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dominick_n o_o ignatius_n than_o the_o jesuite_n o_o luther_n o_o calvin_n o_o zuinglius_fw-la and_o charge_v they_o for_o creeper_n into_o the_o church_n without_o any_o personal_a or_o doctrinal_a succession_n either_o what_o the_o jesuite_n further_a urge_v against_o the_o protestant_n from_o augustine_n to_o prove_v the_o romanist_n the_o only_a unspotted_a church_n be_v mere_a vanity_n as_o for_o myself_o say_v augustine_n there_o be_v many_o thing_n which_o make_v i_o to_o remain_v within_o this_o catholic_n church_n first_o the_o uniform_a consent_n of_o people_n and_o nation_n which_o say_v the_o jesuite_n be_v not_o see_v among_o protestant_n 70_o protestant_n reply_v pag._n 70_o i_o be_o sure_a the_o papist_n be_v not_o catholic_n from_o the_o body_n of_o their_o church_n but_o from_o the_o union_n with_o their_o head_n when_o in_o fundamental_n the_o protestant_n agree_v with_o all_o people_n and_o nation_n not_o thereticall_a and_o dâ—â—â—tisticall_a over_o the_o face_n 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themselves_o last_o the_o very_a name_n of_o catholic_a which_o be_v so_o proper_a to_o this_o church_n amongst_o so_o many_o heresy_n that_o howsoever_o all_o heretic_n affect_v the_o name_n of_o catholic_a yet_o if_o a_o strange_a chance_n to_o inquire_v in_o what_o place_n do_v the_o catholickâ—_n meet_v together_o no_o heretic_n will_v dare_v to_o show_v hiâ—_n own_o church_n or_o house_n 70_o reply_v pag._n 70_o first_o i_o desire_v the_o jesuit_n to_o consider_v what_o augustine_n say_v that_o heretic_n affect_v the_o name_n &_o never_o any_o 〈◊〉_d more_o than_o papist_n who_o be_v all_o but_o donatist_n of_o which_o none_o be_v find_v in_o the_o ancient_a succession_n of_o the_o roman_a bishop_n second_o that_o although_o the_o title_n catholic_n do_v point_n at_o the_o true_a church_n in_o the_o primitive_a time_n yet_o it_o be_v not_o otherwise_o then_o the_o title_n of_o man_n do_v point_n out_o heretic_n fineâ—â—_n heretic_n hieron_n cont_n luâ—ferianos_fw-la prope_fw-la 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neither_o papist_n catholic_n for_o howsoever_o they_o usurp_v the_o name_n yet_o be_v they_o spot_v and_o infect_v not_o only_o with_o error_n of_o life_n but_o with_o heresy_n and_o apostafy_v also_o as_o have_v be_v plain_o declare_v what_o theophilus_n speak_v concern_v the_o church_n we_o resist_v not_o neither_o can_v the_o jesuite_n embrace_v it_o as_o enclose_v any_o prerogative_n for_o they_o so_o that_o all_o his_o labour_v here_o have_v be_v to_o cloth_n rome_n with_o the_o catholic_a privilege_n of_o exemption_n from_o heresy_n but_o with_o ill_a success_n see_v it_o have_v be_v declare_v filthy_a in_o manner_n heretical_a in_o doctrine_n and_o apostatical_a from_o the_o ancient_a purity_n wherein_o she_o appear_v in_o the_o primitive_a time_n and_o therefore_o the_o jesuite_n conclusion_n be_v nothing_o but_o the_o approbation_n of_o his_o fantasy_n which_o out_o of_o self-love_n be_v bestow_v upon_o his_o enlarge_a endeavour_n sect_n x._o the_o ten_o section_n inquire_v 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cap._n 25._o annot_fw-mi 25._o graecus_n intelligens_fw-la spiritum_fw-la sanctum_fw-la procedere_fw-la per_fw-la filium_fw-la quod_fw-la non_fw-la aliud_fw-la significat_fw-la quam_fw-la quod_fw-la nos_fw-la dicimus_fw-la at_o all_o so_o many_o may_v adore_v christ_n in_o receive_v the_o sacrament_n that_o never_o think_v of_o his_o bodily_a presence_n by_o transubstantiation_n nor_o dream_v of_o your_o wafer-god_n nor_o your_o priest_n able_a to_o create_v the_o almighty_a moreover_o the_o real_a presence_n may_v stand_v and_o yet_o you_o may_v be_v idolator_n in_o adore_v the_o host_n and_o in_o substance_n the_o host_n may_v be_v but_o only_a bread_n and_o yet_o christ_n be_v present_a in_o the_o sacrament_n and_o in_o the_o same_o manner_n as_o the_o jesuite_n have_v confess_v 44._o reply_v pag_n 44._o the_o same_o but_o this_o point_n be_v consider_v elsewhere_o and_o therefore_o may_v be_v here_o omit_v second_o the_o question_n be_v not_o about_o the_o ear_n or_o blade_v of_o 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and_o not_o to_o his_o secret_a will_n who_o tri_v his_o own_o by_o affliction_n as_o the_o church_n of_o the_o jew_n in_o egypt_n and_o the_o primitive_a in_o her_o sincereâ—â—_n perfection_n three_o â—s_v concern_v the_o several_a 〈◊〉_d few_o in_o comparison_n wherein_o the_o greek_a church_n aâ—_n this_o day_n dissent_v from_o the_o roman_a their_o beginning_n and_o contradiction_n iâ—_n noterious_a â—â—_o noterious_a reply_v pag._n â—â—_o here_o the_o jesuite_n by_o way_n of_o preface_n make_v the_o greek_a church_n at_o this_o day_n to_o vary_v from_o the_o 〈◊〉_d in_o regard_n of_o we_o for_o so_o i_o conceive_v he_o desire_v to_o be_v understand_v â—ut_v in_o a_o few_o point_n which_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o they_o differ_v at_o thisday_n from_o they_o in_o most_o point_n that_o we_o 〈◊〉_d they_o for_o so_o that_o i_o doubt_v not_o but_o they_o receive_v scardall_a from_o your_o corruption_n which_o because_o yoâ—â—_n pride_n will_v not_o â—ure_v they_o leave_v you_o 〈◊〉_d â—â—_o your_o 〈◊〉_d and_o adhere_v to_o thâ—_n 〈◊〉_d doctrine_n which_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d every_o wheâ—_n receive_v at_o all_o time_n 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o catholic_a church_n and_o although_o they_o 〈◊〉_d the_o 〈◊〉_d of_o 〈◊〉_d yet_o some_o of_o your_o own_o before_o own_o see_v before_o think_v their_o error_n therein_o to_o be_v only_o in_o the_o 〈◊〉_d of_o express_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o not_o in_o the_o substance_n of_o doctrine_n itself_o and_o 〈◊〉_d whereas_o he_o say_v that_o their_o beginning_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d iâ—_n 〈◊〉_d i_o will_v believe_v he_o when_o he_o have_v answer_v those_o point_n which_o i_o have_v lay_v 〈◊〉_d before_o for_o what_o he_o have_v do_v by_o his_o own_o election_n and_o choice_n will_v declare_v unto_o we_o what_o great_a performance_n we_o may_v expect_v â—â—_o his_o hand_n when_o a_o other_o may_v have_v the_o liberty_n to_o point_v out_o his_o task_n and_o first_o he_o begin_v with_o their_o denial_n of_o subjectional_a the_o roman_a sea_n etc._n etc._n this_o be_v the_o first_o 〈◊〉_d and_o agreat_a one_o and_o as_o he_o tell_v we_o be_v begâ—â—_n by_o john_n of_o constantinople_n and_o he_o there_o â—pon_o several_o contradect_v by_o gregory_n the_o great_a and_o by_o pelagius_n in_o his_o epistle_n etc._n etc._n â—â—_o etc._n reply_v pag._n â—â—_o here_o be_v two_o 〈◊〉_d fashoodâ—_n by_o this_o jesuite_n in_o this_o particular_a suppose_a and_o 〈◊〉_d first_o that_o 〈◊〉_d age_n before_o 〈◊〉_d of_o constantinople_n his_o 〈◊〉_d the_o bishop_n of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o their_o sense_n be_v universal_o acknowledge_v second_o that_o this_o controversy_n betwiâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d gregory_n be_v about_o the_o denial_n of_o papal_a 〈◊〉_d â—oth_o which_o shall_v be_v 〈◊〉_d to_o be_v notorious_o untrue_a for_o the_o first_o 〈◊〉_d the_o jesuite_n orderly_o proceed_v he_o shall_v have_v prove_v the_o roman_a bishop_n the_o monarch_n of_o the_o church_n by_o universal_a confent_n before_o he_o shall_v have_v question_v the_o greek_a church_n for_o the_o
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of_o purgatory_n bellarmine_n inquire_v whether_o the_o soul_n therein_o be_v sure_a of_o eternal_a salvation_n and_o tell_v that_o dionysius_n carthusianus_n deny_v it_o in_o regard_n of_o certain_a vision_n 47._o vision_n bellarm_n lib._n 2._o de_fw-fr purgato_n cap._n 4._o quidam_fw-la catholici_fw-la existimant_fw-la varias_fw-la esse_fw-la in_o purgatorio_fw-la poenas_fw-la &_o unam_fw-la esse_fw-la omnium_fw-la maximam_fw-la incertitudinem_fw-la salutis_fw-la qua_fw-la dicunt_fw-la quasdam_fw-la solùm_fw-la animas_fw-la multari_fw-la quae_fw-la licet_fw-la revera_fw-la certò_fw-la salvandae_fw-la sint_fw-la tamen_fw-la ipsas_fw-la hoc_fw-la ignorare_fw-la ita_fw-la videtur_fw-la â—entire_fw-la dionysius_n carthusianus_n ob_fw-la quasdam_fw-la visiones_fw-la quas_fw-la ipse_fw-la refert_fw-la libro_fw-la de_fw-la 4._o novissimis_fw-la be_v 47._o and_o yet_o this_o cross_v the_o opinion_n of_o their_o divine_n salutis_fw-la divine_n ibid._n at_o communis_fw-la theologorum_fw-la sententia_fw-la est_fw-la omnes_fw-la animas_fw-la quae_fw-la in_o purgatorio_fw-la sunt_fw-la habere_fw-la certitudinem_fw-la suae_fw-la salutis_fw-la so_o that_o either_o the_o devil_n do_v teach_v some_o of_o their_o divine_n or_o else_o the_o troop_n of_o their_o divine_n resist_v the_o vision_n from_o god_n but_o what_o need_v we_o to_o run_v about_o to_o find_v who_o have_v teach_v papist_n so_o much_o of_o their_o new_a faith_n when_o they_o have_v devil_n allow_v preacher_n and_o justify_v to_o be_v the_o mouth_n and_o instrumental_a oracle_n suum_fw-la oracle_n histor_n de_fw-fr tribus_fw-la energumenis_fw-la supra_fw-la citat_fw-la pag._n 935._o oraculum_fw-la potest_fw-la aâ—cipi_fw-la instrumentaliter_fw-la ut_fw-la eraculum_fw-la idem_fw-la sit_fw-la quod_fw-la oâ—_n spiritus_fw-la sancti_fw-la &_o in_o hoc_fw-la sensu_fw-la sicut_fw-la in_o creaturis_fw-la insensibilibus_fw-la &c_n &c_n ita_fw-la nihil_fw-la absurdi_fw-la sequitur_fw-la ex_fw-la hoc_fw-la quod_fw-la deus_fw-la facit_fw-la daemonem_fw-la os_fw-la suum_fw-la of_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n yea_o so_o lively_a and_o zealous_a be_v verine_n the_o devil_n report_v to_o be_v dixisses_fw-la be_v ibid._n pag._n 797_o constat_fw-la daemonem_fw-la verinum_n multas_fw-la actiones_fw-la fecisse_fw-la in_o quibus_fw-la christo_fw-la ministravit_fw-la sanctos_fw-la laudavit_fw-la &_o beatam_fw-la virginem_fw-la &_o multa_fw-la disseruit_fw-la de_fw-la vitijs_fw-la &_o virâ—utibus_fw-la de_fw-la vitâ_fw-la aeternâ_fw-la inferno_fw-la &_o concilijs_fw-la evangelicis_fw-la quae_fw-la benè_fw-la vivero_fw-la docent_fw-la in_o quibus_fw-la duo_fw-la admirâ—tione_fw-la dig_v na_fw-fr concurrebant_fw-la primò_fw-la quod_fw-la sermo_fw-la ipsius_fw-la erat_fw-la ardeâ—s_fw-la &_o vivens_fw-la &_o crediderim_fw-la quod_fw-la si_fw-la angelus_n de_fw-fr coelo_fw-la aut_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la quispiam_fw-la descendisset_fw-la non_fw-la potuisset_fw-la aliter_fw-la loqui_fw-la loquebatur_fw-la enim_fw-la ut_fw-la potestatem_fw-la habens_fw-la &_o erant_fw-la verba_fw-la illius_fw-la ut_fw-la faculae_fw-la ardentes_fw-la &_o corda_fw-la illorum_fw-la â—epida_fw-la inflammabant_fw-la vnde_fw-la qui_fw-la audiebant_fw-la eum_fw-la ubertini_fw-la flebant_fw-la &_o obliviscebantur_fw-la aquavitae_fw-la praeâ—eritae_fw-la alij_fw-la â—undebâ—â—â—_n pectora_fw-la alij_fw-la extra_fw-la se_fw-la rapti_fw-la altâ_fw-la voâ—â—_n clâ—mabant_fw-la â—iserere_fw-la domine_fw-la domine_fw-la â—iserere_fw-la alij_fw-la vitam_fw-la in_o melius_fw-la mutaverunt_fw-la alij_fw-la saeculo_fw-la reâ—â—â—tiârunt_fw-la possum_fw-la dicere_fw-la quod_fw-la plures_fw-la audiveram_fw-la in_o ecclesiâ_fw-la praedicatores_fw-la viros_fw-la sanctos_fw-la &_o valdè_fw-la illuminatos_fw-la &_o huius_fw-la comparatione_fw-la voces_fw-la emortuas_fw-la dixisses_fw-la that_o neither_o angel_n nor_o apostle_n can_v speak_v otherwise_o praise_v the_o saint_n the_o bless_a virgin_n dispute_v of_o virtue_n vice_n life_n eternal_a hell_n and_o evangelicall_n counsel_n so_o that_o some_o of_o his_o hearer_n weep_v some_o do_v beat_v their_o breast_n some_o cry_v miserere_fw-la some_o change_v their_o life_n some_o enter_v the_o cloister_n yea_o so_o excellent_a be_v he_o in_o preach_v that_o the_o popish_a preacher_n which_o be_v holy_a and_o illuminate_v be_v but_o like_o the_o white_a of_o a_o egg_n without_o relishe_a if_o compare_v with_o he_o but_o will_v you_o see_v what_o doctrine_n these_o infernal_a oracle_n be_v approover_n of_o they_o teach_v the_o great_a doctrine_n of_o popish_a idolatry_n by_o their_o word_n and_o practice_v the_o adoration_n of_o the_o hoâ—st_v corporis_fw-la hoâ—st_v ibid_fw-la pag._n 3_o compulsi_fw-la fuerunt_fw-la duo_fw-la ex_fw-la daemonibus_fw-la dare_v gloriam_fw-la &_o honorem_fw-la domino_fw-la jesu_fw-la christo_fw-la &_o adoraverunt_fw-la cum_fw-la sub_fw-la sacra_fw-la hostia_fw-la verbo_fw-la &_o gestu_fw-la corporis_fw-la second_o they_o defend_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o papal_a extent_n and_o use_n of_o the_o will_n committe_v will_n ibid._n pag._n 101_o et_fw-la 102._o vâ—us_fw-fr daemonum_fw-la dixit_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la qui_fw-la possit_fw-la hâ—mini_fw-la adimere_fw-la liberum_fw-la arbitrium_fw-la &_o paula_fw-la post_fw-la et_fw-la dixit_fw-la unus_fw-la daemonum_fw-la non_fw-la vult_fw-la ipsa_fw-la uti_fw-la suâ_fw-la libertate_fw-la et_fw-la si_fw-la vellet_fw-la uti_fw-la suâ_fw-la libertate_fw-la non_fw-la incideret_fw-la in_o mâ—la_fw-la quâ—_n committe_v three_o their_o practice_n instruct_v to_o swear_v by_o the_o venerable_a sacrament_n â—acramentum_fw-la sacrament_n ibid._n pag._n 104._o daemon_n jurabat_fw-la sâ—lenniter_fw-la per_fw-la venerabile_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la quòd_fw-la sic_fw-la res_fw-la se_fw-la haberet_fw-la &_o postea_fw-la jurauâ—t_fw-la juramentum_fw-la so_o â—nne_v per_fw-la venerabile_fw-la â—acramentum_fw-la four_o they_o confute_v the_o protestant_n general_o in_o the_o point_n of_o antichrist_n 1._o that_o his_o name_n be_v not_o as_o old_a irenaeus_n intimate_v and_o we_o teach_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o tu_fw-la es_fw-la deus_fw-la coeli_fw-la atque_fw-la terrae_fw-la terrâ—_n terrae_fw-la ibid._n pag._n 71._o be_v zebub_n et_fw-fr leviathan_n dixeruat_fw-la principi_fw-la moderno_fw-la et_fw-la lodoâ—co_fw-la quod_fw-la nominarent_fw-la cum_fw-la hoc_fw-la nomine_fw-la tu_fw-la es_fw-la dius_n coeli_fw-la atque_fw-la terrâ—_n 2._o the_o two_o beast_n apoc._n 13._o and_o 17._o be_v not_o the_o same_o but_o the_o first_o lucifer_n the_o second_o antichrist_n antichristuâ—_n antichrist_n ibid._n pag._n 94_o de_fw-fr duabus_fw-la bestijs_fw-la apocalypsâ—oslocuta_fw-la est_fw-la in_o hunc_fw-la modum_fw-la audiviâ—_n diabâ—lo_fw-it quod_fw-la duarum_fw-la bestiarum_fw-la quae_fw-la venire_fw-la habent_fw-la sub_fw-la finem_fw-la mundi_fw-la alter_fw-la est_fw-la lucifâ—â—_n alter_v antichristuâ—_n in_o the_o generation_n of_o antichrist_n see_v how_o bellarmine_n and_o the_o devil_n agree_v antichrist_n be_v bear_v of_o the_o devil_n diaboli_fw-la devil_n bellarm._n de_fw-fr rom._n pont._n lib._n 3._o cap._n 12._o non_fw-la esset_fw-la tamen_fw-la error_n si_fw-la quis_fw-la diceret_fw-la antichristum_n nasciturum_fw-la ex_fw-la diabolo_fw-it &_o muâ—ere_o &c._n &c._n histor_n de_fw-fr tribus_fw-la energum_n pag._n â—â—_o nunc_fw-la natus_fw-la est_fw-la &_o non_fw-la ex_fw-la coiâ—â—_n viri_fw-la sed_fw-la per_fw-la operationem_fw-la diaboli_fw-la his_o mother_n a_o jew_n est_fw-la jew_n bellarm._n ibid._n sententia_fw-la est_fw-la antichristum_n nasciturum_fw-la de_fw-la tribu_fw-la dan._n histor_n de_fw-fr tribus_fw-la energ_fw-mi pag._n 59_o mater_fw-la ejus_fw-la judaea_n est_fw-la the_o jew_n will_v receive_v he_o as_o a_o messiah_n messiah_n messiah_n bellarm_n ibid._n quòd_fw-la antichristus_fw-la sit_fw-la futurus_fw-la judaeus_fw-la &_o circumcisus_fw-la certum_fw-la est_fw-la &_o deducitur_fw-la primùm_fw-la ex_fw-la dictis_fw-la nam_fw-la judâ—i_fw-la nunquam_fw-la reciperent_fw-la hominem_fw-la non_fw-la judaeum_n aut_fw-la incircumcisum_fw-la pro_fw-la svo_fw-la messià _fw-la histor_n de_fw-fr tribus_fw-la energ_fw-mi pag._n 61._o voco_fw-la etiam_fw-la christus_fw-la rex_fw-la messiah_n he_o shall_v not_o reign_v at_o rome_n but_o at_o jerusalem_n eum_fw-la jerusalem_n bellarm._n de_fw-fr rom._n pont._n lib._n â—_o cap._n 13._o vera_fw-la sententia_fw-la est_fw-la antichristi_fw-la sedem_fw-la fore_fw-la jerusalem_n non_fw-la romam_fw-la histor_n de_fw-fr â—â—bus_fw-la energ_fw-mi pag._n 59_o non_fw-la habitabit_fw-la romae_fw-la mater_fw-la ojus_fw-la nutrit_fw-la eum_fw-la he_o shall_v not_o receive_v baptism_n in_o the_o church_n but_o be_v circumcise_v circumcifus_fw-la circumcise_v historia_fw-la de_fw-la tribus_fw-la energum_n pag._n 59_o non_fw-fr in_o ecclesia_fw-la nomen_fw-la impositum_fw-la est_fw-la eiâ—_n neque_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la baptismum_fw-la accepit_fw-la bellarm._n de_fw-fr rom._n pont._n lib._n 3._o cap._n 12._o antichristus_fw-la sit_fw-la futurus_fw-la judaeus_fw-la &_o circumcifus_fw-la he_o shall_v be_v monarch_n of_o the_o whole_a world_n ejus_fw-la world_n bellarm._n de_fw-fr rom._n pont._n lib._n 3._o cap._n â—â—_o dicunt_fw-la antichristum_n omniâ—m_fw-la princiâ—â—â—_n 〈◊〉_d histor_n de_fw-fr tribus_fw-la energum_fw-la pag._n â—9_n dominabitur_fw-la per_fw-la universum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d ad_fw-la omnes_fw-la perveniet_fw-la principatus_fw-la ejus_fw-la now_o let_v the_o reader_n behold_v who_o be_v most_o behold_v to_o the_o devil_n for_o their_o doctrine_n rome_n or_o the_o catholic_a church_n antichrist_n or_o the_o protoplast_n of_o protestancy_n and_o to_o show_v we_o how_o confirm_v they_o be_v to_o follow_v lie_n the_o jesuite_n do_v margin_n his_o citation_n against_o luther_n with_o a_o note_n the_o devil_n allege_v scripture_n as_o if_o it_o be_v no_o better_a than_o a_o devilish_a practice_n to_o be_v instruct_v from_o god_n &_o his_o word_n i_o will_v say_v nothing_o in_o answer_n to_o these_o blasphemy_n only_o increpet_fw-la vos_fw-la deus_fw-la 9_o deus_fw-la jude_n 9_o the_o
receive_v be_v in_o those_o time_n for_o he_o with_o vehemency_n declare_v that_o it_o be_v in_o vain_a for_o the_o priest_n to_o attend_v the_o altar_n where_o the_o people_n do_v not_o communicate_v communicetur_fw-la communicate_v chrysost_n homil_n 61._o ad_fw-la populum_fw-la antiochen_n o_fw-la consuetudinem_fw-la â—_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d frustra_fw-la quotidi_fw-la anum_fw-la incassum_fw-la aâ—sistimus_fw-la altari_fw-la nullus_fw-la qui_fw-la communicetur_fw-la and_o cassander_n will_v tell_v you_o that_o this_o depravation_n of_o the_o sacrament_n in_o the_o popish_a church_n be_v distaste_v in_o two_o several_a counsel_n &_o the_o priest_n forbid_v to_o celebrâ—â—â—_n alone_o praesumat_fw-la alone_o cassander_n consult_v aâ—_n 24._o §._o de_fw-fr solitarijs_fw-la missis_fw-la pag._n 21_o exit_fw-la canone_o quodam_fw-la câ—â—cilij_fw-la nanetensis_fw-la sacerdos_n solus_fw-la missam_fw-la celebrare_fw-la vetatur_fw-la absurdum_fw-la enim_fw-la est_fw-la ut_fw-la dicat_fw-la dominus_fw-la vobiscum_fw-la sursum_fw-la corda_fw-la gratias_fw-la agamus_fw-la deo_fw-la domino_fw-la nostro_fw-la cùm_fw-la nullus_fw-la sit_fw-la qui_fw-la respondeat_fw-la aut_fw-la oremus_fw-la cùm_fw-la nullus_fw-la siâ—_n qui_fw-la secum_fw-la oret_fw-la itaq_n concludit_fw-la ridiculosâ—â—â—perstitionem_fw-la illam_fw-la maximè_fw-la à _fw-la monasterijs_fw-la monachorum_fw-la exterminandan_n esse_fw-la et_fw-la huic_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d decreto_fw-la simile_n reperitur_fw-la in_o conc_fw-fr papiensi_fw-la cap._n â—32_n ut_fw-la â—â—llus_fw-la presbyter_n solâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d celebrare_fw-la praesumat_fw-la but_o if_o luther_n have_v first_o oppose_v this_o practice_n do_v he_o not_o well_o be_v it_o not_o better_a to_o reduce_v thing_n to_o that_o good_a order_n from_o which_o they_o be_v fall_v then_o to_o curse_v they_o who_o will_v not_o have_v thing_n to_o continue_v unorderly_o still_o see_v the_o whole_a face_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n see_v the_o confession_n of_o your_o own_o doctor_n câ—â—hlâ—us_a 331._o câ—â—hlâ—us_a cochlaeus_fw-la deâ—acrâ—ficio_fw-la miâ—sae_fw-la quòd_fw-la inquit_fw-la 〈◊〉_d tam_fw-la frequentes_fw-la non_fw-la 〈◊〉_d missae_fw-la inde_fw-la accidisse_fw-la arbitâ—or_fw-la quòd_fw-la olim_fw-la omnes_fw-la tum_fw-la sacerdotes_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d interâ—rant_fw-la sacrificio_fw-la missae_fw-la peractâ_fw-la oblatione_fw-la cumâ—acrificante_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ex_fw-la câ—â—_n apost_n &_o ex_fw-la libâ—is_fw-la atque_fw-la epist_n antiquissimorâ—_n ecclesiae_fw-la doctorun_n perspicuè_fw-fr coâ—â—oscitur_fw-la tum_o adjungit_fw-la nunc_fw-la verò_fw-la postquam_fw-la communionis_fw-la ordo_fw-la à _fw-la nobis_fw-la observaâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d idque_fw-la propter_fw-la negligentiam_fw-la atque_fw-la soâ—â—â—dian_fw-la tam_fw-la plebis_fw-la quam_fw-la sacetdotum_fw-la spiritus_fw-la sanctus_n missas_fw-la privatas_fw-la celebrâ—â—do_fw-la 〈◊〉_d remedâ—â—â—â—ic_a defector_n invenit_fw-la testae_fw-la hospin_n l_o 4._o hist_o sacr_n pag._n 330._o 331._o &_o cassander_n 〈◊〉_d cassander_n cassaâ—â—_n conâ—_n aâ—â—4_n §._o de_fw-fr iteratione_n pag._n 223._o dubium_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la quin_fw-la unà _fw-la cum_fw-la ipso_fw-la sacerdote_v all_o qui_fw-la adâ—â—â—rint_fw-la qui_fw-la haec_fw-la 〈◊〉_d laudis_fw-la offerebant_fw-la &_o sacramentum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d id_fw-la enim_fw-la 〈◊〉_d verba_fw-la manifestè_fw-la significant_a ut_fw-la cùm_fw-la dicitur_fw-la quotquot_fw-la ex_fw-la haâ—â—ltaris_fw-la participatione_fw-la sacrâ—sanctâ—_n corpus_fw-la et_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d tui_fw-la sumpsâ—riâ—â—â—â—â—tâ—m_fw-la prosiâ—â—â—obis_fw-la domine_fw-la sacramenta_fw-la quae_fw-la sumpâ—imus_fw-la certè_fw-la ex_fw-la totâ_fw-la canonis_fw-la compositione_n manifestâ—_n apparet_fw-la totam_fw-la illam_fw-la mysticam_fw-la in_fw-la quâ_fw-la canon_n adâ—â—bebatur_fw-la actionem_fw-la vel_fw-la publican_n velceâ—â—_n inter_fw-la plures_fw-la sempâ—â—_n celebratam_fw-la suisse_fw-la quòd_fw-la si_fw-la â—odiè_fw-la quoque_fw-la impetrari_fw-la quâ—at_fw-la facilâ—_fw-la verus_fw-la ejus_fw-la intellectus_fw-la restitui_fw-la 〈◊〉_d &_o tell_v i_o whether_o this_o be_v the_o doctrine_n of_o devil_n that_o be_v institute_v by_o christ_n and_o practise_v by_o the_o father_n of_o the_o first_o age_n or_o those_o practice_n which_o be_v bring_v into_o the_o church_n by_o prescript_n of_o man_n though_o impute_v to_o the_o holy_a ghost_n propter_fw-la negligentiam_fw-la &_o socordiam_fw-la 〈◊〉_d plebis_fw-la quâ—m_fw-la sacerdotal_a â—â—_o sacerdotal_a vidâ—_n lit_fw-fr â—â—_o by_o the_o negligence_n &_o sloathfulnesse_n aswell_o of_o the_o people_n as_o of_o the_o priest_n the_o jesuite_n now_o come_v to_o the_o second_o instance_n and_o will_v persuade_v that_o the_o answerer_n do_v far_o more_o idle_o range_v from_o the_o matter_n in_o this_o instance_n concern_v the_o time_n when_o the_o people_n fill_v first_o from_o their_o vulgar_a language_n â—8_o language_n reply_v pag._n â—8_o the_o end_n of_o 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yet_o what_o belong_v to_o religion_n if_o this_o do_v not_o that_o the_o people_n shall_v both_o pray_v to_o god_n intelligent_o amen_o intelligent_o lyra_n in_o cap._n 14._o 1._o cor._n hic_fw-la consequenter_fw-la idem_fw-la oâ—â—endit_n in_o oratioâ—â—_n publicâ_fw-la quia_fw-la â—i_fw-la populus_fw-la inteâ—ligat_fw-la â—râ—tionem_fw-la â—â—â—_o benedictionem_fw-la sacer_fw-la dotis_fw-la melius_fw-la reducitur_fw-la in_o dâ—â—m_fw-la &_o 〈◊〉_d der_fw-mi amen_o &_o receive_v instruction_n from_o he_o in_o a_o language_n which_o they_o familiar_o understand_v second_o he_o say_v that_o this_o change_n be_v unadvised_o bring_v in_o by_o he_o for_o a_o example_n 18_o reply_v pag._n 18_o i_o pray_v you_o tell_v we_o of_o what_o this_o be_v produce_v a_o example_n three_o he_o persuade_v that_o it_o be_v untruelie_o affirm_v that_o the_o latin_a tongue_n in_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o church_n be_v common_o understand_v of_o all_o in_o italy_n france_n and_o spain_n for_o the_o two_o 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the_o roman_a church_n can_v not_o free_v that_o age_n from_o darkness_n three_o that_o the_o spirit_n which_o assist_v pope_n &_o prince_n in_o those_o time_n be_v the_o spirit_n that_o work_v in_o the_o child_n of_o disobedience_n â—_o disobedience_n eph._n â—_o â—_o four_o that_o heresy_n may_v have_v come_v into_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n for_o any_o care_n the_o pope_n have_v to_o keep_v they_o out_o if_o god_n divine_a providence_n have_v not_o prevent_v they_o five_o that_o the_o devil_n abundant_o sow_v his_o tare_n of_o vice_n in_o prince_n &_o prelate_n yet_o god_n divine_a providence_n do_v so_o work_v that_o no_o new_a heresy_n do_v then_o arise_v be_v not_o here_o a_o brave_a defence_n to_o make_v the_o answerer_n his_o argument_n to_o languish_v and_o sleep_v for_o ever_o sure_o the_o jesuite_n be_v betwixt_o sleep_v and_o wake_v that_o he_o say_v he_o know_v not_o what_o but_o do_v the_o devil_n think_v no_o ground_n fit_a for_o his_o tare_n but_o prince_n and_o 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post_fw-la acta_fw-la council_n rhem._n sed_fw-la una_fw-la salus_fw-la hominis_fw-la o_o christ_n â—â—â—eâ—_n ipsa_fw-la roma_fw-la omnium_fw-la ecclesiarum_fw-la hactenus_fw-la habita_fw-la mater_fw-la bonis_fw-la maledicere_fw-la malis_fw-la benedicere_fw-la fer_fw-fr tur_fw-la &_o quibus_fw-la nec_fw-la ave_fw-la dicendum_fw-la est_fw-la comâ—â—â—icare_fw-la tuamque_fw-la legem_fw-la zelantes_fw-la damnare_fw-la abutens_fw-la ligandi_fw-la &_o solvendi_fw-la potestate_fw-la à _fw-la te_fw-la acceptâ_fw-la and_o so_o corrupt_a be_v that_o age_n that_o all_o virtue_n be_v consume_v both_o in_o head_n and_o member_n suerit_fw-la member_n io._n stella_n in_o vitâ_fw-la benedicti_fw-la â—_o papae_fw-la 122._o acciderat_fw-la illi_fw-la aetati_fw-la quòd_fw-la omnis_fw-la virtus_fw-la tam_fw-la in_o capite_fw-la quam_fw-la in_o membris_fw-la ex_fw-la hominum_fw-la ignaviâ_fw-la consumpta_fw-la suerit_fw-la nay_o so_o far_o be_v religion_n out_o of_o date_n that_o priest_n and_o bishop_n dare_v not_o speak_v of_o justice_n or_o righteousness_n in_o regard_n they_o neither_o love_v nor_o practise_v it_o diligunt_fw-la it_o aâ—lfric_n serm_n ad_fw-la sacerdotes_fw-la ms._n in_o biblioth_n colleg._n benedict_n cantabrig_n his_o diebus_fw-la tanta_fw-la negligentia_fw-la est_fw-la in_o sacerdotibus_fw-la &_o episcopis_fw-la qui_fw-la deberent_fw-la esse_fw-la â—oâ—umnae_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la ut_fw-la 〈◊〉_d non_fw-la audent_fw-la de_fw-fr justitia_fw-la loqui_fw-la qui_fw-la justitiam_fw-la nec_fw-la faciunt_fw-la nec_fw-la diligunt_fw-la but_o the_o jesuite_n think_v all_o be_v well_o if_o prince_n and_o prelate_n be_v defile_v together_o yet_o wernerus_n their_o own_a carthusian_n may_v assure_v we_o that_o our_o jesuite_n put_v prince_n causeless_o into_o a_o lewd_a company_n when_o as_o he_o couple_v they_o with_o pope_n for_o he_o tell_v we_o it_o be_v most_o apparent_a that_o holiness_n have_v leave_v the_o pope_n and_o flee_v to_o the_o emperor_n apparet_fw-la 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〈◊〉_d unto_o it_o neither_o will_v we_o â—ver_v 〈◊〉_d to_o any_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d our_o assurance_n this_o may_v 〈◊〉_d that_o unless_o 〈…〉_o something_o which_o 〈…〉_o we_o can_v not_o 〈◊〉_d we_o do_v 〈◊〉_d 〈…〉_o scripture_n iâ—_n a_o 〈◊〉_d and_o holy_a rule_n of_o 〈◊〉_d this_o place_n of_o the_o learned_a hooker_n presuppose_v but_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o that_o historical_a and_o what_o 〈◊〉_d this_o against_o the_o 〈◊〉_d their_o 〈◊〉_d of_o the_o church_n or_o be_v a_o 〈◊〉_d umpire_n and_o sufficient_a 〈◊〉_d to_o square_v our_o â—aith_n and_o action_n by_o for_o who_o know_v not_o that_o the_o heaven_n cover_v all_o thing_n and_o yet_o cover_v not_o themselves_o and_o what_o may_v hinder_v the_o scripture_n in_o like_a 〈◊〉_d to_o teach_v all_o 〈◊〉_d doctrine_n of_o faith_n and_o manner_n and_o yet_o not_o to_o point_v out_o themselves_o s._n augustine_n word_n be_v in_o every_o papist_n mouth_n viz._n that_o he_o will_v not_o beleâ—ve_v the_o scripture_n unless_o the_o authority_n of_o 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â—_o god_n 〈…〉_o and_o thus_o god_n 〈…〉_o give_v witness_n to_o his_o word_n do_v not_o take_v 〈…〉_o sâ—â—â—â—ciency_n to_o declare_v who_o word_n they_o be_v and_o from_o what_o 〈◊〉_d they_o 〈◊〉_d any_o more_o than_o it_o do_v the_o sufficiency_n of_o their_o rule_n which_o consist_v of_o scripture_n and_o tradition_n also_o whereby_o the_o 〈◊〉_d may_v see_v he_o have_v produce_v this_o worthy_a author_n to_o no_o advantage_n â—â—_o be_v plain_a that_o although_o there_o be_v something_o else_o to_o prepare_v the_o way_n objecâ—â—â—_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d sid_n form_n dispâ—_n 3._o sect_n 12._o n._n â—â—â—_o admitti_fw-la potest_fw-la ex_fw-la humâ—na_fw-la authoritate_fw-la geâ—â—rari_fw-la quandam_fw-la fidem_fw-la humanam_fw-la praeviaâ—â—_n ad_fw-la fidem_fw-la 〈◊〉_d non_fw-la â—â—â—quam_fw-la 〈…〉_o well_fw-mi rationem_fw-la 〈◊〉_d ejus_fw-la 〈◊〉_d tanquam_fw-la â—â—â—ditionem_fw-la &_o applicative_o objecâ—â—â—_n yet_o the_o mind_n be_v altogether_o 〈◊〉_d by_o the_o â—â—ght_n oâ—_n the_o scripture_n themselves_o the_o church_n point_v 〈◊〉_d ouâ—_n and_o they_o themselves_o 〈◊〉_d the_o church_n 〈◊〉_d so_o that_o the_o scripture_n remain_v the_o only_a 〈◊〉_d upon_o which_o a_o man_n 〈◊〉_d his_o faith_n for_o any_o thing_n the_o jesuite_n have_v pickâ—â—_n out_o of_o this_o learned_a divine_a â—_o â—_o d._n field_n 〈◊〉_d his_o appendix_n to_o the_o book_n of_o the_o 〈◊〉_d par_fw-fr 2._o §._o â—_o 〈…〉_o will_v 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d all_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—â—_o any_o way_n 〈…〉_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d where_o 〈…〉_o i_o have_v in_o my_o epistle_n 〈◊〉_d that_o all_o mâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d careful_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o be_v the_o true_a 〈◊〉_d that_o so_o they_o may_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d follow_v her_o direction_n and_o rest_n in_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d charge_v â—â—_o that_o â—â—_o my_o four_o 〈◊〉_d follow_v i_o 〈◊〉_d she_o of_o almost_o all_o such_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d aâ—_n i_o 〈◊〉_d
〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d unto_o she_o so_o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d safe_o follow_v her_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d rest_n in_o her_o judgement_n in_o thâ—â—_n i_o say_v general_a counceil_n may_v 〈◊〉_d in_o 〈◊〉_d of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o church_n herself_o from_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o christian_a religion_n and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o all_o this_o be_v a_o â—ad_a beginning_n be_v a_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d he_o i_o lay_v down_o 〈…〉_o first_o that_o the_o church_n include_v in_o iâ—_n all_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d christ_n appear_v in_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d second_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d all_o those_o 〈◊〉_d that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d apostle_n time_n iâ—_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d all_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d happy_o not_o from_o all_o ignorance_n three_o that_o the_o church_n include_v 〈◊〉_d the_o â—eleivers_n live_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d free_v not_o only_o from_o 〈◊〉_d in_o such_o thing_n 〈…〉_o to_o 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈…〉_o thing_n that_o any_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o christian_a 〈◊〉_d and_o religion_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d without_o all_o doubt_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n in_o 〈…〉_o so_o â—â—_o to_o the_o thing_n 〈◊〉_d in_o scripture_n or_o 〈◊〉_d by_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o â—ath_v be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d because_o as_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o church_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d church_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o 〈◊〉_d or_o rome_n but_o the_o universal_a church_n neither_o that_o universal_a church_n which_o 〈◊〉_d be_v gather_v together_o in_o a_o general_a council_n which_o be_v 〈◊〉_d sometime_o to_o have_v err_v but_o that_o which_o disperse_v through_o the_o world_n from_o the_o baptism_n of_o john_n continue_v to_o 〈◊〉_d time_n six_o that_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o waldensis_n the_o father_n successive_o be_v more_o certain_a judge_n in_o matter_n of_o faith_n then_o a_o general_n council_n of_o bishop_n though_o it_o be_v in_o a_o sort_n the_o high_a court_n of_o the_o church_n as_o the_o treatiser_n say_v but_o say_v the_o jesuite_n if_o yet_o for_o all_o this_o our_o answerer_n will_v not_o be_v bring_v to_o build_v his_o conscience_n upon_o any_o other_o authority_n 32_o authority_n reply_v pag._n 32_o i_o perceive_v a_o little_a thing_n will_v beget_v conâ—idence_n 〈◊〉_d jesuite_n that_o be_v so_o lift_v up_o with_o produce_v two_o old_a objection_n to_o little_a purpose_n but_o what_o then_o why_o majora_fw-la his_o agreat_a one_o of_o our_o own_o shall_v school_v he_o a_o little_a better_o pooâ—e_a â—edant_n in_o what_o manner_n by_o tell_v he_o out_o of_o lyriâ—ensis_n that_o the_o ancient_a consent_n of_o godly_a father_n be_v with_o great_a carâ—_n not_o only_o to_o be_v search_v but_o also_o to_o be_v follow_v of_o we_o chief_o in_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n ibid._n reply_v ibid._n as_o if_o the_o consent_n of_o father_n be_v the_o absolute_a rule_n of_o faith_n without_o scripture_n when_o you_o yourselves_o dare_v not_o attribute_v to_o any_o father_n authority_n &_o power_n to_o express_v the_o rule_n of_o faith_n by_o their_o bare_a consent_n for_o durand_n say_v that_o although_o the_o church_n have_v power_n of_o gâ—â—_n on_o 〈◊〉_d yet_o that_o do_v not_o exceed_v thâ—_n limitation_n of_o the_o scripture_n scripturae_fw-la scripture_n durand_n â—â—_o dist._n 44._o q._n 3._o â—_o 9_o ecclesia_fw-la licet_fw-la habet_fw-la in_o terris_fw-la dominationem_fw-la dei._n illa_fw-la tamen_fw-la â—on_n excedit_fw-la limitationem_fw-la scripturae_fw-la universal_a extent_n of_o doctrine_n be_v a_o good_a directory_n to_o truth_n but_o the_o absolute_a foundation_n of_o faith_n be_v the_o sacred_a scripture_n neither_o be_v we_o at_o all_o to_o give_v credit_n say_v the_o author_n of_o the_o imperfect_a work_n upon_o matthew_n among_o the_o work_n of_o chrysostome_n unto_o the_o church_n themselves_o unless_o they_o teach_v or_o do_v those_o thing_n which_o be_v agreeable_a to_o the_o scripture_n scripture_n scripture_n 〈◊〉_d commentar_n in_o mat._n homil_n 49._o inte_n operâ—_fw-la s._n chrys_n incerto_fw-la auctore_fw-la nec_fw-la ipsis_fw-la ecclesijs_fw-la omnino_fw-la â—redendum_fw-la est_fw-la niâ—â—â—a_fw-la dicant_fw-la vel_fw-la faciant_fw-la quae_fw-la convenientia_fw-la sunt_fw-la scripture_n no_o testimony_n have_v any_o strength_n that_o walk_v without_o god_n &_o his_o word_n the_o father_n adhere_v to_o the_o scripture_n &_o therefore_o we_o ought_v to_o adhere_v to_o they_o &_o so_o be_v we_o to_o embrace_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o ancient_a doctor_n &_o counsel_n as_o those_o that_o embrace_v the_o holy_a scripture_n in_o their_o faith_n &_o doctrine_n and_o for_o that_o cause_n this_o learned_a bishop_n couple_v they_o together_o we_o rest_v say_v he_o upon_o the_o scripture_n of_o god_n upon_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o ancient_a doctor_n and_o counsel_n 31_o reply_v pag._n 31_o infer_v thereby_o that_o those_o which_o fix_v their_o faith_n have_v not_o only_o divine_a testimony_n but_o also_o the_o judgement_n and_o belief_n of_o the_o best_a man_n to_o declare_v the_o same_o as_o good_a subsidiarie_n help_v to_o their_o convince_a ground_n which_o do_v not_o conclude_v that_o any_o authority_n beside_o the_o scripture_n be_v necessary_a but_o that_o it_o be_v a_o fair_a &_o convenient_a rule_n to_o bridle_v man_n fancy_n lest_o the_o scripture_n shall_v be_v wrest_v by_o they_o which_o be_v too_o much_o wed_v to_o their_o own_o conceit_n to_o patronage_n their_o error_n and_o what_o augustine_n give_v to_o bishop_n and_o counsel_n this_o learned_a bishop_n assent_v unto_o but_o i_o be_o assure_v that_o the_o jesuite_n will_v not_o be_v able_a to_o prove_v that_o s._n augustine_n ever_o embrace_v such_o a_o thought_n as_o to_o believe_v that_o the_o receive_n of_o humane_a testimony_n shall_v disable_v the_o scripture_n from_o be_v the_o only_o conclude_v and_o sufficient_a rule_n for_o he_o be_v of_o a_o quite_o contrary_a opinion_n as_o be_v apparent_a in_o many_o place_n of_o his_o writing_n comparata_fw-la aâ—g_v â—_o donat._n post_n collat_n c._n 1â—_n quâ—si_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la concilia_fw-la scripture_n canonicis_fw-la fue_z â—int_n aliquandâ—_n comparata_fw-la neither_o will_v our_o jesuite_n have_v we_o in_o our_o appâ—â—le_n to_o scripture_n to_o betray_v our_o cause_n by_o our_o disagreement_n with_o our_o self_n alone_o but_o also_o by_o our_o agreement_n with_o ancient_a heretic_n and_o who_o be_v those_o heretic_n the_o valentinian_o ennomian_o marcionist_n arian_n and_o other_o whâ—_n as_o it_o be_v well_o know_v say_v this_o jesuite_n be_v wâ—nt_a to_o reject_v all_o other_o authority_n and_o to_o â—â—nce_n with_o scripture_n only_o â—â—_o reply_v pag._n â—â—_o if_o this_o jesuite_n be_v not_o a_o fencer_n judge_v by_o his_o weapon_n both_o edge_n and_o point_n be_v rebate_v for_o his_o most_o powerful_a performance_n end_v not_o so_o much_o as_o in_o a_o scratch_n or_o scar_n and_o whereas_o he_o say_v we_o fence_v with_o scripture_n only_o it_o seem_v he_o know_v not_o the_o nature_n thereof_o otherwise_o he_o will_v repute_v it_o with_o the_o apostle_n a_o sword_n for_o a_o soldier_n yea_o sharp_a than_o a_o two-edged_a sword_n we_o acknowledge_v many_o subsidiarie_n help_v but_o indeed_o none_o sufficient_a to_o control_v the_o conscience_n but_o scripture_n only_o and_o herein_o we_o follow_v these_o ancient_a heretic_n 1._o augustâ—â—â—_n cite_v by_o the_o most_o learned_a answerer_n and_o unanswered_a by_o the_o jesuite_n let_v humane_a writing_n be_v remove_v let_v god_n voice_n sound_n donati_n aug._n de_fw-fr pastor_n c._n 14._o aâ—ferantur_fw-la chartae_fw-la humanae_fw-la sonâ—â—t_fw-la voâ—â—s_fw-la divinae_fw-la ede_fw-mi mihi_fw-la unam_fw-la scripturae_fw-la â—ocem_fw-la pro_fw-la parte_fw-la donati_n and_o further_o in_o his_o book_n of_o the_o unity_n of_o the_o church_n he_o say_v let_v they_o declare_v their_o church_n if_o they_o be_v able_a not_o in_o the_o speech_n and_o rumour_n of_o the_o african_n not_o in_o counsel_n of_o their_o bishop_n not_o in_o the_o passage_n of_o their_o dispute_n not_o in_o their_o â—ignes_n &_o deceitful_a wonder_n because_o even_o against_o these_o thing_n the_o word_n of_o god_n have_v persuade_v we_o to_o be_v â—aâ—y_n but_o in_o the_o law_n prophet_n psalm_n the_o pastor_n voice_n the_o evangelist_n preach_v and_o labour_n that_o be_v in_o all_o the_o canonical_a authority_n of_o holy_a scripture_n authoritatibus_fw-la scripture_n aug._n de_fw-fr vnit._n eccle._n c._n 88_o ecclesiam_fw-la svam_fw-la demonstrant_fw-la si_fw-la possunt_fw-la non_fw-la iâ—_n sermonibus_fw-la &_o rumoribus_fw-la afrorum_fw-la non_fw-la in_o concilijs_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la suorum_fw-la non_fw-la in_o literis_fw-la 〈◊〉_d libet_fw-la disputatorum_fw-la non_fw-la in_o signis_fw-la &_o prodigijs_fw-la â—allaâ—ibus_fw-la qui_fw-la etiam_fw-la contra_fw-la ista_fw-la verbo_fw-la domini_fw-la prâ—parati_fw-la &_o cautiâ—â—ddiâ—i_fw-la sumus_fw-la
of_o scripture_n as_o the_o devil_n use_v they_o in_o his_o allegation_n against_o our_o saviour_n or_o pope_n in_o their_o 〈◊〉_d corrupt_o and_o 〈◊〉_d and_o not_o according_a to_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o true_a meaning_n of_o the_o text_n yet_o that_o scripture_n be_v the_o only_a sufficient_a rule_n be_v so_o general_o a_o receive_a truth_n that_o never_o any_o heretic_n deny_v the_o same_o for_o although_o many_o of_o they_o deny_v some_o scripture_n yet_o they_o confess_v those_o which_o they_o acknowledge_v divine_a to_o be_v deliver_v to_o the_o church_n to_o reveal_v god_n will_n and_o to_o determine_v all_o doctrine_n in_o the_o church_n and_o controversy_n of_o faith_n by_o and_o whereas_o this_o wise_a of_o his_o brethren_n will_v persuade_v that_o we_o to_o cloak_n our_o error_n with_o a_o show_n of_o piety_n will_v not_o be_v subject_a to_o the_o sentence_n of_o any_o judge_n whatsoever_o but_o the_o sacred_a scripture_n 32_o reply_v pag._n 32_o the_o jesuite_n be_v here_o 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suscepit_fw-la reljquam_fw-la vero_fw-la omnem_fw-la doctrinam_fw-la de_fw-la mendacio_fw-la praejudicandam_fw-la quae_fw-la sapiaâ—_n contra_fw-la veritatem_fw-la ecclesiarum_fw-la &_o apostolorum_fw-la &_o christi_fw-la &_o dei._n for_o a_o point_n be_v 〈◊〉_d in_o religion_n that_o do_v not_o proceed_v from_o god_n and_o his_o bless_a spirit_n either_o in_o terminis_fw-la or_o by_o deduction_n from_o his_o word_n that_o be_v the_o ancient_n of_o day_n whatsoever_o pretence_n of_o duration_n and_o continuance_n may_v be_v suppose_v 〈◊〉_d be_v never_o general_o receive_v by_o the_o roman_a faction_n themselves_o before_o the_o council_n of_o lateran_n â—â—_o acorus_a in_o 4._o d._n 11._o q._n 3._o apud_fw-la bellarm._n de_fw-fr euchil_n 3._o c._n 23._o ditis_fw-la ante_fw-la lateranense_n concilium_fw-la non_fw-la fuisse_fw-la dogma_fw-la fidei_fw-la transubstantiationem_fw-la â—_o rhem._n an_n not_o upon_o the_o 1._o of_o tim._n 6._o â—â—_o and_o yet_o we_o be_v condemn_v for_o call_v 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sea_n that_o have_v any_o business_n concurrant_fw-la business_n antiochenum_fw-la council_n â—_o sub_fw-la â—ulio_n can_v 9_o ad_fw-la metropolin_n omnes_fw-la undique_fw-la qui_fw-la negotia_fw-la videntur_fw-la habere_fw-la concurrant_fw-la and_o who_o can_v perceive_v any_o other_o thing_n in_o irenaeus_n for_o he_o do_v not_o as_o the_o jesuite_n interpret_v he_o make_v all_o church_n to_o agree_v with_o the_o roman_a for_o her_o more_o powerful_a principality_n but_o show_v that_o all_o faithful_a man_n from_o all_o part_n of_o the_o world_n come_v to_o rome_n in_o regard_n it_o be_v the_o imperial_a seat_n may_v learn_v what_o scripture_n be_v deliver_v by_o the_o apostle_n peter_n and_o paul_n in_o regard_n at_o that_o time_n in_o this_o father_n judgement_n they_o be_v there_o conserve_v by_o the_o church_n and_o so_o chrysostome_n in_o like_a manner_n do_v attribute_n to_o the_o city_n of_o antioch_n the_o title_n of_o the_o great_a city_n the_o metropolis_n of_o the_o 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father_n for_o the_o catholic_a roman_a mother_n as_o their_o pope_n do_v a_o fictitious_a canon_n for_o the_o catholic_a roman_a father_n 6_o father_n council_n carthag_n 6_o yet_o i_o wonder_v all_o these_o pain_n shall_v be_v take_v when_o the_o headship_n of_o the_o church_n may_v by_o a_o general_a council_n be_v take_v from_o the_o roman_a and_o give_v to_o any_o other_o as_o cameracensis_n 380._o cameracensis_n camerace_n nsis_fw-la in_o vesp_n aâ—_n 3_o pag._n 380._o affirm_v his_o next_o evidence_n be_v the_o general_a council_n of_o chalcedon_n where_o paschasinus_n and_o other_o father_n assemble_v there_o do_v manifest_o declare_v the_o pope_n to_o be_v caput_fw-la universalis_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la heal_n of_o the_o church_n universal_a 5â—_n universal_a reply_v pag._n 5â—_n the_o jesuite_n shall_v have_v forsake_v this_o for_o fear_n of_o loss_n for_o sure_o it_o be_v no_o otherwise_o then_o they_o give_v it_o to_o the_o church_n of_o constantinople_n which_o at_o that_o 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city_n institut_fw-la l._n â—_o de_fw-fr satisdat_fw-fr §_o ult._n whereby_o it_o appear_v that_o the_o title_n of_o head_n be_v give_v to_o many_o person_n and_o place_n for_o their_o excellency_n in_o some_o kind_n or_o other_o and_o not_o for_o their_o supremacy_n beside_o this_o to_o any_o that_o will_v view_v the_o council_n it_o will_v evident_o appear_v that_o the_o roman_a bishop_n be_v consider_v as_o than_o he_o appear_v in_o the_o council_n by_o his_o legate_n and_o not_o as_o he_o be_v in_o his_o private_a chair_n and_o be_v repute_v head_n of_o the_o church_n not_o in_o regard_n of_o his_o sea_n or_o succession_n but_o because_o he_o do_v presede_v by_o his_o legate_n that_o church_n representative_a which_o be_v there_o gather_v together_o as_o cyrill_n be_v head_n of_o the_o ephesine_n protulerunt_fw-la ephesine_n council_n ephesiâ—_n apud_fw-la binn_n in_o epistola_fw-la ad_fw-la imperator_fw-la tom_fw-mi in_o act_n council_n 〈◊〉_d cap._n 8._o quia_fw-la inquam_fw-la 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otherwise_o nâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d sensum_fw-la habemus_fw-la they_o can_v espy_v error_n there_o as_o well_o as_o in_o any_o other_o less_o eminent_a church_n but_o he_o tell_v we_o this_o agreement_n in_o communion_n with_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v in_o those_o primitive_a time_n hold_v for_o a_o infallible_a mark_n of_o true_a faith_n aâ—_n appeder_v most_o plain_o by_o that_o which_o s._n ambrose_n relate_v of_o his_o brother_n satyrus_n 52_o satyrus_n reply_v pag._n 52_o it_o appear_v plain_o that_o the_o jesuite_n shoot_v at_o rover_n not_o at_o the_o mark_n otherwise_o he_o will_v not_o produce_v a_o matter_n of_o fact_n knit_v to_o time_n and_o occasion_n to_o prove_v a_o thing_n absolute_o and_o without_o dependence_n satyrus_n will_v not_o communicate_v in_o the_o dread_a mystery_n of_o the_o eucharist_n but_o by_o the_o hand_n of_o a_o catholic_a bishop_n opposite_a to_o the_o luciferian_o who_o be_v schismatickes_n at_o that_o time_n and_o to_o that_o purpose_n call_v a_o 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expound_v satyrus_n his_o catholic_a bishop_n by_o the_o roman_a church_n the_o jesuite_n come_v now_o to_o his_o last_o proof_n from_o restaring_a of_o bishop_n put_v out_o of_o their_o bishopric_n to_o conclude_v his_o papal_a monarchy_n and_o bring_v we_o only_o one_o example_n and_o that_o but_o a_o attempt_n only_o viz_o â—_o of_o athanasius_n patriarch_n of_o alexandria_n paulus_n archbishop_n of_o constantinople_n marcellus_n bishop_n of_o ancyra_n asclepas_n bishop_n of_o gaza_n and_o lucianus_n bishop_n of_o hadrianople_n who_o be_v all_o patriarch_n and_o prelate_n of_o the_o east_n church_n and_o expel_v from_o their_o place_n even_o by_o counsel_n of_o other_o bishop_n come_v unto_o rome_n complain_v unto_o pope_n julius_n of_o their_o wrong_n and_o be_v by_o he_o right_v and_o restore_v as_o witness_v sozomenus_n &c_n &c_n â—â—_o &c_n reply_v pag_n â—â—_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n be_v a_o man_n of_o great_a authority_n in_o regard_n of_o the_o imperial_a city_n whereof_o he_o be_v bishop_n and_o much_o he_o may_v do_v by_o persuasion_n advice_n and_o by_o the_o assistance_n of_o the_o imperial_a power_n yet_o all_o this_o will_v not_o conclude_v he_o the_o monarch_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n and_o what_o do_v julius_n more_o than_o the_o archbishop_n of_o canterbuâ—y_n ought_v to_o do_v upon_o the_o like_a occasion_n he_o discuss_v the_o crime_n of_o every_o one_o â—â—_o one_o reply_v pag._n â—â—_o and_o good_a reason_n for_o a_o good_a man_n ought_v to_o know_v the_o cause_n he_o will_v patronize_v much_o more_o a_o good_a bishop_n he_o do_v receive_v they_o into_o his_o communion_n find_v that_o they_o all_o do_v agree_v to_o the_o nicene_n council_n ibid._n council_n reply_v ibid._n can_v he_o have_v do_v otherwise_o without_o blame_n as_o one_o that_o have_v care_n of_o all_o by_o reason_n of_o the_o dignity_n of_o his_o see_n he_o do_v restore_v to_o every_o of_o they_o their_o own_o church_n write_v also_o to_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o east_n etc._n etc._n ibid._n etc._n reply_v ibid._n and_o what_o make_v he_o so_o confident_a of_o his_o power_n his_o monarchy_n sure_o no_o but_o because_o he_o be_v the_o emperors_n chaplain_n and_o therefore_o may_v expect_v to_o be_v gracious_o assist_v by_o his_o lord_n and_o that_o this_o be_v not_o a_o conjecture_n you_o may_v conceive_v in_o regard_n the_o bishop_n of_o the_o east_n make_v 53_o â—_o reply_v pag._n 53_o light_a of_o his_o restitution_n return_v he_o a_o answer_n full_a of_o scorn_n and_o threat_n gravissimarum_fw-la threat_n sozomen_n hist_o eccles_n l_o 3._o 2_o 7._o athanasi_n â—s_v autem_fw-la &_o paulus_n ad_fw-la svas_fw-la sedes_fw-la revertuntur_fw-la literasque_fw-la julit_fw-la episcopis_fw-la orientis_fw-la mittunt_fw-la quibus_fw-la illi_fw-la graviter_fw-la commoti_fw-la conveniunt_fw-la antiochiae_fw-la in_o unum_fw-la &_o epistolam_fw-la verbis_fw-la elegantibus_fw-la ornatam_fw-la &_o disertè_fw-la ut_fw-la â—heto_fw-la rum_o mos_fw-la sert_fw-la compositam_fw-la ad_fw-la julium_n scribunt_fw-la eamque_fw-la plenam_fw-la ironiae_fw-la &_o minarum_fw-la non_fw-la expertem_fw-la gravissimarum_fw-la neither_o be_v he_o ever_o able_a to_o bring_v to_o pass_v what_o he_o determine_v whilst_o he_o use_v his_o own_o power_n for_o they_o disdain_v that_o the_o greatness_n of_o his_o bishopprickâ—_n shall_v make_v they_o his_o inferior_n retulit_fw-la inferior_n ibid-indignati_a sunt_fw-la se_fw-la posteriores_fw-la ideo_fw-la far_o quòd_fw-la magnitudine_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la superarentur_fw-la sozomen_n hist_o eccle_n l._n 3._o c._n 9_o at_o cum_fw-la literis_fw-la apud_fw-la â—piscopos_fw-fr orientis_fw-la de_fw-fr rebus_fw-la propter_fw-la quas_fw-la scripsisset_fw-la nihil_fw-la proficeret_fw-la causam_fw-la aâ—hanasij_n &_o pauli_n ad_fw-la constantem_fw-la retulit_fw-la and_o therefore_o he_o solicit_v his_o lord_n by_o who_o authority_n they_o be_v restore_v 〈◊〉_d restore_v sozomen_n hist_o eccles_n l._n 3._o c._n 1â—_n conâ—tans_fw-la autem_fw-la rebuâ—_n gestis_fw-la in_o concilio_fw-la sardicensi_fw-la cognitis_fw-la scripsit_fw-la ad_fw-la fratrem_fw-la constantium_fw-la literas_fw-la uti_fw-la athanasio_fw-la &_o paulo_n ecclesias_fw-la svas_fw-la redderet_fw-la vbi_fw-la uâ—â—o_fw-la intellexit_fw-la fratrem_fw-la diem_fw-la de_fw-la die_fw-la ducere_fw-la scripâ—iâ—_n denuo_fw-la ut_fw-la vel_fw-la viros_fw-la istos_fw-la reciperet_fw-la vel_fw-la se_fw-la ad_fw-la bellum_fw-la gerendum_fw-la pararet_fw-la constantius_n igiâ—ur_fw-fr cùm_fw-la de_fw-fr linere_fw-la cum_fw-la episcopis_fw-la orientis_fw-la communâ—casset_fw-la stultum_fw-la putavit_fw-la obâ—eam_fw-la causam_fw-la bellum_fw-la civil_a &_o intestmum_fw-la suscipere_fw-la quo_fw-la quidem_fw-la concilio_fw-la inductus_fw-la athanasiuâ—_n ex_fw-la itaâ—â—_n acceâ—sit_fw-la &_o cap._n 20._o imperator_fw-la autem_fw-la dimittit_fw-la athanasium_fw-la in_o aegyptum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d â—â—â—â—â—_o literas_fw-la cùm_fw-la ad_fw-la episcopos_fw-la et_fw-la presbyteto_n cujusque_fw-la civitatis_fw-la tùm_fw-la ad_fw-la populum_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la alexandrinae_n quibus_fw-la et_fw-la vitam_fw-la ejus_fw-la piè_fw-la actam_fw-la et_fw-la probitaâ—em_fw-la morum_fw-la commendaviâ—_n 〈◊〉_d cohortatus_fw-la est_fw-la uti_fw-la ei_fw-la utpote_fw-la svo_fw-la antistiti_fw-la pâ—rentâ—_n precibuse_v oraâ—ionibus_fw-la 〈◊〉_d reilgioâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d and_o now_o the_o jesuite_n have_v finish_v his_o testimony_n conclude_v for_o the_o papal_a crown_n how_o far_o now_o may_v we_o think_v do_v our_o answerer_n swarve_v from_o the_o ancient_a fathere_n pastor_n and_o saint_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n while_o he_o by_o a_o separation_n from_o that_o church_n which_o they_o acknowledge_v to_o be_v their_o head_n and_o themselves_o to_o be_v member_n thereof_o fail_v to_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o true_a body_n of_o christ_n or_o one_o of_o his_o true_a flock_n forasmuch_o as_o he_o withdraweth_a himself_o from_o the_o true_a confess_v pastor_n and_o what_o wonder_v then_o that_o he_o shall_v dissipate_v and_o destroy_v all_o true_a faith_n and_o doctrine_n &c_n &c_n 53._o &c_n reply_v pag._n 53._o it_o be_v clear_a that_o the_o most_o learned_a answerer_n have_v with_o the_o church_n that_o he_o by_o god_n providence_n govern_v not_o swarve_v from_o the_o ancient_a father_n pastor_n and_o saint_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n much_o less_o make_v a_o separation_n from_o the_o ancient_a church_n how_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v
edita_fw-la â—â—gua_fw-la sed_fw-la visum_fw-la est_fw-la 318._o patribus_fw-la sancto_fw-la spiritu_fw-la repletis_fw-la in_o praeâ—â—â—â—o_fw-la concilio_n congregatis_fw-la &_o maximè_fw-la jam_fw-la dicto_fw-la alexandro_n &_o apostolicae_fw-la sedis_fw-la apoâ—â—â—sarijs_fw-la ut_fw-la decem_fw-la capitula_fw-la a_o dunarentur_fw-la alijs_fw-la atque_fw-la congruis_fw-la locis_fw-la inscrerentur_fw-la &_o ad_fw-la forâ—â—â—_n septuaginta_fw-la discipulorum_fw-la vel_fw-la potius_fw-la totius_fw-la orbis_fw-la terrae_fw-la linguarum_fw-la sepungiâ—â—â—_n discipulorum_fw-la &_o tam_fw-la excellentis_fw-la concilij_fw-la fierent_fw-la capitula_fw-la and_o if_o these_o be_v not_o sufficient_a to_o mark_v out_o a_o impostor_n let_v we_o hear_v what_o their_o own_o speak_v and_o you_o shall_v find_v bellarmine_n account_v they_o both_o viz._n athanasius_n his_o epistle_n and_o mark_v â—â—â—_o script_n supposititious_a supposititiâ—s_fw-la supposititious_a bellarm._n de_fw-fr scriptor_n eccles_n ut_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d de_fw-fr epistolis_fw-la athanasi_n ad_fw-la marcum_fw-la papam_fw-la &_o marci_n papâ—_n ad_fw-la athanasium_fw-la 〈◊〉_d extratione_fw-la temporis_fw-la â—â—â—_o epistolas_fw-la esse_fw-la supposititiâ—s_fw-la baronius_n take_v they_o as_o commentitious_a and_o forge_a by_o certain_a well-willer_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n 〈◊〉_d church_n baron_fw-fr tom_fw-mi 3._o ad_fw-la a_o 336_o 〈◊〉_d â—â—_o 59_o &_o â—â—_o 〈◊〉_d ille_fw-la 〈◊〉_d architectur_n bene_fw-la esse_fw-la consultum_fw-la assertion_n 〈◊〉_d &_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d de_fw-fr nicâ—â—o_n canone_o extra_fw-la numerum_fw-la vicentarium_fw-la allegatum_fw-la hoâ—â—â—â—â—â—â—â—_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d qui_fw-la ignoravit_fw-la ex_fw-la apertissimâ—_n veritate_fw-la solutionem_fw-la 〈◊〉_d for_o the_o second_o epistle_n to_o felix_n â—_o felix_n reply_v pag._n â—_o if_o we_o observe_v what_o the_o jesuite_n urge_v out_o of_o he_o unless_o we_o be_v wilful_o perverse_a we_o can_v think_v athanasius_n and_o the_o bishop_n of_o egypt_n to_o be_v so_o far_o from_o sense_n as_o this_o epistle_n make_v he_o that_o they_o dare_v not_o presume_v to_o yield_v to_o the_o error_n of_o their_o enemy_n the_o arrian_n without_o acquaint_v the_o pope_n therewithal_o as_o if_o with_o his_o dispensation_n they_o may_v adhere_v to_o any_o corruption_n whatsoever_o beside_o the_o rescript_n to_o this_o epistle_n be_v date_v agario_fw-la &_o juliano_n cass_n conciliorum_fw-la cass_n vide_fw-la rescriptum_fw-la hujusmodi_fw-la apud_fw-la biâ—â—ium_fw-la tom_fw-mi 1._o conciliorum_fw-la when_o as_o never_o any_o that_o do_v number_v the_o roman_a consul_n do_v make_v mention_n of_o agarius_fw-la and_o also_o the_o rescript_n declare_v what_o we_o may_v conceive_v both_o of_o it_o and_o the_o epistle_n of_o athanasius_n to_o wit_n that_o they_o be_v of_o no_o better_a stamp_n than_o the_o decretal_a epistle_n the_o latter_a part_n of_o the_o rescript_n be_v take_v out_o of_o the_o latter_a part_n of_o the_o epistle_n of_o felix_n the_o first_o to_o the_o bishop_n of_o frannce_n and_o to_o close_o up_o this_o binnius_n will_v tell_v this_o jesuite_n that_o the_o epistle_n itself_o be_v of_o suspect_a birth_n both_o from_o the_o time_n when_o it_o be_v write_v and_o other_o circumstance_n reddat_fw-la circumstance_n bin._n tom_n 1._o council_n in_o 〈◊〉_d in_o epist_n athanasij_n &c._n &c._n ad_fw-la felicem_fw-la &_o felicis_fw-la ad_fw-la atha_n haec_fw-la epistola_fw-la sub_fw-la nomine_fw-la athanasij_n ad_fw-la felicem_fw-la ex_fw-la synodo_fw-la alexandâ—â—na_fw-la scripta_fw-la ab_fw-la episcopis_fw-la â—â—gypti_fw-la thebâ—â—dis_fw-la &_o lybiae_n de_fw-la fide_fw-la suspecta_fw-la est_fw-la tum_fw-la quod_fw-la hoc_fw-la tempore_fw-la quâ—_n athanasius_n â—â—ga_fw-la clapsus_fw-la in_o cremo_fw-la latitabat_fw-la 〈◊〉_d â—â—â—_o liberio_n 〈◊〉_d episcopi_fw-la orthodoxi_fw-la decrâ—â—_n imperatoris_fw-la &_o 〈◊〉_d 〈…〉_o quod_fw-la hunc_fw-la epistola_fw-la ad_fw-la 〈◊〉_d scripta_fw-la ipsum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d de_fw-la sva_fw-la ipsi_fw-la â—â—â—_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d reddat_fw-la and_o baronius_n do_v also_o disparage_v this_o epistle_n and_o deride_v the_o merchant_n that_o make_v use_v of_o such_o baggage_n commodity_n 〈◊〉_d commodity_n baron_fw-fr annal._n tom_n â—_o ad_fw-la annum_fw-la 217._o â—â—â—_o 66._o quae_fw-la fertur_fw-la athanasij_n nomine_fw-la ad_fw-la felicem_fw-la romanum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d ex_fw-la synido_fw-la alexandrina_n scripta_fw-la haâ—d_a aeque_fw-la probatur_fw-la etc._n etc._n at_o ipse_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d from_o whence_o we_o may_v see_v how_o this_o jesuite_n be_v void_a of_o all_o shame_n who_o as_o if_o he_o have_v hit_v the_o eagle_n on_o the_o eye_n do_v not_o only_o produce_v these_o counterfeits_n but_o swell_v with_o impudency_n in_o his_o wont_a manner_n of_o rail_v bitter_o revile_v the_o answerer_n for_o just_o tell_v he_o that_o the_o good_a father_n assemble_v in_o that_o synod_n never_o dream_v of_o such_o a_o business_n nor_o establish_v any_o such_o decree_n or_o canon_n at_o all_o behold_v here_o say_v he_o how_o precise_o this_o holy_a father_n do_v allege_v the_o canon_n and_o decree_n of_o the_o nicene_n council_n for_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n and_o for_o her_o absolute_a supremacy_n over_o all_o other_o christian_a church_n throughâ—â—_n the_o world_n and_o what_o will_v not_o our_o adversary_n venture_v to_o say_v and_o do_v against_o the_o catholic_a truth_n when_o as_o they_o stick_v not_o with_o brazen_a face_n to_o avouch_v that_o the_o good_a father_n assemble_v in_o that_o synod_n never_o dream_v oâ—_n such_o a_o business_n etc._n etc._n but_o i_o leave_v it_o to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o unpartial_a reader_n to_o determine_v whether_o the_o abovesaid_a testimony_n of_o s._n athanasini_n give_v but_o twenty_o year_n or_o thereabouts_o after_o the_o say_a nicene_n council_n do_v not_o sufficient_o bruise_v and_o hurt_v their_o face_n of_o brass_n and_o force_v they_o to_o swallow_v down_o again_o their_o enormous_a untruth_n and_o calumniation_n 59_o calumniation_n reply_v pag._n 59_o here_o we_o may_v see_v a_o discourse_n fit_a for_o a_o jesuite_n all_o confidence_n â—â—t_v build_v upon_o no_o truth_n cardinal_n bellarmine_n confess_v the_o jesuites_n proof_n from_o the_o epistle_n of_o athanasius_n to_o pope_n mark_v and_o the_o rescript_n to_o athanasius_n to_o be_v unsound_a â—â—_o unsound_a bellarm._n de_fw-fr rom_n pontâ—â—_n l._n 2._o c_o 25._o quod_fw-la illi_fw-la â—anâ—nes_fw-la non_fw-la sunt_fw-la omnes_fw-la probant_fw-la nonâ—â—â—lti_fw-la ex_fw-la epistoâ—â—_n athanasij_n ad_fw-la marcum_fw-la papam_fw-la in_o quaâ—e_a tit_n exemplum_fw-la nicaeni_n concilij_fw-la ex_fw-la romani_fw-la pontificis_fw-la scrinio_fw-la 〈◊〉_d â—â—empla_fw-la quae_fw-la erant_fw-la alexandria_n fuisse_fw-la creâ—â—â—_n ab_fw-la ariaâ—â—â—_n sed_fw-la hoc_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—â—_o verè_fw-la non_fw-fr â—â—_o solidv_n â—â—_o and_o what_o sound_a evidence_n he_o have_v bring_v from_o his_o indian_a tale_n and_o the_o other_o epistle_n to_o felix_n have_v be_v declare_v so_o that_o the_o jesuite_n may_v consider_v that_o fures_fw-la clamorem_fw-la thief_n may_v sly_a from_o his_o voice_n but_o true_a man_n tremble_v not_o at_o the_o noise_n he_o may_v strain_v himself_o against_o brazen_a face_n enormous_a untruth_n calumniation_n but_o who_o do_v he_o wound_v but_o himself_o that_o among_o all_o the_o ancient_a father_n can_v bring_v one_o argument_n for_o these_o arabic_a canon_n but_o these_o false_a birth_n lie_v counter_a feit_z and_o yet_o do_v swagger_v triumph_n rage_n and_o swell_v against_o he_o that_o just_o putt_v desiance_n to_o his_o folly_n but_o leave_v these_o counterfeit_n the_o jesuite_n will_v â—â—â—swade_v we_o that_o he_o will_v proceed_v in_o lay_v down_o the_o judgâ—â—â—â—_n of_o the_o anncient_a father_n concern_v the_o derivation_n of_o s._n peterâ—_n supreme_a jurisdiction_n unto_o all_o his_o lawful_a successor_n in_o the_o roman_a see_v â—_o reply_v pag._n â—_o the_o jesuite_n do_v well_o to_o distinguish_v those_o that_o follow_v from_o those_o that_o in_o this_o point_n he_o have_v already_o allege_v but_o with_o who_o do_v he_o begin_v with_o he_o i_o suppose_v that_o will_v fail_v he_o when_o it_o come_v to_o trial_n and_o that_o be_v s._n augustine_n donati_n augustine_n augâ—in_v psal_n mum_o contra_fw-la partem_fw-la donati_n who_o express_v what_o the_o jesuite_n be_v to_o prove_v most_o plain_o reckon_v say_v he_o the_o priest_n even_o from_o peter_n seat_n and_o observe_v who_o to_o who_o have_v ever_o succeed_v in_o that_o rank_n of_o father_n that_o same_o be_v the_o rock_n which_o the_o proud_a gate_n of_o hell_n do_v not_o overcome_v â—â—_o overcome_v reply_v pag._n â—â—_o loe_o here_o say_v the_o jesuite_n s._n augustine_n make_v the_o very_a succession_n of_o bishop_n in_o the_o roman_a see_v that_o invincible_a rock_n upon_o which_o christ_n build_v his_o church_n forasmuch_o as_o it_o be_v ground_v in_o peter_n and_o thereby_o be_v partaker_n of_o the_o promise_n of_o christ_n that_o the_o gate_n of_o hell_n shall_v not_o prevail_v against_o it_o 59_o it_o reply_v pag._n 59_o s._n augustine_n speak_v nothing_o here_o to_o the_o jesuite_n purpose_n for_o he_o neither_o make_v peter_n the_o monarch_n of_o the_o church_n nor_o the_o pope_n his_o sole_a successor_n in_o that_o monarchy_n neither_o do_v s._n augustine_n as_o the_o jesuit_n affirm_v make_v the_o very_a succession_n
of_o bishop_n in_o the_o roman_a see_v that_o invincible_a rock_n upon_o which_o christ_n build_v his_o church_n for_o who_o will_v dream_v that_o father_n to_o esteem_v that_o present_a seat_n or_o succession_n to_o be_v the_o rock_n for_o any_o other_o reason_n then_o because_o they_o hold_v the_o rock_n confess_v by_o peter_n and_o in_o this_o sense_n not_o only_a peter_n successor_n at_o rome_n but_o all_o other_o successor_n of_o peter_n &_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n may_v bestile_v rock_n retor_n rock_n origen_n in_o math_n hom_n 1._o petra_n est_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d omnis_fw-la qui_fw-la imitator_n est_fw-la christi_fw-la ex_fw-la quo_fw-la bibebant_fw-la qui_fw-la bibebant_fw-la de_fw-fr spiritali_fw-la consequenti_fw-la petra_fw-la et_fw-la super_fw-la omni_fw-la hujusmodi_fw-la petra_fw-la aedificatur_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la dei_fw-la in_o singulis_fw-la enim_fw-la quibuscunque_fw-la perfectis_fw-la qui_fw-la habent_fw-la in_o se_fw-la congregationem_fw-la verborum_fw-la &_o oâ—erum_fw-la &_o sensuum_fw-la omnium_fw-la qui_fw-la hujusmodi_fw-la beatitudinem_fw-la operantur_fw-la 〈◊〉_d eccelesia_n dei_fw-la cvi_fw-la porte_fw-fr non_fw-la praevalent_a inserorum_fw-la si_fw-mi autem_fw-la â—per_fw-la unum_fw-la illum_fw-la petrum_fw-la arbitraris_fw-la vniversam_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la aedificari_fw-la à _fw-la deo_fw-la quid_fw-la dicis_fw-la de_fw-la jacobo_n &_o johanne_n filijs_fw-la tonitrui_fw-la vel_fw-la de_fw-la singulis_fw-la apostolis_n vere_n ergo_fw-la ad_fw-la petrum_fw-la quidem_fw-la dictum_fw-la est_fw-la â—u_n es_fw-la petrus_n etc._n etc._n tamen_fw-la omnibus_fw-la apostolis_n &_o omnibus_fw-la quibuscunque_fw-la perfectis_fw-la fidelibus_fw-la dictum_fw-la viâ—â—_n retor_n for_o why_o may_v not_o those_o church_n that_o cleave_v fast_o to_o the_o rock_n of_o faith_n be_v call_v rock_n to_o stay_v and_o adhere_v unto_o praestant_fw-la unto_o iranaeus_n l._n 4._o c._n 43._o ijs_fw-la qui_fw-la in_o ecclesijs_fw-la sure_a presbyteris_fw-la oporter_fw-la obaudire_fw-la qui_fw-la successionem_fw-la habent_fw-la ab_fw-la apostolis_n quicunque_fw-la cum_fw-la episcopatus_fw-la successione_n charisma_n veritatis_fw-la certum_fw-la secundùm_fw-la beneplacitum_fw-la patris_fw-la acceperunt_fw-la idem_fw-la c._n 44._o adherere_fw-la his_fw-la qui_fw-la &_o apostoloâ—um_fw-la doctrinam_fw-la oustodiunt_fw-la &_o cum_fw-la presbyterij_fw-la ordine_fw-la sermonem_fw-la sanum_fw-la &_o conversatio_fw-la nem_fw-la sine_fw-la offen_n sa_fw-it praestant_fw-la as_o well_o as_o the_o roman_a &_o her_o bishop_n in_o regard_n augustine_n say_v in_o that_o very_a psalm_n that_o if_o any_o man_n come_v full_a of_o the_o catholic_a faith_n we_o be_v wont_v to_o give_v ear_n unto_o he_o as_o unto_o these_o man_n audire_fw-la man_n august_n in_o psalm_n contra_fw-la partem_fw-la donati_n talis_fw-la si_fw-la quis_fw-la ad_fw-la te_fw-la veniat_fw-la plenus_fw-la catholica_fw-la side_n quales_fw-la illoâ—_n sanctos_fw-la viros_fw-la omâ—es_fw-la solemus_fw-la audire_fw-la but_o what_o make_v the_o former_a word_n to_o the_o jesuite_n conclusion_n do_v s._n augustine_n here_o declare_v roman_a priest_n successor_n to_o peter_n in_o a_o monarchical_a estate_n or_o such_o unmoveable_a ground_a rock_n that_o all_o the_o church_n in_o time_n to_o come_v must_v be_v ground_v upon_o they_o sure_o the_o sesuite_n will_v never_o find_v this_o to_o be_v s._n augustine_n meaning_n but_o from_o what_o the_o roman_a priest_n have_v be_v and_o from_o what_o for_o the_o present_a they_o be_v allude_v to_o our_o savior_n word_n he_o do_v style_v they_o a_o rock_n that_o the_o gate_n of_o hell_n do_v not_o at_o that_o time_n prevail_v against_o make_v they_o a_o good_a directory_n to_o truth_n whilst_o they_o adhear_v to_o the_o apostle_n doctrine_n for_o by_o the_o course_n of_o that_o psalm_n we_o can_v conceive_v s._n augustine_n to_o have_v think_v otherwise_o in_o regard_n he_o do_v not_o give_v the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n power_n to_o end_n and_o determine_v that_o controversy_n but_o make_v donatus_n his_o request_n to_o have_v his_o cause_n hear_v at_o rome_n to_o be_v unjust_a tell_v we_o what_o the_o emperor_n have_v ordain_v that_o divers_a bishop_n &_o priest_n shall_v hear_v the_o matter_n &_o not_o the_o roman_a bishop_n alone_o audite_fw-la alone_o august_n ibid._n no_o donatus_n cùm_fw-la volebat_fw-la africam_fw-la totam_fw-la obtiâ—ere_fw-la tunc_fw-la judices_fw-la transmarinos_fw-la petijt_fw-la ab_fw-la imperatore_n sed_fw-la haectam_fw-la unjust_a petitio_fw-la non_fw-la erat_fw-la de_fw-fr charitate_fw-la ho_o ipsa_fw-la veritas_fw-la clamaâ—_fw-mi quam_fw-la uclo_fw-la modo_fw-la refeâ—e_fw-la nam_fw-la consensit_fw-la impeâ—â—â—or_fw-la â—â—â—â—t_fw-la quae_fw-la soderenâ—_n romae_fw-la sacerdotes_fw-la qui_fw-la tunc_fw-la possent_fw-la caeciliano_n cuâ—_n illâ—_n audite_fw-la which_o he_o will_v not_o have_v do_v i_o suppose_v if_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n have_v have_v that_o monarchy_n by_o apostolical_a succession_n which_o now_o they_o pretend_v by_o that_o title_n to_o enjoy_v but_o there_o be_v not_o a_o word_n of_o augustine_n that_o prove_v the_o roman_a bishop_n successor_n of_o peter_n in_o any_o office_n power_n or_o bishopric_n or_o so_o much_o as_o make_v he_o bishop_n of_o rome_n that_o he_o have_v his_o seat_n there_o where_o the_o roman_a priest_n have_v their_o succession_n he_o insinuate_v but_o in_o this_o place_n he_o tell_v we_o no_o more_o nor_o so_o much_o as_o eusebius_n who_o begin_v the_o roman_a bishop_n with_o linus_n est_fw-la linus_n eusebius_n hist_o eccles_n l._n 3._o c._n â—_o linus_n verò_fw-la primum_fw-la post_fw-la petri_n &_o pauli_n martyrium_fw-la romanae_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la episco_n patum_fw-la sorâ—iâ—ut_fw-la est_fw-la for_o the_o word_n of_o eusebius_n after_o the_o martyrdom_n of_o peter_n and_o paul_n can_v no_o more_o make_v peter_n bishop_n of_o rome_n than_o paul_n and_o i_o think_v they_o will_v not_o admit_v two_o bishop_n at_o once_o in_o one_o city_n much_o more_o may_v be_v urge_v to_o show_v that_o the_o jesuite_n have_v produce_v s._n augustine_n to_o testify_v that_o which_o he_o never_o think_v of_o but_o i_o will_v come_v to_o chrysostome_n who_o the_o jesuite_n produce_v expect_v much_o from_o he_o because_o he_o name_v peter_n successor_n why_o say_v he_o do_v christ_n shed_v his_o blood_n but_o to_o regain_v those_o sheep_n the_o care_n of_o who_o he_o commit_v both_o to_o peter_n and_o to_o peter_n successor_n 59_o successor_n reply_v pag._n 59_o i_o ask_v the_o jesuite_n whether_o he_o think_v the_o apostle_n have_v no_o commission_n from_o christ_n to_o have_v a_o care_n of_o his_o sheep_n whether_o go_v you_o into_o all_o the_o world_n and_o preach_v the_o gospel_n to_o every_o creature_n 15_o creature_n mark_v 16._o 15_o do_v command_v no_o care_n of_o christ_n flock_n or_o whether_o there_o be_v no_o successor_n of_o peter_n but_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n cardinal_n cusanus_fw-la can_v deny_v that_o all_o bishop_n be_v the_o successor_n of_o peter_n petri_n peter_n nich._n de_fw-fr cusa_n card._n l._n 2._o de_fw-fr concord_n cath_z c._n 13._o non_fw-la possumus_fw-la negare_fw-la omnes_fw-la episeopos_n esse_fw-la ejusdem_fw-la successores_fw-la scilicet_fw-la petri_n and_o s._n chrysostome_n in_o the_o very_a place_n cite_v by_o the_o jesuite_n express_v himself_o to_o be_v free_a from_o the_o conceit_n that_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n be_v s._n peter_n only_a successor_n for_o why_o shall_v he_o persuade_v basil_n to_o be_v mind_n full_a of_o his_o duty_n he_o be_v a_o bishop_n from_o this_o reason_n because_o christ_n say_v to_o peter_n love_v thou_o i_o feed_v my_o sheep_n and_o because_o the_o care_n of_o his_o sheep_n be_v commit_v to_o peter_n and_o his_o successor_n section_n successor_n see_v chrysostom_n testimony_n produce_v before_o in_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o section_n if_o he_o have_v not_o be_v one_o of_o they_o this_o title_n i_o have_v show_v before_o do_v belong_v to_o other_o bishop_n as_o well_o as_o roman_a neither_o be_v it_o deny_v by_o bellarmine_n himself_o apostolis_n himself_o bellarm_n de_fw-fr rom._n pont._n l._n â—_o c._n 23._o respondeo_fw-la in_o apostlatu_fw-la continâ—â—_n episcopatum_fw-la &_o episcope_n succedere_fw-la apostolis_n and_o therefore_o i_o may_v forbear_v here_o further_o to_o press_v it_o the_o next_o be_v leo_n but_o i_o shall_v not_o need_v to_o speak_v to_o that_o which_o be_v urge_v from_o hâ—m_n here_o in_o regard_n i_o shall_v have_v more_o occasion_n in_o the_o next_o section_n he_o love_v to_o be_v great_a and_o to_o make_v peter_n great_a than_o he_o shall_v be_v for_o his_o own_o sake_n as_o i_o have_v in_o some_o thing_n before_o declare_v &_o shall_v hereafter_o more_o full_o show_v yet_o all_o that_o he_o desire_v i_o suppose_v be_v not_o so_o great_a licentiousness_n as_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n desire_v and_o will_v have_v all_o to_o attribute_v unto_o himself_o now_o come_v the_o bishop_n of_o ravenna_n peter_n chrysologus_fw-la in_o his_o epistle_n to_o eutyches_n you_o be_v not_o much_o behold_v to_o that_o see_v that_o you_o shall_v bring_v a_o bishop_n from_o thence_o to_o give_v testimony_n for_o you_o but_o what_o say_v he_o we_o desire_v thou_o honourable_a brother_n that_o thou_o will_v listen_v dutiful_o unto_o those_o thing_n which_o
may_v fear_v he_o have_v lose_v this_o be_v all_o we_o find_v by_o the_o ancient_a in_o pasce_fw-la oves_fw-la and_o if_o the_o jesuite_n will_v permit_v it_o with_o patience_n beside_o the_o place_n former_o cite_v their_o own_o counterfeit_n that_o have_v a_o name_n of_o antiquity_n tell_v we_o that_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n receive_v honour_n &_o power_n in_o equal_a fellowship_n with_o peter_n acâ—â—â—erunt_fw-la peter_n anaâ—letus_fw-la ad_fw-la â—pisâ—_n italiae_n epist_n 2._o do_v 21._o c._n in_o â—oâ—o_fw-la teâ—â—â—m_fw-la â—â—eeti_fw-la verò_fw-la apostoli_fw-la â—â—m_fw-la codem_fw-la pâ—ri_fw-la consortio_fw-la honoâ—em_fw-la &_o potestatem_fw-la acâ—â—â—erunt_fw-la and_o ambrose_n will_v not_o favour_n rome_n so_o much_o though_o he_o rule_v at_o milan_n but_o that_o he_o will_v acknowledge_v that_o peter_n do_v not_o only_o receive_v the_o charge_n of_o they_o but_o himself_o and_o all_o bishopâ—_n receive_v it_o with_o peter_n omnes_fw-la peter_n ambros_n de_fw-fr dignit_fw-la sacerd_v â—_o â—_o pasce_fw-la oveâ—â—eat_fw-la quas_fw-la oves_fw-la &_o quem_fw-la â—â—â—gem_fw-la noâ—â—â—lum_fw-la tunc_fw-la 〈◊〉_d susceâ—it_fw-la petrâ—s_fw-la feed_v et_fw-la cum_fw-la illo_fw-la â—â—s_o noâ—_n susceâ—imus_fw-la omnes_fw-la and_o as_o they_o receive_v the_o commission_n with_o peter_n so_o likewise_o do_v they_o perform_v the_o work_n for_o so_o say_v your_o roman_a clergy_n christ_n say_v thâ—â—_n unto_o simon_n love_v thou_o i_o he_o answer_v i_o love_v thou_o he_o say_v unto_o he_o fâ—ede_v my_o lamb_n we_o know_v this_o word_n be_v perform_v by_o the_o very_a act_n of_o peter_n obedience_n and_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o disciple_n do_v so_o likewise_o 〈◊〉_d likewise_o epist_n cleri_fw-la rom._n ad_fw-la clerum_fw-la carth._n apud_fw-la cyprian_n epist_n 3._o sed_fw-la et_fw-la simoni_n fie_o dicit_fw-la diligiâ—_n i_o â—â—spondit_fw-fr diligo_fw-la â—â—_o ei_fw-la pasce_fw-la oves_fw-la hoâ—_n verbum_fw-la factum_fw-la ex_fw-la actu_fw-la ipso_fw-la quo_fw-la cessit_fw-la cognoscimus_fw-la eâ—_n eâ—teri_fw-la discipuli_fw-la similiter_fw-la 〈◊〉_d yea_o this_o be_v acknowledge_v by_o cyprian_a for_o a_o common_a duty_n and_o no_o particular_a prerogative_n of_o peter_n all_o the_o apostle_n be_v paster_n but_o the_o flock_n be_v show_v to_o be_v one_o which_o be_v feed_v of_o all_o the_o apostle_n with_o a_o unanimous_a consent_n pascatur_fw-la consent_n cyprian_a de_fw-fr unitate_fw-la eccles_n eâ—_n 〈◊〉_d â—unt_n 〈◊〉_d sed_fw-la grex_fw-la 〈◊〉_d ostenditur_fw-la qui_fw-la ab_fw-la apostolis_n omnibus_fw-la 〈◊〉_d consensioâ—â—_n pascatur_fw-la and_o therefore_o gregory_n from_o this_o place_n do_v argue_v that_o they_o fail_v of_o love_n to_o christ_n that_o perform_v not_o this_o duty_n of_o feed_v the_o flock_n whosoever_o say_v he_o be_v endue_v with_o gift_n refuse_v to_o â—eede_v the_o lord_n flock_v be_v convince_v not_o to_o love_v the_o chief_a pastor_n aâ—â—râ—_n pastor_n gregor_n l._n 1_o de_fw-la cura_fw-la past_o c_o 5._o si_fw-mi diligis_fw-la i_o paâ—ce_fw-la oves_fw-la meâ—â—_n si_fw-mi ergo_fw-la dilectionis_fw-la est_fw-la testimonium_fw-la cura_fw-la pastonis_fw-la cuique_fw-la virâ—â—tibus_fw-la pollâ—â—_n gregem_fw-la dei_fw-la pascere_fw-la 〈◊〉_d it_o pastorem_fw-la 〈◊〉_d convincitur_fw-la non_fw-la aâ—â—râ—_n neither_o do_v the_o other_o place_n luc._n 22._o in_o the_o â—â—dgment_n of_o the_o ancient_n make_v s._n peter_n otherwise_o then_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n for_o say_v ignatius_n christ_n pray_v that_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o apostle_n shall_v not_o fail_v postolorum_fw-la fail_v ignatius_n ad_fw-la smyrnen_n epistola_fw-la â—_o dominus_fw-la jesus_n châ—â—stus_n rogaviâ—_n ne_o deficâ—ret_a fidâ—â—_n a_o postolorum_fw-la and_o clemene_n tell_v we_o that_o christ_n even_o now_o say_v as_o in_o time_n â—ast_v when_o we_o be_v gather_v together_o i_o have_v ask_v that_o tour_n faith_n shall_v not_o fail_v vestra_fw-la fail_v clemens_n constitut_o l._n 6._o c._n â—_o hic_fw-la dicet_fw-la &_o nunc_fw-la sicut_fw-la &_o antea_fw-la nobis_fw-la in_o unum_fw-la congregatis_fw-la de_fw-la nobis_fw-la aiebat_fw-la rogavi_fw-la ne_fw-la deficiaâ—â—â—des_fw-la vestra_fw-la and_o augustine_n read_v these_o word_n in_o that_o manner_n that_o it_o conclude_v all_o the_o apostle_n i_o have_v pray_v for_o you_o that_o your_o faith_n fail_v not_o vestra_fw-la not_o augustin_n de_fw-fr verbis_fw-la domiâ—i_fw-la in_o luc._n ser_n 36._o igo_n rogavi_fw-la pâ—trem_fw-la pro_fw-la vobâ—â—_n ne_fw-la deficiat_fw-la â—_o des_fw-fr vestra_fw-la whereby_o the_o jesuite_n may_v see_v that_o these_o text_n in_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n make_v not_o peter_n to_o be_v as_o he_o will_v persuade_v constitute_v head_n of_o the_o church_n upon_o earth_n and_o consequent_o neither_o prince_n chief_z captain_n head_n leader_n and_o prelate_n over_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n with_o such_o sovereign_a power_n as_o be_v pretend_v what_o 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privilege_n of_o the_o unspotted_a crucifix_n â—_o non_fw-fr enim_fw-la turbari_fw-la te_fw-la con_fw-mi venâ—â—_n cùm_fw-la audicris_fw-la quia_fw-la tratar_n &_o crucifix_n integrity_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n upon_o the_o promise_n of_o christ_n to_o peter_n matt_n 16._o so_o also_o they_o oftentimes_o deduce_v the_o same_o from_o the_o virtue_n of_o that_o prayer_n which_o christ_n make_v to_o his_o father_n for_o peter_n faith_n that_o it_o shall_v never_o fail_v luc_n 22._o wherein_o doubtless_o he_o be_v hear_v for_o his_o reverence_n heb._n 5._o 7._o â—â—_o reply_v pag._n â—â—_o there_o be_v no_o ground_n why_o the_o roman_a shall_v enjoy_v this_o privilege_n either_o from_o christ_n promise_n or_o his_o prayer_n &_o as_o the_o jesuite_n have_v fail_v in_o deduce_v any_o thing_n from_o the_o former_a so_o do_v he_o show_v his_o ability_n in_o this_o latter_a at_o his_o first_o entrance_n for_o first_o he_o bring_v in_o forge_a epistle_n under_o the_o name_n of_o lucius_n 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approbat_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—â—â—centi_fw-la triginta_fw-la episcopâ—_n id_fw-la vero_fw-la quod_fw-la instigante_fw-la anatolio_fw-la constantinopolitaâ—â—_n antistite_fw-la ambiciose_fw-la absentibus_fw-la &_o possea_o contradicentibus_fw-la segatis_fw-la de_fw-la primatur_fw-la 〈◊〉_d constantinopolitanae_n contra_fw-la decreta_fw-la 〈…〉_o dem_fw-ge secundum_fw-la 〈…〉_o quam_fw-la s._n leo_n rom._n â—ex_n plane_n in_o probavit_fw-la cassa_fw-mi vit_fw-mi atque_fw-la irritum_fw-la reddidiâ—â—â—_n â—eply_n pag._n 66._o bellarm._n de_fw-fr sacram_fw-la conâ—â—â—_n l._n 2._o c._n x._o epistolae_fw-la 〈…〉_o apud_fw-la nonnullos_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ve_fw-la 〈◊〉_d supposititiâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d non_fw-la sit_fw-la certain_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d quorum_fw-la nomina_fw-la praeserunti_fw-la so_o that_o if_o you_o have_v no_o better_a argument_n than_o leo_n his_o appetite_n to_o magnify_v rome_n and_o to_o free_v it_o from_o spot_n it_o be_v but_o a_o poor_a and_o tender_a 〈◊〉_d for_o we_o deny_v not_o christ_n 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fecisse_fw-la aiunt_fw-la bellarmine_n sacriâ—â—casse_n bellarmine_n bellarm_n recognit_fw-la l._n the_o 〈◊〉_d pont._n p._n 20._o concessimus_fw-la s._n marcellinum_n idolâ—â—_n sacriâ—â—casse_n and_o report_v by_o a_o council_n of_o their_o friend_n make_v sinâ—essa_n civitatem_fw-la sinâ—essa_n council_n sinuessanum_fw-la ecce_fw-la introierunt_fw-la testes_fw-la 14._o qui_fw-la dicebant_fw-la se_fw-la marcellinum_n vidisse_fw-la in_o temple_n veâ—ta_n &_o 〈◊〉_d thuâ—ificantem_fw-la ibid._n in_o sinu_fw-la autem_fw-la trecenrorum_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la caputeinere_fw-la convolutum_fw-la marcellinus_n episcopus_fw-la vrbis_fw-la romae_fw-la voce_fw-la clarâ_fw-la 〈◊〉_d dicebat_fw-la peccavi_fw-la coram_fw-la vobis_fw-la &_o non_fw-la possum_fw-la in_o ordine_fw-la sacerdotum_fw-la esse_fw-la quoniam_fw-la 〈◊〉_d i_o corrupit_fw-la auro_fw-la subscripserunt_fw-la autem_fw-la in_o ejus_fw-la damnationem_fw-la &_o damnaverunt_fw-la â—â—â—_o exâ—â—â—_n civitatem_fw-la by_o pope_n nicholas_n the_o first_o est_fw-la first_o nicholaus_fw-la â—_o ad_fw-la michael_n imperator_fw-la epist_n â—_o tempore_fw-la dioclesiam_n &_o maximiani_n augustorum_n marcellinus_n episcopus_fw-la urbin_n romae_fw-la adeo_fw-la 〈◊〉_d est_fw-la à _fw-la paganis_fw-la ut_fw-la in_o tempâ—â—â—_n eorum_fw-la ingressus_fw-la grana_fw-la thuris_fw-la super_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d cujus_fw-la nei_fw-la gratia_fw-la collecto_fw-la numerosorum_fw-mi concilio_n episcoporum_fw-la &_o inquisitione_n facta_fw-la hoc_fw-la se_fw-la idem_fw-la pontifex_fw-la egisse_fw-la confessus_fw-la est_fw-la platina_n adoravit_fw-la platina_n platina_n de_fw-fr vita_fw-la
amend_v which_o be_v scarce_o espy_v in_o their_o time_n how_o do_v every_o council_n disgrace_v the_o knowledge_n grace_n and_o courage_n of_o former_a father_n and_o bishop_n if_o the_o amend_v of_o thing_n amiss_o may_v conclude_v the_o same_o 〈◊〉_d same_o augustin_n â—_o â—apt_v con_fw-mi donat_n c._n 3._o ipsaque_fw-la plenaria_fw-la saepè_fw-la priora_fw-la à _fw-la posterioribâ—â—_n emeâ—dari_fw-la sine_fw-la 〈◊〉_d typho_n sacrilegae_fw-la superbiâ—_n sine_fw-la â—lla_fw-la inâ—â—â—tâ—cervice_n arrogantiae_fw-la sine_fw-la ulla_fw-la coâ—â—entione_n lividae_fw-la invidiâ—_n cu_z â—â—â—e_z catholic_a cum_fw-la charitate_fw-la 〈◊〉_d have_v not_o some_o of_o your_o brother_n find_v out_o new_a thought_n concern_v the_o bless_a virgin_n conception_n which_o will_v take_v away_o the_o harsh_a doctrine_n of_o the_o father_n and_o catholic_n of_o former_a time_n shall_v we_o think_v that_o these_o tumultuous_a upstart_n have_v therefore_o more_o knowledge_n grace_n or_o courage_n than_o those_o ancient_a father_n the_o whole_a catholic_a church_n little_o honour_n be_v give_v to_o the_o roman_a see_v before_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a 301._o aeneas_n sylu._n epist_n 301._o must_v we_o conclude_v that_o your_o after_o doctor_n have_v more_o knowledge_n grace_n or_o courage_n than_o the_o apostle_n and_o father_n before_o that_o council_n because_o they_o have_v wash_v and_o cure_v god_n church_n of_o so_o notorious_a a_o error_n i_o see_v the_o jesuite_n be_v of_o the_o cardinalis_fw-la 1._o matthee_o langi_n archbishop_z of_o salzburg_n hist_o con_fw-mi trigen_a l._n 1._o mind_n that_o do_v think_v the_o church_n shall_v be_v reform_v but_o not_o by_o a_o monk_n but_o they_o be_v popish_a thought_n to_o have_v the_o reformation_n or_o government_n of_o the_o church_n to_o depend_v upon_o man_n we_o have_v a_o rule_n leave_v by_o christ_n which_o as_o it_o be_v the_o rule_n to_o govern_v so_o to_o reform_v what_o by_o fraud_n or_o neglect_n have_v creep_v into_o the_o church_n amiss_o we_o acknowledge_v god_n have_v many_o instrument_n in_o the_o church_n but_o that_o which_o work_v reformation_n be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o although_o the_o instrument_n may_v have_v honour_n for_o the_o work_v sake_n yet_o it_o be_v the_o word_n not_o the_o instrument_n that_o effect_n the_o reformation_n why_o the_o jesuite_n shall_v term_v those_o learned_a man_n tumultuous_a upstart_n i_o can_v guess_v for_o i_o be_o sure_a they_o be_v as_o ancient_a as_o there_o order_n and_o for_o tumultuous_a practice_n who_o dare_v compare_v with_o jesuite_n for_o grand_a supplanter_n whereas_o the_o jesuite_n think_v to_o vilify_v they_o by_o his_o heap_n of_o invective_n they_o will_v appear_v true_a friend_n to_o the_o catholic_a church_n by_o grave_n and_o solid_a discourse_n plead_v her_o cause_n and_o contest_v for_o her_o right_n and_o i_o will_v know_v whether_o they_o have_v sin_v in_o be_v impatient_a of_o the_o church_n suffering_n any_o more_o than_o the_o counsel_n of_o basill_n and_o connstance_n who_o grieve_v to_o see_v a_o saracen_n head_n upon_o the_o church_n shoulder_n and_o therefore_o declare_v the_o church_n right_n and_o the_o pope_n usurpation_n condemn_v he_o with_o his_o foolish_a pretence_n haereticus_fw-la pretence_n council_n constane_n sess_n 4._o &_o 10._o council_n basil_n sess_v 12._o &_o 33._o veritas_fw-la de_fw-la potestate_fw-la concilij_fw-la generalis_fw-la universalem_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la repraesentantis_fw-la supra_fw-la papam_fw-la &_o queâ—libet_fw-la alterum_fw-la declarata_fw-la per_fw-la constantiense_n &_o hoc_fw-la basileense_fw-la generalia_fw-la concilia_fw-la est_fw-la veritas_fw-la fidei_fw-la catholicae_fw-la veritatibus_fw-la praedictis_fw-la pertinaciter_fw-la repugnans_fw-la est_fw-la confendus_fw-la haereticus_fw-la wherefore_o the_o jesuite_n may_v have_v leave_v this_o passion_n as_o be_v ground_v upon_o distemper_n and_o fury_n and_o have_v take_v his_o rabblement_n to_o himself_o and_o he_o to_o who_o true_o it_o belong_v but_o this_o jesuite_n will_v speak_v nothing_o without_o demonstration_n and_o therefore_o will_v show_v we_o to_o be_v a_o deform_v rather_o than_o a_o reform_a humour_n 73_o humour_n reply_v pag_n 73_o and_o this_o he_o will_v prove_v because_o first_o of_o all_o the_o prime_a stirrer_n of_o this_o stone_n martin_n luther_n have_v the_o gift_n to_o see_v in_o his_o omne_fw-la day_n such_o comfortable_a success_n herein_o as_o be_v answerable_a to_o his_o labour_n 〈◊〉_d labour_n reply_v 〈◊〉_d what_o be_v that_o the_o shake_n off_o the_o roman_a triple_a the_o empty_n of_o the_o friar_n belly_n the_o restrain_v of_o the_o clergy_n luxury_n no_o but_o from_o the_o time_n the_o pure_a gospel_n be_v first_o restore_v and_o bring_v to_o light_n the_o world_n have_v every_o day_n become_v worse_o and_o worse_o 73._o worse_o reply_v pag_n 73._o we_o acknowledge_v that_o luther_n and_o other_o complain_v of_o the_o disorder_n of_o man_n that_o communicate_v with_o they_o but_o will_v the_o jesuite_n conclude_v that_o these_o be_v occasion_v by_o bring_v in_o the_o doctrine_n of_o christ_n be_v the_o preacher_n of_o the_o gospel_n fill_v with_o a_o deform_v rather_o than_o a_o reform_a humour_n because_o they_o can_v not_o tolerate_v stew_n and_o profaneness_n where_o they_o preach_v but_o do_v inveigh_v with_o bitterness_n against_o they_o if_o there_o be_v a_o jesuite_n that_o have_v so_o much_o devotion_n as_o to_o reproach_v the_o sin_n of_o the_o roman_a court_n or_o italy_n with_o luther_n courage_n and_o shall_v upbrayde_v they_o with_o neglect_n of_o the_o clergy_n example_n the_o pope_n holiness_n and_o the_o lamp_n of_o divine_a light_n that_o proceed_v from_o he_o and_o shall_v cry_v out_o that_o sodom_n and_o gomorrha_n never_o abound_v with_o sin_n and_o sodomy_n as_o italy_n notwithstanding_o their_o help_n of_o devotion_n do_v at_o this_o present_a or_o since_o peter_n place_v his_o seat_n there_o shall_v he_o therefore_o confess_v that_o peter_n plant_v his_o seat_n there_o shall_v be_v the_o cause_n of_o those_o filthy_a sin_n and_o sodomy_n or_o that_o the_o clergy_n life_n papal_a holiness_n and_o determination_n do_v bring_v profaneness_n into_o those_o state_n and_o country_n absit_fw-la the_o apostle_n say_v of_o the_o corinthian_n after_o they_o have_v receive_v the_o gospel_n that_o there_o be_v such_o fornication_n among_o they_o as_o be_v not_o once_o name_v among_o the_o gentile_n 〈◊〉_d gentile_n 1._o cor._n 〈◊〉_d must_v it_o follow_v that_o this_o be_v to_o be_v impute_v to_o the_o christian_a religion_n no_o this_o make_v the_o offence_n the_o great_a it_o do_v no_o way_n cause_v it_o and_o this_o be_v the_o meaning_n of_o luther_n and_o most_o of_o the_o other_o cite_v the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v compare_v to_o light_n in_o scripture_n 19_o scripture_n ii_o peter_n 1._o 19_o the_o light_n whereof_o may_v declare_v more_o to_o luther_n a_o preacher_n abroad_o then_o when_o he_o remain_v dark_a and_o lazy_a in_o his_o cloister_n at_o home_n and_o we_o think_v that_o luther_n may_v deceive_v himself_o in_o this_o particular_a for_o not_o distinguish_v betwixt_o a_o evil_a and_o the_o detection_n thereof_o the_o pharisee_n hypocrisy_n be_v not_o think_v such_o before_o christ_n time_n his_o reveal_n of_o they_o bring_v they_o not_o in_o luther_n espy_v more_o mischief_n abroad_o when_o he_o veiw_v man_n action_n by_o the_o light_n of_o the_o word_n than_o he_o can_v before_o by_o a_o roman_a glow-worm_n and_o this_o may_v make_v he_o think_v the_o world_n worse_o when_o his_o eye_n have_v more_o light_a and_o his_o medium_n be_v more_o clear_a when_o grace_n enter_v into_o a_o man_n heart_n he_o tremble_v at_o every_o thought_n of_o uncleanness_n that_o before_o the_o receipt_n thereof_o in_o regard_n of_o blindness_n can_v not_o see_v the_o odiousness_n of_o the_o filthy_a crime_n and_o man_n as_o he_o can_v esteem_v virtue_n but_o by_o this_o light_n of_o grace_n so_o he_o can_v apprehend_v the_o foulness_n of_o sin_n so_o that_o luther_n may_v get_v fruit_n by_o his_o preach_n though_o he_o be_v bold_a to_o say_v of_o some_o that_o pretend_v to_o follow_v he_o they_o be_v and_o remain_v swine_n they_o believe_v like_o swine_n and_o like_o swine_n they_o die_v 73_o reply_v pag._n 73_o but_o do_v m._n malone_n urge_v this_o for_o the_o credit_n of_o the_o swyneheard_n or_o the_o swine_n for_o the_o harlet_n or_o her_o lover_n poor_a luther_n because_o the_o swine_n that_o rome_n have_v breed_v in_o filthiness_n will_v not_o leave_v their_o swinish_a condition_n for_o his_o preach_n against_o their_o swynishnesse_n this_o be_v the_o thing_n he_o bewail_v and_o what_o great_a hurt_n come_v thereby_o to_o luther_n cause_n or_o the_o cause_n of_o religion_n who_o complaint_n may_v be_v paralel_v by_o the_o prophet_n 4._o prophet_n 〈◊〉_d 49_o 4._o and_o apostle_n themselves_o and_o here_o to_o satisfy_v the_o reader_n i_o will_v have_v he_o to_o observe_v some_o thing_n fit_a to_o be_v take_v notice_n of_o and_o it_o will_v overthrow_v all_o
wheredome_n and_o fornication_n wherewith_o they_o defile_v the_o court_n of_o rome_n and_o usury_n in_o the_o high_a degree_n vocant_fw-la degree_n nâ—ch_o cleâ—â—â—ng_v in_o lib_n de_fw-la corrupto_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la stam_fw-la c._n 10._o cardinalium_fw-la qui_fw-la papae_fw-la assident_fw-la spiritus_fw-la verba_fw-la tumenâ—ia_fw-la gestus_fw-la tam_fw-la sunt_fw-la insolentâ—s_fw-la ut_fw-la si_fw-la aâ—tifex_fw-la cuique_fw-la vellet_fw-la superbiae_fw-la simulachâ—um_fw-la effingere_fw-la nullâ_fw-la congruentius_fw-la tatiâ—â—â—id_fw-la facere_fw-la â—osset_n quam_fw-la cardinalis_fw-la effigiâ—â—_n oculis_fw-la inâ—â—â—â—iâ—m_fw-la objectaâ—â—o_fw-la idem_fw-la c._n 12._o quis_fw-la â—esciâ—â—_n â—ctionis_fw-la schismatics_n horrend_a be_o pâ—â—â—â—m_fw-la per_fw-la nequitiam_fw-la cardiâ—alium_fw-la in_o ecclesiae_fw-la grâ—mium_fw-la injectam_fw-la etc._n etc._n idem_fw-la c._n tâ—_n quis_fw-la immensam_fw-la &_o iâ—â—â—tâ—icabiâ—em_fw-la voraginem_fw-la ipâ—orum_fw-la concupiscentiâ—_n ver_fw-la bis_fw-la square_a valeat_fw-la etc._n etc._n idem_fw-la c._n 12._o transâ—o_o simoniacal_a aâ—â—d_n papaâ—_n intercessioneâ—_n patrocinia_fw-la veâ—alia_fw-la corruptiones_fw-la aut_fw-la promotioneâ—â—â—â—pisâ—imâ—â—_n &_o damnaâ—isâ—â—â—s_n quae_fw-la omnes_fw-la ferè_fw-la istis_fw-la auctoribus_fw-la &_o suasoribus_fw-la â—iâ—bant_fw-la etc._n etc._n neâ—_n enumâ—rare_fw-la volo_fw-la câ—rum_fw-la adulteria_fw-la flupra_fw-la â—oâ—â—icâ—â—â—ones_fw-la quibus_fw-la romanam_fw-la curiâ—â—â—â—â—am_fw-la nuâ—â—_n incâ—â—â—ant_a etc._n etc._n neâ—_n refero_fw-la vsuras_fw-la etc._n etc._n quâ_fw-la ex_fw-la causa_fw-la nâ—â—mularioâ—_n supreme_a 〈…〉_o non_fw-it incongruâ—nâ—er_a â—oâ—_n quidam_fw-la vocant_fw-la and_o for_o their_o clergy_n how_o be_v they_o esteem_v among_o themselves_o aventine_n term_n they_o in_o his_o time_n great_a wolf_n lustful_a per_fw-la son_n adulterer_n ravisher_n of_o virgin_n and_o nun_n theive_v and_o usurper_n drone_n lecherous_a perfidious_a perjure_a ignorant_a ass_n wolf_n hypocrite_n narro_fw-la hypocrite_n aveâ—iniâ—_n l._n 6._o annal._n 〈◊〉_d cuâ—_n oâ—iâ—â—â—apâ—oâ—_n â—iâ—â—â—â—_n luâ—â—â—_n liâ—idinoâ—os_n adulteros_fw-la virginum_fw-la sacratâ—rum_fw-la foeminarum_fw-la â—â—upra_fw-la 〈…〉_o cocosâ—â—â—liâ—â—â—s_n latroâ—â—â—_n argeâ—tarioâ—_n numâ—xâ—â—rioâ—_n â—ucos_fw-la pecuniarum_fw-la aucupes_fw-la â—uâ—â—â—â—â—ditos_fw-la peâ—â—â—doâ—_fw-es 〈◊〉_d literarum_fw-la omnium_fw-la penitus_fw-la rudes_fw-la imponiâ—_n non_fw-la audita_fw-la loquoâ—_n â—â—_o quae_fw-la â—isâ—e_fw-fr oculis_fw-la video_fw-la narro_fw-la etc._n etc._n albertus_n express_v the_o ruler_n of_o the_o church_n by_o the_o messenger_n of_o antichrist_n supplanter_n of_o the_o flock_n of_o christ_n 10_o christ_n albertus_n in_o evangel_n johan._n c._n 10_o and_o how_o long_o they_o have_v continue_v this_o good_a opinion_n among_o all_o man_n the_o complaint_n and_o grief_n of_o man_n that_o have_v have_v any_o modesty_n in_o several_a age_n will_v declare_v alij_fw-la declare_v honour_v aâ—gust_n dial._n de_fw-fr praedest_fw-la &_o lib._n arbit_n verte_z te_fw-la ad_fw-la cives_fw-la babyloniae_fw-la &_o vide_fw-la quales_fw-la sint_fw-la etc._n etc._n alvares_n pelagiâ—s_v the_o planâ—â—â—_n ecclesiae_fw-la nic._n 〈◊〉_d de_fw-fr coâ—â—â—pto_fw-la ecclesiâ—_n 〈◊〉_d neâ—â—â—â—_n berâ—â—â—dâ—â—_n &_o alij_fw-la neither_o do_v this_o age_n minister_v unto_o we_o any_o hope_n that_o their_o doctrine_n be_v now_o of_o better_a efficacy_n though_o the_o papacy_n be_v honour_v with_o more_o glorious_a title_n then_o ever_o it_o be_v before_o in_o regard_n they_o do_v not_o as_o luther_n be_v by_o they_o pretend_v to_o have_v do_v term_v only_o some_o dissolure_n person_n swine_n but_o all_o their_o clergy_n and_o laiety_n also_o for_o so_o our_o irish_a regulars_n will_v have_v the_o irish_a bishop_n to_o be_v swineherd_n &_o their_o flock_n swine_n this_o be_v their_o argument_n to_o prove_v the_o provincial_n of_o the_o regulars_n to_o be_v great_a prelate_n then_o the_o bishop_n because_o the_o pastor_n be_v know_v by_o his_o flock_n &_o opilio_n digâ—ior_fw-la est_fw-la sâ—bâ—â—câ—_n a_o shepherd_n be_v better_a than_o a_o sâ—yâ—eheard_n â—â—bulâ—o_fw-la sâ—yâ—eheard_n consuâ—a_fw-fr â—â—â—iâ—ien_fw-fr proâ—â—â—â—_n superiores_fw-la regularium_fw-la digniores_fw-la sâ—nt_fw-la episcopis_fw-la siquidem_fw-la digâ—â—tas_fw-la pastoris_fw-la petenda_fw-la est_fw-la ex_fw-la â—_z 〈◊〉_d gregiâ—_n quemadmodum_fw-la â—â—iâ—â—o_fw-la dignior_fw-la â—â—_o â—â—bulâ—o_fw-la so_o that_o if_o the_o jesuite_n make_v looseness_n of_o conversation_n in_o some_o particular_n a_o argument_n against_o the_o truth_n of_o religion_n and_o doctrine_n in_o the_o reformation_n and_o will_v thereby_o take_v away_o our_o kindred_n with_o the_o primitive_a church_n what_o may_v we_o conclude_v from_o the_o universal_a leprosy_n that_o have_v by_o their_o own_o confession_n overgrow_v both_o head_n and_o member_n throughout_o the_o papacy_n but_o iâ—_n this_o manner_n of_o argue_v from_o corrupt_a manner_n to_o corrupt_a doctrine_n be_v of_o small_a force_n as_o be_v acknowledge_v by_o themselves_o in_o so_o much_o that_o no_o inward_a virtue_n in_o bellarmine_n judgement_n be_v require_v to_o make_v one_o a_o part_n of_o the_o true_a church_n virtâ—â—eâ—_n church_n bellarm._n de_fw-fr eccles_n miliâ—â—â—â—â—_n l._n 3._o c._n 3._o ut_fw-la aliquis_fw-la aliquâ—_n modo_fw-la dici_fw-la possit_fw-la pars_fw-la veâ—â—_n ecclesiae_fw-la de_fw-la qua_fw-la scripturâ—â—_n loquâ—nâ—â—r_n â—on_v â—â—taâ—â—â—s_n requiri_fw-la ullam_fw-la internam_fw-la virtâ—â—eâ—_n yet_o i_o be_o sure_a it_o be_v able_a to_o moderate_v this_o vaunter_n from_o triumph_v like_o the_o pharisee_n god_n i_o thank_v thou_o i_o be_o not_o like_o other_o man_n 9_o luke_n â—8_o 9_o but_o here_o our_o answerer_n domand_v of_o i_o say_v the_o jesuite_n whether_o i_o be_v able_a to_o show_v one_o point_n wherein_o 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occhamistae_fw-la albertistae_fw-la egidiani_fw-la alexandrâ—i_fw-la etc._n etc._n o_o secâ—â—â—_n posthabebantur_fw-la evangelia_n epistolae_fw-la christiâ—â—_n sapientia_fw-la delitescebat_fw-la etc._n etc._n neither_o can_v the_o jesuite_n glory_n in_o their_o roman_a peace_n when_o in_o ferus_fw-la his_o judgement_n in_o omnibus_fw-la gentibus_fw-la major_a est_fw-la concordia_fw-la quam_fw-la inter_fw-la christianos_n at_o the_o time_n the_o pope_n keep_v the_o great_a rule_n in_o the_o church_n there_o be_v more_o concord_n in_o any_o nation_n then_o among_o the_o christian_n domini_fw-la christian_n 〈◊〉_d 3._o de_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d domini_fw-la and_o from_o what_o fountain_n come_v these_o quarrel_n he_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d it_o will_v decâ—are_v because_o their_o 〈◊〉_d werâ—_n not_o as_o our_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o peace_n esay_n 9_o but_o of_o war_n guerrae_fw-la alvar._n the_o planct_v eccles_n l._n â—_o art_n 5._o nec_fw-la sunt_fw-la â—odie_fw-la prâ—lati_fw-la principes_fw-la pacis_fw-la sicut_fw-la christus_fw-la esay_n 9_o sed_fw-la guerrae_fw-la and_o what_o make_v the_o pope_n and_o his_o prelate_n so_o martial_a be_v not_o the_o quarrel_n doctrine_n and_o in_o their_o divinity_n the_o foundation_n of_o faith_n the_o supremacy_n what_o peace_n have_v the_o roman_a church_n when_o prince_n resist_v their_o usurpation_n their_o kingdom_n be_v fill_v with_o war_n with_o blood_n what_o unity_n of_o faith_n can_v make_v the_o son_n break_v the_o bond_n of_o nature_n to_o his_o father_n the_o servant_n the_o bond_n of_o faith_n to_o his_o lord_n what_o peace_n be_v there_o when_o your_o pope_n deny_v marriage_n to_o the_o clergy_n when_o they_o beard_v your_o tyrant_n charge_v he_o with_o heresy_n and_o frantic_a opinion_n laxaret_fw-la opinion_n lambertus_n schafnaburgensis_n in_o histor_n ann_n 1074._o hildebrandinus_n papa_n cum_fw-la epicopis_fw-la italiae_fw-la conveniens_fw-la jam_fw-la frequentibus_fw-la synodis_fw-la decreverat_fw-la ut_fw-la secundùm_fw-la instituta_fw-la antiquorum_fw-la canonum_fw-la presbyteri_fw-la vxores_fw-la non_fw-la habeant_fw-la etc._n etc._n adversus_fw-la hoc_fw-la decretum_fw-la protinus_fw-la uchementer_fw-la interfremuit_fw-la tota_fw-la â—actio_fw-la clericorum_fw-la hominem_fw-la planè_fw-la haerâ—ticum_fw-la &_o vesani_fw-la dogmatis_fw-la esse_fw-la clamitans_fw-la qui_fw-la oblitus_fw-la sermonis_fw-la domini_fw-la quo_fw-la ait_fw-la non_fw-la omnes_fw-la capiunt_fw-la hoc_fw-la verbum_fw-la qui_fw-la potest_fw-la capere_fw-la capiat_fw-la et_fw-la apostolus_fw-la qui_fw-la se_fw-la non_fw-la conâ—inet_fw-la nubat_fw-la melius_fw-la est_fw-la 〈◊〉_d nâ—bere_fw-la quam_fw-la uâ—i_fw-la 〈◊〉_d exactione_n homines_fw-la viâ—ere_fw-la cogerat_fw-la titu_fw-la angelorum_fw-la &_o dum_fw-la consuetum_fw-la curâ—â—n_fw-la naturae_fw-la negaret_fw-la fornicationi_fw-la &_o immundiciae_fw-la fraena_fw-la laxaret_fw-la you_o talk_v of_o peace_n and_o will_v have_v the_o tyrant_n the_o peacemaker_n when_o like_o a_o curse_a ishmael_n his_o hand_n have_v be_v against_o every_o man_n &_o every_o man_n against_o he_o 12._o he_o gen._n 16._o 12._o what_o prince_n be_v not_o a_o heretic_n or_o schismatic_n that_o resist_v his_o will_n what_o priest_n or_o people_n be_v not_o condemn_v persecute_a that_o will_v not_o stoop_v to_o this_o golden_a calf_n peace_n you_o have_v have_v but_o it_o have_v be_v among_o your_o own_o such_o as_o grâ—gory_n speak_v of_o that_o the_o minister_n of_o antichrist_n shall_v be_v knit_v together_o like_o the_o scale_n of_o 〈◊〉_d abunâ—ur_n 〈◊〉_d greg._n moral_a l._n 33._o c_o 24._o quia_fw-la membra_fw-la leviathan_n istius_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la iniquos_fw-la omnes_fw-la quos_fw-la dei_fw-la sermo_fw-la squamarum_fw-la compactionibus_fw-la comparat_fw-la ad_fw-la defensionem_fw-la svam_fw-la par_fw-fr culpa_fw-la coâ—cordat_fw-la benè_fw-la dicitur_fw-la una_fw-la alteri_fw-la adhaerebunt_fw-la &_o tenentes_fw-la se_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d abunâ—ur_n and_o this_o 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against_o they_o but_o out_o of_o a_o jealouâ—ie_n from_o whence_o they_o proceed_v whether_o from_o charity_n which_o he_o will_v not_o believe_v or_o which_o be_v more_o likely_a perchance_o from_o a_o conceit_n of_o his_o weakness_n and_o ignorance_n whereby_o the_o answerer_n be_v afraid_a that_o he_o know_v not_o himself_o what_o he_o have_v to_o prove_v or_o how_o it_o may_v be_v prove_v 94_o reply_v pag._n 94_o which_o the_o jesuite_n for_o his_o ownsake_n be_v unwilling_a to_o acknowledge_v for_o say_v he_o though_o i_o confess_v myself_o to_o be_v the_o weak_a of_o a_o thousand_o yet_o have_v i_o no_o reason_n to_o think_v that_o he_o will_v any_o way_n support_v my_o weakness_n who_o have_v undertake_v to_o enter_v into_o 〈◊〉_d with_o i_o before_o such_o spectator_n â—â—_o in_o their_o view_n the_o â—east_n â—â—yle_n can_v be_v reâ—â—ived_v without_o a_o great_a disgrace_n abide_v disgrace_n abide_v here_o the_o jesuite_n manife_v his_o charity_n but_o declare_v no_o 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he_o 〈◊〉_d of_o the_o most_o leaâ—â—ed_a 〈◊〉_d câ—â—â—itie_n to_o himself_o or_o 〈◊〉_d towards_o the_o fatheâ—â—_n as_o â—â—_o please_v i_o be_o 〈◊〉_d â—e_n have_v say_v nothing_o here_o that_o may_v persuade_v we_o that_o he_o have_v swallow_v down_o all_o antiquity_n or_o that_o his_o knowledge_n be_v so_o great_a that_o from_o the_o answer_v learned_a 〈◊〉_d he_o may_v not_o receive_v instruction_n but_o the_o jesuite_n 〈◊〉_d know_v that_o these_o be_v not_o the_o reason_n that_o move_v he_o to_o persuade_v the_o obsâ—â—â—ation_n of_o these_o rule_n but_o their_o desperate_a impudeâ—ciâ—s_n for_o who_o know_v not_o that_o they_o can_v pretend_v father_n for_o their_o cause_n that_o hold_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o by_o devise_v a_o 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d make_v they_o their_o friend_n when_o they_o be_v urge_v against_o they_o and_o also_o make_v that_o faith_n which_o be_v not_o in_o the_o father_n creed_n neither_o find_v in_o any_o of_o their_o exposition_n upon_o the_o same_o this_o be_v the_o reason_n of_o give_v these_o câ—â—tions_n because_o they_o use_v the_o father_n to_o blind_a not_o to_o manifest_v the_o truth_n of_o the_o ancient_a â—aith_n &_o therefore_o the_o jesuite_n may_v see_v how_o â—ond_a his_o imagination_n be_v &_o how_o poor_a hâ—â—_n conceit_n but_o the_o jesuit_n see_v the_o roman_a faith_n to_o be_v such_o that_o he_o dare_v not_o undertake_v to_o prove_v it_o but_o bysome_a few_o and_o that_o not_o as_o point_v 〈◊〉_d but_o as_o point_n hold_v by_o they_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d by_o presumption_n as_o if_o in_o antiquity_n there_o be_v not_o a_o 〈◊〉_d betwixt_o their_o creed_n with_o the_o point_n therein_o &_o other_o remote_a deduction_n from_o the_o same_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d from_o hence_o be_v the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d whether_o this_o 〈…〉_o which_o the_o 〈…〉_o of_o father_n now_o he_o will_v give_v 〈…〉_o wherefore_o he_o 〈◊〉_d these_o 〈◊〉_d and_o the_o 〈◊〉_d be_v he_o 〈…〉_o any_o purpose_n for_o first_o he_o confess_v it_o absurd_a that_o
falso_fw-la 415._o ecclesia_fw-la propheâ—â—_n est_fw-la more_o than_o a_o prophet_n propheta_fw-la prophet_n idem_fw-la falso_fw-la 224._o plâ—â—quaâ—_n propheta_fw-la yea_o great_a than_o all_o the_o prophet_n prophetis_fw-la prophet_n idem_fw-la circ_n false_o 286._o major_a omnibus_fw-la prophetis_fw-la have_v the_o spirit_n of_o god_n for_o 〈◊〉_d â—iâ—ar_n dicit_fw-la â—iâ—ar_n idem_fw-la falso_fw-la 416._o spiritum_fw-la sanctum_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la vicarium_fw-la dicit_fw-la thus_o we_o see_v what_o judge_n the_o jesuite_n do_v contest_v for_o and_o how_o far_o they_o labour_v to_o extend_v his_o power_n to_o wit_n that_o the_o pope_n who_o be_v not_o only_o a_o prophet_n but_o more_o than_o a_o prophet_n yeaâ—_n great_a than_o all_o the_o prophet_n who_o have_v the_o spirit_n of_o god_n for_o his_o vicâ—â—_n either_o with_o or_o without_o a_o council_n have_v only_o power_n to_o determine_v matter_n of_o faith_n whereby_o we_o may_v know_v what_o to_o believe_v and_o what_o not_o with_o authority_n not_o only_o equal_a but_o superior_a to_o the_o scripture_n now_o what_o strength_n do_v the_o jesuite_n bring_v to_o confirm_v this_o rule_n his_o first_o place_n be_v esay_n liiii_o and_o the_o 17._o thou_o shall_v judge_v every_o tongue_n that_o shall_v resist_v theâ—_n in_o thy_o judgement_n 99_o judgement_n reply_v pag._n 99_o sure_o the_o jesuite_n be_v like_a to_o their_o divine_n in_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n who_o be_v restrain_v to_o the_o scripture_n and_o forbid_a schoole-disputes_a bring_v all_o the_o place_n out_o of_o the_o prophet_n and_o psalm_n where_o they_o stand_v the_o word_n confiteor_n and_o its_o verbal_a confissiâ—_n to_o prove_v auricular_a confession_n and_o they_o be_v account_v best_o learn_v who_o bring_v most_o of_o they_o 345._o they_o hist_o council_n tridâ—â—_n l._n 4._o p._n 345._o for_o here_o be_v nothing_o whereby_o to_o make_v the_o pope_n the_o infallible_a judge_n of_o controversy_n unless_o he_o will_v conclude_v that_o wheresoever_o judge_n or_o judgement_n be_v express_v it_o be_v mean_v of_o he_o the_o second_o be_v out_o of_o mat._n xi_o and_o the_o 18._o hâ—ll_o gate_n shall_v not_o prevail_v against_o she_o ibid._n she_o reply_v ibid._n we_o confess_v that_o all_o the_o power_n of_o hell_n shall_v never_o prevail_v against_o the_o church_n but_o we_o say_v this_o church_n be_v neither_o the_o pope_n naked_a nor_o roman_a as_o have_v in_o many_o place_n be_v show_v yet_o i_o will_v glad_o know_v to_o what_o purpose_n this_o text_n be_v here_o produce_v the_o three_o place_n be_v mat._n xviii_o and_o the_o â—7_n hâ—e_n that_o will_v not_o hear_v the_o church_n let_v he_o be_v to_o thou_o aâ—_n a_o heathen_a and_o a_o publican_n ibid._n publican_n reply_v ibid._n if_o a_o infallible_a judge_n be_v here_o point_v out_o than_o all_o these_o absurdity_n will_v follow_v first_o that_o every_o particular_a church_n shall_v be_v infallible_a and_o the_o judge_n of_o controversy_n for_o dâ—c_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la have_v relation_n to_o particular_a church_n not_o to_o the_o catholic_a second_o a_o particular_a church_n shall_v not_o be_v subject_a to_o error_n in_o criminal_a cause_n if_o this_o place_n point_v out_o a_o infallible_a judgement_n when_o as_o this_o infallibility_n be_v deny_v not_o only_o your_o own_o counsel_n but_o your_o pope_n also_o 3_o if_o the_o church_n judgement_n must_v be_v infallible_a because_o christ_n require_v we_o to_o hear_v the_o church_n how_o can_v the_o pastor_n of_o the_o church_n be_v exclude_v from_o this_o privilege_n when_o the_o people_n be_v enjoin_v by_o the_o apostle_n to_o obey_v and_o follow_v they_o heb._n xiii_o 17._o his_o four_o place_n be_v ephes_n four_o ii_o and_o 14._o god_n have_v place_v in_o the_o church_n apostles_n prophet_n pastor_n and_o doctor_n etc._n etc._n to_o the_o end_n that_o we_o be_v â—â—_o more_o little_a child_n â—aâ—oring_v with_o every_o wind_n of_o doctrine_n ibâ—â—_n doctrine_n reply_v ibâ—â—_n i_o shall_v show_v hereafter_o that_o this_o text_n make_v against_o his_o judge_n his_o monarch_n for_o the_o present_a he_o may_v take_v this_o with_o he_o first_o that_o we_o acknowledge_v as_o long_o as_o the_o church_n have_v apostles_n &_o prophet_n their_o testimony_n be_v divine_a and_o can_v infallible_o direct_v second_o although_o the_o â—aâ—tors_n now_o be_v mean_n ordain_v by_o god_n to_o the_o end_n that_o we_o be_v no_o more_o little_a child_n waver_v with_o every_o wind_n of_o doctrine_n yet_o it_o do_v not_o follow_v that_o they_o be_v infallible_a judge_n see_v the_o argument_n may_v as_o well_o hold_v of_o each_o as_o of_o all_o who_o be_v ordain_v to_o the_o same_o end_n which_o i_o think_v the_o jesuite_n will_v not_o acknowledge_v his_o last_o be_v 1._o tim._n 2._o the_o church_n be_v the_o pillar_n and_o foundation_n of_o truth_n ibid._n truth_n reply_v ibid._n what_o therefore_o the_o pope_n the_o infallible_a judge_n this_o follow_v not_o for_o he_o be_v the_o rock_n if_o we_o believe_v popish_a interpreter_n upon_o which_o the_o church_n be_v build_v how_o then_o can_v he_o be_v the_o church_n infallible_o to_o direct_v the_o foundation_n sure_o differ_v from_o the_o roof_n the_o church_n that_o be_v build_v from_o the_o rock_n that_o she_o be_v build_v upon_o second_o the_o jesuite_n may_v know_v that_o we_o envy_v not_o the_o privilege_n which_o god_n have_v give_v his_o church_n nay_o he_o be_v no_o member_n of_o she_o that_o shall_v not_o reverence_v she_o with_o obedience_n and_o therefore_o we_o acknowledge_v she_o the_o pillar_n and_o ground_n of_o truth_n if_o contain_v the_o apostle_n absolute_o perfect_o if_o without_o the_o apostle_n we_o deny_v not_o her_o counsel_n but_o with_o all_o obedience_n embrace_v they_o if_o she_o command_v as_o she_o be_v limit_v in_o matter_n of_o faith_n by_o the_o scripture_n but_o we_o see_v this_o place_n be_v more_o for_o the_o church_n of_o ephesus_n concern_v which_o the_o apostle_n speak_v literal_o than_o rome_n and_o yet_o experience_n have_v persuade_v we_o that_o there_o be_v no_o infallibility_n there_o further_o than_o this_o some_o of_o your_o own_o dare_v not_o go_v but_o make_v a_o difference_n betwixt_o the_o judgement_n of_o god_n and_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n the_o one_o they_o say_v be_v infallible_a but_o the_o other_o may_v sometime_o deceive_v collegum_fw-la deceive_v panorm_a in_o decret_a de_fw-fr senten_a excom_n cap._n 28._o judicium_fw-la dei_fw-la veritati_fw-la quae_fw-la nec_fw-la fallit_fw-la nec_fw-la fallitur_fw-la semper_fw-la innititur_fw-la judicium_fw-la autem_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la aliquando_fw-la sequitur_fw-la opinionem_fw-la quae_fw-la sâ—pè_fw-la fallit_fw-la &_o fallitur_fw-la dry_a de_fw-fr dog_n ecclesl_n 2._o p._n 58._o generale_fw-mi concilium_fw-la papae_fw-la cardinalium_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la doctorum_fw-la â—â—_o scripture_n propheticis_fw-la intelligendis_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la tantae_fw-la authoritatis_fw-la quantae_fw-la fuerit_fw-la olim_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la collegum_fw-la for_o ruffinus_n his_o testimony_n that_o s._n basil_n and_o s._n gregory_n nazianzen_n do_v take_v the_o interpretation_n of_o the_o scripture_n not_o according_a to_o their_o own_o proper_a understanding_n but_o according_a to_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o father_n 99_o father_n reply_v p._n 99_o the_o jesuite_n point_v not_o out_o the_o place_n if_o he_o do_v i_o think_v little_a will_v appear_v for_o his_o purpose_n in_o regard_n he_o be_v to_o prove_v the_o authority_n of_o a_o judge_n not_o the_o discretion_n of_o a_o doctor_n and_o who_o doubt_n but_o any_o wise_a interpreter_n will_v use_v all_o mean_n that_o may_v inform_v he_o to_o perform_v his_o work_n but_o let_v ruffian_n pass_v augustine_n make_v a_o outcry_n and_o do_v not_o s._n augustine_n cry_v out_o say_v the_o jesuite_n that_o truth_n repose_v in_o the_o belly_n of_o the_o church_n etc._n etc._n ibid._n etc._n reply_v ibid._n and_o who_o say_v otherwise_o he_o that_o shall_v think_v that_o truth_n be_v remove_v out_o of_o the_o church_n think_v amiss_o but_o to_o conclude_v from_o hence_o the_o church_n the_o roman_a church_n the_o roman_a pope_n to_o be_v the_o judge_n or_o rule_n of_o faith_n be_v inconsequent_a neither_o do_v that_o place_n of_o augustine_n cite_v by_o the_o jesuite_n in_o the_o xth_o section_n evangeliâ—_n non_fw-fr credereâ—â—_n nisi_fw-la i_o catholica_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la commoveret_fw-la authoritus_fw-la contain_v any_o thing_n to_o enforce_v this_o for_o many_o thing_n may_v move_v we_o to_o believe_v that_o be_v not_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n miracle_n do_v this_o work_n in_o many_o but_o this_o i_o hope_v be_v far_o from_o your_o rule_n what_o be_v urge_v from_o vincentius_n lirinensis_n have_v be_v full_o answer_v his_o note_n from_o the_o geneva_n bible_n prove_v nothing_o if_o he_o find_v this_o judge_n at_o geneva_n he_o speed_v well_o in_o these_o word_n i_o fear_v he_o can_v be_v espy_v and_o now_o have_v little_a or_o nothing_o he_o begin_v his_o peroration_n behold_v here_o gentle_a reader_n how_o although_o the_o article_n
of_o our_o faith_n be_v ground_v some_o way_n or_o other_o in_o the_o scripture_n yet_o the_o rule_n to_o find_v out_o which_o be_v a_o point_n of_o faith_n and_o which_o not_o must_v be_v take_v from_o the_o church_n 100_o reply_v p._n 100_o observe_v here_o what_o we_o gain_v from_o the_o jesuite_n and_o then_o we_o will_v attend_v his_o argument_n first_o he_o that_o in_o the_o page_n before_o tell_v we_o that_o there_o be_v many_o confess_v point_n of_o faith_n which_o be_v not_o in_o any_o sort_n express_v or_o as_o much_o as_o once_o touch_v by_o the_o scripture_n â—â—_o scripture_n reply_v pag._n â—â—_o in_o this_o place_n will_v persuade_v the_o gentle_a reader_n that_o the_o article_n of_o their_o faith_n be_v some_o way_n or_o other_o ground_v in_o the_o scripture_n second_o he_o make_v the_o ground_n of_o faith_n to_o be_v the_o scripture_n yet_o the_o rule_n to_o find_v out_o which_o be_v a_o point_n of_o faith_n and_o which_o not_o must_v be_v take_v from_o the_o church_n so_o that_o although_o he_o make_v their_o pope_n their_o cater-pillar_n yet_o scripture_n be_v acknowledge_v the_o ground_n of_o faith_n but_o to_o make_v this_o discourse_n a_o oversight_n i_o will_v know_v how_o the_o rule_n can_v measure_v without_o the_o ground_n or_o how_o faith_n can_v remain_v ground_v in_o scripture_n when_o their_o rule_n measure_v without_o it_o now_o the_o jesuite_n will_v make_v this_o know_v by_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n but_o before_o he_o begin_v he_o prepare_v his_o reader_n some_o point_n there_o be_v in_o which_o controversy_n arise_v 〈◊〉_d the_o affirmative_a nor_o yet_o the_o negative_a part_n be_v by_o the_o church_n declare_v to_o be_v true_a nor_o command_v to_o be_v so_o believe_v &_o profess_v by_o her_o follower_n in_o which_o say_v s._n augustine_n that_o faith_n whereby_o we_o be_v christian_n remain_v safe_a either_o we_o do_v not_o know_v which_o part_n in_o true_a and_o â—â—_o suspend_v our_o definitive_a 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