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A31449 Vindiciae vindiciarum, or, A further manifestation of M.J.C., his contradictions instanced in Vindiciae clavium being a rejoinder to his reply (to some few of those many contradictions) in his last book called, The way of Congregationall churches cleared, part 2 / by D.C. Cawdrey, Daniel, 1588-1664. 1651 (1651) Wing C1641; ESTC R23919 36,878 62

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particular_n and_o so_o say_v m._n hooker_n visible_a church_n do_v nor_o fail_n yet_o you_o go_v on_o to_o say_v those_o church_n that_o be_v found_v upon_o christ_n and_o build_v upon_o that_o rock_n neither_o fail_v nor_o fall_v away_o but_o i_o assume_v those_o church_n that_o be_v found_v upon_o his_o institution_n fall_v away_o and_o fail_v therefore_o they_o be_v not_o build_v upon_o the_o rock_n you_o add_v again_o if_o the_o posterity_n of_o a_o holy_a church_n do_v degenerate_a they_o be_v never_o found_v upon_o christ_n but_o in_o a_o outward_a form_n true_o say_v i_o yet_o they_o as_o well_o as_o their_o predecessor_n be_v build_v upon_o christ_n institution_n therefore_o to_o be_v build_v upon_o divine_a institution_n mere_o be_v not_o the_o same_o as_o to_o be_v build_v on_o a_o rock_n and_o so_o you_o have_v elude_v not_o answer_v the_o argument_n i_o have_v but_o one_o thing_n more_o to_o say_v to_o your_o testimony_n from_o mr._n whit._n junius_n and_o d._n ames_n you_o say_v they_o dispute_v catholic_a visible_a church_n but_o maintain_v the_o catholic_a church_n to_o be_v invisible_a but_o 1._o the_o church_n catholic_a of_o i_o which_o those_o divine_n speak_v against_o papist_n be_v not_o the_o same_o with_o we_o in_o this_o dispute_n they_o intend_v it_o of_o the_o church_n of_o the_o elect_n of_o all_o age_n and_o time_n which_o be_v the_o catholic_a church_n mention_v in_o the_o creed_n as_o the_o object_n of_o our_o faith_n not_o of_o our_o sense_n but_o we_o take_v it_o in_o the_o second_o sense_n deliver_v in_o the_o beginning_n for_o the_o whole_a multitude_n of_o believer_n or_o professor_n of_o the_o gospel_n in_o all_o place_n of_o the_o world_n at_o once_o and_o the_o part_n of_o this_o church_n whether_o particular_a member_n or_o particular_a congregation_n be_v visible_a the_o whole_a or_o which_o be_v all_o one_o the_o catholic_a church_n must_v needs_o be_v visible_a 1._o d._n ames_n med._n lib._n 1._o cap._n 31._o sect_n 7._o cap._n 32._o sect_n 1._o and_o d._n ames_n by_o name_n have_v define_v this_o church_n to_o be_v caetus_fw-la hominum_fw-la vocatorum_fw-la fidelium_fw-la vel_fw-la caetus_fw-la eorum_fw-la qui_fw-la sunt_fw-la in_o christo_fw-la &c_n &c_n of_o this_o same_o church_n which_o can_v be_v only_o the_o particular_a church_n he_o say_v it_o be_v visibilis_fw-la in_o suis_fw-la partibus_fw-la and_o in_o the_o former_a chapter_n sect._n last_o ecclesia_fw-la nunquam_fw-la planè_fw-la desinit_fw-la esse_fw-la visibilis_fw-la the_o church_n catholic_a of_o that_o he_o speak_v never_o whole_o cease_v to_o be_v visible_a 2._o the_o catholic_a church_n which_o they_o dispute_v against_o be_v in_o the_o romish_a sense_n a_o catholic_a roman_a church_n animate_v by_o the_o pope_n as_o a_o head_n and_o by_o catholic_a officer_n actual_o in_o a_o subordination_n as_o a_o political_a body_n but_o this_o we_o deny_v as_o well_o as_o they_o we_o take_v it_o only_o for_o the_o whole_a multitude_n of_o believer_n distinguish_v into_o several_a congregation_n which_o all_o make_v up_o one_o body_n whereof_o christ_n alone_o be_v the_o head_n government_n survey_v part_n 1._o pag._n 15_o 16._o o●_n which_o christ_n be_v a_o head_n by_o political_a government_n we_o shall_v take_v it_o in_o m._n hooker_n word_n the_o church_n be_v the_o visible_a kingdom_n of_o christ_n in_o which_o he_o reign_v by_o the_o sceptre_n of_o his_o word_n and_o ordinance_n and_o execution_n of_o discipline_n which_o visible_a kingdom_n of_o christ_n be_v the_o whole_a church_n or_o which_o be_v all_o one_o the_o catholic_a church_n visible_a in_o her_o member_n and_o now_o i_o come_v to_o my_o second_o reason_n or_o as_o you_o call_v it_o obj._n 2_o objection_n the_o kingdom_n of_o glory_n one_o part_n of_o the_o meaning_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n mat._n 16.19_o be_v not_o vvn_n to_o a_o particular_a congregation_n but_o to_o the_o general_a visible_a church_n on_o earth_n you_o answer_v 1._o 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