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B00718 A conference of the Catholike and Protestante doctrine with the expresse words of Holie Scripture. Which is the second parte of the prudentiall balance of religion. : VVherein is clearely shewed, that in more than 260 points of controuersie, Catholicks agree with the Holie Scripture, both in words and sense: and Protestants disagree in both, and depraue both the sayings, words, and sense of Scripture. / Written first in Latin, but now augmented and translated into English.; Collatio doctrinae Catholicorum ac Protestantium cum expressis S. Scripturae verbis. English. 1631 Smith, Richard, 1566-1655. 1631 (1631) STC 22810; ESTC S123294 532,875 801

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must_v simple_o and_o absolute_o obey_v the_o voice_n of_o the_o church_n in_o doctrine_n of_o faith_n protestant_n express_o deny_v whitaker_n cont._n 1._o q._n 3._o c._n 3._o we_o must_v not_o simple_o receive_v whatsoever_o hear_v not_o simple_o to_o be_v hear_v the_o church_n teach_v but_o whatsoever_o she_o be_v command_v of_o god_n to_o teach_v and_o prove_v by_o god_n authority_n and_o q._n 5._o c._n 5._o the_o church_n be_v to_o be_v hear_v not_o simple_o in_o all_o her_o say_n decree_n sentence_n and_o commandment_n the_o same_o he_o have_v cont._n 2._o q._n 4._o c._n 2._o and_o l._n 1._o de_fw-la scriptura_fw-la c._n 11._o bucanus_n in_o inst_z theol._n loco_fw-la 43._o must_v we_o simple_o hear_v the_o voice_n of_o the_o church_n and_o receive_v whatsoever_o she_o teach_v no._n reineccius_n to_o 4._o armat_fw-la c._n 3._o we_o must_v believe_v the_o church_n in_o believe_v not_o simple_o to_o be_v believe_v all_o thing_n not_o take_v simple_o and_o absolute_o but_o 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that_o the_o law_n command_v only_o the_o wicked_a that_o that_o be_v justify_v all_o law_n cease_v that_o the_o law_n compel_v no_o more_o that_o we_o be_v not_o bunod_n with_o the_o law_n that_o christ_n have_v abrogate_a all_o law_n that_o that_o the_o law_n be_v not_o give_v to_o the_o just_a in_o any_o use_n that_o no_o law_n bind_v any_o more_o which_o be_v so_o contrary_a to_o scripture_n as_o some_o protestant_n confess_v it_o see_v lib._n 2._o c._n 30._o the_o sum_n of_o this_o chapter_n of_o god_n law_n by_o what_o have_v be_v report_v in_o this_o chapter_n clear_o appear_v that_o protestant_n teach_v quite_o contrary_a to_o the_o holy_a scripture_n concern_v god_n law_n for_o the_o scripture_n together_o with_o catholik_o teach_v that_o god_n law_n be_v possible_a that_o some_o keep_v it_o that_o some_o have_v love_v god_n in_o all_o their_o heart_n that_o god_n law_n be_v in_o the_o heart_n of_o some_o that_o we_o pray_v to_o fulfil_v it_o that_o the_o keep_n of_o it_o be_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n and_o that_o the_o moral_a law_n of_o the_o ten_o commandment_n be_v not_o take_v away_o from_o the_o faithful_a all_o which_o protestant_n deny_v by_o the_o same_o also_o appear_v that_o the_o protestant_n also_o in_o this_o matter_n play_v the_o thief_n for_o they_o take_v from_o god_n law_n that_o it_o be_v possible_a that_o it_o have_v be_v keep_v of_o any_o that_o it_o be_v in_o the_o heart_n of_o any_o that_o it_o be_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n and_o that_o it_o oblige_v the_o faithful_a chapter_n xix_o of_o man_n law_n and_o superiority_n art_fw-la i._o whether_o there_o be_v any_o superiority_n among_o christian_n scripture_n express_o affirmeth._n proverb_n 8._o vers_fw-la s_o 15._o by_o i_o king_n do_v reign_v math._n 24._o v._n 45._o who_o think_v thou_o be_v a_o faithful_a god_n christ_n appoint_v some_o over_o his_o family_n all_o power_n be_v of_o god_n wise_a servant_n who_o his_o lord_n have_v appoint_v over_o his_o family_n rom._n 13._o v._n 1._o let_v every_o soul_n be_v subject_a to_o high_a power_n for_o there_o be_v no_o power_n but_o of_o god_n tite_n 3._o v._o 1._o admonish_v they_o to_o be_v subject_a to_o prince_n and_o potestates_fw-la hebr._n 13._o v._o 17._o obey_v your_o prelate_n and_o be_v subject_a to_o they_o prince_n subject_a to_o prelate_n and_o prince_n act._n 2._o v._n 28._o the_o holy_a ghost_n have_v place_v you_o bishop_n to_o rule_v the_o church_n of_o god_n catholik_o express_o affirm_v c._n bellarm._n l._n 3._o de_fw-la laicis_fw-la c._n 3._o the_o prophet_n foretell_v that_o all_o the_o king_n of_o the_o earth_n shall_v serve_v christ_n and_o the_o church_n which_o can_v be_v unless_o there_o be_v king_n in_o the_o church_n protestant_n express_o deny_v luther_n l._n de_fw-la saeculari_fw-la potestate_fw-la apud_fw-la coccium_n tom_n 1._o l._n 7._o none_o no_o superiority_n among_o christian_n a_o christian_a subject_n to_o none_o art_n 1._o among_o christian_n there_o can_v be_v no_o superiority_n de_fw-fr libertate_fw-la christiana_n to_o 2._o f._n 3._o a_o christian_a man_n be_v the_o most_o free_a lord_n of_o all_o subject_a to_o none_o de_fw-fr votis_fw-la ibib_fw-la fol._n 270._o christ_n have_v give_v i_o so_o much_o liberty_n that_o i_o man_n subject_n to_o none_o but_o to_o himself_o only_o christ_n be_v my_o immediate_a lord_n i_o know_v no_o other_o any_o more_o in_o 1._o petri_n c._n 2._o to_o 5._o f._n 462._o christ_n have_v commit_v the_o bad_a to_o profane_v power_n for_o to_o govern_v they_o as_o they_o ought_v to_o be_v govern_v the_o good_a that_o be_v those_o who_o believe_v he_o have_v reserve_v to_o himself_o who_o he_o govern_v by_o his_o word_n only_o conference_n of_o the_o foresay_v word_n scripture_n express_o say_v that_o king_n reign_n by_o god_n that_o we_o must_v obey_v the_o high_a power_n that_o we_o must_v be_v subiest_n to_o prince_n and_o prelate_n and_o to_o ruler_n of_o the_o church_n the_o same_o say_v catholics_n protestant_n express_o say_v that_o there_o be_v no_o superiority_n among_o christian_n that_o a_o christian_n be_v subject_a to_o none_o under_o none_o but_o christ_n that_o christ_n be_v his_o immediate_a lord_n and_o that_o he_o know_v no_o other_o art_fw-la ii_o whether_o man_n have_v avthoritie_n to_o make_v law_n scripture_n express_o affirmeth._n act._n 15._o v._n 29._o it_o have_v seem_v good_a to_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o to_o law_n the_o apostle_n make_v law_n we_o to_o lay_v no_o further_o bird_n upon_o you_o then_o these_o necessary_a thing_n that_o you_o abstain_v from_o thing_n immolate_a to_o idol_n and_o blood_n and_o that_o which_o be_v strangle_v ibid._n v._o 41._o paul_n walk_v through_o syria_n and_o cilicia_n confirm_v the_o church_n command_v they_o to_o keep_v the_o precept_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o the_o ancient_n 1._o cor._n 7._o vers_fw-la 12._o for_o to_o the_o rest_n i_o say_v not_o our_o lord_n if_o any_o paul_n also_o s._n paul_n brother_n have_v a_o wife_n a_o infidel_n and_o she_o consent_v to_o dwell_v with_o he_o let_v he_o not_o put_v she_o away_o catholik_o express_o affirm_v d._n stapleton_n in_o act._n 15._o v._n 28._o the_o church_n can_v impose_v temporal_a law_n as_o precept_n for_o some_o good_a end_n to_o wit_n to_o keep_v peace_n in_o the_o church_n which_o bind_v the_o faithful_a in_o conscience_n and_o before_o god_n to_o obey_v they_o protestant_n express_o deny_v confession_n of_o basle_n art_n 10._o none_o can_v forbid_v that_o which_o law_n none_o can_v forbid_v that_o which_o christ_n forbid_v not_o god_n alone_o can_v make_v law_n christ_n have_v not_o forbid_v lutherl_n count_v r._n angliae_fw-la to_o 2._o f._n 346._o the_o power_n of_o make_v law_n belong_v to_o god_n alone_o de_fw-fr captiu_fw-la babyl_n fol._n 77._o nether_a man_n nor_o angel_n can_v by_o any_o right_n impose_v any_o law_n upon_o christian_n but_o as_o they_o will_v themselves_o caluin_n 4._o instit_fw-la c._n 10._o §_o 7._o we_o hear_v that_o god_n challenge_v lawgiver_n god_n only_o a_o lawgiver_n this_o as_o proper_a to_o himself_o alone_o to_o govern_v we_o by_o the_o command_n of_o his_o word_n and_o by_o law_n ibid._n §_o 8._o if_o god_n be_v the_o only_a lawgiver_n man_n must_v not_o take_v this_o authority_n upon_o they_o in_o jacobi_fw-la 4._o v._n 12._o they_o draw_v to_o themselves_o all_o the_o majesty_n of_o god_n who_o challenge_v authority_n to_o make_v law_n the_o conference_n scripture_n express_o say_v that_o the_o apostle_n have_v authority_n to_o impose_v necessary_a burden_n and_o to_o command_v that_o which_o christ_n have_v not_o command_v to_o command_v their_o precept_n to_o be_v keep_v and_o to_o make_v law_n for_o marry_a person_n the_o same_o say_v catholics_n protestant_n express_o say_v that_o none_o can_v forbid_v that_o which_o christ_n have_v not_o forbid_v that_o the_o power_n of_o make_v law_n be_v proper_a to_o god_n alone_o that_o no_o law_n can_v be_v impose_v upon_o christian_n but_o as_o they_o will_v themselves_o art_fw-la iii_o whether_o man_n law_n can_n bind_v the_o conscience_n scripture_n express_o affirmeth._n rom._n 13._o v._n 2._o who_o resist_v the_o power_n resist_v the_o ordinance_n conscience_n man_n law_n can_v bind_v conscience_n of_o god_n and_o they_o that_o resist_v purchase_v to_o themselves_o damnation_n v._o 5._o therefore_o be_v subject_a of_o necessity_n not_o only_o for_o wrath_n but_o also_o for_o conscience_n sake_n catholik_o express_o affirm_v d._n stapleton_n in_o rom._n 13._o v._n 1._o the_o breach_n of_o humane_a law_n offend_v also_o god_n the_o very_a conscience_n of_o the_o faithful_a be_v bind_v with_o civil_a law_n protestant_n express_o deny_v whitaker_n contr._n 4._o quaest_n 7._o c._n 1._o we_o say_v that_o the_o law_n of_o conscience_n prince_n law_n bound_v not_o conscience_n prince_n bind_v not_o the_o conscience_n for_o this_o be_v proper_a to_o god_n lib._n 8._o cont_n dur._n sect_n 103_o who_o impose_v law_n upon_o the_o conscience_n challenge_v power_n of_o save_v and_o destroy_v and_o rob_v god_n of_o his_o right_n the_o law_n of_o magistrate_n have_v no_o power_n over_o the_o conscience_n perkins_n in_o anatomia_fw-la conscientiae_fw-la tom_n 1._o col_fw-fr 1215._o we_o law_n conscience_n subject_n to_o no_o man_n law_n acknowledge_v no_o subjection_n at_o all_o of_o the_o conscience_n to_o man_n law_n in_o galat._n 5._o tom_n 2._o col_fw-fr 258._o the_o magistrate_n law_n make_v a_o thing_n necessary_a external_o nevertheless_o the_o thing_n in_o itself_o be_v not_o make_v necessary_a but_o remain_v indifferent_a and_o you_o may_v use_v it_o or_o not_o if_o you_o avoid_v contempt_n or_o scandal_n luther_n in_o 1._o petri_n c._n 2._o tom_n 5._o f._n 464._o the_o magistrate_n can_v bind_v the_o conscience_n de_fw-fr seruo_fw-la arbit_fw-la to_o 2._o fol._n 431._o
if_o we_o prove_v that_o god_n do_v now_o cleanse_v we_o from_o all_o iniquity_n because_o it_o be_v say_v 1._o joan._n 1._o v._n 19_o he_o be_v faithful_a and_o just_a to_o forgive_v we_o our_o sin_n and_o cleanse_v we_o from_o all_o iniquity_n caluin_n ib._n answer_v if_o any_o object_n that_o while_o we_o live_v in_o this_o life_n we_o be_v never_o cleanse_v from_o all_o injustice_n for_o so_o much_o as_o belong_v to_o reformation_n that_o be_v true_a indeed_o but_o john_n teach_v not_o what_o god_n do_v now_o perfect_a in_o us._n if_o we_o prove_v that_o in_o this_o life_n some_o be_v make_v just_a by_o the_o merit_n of_o christ_n as_o by_o adam_n demerit_n they_o be_v make_v injust_a by_o these_o word_n rom._n 5._o v._n 19_o as_o by_o the_o disobedience_n of_o one_o man_n many_o be_v make_v sinner_n so_o also_o by_o the_o obedience_n of_o one_o many_o shall_v be_v make_v just_a pareus_n l._n 2._o de_fw-la justificat_fw-la cap._n 3._o answer_v in_o this_o life_n we_o be_v make_v just_o imperfect_o in_o the_o next_o we_o shall_v be_v make_v perfect_o just_a hereupon_o perchance_o luther_n say_v disput_n 3._o tom_n 1._o we_o think_v that_o a_o man_n to_o be_v justify_v be_v not_o to_o be_v yet_o just_a but_o to_o be_v in_o the_o way_n and_o course_n to_o justice_n if_o we_o prove_v that_o faith_n without_o work_n be_v always_o dead_a because_o it_o be_v say_v james_n 2._o vers_n ult._n faith_n without_o work_n be_v dead_a schlusselburg_n to_o 8._o catal._n p._n 526._o answer_v the_o say_n of_o james_n touch_v faith_n dead_a without_o work_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v of_o ehe_fw-ge time_n after_o justification_n so_o that_o he_o will_v not_o have_v faith_n to_o be_v dead_a without_o good_a work_n while_o it_o justifi_v if_o we_o prove_v that_o god_n always_o will_v all_o man_n to_o be_v save_v by_o those_o word_n 1._o tim._n 2._o who_o will_v all_o man_n to_o be_v save_v perkins_n in_o case_n of_o conscience_n cap._n 7._o sect_n 3._o answer_v god_n will_v all_o man_n to_o be_v save_v understand_v now_o in_o this_o last_o age_n of_o the_o world_n if_o we_o prove_v that_o saint_n in_o heaven_n ask_v mercy_n for_o the_o faithful_a because_o they_o ask_v revenge_n upon_o their_o persecutor_n by_o those_o word_n apocal._n 6._o vers_fw-la 9_o i_o see_v under_o the_o altar_n the_o soul_n of_o they_o that_o be_v slanie_n for_o the_o word_n of_o god_n etc._n etc._n and_o they_o cry_v with_o a_o loud_a voice_n say_v how_o long_a lord_n holy_a and_o true_a iudg●st_n thou_o not_o and_o reveng_a not_o our_o blood_n on_o they_o that_o dwell_v on_o the_o earth_n confessio_fw-la wittember_n c._n de_fw-fr inuocat_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la understand_v this_o only_a of_o prayer_n make_v while_o the_o saint_n be_v on_o earth_n in_o the_o apocalypse_n the_o soul_n of_o the_o saint_n that_o be_v slay_v do_v cry_v that_o their_o blood_n be_v revenge_v not_o that_o now_o rest_v in_o the_o lord_n they_o be_v desirous_a of_o revenge_n after_o a_o humane_a manner_n but_o because_o the_o lord_n even_o after_o their_o death_n be_v mindful_a of_o the_o prayer_n which_o while_o they_o yet_o live_v on_o earth_n the_o make_v for_o the_o delivery_n of_o themselves_o and_o the_o church_n if_o we_o prove_v that_o in_o this_o life_n we_o fulfil_v the_o law_n do_v the_o will_n of_o god_n and_o obey_v christ_n by_o those_o word_n rom._n 8._o v._n 4_o god_n send_v his_o son_n etc._n etc._n that_o the_o justification_n of_o the_o law_n may_v be_v fullfil_v in_o us._n et_fw-la math._n 6._o thy_o will_v be_v do_v on_o earth_n and_o hebr._n 5._o vers_fw-la 9_o christ_n be_v make_v the_o cause_n of_o salvation_n to_o all_o that_o obey_v he_o scharpius_n the_o justif_a contr._n 12._o answer_v out_o of_o these_o place_n nothing_o follow_v but_o that_o the_o faithful_a fulfil_v the_o law_n but_o it_o follow_v not_o that_o they_o fulfil_v it_o in_o this_o life_n wherefore_o i_o thus_o make_v my_o fourtenth_fw-mi argument_n who_o beside_o the_o foresay_v opposition_n to_o 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resp_n ad_fw-la acta_fw-la montisbel_n p._n 196._o if_o we_o prove_v that_o god_n will_v have_v all_o to_o be_v save_v and_o come_v to_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o truth_n because_o it_o be_v so_o say_v 1._o tim._n 2._o v._n 4._o beza_n lib._n quaest_n &_o respon_n vol._n 1._o theol._n p._n 684._o say_v those_o twoe_o to_o save_v and_o to_o come_v to_o the_o knowledge_n of_o truth_n be_v to_o be_v join_v that_o so_o god_n may_v be_v understand_v to_o will_n that_o they_o be_v save_v who_o he_o will_v have_v to_o come_v to_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o truth_n so_o also_o he_o answer_v in_o respon_n ad_fw-la acta_fw-la montisb_n p._n 194._o and_o there_o p._n 196._o in_o the_o same_o sort_n expound_v that_o ezech._n 18._o i_o will_v not_o the_o death_n of_o a_o sinner_n but_o that_o be_v convert_v if_o we_o prove_v that_o christ_n baptism_n be_v different_a from_o s._n ihons_n because_o actor_n 19_o s._n luke_n tell_v that_o some_o who_o have_v be_v baptize_v with_o s._n ihons_n 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