Selected quad for the lemma: church_n

Word A Word B Word C Word D Occurrence Frequency Band MI MI Band Prominent
church_n doctrine_n rome_n transubstantiation_n 3,441 5 11.1236 5 false
View all documents for the selected quad

Text snippets containing the quad

ID Title Author Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication) STC Words Pages
A43718 Plus ultra, or, Englands reformation, needing to be reformed being an examination of Doctor Heylins History of the reformation of the Church of England, wherein by laying together all that is there said ... / written by way of letter to Dr. Heylin by H.N. ... Hickman, Henry, d. 1692. 1661 (1661) Wing H1913; ESTC R19961 41,680 57

There are 4 snippets containing the selected quad. | View lemmatised text

Prudence and Conscience to reject conformity with her in Worship and Discipline for the same reason which moved us to depart from her doctrinal corruptions binds us to leave her to her self in the superstitions of her worship and discipline The reason why we reject Communion with the Church of Rome is for that the Popes Supremacy Infallibility Transubstantiation Merit of good works Invocation of Saints Purgatorie Latine Service Worshipping of Images half Communion and such like which are the Pillars of the Romish Fabrick cannot be proved and made good out of the Word of God And is not this reason of like force against the Ceremonies of that Church yet in use among us Is there a scriptum est for one of them without which authority the Devil the father of lies pretends not to be believed and adored Though Doctor Pierce in his Synod concio p. 44. be pleased to lay the maintenance of the Ministry Infant Baptism the Sanctification of the Sabbath yea the Personalities of the Godhead in an even levell of authority with the Orders of the Church about Liturgy and Ceremonies as if the one as well as the other must depend on his Traditionis fulcimentum his shore of Tradition and would all otherwise fall to the ground Yet we can by no means give way to this Traditional unscriptural assertion if he will please to produce but one Text of Scripture as fairly concluding for Service-Book and Ceremonies as have been and can be produced in great numbers for those four things we will never put him to the trouble of a hard word more and we shall be as ambitious to advance the reputation of the Ceremonies as well as of the Sabbath You may possibly say these Ceremonies are small matters far from the foundation and if men had not more of humour and will in them then reason or conscience they might down with them well onough We might reply that any action especially conversant about the worship of God not undertaken in faith is sin and faith hath no ground to stand upon but Divine Authority But we refer you to Bishop Iewel in the 11. page of a Sermon of his preached upon this Text Ioshua 6. Now Iericho was shut up c. which is bound up in the same Book of his defence in the end of it Ioshua saith that learned Bishop suffered nothing to stand he burnt all together he left nothing remaining were it never so little In Religion no part is to be called little a hair is but little yet it hath a shadow in the body a little disquiet is often-times cause of death The Ciniphes are but little yet are they reckoned among the great plagues of God Paul saith a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump I speak not this because I think nothing at all may be left to any special purpose For even in Iericho where was made a general destruction God himself commanded that all silver and gold and vessels of brass and iron should be saved and brought into the Lords Treasury Howbeit the things that may be reserved must not be dust or chaff or hay or stubble but gold and silver and iron I mean they may not be things meet to furnish do you see Doctor and maintain superstition And if you will know what he accounts superstition he tells you in his Reply unto Hardings Answer page 310. in the ninth Article of the Canopie Moses saith he was commanded to make the Tabernacle neither durst Moses or his work-men add or diminish to do any thing more or less otherwise then God had appointed him Solomon built the Temple but he followed not therein any part of his own fancy but only that self-same plat and proportion that God had given to his father for so saith David I Chron. 28. Here mark good Christian Reader saith he in these examples God hath bridled our devotion and hath taught us to worship him not in such sort as may seem good in our eyes but only as he hath commanded us Yet Mr. Harding by his cunning would make use of these examples to prove that we may honour God in such sort as we of our selves can best devise This was saith this learned Bishop evermore the very root of all superstition Therefore Mr. Doctor I wish you would learn of that antient worthy Father Chrysostom as Iewel quotes him page 280. in his Defense Discamus Christum ex ipsius voluntate honorare Nam qui honoratur eo maxime honore laetatur quem ipse vult non quem nos optamus And because you see Chrysostom cited give us leave to pass an observation upon one passage you let fall in page 123 part 2. you are there admiring the beauty of the face of the Church of England and this is one part of her comeliness that the Priests as you call them executed not any divine Office but in their Surplice a vestment set apart for Religious Services you say in the Primitive times as may be gathered you say from Chrysostom for the Eastern Churches and from Saint Hierom for the Western But Sir what if this vestment come not from the Primitive times but from the usages of the Heathen Then either Chrysostom and Hierom were mistaken in saying so or you have abused their names in fathering an heathenish vanity on them and the Primitive times Pray you hear the Right Learned Iewel page 281. of his Defense Neither saith he to Harding may ye justly and truly say take heed of lying Doctor you have received none of your orders and usages from the Heathen Nicolaus Leonicenus saith Isidis sacerdotes in Aegypto utebantur lines vestibus semper erant detonso capillo quod etiam per manus traditum ad nostra usque tempora pervenisse videtur siquidem ii qui apud nos divino cultui sacris Altaribus praesident barbam comamque nutrire prohibentur in sacris utuntur lineis amictibus The Priests of the goddess Isis in Aegypt used to wear linnen Surplices rub your eyes Doctor and evermore had their head shaven which thing seemeth to have been derived from them unto our time from hand to hand for they that among us minister Gods service and serve the holy Altars are forbidden to suffer the hair of their head or beard to grow and in their divine Service they use linnen garments And Sir to draw to a conclusion in this argument we say it is unlawful for the Church of England to retain either in Doctrine Worship or Discipline any Conformity to the Church of Rome And because we know this will hardly go down with you by any reasons we can lay before you We shall commend it to you under the credit of your Right Learned Prelate Iewel please you to peruse page 325 326. of his Defence The learned and godly men at whose persons it pleaseth you so rudely to scoff saith Jewel to Harding Mr. Doctor Harding used to scoff at Calvin and Zuinglius and to upbraid Jewel
dish and spoon and suck-bottle provided for her infancy And must it be still with us in matters Ecclesiastical as Spain would have it to be in Civils to be wards to the Church of Rome that we may not espouse a thorough-Reformation for fear of the Popes curse and the Spaniards rage For this Mr. Doctor all along your history was the compass our first Pilots steered by pag. 58. part 1. and in pag. 103. part 2. You say Queen Elizabeth resolved to proceed to a Reformation as the times should serve so also pag. 116. Do you not tell us pag. 12 13. That though the Letters written by Prince Edward to his father may be used as good evidences of his great proficiency with reference to the times in which he lived Yet in our days in which either the wits of men are sooner ripe or the method of teaching more exact and facile they would be found to contain nothing which is more then ordinary And speaking of Doctor Ridley one of the greatest of them pag. 53. you say he was a man of great learning as the times then were And shall our ripe witted times and more exact methods every way bow down to their dull forms and paterns Our heavenly Master the only Arch-bishop of our souls had intrusted them with two talents and they take it so traded faithfully and gained other two talents and shall not we who have five talents committed to us labour to be faithfull in a like proportion We have justly separated from the Church of Rome and have departed from her because she hath departed from the Word of God what she had remaining according to the Scriptures in doctrine or worship the Protestant Churches have retained and embraced not because it was reserved by her but because they saw it founded on the Word of God And Mr. Doctor England hath been numbred among the Protestant Churches and your title page tells of a history of the Reformation of the Church of England a Reformation of what but of the Idolatries Errors Heresies Superstitions and Corruptions it should be so which the pride avarice ambition of many of the blind Ring-leaders in the Romish Clergy had brought into it There are yet such things remaining in the worship and appendents to it in the Church of England for with the doctrine we meddle not the blood of the Martyrs shed in the defence of it alone by the Word of God hath washed away the Romish filth cast into it which are visibly seen and practised in the Romish Churches We have before named them but that you may know where our shoe wrings us and what are our just scruples We tell you again that the English Liturgy is tantum non the Romish Mass. Do not you tell us pag. 76. that King Edward tells his Popish Rebells It is indeed saith he somewhat altered and pag. 66. That the Translation of the Mass which used to be served up in Latine into English was the cause why the Romish party were offended with the Act confirming the Common-prayer book We say also The Ius divinum of Episcopacy i. e. Prelacy Bowing toward the Altar Bowing at the name of Jesus signing with the sign of the Cross holy Vestments Kneeling at the Sacrament these are found most evidently in the tents of Popery How come they then to be found in the Protestant Church of England Hath she received them from Scripture Where is any thing there that gives the least shadow Shew us good Dr. And therefore these are some dreggs of that disease and some reliques of those abominations which England was overwhelmed with in the times of Papacy which through a strong Zeal to these in some State-policy in others and a fear of giving offence to the Romish party at home and abroad in others of our State and Church Physicians have not to this day been purged out but suffered to remain But you will say it may be Mr. Doctor that the Apostles rule Let all things be done decently and in order will warrant all these things tending to decency and good order This is a rule of Natures teaching for the Apostle tells the Corinthians to whom he spake 1 Cor. 11. 13 14. Jugde in your selves Is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered doth not nature it self teach you that if a man have long Hair it is a shame unto him And in chap. 14. of the same Epistle where these words are ver 40. he taxeth some for over-priding themselves in their gifts not aiming at the Edification of the Church ver 5. and saith he ver 23. If the whole Church be come together in some place and all speak with tongues and there come in some that are unlearned or unbelievers will not they say that ye are mad And in ver 29 30. That the Prophets should speak but one at a time and the rest should hold their peace while any one speaketh And in ver 34 35. he gives order That women should not speak in the Church and saith It is a shame that is it is not decent as the speaking of many at once was not orderly for women to speak in the Church And then he concludes with a general rule founded in nature Let all things be done decently and in order ver 40. What is here Mr. Doctor to warrant any such things as are before mentioned which neither nature nor reason direct to but are taken up by the will and pleasure of men and receive their legitimacy not by any connaturalness to the worship of God but by forinsecall Canons and Constitutions Let us put the case thus Mr. Doctor Suppose you or some of the Prebends of Westminster should forsake your Cloyster and go down into the Countrey to some one of your Parsonages and coming among an ignorant and unlearned people should officiate the Liturgy after the Roman order and so turn the Common-Prayer into the Mass again Or suppose you should preach to them in Hebrew Greek or Latine which they understand not or suppose while you are preaching in the Abbey another of your fellow-Prebends puffed up with his knowledge and gifts should at the same time take upon him to stand up and speak together with you Or that women should usurp authority to speak or teach thinking they can speak more to the edification of the people then you or any of your Brethren in these cases this rule of the Apostle is to be prest and observed Let all things be done decently and in order for to remedy such unnaturall disorders and confusions the Apostle left it and your Zuinglian Gospellers are as much as your self for this decency in the church But you will reply Mr. Doctor These things though they be indifferent yet the Church having judged them meet and expedient to be used in the worship of God it becomes every man to observe them though they have not any express warrant in the Word there is nothing
yet by the tenour of the Act you mention it doth appear first That there was nothing contained in the said first book but what was agreeable to the Word of God and the Primitive Church Secondly That such doubts as had been raised in the use and exercise thereof proceeded rather from the curiosity of the Minister and mistakers then any worthy cause they are the very words of the Act as you quote them And therefore Mr. Doctor you might have spared your pains p. 108. in seeking the names of those good and godly men by whom it was altered for bona fide there was no alteration at all if you will believe your own Book You tell us p. 121 122. part 1. of the hand the Convocation had in canvasing the Articles of Religion but you question whether they had any such hand in reviewing the Liturgy and you speak of digesting of such alterations as were considered and resolved on but shew not what they were in the least and possibly you say it might recieve the like authority from the Convocation you cannot say it did receive as the book of Articles had But whether so or not say you it received as much authority and countenance as could be given unto it by an Act of Parliament by which it was imposed you say upon the subject under penalties A worthy foundation for divine service And then page 121. p. 1. Mr. Doctor you begin to triumph as if you had got a firm bottom for the Liturgy the Liturgy you say thus setled and confirmed in Parliament was by the Kings command And p. 123. you say we have seen a reformation made in point of doctrine and setled in the forms of worship the superstitions and corruptions of the Church of Rome entirely abrogated good news if it were true and all things recteifed according to the Word of God How prove you this Sir and the Primitive practice we can see nothing but an Act of Parliament This is all account you give us in your History of the Reformation of the Church in the time of King Edward the sixth saving that p. 125. you speak something of Holy dayes and Fasting dayes which were to be abolished or retained But possibly more may be behind we shall not follow you in your History of the Church in the reign of Queen Mary when the Reformation by your own confession went down the wind and the professors and assertors of it persecuted in all parts of the Nation We shall therefore pass on with you to the times of Queen Elizabeth and see what was more done to the repairing and carrying on this work And when we consider what you say in the 103. page of your History of her reign that she retained such as had been of privy Council to Queen Mary her sister to be of her Council of which according as you have set them down there were thirteen of which one was an Archbishop and adding but seven to them it cannot in reason be imagined that Church reformation should be so far from growing to perfection that it is more likely to decrease and wither And so it proved for the Parliament that was summoned which passed an Act as you say p. 110 111. for recommending and imposing the Book of Common Prayer and administration of the Sacraments took care to revise the book and to make alterations and corrections now Mr. Doctor we have found some alterations in the Liturgy and what are they why say you p. 111. great care was taken for expunging mark Mr. Doctor all such passages in it as might give any scandal or offence to the Popish party in the Letany you say the Pope and his detestable enormity were expunged as giving offence and in the delivery of the Sacrament though by Calvins means as you say some Reformation had been made in the second Liturgy in King Edwards time now it is returned back into the first form and besides you say a whole Rubrick was expunged as not favouring the figment of Transubstantiation and not only so but there was made alteration in the Bread of the Sacrament in Alters and the standing of them in gestures vestments musick and what not by which compliances with Rome your plain dealing is commendable the book was made so passable you say p. 111. amongst the Papists that they repaired to our Parish Churches without scruple And to give us a more full account of the State of Religion in these times you tell us p. 172. part 2. Such a well tempered piety did at that time appear in the Devotions of the Church of England that generally the English Papists still resorted to them moreover you tell us p. 131. that Queen Elizabeth doing all this in the form and fashion of our devotions did so far satisfie the Pope then being that he shewed himself willing to confirm all by his Papal power and that Parpalio was instructed to offer in the name of his Holiness that the English Liturgy should be confirmed And now you triumph again p. 173. part 2. as if the matter were past all doubt telling us Thus we have seen the publick Liturgy confirmed in Parliament with divers penalties on all those who either did reproach it or neglect to use it or willfully withdrew their attendance from it But pray you Sir look back to what you say of this Parliament which confirmed the Liturgy p. 107. there wanted not say you some rough and furious spirits in the house of Commons who eagerly opposed all propositions which seemed to tend unto the prejudice of the Church of Rome of which number none so violent as Story Doctor of the Laws and a great instrument of Bonners butcheries others there were say you and doubtless many others also in the house of Commons who had as great a zeal as he to the Papal interest Thus Mr. Doctor we have travailed over your History and have pickt up and laid together the several pieces of this goodly building as you call it that you and others may have the full prospect of it at once and for the integrity of this action in these quotations we appeal to the great searcher of hearts And now Sir would you have the world satisfied in such a Reformation Can the conscience of a Protestant comfortably repose it self on such a foundation as you have here laid We gladly embrace the reformation of Doctrine contained in the book of Articles because we see blessed be God they have a clear and full authority from the Holy Scriptures but Sir you have dealt very deceitfully with your readers in your History in jumbling Doctrine Discipline and Worship together as if because there was a Reformation in Doctrine and that grounded upon the Word of God there must also be a Reformation in the rest too which was little or not at all and that grounded upon the Word also this deceit runs through your book you tell us ever and anon of
Cloyster lined with manifold favours your zeal for the Church cannot want its recompence but sir it is good to remember your latter end you know not but that your conscience may be then awakened and read over this history you have written and pinch you for the Errata's of your zeal and charity against your poor Brethren we are confident that much of that you have laid into the foundation of the Reformation of the Church of England though you and others judge it gold silver pretious stones will be found wood hay and stubble when he appeareth who is like a refiners fire There is one very naughty passage in your book pag. 38. part 1. utterly unbecoming the mouth of a Christian much less a Doctor of Divinity where you are not ashamed to say That because in the twenty fourth Injunction in King Edwards time that upon Holy and Festival dayes it shall be lawful for men to labour in harvest you extend this liberty as well to the Lords day as the Annual Festivals and then you quote an Act of Parliament to authorize this liberty and say that by that Act any man either in harvest or or at any other times in the year when necessity shall so require who will not pretend necessity may labour ride fish or work any kind of work at their pleasure upon the Lords day And you tell us what was done at Court on that day Sir we are confident that the intention of that Act did not reach to allow so gross a prophanation of the Lords day and you that are so versed in Acts of Parliament for they are the only sphere wherein Liturgy and Ceremonies move cannot you find an Act of Parliament restraining this abuse If you cannot which we know you may it had been the duty of a Protestant Reformed Doctor of Divinity to have discovered the evil of such abuses and to have laboured with all your might that such an Act may pass Oh Sir must Jesus Christ our Lord have no preheminence above our Lady and must Iohn Baptist be lifted up to an equality with him whose shoe-latchet he confessed he was not worthy to unloose What! have Peter and Paul and Philip and Iacob done as much for us as Jesus Christ and where is the least hint that one hour is to be set apart to their honour Must every paltry holy-day be set in equality of reputation with the Lords day which Christ sanctified by his resurrection the accomplishment of a far greater work then that of Creation and his Apostles instituted by their constant solemn Assemblies upon it You say in page 38. part 1. in the latter times the Lords day began to be advanced into the reputation of the Jewish Sabbath If by latter times you mean the Apostles times it is true for then it began and when ever it began why should not Christians be as zealous to advance the Lords day unto the highest pitch of reputation that ever the Jewish Sabbath was in abateing the Ceremonious rigor have not Christians greater obligations greater encouragements to glorifie God and lift up his name which is Holy Holy Holy Oh Mr. Doctor the time past may suffice you for this folly You need not have now told us that men may do any thing at their pleasure if they say they have necessity on the Lords day and seek to establish this mischief by a Law We would be loth to be in your coat in the day of the Lord for your debasing the Lords day for the best preferment the Church of England can give us We say to you as Bishop Iewel said to Harding Arripe severitatem Christianam palinodiam cane Well Sir to go on with our reckoning you have seen one Non-conformist and Ridley's recantation for his Prelatical rigor which amounts to another and so he is to be taken off the file and you have two less then you had We shall pass on with more speed in the numbring up the rest You tell us page 93. part 1. of one Trins a Deacon who refused to wear the vestments appointed to be worn Of one Mr. Iohn Rogers Prebend of Saint Pauls and Divinity Reader of that Church who could never be perswaded to wear them The like aversness as you call it you ascribe unto Mr. Iohn Philpot Archdeacon of Winchester who suffered in Queen Maries time So that here you have Hooper Ridley when in his cold blood Trins Rogers and Philpot all disgusting these Ceremonies Many more there were but these you have left upon record with your own pen. To proceed to the times of Queen Elisabeth you have heard Iewels testimony in part who was the glory of her Reign for learning and you will see it more fully by and by You tell us page 120. part 2. that one Whitehead who had been Chaplain to Anne Bollen the Queens mother was offered the Archbishoprick of Canterbury but you say he refused it because he was more inclined to the Presbyterians then the Episcopal form of Government And page 123. part 2. you say Coverdall waved the acceptation of the Bishoprick of Oxon or any other then vacant out of a disaffection to the Habit of that Order And page 124. part 2. you say Alexander Nowell Dean of Saint Pauls Preaching before Queen Elisabeth spake irreverently of the sign of the Cross for which she from her closet window immediately checked him commanding him to retire from that ungodly digression And page 165. part 2. you tell us that Father Iohn Fox the Martyrologist being called on to subscribe appeared before the Bishop with the New Testament in Greek To this said he I will subscribe and if this will not serve take my Prebend of Salisbury the only preferment I hold in the Church of England and much good may it do you You tell us of Sampson Dean of Christ-Church who was deprived you say pag. 164. part 2. for refusing to wear the Habit belonging to his place You tell us also of one Hardiman page 115. part 2. a Prebend of Westminster deprived also for throwing down the Altar and defacing the vestments And in the same page you say both the Professors of divinity in the two Universites and Whitington Dean of Durham were Non-conformists These instances are your own and so you have no reason to except against them We have not wronged you as far as we know in a syllable and now Sir we leave it to you to judge Whether the point of conformity to such Ceremonies which have been a continual occasion of offence to the Reformed Churches both at home and abroad be still to be pressed with accustomed rigor A second branch of the third Querie was Whether such Ceremonies which link us in a conformity with that Church from which in many other things we have justly separated be to be continued and enjoyned We say that the Church of England having renounced Communion with the Church of Rome in all material points of Doctrine ought in point of