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A39994 The differences of the time, in three dialogues the first, anent episcopacy, the second, anent the obligation of the covenants against episcopacy, the third, anent separation : intended for the quieting the minds of people, and settling them in more peace and unity. Forrester, David, fl. 1679. 1679 (1679) Wing F1589; ESTC R10780 86,473 238

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say_v and_o do_v not_o christ_n commission_n do_v aswell_o authorise_v judas_n as_o any_o other_o to_o preach_v and_o baptize_v the_o leprosy_n of_o the_o hand_n do_v not_o hinder_v the_o grow_a of_o the_o corn_n which_o that_o hand_n sow_v pag._n 42_o 43._o the_o ten_o tribe_n do_v not_o only_a worship_n god_n after_o a_o false_a manner_n by_o set_v up_o their_o golden_a calf_n in_o dan_n and_o bethel_n etc._n etc._n yet_o notwithstanding_o all_o this_o when_o the_o prophet_n come_v to_o anoint_v jehu_n he_o say_v thus_o say_v the_o lord_n god_n of_o israel_n i_o have_v anoint_v thou_o king_n over_o the_o people_n of_o the_o lord_n even_o over_o israel_n etc._n etc._n in_o christ_n time_n it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o office_n of_o the_o priest_n and_o highpriest_n be_v exceed_o corrupt_v they_o come_v ordinary_o unto_o their_o office_n by_o bribery_n and_o faction_n the_o priest_n and_o high-priest_n have_v the_o chief_a stroke_n in_o the_o crucify_a of_o christ._n and_o yet_o 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wrong_v figure_v discuss_v the_o question_n in_o what_o case_n it_o be_v lawful_a to_o separate_v from_o a_o church_n where_o among_o sundry_a other_o thing_n he_o say_v pag._n 232._o separation_n from_o a_o true_a church_n where_o the_o orthodox_n word_n of_o god_n be_v preach_v and_o the_o sacrament_n due_o administer_v we_o think_v unlawful_a and_o at_o great_a length_n he_o vindicat_o 2_o cor._n 6.14_o against_o separatist_n pag._n 233._o the_o personal_a sin_n of_o other_o be_v no_o warrant_n for_o separation_n for_o christ_n himself_o and_o the_o apostle_n do_v eat_v the_o passover_n and_o worship_n god_n with_o one_o who_o christ_n say_v have_v a_o devil_n and_o shall_v betray_v the_o son_n of_o man_n and_o be_v a_o unclean_a man_n joh._n 13.11_o 18._o ibid._n if_o it_o be_v say_v judas_n be_v neither_o convict_v of_o his_o treachery_n against_o christ_n nor_o be_v he_o know_v to_o the_o apostle_n by_o name_n to_o be_v the_o man_n for_o some_o of_o they_o suspect_v themselves_o 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participation_n and_o so_o the_o cup_n of_o devil_n 1_o cor._n 10.21_o paul_n do_v not_o command_v separation_n from_o the_o church_n of_o corinth_n and_o the_o table_n of_o the_o lord_n there_o pag._n 254._o the_o godly_a in_o england_n who_o refuse_v the_o ceremony_n and_o bishop_n do_v well_o not_o to_o separate_v from_o the_o visible_a church_n in_o england_n he_o say_v indeed_o they_o separate_v from_o the_o church_n in_o the_o worst_a and_o great_a part_n which_o he_o understand_v of_o their_o disow_a bishop_n and_o the_o ceremony_n but_o yet_o they_o keep_v communion_n with_o that_o church_n in_o unquestionable_a duty_n as_o be_v well_o know_v all_o except_o the_o separatist_n against_o who_o mr._n rutherfoord_n be_v here_o reason_v and_o against_o who_o the_o old_a nonconformist_n do_v write_v ibid._n if_o a_o church_n be_v incorrigible_a in_o a_o wicked_a conversation_n and_o yet_o retain_v the_o true_a faith_n of_o christ_n it_o be_v presume_v god_n have_v there_o some_o to_o 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of_o so_o great_a authority_n as_o to_o be_v ashamed_a to_o confess_v we_o have_v err_v the_o lord_n bless_v we_o with_o truth_n and_o peace_n peace_n be_v within_o the_o wall_n of_o our_o jerusalem_n and_o prosperity_n within_o her_o palace_n and_o let_v they_o prosper_v who_o love_v she_o and_o her_o peace_n amen_n d._n i_o thank_v you_o for_o your_o free_a and_o friendly_a commune_n with_o i_o i_o know_v the_o apostle_n bid_v i_o prove_v all_o thing_n which_o i_o resolve_v to_o do_v and_o to_o beg_v illumination_n from_o the_o father_n of_o light_n and_o that_o he_o will_v give_v i_o understanding_n in_o all_o thing_n and_o what_o upon_o due_a trial_n i_o find_v to_o be_v right_a and_o good_a i_o shall_v by_o his_o grace_n hold_v it_o fast_o farewell_o schisma_fw-la proles_fw-la superbiae_fw-la male_a perseverando_fw-la fit_a haeresis_fw-la &_o mater_fw-la haereseos_fw-la finis_fw-la difference_n of_o the_o time_n