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A61651 A rebuke to the informers with a plea for the ministers of the Gospel, called nonconformists, and their meetings and advice to those to whom these informers address themselves for assistance in their undertakings. Stockton, Owen, 1630-1680. 1675 (1675) Wing S5699; ESTC R34618 98,356 92

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in other words To which I answer They may be truly said to pray after the same manner though they use not the same words For our Lord Jesus Christ gave his Disciples a form or pattern to direct them how to pray and bid them pray after that manner that he had taught them Matt. 6.9 After this manner therefore pray ye Our Father which art in Heaven And we find some of their Prayers recorded as Act. 1.24 25. Act 4.23 Yet in neither of these nor any other place do we read that they used that form of Prayer which our Lord Jesus taught them but their Prayers were put up to God in other words Now I would demand of these Informers Did the Apostles transgress the commandment of Christ and pray in other manner than Christ directed when they used not that form of words which are contained in the Lords Prayers but prayed in other words I suppose they will be ashamed to say the Apostles transgressed the command and prayed in other manner than he enjoin'd them If they should be so audacious as to charge the Apostles with the breach of Christ's command for praying in other words they may be refuted from that gracious answer which God gave to their Prayers by filling them all with the Holy Ghost after they had prayed to him Act. 4.31 If they will grant the Apostles did not pray in other manner than Christ directed though they used other words and so were no transgressors of Christ's command Then I reply Why then do these Informers persecute and persecute these Ministers as transgressors of this Act pretending that in their Meetings they pray in other manner than according to the Liturgy when all that is requisite to make a Prayer acceptable to God is found in these mens Prayers as well as in the Prayers in the Liturgy These mens Prayers are offered up to the same God by the same Mediatour by the help of the same Spirit for things agreeable to the Will of God and for the honour and glory of God as well as the Prayers prescribed in the Liturgy But besides what hath been said already there may be one thing more added which will exempt these men from being guilty of exercising any Acts of Religion in other manner than according to the Liturgy of the Church of England and that is this The Liturgy of the Church of England includes all those portions of the Holy Scripture which are appointed to be read for the first and second Lesion for the Morning and Evening Service throughout the whole year together with what is read for the Epistles and Gospels And whatever Religious exercise is allowed of by these by those portions of Scripture appointed to be read by the Liturgy for the Morning or Evening Service that Religious exercise is not performed in other manner than according to the Liturgy of the Church of England And if all those portions of Scripture be part of the Liturgy which I suppose none will deny it will be easie proving that there is nothing done at these Assemblies but what is agreeable to the Scriptures used in the Liturgy I will touch but upon one or two places On July the 18th for the second Lesson at the Evening Service is appointed to be read 1 Tim. 2. and there praying in houses and in every other place is allowed of as well as in Temples so it be done in an holy manner v. 8 I will therefore that men pray every where lifting up holy hands without wrath and doubting And June the 30th for the second Lesson is appointed Eph. 6 and there the Apostle alloweth of all manner of Prayer so it be in the Spirit v. 18 Praying always with all Prayers and Supplication in the Spirit So that all manner of Prayer at what time or place soever it be made if it be Prayer in the Spirit is allowed by the Scriptures appointed to be read by the Liturgy and so is not in other manner than according to the Liturgy Many more instances might be given to prove the Religious exercises of these men to be in such manner as agreeth with the Scriptures prescribed to be read by the Liturgy but I shall add no more Now let us consider whether these mens exercises of Religion be in other manner than according to the practise of the Church of England If they had no benefit by the former clause which as before explained is for their advantage though made use of to suppress them yet they have protection from the penalty of the Law as I conceive by this clause The practise of the Church of England To clear this let it be considered 1. What is the Church of England The best way to know this is to consider the Doctrine of the Church of England declared in the 39 Articles and there the Church is thus defined Art 19 The Visible Church of Christ is a Congregation of faithful men in the which the pure Word of God is preached and the Sacraments be duly administred according to Christ's Ordinance and in all those things that of necessity are requisite to the same And if this be a true description of the Church of England which they that own the Articles I think should not deny then these Non-conformists are a considerable part of the Church of England For they are faithful men men that believe on the Lord Jesus Christ which I suppose is meant by faithful men in their Congregations the Word of God is preached in truth and purity the Sacraments are duly administred according to Christ's Ordinance in all things that of necessity are requisite to the same If these Non-conformists be not a part of the Church of England How and when and by whom were they excommunicated and cast out of the Church If any say they do not comply with the Discipline and Ceremonies of the Church I answer 1. In that definition which is given of the Church in the 19th Article there is nothing mentioned of the Discipline or Ceremonies As Mr. Rogers observes in his Exposition of the 39 Articles dedicated to the Arch-bishop of Canterbury His words are these Some and they many of them very godly men add Ecclesiastical Discipline for a note of the Visible Church but because the said Discipline in part is included in the marks here mentioned both we and in effect all well-ordered Churches over-pass it in this place as no taken simply of the Visible Church 2. The Church of England is not founded upon the Ceremonies or the Discipline but it is built upon the foundation of the Prophets and Apostles Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone And upon this foundation do these Non-conformist Ministers build as well as the Conformable Clergy and therefore are of the Church of England as well as they And if the Non-conformists be a considerable part of the Church of England how can these Informers swear their Religious exercises are in other manner than according to the practise
of the Church of England If any man will put such a harsh sense upon these words The practise of the Church of England that he will have none understood but the conformable part of the Church of England Yet in this sense it may be pleaded It is not contrary to the practise of the Church of England for men that have been brought up at the University and after their examination of their fitness for the work of the Ministry have been ordained and set apart thereunto with fasting and Prayer to preach sound Doctrine and before and after their Sermons to pray to God in the name of his Son for things agreeable to his Will which is the practise of these men But if it be said it is the practise of the conformable Clergy in England to use the forms of Prayer prescribed by the Liturgy which these men do not I answer It is the practise of the Ministers of the Church of England to pray with other Prayers when in their Pulpits both before and after Sermon than what are prescribed in the Liturgy so that praying in other words and in another method than what is prescribed in the Liturgy either before or after Sermon in Publick Assemblies as the Non-conformists do is not contrary to the practise of the Church of England 2. Neither is praying and preaching without having the Liturgy read to the Assembly contrary to the practise of the Church of England For at Funeral Sermons the reading of the Liturgy is often omitted And it was the usual practise at the chiefest Church in Cambridge and I suppose still is continued where the Vice-Chancellor Masters and Fellows of Colledges and other Students assemble together to have praying and preaching both in the forenoon and afternoon every Sabbath-day without the use of the Liturgy in that Assembly Also when there is Concio ad Clerum which is frequent in Term time there is praying to God and preaching his Word without the use of the Liturgy And yet I suppose no man will say These are none of the Church of England 3. It is no crime to use different words and different methods in preaching so they that preach do preach sound Doctrine And why should it be esteemed such a great crime to use different forms and Methods in Prayer provided that they that pray pray to one and the same God in the name of one and the same Mediator for things agreeable to the Will of God 4. As for the Informers that plead they have Law for what they do if this were a truth which yet I will not grant them I would advise them to consider how contrary their practise is to the Laws of God I might name many instances I will mention but two or three Pro. 25.15 Lay not wait Oh wicked man against the dwelling of the righteous spoil not his resting-place Isa 16.3 4 Hide the out-cast bewray not him that wandreth Let my out-casts dwell with thee Moab be thou a covert to them from the face of the spoiler If Moab who was a stranger to the Common-wealth of Israel was to shew that humanity towards the Israelites when in a suffering condition as not to bewray him that wandred but to hide them permit them to dwell in safety to be a covert from the face of the spoiler Then what shall we say to them that profess themselves Christians and yet are so far from hiding and being a covert to the servants of God that they lye in wait to betray them and endeavour to spoil them of their goods Zech. 8.12 Let none of you imagine evil in your heart against his neighbour and love no false oath for all these are things that I hate saith the Lord. When you are contriving how you may do evil to these men you are doing that which the Lord hates The greatness of your sin and your contrariety to the Word of God hath been so fully set out in the former Chapter that I shall need to add no more on this head only I shall mention this The Laws by which we shall all be judged at the last day are the Laws of God and therefore we should do nothing here but what we can give a good account of at the day of Judgment Jam. 2.12 So speak ye and so do ye as they that shall be judged by the Law of Liberty Plea 6. If these men would preach and meet in Churches we would not molest them but we hate this meeting in houses and barns and such like places Ans 1. But why should you be so much offended at preaching in houses and other retired places when as our Lord Jesus Christ and his Apostles preached not only in the Temple and the Synagogues but in private houses and ships and other places where the people could come conveniently to hear them Jesus Christ preached in an house when there was as many as the house could hold even to the very doors Mark 2.1 2. It was noised that he was in the house And straight-way many were gathered together insomuch as there was no room to receive them no not so much as about the door and he preached the word unto them He preached out of a ship Luk. 5.3 He entred into one of the ships which was Simons and prayed him that he would thrust out a little from the Land and be sate down and taught the people out of the ship He preached sometime upon the mountains Matt. 5.1 2 And seeing the multitudes he got up into a mountain and when be was set his Disciples came unto him and he opened his mouth and taught them He did not decline preaching in any place where he had an opportunity to dispense the Word And as Jesus Christ so also his Disciples preached in houses as well as in the Temple and in the Synagogues Act. 5.42 And daily in the Temple and in every house they ceased not to teach and to preach Jesus Christ Act. 20.20 I kept back nothing from you but have shewed you and have taught you publickly and from house to house For the space of two years Paul preached in his own house and received all that came to him and no man forbade him Act. 28.30 31 And Paul dwelt two whole years in his own hired house and received all that came unto him preaching the Kingdom of God and teaching those things which concern the Lord Jesus Christ with all confidence no man forbidding him And sometimes their Meetings and Preachings were very private Gal. 2.2 Joh. 21.19 2. Could these men enjoy publick places to preach in they would choose them rather than private houses not that they place any holiness in them or think the worship of God more acceptable in one place than in another but because of the conveniency of them Act. 17.24 God that made the world and all things therein seeing he is Lord of heaven and earth dwelleth not in temples made with hands It 's the worship and worshipper that God looks
conversion of a sinner than to bring back the straying Oxe or Asse of an enemy on several accounts For 1. The Soul of a man is of more worth than all the Oxen and Asses upon the face of the earth yea the Soul of the meanest man is of greater value than the whole world Mark 8.36 What shall it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his own soul 2. It is far more dangerous for a sinner to go astray from God than an Oxe or an Asse to go astray from his owner For the Oxe that goeth from one Master may find another that may take care of it or the Oxe may get a subsistence by ranging abroad as well as abiding at home or if the straying Oxe should be slain its misery endeth with its life But the sinner that goeth astray from God unless he be brought to repentance will fall into the Lake that burneth with fire and brimstone and will perish eternally 3. God hath a greater right to the Souls of men than any man hath to his Oxen or Asses Ezek. 18.4 All souls are mine They are the work of his hands and therefore he may claim a greater propriety in them than any man can in those things which he hath bought with his money or calls his own on the account of any other title 4. We are more obliged to bring unto God who is our Soveraign Lord our heavenly Father our dearest Friend that which is his own when gone astray from him than we are to bring back to our enemy his Oxe or his Asse when we meet it going astray If then he that meeteth his enemies Oxe or Asse going astray be under a strict charge to bring it back Thou shait surely bring it back to him again how much more are we obliged to endeavour the conversion of a sinner when we meet him going astray from God though he be one of the greatest enemies we have in the-world When I had considered not only the swift destruction these Informers bring upon their own Souls but also what mischief they have already done and may further do unto men fearing God if not reclaimed how many they draw to be partakers with them in their sin what temptations needy and malicious men may be under to follow their pernicious ways what great guilt is brought upon the Nation by their means I thought with my self that the leading these men to repentance would conduce to a publick good as well as be an act of kindness to their own Souls and so was the more confirmed in my resolution to endeavour the converting them from the error of their ways The most effectual way to reclaim these men from their evil ways seems to me to be this To demonstrate out of the word of God the greatness and the dangerous nature of this sin which I conceive they either know not or at least do not consider it For that is the most powerful means that can be used for converting a sinner Psal 19.7 The Law of the Lord is perfect converting the soul If the word of God will not prevail with them to turn from their evil ways though one should arise from the dead either one of the Saints that hath been in heaven and should tell them what a glorious Kingdom they shall lose if they persist in their sins or one of their fellow sinners should come out of hell and tell them what torments they have felt in that Lake that burneth with fire and brimstone and they will certainly come into that place of torment if they go on in their evil ways yet this would not perswade them to repent Luk. 16.29 30 31. They have Moses and the Prophets let them hear them And he said nay father Abraham but if one went unto them from the dead they will repent And he said unto him If they hear not Moses and the Prophets neither will they be perswaded though one rose from the dead For my more orderly proceeding with these men I shall use this method 1. I shall shew what Informers I mean and aim at in this Discourse 2. I shall premise something concerning the persons whom they molest and the work for which they molest them 3. I shall by several arguments endeavour to convince them of the greatness of their sin 4. I shall answer their Plea's whereby they excuse their sin 5. I shall draw some Inferences for their and others instruction The Informers I design in this Discourse to convince of the evil of their ways are such as either for the love of money or out of malice or a blind zeal or any other evil principle under a pretence of suppressing seditious Conventicles go to the Assemblies where those Ministers commonly called Nonconformists do pray to God in the Name of Jesus Christ and do read the holy Scriptures and preach the Gospel and if they find them either Praying or Preaching they procure Officers to break up their Assemblies or else they go to the Magistrates and by the Information they give against those present at the foresaid Assemblies they stir them up either to imprison the Minister or to fine him or such of the people as they think good in great sums of money The reason why I deal with these Informers only that come to and raise up trouble against these Assemblies where those Ministers called Nonconformists pray to God and instruct the people are these 1. I have observed that their chief design and endeavour hath been to molest those Meetings 2. I have no knowledg what is said or done at other Meetings as never to my remembrance having been present at any of them and therefore will not justifie nor condemn them but shall leave that to those that are concerned therein In order to the conviction of these Informers of the evil of their ways I shall premise three Propositions 1. Those Ministers whom they persecute are righteous men and there are many righteous persons that frequent their Assemblies 2. Praying and preaching which are the works for which they are persecuted are good works 3. These Ministers that are persecuted by these Informers for praying and preaching are true Ministers of Jesus Christ and are called of God to preach the Gospel I shall briefly prove these three Propositions 1. These Ministers whom these Informers persecute are righteous men to evidence this consider 1. They are sound in the Faith they believe all things that are written by the Prophets and Apostles They imbrace that Faith which is professed in the Protestant Churches and particularly they own the established Doctrine of the Church of England although they have different apprehensions about the Discipline Soundness in the Faith is requisite to make a man a righteous man although that alone be not sufficient for Heresie is a work of the flesh which will shut a man out of the Kingdom of heaven as well as Idolatry Adultery Drunkenness or such like sins Gal. 5.19 20 21. 2. They are righteous
Gospel Every man that hath received talents from the Lord must occupy these talents in the place and station God hath set him in till the Lord takes him off from his work Luk. 19.13 He called his ten servants and delivered unto them ten pounds and said unto them occupy till I come 2. The preaching of God's Word is of greater necessity than our necessary food and if we be of Job's mind we shall esteem it so Job 23.12 I have esteemed the word of thy mouth more than my necessary food 3. Ahimilech might have answered David in the like manner David though thou art hungry there is no necessity I should give thee the Shew-bread there are houses enough where there is bread enough and to spare whither thou may'st go and be welcom and yet neither Ahimelech is reproved nor David for receiving the Shewbread 4. The great ignorance the growth of Atheisme Prophaneness Popery and other dangerous errors in this Nation sheweth a necessity of all the Ministers in the Nation both Conformists and Non-conformists if there were twice as many as there are to lay out themselves to the utmost in preaching the Gospel 9. Whereas the Informers plead they do not persecute these Ministers for praying and preaching but for breaking the Laws of the Nation this is but a vain excuse For 1. The work you find these men about is no other work but praying to God in the Name of Jesus Christ for things agreeable to his Will and preaching the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ or some other religious exercise and for these things you inform against them 2. If you found these men assembled at a Tavern with Bottles of Wine eating and drinking and making merry you would not molest them or if you found them at a play-house to see a Comedy Acted you would not molest them or if they were at a Coffee-house reading a Gazette hearing or telling of news or if you found them assembled at a Dancing-School or at a Fair or Market to buy or sell you would let them alone but if you find them praying or preaching you then make what hast you can to suppress their Meetings and to incense the Magistrate against them And yet will you say you do not persecute these men for praying and preaching 3. If it be your zeal for the Law that carries you out why do you not inform against Whore-mongers Drunkards Swearers Sabbath-breakers and other prophane Sinners who break the Laws of God and men yea why do you not pull the beam out of your own eyes and inform the Magistrate your selves one of another for the crimes against the Law that you are well-known to be guilty of before you go to pluck the mote out of these mens eyes 4. Whether those men break the Law in preaching and praying as you pretend shall be enquired in answer to another of your Pleas. Plea 3. If these men would conform or leave preaching we would not molest them Ans 1. Though these men cannot conform to those things which are imposed and required of such as enjoy Ecclesiastical promotions in this Nation yet the Informers ought not to persecute them for preaching the Gospel though they be such as have a great zeal for conformity For several Reasons 1. Preaching the Gospel is of greater necessity than conformity to the Ceremonies which are acknowledged by the greatest Patrons of them to be but indifferent things 2. Following Christ and his Disciples was of greater consequence than conformity to that which is imposed on such as enjoy Ecclesiastical promotions yet when John saw one casting out Devils and out of his zeal to Christ forbade him Christ reproved him for it Luk. 9.49 And John answered and said Master we saw one casting out Devils in thy name and we forbade him because he followeth not with us and Jesus said Forbid him not for he that is not against us is for us 3. These men cannot conform to the Ceremonies and those other things which are imposed on publick Ministers without sin For suppose these men were under a mistake and there was nothing required but what was lawful yet they judging these things unlawful they cannot comply with them without sin Rom. 14.14 To him that esteemeth any thing unclean to him it is unclean 4. These men conform to the Law of God and to the Doctrine of the Church though they do not conform to the Ceremonies of the Church whereas many that conform to the Ceremonies of the Church are of debauched conversations and live in the transgression of the Laws of God and some are of corrupt judgments And the zeal of the Informers should carry them out rather against such as corrupt the Doctrine than those that scruple the Ceremonies of the Church for the Doctrine of the Church is of more value than all the Ceremonies that being of a divine Revelation these of humane invention that being of necessity to Salvation these being as the chief Patrons of them contend only for order and decency in the worship of God and against such as transgress the Laws of God rather than those that transgress as they say the Laws of men 2. Whereas the Informers would have these men leave Preaching they cannot do so unless they would bring upon themselves the curse of God and of men There is a wo from God against such as are called to preach the Gospel and yet neglect it 1 Cor. 9.16 Yea wo is me if I preach not the Gospel And men would curse them also Prov. 11.26 He that withholdeth corn the people shall curse him But blessing shall be upon the head of him that selleth it The mystical sence of this Proverb several interpreters understand of such as withhold the publishing of the Word they will bring a curse upon themselves but they that dispense it faithfully shall receive a blessing De Doctrinâ cibo animorum intelligi potest juxta mysticum sensum qui abscondit talentum non pascit gregem sibi commissum Maledictus est R. Baynus Samuel thought he should sin if he should cease praying for and instructing the people 1 Sam. 12.13 Moreover as for me God forbid I should sin against the Lord in ceasing to pray for you but I will teach you the good and the right may yet the Elders of Israel had rejected Samael from bearing rule over them 1 Sam. 8.5 7. So these men though they have been cast out of their possessions and from their publick places they should sin against the Lord if they should cease praying for and instructing the people when the Providence of God puts opportunities into their hands of praying with them and teaching them the good ways of the Lord. Plea 4. If these men can't satisfie their Consciences without preaching let them preach in their Families and to four or five more of their Neighbours and in so doing they shall fulfil the Law of God and not transgress the Laws of the Nation and then we
famine in the days of David three years year after year And David enquired of the Lord and the Lord answered it is for Saul and his bloody house because he slew the Gibeonites Now the Gibeonites were not of the children of Israel but of the remnant of the Amorites and the children of Israel had sworn unto them And Saul sought to slay them in his zeal to the children of Israel and Judah 3. Those alms which you give to the poor out of these mens estates that are fined for meeting together to pray to God and to hear his Word are no way acceptable to God For 1. He loves judgment and righteousness and hates those Sacrifices which are taken by Robbery from other men and then presented to him for a Sacrifice Is 61.8 For I the Lord love judgment and hate Robbery for burnt-offering 2. He that would give alms which may be acceptable to God must give alms of what he getteth righteously Matt. 6.1 Take heed that ye do not your alms before men to be seen of them Some copies render it 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 as Beza observes Take heed you do not your righteousness before men Alms may be called righteousness because they must be of goods honestly and righteously gotten Your alms We must give alms out of our own not other mens estates 4. Those that sought to build up Zion with blood took the ready way to destroy Zion Mic. 3.10 12 They build up Zion with blood and Jerusalem with iniquity Therefore shall Zion for your sake be ploughed as a field and Jerusalem shall become heaps Plea 11. We hate these men and know not how to find an occasion against them except it be in the matters of their God and this is a ready way to be avenged of them Ans 1. If you hate these men then you are Murtherers in God's account and shall have no part in his Kingdom 1 Joh. 3.15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murtherer and ye know that no murtherer hath eternal life abiding in him 2. Though men cannot see the spite that is in your hearts but it may be covered over with fair pretences yet God seeth it and he will requite it Ps 10.14 Thou hast seen it For thou beholdest mischief and spite to requite it with thy hand 3. Suppose any that come to these Meetings have done you wrong yet you ought not to avenge your selves but to overcome evil with good Rom. 12.19 21 Dearly beloved avenge not your selves but rather give place unto wrath for it is written Vengeance is mine and I will repay saith the Lord. Be not overcome of evil but overcome evil with good Much less should you for the offence of one man seek to be revenged of an Assembly of men As Haman when he had taken offence at Mordecai sought to be avenged of the whole race of the Jews which proved his overthrow Plea 12. We think may others say that some of these men are righteous persons and mean well but they disturb the peace of the Church and their preaching causeth division in the Church for by their means are Families divided and some go one way and some another And this makes us labour to suppress them because the good of the Church is to be preferred above the good of particular persons Ans 1. If you grant these men to be righteous men you had need take heed how you persecute them What Job said to his friends Job 19.28 But ye should say why persecute we him seeing the root of the matter is in him That you should say why persecute we these men seeing the root of the matter is in them seeing they are of the same faith with us and walk in the fear of God 2. If by the Church you understand the body of Christians who embrace the Doctrine of the Gospel and walk in all the Ordinances and Commandments of the Lord Jesus then these men are a great part of the Church and are not the disturbers of the Churches peace For whom do they molest whom do they persecute They are desirous to live at peace among themselves and to have peace with all men as much as in them is These Informers and their adherents are the disturbers of the Churches peace who persecute men professing Faith in Christ and walking in all the Ordinances of the Gospel for worshipping God If by the Church you mean the Pastors and Teachers of the Church these men do not molest the conformable Clergy in their executing their Ministerial office As for such of them as are sound in the Faith holy in their Lives faithful Preachers of God's holy Word They say the Blessing of the Lord be upon them and rejoyce to hear when they convert Souls to Christ And in this sense also Informers are the disturbers of the Church for their great design is to molest and persecute the Pastors and Teachers among the Non-conformists rather than any other persons 3. Great divisions arose in the Jewish Church upon the preaching of the Lord Jesus Christ Families were divided upon his preaching some were for him others were against him Fathers against their children and children against their fathers Luk. 11.51 52 53. Suppose you that I am come to give peace on earth I tell you nay but rather division For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided three against two and two against three The Father shall be divided against the Son and the Son against the Father The Mother against the Daughter and the Daughter against her Mother The Mother-in-law against the Daughter-in-law and the Daughter-in-Law against the Mother-in-law Was Jesus Christ to be suppressed was his preaching to be blamed because of these divisions that followed upon it Far be it from any man to say or think so In like manner if divisions and distentions arise in Families and among Relations upon the preaching of the Ministers of Christ neither they are to be suppressed nor their Ministers to be blamed Yea it may be further added that the preaching of the Conformist Ministers also doth cause dissentions and divisions in Families and Parishes when many Families in one Parish will repair to hear the Ministers of another Parish and that in great numbers so that some Congregations where Ministers are eminent are thronged others scarce any hearers at all yea in the same Families in London and other places several in the same Family do repair to several conforming Ministers of other Parishes And some Persons of Quality zealous too for Uniformity do constantly desert their own Ministers to hear some other they better approve of taking all or the greatest part of their Families with them and for years together yet I suppose these Informers judg not themselves obliged out of their love of the Churches peace to prosecute these Ministers and their hearers the one for preaching and the other hearing Plea 13. We are convinced we have done evil but you should not have reproved us so