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other_o part_n of_o the_o church_n triumphant_a in_o heaven_n 1._o timoth._n 6.16_o soli_fw-la deo_fw-la immortali_fw-la patri_fw-la filio_fw-la cum_fw-la spiritu_fw-la sancto_fw-la sit_fw-la honour_n &_o imperium_fw-la sempiternum_fw-la the_o second_o book_n or_o centurie_n contain_v a_o other_o large_a hundred_v of_o popish_a error_n and_o many_o of_o they_o foul_a heresy_n divide_v into_o six_o several_a controversy_n concern_v the_o estate_n of_o the_o church_n triumphant_a in_o heaven_n and_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o church_n militant_a upon_o earth_n imprint_v at_o london_n by_o thomas_n orwin_n for_o thomas_n man._n 1592._o illustrissimo_fw-la et_fw-la inclytissimo_fw-la domino_fw-la comiti_fw-la essexio_fw-la non_fw-la tam_fw-la generis_fw-la claritate_fw-la quam_fw-la virtute_fw-la sva_fw-la nobili_fw-la de_fw-la re_fw-la literaria_fw-la studiosisque_fw-la omnibus_fw-la semper_fw-la optimè_fw-la merito_fw-la dominoque_fw-la mihi_fw-la multis_fw-la nominibus_fw-la colendissimo_fw-la scite_fw-la illud_fw-la nobilissime_fw-it comes_n ab_fw-la epicharmo_n olim_fw-la dictum_fw-la perhibetur_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d qua_fw-la sententia_fw-la monet_fw-la neruos_fw-la atque_fw-la artus_fw-la esse_fw-la sapientiae_fw-la non_fw-la temere_fw-la credere_fw-la idque_fw-la pulchrè_fw-la depingi_fw-la solet_fw-la oculatae_fw-la manus_fw-la effigy_n ut_fw-la ne_fw-la vel_fw-la manu_fw-la contrectare_fw-la vel_fw-la pugillo_fw-la premere_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la mentis_fw-la consensu_fw-la &_o iudicio_fw-la approbare_fw-la audeamus_fw-la quod_fw-la non_fw-la prius_fw-la penitus_fw-la exploratum_fw-la habuerimus_fw-la hoc_fw-la sequi_fw-la consilium_fw-la si_fw-la nostrate_v voluissent_fw-la papicolas_fw-la volo_fw-la et_fw-la pontificiae_fw-la haereseâ—s_fw-la sectatores_fw-la anglos_n si_fw-la singula_fw-la ad_fw-la trutinam_fw-la expendissent_fw-la prius_fw-la ad_fw-la quae_fw-la postea_fw-la admoverunt_fw-la manus_fw-la non_fw-la tam_fw-la temere_fw-la &_o imprudenter_fw-la callidis_fw-la doctoribus_fw-la aurem_fw-la praebuissent_fw-la nec_fw-la tam_fw-la facile_fw-la &_o cito_fw-la a_o sana_fw-la doctrina_fw-la descivissent_fw-la multi_fw-la enim_fw-la apud_fw-la nos_fw-la sunt_fw-la imperiti_fw-la homunciones_fw-la &_o indoctae_fw-la mulierculae_fw-la quanquam_fw-la &_o doctos_fw-la etiam_fw-la aliquos_fw-la et_fw-la satis_fw-la cordatos_fw-la viros_fw-la ex_fw-la isto_fw-la genere_fw-la agnoverim_n qui_fw-la nec_fw-la scientia_fw-la armati_fw-la nec_fw-la animi_fw-la proposito_fw-la stabiles_fw-la nescientes_fw-la lethale_fw-mi non_fw-la minutim_fw-la &_o guttatim_fw-la sorbillarunt_fw-la sed_fw-la plenò_fw-la gutture_v hauserunt_fw-la venenum_fw-la dum_fw-la nihil_fw-la probantes_fw-la vel_fw-la examinantes_fw-la se_fw-la papisticae_fw-la superstitionis_fw-la astutijs_fw-la illaqueari_fw-la passi_fw-la sunt_fw-la haec_fw-la dum_fw-la meeum_fw-la seriò_fw-la cogito_fw-la &_o altiùs_fw-la tanquam_fw-la ex_fw-la animi_fw-la spècula_fw-la prospiciens_fw-la contueor_fw-la non_fw-la ex_fw-la alijs_fw-la initijs_fw-la quam_fw-la temeritatis_fw-la &_o ignorantiae_fw-la hoc_fw-la tam_fw-la magnum_fw-la malum_fw-la enatum_fw-la &_o exortum_fw-la video_fw-la jgnorantiae_fw-la est_fw-la quòd_fw-la veritate_fw-la spreta_fw-la &_o neglecta_fw-la errores_fw-la sponte_fw-la &_o liberè_fw-la imbiberunt_fw-la &_o amplexati_fw-la sunt_fw-la temeritatis_fw-la verò_fw-la quòd_fw-la se_fw-la nullo_fw-la delectu_fw-la habito_fw-la seditiosis_fw-la &_o impijs_fw-la magistris_fw-la in_o disciplinam_fw-la tradere_fw-la voluerunt_fw-la qui_fw-fr non_fw-fr epicharmi_n philosophi_fw-la humanum_fw-la sed_fw-la pauli_n apostoli_fw-la divinum_fw-la consilium_fw-la respuunt_fw-la 5.21_o qui_fw-la sic_fw-la monet_fw-la omnia_fw-la probate_a &_o quod_fw-la bonum_fw-la est_fw-la tenete_fw-la contra_fw-la istos_fw-la etiam_fw-la satis_fw-la nos_fw-la cautos_fw-la dedit_fw-la dominus_fw-la christus_fw-la 7.15_o sic_fw-la praemonens_fw-la cavete_fw-la a_o prophetis_fw-la mendacibus_fw-la qui_fw-la veniunt_fw-la ad_fw-la vos_fw-la in_o vestimentis_fw-la ovium_fw-la sed_fw-la intrinsecus_fw-la sunt_fw-la lupi_fw-la rapaces_fw-la cum_fw-la igitur_fw-la multos_fw-la quorundam_fw-la insidijs_fw-la deceptos_fw-la in_o fraudem_fw-la illici_fw-la &_o in_o errores_fw-la toto_fw-la impetu_fw-la praecipitari_fw-la cernerem_fw-la idque_fw-la non_fw-la alij_fw-la principio_fw-la quam_fw-la ipsorum_fw-la ignorantiae_fw-la tribuendum_fw-la esse_fw-la operae_fw-la precium_fw-la facturum_fw-la duxi_fw-la si_fw-la quis_fw-la papisticae_fw-la superstitionis_fw-la capita_fw-la in_o synopsin_n quandam_fw-la conijcere_fw-la studeret_fw-la et_fw-la passim_fw-la verae_fw-la fidei_fw-la ex_fw-la scripture_n adhibens_fw-la antidotum_fw-la universam_fw-la doctrinam_fw-la pontificiam_fw-la uno_fw-la intuitu_fw-la conspiciendam_fw-la proponeret_fw-la hoc_fw-la opus_fw-la tam_fw-la necessarium_fw-la cum_fw-la diu_fw-la expectassem_fw-la dum_fw-la aggrederentur_fw-la alij_fw-la cum_fw-la neminem_fw-la huc_fw-la animum_fw-la applicasse_fw-la aut_fw-la id_fw-la in_o animo_fw-la habere_fw-la perspexeram_fw-la ego_fw-la tandem_fw-la prodij_fw-la è_fw-la multis_fw-la millibus_fw-la ad_fw-la hoc_fw-la onus_fw-la sustinendum_fw-la minimè_fw-la omnium_fw-la idoneus_fw-la qui_fw-la i_o operam_fw-la meam_fw-la non_fw-la perditurum_fw-la sed_fw-la aliquid_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la commodi_fw-la allaturam_fw-la mihi_fw-la persuaseram_fw-la si_fw-la in_o isto_fw-la opere_fw-la desudaren_a ut_fw-la haberent_fw-la nostrate_v quo_fw-la adversus_fw-la haeresin_fw-la pontificiam_fw-la instructiores_fw-la esse_fw-la possint_fw-la numerun_v si_fw-la quis_fw-la quaerat_fw-la haereseâ—n_fw-la quas_fw-la romana_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la orbi_fw-la nostro_fw-la propinavit_fw-la mensuram_fw-la omnem_fw-la &_o modum_fw-la superant_fw-la &_o ad_fw-la immensam_fw-la molem_fw-la excrescunt_fw-la trecentos_fw-la ego_fw-la &_o plures_fw-la hoc_fw-la opere_fw-la percurri_fw-la errores_fw-la pontificios_fw-la nec_fw-la omnes_fw-la tamen_fw-la complexus_fw-la sum_fw-la 2._o varro_z scriptor_n ille_fw-la copiosus_fw-la &_o vir_fw-la multae_fw-la lectionis_fw-la ut_fw-la scribit_fw-la august_n philosophorum_fw-la sectas_fw-la usque_fw-la ad_fw-la ducentas_fw-la octoginta_fw-la octo_fw-la numeravit_fw-la et_fw-la recensuit_fw-la sed_fw-la a_o papistis_fw-la huius_fw-la seculi_fw-la errorum_fw-la varietate_fw-la &_o multitudine_fw-la veteres_fw-la illi_fw-la superantur_fw-la scripsit_fw-la non_fw-la multis_fw-la abhinc_fw-la annis_fw-la libellum_fw-la tilemannus_fw-la quidam_fw-la heshusius_fw-la qui_fw-la sic_fw-la inscribitur_fw-la sexcenti_fw-la errores_fw-la pontificij_fw-la geminavit_fw-la ille_fw-la &_o duplum_fw-la effecit_fw-la numerum_fw-la hunc_fw-la quem_fw-la nos_fw-la secuti_fw-la sumus_fw-la trecentos_fw-la nos_fw-la malumus_fw-la quam_fw-la sexcento_n ponere_fw-la non_fw-la quòd_fw-la non_fw-la putem_fw-la tot_fw-la vitijs_fw-la &_o corruptelis_fw-la superstitionem_fw-la pontificiam_fw-la scatere_fw-la vel_fw-la non_fw-la posse_fw-la tot_fw-la colligi_fw-la illius_fw-la synagogae_fw-la errores_fw-la sed_fw-la id_fw-la feci_fw-la iam_fw-la partim_fw-la quia_fw-la praecipua_fw-la capita_fw-la maximè_fw-la proseâ—ui_fw-la
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but_o two_o baptism_n and_o the_o supper_n of_o the_o lord_n for_o paul_n say_v i_o have_v receive_v of_o the_o lord_n that_o which_o i_o deliver_v unto_o you_o 1._o cor._n 11.23_o if_o the_o apostle_n will_v not_o neither_o may_v deliver_v any_o sacrament_n but_o those_o which_o be_v institute_v of_o christ_n what_o great_a presumption_n be_v it_o in_o any_o other_o to_o do_v it_o second_o we_o must_v not_o think_v that_o remission_n of_o sin_n be_v necessary_o tie_v to_o the_o sacrament_n as_o though_o there_o can_v be_v no_o remission_n without_o they_o for_o the_o grace_n of_o remission_n may_v be_v effectual_a in_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n by_o the_o preach_n of_o the_o word_n without_o a_o sacrament_n joh._n 20._o sect_n 4._o ful._n for_o the_o word_n may_v be_v preach_v without_o a_o sacrament_n but_o the_o sacrament_n can_v be_v minister_v without_o the_o word_n for_o that_o be_v as_o though_o a_o man_n shall_v deliver_v a_o seal_n without_o a_o writing_n neither_o be_v it_o 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faith_n be_v requisite_a as_o saint_n paul_n will_v all_o man_n to_o examine_v themselves_o 1._o corinth_n 11.28_o which_o be_v as_o he_o himself_o interprete_v it_o to_o prove_v whether_o they_o be_v in_o the_o faith_n 2._o corinth_n 13.5_o these_o condition_n then_o be_v observe_v we_o deny_v not_o but_o that_o there_o be_v a_o exercise_n of_o the_o key_n even_o in_o the_o sacrament_n 2_o but_o chief_o and_o principal_o be_v this_o power_n dispense_v by_o the_o preach_n of_o the_o word_n as_o saint_n paul_n say_v we_o be_v the_o savour_n of_o death_n unto_o death_n unto_o some_o there_o be_v the_o bind_n and_o to_o other_o the_o savour_n of_o life_n unto_o life_n there_o be_v the_o lose_n 1._o corinth_n 2.16_o so_o our_o saviour_n christ_n say_v he_o that_o refuse_v i_o the_o word_n that_o i_o have_v speak_v shall_v judge_v he_o in_o the_o last_o day_n john_n 12.48_o here_o be_v the_o power_n of_o bind_v again_o the_o truth_n shall_v make_v you_o free_a john_n 8.32_o here_o be_v the_o power_n of_o lose_v who_o therefore_o doubt_v this_o that_o the_o preach_n of_o the_o word_n be_v the_o most_o proper_a and_o principal_a way_n and_o mean_v for_o the_o exercise_v of_o this_o ecclesiastical_a power_n for_o see_v faith_n be_v the_o key_n of_o heaven_n thereby_o we_o have_v free_a access_n unto_o the_o throne_n of_o grace_n rom._n 5.2_o and_o faith_n come_v by_o hear_v rom._n 10.17_o and_o hear_v by_o the_o word_n it_o remain_v that_o by_o the_o word_n the_o key_n be_v dispense_v augustine_n also_o subscribe_v unto_o this_o for_o speak_v of_o reformation_n of_o life_n and_o repentance_n with_o remission_n of_o former_a sin_n thus_o he_o say_v quid_fw-la empturus_fw-la es_fw-la ut_fw-la facias_fw-la quae_fw-la emplastra_fw-la quaesiturus_fw-la ecce_fw-la cùmloquor_fw-la muta_n cor_fw-la &_o factum_fw-la est_fw-la quod_fw-la tam_fw-la
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power_n as_o christ_n have_v and_o he_o that_o doubt_v of_o their_o right_n herein_o may_v as_o well_o doubt_v whether_o christ_n have_v authority_n as_o man_n to_o remit_v sin_n rhemist_n annot_v john_n 20._o sect_n 3._o and_o again_o they_o call_v it_o a_o express_a power_n and_o commission_n yea_o a_o wonderful_a power_n which_o be_v give_v unto_o priest_n to_o remit_v sin_n and_o therefore_o it_o follow_v necessary_o that_o man_n shall_v submit_v themselves_o to_o their_o judgement_n for_o release_v of_o their_o sin_n annot._n john_n 20._o sect_n 5._o 1_o they_o reason_n thus_o out_o of_o our_o saviour_n own_o word_n john_n 20.21_o as_o my_o father_n have_v send_v i_o so_o i_o send_v you_o he_o show_v his_o father_n commission_n give_v to_o himself_o and_o then_o in_o plain_a term_n most_o ample_o impart_v the_o same_o to_o his_o apostle_n but_o christ_n have_v full_a right_n to_o remit_v sin_n ergo_fw-la also_o the_o apostle_n and_o their_o successor_n for_o they_o have_v the_o 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the_o will_n of_o god_n not_o proper_o in_o their_o own_o power_n to_o release_v or_o absolve_v sinner_n 2_o he_o breathe_v upon_o they_o and_o give_v they_o the_o holy_a ghost_n vers_n 22._o therefore_o he_o that_o deni_v the_o priest_n authority_n to_o forgive_v sin_n he_o must_v deny_v the_o holy_a ghost_n to_o be_v god_n and_o not_o to_o have_v power_n to_o remit_v sin_n rhem._n ibid._n sect_n 4._o ans._n what_o a_o blasphemous_a consequence_n be_v this_o the_o holy_a ghost_n have_v absolute_a power_n to_o forgive_v sin_n ergo_fw-la the_o apostle_n also_o and_o all_o other_o priest_n have_v the_o same_o power_n first_o by_o this_o mean_v they_o make_v no_o difference_n between_o the_o fullness_n of_o power_n in_o our_o saviour_n christ_n and_o the_o communication_n of_o that_o power_n to_o other_o minister_n of_o christ_n it_o be_v say_v that_o the_o
division_n among_o christian_n as_o the_o monk_n &_o friar_n have_v do_v one_o sort_n persecute_v another_o for_o their_o opinion_n even_o to_o death_n fulk_n annot_v 1._o thess._n 1._o sect_n 2._o fox_n pag._n 798._o the_o protestant_n contrariwise_o we_o affirm_v that_o it_o be_v a_o great_a derogation_n to_o christ_n when_o the_o people_n shall_v say_v i_o follow_v the_o religion_n of_o augustine_n the_o religion_n of_o francis_n a_o other_o say_v i_o hold_v of_o dominick_n another_o i_o hold_v of_o jesus_n as_o the_o jesuite_n do_v fulk_n philip._n 3._o vers_fw-la 17._o 1_o saint_n paul_n reprove_v the_o corinthian_n because_o they_o make_v the_o like_a sect_n among_o themselves_o one_o say_v i_o be_o paul_n another_o i_o be_o apollo_n and_o conclude_v that_o therefore_o they_o be_v carnal_a 1._o cor._n 3.4_o and_o further_o he_o say_v they_o shall_v not_o rejoice_v in_o man_n for_o all_o thing_n be_v they_o whether_o paul_n apollo_n or_o cephas_n ver_fw-la 21.22_o that_o be_v 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all_o we_o have_v caluin_n institut_fw-la 4._o cap._n 13._o sect_n 13._o 2_o act._n 2.44_o they_o have_v all_o thing_n common_a this_o be_v not_o a_o rule_n or_o precept_n to_o all_o christian_a man_n to_o live_v in_o common_a but_o a_o life_n of_o perfection_n and_o counsel_n follow_v of_o the_o religious_a rhemist_n answer_v this_o live_n in_o common_a among_o the_o brethren_n in_o the_o apostle_n time_n be_v the_o same_o that_o ought_v always_o to_o be_v among_o all_o christian_n that_o no_o man_n account_v that_o to_o be_v his_o own_o which_o the_o necessity_n of_o his_o brother_n require_v to_o be_v bestow_v upon_o he_o this_o the_o rule_n of_o charity_n require_v which_o be_v one_o of_o the_o great_a commandment_n fulk_n in_o hunc_fw-la locum_fw-la 3_o 1._o corinth_n 7.25_o concern_v virgin_n i_o have_v no_o commandment_n of_o the_o lord_n but_o i_o give_v my_o advice_n a_o precept_n therefore_o be_v one_o thing_n a_o counsel_n of_o perfection_n another_o bellarm._n cap._n 9_o 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violent_a with_o torment_n the_o second_o be_v by_o fraudulent_a heretic_n the_o three_o shall_v be_v under_o antichrist_n the_o worst_a of_o all_o it_o shall_v be_v both_o violent_a and_o fraudulent_a this_o persecution_n under_o the_o pope_n of_o rome_n the_o church_n of_o god_n endure_v a_o great_a while_n who_o both_o deal_v fraudulent_o in_o poison_v they_o with_o corrupt_a doctrine_n and_o cruel_o also_o in_o punish_v with_o sword_n and_o fire_n the_o innocent_a member_n of_o christ_n wherefore_o seeing_z it_o be_v a_o plain_a case_n that_o antichrist_n be_v and_o have_v be_v many_o a_o day_n reveal_v to_o the_o world_n and_o that_o the_o church_n of_o god_n begin_v to_o have_v some_o respite_n and_o liberty_n from_o his_o thraldom_n we_o doubt_v not_o but_o that_o the_o great_a storm_n of_o persecution_n be_v overpast_v if_o by_o our_o sin_n we_o bring_v not_o back_o again_o the_o thick_a and_o misty_a cloud_n upon_o us._n the_o second_o part_n of_o this_o controversy_n about_o the_o manner_n of_o christ_n come_v to_o judgement_n the_o papist_n error_n 109_o 1._o the_o faithful_a shall_v judge_v and_o give_v sentence_n with_o christ_n say_v they_o at_o the_o latter_a day_n rhemist_n 1._o corinth_n 6._o vers_fw-la 2._o they_o shall_v sit_v in_o throne_n with_o christ_n matth._n 19_o vers_fw-la 28._o ergo_fw-la judge_v together_o with_o he_o rhemist_n ibid._n the_o protestant_n ans._n 1._o true_a it_o be_v that_o the_o saint_n shall_v judge_v the_o world_n 1._o corinth_n 6.2_o but_o only_o christ_n shall_v give_v sentence_n matth._n 25._o and_o be_v proper_o and_o only_o the_o judge_n of_o the_o world_n for_o the_o father_n have_v commit_v all_o judgement_n to_o the_o son_n john_n 5.22_o if_o all_o then_o there_o be_v no_o part_n leave_v for_o any_o other_o the_o apostle_n therefore_o and_o saint_n be_v say_v to_o judge_v as_o christ_n say_v of_o his_o word_n that_o he_o will_v not_o judge_v the_o unbeliever_n but_o his_o word_n shall_v judge_v they_o in_o the_o last_o day_n john_n 12.48_o that_o be_v shall_v be_v a_o witness_n against_o they_o accuse_v they_o lay_v in_o matter_n of_o judgement_n against_o they_o so_o the_o word_n preach_v by_o the_o saint_n upon_o earth_n and_o practise_v in_o their_o life_n shall_v be_v the_o condemnation_n of_o the_o world_n and_o not_o only_o so_o but_o they_o shall_v be_v advance_v to_o great_a honour_n they_o shall_v sit_v in_o throne_n and_o seat_n that_o be_v they_o shall_v not_o stand_v among_o the_o wicked_a to_o receive_v sentence_n but_o shall_v meet_v christ_n in_o the_o air_n and_o be_v catch_v up_o in_o the_o cloud_n 1._o thess._n 4.17_o yea_o they_o shall_v in_o the_o sight_n and_o behold_v of_o the_o ungodly_a enter_v into_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n luk._n 13.28_o but_o in_o any_o other_o sense_n they_o can_v be_v judge_n of_o the_o world_n for_o shall_v we_o think_v that_o christ_n in_o that_o day_n shall_v need_v under_o officer_n and_o judge_n as_o moses_n do_v exod._n â—8_o augustine_n say_v sancti_fw-la sedebunt_fw-la cum_fw-la domino_fw-la attendere_fw-la 121_o qui_fw-la fecerunt_fw-la misericordiaâ—â—_n the_o saint_n shall_v â—it_n with_o the_o lord_n not_o to_o judge_v but_o to_o mark_v and_o attend_v and_o to_o witness_v who_o have_v follow_v the_o work_n of_o mercy_n the_o papist_n 2_o they_o be_v so_o bold_a as_o to_o appoint_v the_o place_n where_o christ_n shall_v appear_v namely_o error_n 110_o in_o the_o east_n for_o his_o come_n shall_v be_v as_o the_o lightning_n that_o shine_v from_o east_n to_o west_n matth._n 24.27_o bellarm._n de_fw-fr cultu_fw-la sanctor_n lib._n 3._o cap._n 3._o the_o protestant_n ans._n first_o by_o that_o similitude_n christ_n only_o show_v the_o suddenness_n of_o his_o come_n therefore_o it_o must_v be_v press_v no_o further_o then_o to_o that_o purpose_n for_o the_o which_o it_o serve_v second_o our_o saviour_n say_v plain_o that_o the_o
the_o prosecute_n whereof_o if_o sometime_o i_o chance_v to_o miss_v i_o say_v with_o augustine_n nunquam_fw-la errari_fw-la tutius_fw-la existimo_fw-la quà m_fw-la cum_fw-la in_o amore_fw-la nimio_fw-la veritatis_fw-la 1._o &_o reiectione_n nimia_fw-la falsitatis_fw-la erratur_fw-la i_o think_v a_o man_n can_v never_o more_o safe_o err_v then_o when_o he_o err_v in_o the_o too_o much_o love_n of_o the_o truth_n and_o the_o reject_v of_o falsehood_n i_o have_v labour_v in_o this_o work_n to_o set_v down_o not_o only_o the_o chief_a and_o principal_a but_o even_o the_o most_o and_o in_o a_o manner_n all_o the_o controversy_n of_o religion_n between_o we_o and_o the_o papist_n maintain_v this_o day_n if_o any_o thing_n be_v miss_v i_o say_v again_o with_o augustine_n tale_n esse_fw-la arbitratus_fw-la sum_fw-la cvi_fw-la mea_fw-la responsio_fw-la necessaria_fw-la non_fw-la fuisset_fw-la sive_fw-la quia_fw-la ad_fw-la rem_fw-la de_fw-la qua_fw-la agitur_fw-la non_fw-la pertinet_fw-la 27_o sive_fw-la quod_fw-la tam_fw-la leave_v esset_fw-la ut_fw-la à _fw-la quolibet_fw-la redargui_fw-la facillimè_fw-la posset_n i_o think_v it_o to_o be_v such_o as_o unto_o the_o which_o my_o answer_n be_v not_o needful_a either_o because_o it_o be_v not_o pertinent_a to_o the_o matter_n in_o hand_n or_o else_o of_o so_o small_a moment_n that_o every_o man_n may_v easy_o answer_v unto_o it_o i_o have_v no_o more_o to_o say_v but_o this_o if_o thou_o find_v thyself_o any_o thing_n profit_v or_o help_v good_a christian_a reader_n by_o these_o simple_a labour_n of_o i_o give_v god_n the_o praise_n and_o i_o will_v praise_v he_o with_o thou_o but_o one_o thing_n let_v i_o pray_v thou_o quisquis_fw-la legis_fw-la nihil_fw-la reprehendas_fw-la august_n nisi_fw-la cum_fw-la totum_fw-la perlegeris_fw-la atque_fw-la ita_fw-la forte_fw-fr minus_fw-la reprehend_v whosoever_o read_v in_o this_o book_n reprehend_v nothing_o before_o thou_o have_v read_v the_o whole_a and_o so_o perhaps_o thou_o will_v be_v more_o spare_v in_o rephend_v the_o lord_n give_v we_o all_o grace_n to_o love_v the_o truth_n that_o they_o which_o know_v it_o may_v live_v thereafter_o and_o they_o which_o as_o yet_o know_v it_o not_o may_v seek_v for_o it_o and_o we_o all_o may_v embrace_v the_o counsel_n of_o the_o wise_a man_n to_o buy_v the_o truth_n but_o in_o no_o wise_a to_o sell_v it_o that_o be_v by_o all_o possible_a mean_n to_o labour_v for_o it_o and_o have_v attain_v thereunto_o for_o no_o earthly_a respect_n for_o fear_n or_o favour_n to_o depart_v from_o it_o the_o lord_n god_n jesus_n christ_n jehovah_n emmanuel_n our_o bless_a saviour_n and_o redeemer_n who_o be_v the_o way_n the_o truth_n and_o the_o life_n give_v we_o of_o his_o heavenly_a grace_n that_o we_o may_v walk_v obedient_o in_o his_o way_n and_o constant_o profess_v his_o truth_n that_o in_o the_o end_n he_o may_v bring_v we_o to_o eternal_a life_n amen_n soli_fw-la deo_fw-la immortali_fw-la patri_fw-la filio_fw-la cum_fw-la spiritu_fw-la sancto_fw-la sit_fw-la omnis_fw-la honour_n &_o gloria_fw-la a_o particular_a index_n or_o table_n of_o all_o the_o controversy_n with_o their_o several_a question_n contain_v in_o this_o treatise_n the_o content_n of_o the_o first_o book_n this_o book_n contain_v seven_o controversy_n the_o first_o controversy_n of_o the_o scripture_n have_v seven_o question_n 1._o quest_n of_o the_o number_n of_o the_o canonical_a book_n of_o scripture_n pag._n 2._o 2._o of_o the_o authentical_a edition_n of_o scripture_n pag._n 12._o 3._o of_o the_o vulgar_a translation_n of_o scripture_n and_o of_o public_a prayer_n in_o the_o vulgar_a tongue_n pag._n 16._o 4._o of_o the_o authority_n of_o scripture_n pag._n 20._o 5._o of_o the_o perspicuity_n and_o plainness_n of_o scripture_n pag._n 23._o 6._o of_o the_o interpretation_n of_o scripture_n 3._o part_n 1._o of_o the_o diverse_a sense_n of_o scripture_n pag._n 26._o 2._o who_o ought_v to_o expound_v scripture_n pag._n 28._o 3._o of_o the_o manner_n of_o expound_v scripture_n pag._n 30._o 7._o of_o the_o perfection_n of_o scripture_n 3._o part_n 1._o whether_o the_o scripture_n be_v absolute_o necessary_a p._n 33._o 2._o whether_o they_o be_v sufficient_a pag._n 35._o 3._o of_o unwritten_a tradition_n beside_o scripture_n pag._n 38._o the_o second_o general_a controversy_n concern_v the_o church_n contain_v five_o question_n 1._o quest_n of_o the_o definition_n of_o the_o church_n 2._o part_n 1._o whether_o wicked_a man_n be_v member_n of_o the_o church_n pag._n 43._o 2._o whether_o the_o church_n be_v invisible_a pag._n 46._o 2._o whether_o the_o church_n may_v err_v 2._o part_n 1._o whether_o the_o catholic_a church_n may_v err_v at_o all_o or_o not_o pag._n 49._o 2._o whether_o the_o visible_a church_n upon_o earth_n may_v fall_v into_o idolatry_n or_o apostasy_n pag._n 52._o 3._o of_o the_o note_n and_o mark_n of_o the_o church_n 1._o antiquity_n pag._n 55_o 2._o universality_n pag._n 57_o 3._o succession_n pag._n 59_o 4._o unity_n pag._n 60_o 5._o miracle_n pag._n 63_o 6._o the_o gift_n of_o prophesy_v pag._n 66_o 4._o of_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n 2._o part_n 1._o what_o authority_n it_o have_v in_o matter_n of_o faith_n and_o whether_o we_o be_v to_o believe_v in_o the_o church_n pag._n 73_o 2._o of_o the_o ceremony_n of_o the_o church_n pag._n 76_o 5._o of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n two_o part_n 1._o whether_o it_o be_v the_o catholic_a church_n pag._n 78_o 2._o whether_o it_o be_v a_o true_a visible_a church_n pag._n 79_o the_o three_o controversy_n of_o general_a counsel_n contain_v eight_o question_n 1._o quest_n whether_o counsel_n be_v absolute_o necessary_a pag._n 81_o 2._o by_o who_o general_a counsel_n ought_v to_o be_v summon_v pag._n 83_o 3._o of_o what_o person_n counsel_n ought_v to_o consist_v pag._n 84_o 4._o who_o ought_v to_o be_v the_o precedent_n in_o counsel_n pag._n 88_o 5._o whether_o counsel_n may_v err_v or_o not_o pag._n 90_o 6._o of_o the_o authority_n of_o counsel_n pag._n 93_o 7._o whether_o they_o be_v above_o the_o pope_n pag._n 95_o 8_o of_o the_o condition_n requisite_a in_o general_a counsel_n pag._n 98_o the_o four_o controversy_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n call_v the_o pope_n ten_o question_n 1._o whether_o the_o regiment_n of_o the_o church_n be_v monarchical_a pag._n 100_o 2._o whether_o peter_n be_v prince_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o assign_v by_o christ_n to_o be_v the_o head_n of_o the_o church_n pag._n 105_o 3._o of_o peter_n be_v at_o rome_n two_o part_n 1._o whether_o peter_n be_v at_o rome_n pag._n 112_o 2._o whether_o peter_n be_v bishop_n of_o rome_n pag._n 116_o 4._o whether_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n be_v the_o true_a successor_n of_o peter_n pag._n 118_o 5_o of_o the_o primacy_n of_o the_o see_v of_o rome_n six_o part_n 1._o whether_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n be_v above_o other_o bishop_n pag._n 120_o 2._o concern_v appeal_v make_v to_o rome_n pag._n 122_o 3._o whether_o the_o pope_n be_v subject_a to_o the_o judgement_n of_o any_o pag._n 124_o 4._o whether_o the_o pope_n may_v be_v depose_v from_o his_o papacy_n pag._n 125_o 5._o the_o original_n of_o the_o primacy_n of_o rome_n p._n 128_o 6._o of_o the_o name_n and_o title_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n pag._n 131_o 6._o quest_n whether_o the_o pope_n of_o rome_n as_o likewise_o whether_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n may_v err_v pag._n 134_o 7._o quest_n of_o the_o spiritual_a jurisdiction_n of_o the_o pope_n two_o part_n 1._o whether_o he_o may_v make_v law_n to_o bind_v the_o conscience_n pag._n 141_o 2._o whether_o all_o bishop_n do_v receive_v their_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n from_o the_o pope_n p._n 145_o 8_o of_o the_o temporal_a jurisdiction_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n two_o part_n 1_o whether_o the_o pope_n be_v above_o king_n and_o emperor_n pag._n 148_o 2_o whether_o he_o be_v a_o temporal_a prince_n pag._n 151_o 9_o of_o the_o pope_n prerogative_n 3._o part_n 1_o of_o his_o power_n dispensative_a pag._n 154_o 2_o of_o his_o power_n exemptive_a ibid._n 3_o of_o his_o power_n transcendent_a ibid._n 10._o of_o antichrist_n 9_o part_n 1_o whether_o antichrist_n shall_v be_v one_o particular_a man_n pag._n 155_o 2_o whether_o antichrist_n be_v yet_o come_v and_o how_o long_o he_o shall_v reign_v pag._n 157_o 3_o concern_v the_o name_n &_o character_n of_o antichrist_n p._n 162_o 4_o of_o the_o generation_n of_o antichrist_n pag._n 168_o 5_o of_o the_o seat_n and_o place_n of_o antichrist_n pag._n 169_o 6_o of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o antichrist_n pag._n 172_o 7_o the_o miracle_n of_o antichrist_n pag._n 176_o 8_o the_o war_n and_o kingdom_n of_o antichrist_n pag._n 179_o 9_o whether_o the_o pope_n be_v antichrist_n pag._n 182_o the_o five_o controversy_n of_o the_o clergy_n six_o question_n 1._o quest_n of_o the_o name_n of_o clerk_n or_o clergy_n man_n pag._n 190_o 2_o of_o the_o election_n of_o bishop_n and_o
from_o his_o whole_a ministry_n but_o the_o power_n before_o speak_v of_o he_o have_v at_o his_o first_o receive_v of_o order_n we_o thus_o show_v it_o whatsoever_o belong_v to_o the_o office_n of_o a_o minister_n set_v over_o a_o flock_n or_o charge_n he_o receive_v the_o power_n thereof_o when_o he_o be_v ordain_v but_o to_o preach_v the_o word_n belong_v to_o the_o office_n of_o such_o for_o preach_v be_v proper_o the_o feed_n of_o the_o people_n but_o see_v the_o absurdity_n of_o the_o papist_n they_o say_v it_o be_v not_o proper_a to_o the_o priesthood_n to_o preach_v but_o only_o to_o have_v power_n to_o sacrifice_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n but_o it_o be_v proper_a to_o the_o bishop_n say_v they_o to_o preach_v we_o answer_v first_o than_o the_o bishop_n be_v proper_o the_o pastor_n of_o every_o flock_n and_o congregation_n in_o his_o diocese_n for_o he_o that_o proper_o feed_v be_v proper_o the_o pastor_n and_o he_o that_o be_v proper_o the_o pastor_n have_v the_o charge_n 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