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A66174 A discourse of the Holy Eucharist, in the two great points of the real presence and the adoration of the Host in answer to the two discourses lately printed at Oxford on this subject : to which is prefixed a large historical preface relating to the same argument. Wake, William, 1657-1737. 1687 (1687) Wing W240; ESTC R4490 116,895 178

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that_o it_o can_v not_o 5._o it_o be_v evident_a that_o some_o of_o they_o do_v err_v forasmuch_o as_o the_o very_a it_o very_a in_o the_o first_o formulary_a prescribe_v he_o by_o p._n nicholas_n 2._o in_o the_o siynod_n of_o rome_n 1059._o he_o thus_o declare_v panem_fw-la &_o vinum_fw-la quae_fw-la in_o altari_fw-la ponuntur_fw-la post_fw-la consecrationem_fw-la non_fw-la solum_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la sed_fw-la etiam_fw-la verum_fw-la corpus_fw-la &_o sanguinem_fw-la d._n n._n j._n christi_fw-la esse_fw-la &_o sensualiter_fw-la non_fw-la solùm_fw-la sacramento_n say_v in_o veritate_fw-la manibus_fw-la sacerdotum_fw-la tractari_fw-la frangi_fw-la &_o fidelium_fw-la dentibus_fw-la atteri_fw-la the_o former_a part_n of_o which_o confession_n be_v lutheran_n the_o latter_a utter_o deny_v by_o the_o c._n of_o r._n at_o this_o day_n in_o the_o second_o formulary_a prescribe_v he_o by_o gregory_n viith_o 1078._o confiteor_fw-la panem_fw-la &_o vinum_fw-la converti_fw-la in_o veram_fw-la ac_fw-la propriam_fw-la carnem_fw-la &_o sanguinem_fw-la j._n c._n d._n n._n et_fw-la post_fw-la consecrationem_fw-la esse_fw-la verum_fw-la corpus_fw-la christi_fw-la non_fw-la tantùm_fw-la per_fw-la signum_fw-la &_o virtutem_fw-la sacramenti_fw-la sed_fw-la in_o proprietate_fw-la naturae_fw-la &_o veritate_fw-la substantiae_fw-la this_o speak_v of_o a_o conversion_n but_o of_o what_o kind_n it_o say_v not_o and_o lombard_n and_o the_o other_o schoolman_n to_o the_o very_a time_n of_o the_o council_n of_o lateran_n be_v not_o agree_v about_o it_o and_o p._n gregory_n himself_o in_o his_o ms._n work_v upon_o st._n ma●_n know_v not_o what_o to_o think_v of_o it_o formulary_n of_o recantation_n prescribe_v to_o berengarius_fw-la do_v not_o agree_v the_o one_o with_o the_o other_o and_o one_o of_o they_o be_v such_o that_o their_o own_o asseruit_fw-la own_o jo._n semeca_n ad_fw-la can._n ego_fw-la berengar_fw-la not_o ad_fw-la jus_fw-la canon_n nisi_fw-la sanè_fw-la intelligas_fw-la verba_fw-la berengarii_fw-la in_o majorem_fw-la incides_fw-la haeresim_fw-la quam_fw-la ipse_fw-la habuit_fw-la &_o ideò_fw-la onmia_fw-la referas_fw-la ad_fw-la species_n ipsas_fw-la nam_fw-la de_fw-la christi_fw-la corpore_fw-la part_n non_fw-la facimus_fw-la so_o hervaeus_n in_o 4._o do_v qu._n 1._o art_n 1._o say_v that_o to_o speak_v the_o more_o express_o against_o the_o heretic_n be_v decline_v a_o little_a too_o much_o to_o the_o opposite_a side_n so_o ricardus_n de_fw-fr media_n villa_n in_o 4._o do_v princip_n 1._o qu._n 1._o berengarius_fw-la suerat_fw-la infamatus_fw-la quòd_fw-la non_fw-la credebat-corpus_a christi_fw-la realiter_fw-la contineri_fw-la sub_fw-la pane_fw-la ideò_fw-la ad_fw-la svi_fw-la purgationem_fw-la per_fw-la verba_fw-la excessiva_fw-la contrarium_fw-la asseruit_fw-la author_n tell_v we_o it_o must_v be_v very_o favourable_o interpret_v or_o it_o will_v lead_v we_o into_o a_o worse_a error_n than_o that_o which_o it_o condemn_v 6._o be_v they_o never_o so_o infallible_a yet_o they_o none_o of_o they_o define_v transubstantiation_n but_o only_o a_o corporal_a presence_n and_o so_o whatever_o authority_n they_o have_v it_o be_v for_o the_o lutheran_n not_o the_o papist_n 7._o and_o this_o their_o own_o writer_n seem_v to_o own_o forasmuch_o as_o none_o of_o they_o pretend_v to_o any_o definition_n of_o transubstantiation_n before_o the_o council_n of_o lateran_n and_o till_o which_o time_n they_o free_o confess_v it_o be_v no_o article_n of_o faith._n such_o be_v the_o church_n authority_n which_o this_o discourser_n will_v put_v upon_o we_o but_o now_o that_o i_o have_v mention_v the_o council_n of_o lateran_n as_o i_o have_v before_o observe_v 28._o pag._n 28._o that_o it_o be_v the_o same_o council_n which_o establish_v this_o error_n that_o also_o give_v power_n to_o the_o pope_n to_o depose_v prince_n and_o absolve_v their_o subject_n from_o their_o obedience_n so_o i_o can_v but_o remak_n further_o in_o this_o place_n the_o zeal_n of_o our_o author_n in_o the_o defence_n of_o its_o authority_n it_o be_v but_o a_o very_a little_a while_n since_o another_o of_o their_o church_n etc._n church_n lond._n 1616._o pag._n 362_o etc._n etc._n father_n walsh_n in_o his_o letter_n to_o the_o bishop_n of_o lincoln_n do_v not_o think_v that_o the_o 31._o the_o mr._n dodwel_n consid_fw-la of_o present_a concernment_n concernment_n 31._o learned_a person_n of_o our_o church_n to_o who_o he_o refer_v we_o have_v so_o clear_o prove_v these_o canon_n to_o have_v be_v the_o genuine_a 4._o genuine_a mounseur_fw-fr du_fw-fr pin_n utter_o deny_v these_o canon_n to_o have_v be_v the_o decree_n of_o the_o council_n dissert_n seven_o c._n iii._o iii._o 4._o act_n either_o of_o the_o council_n or_o even_o of_o the_o papist_n himself_o but_o that_o a_o man_n may_v still_o have_v reason_n to_o doubt_v of_o both_o but_o indeed_o though_o that_o father_n be_v of_o another_o mould_n yet_o there_o be_v still_o some_o in_o the_o world_n and_o i_o believe_v of_o this_o author_n acquaintance_n who_o like_o this_o council_n never_o the_o worse_o for_o such_o a_o decision_n but_o think_v the_o three_o canon_n as_o necessary_a to_o keep_v prince_n in_o a_o due_a obedience_n to_o the_o church_n as_o the_o first_o de_fw-fr fide_fw-la catholià_fw-la to_o help_v out_o the_o obscurity_n of_o the_o text_n in_o favour_n of_o transubstantiation_n but_o he_o go_v on_o twenty-five_o pag._n 28_o 29._o 29._o twenty-five_o and_o upon_o these_o premise_n ask_v we_o what_o more_o reasonable_a or_o secure_a course_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n can_v a_o private_a and_o true_o humble_a christian_a take_v than_o where_o the_o sense_n of_o a_o divine_a revelation_n be_v dispute_v to_o submit_v to_o that_o interpretation_n thereof_o which_o the_o supreme_a authority_n in_o the_o church_n that_o have_v heretofore_o be_v convene_v about_o such_o matter_n have_v so_o often_o and_o always_o in_o the_o same_o manner_n decide_v to_o he_o and_o 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etc._n etc._n albertinus_n de_fw-fr euch._n lib._n 3._o p._n 947._o author_n have_v full_o prove_v and_o this_o discourser_n therefore_o aught_o to_o have_v answer_v iii_o ground_n but_o now_o he_o say_v xxvi_o p._n 29._o 29._o xxvi_o if_o these_o council_n be_v decline_v as_o not_o be_v so_o ancient_a as_o some_o may_v expect_v i._n e._n not_o hold_v before_o some_o controversy_n happen_v in_o the_o church_n touch_v the_o point_n they_o decide_v they_o have_v yet_o another_o very_a rational_a ground_n of_o their_o belief_n and_o that_o be_v the_o evident_a testimony_n of_o the_o more_o primitive_a time_n it_o will_v have_v be_v more_o to_o the_o purpose_n if_o he_o can_v honest_o have_v say_v of_o the_o most_o primitive_a time_n but_o however_o his_o modesty_n be_v the_o great_a now_o though_o his_o argument_n be_v not_o so_o strong_a as_o to_o the_o point_n of_o antiquity_n r._n treatise_n of_o transubstantiation_n by_o a_o author_n of_o the_o c._n of_o r._n i_o have_v already_o 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