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idolatry_n have_v be_v manage_v against_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n by_o the_o great_a and_o most_o learned_a defender_n of_o it_o ever_o since_o the_o reformation_n but_o if_o he_o have_v such_o a_o regard_n as_o he_o say_v for_o the_o church_n of_o england_n why_o do_v he_o not_o appeal_v to_o her_o 39_o article_n for_o as_o himself_o say_v p._n 209._o of_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n that_o we_o be_v to_o appeal_v for_o it_o not_o to_o the_o write_n of_o particular_a doctor_n but_o to_o the_o decree_n of_o her_o council_n so_o in_o like_a manner_n for_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n he_o ought_v to_o have_v appeal_v to_o her_o publicly-authorized_n article_n but_o in_o they_o the_o church_n of_o england_n declare_v no_o such_o thing_n for_o we_o see_v it_o hot_o dispute_v between_o her_o
not_o image_n reinforce_v pag._n 33._o chap._n 4._o the_o doctor_n be_v second_a proof_n from_o the_o reason_n of_o the_o law_n sophistical_a all_o representation_n of_o god_n not_o dishonourable_a to_o he_o nor_o reject_v as_o such_o by_o the_o church_n of_o england_n the_o proper_a reason_n of_o the_o law_n on_o god_n part_n be_v assign_v and_o assert_v to_o be_v the_o supreme_a excellency_n of_o his_o nature_n pag._n 57_o chap._n 5._o worship_n unlawful_a by_o the_o light_n of_o nature_n equal_o unlawful_a to_o jew_n and_o christian_n a_o strange_a paradox_n advance_v by_o dr._n stillingfleet_n viz._n what_o can_v a_o image_n do_v to_o the_o heighten_v devotion_n or_o raise_v affection_n how_o far_o his_o devotion_n to_o the_o sun_n may_v be_v allow_v in_o the_o judgement_n of_o st._n leo._n pag._n 76._o chap._n 6._o of_o the_o notion_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o wise_a heathen_n in_o the_o matter_n of_o their_o image_n the_o text_n of_o st._n paul_n act_v 17._o 24._o and_o rom._n 1._o 21._o explain_v some_o of_o the_o doctor_n be_v testimony_n examine_v in_o particular_a the_o relation_n he_o give_v of_o what_o the_o jesuit_n do_v in_o china_n pag._n 95._o chap._n 7._o of_o the_o 2d_o general_n council_n of_o nice_a call_v most_o irreverent_o by_o dr._n st._n that_o wise_a synod_n his_o constantinopolitan_a father_n objection_n answer_v by_o epiphanius_n and_o his_o answer_n show_v to_o be_v goâ—d_v pag._n 118._o chap._n 8._o the_o dr.'s_n objection_n from_o the_o council_n of_o frankford_n examine_v and_o show_v to_o be_v no_o advantage_n to_o his_o cause_n pag._n 140._o chap._n 9_o of_o the_o doctor_n be_v three_o proof_n from_o the_o judgement_n as_o he_o pretend_v of_o the_o lawgiver_n his_o speculation_n concern_v the_o golden_a calf_n manifest_o repugnant_a to_o the_o h._n scripture_n and_o father_n mr._n thorndike'_v judgement_n of_o the_o mean_v and_o extent_n of_o the_o second_o commandment_n pag._n 153._o chap._n 10._o what_o kind_n of_o honour_n the_o church_n give_v to_o holy_a image_n explain_v and_o the_o doctor_n be_v mix_v school-disputes_a with_o matter_n of_o faith_n show_v to_o be_v sophistical_a pag._n 176._o chap._n 11._o of_o the_o instance_n bring_v to_o explicate_v the_o nature_n of_o the_o honour_n give_v to_o image_n from_o the_o like_a reverence_n give_v to_o the_o chair_n of_o state_n to_o the_o ground_n to_o the_o ark_n to_o the_o name_n of_o jesus_n etc._n etc._n the_o weakness_n of_o the_o doctor_n be_v evasion_n lay_v open_a and_o his_o own_o argument_n return_v upon_o he_o pag._n 193._o part_n ii_o of_o the_o adoration_n of_o the_o most_o bless_a sacrament_n chap._n 1._o the_o practice_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n in_o this_o point_n the_o doctor_n be_v argument_n to_o prove_v it_o to_o be_v idolatry_n build_v upon_o a_o injurious_a calumny_n that_o catholic_n believe_v the_o bread_n to_o be_v god_n the_o sense_n of_o his_o first_o proposition_n clear_v and_o the_o proof_n he_o bring_v for_o it_o refute_v pag._n 221._o chap._n 2._o the_o true_a state_n of_o the_o controversy_n lay_v open_a together_o with_o the_o doctor_n be_v endeavour_v to_o misrepresent_v it_o his_o manner_n of_o argue_v against_o the_o adoration_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o eucharist_n equal_o destructive_a to_o the_o adoration_n of_o he_o as_o god_n pag._n 243._o chap._n 3._o of_o dr._n st.'s_n scruple_n about_o the_o host_n not_o be_v consecrate_v for_o want_n of_o intention_n in_o the_o priest_n and_o his_o mistake_n of_o the_o true_a reason_n of_o give_v adoration_n to_o christ_n in_o the_o sacrament_n pag._n 256._o chap._n 4._o his_o fundamental_a principle_n of_o judge_v of_o matter_n propose_v to_o our_o belief_n by_o sense_n and_o reason_n show_v to_o be_v absurd_a in_o itself_o and_o destructive_a to_o christianity_n p._n 272._o chap._n 5._o a_o check_n to_o the_o doctor_n be_v big_a word_n against_o the_o ground_n of_o transubstantiation_n with_o a_o new_a example_n of_o report_v faithful_o as_o he_o call_v it_o the_o word_n and_o sense_n of_o a_o author_n pag._n 294._o chap._n 6._o dr._n tailor_n be_v argument_n in_o behalf_n of_o catholic_n suppose_v they_o mistake_v in_o the_o belief_n of_o transubstantiation_n not_o answer_v by_o dr._n st._n the_o parallel_n of_o such_o a_o suppose_a mistake_n with_o that_o of_o idolater_n show_v to_o be_v a_o real_a and_o very_a gross_a mistake_n in_o himself_o pag._n 317._o part_n iii_o of_o the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n chap._n 1._o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n in_o this_o point_n suppose_v by_o dr._n st._n to_o be_v idolatry_n but_o not_o prove_v the_o disparity_n between_o the_o worship_n give_v by_o catholic_n to_o the_o saint_n and_o that_o of_o the_o heathen_n to_o their_o inferior_a deity_n lay_v open_a pag._n 333._o chap._n 2._o what_o kind_n of_o honour_n catholic_n give_v to_o the_o saint_n the_o testimony_n of_o origen_n and_o st._n ambrose_n explain_v of_o the_o practice_n of_o make_v address_n to_o 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3._o i_o remember_v i_o promise_v to_o speak_v to_o this_o point_n when_o it_o shall_v be_v proper_a viz._n in_o handle_v the_o second_o question_n whether_o it_o be_v necessary_a to_o be_v a_o member_n of_o some_o distinct_a church_n where_o it_o come_v in_o order_n and_o i_o do_v so_o though_o my_o adversary_n take_v no_o notice_n of_o it_o here_o as_o far_o as_o be_v pertinent_a to_o the_o present_a purpose_n when_o upon_o his_o grant_n that_o a_o christian_a by_o virtue_n of_o his_o be_v so_o be_v bind_v to_o join_v in_o some_o church_n and_o to_o choose_v the_o communion_n of_o the_o pure_a i_o subjoin_v that_o that_o church_n be_v to_o be_v judge_v the_o pure_a which_o have_v the_o strong_a motive_n for_o it_o and_o then_o lay_v down_o a_o catalogue_n of_o such_o weighty_a motive_n for_o the_o roman_n catholic_n allow_v by_o dr._n taylor_n 20._o to_o which_o i_o add_v that_o neither_o himself_n in_o his_o defence_n nor_o dr._n taylor_n when_o he_o have_v a_o mind_n to_o invalidate_v they_o produce_v any_o thing_n to_o weigh_v against_o they_o but_o a_o few_o tinsel-word_n 550._o and_o one_o scripture-testimony_n interpret_v by_o and_o according_a to_o their_o own_o fancy_n have_v do_v this_o they_o sing_v io_n triumph_n that_o thou_o shall_v not_o worship_v any_o grave_a image_n will_n outweigh_v all_o the_o best_a and_o fair_a imagination_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n and_o now_o let_v the_o reader_n judge_n whether_o he_o have_v any_o reason_n to_o say_v that_o he_o can_v not_o procure_v a_o answer_n to_o this_o question_n though_o he_o have_v often_o request_v it_o §_o 4._o but_o because_o he_o seem_v so_o little_o satisfy_v with_o this_o answer_n as_o to_o take_v no_o notice_n of_o it_o i_o shall_v now_o enforce_v it_o far_o with_o this_o argument_n ad_fw-la hominem_fw-la there_o be_v in_o the_o world_n before_o luther_n a_o distinct_a church_n who_o communion_n be_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n but_o this_o be_v not_o the_o protestant_n therefore_o it_o be_v the_o roman_a the_o major_n be_v evident_a from_o his_o own_o concession_n that_o a_o christian_n by_o virtue_n of_o his_o be_v so_o be_v bind_v to_o join_v in_o some_o distinct_a church_n which_o be_v not_o possible_a if_o there_o be_v not_o such_o a_o distinct_a church_n to_o join_v with_o the_o minor_a also_o that_o this_o be_v not_o the_o protestant_n be_v manifest_a because_o before_o luther_n there_o be_v no_o such_o church_n in_o the_o world_n distinct_a from_o the_o roman_a it_o follow_v therefore_o the_o question_n between_o he_o and_o we_o be_v of_o the_o necessity_n of_o communion_n either_o with_o the_o roman_a or_o with_o the_o protestant_n that_o of_o the_o two_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v and_o still_o be_v as_o remain_v still_o the_o same_o that_o church_n who_o communion_n be_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n §_o 5._o again_o take_v the_o term_n roman-church_n not_o only_o for_o the_o particular_a diocese_n of_o rome_n but_o for_o the_o church_n also_o in_o communion_n with_o it_o as_o the_o head_n as_o we_o general_o take_v it_o in_o this_o controversy_n nothing_o can_v render_v her_o communion_n not_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n but_o either_o heresy_n that_o be_v a_o adhesion_n to_o some_o private_a or_o singular_a opinion_n or_o error_n in_o faith_n or_o schism_n that_o be_v a_o separation_n from_o former_a ecclesiastical_a unity_n for_o the_o first_o my_o adversary_n himself_o rat._n account_v p._n 54._o acknowledge_v as_o i_o shall_v show_v before_o i_o end_v this_o chapter_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o believe_v all_o the_o same_o article_n of_o faith_n with_o the_o protestant_n and_o that_o the_o point_n in_o which_o the_o protestant_n differ_v from_o the_o roman_a be_v not_o article_n of_o faith_n consequent_o the_o opposite_a tenet_n to_o they_o can_v be_v no_o
error_n in_o faith_n with_o he_o and_o for_o the_o second_o if_o he_o will_v make_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n guilty_a of_o schism_n he_o must_v assign_v some_o other_o distinct_a church_n then_o at_o least_o in_o be_v from_o who_o unity_n she_o depart_v which_o i_o think_v be_v never_o pretend_v i_o be_o sure_a can_v never_o be_v perform_v as_o for_o the_o charge_n of_o causal_a schism_n that_o be_v the_o church_n have_v give_v just_a cause_n for_o separation_n the_o common_a plea_n of_o all_o separatist_n by_o impose_v as_o be_v pretend_v new_a article_n of_o faith_n and_o some_o of_o they_o idolatrous_a as_o it_o imply_v a_o acknowledgement_n of_o the_o fact_n of_o schism_n that_o be_v of_o break_v church-unity_n to_o be_v on_o the_o protestant_n side_n so_o till_o the_o accusation_n be_v make_v good_a and_o judge_v so_o by_o some_o other_o more_o competent_a judge_n than_o themselves_o they_o stand_v arraign_v of_o the_o crime_n of_o schism_n also_o for_o break_v communion_n with_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n §_o 6._o last_o not_o to_o spend_v too_o much_o time_n in_o a_o digression_n and_o yet_o satisfy_v his_o desire_n and_o if_o not_o he_o the_o reader_n why_o the_o believe_a all_o the_o ancient_a creed_n and_o lead_v a_o good_a life_n may_v not_o be_v sufficient_a to_o salvation_n unless_o one_o be_v of_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n i_o argue_v thus_o a_o christian_a by_o virtue_n of_o his_o be_v so_o be_v bind_v to_o be_v of_o the_o communion_n of_o that_o church_n which_o evident_o be_v the_o true_a one_o and_o the_o pure_a until_o it_o be_v as_o evident_o at_o least_o if_o not_o more_o evident_o prove_v not_o to_o be_v so_o for_o otherwise_o he_o wrong_v both_o his_o reason_n and_o conscience_n if_o he_o leave_v a_o great_a evidence_n and_o adhere_v to_o a_o lesser_a but_o the_o roman_a church_n as_o comprehend_v all_o those_o in_o communion_n with_o she_o by_o the_o testimony_n not_o only_o of_o s._n paul_n rom._n c._n 1._o and_o c._n 16._o but_o of_o the_o whole_a christian_a world_n of_o all_o age_n be_v evident_o once_o the_o only_a true_a church_n of_o christ_n and_o conseqent_o the_o pure_a and_o neither_o have_v nor_o can_v be_v as_o evident_o much_o less_o more_o evident_o prove_v not_o to_o be_v so_o still_o since_o the_o testimony_n of_o those_o who_o do_v or_o will_v deny_v it_o be_v incomparable_o short_a of_o the_o former_a therefore_o a_o christian_a by_o virtue_n of_o his_o be_v so_o be_v bind_v to_o be_v of_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n §_o 7._o have_v thus_o not_o only_o give_v one_o but_o more_o reason_n to_o his_o demand_n which_o i_o hearty_o pray_v may_v do_v he_o good_a because_o he_o request_v so_o earnest_o to_o know_v they_o i_o can_v but_o reflect_v how_o specious_o soever_o it_o have_v be_v hitherto_o pretend_v against_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n that_o the_o believe_v all_o the_o ancient_a creed_n and_o lead_v a_o good_a life_n be_v all_o that_o be_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n yet_o now_o there_o be_v more_o require_v by_o he_o viz._n to_o join_v in_o some_o church_n or_o congregation_n of_o christian_n by_o virtue_n of_o a_o man_n be_v a_o christian_n and_o that_o he_o be_v bind_v to_o choose_v the_o communion_n of_o the_o pure_a church_n by_o which_o i_o will_v suppose_v at_o present_a he_o mean_v the_o church_n of_o england_n i_o hope_v i_o may_v without_o offence_n take_v the_o same_o liberty_n with_o he_o which_o he_o do_v with_o i_o and_o desire_v if_o not_o for_o my_o own_o sake_n at_o least_o for_o the_o satisfaction_n of_o the_o presbyterian_o anabaptist_n and_o other_o separate_a congregation_n to_o know_v one_o reason_n from_o he_o why_o the_o believe_a all_o the_o ancient_a creed_n and_o lead_v a_o good_a life_n may_v not_o be_v sufficient_a to_o salvation_n unless_o one_o be_v of_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n i_o confess_v i_o may_v be_v mistake_v to_o suppose_v he_o to_o mean_v by_o the_o pure_a church_n the_o church_n of_o england_n it_o be_v not_o improbable_a as_o will_v appear_v in_o the_o follow_a discourse_n that_o he_o mean_v that_o of_o the_o presbyterian_o but_o let_v he_o mean_v which_o he_o will_v it_o come_v all_o to_o the_o same_o pass_n i_o leave_v he_o to_o satisfy_v all_o other_o sectary_n why_o they_o be_v bind_v by_o virtue_n of_o their_o christianity_n to_o join_v in_o either_o of_o those_o two_o congregation_n or_o if_o not_o in_o they_o in_o any_o other_o which_o he_o fancy_v to_o be_v the_o pure_a which_o do_v i_o proceed_v to_o his_o second_o answer_n to_o the_o first_o question_n very_o fit_o call_v by_o he_o the_o main_a business_n because_o it_o serve_v he_o as_o a_o foundation_n to_o raise_v so_o many_o controversy_n upon_o as_o by_o his_o manner_n of_o treat_v they_o may_v frighten_v any_o one_o that_o shall_v but_o look_v towards_o the_o roman_a church_n into_o despair_n of_o ever_o get_v out_o of_o so_o intricate_a a_o labyrinth_n §_o 8._o his_o second_o answer_n to_o the_o first_a question_n be_v that_o all_o those_o who_o be_v in_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n do_v run_v so_o great_a a_o hazard_n of_o their_o salvation_n that_o none_o who_o have_v a_o care_n of_o their_o soul_n aught_o to_o embrace_v it_o or_o continue_v in_o it_o because_o they_o must_v be_v guilty_a either_o of_o hypocrisy_n or_o idolatry_n sin_n inconsistent_a with_o salvation_n this_o i_o say_v be_v as_o little_a pertinent_a to_o the_o question_n as_o the_o former_a for_o though_o it_o be_v suppose_v that_o none_o ought_v to_o embrace_v or_o continue_v in_o the_o catholic_n church_n by_o reason_n of_o the_o great_a hazard_n he_o say_v they_o run_v of_o their_o salvation_n yet_o if_o they_o do_v embrace_v it_o why_o may_v they_o not_o be_v equal_o save_v that_o be_v with_o equal_a hazard_n to_o this_o he_o return_v that_o he_o be_v amaze_v i_o shall_v say_v this_o answer_n of_o his_o be_v not_o pertinent_a to_o the_o question_n 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he_o for_o a_o occasion_n to_o bring_v the_o whole_a body_n of_o controversy_n into_o the_o field_n and_o give_v a_o treble_a charge_n of_o idolatry_n against_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n viz._n in_o worship_v of_o image_n adoration_n of_o the_o host_n and_o invocation_n of_o saint_n there_o want_v not_o learned_a and_o eminent_a man_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n who_o think_v the_o charge_n to_o be_v over_o great_a and_o there_o need_v no_o more_o than_o his_o own_o principle_n to_o make_v the_o metal_n of_o his_o proof_n appear_v of_o too_o inferior_a a_o alloy_n to_o bear_v it_o which_o thus_o i_o show_v §_o 9_o in_o his_o rational_a account_n of_o the_o ground_n of_o protestant_a religion_n pag._n 54._o he_o lay_v down_o the_o state_n of_o the_o difference_n
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