which_o they_o discern_v to_o have_v be_v in_o they_o it_o be_v not_o every_o spot_n that_o take_v away_o the_o beauty_n of_o a_o church_n not_o every_o sickness_n that_o take_v away_o the_o life_n thereof_o and_o therefore_o though_o we_o shall_v admit_v that_o the_o ancient_a church_n of_o rome_n be_v somewhat_o impair_v both_o in_o beauty_n and_o in_o health_n too_o wherein_o we_o have_v no_o reason_n to_o be_v sorry_a that_o we_o be_v unlike_a unto_o she_o there_o be_v no_o necessity_n that_o hereupon_o present_o she_o must_v cease_v to_o be_v our_o sister_n s._n cyprian_n and_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o african_a bishop_n that_o join_v with_o he_o hold_v that_o such_o as_o be_v baptize_v by_o heretic_n shall_v be_v rebaptise_v the_o african_a bishop_n in_o the_o time_n of_o aurelius_n be_v of_o another_o mind_n do_v the_o diversity_n of_o their_o judgement_n in_o this_o point_n make_v they_o to_o have_v be_v of_o a_o diverse_a religion_n it_o be_v the_o use_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n to_o minister_v the_o communion_n unto_o infant_n which_o be_v yet_o also_o practise_v by_o the_o christian_n in_o egypt_n and_o ethiopia_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n upon_o better_a consideration_n have_v think_v fit_a to_o do_v otherwise_o and_o yet_o for_o all_o that_o will_v not_o yield_v that_o either_o she_o herself_o have_v forsake_v the_o religion_n of_o her_o ancestor_n because_o she_o follow_v they_o not_o in_o this_o or_o that_o they_o be_v of_o the_o same_o religion_n with_o the_o cophtite_n and_o habassines_n because_o they_o agree_v together_o in_o this_o particular_a so_o put_v case_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n now_o do_v use_v prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a in_o the_o same_o manner_n that_o the_o ancient_a church_n do_v which_o we_o will_v show_v to_o be_v otherwise_o the_o reform_a church_n that_o upon_o better_a advice_n have_v alter_v that_o usage_n need_v not_o therefore_o grant_v that_o either_o themselves_o hold_v a_o different_a religion_n from_o that_o of_o the_o father_n because_o they_o do_v not_o precise_o follow_v they_o in_o this_o nor_o yet_o that_o the_o father_n be_v therefore_o papist_n because_o in_o this_o point_n they_o thus_o concur_v for_o as_o two_o may_v be_v discern_v to_o be_v sister_n by_o the_o likeness_n of_o their_o face_n although_o the_o one_o have_v some_o spot_v or_o blemish_n which_o the_o other_o have_v not_o so_o a_o three_o may_v be_v bring_v in_o which_o may_v show_v like_o spot_n and_o blemish_n and_o yet_o have_v no_o such_o likeness_n of_o visage_n as_o may_v bewray_v she_o to_o be_v the_o other_o sister_n but_o our_o challenger_n have_v first_o conceit_v in_o his_o mind_n a_o idea_n of_o a_o unspotted_a church_n upon_o earth_n then_o be_v far_o in_o love_n with_o the_o paint_a face_n of_o the_o present_a church_n of_o rome_n and_o out_o of_o love_n with_o we_o because_o we_o like_v not_o as_o he_o like_v he_o take_v a_o view_n of_o both_o our_o face_n in_o the_o false_a glass_n of_o affection_n and_o find_v she_o on_o who_o he_o dote_v to_o answer_v his_o unspotted_a church_n in_o all_o point_n but_o we_o to_o agree_v with_o it_o in_o almost_o nothing_o and_o thereupon_o he_o will_v fain_o know_v whether_o of_o both_o have_v the_o true_a religion_n they_o that_o do_v not_o disagree_v with_o that_o holy_a church_n in_o any_o point_n of_o religion_n or_o they_o that_o agree_v with_o it_o but_o in_o very_a few_o and_o disagree_v in_o almost_o all_o indeed_o if_o that_o which_o he_o assume_v for_o grant_v can_v as_o easy_o be_v prove_v as_o it_o be_v bold_o avouch_v the_o question_n will_v quick_o be_v resolve_v whether_o of_o we_o both_o have_v the_o true_a religion_n but_o he_o be_v to_o understand_v that_o strong_a conceit_n be_v but_o weak_a proof_n and_o that_o the_o jesuit_n have_v not_o be_v the_o first_o from_o who_o such_o brag_n as_o these_o have_v be_v hear_v dioscorus_n the_o heretic_n be_v as_o pert_a when_o he_o utter_v these_o speech_n in_o the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n rom._n i_o be_o cast_v out_o with_o the_o father_n i_o defend_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o father_n i_o transgress_v they_o not_o in_o any_o point_n and_o i_o have_v their_o testimony_n not_o bare_o but_o in_o their_o very_a book_n neither_o need_v we_o wonder_v that_o he_o shall_v bear_v we_o down_o that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n at_o this_o day_n do_v not_o disagree_v from_o the_o primitive_a church_n in_o any_o point_n of_o religion_n who_o stick_v not_o so_o confident_o to_o affirm_v that_o we_o agree_v with_o it_o but_o in_o very_a few_o and_o disagree_v in_o almost_o all_o for_o those_o few_o point_n wherein_o he_o confess_v we_o do_v agree_v with_o the_o ancient_a church_n must_v either_o be_v mean_v of_o such_o article_n only_o wherein_o we_o disagree_v from_o the_o now_o church_n of_o rome_n or_o else_o of_o the_o whole_a body_n of_o that_o religion_n which_o we_o profess_v if_o in_o the_o former_a he_o yield_v that_o we_o do_v agree_v with_o the_o primitive_a church_n what_o credit_n do_v he_o leave_v unto_o himself_o who_o with_o the_o same_o breath_n have_v give_v out_o that_o the_o present_a church_n of_o rome_n do_v not_o disagree_v with_o that_o holy_a church_n in_o any_o point_n if_o he_o mean_v latter_a with_o what_o face_n can_v he_o say_v that_o we_o agree_v with_o that_o holy_a church_n but_o in_o very_a few_o point_n of_o religion_n and_o disagree_v in_o almost_o all_o irenaeus_n who_o be_v the_o disciple_n of_o those_o which_o hear_v s._n john_n the_o apostle_n 31._o lay_v down_o the_o article_n of_o that_o faith_n in_o the_o unity_n whereof_o the_o church_n that_o be_v found_v in_o germany_n spain_n france_n the_o east_n egypt_n lybia_n and_o all_o the_o world_n do_v sweet_o accord_v as_o if_o they_o have_v all_o dwell_v in_o one_o house_n all_o have_v but_o one_o soul_n and_o one_o heart_n and_o one_o mouth_n be_v he_o able_a to_o show_v one_o point_n wherein_o we_o have_v break_v that_o harmony_n which_o irenaeus_n commend_v in_o the_o catholic_n church_n of_o his_o time_n but_o that_o rule_n of_o faith_n so_o much_o commend_v by_o he_o and_o tertullian_n and_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o father_n and_o all_o the_o article_n of_o the_o several_a creed_n that_o be_v ever_o receive_v in_o the_o ancient_a church_n as_o badge_n of_o the_o catholic_a profession_n to_o which_o we_o willing_o subscribe_v be_v with_o this_o man_n almost_o nothing_o none_o must_v now_o be_v count_v a_o catholic_a but_o he_o that_o can_v conform_v his_o belief_n unto_o the_o 1564._o creed_n of_o the_o new_a fashion_n compile_v by_o pope_n pius_n the_o four_o some_o four_o and_o fifty_o year_n ago_o as_o for_o the_o particular_a difference_n wherein_o he_o think_v he_o have_v the_o advantage_n of_o we_o when_o we_o come_v unto_o the_o sift_v of_o they_o it_o shall_v appear_v how_o far_o he_o be_v deceive_v in_o his_o imagination_n in_o the_o mean_a time_n have_v as_o yet_o not_o strike_v one_o stroke_n but_o threaten_v only_o to_o do_v wonder_n if_o any_o will_v be_v so_o hardy_a to_o accept_v his_o challenge_n he_o may_v have_v do_v very_o well_o to_o have_v defer_v his_o triumph_n until_o such_o time_n as_o he_o have_v obtain_v the_o victory_n for_o as_o if_o he_o have_v bear_v we_o down_o with_o the_o weight_n of_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o father_n and_o so_o astonish_v we_o therewith_o that_o we_o can_v not_o tell_v what_o to_o say_v for_o ourselves_o he_o thus_o bestir_v himself_o in_o a_o most_o ridiculous_a manner_n fight_v with_o his_o own_o shadow_n will_v you_o say_v that_o these_o father_n say_v he_o who_o have_v not_o hitherto_o lay_v down_o so_o much_o as_o the_o name_n of_o any_o one_o father_n maintain_v these_o opinion_n contrary_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n why_o you_o know_v that_o they_o be_v the_o pillar_n of_o christianity_n the_o champion_n of_o christ_n his_o church_n and_o of_o the_o true_a catholic_n religion_n which_o they_o most_o learned_o defend_v against_o diverse_a heresy_n and_o therefore_o spend_v all_o their_o time_n in_o a_o most_o serious_a study_n
think_v will_v take_v the_o pain_n to_o get_v he_o a_o new_a heart_n and_o a_o new_a spirit_n and_o undertake_v the_o toilsome_a work_n of_o crucify_a the_o flesh_n with_o the_o lust_n thereof_o if_o without_o all_o this_o ado_n the_o priest_n absolution_n can_v make_v that_o other_o imperfect_a or_o rather_o equivocal_a contrition_n arise_v from_o a_o carnal_a and_o servile_a fear_n to_o be_v sufficient_a for_o the_o blot_n out_o of_o all_o his_o sin_n or_o be_v we_o not_o rather_o to_o think_v that_o this_o sacramental_a penance_n of_o the_o papist_n be_v a_o device_n invent_v by_o the_o enemy_n to_o hoodwink_v poor_a soul_n and_o to_o divert_v they_o from_o seek_v that_o true_a repentance_n which_o be_v only_o able_a to_o stand_v they_o in_o stead_n and_o that_o such_o as_o take_v upon_o they_o to_o help_v lame_a dog_n over_o the_o stile_n after_o this_o manner_n by_o substitute_v quid_fw-la pro_fw-la quo_fw-la attrition_n in_o stead_n of_o contrition_n servile_a fear_n in_o stead_n of_o filial_a love_n carnal_a sorrow_n in_o stead_n of_o godly_a repentance_n be_v physician_n of_o no_o value_n nay_o such_o as_o minister_v poison_n unto_o man_n under_o colour_n of_o provide_v a_o sovereign_a medicine_n for_o they_o he_o therefore_o that_o will_v have_v care_n of_o his_o soul_n health_n must_v consider_v that_o much_o rest_v here_o in_o the_o good_a choice_n of_o a_o skilful_a physician_n but_o much_o more_o in_o the_o pain_n that_o must_v be_v take_v by_o the_o patient_n himself_o for_o that_o every_o one_o who_o bear_v the_o name_n of_o a_o priest_n be_v not_o fit_a to_o be_v trust_v with_o a_o matter_n of_o this_o moment_n their_o own_o decree_n may_v give_v they_o fair_a warning_n where_o this_o admonition_n be_v vult_fw-la twice_o lay_v down_o out_o of_o the_o author_n that_o write_v of_o true_a and_o false_a repentance_n 4._o he_o who_o will_v confess_v his_o sin_n that_o he_o may_v find_v grace_n let_v he_o seek_v for_o a_o priest_n that_o know_v how_o to_o bind_v and_o loose_v lest_o while_o he_o be_v negligent_a concern_v himself_o he_o be_v neglect_v by_o he_o who_o merciful_o admonish_v and_o desire_v he_o that_o both_o fall_v not_o into_o the_o pit_n which_o the_o fool_n will_v not_o avoid_v and_o when_o the_o skilful_a priest_n that_o be_v have_v do_v his_o best_a s._n cyprian_n will_v tell_v they_o that_o goulart_n to_o he_o that_o repent_v to_o he_o that_o work_v to_o he_o that_o pray_v the_o lord_n of_o his_o mercy_n can_v grant_v a_o pardon_n he_o can_v make_v good_a that_o which_o for_o such_o man_n either_o the_o martyr_n shall_v request_v or_o the_o priest_n shall_v do_v if_o we_o inquire_v who_o they_o be_v that_o first_o assume_v unto_o themselves_o this_o exorbitant_a power_n of_o forgive_a sin_n we_o be_v like_a to_o find_v they_o in_o the_o tent_n of_o the_o ancient_a heretic_n and_o schismatics_n who_o 2.19_o promise_v unto_o other_o liberty_n when_o they_o themselves_o be_v the_o servant_n of_o corruption_n 3._o how_o many_o say_v s._n hierom_n which_o have_v neither_o bread_n nor_o apparel_n when_o they_o themselves_o be_v hungry_a and_o naked_a and_o neither_o have_v spiritual_a meat_n nor_o preserve_v the_o coat_n of_o christ_n entire_a yet_o promise_v unto_o other_o food_n and_o raiment_n and_o be_v full_a of_o wound_n themselves_o brag_v that_o they_o be_v physician_n and_o do_v not_o observe_v that_o of_o moses_n exod._n 4.13_o provide_v another_o who_o thou_o may_v send_v &_o that_o other_o commandment_n ecclesiastic_a 7.6_o do_v not_o seek_v to_o be_v make_v a_o judge_n lest_o peradventure_o thou_o be_v not_o able_a to_o take_v away_o iniquity_n it_o be_v jesus_n alone_o who_o heal_v all_o sickness_n and_o infirmity_n of_o who_o it_o be_v write_v psalm_n 147.4_o he_o heal_v the_o contrite_a in_o heart_n and_o bind_v up_o their_o sore_n thus_o far_o s._n hierom._n the_o rhemist_n in_o their_o marginal_a note_n upon_o luke_n 7.49_o tell_v we_o that_o as_o the_o pharisee_n do_v always_o carp_n christ_n for_o remission_n of_o sin_n in_o earth_n so_o the_o heretic_n reprehend_v his_o church_n that_o remit_v sin_n by_o his_o authority_n but_o s._n augustin_n treat_v upon_o the_o self_n same_o place_n may_v have_v teach_v they_o that_o hereby_o the_o bewray_v themselves_o to_o be_v the_o off_o spring_n of_o heretic_n rather_o than_o child_n of_o the_o church_n for_o whereas_o our_o saviour_n there_o have_v say_v unto_o the_o penitent_a woman_n thy_o sin_n be_v forgive_v and_o they_o that_o sit_v at_o meat_n with_o he_o begin_v to_o say_v within_o themselves_o who_o be_v this_o that_o forgive_v sin_n also_o s._n augustin_n first_o compare_v their_o knowledge_n and_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o woman_n thus_o together_o 7._o she_o know_v that_o he_o can_v forgive_v sin_n but_o they_o know_v that_o a_o man_n can_v not_o forgive_v sin_n and_o we_o be_v to_o believe_v that_o all_o that_o be_v both_o they_o which_o sit_v at_o table_n and_o the_o woman_n which_o come_v to_o our_o lord_n foot_n they_o all_o know_v that_o a_o man_n can_v not_o forgive_v sin_n see_v all_o therefore_o know_v this_o she_o who_o believe_v that_o he_o can_v forgive_v sin_n understand_v he_o to_o be_v more_o than_o a_o man_n and_o a_o little_a after_o ibid._n that_o do_v you_o know_v well_o that_o do_v you_o hold_v well_o say_v that_o learned_a father_n hold_v that_o a_o man_n can_v forgive_v sin_n she_o who_o believe_v that_o her_o sin_n be_v forgive_v she_o by_o christ_n believe_v that_o christ_n be_v not_o only_a man_n but_o god_n also_o then_o do_v he_o proceed_v to_o compare_v the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o jew_n then_o with_o the_o opinion_n of_o the_o heretic_n in_o his_o day_n herein_o say_v 8._o he_o the_o pharisee_n be_v better_a than_o these_o man_n for_o when_o he_o do_v think_v that_o christ_n be_v a_o man_n he_o do_v not_o believe_v that_o sin_n can_v be_v forgive_v by_o a_o man_n it_o appear_v therefore_o that_o the_o jew_n have_v better_a understanding_n than_o the_o heretic_n the_o jew_n say_v who_o be_v this_o that_o forgive_v sin_n also_o dare_v a_o man_n challenge_v this_o to_o himself_o what_o say_v the_o heretic_n on_o the_o other_o side_n i_o do_v forgive_v i_o do_v cleanse_v i_o do_v sanctify_v let_v christ_n answer_v he_o not_o i_o o_o man_n when_o i_o be_v think_v by_o the_o jew_n to_o be_v a_o man_n i_o ascribe_v the_o forgiveness_n of_o sin_n to_o faith_n not_o i_o but_o christ_n do_v answer_v thou_o o_o heretic_n thou_o when_o thou_o be_v but_o a_o man_n say_v come_v woman_n i_o do_v make_v the_o safe_a i_o when_o i_o be_v think_v to_o be_v but_o a_o man_n say_v go_v woman_n thy_o faith_n have_v make_v thou_o safe_a the_o heretic_n at_o who_o s._n augustin_n here_o aim_v be_v the_o donatist_n who_o optatus_n also_o before_o he_o do_v thus_o roundly_o take_v up_o for_o the_o same_o presumption_n donatist_n understand_v at_o length_n that_o you_o be_v servant_n and_o not_o lord_n and_o if_o the_o church_n be_v a_o vineyard_n and_o man_n be_v appoint_v to_o be_v dresser_n of_o it_o why_o do_v you_o rush_v into_o the_o dominion_n of_o the_o householder_n why_o do_v you_o challenge_v unto_o yourselves_o that_o which_o be_v god_n ibid._n give_v leave_n unto_o god_n to_o perform_v the_o thing_n that_o belong_v unto_o himself_o for_o that_o gift_n can_v be_v give_v by_o man_n which_o be_v divine_a if_o you_o think_v so_o you_o labour_v to_o frustrate_v the_o word_n of_o the_o prophet_n &_o the_o promise_n of_o god_n by_o which_o it_o be_v prove_v that_o god_n wash_v away_o sin_n and_o not_o man_n it_o be_v note_v likewise_o by_o theodoret_n of_o the_o audian_a heretic_n that_o 4._o they_o brag_v they_o do_v forgive_v sin_n the_o manner_n of_o confession_n which_o he_o say_v be_v use_v among_o they_o be_v not_o much_o unlike_o that_o which_o alvarus_n pelagius_n acknowledge_v to_o have_v be_v the_o usual_a practice_n of_o they_o that_o make_v great_a profession_n of_o religion_n and_o learning_n in_o his_o time_n a._n for_o scarce_o at_o all_o say_v he_o or_o very_o seldom_o do_v any_o of_o they_o confess_v otherwise_o then_o in_o general_a term_n scarce_o do_v they_o ever_o specify_v any_o grievous_a sin_n what_o they_o say_v one_o day_n that_o they_o say_v another_o as_o if_o every_o day_n they_o do_v offend_v alike_o the_o manner_n of_o absolution_n be_v the_o same_o with_o that_o which_o theodoricus_n de_fw-fr niem_n note_v to_o have_v be_v practise_v by_o the_o pardoner_n send_v abroad_o by_o pope_n boniface_n the_o nine_o who_o 68_o release_v all_o sin_n to_o they_o that_o confess_v without_o any_o penance_n or_o repentance_n affirm_v that_o they_o have_v for_o their_o warrant_n in_o so_o do_v all_o that_o power_n which_o christ_n give_v unto_o
peter_n of_o bind_v and_o lose_v upon_o earth_n just_a as_o theodoret_n report_v the_o audian_o be_v wont_a to_o do_v who_o present_o 4._o after_o confession_n grant_v remission_n not_o prescribe_v a_o time_n for_o repentance_n as_o the_o law_n of_o the_o church_n do_v require_v but_o give_v pardon_n by_o authority_n the_o law_n of_o the_o church_n prescribe_v a_o certain_a time_n unto_o penitent_n 65._o wherein_o they_o shall_v give_v proof_n of_o the_o soundness_n of_o their_o repentance_n and_o give_v order_n that_o afterward_o they_o shall_v be_v 2.7_o forgive_v and_o comfort_v lest_o they_o shall_v be_v swallow_v up_o with_o overmuch_a heaviness_n so_o that_o first_o their_o penance_n be_v enjoin_v unto_o they_o and_o thereby_o gretseri_fw-la they_o be_v hold_v to_o be_v bind_v after_o performance_n whereof_o they_o receive_v their_o absolution_n by_o which_o they_o be_v loose_v again_o but_o the_o audian_a heretic_n without_o any_o such_o trial_n take_v of_o their_o repentance_n do_v of_o their_o own_o head_n give_v they_o absolution_n present_o upon_o their_o confession_n as_o the_o popish_a priest_n use_v to_o do_v now_o a_o day_n only_o the_o audian_o have_v one_o ridiculous_a ceremony_n more_o than_o the_o papist_n that_o have_v place_v the_o canonical_a book_n of_o scripture_n upon_o one_o side_n and_o certain_a apocryphal_a write_n on_o the_o other_o they_o cause_v their_o follower_n to_o pass_v betwixt_o they_o and_o in_o their_o pass_v to_o make_v confession_n of_o their_o sin_n as_o the_o papist_n another_o idle_a practice_n more_o than_o they_o that_o after_o they_o have_v give_v absolution_n they_o enjoin_v penance_n to_o the_o party_n absolve_v that_o be_v to_o say_v as_o they_o of_o old_a will_v have_v interpret_v it_o they_o first_o loose_v he_o and_o present_o after_o bind_v he_o which_o howsoever_o they_o hold_v to_o be_v do_v in_o respect_n of_o the_o temporal_a punishment_n remain_v due_a after_o the_o remission_n of_o the_o fault_n yet_o it_o appear_v plain_o that_o the_o penitential_a work_n require_v in_o the_o ancient_a church_n have_v reference_n to_o the_o fault_n itself_o and_o that_o no_o absolution_n be_v to_o be_v expect_v from_o the_o minister_n for_o the_o one_o before_o all_o reckon_n be_v end_v for_o the_o other_o only_o where_o the_o danger_n of_o death_n be_v imminent_a the_o case_n admit_v some_o exception_n reconciliation_n be_v not_o deny_v indeed_o unto_o they_o that_o desire_v it_o at_o such_o a_o time_n yet_o so_o grant_v that_o it_o be_v leave_v very_o doubtful_a whether_o it_o will_v stand_v the_o party_n in_o any_o great_a stead_n or_o no._n penitent_a if_o any_o one_o be_v in_o the_o last_o extremity_n of_o his_o sickness_n say_v s._n augustin_n be_v willing_a to_o receive_v penance_n and_o â—oth_v receive_v it_o and_o be_v present_o reconcile_v and_o depart_v hence_o i_o confess_v unto_o you_o we_o do_v not_o deny_v he_o that_o which_o he_o ask_v but_o we_o do_v not_o presume_v that_o he_o go_v well_o from_o hence_o i_o do_v not_o presume_v i_o deceive_v you_o not_o i_o do_v not_o presume_v ibid._n he_o who_o put_v off_o his_o penance_n to_o the_o last_o and_o be_v reconcile_v whether_o he_o go_v secure_a from_o hence_o i_o be_o not_o secure_a penance_n i_o can_v give_v he_o security_n i_o can_v give_v he_o ibid._n do_v i_o say_v he_o shall_v be_v damn_v i_o say_v not_o so_o but_o do_v i_o say_v also_o he_o shall_v be_v free_v no._n what_o do_v thou_o then_o say_v unto_o i_o i_o know_v not_o i_o presume_v not_o i_o promise_v not_o i_o know_v not_o will_v thou_o free_v thyself_o of_o the_o doubt_n will_v thou_o escape_v that_o which_o be_v uncertain_a do_v thy_o penance_n while_o thou_o be_v in_o health_n tempore_fw-la the_o penance_n which_o be_v ask_v for_o by_o the_o infirm_a man_n be_v infirm_a the_o penance_n which_o be_v ask_v for_o only_a by_o he_o that_o be_v a_o die_a i_o fear_v lest_o it_o also_o die_v but_o with_o the_o matter_n of_o penance_n we_o have_v not_o here_o to_o deal_v those_o formal_a absolution_n and_o pardon_n of_o course_n immediate_o grant_v upon_o the_o hear_n of_o man_n confession_n be_v that_o which_o we_o charge_v the_o romish_a priest_n to_o have_v learn_v from_o the_o audian_a heretic_n 9_o some_o require_v penance_n to_o this_o end_n that_o they_o may_v present_o have_v the_o communion_n restore_v unto_o they_o these_o man_n desire_v not_o so_o much_o to_o loose_v themselves_o as_o to_o bind_v the_o priest_n sai_z s._n ambrose_n if_o this_o be_v true_a that_o the_o priest_n do_v bind_v himself_o by_o his_o hasty_a and_o unadvised_a lose_n of_o other_o the_o case_n be_v like_a to_o go_v hard_o with_o our_o popish_a priest_n who_o ordinary_o in_o bestow_v their_o absolution_n use_v to_o make_v more_o haste_n then_o good_a speed_n wherein_o with_o how_o little_a judgement_n they_o proceed_v who_o thus_o take_v upon_o they_o the_o place_n of_o judge_n in_o man_n conscience_n may_v sufficient_o appear_v by_o this_o that_o whereas_o the_o main_a ground_n whereupon_o they_o will_v build_v the_o necessity_n of_o auricular_a confession_n and_o the_o particular_a enumeration_n of_o all_o know_a sin_n be_v pretend_v to_o be_v this_o that_o the_o ghostly_a father_n have_v take_v notice_n of_o the_o cause_n may_v judge_v righteous_a judgement_n and_o discern_v who_o shall_v be_v bind_v and_o who_o shall_v be_v loose_v the_o matter_n yet_o be_v so_o carry_v in_o this_o court_n of_o they_o that_o every_o man_n common_o go_v away_o with_o his_o absolution_n and_o all_o sort_n of_o people_n usual_o receive_v one_o and_o the_o self_n same_o judgement_n 19_o if_o thou_o separate_v the_o precious_a from_o the_o vile_a thou_o shall_v be_v as_o my_o mouth_n say_v the_o lord_n who_o mouth_n then_o may_v we_o hold_v they_o to_o be_v who_o seldom_o put_v any_o difference_n between_o these_o and_o make_v it_o their_o ordinary_a practice_n to_o pronounce_v the_o same_o sentence_n of_o absolution_n aswell_o upon_o the_o one_o as_o upon_o the_o other_o if_o we_o will_v know_v how_o late_o it_o be_v before_o this_o trade_n of_o pardon_v man_n sin_n after_o this_o manner_n be_v establish_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n we_o can_v discover_v this_o better_a then_o by_o trace_v out_o the_o doctrine_n public_o teach_v in_o that_o church_n touch_v this_o matter_n from_o the_o time_n of_o satan_n lose_v until_o his_o bind_v again_o by_o the_o restore_n of_o the_o purity_n of_o the_o gospel_n in_o our_o day_n and_o here_o radulphus_fw-la arden_n do_v in_o the_o first_o place_n offer_v himself_o who_o towards_o the_o begin_n of_o that_o time_n preach_v this_o for_o sound_a divinity_n pascha_fw-la the_o power_n of_o release_n sin_n belong_v to_o god_n alone_o but_o the_o ministry_n which_o improper_o also_o be_v call_v a_o power_n he_o have_v grant_v unto_o his_o substitute_n who_o after_o their_o manner_n do_v bind_v and_o absolve_v that_o be_v to_o say_v do_v declare_v that_o man_n be_v bind_v or_o absolve_v for_o god_n do_v first_o inward_o absolve_v the_o sinner_n by_o compunction_n and_o then_o the_o priest_n outward_o by_o give_v the_o sentence_n do_v declare_v that_o he_o be_v absolve_v which_o be_v well_o signify_v by_o that_o of_o lazarus_n who_o first_o in_o the_o grave_n be_v raise_v up_o by_o the_o lord_n and_o afterward_o by_o the_o ministry_n of_o the_o disciple_n be_v loose_v from_o the_o band_n wherewith_o he_o be_v tie_v then_o follow_v both_o the_o anselmes_n we_o of_o canterbury_n and_o the_o other_o of_o laon_n in_o france_n who_o in_o their_o exposition_n upon_o the_o nine_o of_o s._n matthew_n clear_o teach_v that_o none_o but_o god_n alone_o can_v forgive_v sin_n ivo_n bishop_n of_o chartres_n write_v that_o 228._o by_o inward_a contrition_n the_o inward_a judge_n be_v satisfy_v and_o therefore_o without_o delay_n forgiveness_n of_o the_o sin_n be_v grant_v by_o he_o unto_o who_o the_o inward_a conversion_n be_v manifest_a but_o the_o church_n because_o it_o know_v not_o the_o hide_a thing_n of_o the_o heart_n do_v not_o loose_v he_o that_o be_v bind_v although_o he_o be_v raise_v up_o until_o he_o be_v bring_v out_o of_o the_o tomb_n that_o be_v to_o say_v purge_v by_o public_a satisfaction_n and_o if_o present_o upon_o the_o inward_a conversion_n god_n be_v please_v to_o forgive_v the_o sin_n the_o absolution_n of_o the_o priest_n which_o follow_v can_v in_o any_o sort_n proper_o be_v account_v a_o remission_n of_o that_o sin_n but_o a_o further_a manifestation_n only_o of_o the_o remission_n former_o grant_v by_o god_n himself_o the_o master_n of_o the_o sentence_n after_o he_o have_v propound_v the_o diverse_a opinion_n of_o the_o doctor_n touch_v this_o point_n demand_v at_o last_o f._n in_o this_o so_o great_a variety_n what_o be_v to_o be_v hold_v and_o return_v for_o
particular_a error_n which_o seem_v to_o have_v get_v head_n in_o his_o time_n as_o be_v most_o plausible_a to_o the_o multitude_n and_o very_o please_v unto_o the_o loose_a sort_n of_o christian_n therein_o he_o do_v well_o but_o that_o thereupon_o he_o condemn_v the_o general_a practice_n of_o the_o church_n which_o have_v no_o dependence_n upon_o that_o erroneous_a conceit_n therein_o he_o do_v like_a unto_o himself_o heady_o and_o perverse_o for_o the_o church_n in_o her_o commemoration_n and_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a have_v no_o relation_n at_o all_o unto_o those_o that_o have_v lead_v their_o life_n lewd_o and_o dissolute_o as_o appear_v plain_o both_o by_o the_o 〈◊〉_d author_n of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a hierarchy_n and_o by_o diverse_a other_o evidence_n before_o allege_a but_o unto_o those_o that_o do_v end_v their_o life_n in_o such_o a_o godly_a manner_n as_o give_v pregnant_a hope_n unto_o the_o live_n that_o their_o soul_n be_v at_o rest_n with_o god_n and_o to_o such_o as_o these_o alone_o do_v it_o wish_v the_o accomplishment_n of_o that_o which_o remain_v of_o their_o redemption_n to_o wit_n their_o public_a justification_n and_o solemn_a acquittal_n at_o the_o last_o day_n and_o their_o perfect_a consummation_n of_o bliss_n both_o in_o body_n and_o soul_n in_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n for_o ever_o after_o not_o that_o the_o event_n of_o these_o thing_n be_v conceive_v to_o be_v any_o way_n doubtful_a for_o we_o have_v be_v tell_v that_o thing_n may_v be_v pray_v for_o the_o event_n whereof_o be_v know_v to_o be_v most_o certain_a but_o because_o the_o commemoration_n thereof_o be_v think_v to_o serve_v for_o special_a use_n not_o only_o in_o regard_n of_o the_o manifestation_n of_o the_o affection_n of_o the_o live_n towards_o the_o dead_a he_o that_o pray_v as_o dionysius_n note_v ibid._n desire_v other_o man_n gift_n as_o if_o they_o be_v his_o own_o grace_n but_o also_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o consolation_n and_o instruction_n which_o the_o live_a may_v receive_v thereby_o as_o epiphanius_n in_o his_o answer_n to_o aërius_n do_v more_o particular_o declare_v the_o objection_n of_o aërius_n be_v this_o the_o commemoration_n and_o prayer_n use_v in_o the_o church_n bring_v no_o profit_n to_o the_o dead_a therefore_o as_o a_o unprofitable_a thing_n they_o be_v to_o be_v reject_v to_o this_o do_v epiphanius_n thus_o frame_v his_o answer_n 75._o as_o for_o the_o recite_v of_o the_o name_n of_o those_o that_o be_v decease_v what_o can_v be_v better_o than_o this_o what_o more_o commodious_a and_o more_o admirable_a that_o such_o as_o be_v present_a do_v believe_v that_o they_o who_o be_v depart_v do_v live_v and_o be_v not_o extinguish_v but_o be_v still_o be_v and_o live_v with_o the_o lord_n and_o that_o this_o most_o pious_a preach_n may_v be_v declare_v that_o they_o who_o pray_v for_o their_o brethren_n have_v hope_n of_o they_o as_o be_v in_o a_o peregrination_n which_o be_v as_o much_o in_o effect_n as_o if_o he_o have_v deny_v aërius_n his_o consequence_n and_o answer_v he_o that_o although_o the_o dead_a be_v not_o profit_v by_o this_o action_n yet_o it_o do_v not_o therefore_o follow_v that_o it_o shall_v be_v condemn_v as_o altogether_o unprofitable_a because_o it_o have_v a_o singular_a use_n otherwise_o namely_o to_o testify_v the_o faith_n and_o the_o hope_n of_o the_o live_n concern_v the_o dead_a the_o faith_n in_o 29._o declare_v they_o to_o be_v alive_a for_o so_o do_v dionysius_n also_o expound_v the_o church_n intention_n in_o her_o public_a nomination_n of_o the_o dead_a and_o as_o divinity_n teach_v not_o mortify_v but_o translate_v from_o death_n unto_o a_o most_o divine_a life_n the_o hope_n in_o that_o they_o signify_v hereby_o that_o they_o account_v their_o brethren_n to_o have_v depart_v from_o they_o no_o otherwise_o than_o as_o if_o they_o have_v be_v in_o a_o journey_n with_o expectation_n to_o meet_v they_o afterward_o and_o by_o this_o mean_v make_v a_o difference_n betwixt_o themselves_o and_o 4.13_o other_o which_o have_v no_o hope_n then_o do_v epiphanius_n proceed_v further_a in_o answer_v the_o same_o objection_n after_o this_o manner_n 75._o the_o prayer_n also_o which_o be_v make_v for_o they_o do_v profit_n although_o it_o do_v not_o cut_v off_o all_o their_o sin_n yet_o forasmuch_o as_o while_o we_o be_v in_o the_o world_n we_o oftentimes_o slip_v both_o unwilling_o and_o with_o our_o will_n it_o serve_v to_o signify_v that_o which_o be_v more_o perfect_a for_o we_o make_v a_o memorial_n both_o for_o the_o just_a and_o for_o sinner_n for_o sinner_n entreat_v the_o mercy_n of_o god_n for_o the_o just_a both_o the_o father_n and_o patriarch_n the_o prophet_n and_o apostle_n and_o evangelist_n and_o martyr_n and_o confessor_n bishops'_v also_o and_o anchorite_n and_o the_o whole_a order_n that_o we_o may_v sever_v our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n from_o the_o rank_n of_o all_o other_o man_n by_o the_o honour_n that_o we_o do_v unto_o he_o and_o that_o we_o may_v yield_v worship_n unto_o he_o which_o as_o far_o as_o i_o apprehend_v he_o be_v no_o more_o than_o if_o he_o have_v thus_o reply_v unto_o aërius_n although_o the_o prayer_n that_o be_v make_v for_o the_o dead_a do_v not_o cut_v off_o all_o their_o sin_n which_o be_v the_o only_a thing_n that_o thou_o go_v about_o to_o prove_v yet_o do_v it_o profit_v notwithstanding_o for_o another_o purpose_n namely_o to_o signify_v the_o supereminent_a perfection_n of_o our_o saviour_n christ_n above_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o son_n of_o man_n who_o be_v subject_a to_o manifold_a slip_n and_o fall_n as_o long_o as_o they_o live_v in_o this_o world_n for_o aswell_o the_o righteous_a with_o their_o involuntarie_a slip_n as_o sinner_n with_o their_o voluntary_a fall_n do_v come_v within_o the_o compass_n of_o these_o commemoration_n wherein_o prayer_n be_v make_v both_o for_o â—â—_o sinner_n that_o repent_v and_o for_o righteous_a person_n that_o have_v no_o such_o need_n of_o repentance_n for_o sinner_n that_o be_v by_o their_o repentance_n recover_v out_o of_o the_o snare_n of_o the_o devil_n they_o may_v find_v mercy_n of_o the_o lord_n at_o the_o last_o day_n and_o be_v free_v from_o the_o fire_n prepare_v for_o the_o devil_n and_o his_o angel_n for_o the_o righteous_a that_o they_o may_v be_v recompense_v in_o the_o resurrection_n of_o the_o just_a and_o receive_v into_o the_o kingdom_n prepare_v for_o they_o from_o the_o foundation_n of_o the_o world_n which_o kind_n of_o prayer_n be_v make_v for_o the_o best_a man_n that_o ever_o live_v even_o the_o patriarch_n prophet_n apostle_n evangelist_n and_o martyr_n themselves_o christ_n only_a except_v show_v that_o the_o profit_n which_o the_o church_n intend_v shall_v be_v reap_v therefrom_o be_v not_o the_o take_v away_o of_o the_o sin_n of_o the_o party_n that_o be_v pray_v for_o but_o the_o honour_n of_o their_o lord_n above_o they_o it_o be_v hereby_o declare_v 75._o that_o our_o lord_n be_v not_o to_o be_v compare_v unto_o any_o man_n though_o a_o man_n live_v in_o righteousness_n a_o thousand_o time_n and_o more_o for_o how_o shall_v that_o be_v possible_a consider_v that_o the_o one_o be_v god_n the_o other_o man_n as_o the_o pray_n to_o the_o one_o and_o for_o the_o other_o do_v discover_v and_o the_o one_o be_v in_o heaven_n the_o other_o in_o earth_n by_o reason_n of_o the_o remain_v of_o the_o body_n yet_o rest_v in_o the_o earth_n until_o the_o day_n of_o the_o resurrection_n unto_o which_o all_o these_o prayer_n have_v special_a reference_n this_o do_v i_o conceive_v to_o be_v the_o right_a meaning_n of_o epiphanius_n his_o answer_n as_o suit_v best_o both_o with_o the_o general_a intention_n of_o the_o church_n which_o he_o take_v upon_o he_o to_o vindicate_v from_o the_o misconstruction_n of_o aërius_n &_o with_o the_o application_n thereof_o unto_o his_o objection_n &_o with_o the_o know_a doctrine_n of_o epiphanius_n deliver_v by_o he_o elsewhere_o in_o these_o term_n 59_o after_o death_n there_o be_v no_o help_n to_o be_v get_v either_o by_o godliness_n or_o by_o repentance_n for_o lazarus_n do_v not_o go_v there_o unto_o the_o rich_a man_n nor_o the_o rich_a man_n unto_o lazarus_n neither_o do_v abraham_n send_v any_o of_o his_o spoil_n that_o the_o poor_a may_v be_v afterward_o make_v rich_a thereby_o neither_o do_v the_o rich_a man_n obtain_v that_o which_o he_o ask_v although_o he_o entreat_v merciful_a abraham_n â—ith_v instant_a supplication_n for_o the_o garner_n be_v seal_v up_o and_o the_o time_n be_v fulfil_v and_o the_o combat_n be_v finish_v and_o the_o list_n be_v void_v and_o the_o garland_n be_v give_v and_o such_o as_o have_v fight_v be_v at_o rest_n and_o such_o as_o have_v not_o obtain_v be_v go_v forth_o and_o such_o as_o have_v not_o fight_v can_v now_o be_v present_a in_o time_n
our_o lord_n as_o in_o the_o end_n of_o this_o book_n say_v he_o he_o do_v testify_v mean_v the_o apocryphal_a appendix_n which_o be_v annex_v to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o greek_a edition_n of_o job_n wherein_o we_o read_v thus_o job._n it_o be_v write_v that_o he_o shall_v rise_v again_o with_o those_o who_o the_o lord_n be_v to_o raise_v which_o although_o it_o be_v account_v to_o have_v proceed_v from_o the_o septuagint_n yet_o the_o thing_n itself_o show_v that_o it_o be_v add_v by_o some_o that_o live_v after_o the_o come_n of_o our_o saviour_n christ._n touch_v adam_n s._n augustine_n affirm_v that_o 99_o the_o whole_a church_n almost_o do_v consent_n that_o christ_n loose_v he_o in_o hell_n which_o we_o be_v to_o believe_v say_v he_o that_o she_o do_v not_o vain_o believe_v whencesoever_o this_o tradition_n come_v although_o no_o express_a authority_n of_o the_o canonical_a scripture_n be_v produce_v for_o it_o the_o only_a place_n which_o he_o can_v think_v off_o that_o seem_v to_o look_v this_o way_n be_v that_o in_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o ten_o chapter_n of_o the_o book_n of_o wisdom_n she_o keep_v he_o who_o be_v the_o first_o form_v father_n of_o the_o world_n when_o he_o be_v create_v alone_o and_o bring_v he_o out_o of_o his_o sin_n which_o will_v be_v much_o more_o pertinent_a to_o the_o purpose_n if_o that_o be_v add_v which_o present_o follow_v in_o the_o lyrani_n latin_a text_n i_o mean_v in_o the_o old_a edition_n for_o the_o new_a correct_v one_o have_v leave_v it_o out_o et_fw-la eduxit_fw-la illum_fw-la de_fw-la limo_fw-la terrae_fw-la and_o bring_v he_o out_o of_o the_o clay_n of_o the_o earth_n which_o be_v place_v after_o the_o bring_n of_o he_o out_o of_o his_o sin_n may_v seem_v to_o have_v reference_n unto_o some_o deliverance_n like_o that_o of_o david_n psalm_n 40_o 2._o he_o bring_v i_o up_o out_o of_o the_o horrible_a pit_n out_o of_o the_o mirye_a clay_n rather_o then_o unto_o his_o first_o creation_n out_o of_o the_o dust_n of_o the_o earth_n so_o limus_fw-la terrae_fw-la may_v here_o answer_v well_o unto_o the_o arabian_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d al-tharai_a which_o proper_o signify_v moist_a earth_n or_o slime_n or_o clay_n be_v by_o the_o arabic_a interpreter_n of_o moses_n use_v to_o express_v the_o hebrew_n 32.22_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o we_o translate_v hell_n or_o grave_a and_o as_o this_o place_n in_o the_o book_n of_o wisdom_n may_v be_v thus_o apply_v unto_o the_o raise_n of_o adam_n body_n out_o of_o the_o earth_n wherein_o he_o lay_v bury_v so_o may_v that_o other_o tradition_n also_o which_o be_v so_o currant_n in_o the_o church_n be_v refer_v unto_o the_o self_n same_o thing_n even_o to_o the_o bring_n of_o adam_n out_o of_o the_o hell_n of_o the_o grave_a the_o very_a liturgy_n of_o the_o church_n do_v lead_v we_o unto_o this_o interpretation_n of_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o church_n beside_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o father_n which_o discover_v unto_o we_o the_o first_o ground_n and_o foundation_n of_o this_o tradition_n in_o the_o liturgy_n of_o the_o church_n of_o alexandria_n ascribe_v to_o s._n mark_v our_o saviour_n christ_n be_v thus_o call_v upon_o liturg._n o_o most_o great_a king_n and_o coëternall_a to_o the_o father_n who_o by_o thy_o might_n do_v spoil_v hell_n and_o tread_v down_o death_n and_o bind_v the_o strong_a one_o and_o raise_v adam_n out_o of_o the_o grave_n by_o thy_o divine_a power_n and_o the_o bright_a splendour_n of_o thy_o unspeakable_a godhead_n in_o the_o liturgy_n of_o the_o church_n of_o constantinople_n translate_v into_o latin_a by_o leo_n thusâ—us_n the_o like_a speech_n be_v use_v of_o he_o latin_n he_o do_v voluntary_o undergo_v the_o cross_n for_o we_o by_o which_o he_o raise_v up_o the_o first_o form_v man_n and_o save_v our_o soul_n from_o death_n and_o in_o the_o octoëchon_n anastasimon_n and_o pentecostarion_n of_o the_o grecian_n at_o this_o day_n such_o say_n as_o these_o be_v very_o usual_a b_o thou_o do_v undergo_v burial_n and_o rise_v in_o glory_n and_o raise_v up_o adam_n together_o with_o thou_o by_o thy_o almighty_a hand_n 239._o rise_v out_o of_o thy_o tomb_n thou_o do_v raise_v up_o the_o dead_a and_o break_v the_o poâ—er_n of_o death_n and_o raise_v up_o adam_n b._n have_v sleep_v in_o the_o flesh_n as_o a_o mortal_a man_n o_o king_n and_o lord_n the_o three_o day_n thou_o do_v arise_v again_o raise_v adam_n from_o corruption_n and_o abolish_n death_n b._n jesus_n the_o deliverer_n who_o raise_v up_o adam_n of_o his_o compassion_n etc._n etc._n therefore_o do_v theodorus_n prodromus_n begin_v his_o tetrastich_n upon_o our_o savior_n resurrection_n with_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d rise_v up_o thou_o first_o form_v old_a man_n rise_v up_o from_o thy_o grave_n s._n ambrose_n point_v to_o the_o ground_n of_o the_o tradition_n when_o he_o intimate_v that_o christ_n suffer_v in_o 19_o golgotha_n where_o adam_n sepulchre_n be_v that_o by_o his_o cross_n he_o may_v raise_v he_o that_o be_v dead_a that_o where_o in_o adam_n the_o death_n of_o all_o man_n lay_v therein_o christ_n may_v be_v the_o resurrection_n of_o all_o which_o he_o receive_v as_o he_o do_v many_o other_o thing_n beside_o from_o origen_n who_o write_v thus_o of_o the_o matter_n 27._o there_o come_v unto_o i_o some_o such_o tradition_n as_o this_o that_o the_o body_n of_o adam_n the_o first_o man_n mass_fw-mi bury_v there_o where_o christ_n be_v crucify_v that_o as_o in_o adam_n all_o do_v die_v so_o in_o christ_n all_o may_v be_v make_v alive_a that_o in_o the_o place_n which_o be_v call_v the_o place_n of_o calvarie_n that_o be_v the_o place_n of_o the_o head_n the_o head_n of_o mankind_n may_v find_v resurrection_n with_o all_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o people_n by_o the_o resurrection_n of_o our_o lord_n and_o saviour_n who_o suffer_v there_o and_o rose_n again_o for_o it_o be_v unfit_a that_o when_o many_o which_o be_v bear_v of_o he_o do_v receive_v forgiveness_n of_o their_o sin_n and_o obtain_v the_o benefit_n of_o resurrection_n he_o who_o be_v the_o father_n of_o all_o man_n shall_v not_o much_o more_o obtain_v the_o like_a grace_n athanasius_n or_o who_o ever_o else_o be_v author_n of_o the_o discourse_n upon_o the_o passion_n of_o our_o lord_n which_o bear_v his_o name_n refer_v this_o tradition_n of_o adam_n burial_n place_n unto_o the_o report_n of_o the_o domini_fw-la doctor_n of_o the_o hebrew_n from_o who_o belike_o he_o think_v that_o origen_n have_v receive_v it_o and_o add_v withal_o that_o it_o be_v very_o fit_a that_o where_o it_o be_v say_v to_o adam_n earth_n thou_o be_v and_o to_o earth_n thou_o shall_v return_v our_o saviour_n find_v he_o there_o shall_v say_v unto_o he_o again_o arise_v thou_o that_o sleep_v and_o stand_v up_o from_o the_o dead_a and_o christ_n shall_v give_v thou_o light_n 17._o epiphanius_n go_v a_o little_a furthet_n and_o find_v out_o a_o mystery_n in_o the_o water_n and_o blood_n that_o fall_v from_o the_o cross_n upon_o the_o relic_n of_o our_o first_o father_n lie_v bury_v under_o it_o apply_v thereunto_o both_o that_o in_o the_o gospel_n of_o the_o arise_v of_o many_o of_o the_o saint_n matth._n 27.52_o and_o that_o other_o place_n in_o s._n paul_n arise_v thou_o that_o sleep_v etc._n etc._n ephes._n 5.14_o which_o strange_a speculation_n with_o what_o great_a applause_n it_o be_v receive_v by_o the_o multitude_n at_o the_o first_o delivery_n of_o it_o and_o for_o how_o little_a reason_n he_o that_o list_v may_v read_v in_o the_o four_o book_n of_o s._n hieroms_n commentary_n upon_o the_o 27._o of_o s._n matthew_n &_o in_o his_o three_o upon_o the_o five_o to_o the_o ephesian_n for_o upon_o this_o first_o point_n of_o christ_n descent_n into_o the_o hell_n of_o the_o grave_n and_o the_o bring_n of_o adam_n and_o his_o child_n with_o he_o from_o thence_o we_o have_v dwell_v too_o long_o already_o in_o the_o second_o place_n therefore_o we_o be_v now_o to_o consider_v that_o as_o háde_n and_o inferi_n which_o we_o call_v hell_n be_v apply_v by_o rhe_n interpreter_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n to_o denote_v the_o place_n of_o body_n separate_v from_o their_o soul_n so_o with_o foreign_a author_n in_o who_o language_n as_o be_v that_o wherewith_o the_o common_a people_n be_v acquaint_v the_o church_n also_o do_v use_v to_o speak_v the_o same_o term_n do_v signify_v ordinary_o the_o common_a lodge_n of_o soul_n separate_v from_o their_o body_n whether_o the_o particular_a place_n assign_v unto_o each_o of_o they_o be_v conceive_v to_o be_v a_o habitation_n of_o bliss_n or_o of_o misery_n for_o as_o when_o the_o grave_n be_v say_v to_o be_v the_o common_a receptacle_n of_o dead_a body_n it_o be_v not_o mean_v thereby_o that_o all_o dead_a
the_o ocean_n from_o the_o grecian_n but_o the_o pharisee_n as_o he_o note_v 548._o elsewhere_o hold_v that_o the_o place_n wherein_o both_o reward_n be_v give_v to_o the_o good_a and_o punishment_n to_o the_o wicked_a be_v under_o the_o earth_n which_o as_o 267._o origen_n do_v declare_v to_o have_v be_v the_o common_a opinion_n of_o the_o jew_n so_o do_v lucian_n show_v that_o it_o be_v the_o more_o vulgar_a opinion_n among_o the_o grecian_n for_o among_o they_o luctu_fw-la the_o common_a multitude_n who_o wise_a man_n say_v he_o call_v simple_a people_n be_v persuade_v of_o these_o thing_n by_o homer_n and_o hesiod_n and_o such_o other_o fabulous_a author_n and_o receive_v their_o poem_n for_o a_o law_n take_v hades_n to_o be_v a_o certain_a deep_a place_n under_o the_o earth_n the_o first_o original_n of_o which_o conceit_n be_v by_o cicero_n derive_v from_o hence_o 1._o the_o body_n fall_v into_o the_o ground_n and_o be_v cover_v with_o earth_n whence_o they_o be_v say_v to_o be_v inter_v man_n think_v that_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o life_n of_o the_o dead_a be_v lead_v under_o the_o earth_n upon_o which_o opinion_n of_o they_o say_v he_o great_a error_n do_v ensue_v which_o be_v increase_v by_o the_o poë_n other_o do_v imagine_v that_o the_o poet_n herein_o have_v some_o relation_n to_o the_o 6._o spherical_a situation_n of_o the_o world_n for_o the_o better_a understanding_n whereof_o these_o particular_n follow_v will_v be_v consider_v by_o they_o that_o have_v some_o knowledge_n in_o this_o kind_n of_o learning_n first_o the_o material_a sphere_n in_o ancient_a time_n be_v not_o make_v movable_a in_o their_o socket_n as_o they_o be_v now_o that_o they_o may_v be_v set_v to_o any_o elevation_n of_o the_o pole_n but_o be_v 13._o fix_v to_o the_o elevation_n of_o xxxvi_o degree_n which_o be_v the_o height_n of_o the_o rhodian_a climate_n second_o the_o horizon_n which_o divide_v this_o sphere_n through_o the_o middle_n and_o separate_v the_o visible_a part_n of_o the_o world_n from_o the_o invisible_a be_v common_o esteem_v the_o utmost_a bind_v of_o the_o earth_n so_o that_o whatsoever_o be_v under_o that_o horizon_n be_v account_v to_o be_v under_o the_o earth_n for_o neither_o the_o common_a people_n nor_o yet_o some_o of_o the_o learned_a doctros_n of_o the_o church_n as_o 23._o lactantius_n 9_o s._n augustine_n 1._o procopius_n and_o other_o can_v be_v induce_v to_o believe_v that_o which_o our_o daily_a navigation_n find_v now_o to_o be_v most_o certain_a that_o there_o shall_v be_v another_o southern_a hemisphere_n of_o the_o earth_n inhabit_v by_o any_o antipode_n that_o do_v walk_v with_o their_o foot_n just_o opposite_a unto_o we_o three_o the_o great_a ocean_n be_v suppose_v to_o be_v the_o thing_n in_o nature_n which_o be_v answerable_a to_o this_o horizon_n in_o the_o sphere_n therefore_o it_o be_v observe_v by_o 〈◊〉_d strabo_n that_o homer_n and_o by_o paris_n theon_n 〈◊〉_d achilles_n statius_n and_o other_o that_o aratus_n and_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o poet_n do_v put_v the_o ocean_n for_o the_o horizon_n and_o thereupon_o where_o the_o astronomer_n say_v that_o the_o sun_n or_o the_o star_n at_o their_o set_n go_v under_o the_o horizon_n the_o common_a phrase_n of_o the_o poet_n be_v that_o they_o do_v tingere_fw-la se_fw-la oceano_fw-la dive_v themselves_o into_o the_o ocean_n for_o as_o they_o take_v the_o earth_n to_o be_v but_o half_a a_o globe_n and_o not_o a_o whole_a one_o so_o they_o imagine_v that_o demye_n globe_n to_o be_v as_o it_o be_v a_o great_a mountain_n or_o island_n seat_v in_o and_o environ_v round_o about_o with_o the_o ocean_n thus_o the_o author_n of_o the_o book_n de_fw-fr mundo_fw-la affirm_v that_o 3._o the_o whole_a world_n be_v one_o island_n compass_v about_o with_o the_o atlantic_a sea_n and_o dionysius_n alexandrinus_n in_o the_o begin_n of_o his_o geography_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d wherein_o he_o follow_v eratosthenes_n as_o his_o expositor_n eustathius_n there_o note_v who_o compare_v also_o with_o this_o that_o place_n of_o orpheus_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d whereunto_o answer_v that_o of_o 115._o euphorion_n or_o as_o 93._o achilles_n statius_n cit_v it_o of_o neoptolemus_n parianus_n in_o his_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o this_o opinion_n of_o they_o the_o father_n of_o the_o church_n do_v the_o more_o ready_o entertain_v because_o they_o think_v it_o have_v ground_n from_o genesim_fw-la psalm_n 24.2_o and_o 136.6_o and_o such_o other_o testimony_n of_o holy_a scripture_n 1._o that_o the_o whole_a earth_n say_v procopius_n gazaeus_n do_v subsist_v in_o the_o water_n and_o that_o there_o be_v no_o part_n of_o it_o which_o be_v situate_v under_o we_o void_a and_o clear_v of_o water_n i_o suppose_v it_o be_v know_v unto_o all_o for_o so_o do_v the_o scripture_n teach_v who_o stretch_v out_o the_o earth_n upon_o the_o water_n and_o again_o he_o have_v found_v it_o upon_o the_o sea_n and_o prepare_v it_o upon_o the_o flood_n neither_o be_v it_o fit_a we_o shall_v believe_v that_o any_o earth_n under_o we_o be_v inhabit_v opposite_a unto_o our_o part_n of_o the_o world_n the_o same_o collection_n be_v make_v by_o s._n 2._o hilary_n 12._o chrysostom_n 1._o caesarius_n and_o other_o four_o it_o be_v think_v by_o the_o ancient_a heathen_a that_o the_o ocean_n supply_v the_o place_n of_o the_o horizon_n do_v congessit_fw-la separate_v the_o visible_a world_n from_o the_o kingdom_n of_o hades_n and_o therefore_o that_o such_o as_o go_v to_o háde_n or_o the_o world_n invisible_a to_o we_o must_v first_o pass_v the_o ocean_n and_o that_o the_o pole_n antarctick_a be_v see_v by_o they_o there_o as_o the_o arctic_a or_o north_n pole_n be_v by_o we_o here_o according_a to_o that_o of_o virgil_n in_o his_o georgic_n hic_fw-la vertex_fw-la nobis_fw-la semper_fw-la sublimis_fw-la at_o illum_fw-la sub_fw-la pedibus_fw-la styx_n atra_fw-la videt_fw-la manesque_fw-la profundi_fw-la five_o as_o they_o hold_v that_o hades_n be_v for_o situation_n place_v from_o the_o centre_n of_o the_o earth_n downward_o so_o betwixt_o the_o beginning_n and_o the_o low_a part_n thereof_o they_o imagine_v as_o great_a a_o space_n to_o be_v interject_v as_o there_o be_v betwixt_o heaven_n and_o earth_n so_o say_v apollodorus_n of_o tartarus_n the_o dungeon_n of_o torment_n 1._o this_o be_v a_o dark_a place_n in_o hades_n have_v as_o great_a a_o distance_n from_o the_o earth_n as_o the_o earth_n from_o the_o heaven_n and_o hesiod_n in_o his_o theogonia_n agreable_o to_o that_o which_o before_o we_o hear_v from_o homer_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d it_o be_v as_o far_o beneath_o the_o earth_n as_o heaven_n be_v from_o the_o earth_n for_o thus_o equal_a be_v the_o distance_n from_o the_o earth_n unto_o dark_a tartarus_n whereunto_o that_o of_o virgil_n may_v be_v add_v in_o the_o â—ixt_v of_o the_o aeneid_n tum_fw-la tartarus_n ipse_fw-la bis_n patet_fw-la in_o praeceps_fw-la tantum_fw-la tenditque_fw-la sub_fw-la umbras_fw-la quantus_fw-la ad_fw-la aethereum_fw-la coeli_fw-la suspectus_fw-la olympum_fw-la then_o tartarus_n itself_o that_o sinkehole_n steep_a two_o time_n as_o low_o descend_v two_o time_n as_o headlong_o downright_a deep_a as_o heaven_n upright_o â—s_v high_a that_o see_v how_o high_a the_o heaven_n be_v over_o we_o when_o we_o look_v upward_o to_o it_o the_o downright_a distance_n from_o thence_o to_o tartarus_n shall_v be_v twice_o as_o deep_a again_o for_o so_o we_o must_v conceive_v the_o poet_n meaning_n to_o be_v if_o we_o will_v make_v he_o to_o accord_v with_o the_o rest_n of_o his_o fellow_n these_o observation_n i_o doubt_v not_o will_v be_v censure_v by_o many_o to_o savour_v of_o a_o needless_a and_o fruitless_a curiosity_n but_o the_o intelligent_a reader_n for_o all_o that_o will_v easy_o discern_v how_o hereby_o he_o may_v be_v lead_v to_o understand_v in_o what_o sense_n the_o ancient_a both_o heathen_a and_o christian_a writer_n do_v hold_v hades_n to_o be_v under_o the_o earth_n and_o upon_o what_o ground_n for_o they_o do_v not_o mean_v thereby_o as_o the_o schoolman_n general_o do_v and_o as_o 55._o tertullian_n sometime_o seem_v to_o imagine_v that_o it_o be_v contain_v within_o the_o bowel_n of_o the_o earth_n but_o that_o it_o lay_v under_o the_o whole_a bulk_n thereof_o and_o occupy_v that_o whole_a space_n which_o we_o now_o find_v to_o be_v take_v up_o with_o the_o earth_n air_n and_o firmament_n of_o the_o southern_a hemisphere_n 2._o the_o inhabitant_n of_o which_o infernal_a region_n and_o vast_a depth_n be_v thereupon_o affirm_v by_o s._n hilary_n to_o be_v non_fw-la intra_fw-la terram_fw-la sed_fw-la infra_fw-la terram_fw-la not_o within_o the_o earth_n but_o beneath_o the_o earth_n and_o this_o proceed_v
ground_n from_o whence_o that_o invocation_n of_o saint_n do_v proceed_v whereby_o the_o honour_n of_o god_n and_o christ_n office_n of_o mediation_n be_v afterward_o so_o much_o obscure_v that_o say_v of_o s._n augustin_n be_v very_o memorable_a and_o worthy_a to_o be_v ponder_v 42._o who_o shall_v i_o find_v that_o may_v reconcile_v i_o unto_o thou_o shall_v i_o have_v go_v unto_o the_o angel_n with_o what_o prayer_n with_o what_o sacrament_n many_o endeavour_v to_o return_v unto_o thou_o and_o not_o be_v able_a to_o do_v it_o by_o themselves_o as_o i_o hear_v have_v try_v these_o thing_n and_o have_v fall_v into_o the_o desire_n of_o curious_a vision_n and_o be_v account_v worthy_a of_o illusion_n whether_o they_o that_o have_v recourse_n unto_o the_o mediation_n of_o martyr_n in_o such_o sort_n as_o these_o have_v unto_o the_o mediation_n of_o angel_n deserve_v to_o be_v punish_v with_o the_o like_a delusion_n i_o leave_v to_o the_o judgement_n of_o other_o the_o thing_n which_o i_o observe_v be_v this_o that_o such_o dream_n and_o vision_n as_o these_o join_v with_o the_o miraculous_a cure_n that_o be_v wrought_v at_o the_o monument_n of_o the_o martyr_n breed_v first_o a_o opinion_n in_o man_n mind_n of_o the_o martyr_n ability_n to_o help_v they_o and_o so_o afterward_o lead_v they_o to_o the_o recommend_v of_o themselves_o unto_o their_o prayer_n and_o protection_n where_o at_o first_o they_o expect_v only_o by_o their_o intercession_n to_o obtain_v temporal_a blessing_n such_o as_o those_o cure_n be_v that_o be_v wrought_v at_o their_o tomb_n and_o other_o like_a external_a benefit_n but_o proceed_v afterwards_o to_o crave_v their_o mediation_n for_o the_o procure_n of_o the_o remission_n of_o their_o sin_n and_o the_o further_a of_o their_o everlasting_a salvation_n sanctis_fw-la as_o often_o dear_a brethren_n as_o we_o do_v celebrate_v the_o solemnity_n of_o the_o holy_a martyr_n let_v we_o so_o expect_v by_o their_o intercession_n to_o obtain_v from_o the_o lord_n temporal_a benefit_n that_o by_o imitate_v the_o martyr_n themselves_o we_o may_v deserve_v to_o receive_v eternal_a say_v the_o author_n of_o the_o sermon_n of_o the_o martyr_n which_o be_v find_v among_o the_o homily_n of_o s._n augustin_n and_o leo_n and_o in_o the_o 4._o roman_a breviary_n be_v appoint_v to_o be_v read_v at_o the_o common_a festival_n day_n of_o many_o martyr_n mamante_n be_v mindful_a of_o the_o martyr_n say_v s._n basil_n in_o his_o panegyricall_a oration_n upon_o mamas_n as_o many_o of_o you_o as_o have_v enjoy_v he_o by_o dream_n as_o many_o of_o you_o as_o come_n to_o this_o place_n have_v have_v he_o a_o helper_n to_o your_o pray_n as_o many_o as_o to_o who_o be_v call_v by_o name_n he_o show_v himself_o present_a by_o his_o work_n as_o many_o traveller_n as_o he_o have_v bring_v back_o again_o as_o many_o as_o he_o have_v raise_v from_o sickness_n as_o many_o as_o he_o have_v restore_v their_o child_n unto_o be_v now_o dead_a as_o many_o as_o have_v receive_v by_o his_o mean_n a_o long_a term_n of_o life_n here_o a_o man_n may_v easy_o discern_v the_o breed_n of_o this_o disease_n and_o as_o it_o be_v the_o grudge_n of_o that_o ague_n that_o afterward_o break_v out_o into_o a_o pestilential_a fever_n the_o martyr_n be_v here_o vocatus_fw-la only_o not_o invocatus_fw-la yet_o not_o call_v upon_o by_o be_v pray_v unto_o but_o call_v to_o join_v with_o other_o in_o put_v up_o the_o same_o petition_n unto_o he_o and_o their_o god_n for_o as_o here_o in_o the_o church_n militant_a we_o have_v our_o fellow-soldier_n 15.30_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d strive_v together_o with_o we_o and_o 1.11_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d help_v together_o with_o their_o prayer_n to_o god_n for_o we_o and_o yet_o because_o we_o pray_v one_o for_o another_o we_o do_v not_o pray_v one_o to_o another_o so_o the_o father_n which_o teach_v that_o the_o saint_n in_o the_o church_n triumphant_a do_v pray_v for_o we_o may_v with_o s._n basil_n acknowledge_v that_o they_o have_v the_o martyr_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d fellowhelper_n to_o their_o prayer_n and_o yet_o pray_v with_o they_o only_o and_o not_o unto_o they_o for_o howsoever_o this_o evil_a weed_n grow_v apace_o among_o the_o superstitious_a multitude_n especial_o yet_o be_v it_o so_o crop_v at_o first_o by_o the_o skilful_a husbandman_n of_o the_o church_n that_o it_o get_v nothing_o near_o that_o height_n which_o under_o the_o papacy_n we_o see_v it_o be_v now_o grow_v unto_o which_o that_o we_o may_v the_o better_o understand_v and_o more_o distinct_o apprehend_v how_o far_o the_o recommend_v of_o man_n self_n unto_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o saint_n which_o begin_v to_o be_v use_v in_o the_o latter_a end_n of_o the_o four_o age_n after_o christ_n come_v short_a of_o that_o invocation_n of_o saint_n which_o be_v at_o this_o day_n practise_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n these_o special_a difference_n may_v be_v observe_v betwixt_o the_o one_o and_o the_o other_o first_o in_o those_o elder_a time_n he_o that_o pray_v silent_o be_v think_v to_o honour_n god_n in_o a_o singular_a manner_n as_o one_o that_o 4._o bring_v faith_n with_o he_o and_o confess_v that_o god_n be_v the_o searcher_n of_o the_o heart_n and_o reins_n and_o hear_v his_o prayer_n before_o it_o be_v pour_v out_o of_o his_o mouth_n the_o understanding_n of_o the_o present_a secret_n of_o the_o heart_n by_o the_o general_a judgement_n of_o the_o father_n graecolat_a be_v no_o more_o communicate_v by_o he_o unto_o the_o creature_n than_o the_o knowledge_n of_o thing_n to_o come_v for_o before_o the_o day_n wherein_o the_o secret_n of_o the_o heart_n shall_v be_v manifest_v possim_fw-la almighty_a god_n alone_o do_v behold_v the_o hide_a thing_n say_v s._n hierome_n allege_v for_o proof_n of_o this_o the_o text_n matth._n 6.4_o thy_o father_n that_o see_v in_o secret_a psalm_n 7.9_o god_n search_v the_o heart_n and_o reins_n and_o 1._o king_n 8.39_o thou_o only_o know_v the_o heart_n of_o all_o the_o child_n of_o man_n but_o now_o in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n mental_a prayer_n be_v preâ—ented_v to_o the_o saint_n as_o well_o as_o vocal_a and_o they_o be_v believe_v to_o receive_v both_o the_o one_o and_o the_o other_o second_o in_o the_o former_a time_n 1._o it_o be_v a_o great_a question_n whether_o at_o all_o or_o how_o far_o or_o after_o what_o manner_n the_o spirit_n of_o the_o dead_a do_v know_v the_o thing_n that_o concern_v we_o here_o and_o consequent_o whether_o they_o pray_v for_o we_o only_o 8._o in_o general_n and_o for_o the_o particular_n god_n answer_v we_o according_a to_o our_o several_a necessity_n where_o when_o and_o after_o what_o manner_n he_o please_v anselmus_n laudunensis_n in_o his_o interlineall_a gloss_n upon_o that_o text_n abraham_n be_v ignorant_a of_o we_o and_o israel_n know_v we_o not_o esai_n 63.16_o note_v that_o 63._o augustine_n say_v that_o the_o dead_a even_o the_o saint_n do_v not_o know_v what_o the_o live_a do_v no_o not_o their_o own_o son_n and_o indeed_o s._n augustine_n in_o his_o book_n of_o the_o care_n for_o the_o dead_a make_v this_o inference_n upon_o that_o place_n of_o scripture_n 13._o if_o such_o great_a patriarch_n as_o these_o be_v ignorant_a what_o be_v do_v towards_o the_o people_n that_o descend_v from_o they_o unto_o who_o believe_v god_n the_o people_n itself_o be_v promise_v to_o come_v from_o their_o stock_n how_o do_v the_o dead_a interpose_v themselves_o in_o know_v and_o further_a the_o thing_n and_o act_n of_o the_o live_n aâ—d_v afterwards_o draw_v these_o conclusion_n from_o thence_o which_o victorint_fw-la hugo_n de_fw-la sancto_fw-la victore_fw-la borrow_v from_o he_o have_v insert_v into_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr spiritu_fw-la &_o animâ_fw-la cap._n 29._o 13._o the_o spirit_n of_o the_o dead_a be_v there_o where_o they_o do_v neither_o see_v nor_o hear_v the_o thing_n that_o be_v do_v or_o fall_v out_o unto_o man_n in_o this_o life_n 14._o yet_o have_v they_o such_o a_o care_n of_o the_o live_n although_o they_o know_v not_o at_o all_o what_o they_o do_v as_o we_o have_v care_n of_o the_o dead_a although_o we_o know_v not_o what_o they_o do_v 15._o the_o dead_a indeed_o do_v not_o know_v what_o be_v do_v here_o while_o it_o be_v here_o in_o do_v but_o afterward_o they_o may_v hear_v it_o by_o such_o as_o die_v and_o go_v unto_o they_o from_o hence_o yet_o not_o altogether_o but_o as_o much_o as_o be_v permit_v to_o the_o one_o to_o tell_v and_o be_v fit_a for_o the_o other_o to_o hear_v they_o may_v know_v it_o also_o by_o the_o angel_n which_o be_v here_o present_a with_o we_o and_o carry_v our_o soul_n unto_o they_o they_o may_v know_v also_o by_o the_o revelation_n of_o god_n spirit_n such_o of_o the_o thing_n do_v here_o as_o