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A58730 A review of that which Richard Hubberthorn did affirme to the King as the chief principle of the Quakers whereby it doth appear that Hubberthorn did not declare fully the Quakers principle / written in a friendly way to undeceive the Quakers if possible, and to prevent others from falling into their errors. T. S. 1661 (1661) Wing S177; ESTC R25744 8,164 8

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help of Scriptures or Christian Churches or teachers what need the Apostles to have been sent forth into all the world and that with so great effusion of blood to publish that which was known before or might have been known without their help That were to make our Lord needlesly profuse of his servants blood And what need was there that they must stay in Hierusalem till they were endowed with power of working miracles For without doing some miraculous works the people were not bound to believe the Apostles for so our Lord said If I had not done the works amongst them which no other man did they had not sinned but now their sin remaineth John 15.22.24 Moreover St. Paul saith How shall we escape if we neglect the doctrine of so great salvation confirmed by so many miracles signes and wonders Heb. 2.3.4 And therefore doubtless the mysterie of Christian Religion is not instamped in the Law of nature For then it might have been known without such a conflux of miracles to have witnessed it to us How can they believe without a Preacher saith St. Paul Rom. 10.14 that is they cannot The natural man cannot understand the things that be of God The Wise men of the East notwithstanding their great talents of natural wisdome and knowledge must come to Christ the Eunuch must hear Philip Cornelius must send for Peter without which no light was able to inform them in all things needful to Salvation And therefore for any to pretend to know by the light that is in every man and that by it alone without any Scriptures or books churches teachers or tutors to know every thing needful for his salvation doubtless its a great errour and such an one as upon which many others do depend as namely it forceth them off from Christianity yea and to leave off all the ordinances of Christs Church both Sacraments Lords daies yea all daies dedicated by the Church to the service of our Lord the which Quakers now do and indeed to center in very Gentilisme not observing in Christianity any more but what the law of nature teacheth onely I do not say that Christ cannot teach without Scriptures Churches Preachers c. For he who is God blessed for ever can do all things and with him nothing is impossible He can make bread of Stones and Fish of Serpents for his children He could cure Naaman without washing seven times in Jordan and save also people without Scriptures Churches Teachers or Sacraments but for us to trust and that contrary to his revealed divine wisdome directing is a most unpardonable presumption And yet to these streits do the principles of Quakers drive them upon But this is a sad condition that poor deluded souls are in and therefore O my friends stand pause and consider your danger Scripture saith that Heresie proceeds from worse to worse 2. Tim. 3.13 Heresie is a dart that strikes through the liver whereby the soule like the poore bird hasteth to the Snare knoweth not that it is for her life But her house saith that Text is the way to hell going down to the Chambers of death Prov. 7.23.27 Such deluded Souls forsake the Church the guid of their youth and forget the Covenant of their God Their house inclineth unto death and their pathes unto the dead None that go unto her returne again neither take they hold of the pathes of life Prov. 2. These passages the Ancient Fathers as Vincentius Lyrinensis in his Golden rule saith are principally meant of Hereticks deluding poor souls but your boldness saith the Fathers have erred and James Naylour even to me said that the spirit which searcheth all things even the deep things of God hath revealed unto him and many more that which Teachers and their Churches Parents and Tutours were all Ignorant of though they had the Scriptures said he often talked over This is according to their principle that the Spirit instructed them and that without Scriptures Churches Teachers or Christian Tutours I answer This assertion is so audaciously bold that it cannot be paralleld by any Hereticks But this I pray these men to think upon that their boasting of the Spirit is the very way of the worst of Hereticks and if they can demonstratively make it appeare that their spirit upon which for infallibility they so much boast of is any better then the very worst spirit of all Hereticks that ever was in the world both I and many others will be of their Religion But alas my Friends I know you cannot do this you can do nothing but condemne the Church and Fathers and boast of your particular spirit and so did all Hereticks Consider moreover our Lord did not make promise of sending the Holy Ghost to any particular men which were averse from the Church but to the Church in general for them to decree to bind and loose when they were gathered together He said he would be with them and that to the end of the world and what they did on earth the same he would confirme in heaven Particular men Sons of the Church had his spirit for particular ends profitable for people in their condition namely to hear and obey their guides and superiours Obey those whome God hath set over you saith the Scriptures and submit your selves for they watch for your souls as they that must give account thereof Hebr. 13 17. It is true that in the Apostles daies several members had several gifts but ever by one and the same spirit and that for the good of the Church And in this kinde the spirits of the Prophets were subject to the Prophets that so there might be no Schisme in the Body or Church 1. Cor. 12. To this end though St. Paul were taught his Gospel of God and not of man and had an extraordinary calling from Christ himself yet as he saith he was sent to Jerusalem by revelation to conferr the same Gospel which he had preached with the Elders which were the Apostles before him least sad he I had runne or should runne in vaine Galat. 2.1.2 Behold the Humility of St. Paul But you will say in Elihu's words that Inspiration of the Almighty giveth understanding and great men are not alwaies wise men neither do the aged alwaies understand Judgement Job 32. I answer Jobs Freinds as confident as they were of a right spirit were deceived For God Almighty saith that they had not spoken right as his servant Job had done And therefore said God Take a Sacrifice and go to my servant Job and let him pray for you for him will I accept least I deale with you after your folly Job 42. This is a good sample for Sectaries that without they be reconciled to the Church and the Church pray for them notwithstanding their Confidence in the spirit God will deale with them after their folly ver 8. And therefore my Freinds be wise Good men have been deceived and why may not you Be serious in your thoughts