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cite_v father_n against_o father_n sect._n 18_o but_o then_o this_o pamphlet_n will_v swell_v too_o much_o i_o will_v therefore_o conclude_v with_o that_o of_o the_o worthy_a dr._n crakanthorp_n 56._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 22._o 〈◊〉_d 56._o poteram_fw-la integras_fw-la patrum_fw-la phalanges_fw-la per_fw-la singula_fw-la saecula_fw-la agglomerare_fw-la vide_fw-la â—_o 15_o praestitum_fw-la a_o celeberrimo_fw-la blondello_n qui_fw-la omnes_fw-la velut_fw-la agmine_fw-la facto_fw-la suprematum_fw-la tuum_fw-la spalatensem_fw-la alloquitur_fw-la appugnent_fw-la sed_fw-la quidopus_fw-la dâ—â—rtho_fw-mi loxis_fw-la ad_fw-la unumomnthus_fw-la â—â—ipso_fw-la quâ—â—_n conciliis_fw-la quinque_fw-la primis_fw-la consensisse_fw-la eos_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la duâ—â—â—â—_n 〈…〉_o ab_fw-la omnibus_fw-la suprematum_fw-la istum_fw-la tuum_fw-la qui_fw-la in_o eâ—s_fw-la â—amnatur_fw-la anathematizari_fw-la in_o which_o one_o sentence_n he_o evince_v the_o concurrence_n of_o above_o 1000_o father_n beside_o some_o 1000_v more_o cite_v by_o he_o when_o he_o produce_v 26_o council_n for_o the_o condemnation_n of_o this_o supremacy_n of_o the_o pope_n and_o we_o can_v be_v content_v to_o be_v account_v heretic_n when_o we_o have_v six_o or_o seven_o thouâ—and_o father_n at_o the_o least_o that_o must_v be_v thrust_v into_o the_o catalogue_n yea_o the_o infallible_a church_n of_o god_n stablish_v by_o their_o reiterated_a decree_n this_o new-found_a heresy_n chap._n vii_o the_o argument_n from_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n large_o vindicate_v sect._n 1_o as_o also_o another_o from_o that_o of_o nice_n sect._n 2._o four_o council_n of_o carthage_n deny_v the_o pope_n supremacy_n sect._n 3_o so_o also_o do_v this_o second_o general_n council_n sect._n 4._o as_o also_o two_o british_a council_n sect._n 5._o i_o pass_v now_o to_o the_o vindication_n of_o what_o the_o worthy_a doctor_n bring_v against_o the_o usurpation_n of_o the_o pope_n supremacy_n over_o the_o world_n 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their_o decree_n or_o his_o contradiction_n sufficient_a to_o make_v they_o null_n as_o mr._n c._n pretend_v from_o a_o old_a canon_n the_o sense_n of_o which_o we_o have_v manifest_v above_o to_o be_v very_a alien_n from_o this_o business_n for_o otherwise_o these_o six_o hundred_o and_o thirty_o father_n will_v never_o have_v proceed_v to_o establish_v this_o decree_n for_o a_o ecclesiastical_a law_n which_o be_v make_v invito_fw-la &_o reclamante_fw-la pontifice_fw-la 6._o aetius_n archdeacon_n of_o constantinople_n make_v a_o relation_n how_o after_o matter_n of_o faith_n agree_v upon_o they_o proceed_v according_a to_o the_o manner_n to_o some_o constitution_n in_o these_o they_o desire_v the_o legate_n to_o join_v with_o they_o but_o they_o refuse_v say_v they_o have_v receive_v command_n from_o rome_n to_o do_v so_o which_o be_v remonstrate_v to_o the_o judge_n and_o their_o leave_n ask_v that_o the_o present_a council_n may_v determine_v the_o business_n they_o order_v that_o the_o council_n shall_v proceed_v and_o hereupon_o the_o decree_n be_v unanimous_o make_v 8_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 51._o s_o 8_o and_o it_o be_v appeal_v to_o they_o all_o whether_o it_o be_v not_o true_a nothing_o be_v do_v clancular_o or_o by_o stealth_n but_o of_o course_n regular_o and_o canonical_o whence_o we_o may_v collect_v 1._o what_o truth_n there_o be_v in_o that_o parenthesis_n of_o our_o author_n that_o the_o canon_n be_v compile_v by_o the_o bishop_n of_o constantinoples_n bargain_v with_o some_o bishop_n and_o violence_n to_o other_o whereas_o not_o only_o the_o council_n open_o contradict_v he_o but_o further_a when_o by_o the_o appointment_n of_o the_o judge_n and_o in_o the_o presence_n of_o the_o legate_n they_o that_o be_v most_o concern_v the_o bishop_n of_o asia_n pontus_n and_o thracia_n who_o be_v now_o bring_v under_o the_o patriarchate_o of_o constantinople_n be_v suppose_v former_o to_o be_v free_a be_v call_v out_o several_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o ask_v whether_o they_o have_v act_v under_o any_o force_n they_o several_o answer_v i_o subscribe_v willing_o as_o in_o the_o presence_n of_o god_n 2._o how_o ingenuous_o do_v our_o author_n deal_v in_o tell_v we_o that_o it_o be_v a_o infamous_a canon_n surreptious_o make_v after_o the_o departure_n of_o the_o judge_n the_o senate_n and_o of_o the_o legate_n of_o the_o see_v apostolic_a when_o from_o the_o act_n of_o the_o council_n it_o be_v evident_a 1._o that_o the_o legate_n be_v desire_v to_o be_v present_a and_o resused_a and_o that_o upon_o their_o appearance_n the_o day_n follow_v all_o their_o objection_n against_o the_o canon_n be_v take_v of_o and_o their_o pretence_n clear_o answer_v in_o the_o council_n 2._o 460._o council_n to._n 3_o p._n 460._o it_o be_v likewise_o evident_a that_o albeit_o the_o judge_n be_v then_o absent_a yet_o do_v they_o give_v order_n that_o the_o council_n shall_v proceed_v and_o that_o when_o on_o the_o morrow_n they_o 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d primacy_n of_o jurisdiction_n in_o their_o own_o province_n add_v to_o this_o the_o council_n follow_v who_o general_o thus_o interpret_v it_o nor_o be_v this_o supremacy_n condemn_v only_o by_o the_o nicene_n sect._n 3_o ephesine_n milevitan_n council_n and_o most_o evident_o by_o the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n 258._o an._n dom._n 258._o but_o also_o by_o the_o council_n of_o carthage_n under_o cyprian_a which_o thus_o decree_v that_o no_o man_n shall_v make_v himself_o bishop_n of_o bishop_n or_o go_v about_o tyrannical_o to_o enforce_v other_o to_o a_o necessity_n of_o obey_v see_v each_o bishop_n have_v his_o liberty_n and_o no_o one_o may_v judge_v another_o nor_o be_v judge_v of_o another_o but_o they_o must_v all_o be_v judge_v of_o god_n in_o which_o decree_n they_o direct_o strike_v at_o the_o priod_n of_o pope_n stephen_n who_o have_v style_v himself_o bishop_n of_o bishop_n and_o threaten_a excommunication_n to_o those_o that_o think_v otherwise_o 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be_v that_o eat_v his_o body_n but_o it_o be_v more_o clear_a concern_v the_o cup_n of_o which_o it_o be_v say_v this_o do_v as_o oft_o as_o you_o drink_v it_o in_o remembrance_n of_o i_o clear_o show_v that_o to_o do_v this_o be_v to_o drink_v the_o cup_n and_o with_o great_a evidence_n if_o possible_a from_o the_o 26._o verse_n where_o the_o apostle_n infer_v that_o we_o do_v this_o in_o remembrance_n of_o christ_n because_o as_o oft_o as_o we_o eat_v this_o bread_n and_o drink_v this_o cup_n we_o show_v forth_o the_o lord_n deâ—th_o till_o he_o come_v clear_o intimate_v that_o to_o do_v this_o be_v to_o eat_v this_o bread_n and_o to_o drink_v this_o cup_n wherefore_o this_o be_v a_o command_n it_o be_v apparent_a we_o have_v a_o command_n to_o eat_v this_o bread_n and_o drink_v this_o cup_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d sect._n 12_o now_o that_o antiquity_n side_n with_o we_o be_v beyond-dispute_a levit._n in_o 1_o cor._n 11._o quest_n 59_o in_o levit._n for_o beside_o the_o 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time_n of_o this_o council_n the_o administer_a of_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n to_o the_o people_n without_o wine_n be_v hold_v a_o profanation_n of_o it_o etc._n de_fw-fr consecrat_fw-mi do_v 2._o comperimus_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o word_n of_o pope_n gelasius_n be_v remarkable_a as_o you_o find_v they_o in_o gratian_n we_o find_v that_o some_o receive_v a_o portion_n of_o christ_n holy_a body_n abstain_v from_o the_o cup_n of_o his_o most_o sacred_a blood_n which_o because_o they_o do_v out_o of_o i_o know_v not_o what_o superstition_n we_o command_v that_o either_o they_o receive_v the_o entire_a sacrament_n or_o that_o they_o be_v entire_o withhold_v from_o they_o poen_n in_o psa_n 6._o poen_n because_o this_o division_n of_o one_o and_o the_o selfsame_a mystery_n can_v be_v without_o grand_fw-fr sacrilege_n thus_o a_o pope_n è_fw-la cathedra_fw-la and_o saint_n gregory_n cry_v out_o who_o can_v sufficient_o express_v what_o a_o mercy_n it_o be_v to_o have_v these_o mystery_n of_o christ_n body_n and_o blood_n distribute_v 19_o de_fw-fr c_o rp_n &_o sang._n domini_fw-la c._n 15._o &_o 19_o by_o the_o perception_n of_o which_o the_o church_n his_o body_n pascitur_fw-la &_o potatur_fw-la i_o will_v conclude_v with_o paschasius_fw-la who_o tell_v we_o that_o neither_o the_o flesh_n without_o the_o blood_n nor_o the_o blood_n without_o the_o flesh_n be_v right_o communicate_v and_o expound_v the_o word_n of_o christ_n say_v he_o alone_o it_o be_v that_o break_v this_o bread_n and_o by_o the_o hand_n of_o his_o minister_n distribute_v it_o to_o all_o believer_n say_v take_v drink_v you_o all_o of_o this_o as_o well_o minister_n as_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o faithful_a he_o that_o will_v see_v more_o of_o antiquity_n let_v he_o go_v to_o cassander_n and_o 19_o and_o de_fw-fr eccles_n l._n 4._o c._n 19_o modrevius_n papist_n and_o to_o doctor_n feat_o who_o vindicate_v these_o place_n from_o bellarmine_n exception_n we_o pass_v on_o now_o to_o the_o four_o section_n sect._n 13_o wherein_z we_o be_v tell_v 139._o mâ—_n c._n p._n 139._o that_o the_o receiver_n in_o one_o kind_n in_o the_o forementioned_a case_n do_v not_o think_v they_o receive_v more_o of_o christ_n at_o public_a communion_n in_o the_o church_n when_o the_o sacrament_n be_v deliver_v in_o both_o species_n then_o when_o at_o home_o in_o one_o only_a but_o first_o how_o come_v he_o acquaint_v with_o their_o mind_n have_v hiâ—_n guardian_n angel_n tell_v he_o so_o second_o in_o the_o forementioned_a case_n which_o include_v in_o they_o a_o necessity_n of_o participate_v in_o one_o kind_n if_o there_o be_v any_o such_o we_o can_v ready_o allow_v they_o to_o expect_v as_o much_o benefit_n from_o one_o as_o both_o yea_o from_o spiritual_a communion_n as_o corporeal_a or_o by_o the_o element_n when_o this_o latter_a way_n can_v be_v have_v but_o thence_o to_o argue_v against_o the_o necessity_n of_o participate_v by_o outward_a symbol_n will_v be_v strange_o 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be_v multitude_n little_a sensible_a of_o religion_n and_o so_o multitude_n of_o wicked_a man_n to_o who_o they_o without_o scruple_n give_v the_o holy_a bread_n which_o be_v christ_n body_n albeit_o some_o of_o they_o may_v haply_o vomit_v he_o some_o spit_v he_o out_o again_o some_o throw_v he_o to_o the_o dog_n etc._n etc._n i_o can_v very_o easy_o persuade_v myself_o that_o christ_n have_v rather_o be_v spill_v upon_o the_o ground_n then_o devour_v by_o wicked_a man_n second_o sect._n 21_o he_o conjecture_n that_o the_o heresy_n of_o berengarius_fw-la may_v occasion_v this_o order_n of_o the_o church_n 142._o mr._n c._n p._n 142._o ans_fw-fr but_o who_o give_v the_o roman_a church_n warrant_v to_o violate_v christ_n institution_n to_o those_o end_n to_o commit_v sacrilege_n to_o uphold_v a_o gross_a untruth_n and_o to_o conspire_v with_o the_o heresy_n of_o the_o manichee_n against_o a_o orthodox_n and_o apparent_a truth_n and_o here_o our_o author_n leave_v divine_a though_o 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this_o topick_n must_v be_v invalid_a and_o first_o sacerdotes_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o locum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d haer._n 79._o coul._n collor_n in_o lovit_n l._n 5._o mr._n c._n p._n 146._o l._n 2d_o de_fw-fr civ_o dei_fw-la c._n 10._o c._n 20._o v._n 6._o qui_fw-la proprie_fw-la jam_fw-la vocantur_fw-la in_o ecclesiâ_fw-la sacerdotes_fw-la the_o preach_n of_o the_o gospel_n be_v call_v a_o sacrifice_n rom._n 15.16_o where_o the_o apostle_n tell_v the_o roman_n that_o he_o do_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d sacrifice_v the_o gospel_n of_o god_n whence_o origen_n style_v the_o preach_n of_o the_o word_n a_o work_n of_o sacrifice_v epiph._n say_v that_o the_o apostle_n be_v elect_v to_o sacrifice_v the_o gospel_n and_o cyril_n of_o alexandria_n that_o the_o priest_n do_v slay_v the_o host_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o offer_v the_o victimes_o of_o holy_a doctrine_n to_o omit_v the_o like_a say_n of_o chrysostome_n and_o other_o and_o hither_o we_o 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celebrandum_fw-la obtulit_fw-la lib._n qu._n 83._o qu._n 6._o epist_n 23._o ad_fw-la bonif._n and_o therefore_o catachrestical_o call_v so_o and_o that_o saint_n austin_n be_v far_o enough_o from_o assert_v the_o eucharist_n to_o be_v a_o proper_a sacrifice_n be_v extreme_o evident_a in_o that_o he_o call_v it_o the_o similitude_n of_o christ_n sacrifice_n and_o tell_v we_o he_o that_o say_v christ_n be_v immolate_a in_o this_o sacrament_n will_v not_o lie_v because_o if_o sacrament_n have_v not_o a_o similitude_n of_o thing_n of_o which_o they_o be_v sacrament_n they_o can_v not_o be_v so_o now_o from_o this_o similitude_n they_o take_v the_o name_n of_o the_o thing_n themselves_o even_o as_o say_v he_o after_o a_o manner_n the_o sacrament_n of_o christ_n body_n be_v his_o body_n modum_fw-la secundùm_fw-la quendam_fw-la modum_fw-la and_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n his_o blood_n which_o therefore_o according_a to_o saint_n austin_n be_v such_o only_a by_o way_n 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13.16_o l._n
succeed_v they_o and_o must_v it_o be_v therefore_o carnal_a as_o well_o as_o this_o service_n of_o the_o jew_n if_o this_o argument_n be_v good_a our_o sacrifice_n succeed_v a_o proper_a sacrifice_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v so_o must_v not_o this_o also_o be_v esteem_v so_o our_o sacrifice_n succeed_v a_o bloodysacrifice_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v such_o our_o sacrifice_n succeed_v a_o sacrifice_n of_o bruit_n beast_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v such_o our_o second_o consideration_n be_v that_o the_o eucharist_n may_v be_v call_v a_o sacrifice_n symbollical_o as_o represent_v apply_v and_o some_o way_n impetrate_v for_o we_o all_o the_o benefit_n of_o christ_n real_a sacrifice_n on_o the_o cross_n for_o see_v the_o sign_n be_v often_o put_v for_o the_o thing_n signify_v 451._o chrysost_n h._n 27._o in_o heb._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d euseb_n they_fw-mi evan_n l._n 1._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d vide_fw-la for._n cons_n mod_a p._n 451._o and_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d acquire_v the_o name_n of_o what_o they_o represent_v and_o bring_v to_o our_o remembrance_n yea_o see_a the_o apostle_n tell_v the_o galathian_o that_o christ_n be_v crucify_v among_o they_o because_o his_o suffering_n on_o the_o crof_n be_v most_o lively_o represent_v to_o they_o by_o his_o preach_n why_o may_v not_o we_o on_o the_o same_o account_n call_v the_o eucharist_n in_o this_o sense_n a_o sacrisice_n as_o be_v that_o in_o which_o christ_n suffering_n be_v far_o more_o lively_a and_o accurate_o set_v forth_o yea_o a_o perfect_a remembrance_n of_o a_o sacrifice_n as_o the_o father_n call_v it_o yea_o second_o we_o allow_v it_o to_o be_v a_o sacrifice_n in_o this_o sense_n as_o exhibi_fw-la thing_n to_o we_o all_o the_o benefit_n of_o christ_n sacrifice_n upon_o the_o cross_n for_o we_o all_o allow_v that_o what_o ever_o christ_n die_v and_o shed_v his_o blood_n for_o we_o procure_v be_v not_o only_o represent_v there_o but_o apply_v to_o the_o faithful_a and_o 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especial_o in_o his_o first_o chap._n of_o the_o same_o 2._o part_n where_o bellar._n arg._n hence_o be_v abundant_o refute_v mr._n c._n p._n 145._o and_o as_o bochartus_n have_v it_o how_o impertient_fw-la be_v it_o to_o allege_v a_o passage_n where_o it_o be_v say_v that_o christ_n offer_v the_o same_o which_o melchisedech_n offer_v which_o be_v undoubted_o true_a bread_n and_o wine_n without_o any_o transubstantiation_n to_o prove_v that_o christ_n be_v sacrifice_v under_o the_o species_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n last_o the_o eighteen_o canon_n of_o the_o nicene_n council_n tell_v we_o that_o it_o be_v a_o thing_n which_o neither_o canon_n nor_o custom_n have_v deliver_v that_o those_o who_o have_v no_o power_n of_o offering_n viz._n the_o symbol_n in_o commemoration_n of_o christ_n sacrifice_n make_v upon_o the_o cross_n shall_v give_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n that_o be_v these_o symbol_n of_o his_o body_n to_o those_o who_o offer_v ans_fw-fr what_o of_o all_o this_o be_v 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jesus_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d give_v thanks_o or_o pray_v to_o god_n the_o father_n by_o he_o he_o thus_o paraphrase_v do_v all_o thing_n to_o god_n bring_v not_o in_o angel_n do_v thou_o eat_v give_v thanks_o to_o god_n or_o pray_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d see_v 1_o cor._n 14.16_o 17._o before_o and_o after_o meat_n do_v thou_o sleep_v give_v thanks_o to_o god_n before_o and_o after_o and_o so_o in_o other_o thing_n and_o that_o prayer_n be_v one_o of_o these_o thing_n that_o must_v be_v do_v to_o god_n and_o not_o to_o angel_n appear_v from_o that_o which_o follow_v facientem_fw-la or_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d lat._n orantem_fw-la vel_fw-la quidvis_fw-la facientem_fw-la whatever_o you_o do_v in_o word_n or_o deed_n that_o be_v say_v he_o either_o pray_v or_o do_v any_o other_o thing_n then_o present_o after_o he_o tell_v we_o that_o it_o be_v the_o devil_n that_o bring_v in_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d this_o invocate_a and_o worship_v of_o angel_n for_o he_o be_v speak_v still_o of_o prayer_n and_o this_o he_o do_v envy_v we_o that_o honour_n of_o go_v immediate_o to_o the_o trinity_n or_o christ_n but_o say_v he_o be_v he_o angel_n or_o archangel_n yea_o or_o cherubin_n do_v not_o suffer_v it_o much_o less_o if_o he_o be_v a_o saint_n only_o for_o they_o will_v not_o endure_v it_o but_o shake_v you_o off_o when_o they_o see_v this_o contumely_n do_v unto_o their_o lord_n i_o have_v honour_v thou_o say_v god_n and_o say_v call_v upon_o i_o à nd_v thou_o dishonour_v he_o viz._n by_o invocate_a angel_n or_o other_o beside_o he_o sect._n 23_o three_o the_o father_n argue_v that_o christ_n be_v god_n bless_v for_o ever_o because_o he_o be_v invocate_v by_o we_o and_o accept_v of_o our_o prayer_n and_o therefore_o can_v not_o invocate_v the_o saint_n who_o they_o esteem_v not_o to_o be_v god_n thus_o origen_n saint_n paul_n when_o in_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o epistle_n to_o the_o corinthian_n 10._o l._n 8._o in_o ep._n ad_fw-la rom._n 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lactantius_n l._n 7._o institut_fw-la c._n 21._o victorinus_n com._n in_o apoc._n c._n 6._o prudentius_n hym._n pro_fw-la exequio_fw-la defunct_a ambrose_n l._n 2._o de_fw-fr cain_n &_o abel_n c._n 2._o chrysostome_n hom._n 39_o in_o 1._o ad_fw-la cor._n austin_n in_o ps_n 36._o euthymius_n in_o c._n 23._o luc_fw-fr theodoret_n in_o cap._n 11._o ad_fw-la heb._n arethus_n in_o apoc._n oecumenius_n in_o cap._n 11._o ad_fw-la heb._n 21._o cont._n whit._n 1._o c._n 2._o in_o part_n 2._o direc_fw-la inquis_fw-la com._n 21._o deny_v the_o soul_n of_o the_o saint_n to_o have_v nay_o enjoyment_n of_o the_o beatifical_a vision_n and_o this_o be_v acknowledge_v by_o their_o stapleton_n and_o franciscus_n pegna_n and_o therefore_o these_o father_n according_a to_o their_o own_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o invocate_a only_o the_o saint_n in_o glory_n and_o the_o fruition_n of_o the_o beatifical_a vision_n can_v not_o be_v reasonable_o suppose_v to_o have_v hold_v the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n to_o conclude_v i_o know_v what_o distinction_n they_o use_v of_o prayer_n direct_v and_o indirect_a of_o prayer_n relative_a or_o terminative_a etc._n etc._n but_o first_o they_o be_v only_a shift_n to_o cover_v a_o desperate_a cause_n the_o father_n never_o use_v any_o one_o of_o they_o on_o this_o occasion_n but_o reject_v this_o worship_n &_o invocation_n without_o such_o distinction_n even_o in_o those_o place_n where_o it_o seem_v necessary_a to_o have_v use_v they_o have_v they_o be_v acquaint_v with_o this_o sophistry_n yea_o celsus_n and_o other_o intend_v not_o more_o second_o these_o distinction_n be_v equal_o serviceable_a for_o the_o evacuate_a the_o father_n argument_n hence_o for_o the_o divinity_n christ_n and_o last_o be_v contradict_v by_o the_o father_n let_v one_o athanasius_n speak_v for_o all_o who_o not_o content_a to_o tell_v the_o
arrian_n they_o must_v acknowledge_v that_o saint_n i._n e._n christian_n do_v not_o pray_v to_o any_o create_v be_v to_o be_v their_o helper_n elsewhere_o add_v 528._o or._n 2._o cont._n ar._n sub_fw-la finem_fw-la de_fw-fr incar_n verbi_fw-la p._n 528._o that_o if_o they_o worship_v the_o lord_n christ_n because_o the_o word_n of_o god_n inhabit_v in_o he_o they_o may_v as_o well_o worship_v the_o saint_n because_o god_n dwell_v in_o they_o chap._n xvii_o the_o question_n state_v by_o mr._n c._n sect_n 1._o a_o short_a paraphrase_n upon_o 1_o cor._n 7._o ver_fw-la 1_o 2_o 3_o 4_o 5_o 6_o 7_o 8_o 9_o sect_n 2._o argument_n evince_v this_o gift_n not_o to_o be_v attainable_a by_o all_o sect_n 3._o mr._n c's_o evasion_n confute_v sect_n 4._o his_o own_o argument_n not_o answer_v by_o himself_o sect_n 5._o his_o argument_n against_o our_o thesis_n answer_v sect_n 6._o his_o question_n touch_v the_o late_a marriage_n of_o some_o minister_n answer_v sect_n 7._o his_o evasion_n further_o confute_v sect_n 8._o the_o vow_n of_o celibacy_n unlawful_a sect_n 9_o the_o drs._n argument_n defend_v sect_n 10._o 1_o tim._n 5.11_o 12._o explain_v sect_n 11._o the_o council_n of_o eliberis_n conclude_v nothing_o against_o we_o sect_n 12._o nor_o that_o of_o carthage_n sect_n 13._o nor_o the_o african_a council_n sect_n 14._o the_o nicene_n council_n stand_v for_o we_o sect_n 15._o why_o after_o ordination_n the_o ancient_n require_v abstinence_n from_o marriage_n sect_n 16._o the_o synod_n of_o gangra_n for_o we_o sect_n 17._o as_o also_o that_o convened_a in_o trullo_n sect_n 18._o the_o eastern_a church_n permit_v marriage_n to_o her_o priest_n and_o that_o after_o ordination_n sect_n 19_o the_o testimony_n of_o st._n jerome_n to_o the_o contrary_a consider_v sect_n 20._o and_o of_o epiphanius_n sect_n 21._o of_o ambrose_n and_o st._n austin_n sect_n 22._o the_o testimony_n of_o dionysius_n bishop_n of_o corinth_n st._n clemens_n athanagoras_n and_o justin_n martyr_n origen_n 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here_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d heb._n 12.13_o 1_o tim._n 1.6.4.4_o as_o here_o also_o it_o be_v say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d last_o that_o it_o can_v be_v understand_v of_o a_o solemn_a vow_n of_o continency_n join_v with_o a_o abnegation_n of_o the_o marry_a state_n beside_z what_o i_o have_v say_v before_o be_v prove_v 1._o in_o that_o the_o apostle_n deny_v that_o he_o will_v cast_v a_o snare_n upon_o any_o that_o be_v lay_v a_o necessity_n on_o they_o to_o contain_v unmarried_a but_o on_o the_o contrary_n give_v this_o general_a axiom_n that_o it_o be_v better_a to_o marry_v than_o to_o burn_v and_o therefore_o it_o be_v altogether_o unlikely_a that_o he_o will_v now_o tell_v they_o that_o they_o must_v continue_v though_o he_o find_v they_o have_v not_o the_o gift_n of_o continence_n under_o pain_n of_o damnation_n no_o rather_o he_o will_v have_v admonish_v they_o to_o repent_v of_o their_o rash_a vow_n and_o tell_v they_o with_o 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infallible_a general_a council_n for_o it_o be_v evident_a the_o apostle_n bid_v they_o not_o admit_v a_o widow_n under_o sixty_o for_o fear_n of_o her_o incontinency_n and_o for_o that_o reason_n require_v they_o to_o refuse_v those_o that_o be_v young_a than_o so_o i_o confess_v beside_o bellarm_n who_o be_v very_o frivolous_a and_o every_o where_o confute_v estius_n tell_v we_o 1._o that_o there_o be_v not_o the_o same_o reason_n for_o widow_n as_o for_o virgin_n for_o these_o have_v not_o feel_v the_o pleasure_n of_o due_a benevolence_n be_v not_o so_o much_o tempt_v as_o widow_n but_o to_o this_o 1._o it_o be_v evident_a you_o admit_v even_o widow_n long_o before_o this_o time_n yea_o at_o any_o time_n 2._o see_v marriage_n be_v ordain_v for_o the_o abate_n of_o this_o fire_n of_o lust_n sure_o it_o will_v somewhat_o do_v so_o not_o more_o inflame_v it_o and_o it_o be_v unconceivable_a that_o woman_n though_o thirty_o or_o forty_o once_o marry_v shall_v be_v more_o prone_a to_o lust_n than_o those_o of_o sixteen_o or_o eighteen_o never_o marry_v 3._o be_v it_o that_o there_o be_v some_o difference_n yet_o sure_o not_o such_o as_o will_v put_v virgin_n out_o of_o danger_n especial_o when_o the_o apostle_n tell_v we_o 1_o cor._n 7._o that_o there_o may_v be_v need_n and_o therefore_o he_o will_v not_o put_v a_o snare_n upon_o they_o 2._o he_o tell_v we_o that_o they_o have_v no_o cloister_n to_o be_v immure_v in_o then_o as_o there_o be_v now_o and_o therefore_o they_o be_v more_o obnoxious_a to_o this_o fail_v answ_n by_o no_o mean_n when_o it_o must_v be_v grant_v that_o church_n discipline_n be_v more_o strict_a then_o christianity_n more_o lively_a and_o better_o practise_v then_o now_o 2._o solitariness_n do_v not_o help_v this_o disease_n but_o increase_v it_o rather_o 3._o that_o their_o cloister_n do_v not_o abridge_v they_o of_o occasion_n of_o lust_n appear_v by_o their_o frequent_a pregnancy_n and_o the_o above_o cite_v author_n neither_o ought_v they_o to_o change_v the_o apostle_n precept_n upon_o such_o sleight_n and_o frivolous_a ground_n in_o a_o word_n to_o conclude_v why_o may_v not_o this_o sense_n of_o the_o word_n pass_v for_o currant_n you_o admit_v young_a widow_n into_o this_o office_n upon_o their_o promise_n of_o continue_v in_o that_o estate_n when_o alas_o they_o be_v in_o danger_n to_o wax_v wanton_a against_o christ_n by_o this_o mean_n and_o when_o they_o have_v do_v so_o to_o marry_v which_o course_n of_o you_o will_v bring_v condemnation_n upon_o they_o this_o wax_a wanton_a be_v a_o evident_a breach_n of_o the_o promise_n of_o obedience_n to_o the_o command_v of_o christ_n which_o they_o make_v at_o their_o entrance_n into_o christianity_n and_o whereas_o he_o tell_v we_o that_o his_o exposition_n which_o make_v it_o plead_v for_o their_o vow_n of_o continency_n be_v not_o contradict_v by_o any_o of_o the_o ancient_a doctor_n bishop_n hall_n will_v tell_v he_o p._n 725._o i_o have_v think_v i_o have_v read_v in_o holy_a athanasius_n woe_n to_o you_o that_o make_v void_a the_o first_o faith_n of_o baptism_n i_o think_v that_o st._n jerom_n have_v say_v in_o the_o preface_n to_o the_o ep._n to_o titus_n they_o be_v not_o worthy_a of_o belief_n qui_fw-la primam_fw-la fidem_fw-la baptismi_fw-la irritam_fw-la fecerunt_fw-la who_o have_v make_v void_a their_o first_o faith_n in_o baptism_n now_o if_o a_o contrary_a interpretation_n be_v not_o a_o contradiction_n to_o the_o sense_n contend_v for_o i_o may_v say_v as_o well_o that_o the_o interpretation_n of_o these_o two_o father_n be_v never_o contradict_v by_o any_o of_o the_o rest_n but_o it_o be_v the_o consent_n of_o antiquity_n in_o which_o our_o adversary_n vaunt_v himself_o sect._n 12_o and_o 1._o 216._o m._n c._n p._n 216._o as_o for_o the_o council_n of_o eliberis_n which_o if_o we_o may_v believe_v he_o 33._o can._n 33._o absolute_o command_v to_o bishop_n priest_n deacon_n subdeacons_n to_o abstain_v from_o their_o wife_n and_o not_o to_o beget_v child_n let_v it_o be_v consider_v 119._o melchior_n canus_n l_o 5._o de_fw-fr locis_fw-la c._n 4._o binius_fw-la p._n 239._o bellar._n l._n 2._o de_fw-la imag._n c_o 9_o baron_fw-fr ad_fw-la an._n 56._o hum._n 119._o 1._o that_o when_o the_o decree_n of_o this_o council_n be_v urge_v by_o we_o against_o image_n they_o present_o deride_v we_o as_o produce_v a_o council_n of_o nineteen_o bishop_n meet_v in_o a_o corner_n of_o the_o world_n tell_v we_o that_o it_o be_v a_o erroneous_a council_n border_v upon_o novatianism_n and_o manifest_o void_a and_o null_n in_o many_o thing_n viz._n in_o those_o in_o which_o it_o thwart_v their_o superstition_n now_o if_o these_o thing_n be_v true_a what_o advantage_n can_v they_o have_v from_o these_o nineteen_o bishop_n may_v not_o we_o as_o lawful_o reject_v they_o as_o the_o romanist_n 2._o the_o canon_n do_v not_o command_v this_o abstinence_n to_o bishop_n and_o to_o other_o sacred_a person_n absolute_o but_o only_o in_o the_o time_n of_o their_o ministration_n or_o whilst_o it_o be_v their_o turn_n to_o assist_v at_o the_o altar_n which_o thing_n be_v determine_v in_o many_o counsel_n and_o be_v not_o in_o the_o least_o manner_n contrary_a to_o we_o 3._o the_o word_n of_o the_o council_n run_v exact_o contrary_a to_o what_o you_o have_v give_v we_o even_o thus_o this_o council_n have_v think_v good_a not_o to_o command_v but_o whole_o to_o forbid_v bishop_n priest_n etc._n etc._n to_o abstain_v from_o their_o wife_n and_o not_o to_o beget_v child_n and_o so_o it_o will_v be_v parallel_n to_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o nicene_n council_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o make_v in_o opposition_n to_o the_o condemner_n of_o due_a benevolence_n in_o priest_n another_o council_n produce_v by_o he_o be_v the_o seven_o of_o
carthage_n sect._n 13_o for_o that_o which_o he_o call_v the_o second_o be_v indeed_o the_o seven_o which_o thus_o he_o give_v we_o 2._o can._n 2._o it_o be_v agree_v unto_o by_o all_o the_o bishop_n that_o bishop_n priest_n deacon_n 215._o as_o you_o may_v see_v in_o calixtus_n de_fw-mi con_fw-mi cler._n p._n 286._o mr._n c._n p._n 215._o and_o such_o who_o dispense_v sacrament_n shall_v be_v observer_n of_o chastity_n and_o abstain_v even_o from_o their_o own_o wife_n that_o so_o what_o the_o apostle_n teach_v and_o antiquity_n observe_v we_o likewise_o may_v keep_v answ_n now_o here_o again_o ibid._n est_fw-la quidem_fw-la alia_fw-la lectio_fw-la secundum_fw-la quam_fw-la quod_fw-la unus_fw-la faustiâ—us_fw-la dixit_fw-la universis_fw-la episcopis_fw-la tribuitur_fw-la sed_fw-la eam_fw-la mendosam_fw-la esse_fw-la cum_fw-la resipsa_fw-la tum_fw-la graecus_n codex_fw-la evincit_fw-la quomodo_fw-la enim_fw-la ab_fw-la universis_fw-la dictum_fw-la est_fw-la quod_fw-la mox_fw-la universi_fw-la mutarunt_fw-la &_o alitur_fw-la extulerunt_fw-la calix_n ibid._n he_o be_v somewhat_o disingenuous_a and_o take_v some_o part_n of_o the_o sentence_n of_o aurelius_n and_o join_v it_o to_o the_o proposal_n of_o faustinus_n and_o 2._o take_v advantage_n of_o a_o spurious_a lection_n make_v that_o to_o be_v agree_v upon_o by_o all_o the_o bishop_n which_o be_v only_o the_o proposal_n of_o one_o faustinus_n a_o legate_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n to_o which_o the_o synod_n do_v not_o assent_v i_o will_v faithful_o transcribe_v the_o whole_a matter_n that_o you_o may_v see_v the_o truth_n of_o what_o i_o say_v aurelius_n then_o speak_v thus_o it_o please_v the_o bishop_n priest_n and_o deacon_n to_o be_v continent_n in_o all_o thing_n which_o sure_o they_o may_v be_v in_o marriage_n as_o it_o behove_v bishop_n priest_n and_o levite_n or_o those_o who_o serve_v at_o the_o holy_a sacrament_n that_o so_o they_o may_v obtain_v what_o they_o ask_v of_o god_n and_o that_o what_o the_o apostle_n teach_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o again_o defraud_v not_o one_o another_o except_o it_o be_v with_o consent_n for_o a_o time_n 7.5_o 1_o tim._n 3._o 1_o cor._n 7.5_o that_o you_o may_v give_v yourselves_o to_o fast_v and_o prayer_n and_o antiquity_n observe_v in_o abstain_v from_o those_o lawful_a pleasure_n at_o such_o time_n of_o fast_v and_o prayer_n and_o engagement_n in_o divine_a service_n 4._o vide_fw-la can._n 3._o &_o 4._o we_o also_o may_v keep_v thus_o aurelius_n next_o come_v faustinus_n and_o propose_v that_o bishop_n priest_n and_o deacon_n and_o all_o who_o handle_v the_o holy_a sacrament_n shall_v abstain_v even_o from_o their_o own_o wife_n to_o which_o the_o synod_n answer_v only_o thus_o it_o please_v we_o that_o those_o who_o wait_v at_o the_o altar_n shall_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d preserve_v chastity_n and_o therefore_o it_o do_v not_o at_o all_o appear_v that_o they_o consent_v to_o his_o proposal_n see_v chastity_n may_v be_v preserve_v in_o lawful_a wedlock_n as_o the_o carthaginian_a bishop_n in_o the_o three_o synod_n do_v acknowledge_v the_o like_a prevarication_n we_o meet_v with_o sect._n 14_o in_o your_o citation_n of_o the_o 28._o can._n of_o the_o afric_n coun._n which_o in_o brief_a run_v thus_o aurelius_n the_o bishop_n say_v 215._o vxores_fw-la nisi_fw-la eustodita_fw-it pudicitia_fw-la duxerint_fw-la lectores_fw-la legere_fw-la non_fw-la sinantur_fw-la can._n 19_o vide_fw-la calix_n edit_fw-la helm_n p._n 397._o see_v mr._n c._n p._n 215._o i_o add_v reverend_a brethren_n that_o which_o have_v be_v confirm_v in_o divers_a synod_n in_o their_o relation_n or_o consultation_n about_o the_o temperance_n not_o intemperance_n as_o mr._n c._n of_o clerk_n with_o their_o own_o wife_n and_o chief_o reader_n that_o bishop_n priest_n deacon_n and_o subdeacon_n handle_v the_o holy_a mystery_n in_o their_o proper_a turn_n of_o service_n word_n which_o our_o author_n think_v good_a to_o change_v shall_v be_v continent_n even_o from_o their_o wife_n and_o be_v as_o if_o they_o have_v they_o not_o which_o if_o they_o do_v not_o etc._n etc._n indeed_o the_o canon_n as_o it_o be_v in_o latin_a agree_v with_o his_o interpretation_n as_o far_o as_o it_o extend_v but_o that_o we_o shall_v rather_o follow_v the_o greek_a version_n appear_v from_o this_o that_o the_o canon_n in_o its_o full_a extent_n be_v not_o where_o extant_a in_o latin_a and_o now_o for_o the_o sense_n of_o it_o that_o it_o intend_v the_o prohibition_n only_o in_o propriis_fw-la viois_fw-mi suae_fw-la temporibus_fw-la appear_v 1._o from_o the_o very_a word_n which_o determine_v and_o prescribe_v this_o continence_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d according_a not_o to_o former_a decree_n but_o to_o the_o proper_a term_n of_o their_o attendance_n 2._o balsamon_n upon_o the_o canon_n tell_v we_o that_o this_o be_v the_o very_a mind_n of_o the_o council_n nec_fw-la prohibuit_fw-la eye_n synodus_fw-la cum_fw-la ipsis_fw-la consuetudinem_fw-la nisi_fw-la in_o propriis_fw-la terminis_fw-la i._n e._n in_o prestitutis_fw-la uniuscujusque_fw-la vicis_fw-la dieâ—us_fw-la yea_o the_o general_a council_n at_o trullo_n can._n 13._o do_v evident_o declare_v for_o this_o interpretation_n their_o word_n be_v these_o we_o know_v that_o those_o who_o meet_v at_o carthage_n be_v careful_a of_o the_o holiness_n of_o priest_n decree_v that_o presbyter_n deacon_n and_o subdeacon_n handle_v the_o holy_a mystery_n shall_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o very_a word_n of_o the_o greek_a canon_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o word_n do_v not_o only_a evidence_n this_o sense_n and_o tell_v we_o that_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v proper_a turn_n of_o administration_n or_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o also_o evident_o explain_v the_o meaning_n of_o that_o clause_n in_o the_o former_a canon_n that_o so_o what_o the_o apostle_n teach_v and_o antiquity_n observe_v to_o be_v the_o very_a same_o which_o i_o have_v imitate_v from_o what_o have_v be_v say_v i_o thus_o argue_v they_o which_o limit_v this_o abstinence_n to_o a_o certain_a time_n do_v not_o intend_v that_o it_o shall_v be_v perpetual_a see_v regula_fw-la firmat_n in_fw-la non_fw-la exceptis_fw-la but_o thus_o do_v these_o synod_n ergo._n thus_o have_v we_o return_v answer_v to_o his_o synod_n sect._n 15_o it_o follow_v now_o that_o we_o produce_v our_o synod_n against_o he_o and_o 1._o i_o will_v begin_v with_o the_o nicene_n council_n the_o history_n of_o which_o we_o have_v relate_v by_o gelasius_n cyzicenus_n and_o in_o that_o this_o passage_n it_o seem_v good_a to_o some_o bishop_n in_o the_o city_n to_o introduce_v a_o new_a law_n or_o custom_n into_o the_o church_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o to_o define_v that_o bishop_n presbyter_n deacon_n subdeacon_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o any_o other_o sacred_a person_n ought_v not_o to_o use_v those_o wife_n as_o companion_n of_o their_o bed_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o be_v laic_n they_o have_v marry_v these_o thing_n be_v thus_o determine_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d paphnutius_fw-la rose_n up_o and_o cry_v with_o a_o loud_a voice_n oh_o do_v not_o make_v grievous_a the_o yoke_n of_o priest_n for_o marriage_n be_v honourable_a among_o all_o and_o the_o bed_n undefiled_a lest_o by_o too_o much_o exactness_n or_o severity_n you_o rather_o bring_v detriment_n to_o the_o church_n than_o good_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d neither_o be_v all_o sufficient_a to_o exercise_v this_o apathy_n thus_o to_o restrain_v their_o sensual_a appetite_n nor_o will_v any_o i_o suppose_v be_v keep_v in_o chastity_n if_o woman_n shall_v be_v thus_o deprive_v of_o their_o husband_n moreover_o i_o affirm_v that_o the_o afford_v due_a benevolence_n by_o any_o man_n to_o his_o lawful_a wife_n be_v honest_a chastity_n wherefore_o she_o who_o god_n have_v join_v or_o who_o any_o be_v yet_o a_o lectorer_n or_o singer_n or_o laic_a have_v marry_v do_v not_o you_o separate_v 〈◊〉_d soz._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o which_o the_o whole_a synod_n assent_v and_o leave_v every_o man_n to_o his_o freedom_n to_o abstain_v or_o not_o this_o history_n we_o have_v in_o suidas_n verb._n paphn_n in_o gratian_n c._n nicaena_n do_v 31._o in_o m._n aurelius_n cassiodorus_n l._n 1._o c._n 14._o sozom._n l._n 1._o c._n 22._o socrat._v l._n 1._o c._n 8._o niceph._n l._n 8._o c._n 19_o now_o there_o be_v scarce_o any_o thing_n assert_v in_o this_o chapter_n which_o be_v not_o contradict_v by_o the_o decree_n of_o this_o nicene_n council_n do_v he_o tell_v we_o that_o a_o matrimonial_a use_n of_o wife_n to_o the_o former_o marry_v 206._o mr._n c._n p._n 215._o cujusque_fw-la arbitrio_fw-la abstinentiam_fw-la ab_fw-la uxoris_fw-la consuetudine_fw-la permittentes_fw-la soc._n mr._n c._n ib._n mr._n c._n p._n 206._o be_v forbid_v the_o story_n tell_v we_o that_o it_o be_v leave_v free_a by_o the_o synod_n to_o abstain_v or_o not_o will_v he_o cite_v some_o
passage_n to_o persuade_v we_o it_o be_v a_o apostolical_a decree_n the_o story_n will_v inform_v we_o it_o be_v a_o innovation_n will_v he_o say_v that_o all_o may_v contain_v paphnutius_fw-la tell_v he_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d all_o can_v four_o the_o reason_n which_o paphnutius_fw-la use_v be_v these_o 1._o that_o this_o will_v be_v a_o burden_n too_o heavy_a for_o the_o priest_n to_o bear_v sect_n 9_o 2._o that_o scarce_o any_o wife_n thus_o separate_v will_v be_v keep_v chaste_a 3._o that_o all_o priest_n be_v not_o sufficient_a for_o such_o continence_n 4._o that_o it_o will_v tend_v to_o the_o detriment_n of_o the_o church_n 5._o that_o marriage_n be_v honourable_a even_o in_o priest_n 6._o that_o this_o separation_n will_v be_v a_o divorce_a of_o they_o who_o god_n have_v join_v so_o that_o the_o romanist_n by_o the_o practice_n and_o allowance_n of_o such_o divorce_n must_v be_v guilty_a of_o all_o this_o five_o the_o synod_n assent_v to_o all_o this_o say_v socrates_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o whole_a synod_n be_v persuade_v by_o his_o word_n yea_o they_o applaud_v his_o advice_n ejus_fw-la synodus_fw-la laudavit_fw-la sententiam_fw-la ejus_fw-la say_v gratian_n and_o sozom._n and_o that_o upon_o these_o account_n thus_o mention_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d say_v gelasius_n all_o which_o be_v put_v together_o will_v yield_v we_o sufficient_a advantage_n against_o the_o romanist_n innovation_n in_o this_o matter_n well_o sect._n 16_o but_o he_o return_v upon_o we_o that_o socrates_n and_o sozomen_n relate_v 214._o mr._n c._n p._n 214._o that_o it_o be_v consonant_a to_o the_o ancient_a tradition_n of_o the_o church_n that_o those_o who_o have_v enter_v into_o holy_a order_n before_o they_o have_v marry_a wife_n shall_v afterward_o forbear_v from_o marry_v answ_n the_o romanist_n will_v get_v but_o little_a advantage_n hence_o if_o it_o be_v consider_v 1._o that_o gratian_n and_o gelasius_n who_o tell_v we_o that_o he_o compile_v his_o relation_n from_o the_o very_a act_n of_o the_o nicene_n synod_n then_o extant_a as_o in_o his_o proem_n you_o may_v see_v have_v no_o such_o thing_n and_o that_o sozom._n and_o socrates_n from_o who_o this_o be_v cite_v 325._o see_v cham._n de_fw-fr coel_fw-fr l._n 16._o c._n 10._o bell._n l._n 1._o de_fw-fr cler._n c._n 20._o baron_fw-fr a_o 325._o be_v general_o except_v against_o by_o our_o adversary_n in_o this_o very_a matter_n 2._o that_o albeit_o it_o be_v a_o ancient_a custom_n yet_o can_v it_o not_o be_v prove_v to_o have_v be_v derive_v from_o the_o apostle_n as_o be_v full_o evince_v by_o calixtus_n de_fw-fr conjugio_fw-la clericorum_fw-la 3._o that_o they_o admit_v ancient_o no_o presbyter_n under_o 30_o 206._o can._n 11._o novel_a 123._o c._n 13._o p._n 206._o as_o the_o synod_n at_o neocaesarea_n decree_v or_o 35_o as_o justinian_n nor_o a_o deacon_n under_o 25._o now_o even_o according_a to_o mr._n c._n if_o a_o man_n can_v contain_v so_o long_o he_o may_v very_o well_o be_v suppose_v able_a to_o contain_v the_o residue_n of_o his_o life_n 4._o the_o ancient_n think_v it_o somewhat_o unfit_a for_o a_o minister_n to_o be_v employ_v in_o woo_v and_o court_v mistress_n this_o they_o esteem_v a_o thing_n below_o the_o gravity_n of_o a_o priest_n 39_o synod_n agath_fw-mi c._n 39_o as_o likewise_o to_o interfair_n with_o the_o marriage_n festival_n whence_o they_o be_v forbid_v to_o be_v present_a there_o 3._o novel_a 3._o this_o be_v intimate_v by_o leo_n the_o emperor_n in_o his_o novel_n when_o he_o say_v whereas_o the_o ecclesiastical_a order_n have_v constitute_v voveant_fw-la per_fw-la omnem_fw-la vitam_fw-la caelibatum_fw-la voveant_fw-la that_o they_o who_o be_v ordain_v priest_n shall_v promise_v perpetual_a celibacy_n if_o they_o trust_v they_o shall_v not_o falsify_v their_o promise_n or_o if_o they_o think_v themselves_o unable_a to_o contain_v shall_v first_o contract_v lawful_a matrimony_n and_o then_o take_v upon_o they_o the_o ministry_n the_o custom_n which_o at_o present_a obtain_v be_v that_o they_o may_v first_o be_v make_v priest_n and_o after_o two_o year_n marry_o which_o because_o it_o seem_v undecent_a indecorum_n we_o require_v that_o the_o ancient_a prescript_n be_v observe_v for_o it_o be_v a_o unworthy_a thing_n that_o they_o who_o have_v ascend_v unto_o spiritual_a thing_n shall_v again_o slide_v down_o to_o carnal_a but_o contrariwise_o they_o shall_v go_v from_o carnal_a to_o spiritual_a 5._o to_o add_v no_o more_o they_o have_v their_o choice_n when_o they_o come_v to_o be_v ordain_v whether_o they_o will_v marry_v or_o not_o they_o have_v their_o liberty_n to_o marry_v before_o they_o come_v to_o ordination_n now_o here_o be_v nothing_o which_o can_v well_o be_v quarreld_v with_o see_v man_n may_v well_o be_v suppose_v sufficient_o acquaint_v with_o their_o ability_n at_o thirty_o and_o consequent_o as_o they_o find_v themselves_o may_v either_o then_o marry_o or_o promise_v to_o abstain_v to_o this_o purpose_n be_v that_o of_o the_o excellent_a bishop_n tailor_n c._n duc._n dub_o l._n 3._o c._n the_o primitive_a church_n common_o choose_v her_o priest_n and_o bishop_n of_o great_a age_n of_o know_a virtue_n and_o holiness_n they_o be_v design_v to_o a_o public_a and_o dangerous_a employment_n for_o some_o whole_a age_n they_o be_v under_o persecution_n and_o the_o way_n of_o the_o cross_n be_v a_o great_a delatory_a to_o flesh_n and_o blood_n and_o therefore_o they_o may_v the_o rather_o require_v it_o of_o they_o who_o in_o those_o disposition_n they_o find_v fit_a to_o be_v take_v into_o a_o employment_n which_o will_v require_v a_o whole_a man_n all_o his_o time_n and_o all_o his_o affection_n now_o if_o we_o consider_v that_o the_o marry_a priest_n be_v command_v to_o retain_v their_o wife_n and_o the_o unmarried_a have_v be_v try_v to_o be_v of_o a_o know_a and_o experience_a continence_n they_o may_v with_o much_o reason_n and_o great_a advantage_n require_v that_o they_o shall_v remain_v so_o that_o be_v they_o may_v ask_v their_o consent_n and_o trust_v their_o promise_n for_o here_o be_v liberty_n and_o but_o little_a danger_n the_o priest_n be_v few_o and_o the_o unmarried_a much_o few_o and_o their_o age_n common_o such_o as_o be_v past_a danger_n and_o the_o public_a affair_n of_o the_o church_n require_v it_o and_o the_o man_n be_v willing_a and_o then_o all_o be_v right_a and_o then_o as_o for_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n he_o show_v that_o it_o be_v the_o custom_n of_o the_o whole_a greek_a clergy_n to_o marry_v after_o holy_a order_n yea_o give_v example_n of_o it_o in_o the_o latin_a church_n but_o now_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n afford_v no_o such_o liberty_n but_o make_v all_o vow_n perpetual_a abstinence_n or_o else_o refuse_v to_o admit_v they_o to_o the_o sacred_a ministry_n and_o so_o reject_v many_o thousand_o person_n for_o that_o which_o be_v honourable_a in_o all_o and_o which_o be_v permit_v by_o the_o apostle_n 10._o can._n 10._o even_o to_o a_o bishop_n and_o as_o for_o deacon_n the_o counsel_n of_o ancyra_n permit_v they_o marriage_n after_o ordination_n if_o at_o the_o time_n of_o their_o ordination_n they_o declare_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o they_o must_v marry_v be_v not_o able_a to_o contain_v because_o the_o bishop_n say_v they_o have_v grant_v they_o a_o licence_n or_o dispensation_n what_o other_o exception_n be_v make_v against_o this_o counsel_n you_o may_v see_v large_o refute_v in_o chamier_n and_o especial_o calixtus_n if_o you_o do_v but_o consult_v their_o index_n our_o next_o synod_n shall_v be_v that_o of_o gangra_n sect._n 17_o a_o city_n of_o paphlagonia_n 339._o ann._n 339._o which_o though_o it_o be_v but_o a_o particular_a council_n yet_o have_v it_o the_o authority_n of_o a_o general_a for_o as_o much_o as_o the_o canon_n of_o it_o be_v unanimous_o approve_v by_o the_o whole_a eastern_a and_o western_a church_n yea_o always_o receive_v among_o her_o rule_n insomuch_o that_o baronius_n pronounce_v from_o the_o word_n of_o pope_n 44._o an._n 361_o nu._n 44._o symmachus_n canon_n gangrense_n apostolica_fw-la authoritate_fw-la conditos_fw-la esse_fw-la this_o synod_n be_v convene_v against_o eustathius_n and_o his_o disciple_n who_o as_o sozomen_n inform_v we_o 13._o lib._n 3._o c._n 13._o be_v repute_v as_o man_n accuse_v marriage_n refuse_v to_o pray_v in_o the_o house_n of_o marry_a person_n and_o despise_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d lib._n 2._o c._n 33._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d marry_a presbyter_n and_o socrates_n say_v that_o they_o do_v decline_v tanquam_fw-la scelus_fw-la the_o benediction_n and_o communion_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o a_o presbyter_n have_v a_o wife_n which_o whilst_o a_o laic_a he_o have_v marry_v as_o the_o custom_n be_v or_o according_a to_o the_o law_n viz._n that_o those_o among_o the_o clergy_n who_o
will_v have_v wife_n shall_v procure_v they_o before_o their_o ordination_n yea_o the_o synod_n tell_v we_o in_o the_o preface_n that_o they_o despise_v the_o marry_a presbyter_n and_o will_v not_o touch_v the_o sacrament_n administer_v by_o they_o now_o against_o these_o eustathian_o the_o four_o canon_n thus_o decree_v if_o any_o one_o separate_v himself_o from_o a_o conjugate_v presbyter_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o though_o he_o ought_v not_o to_o participate_v of_o the_o offer_v administer_v by_o he_o let_v he_o be_v anathema_n from_o whence_o we_o gather_v that_o according_a to_o the_o sentence_n of_o these_o bishop_n in_o this_o synod_n yea_o and_o the_o whole_a world_n embrace_v their_o decree_n that_o a_o presbyter_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v depose_v for_o be_v marry_v or_o reserve_v of_o his_o wife_n here_o first_o they_o quarrel_n at_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o if_o it_o be_v to_o be_v render_v who_o have_v have_v a_o wife_n not_o who_o have_v at_o present_a but_o 1._o balsamon_n tell_v we_o that_o the_o canon_n anathematize_v those_o who_o will_v not_o indifferent_o communicate_v in_o the_o holy_a thing_n of_o marry_a person_n that_o have_v wife_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o with_o he_o gratian_n consent_v 28._o distinc_fw-la 28._o and_o whereas_o the_o synod_n and_o sozomen_n have_v it_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d socrates_n have_v it_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d yea_o when_o it_o be_v say_v they_o refuse_v to_o pray_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v it_o credible_a that_o they_o will_v not_o pray_v in_o the_o house_n of_o such_o as_o have_v once_o be_v marry_v though_o afterward_o they_o reject_v that_o estate_n 2._o it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o word_n bear_v this_o sense_n ordinary_o 1_o cor._n 7.10_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o those_o that_o be_v marry_v speak_v not_o i_o but_o the_o lord_n let_v not_o the_o woman_n be_v separate_v from_o her_o husband_n see_v chamier_n l._n 16._o the_o cael_n c._n 8._o calixtus_n p._n 208._o second_o they_o tell_v we_o that_o eustathius_n and_o his_o disciple_n think_v marriage_n absolute_o evil_a answ_n what_o be_v that_o to_o the_o purpose_n see_v it_o be_v also_o evident_a that_o the_o synod_n think_v the_o marry_a state_n consistent_a with_o the_o priesthood_n 2._o we_o grant_v they_o do_v so_o and_o this_o be_v condemn_v canon_n the_o first_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d if_o any_o man_n condemn_v marriage_n or_o detest_v it_o and_o criminate_a a_o faithful_a and_o religious_a woman_n give_v due_a benevolence_n to_o her_o husband_n as_o if_o she_o can_v not_o enter_v into_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n let_v he_o be_v accurse_v last_o perhaps_o they_o will_v say_v the_o synod_n determine_v that_o it_o be_v lawful_a for_o a_o presbyter_n to_o have_v a_o wife_n and_o not_o to_o use_v she_o answ_n 1._o can_v any_o imagine_v that_o the_o eustathian_o can_v think_v a_o presbyter_n so_o defile_v by_o have_v once_o marry_v a_o wife_n when_o a_o layman_n though_o he_o now_o reject_v she_o from_o his_o bed_n 2._o the_o synod_n and_o socrates_n inform_v we_o that_o many_o woman_n upon_o their_o persuasion_n leave_v their_o husband_n and_o be_v not_o able_a to_o contain_v they_o pollute_v themselves_o with_o adultery_n and_o this_o grievance_n they_o come_v to_o redress_v which_o they_o do_v by_o require_v due_a benevolence_n and_o sure_o this_o be_v the_o only_a case_n according_a to_o the_o ancient_a law_n paph_n speak_v of_o in_o which_o priest_n marriage_n be_v permit_v that_o they_o profess_v their_o inability_n to_o contain_v or_o else_o enter_v upon_o that_o state_n before_o they_o come_v to_o ordination_n as_o find_v in_o themselves_o a_o defect_n of_o continence_n the_o council_n can_v not_o think_v it_o unlawful_a for_o they_o to_o enjoy_v this_o remedy_n of_o their_o incontinence_n a_o three_o synod_n be_v that_o convene_v in_o trullo_n sect._n 18_o and_o call_v quinisexta_o 13._o can._n 13._o see_v we_o have_v hear_v say_v the_o father_n that_o in_o the_o roman_a church_n it_o be_v deliver_v as_o a_o canon_n that_o whosoever_o be_v to_o be_v ordain_v deacon_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o presbyter_n shall_v profess_v that_o they_o will_v not_o henceforward_o use_v their_o wife_n we_o follow_v the_o ancient_a canon_n of_o the_o exact_a apostolic_a constitution_n declare_v our_o pleasure_n that_o the_o cohabitation_n of_o sacred_a person_n according_a to_o the_o law_n be_v from_o henceforward_o firm_a consuetudine_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d l._n copulam_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d lat_fw-la mutua_fw-la consuetudine_fw-la and_o establish_v no_o way_n dissolve_v their_o conjunction_n with_o their_o wife_n or_o deprive_v they_o of_o give_v due_a benevolence_n to_o each_o other_o at_o time_n convenient_a and_o therefore_o who_o ever_o be_v find_v worthy_a of_o the_o order_n of_o a_o sub-deacon_n deacon_n or_o priest_n let_v he_o not_o be_v prohibit_v from_o this_o degree_n because_o he_o cohabit_v with_o his_o lawful_a wife_n lest_o by_o so_o do_v we_o shall_v be_v compel_v to_o bring_v a_o ignominy_n upon_o that_o wedlock_n which_o god_n have_v institute_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 19.6_o mat._n 19.6_o the_o gospel_n in_o the_o mean_a time_n cry_v out_o what_o god_n have_v join_v let_v no_o man_n separate_v and_o the_o apostle_n marriage_n be_v honourable_a and_o the_o bed_n undefiled_a 13.4_o heb._n 13.4_o and_o further_o be_v thou_o bind_v to_o a_o wife_n seek_v not_o to_o be_v loose_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d if_o any_o therefore_o rise_v up_o against_o the_o apostle_n canon_n dare_v to_o deprive_v any_o consecrate_a presbyter_n or_o deacon_n of_o the_o commerce_n of_o his_o lawful_a wife_n let_v he_o be_v depose_v now_o here_o let_v it_o be_v observe_v i_o that_o in_o this_o synod_n or_o rather_o supplement_n of_o the_o two_o former_a synod_n paul_n of_o constant_a peter_n of_o alexandria_n gerentes_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o praefat._n 6._o syn._n totius_fw-la synodi_fw-la romanae_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la vicem_fw-la gerentes_fw-la anastasius_n of_o jerusalem_n george_n of_o antioch_n all_o patriarch_n be_v present_a and_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o bishop_n out_o of_o every_o province_n and_o region_n as_o the_o sub-scription_a have_v it_o and_o as_o balsamon_n tell_v we_o he_o find_v in_o the_o subscription_n basilius_n a_o metropolitan_a of_o gortina_n in_o crect_n and_o a_o certain_a bishop_n of_o ravenna_n be_v there_o to_o represent_v the_o roman_a church_n and_o beside_o as_o legate_n of_o the_o pope_n be_v present_a the_o bishop_n of_o thessaly_n sardis_n heraclea_n and_o corinth_n 2._o 7._o act._n 2._o quod_fw-la in_o sâ—xtae_fw-la synodi_fw-la divine_a &_o legaliter_fw-la predicatis_fw-la canon_n etc._n etc._n act._n 4._o &_o 7._o that_o albeit_o sergius_n do_v not_o acquiesce_v in_o his_o subscription_n to_o this_o synod_n yet_o do_v hadrian_n the_o first_o receive_v the_o synod_n and_o its_o canon_n and_o that_o as_o right_o and_o divine_o decree_v as_o you_o may_v see_v in_o a_o epistle_n of_o his_o extant_a in_o this_o second_o nicene_n council_n yea_o farther_z in_o this_o second_o nicene_n council_n the_o roman_a legate_n not_o at_o all_o contradict_a it_o they_o be_v cite_v under_o the_o name_n of_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o holy_a ecumenical_a six_o synod_n 3._o that_o this_o be_v do_v in_o perfect_a opposition_n to_o the_o roman_a church_n and_o therefore_o they_o little_o dream_v of_o its_o infallibility_n or_o any_o submission_n due_a unto_o it_o 4._o that_o they_o affirm_v that_o this_o deprive_v presbyter_n etc._n etc._n of_o the_o use_n of_o their_o wife_n or_o the_o marriage_n bed_n be_v a_o flat_a contradiction_n to_o two_o aphorism_n of_o the_o apostle_n a_o separate_n what_o god_n have_v join_v and_o a_o cast_a ignominy_n upon_o the_o gospel_n and_o consequent_o that_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o this_o synod_n 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do_v not_o beget_v child_n though_o other_o do_v if_o throughout_o all_o egypt_n it_o have_v be_v unlawful_a for_o a_o bishop_n to_o have_v have_v a_o wife_n or_o beget_v child_n in_o that_o condition_n for_o that_o he_o be_v so_o to_o be_v understand_v be_v evident_a because_o he_o tell_v he_o how_o he_o may_v live_v in_o the_o condition_n of_o a_o bishop_n nor_o do_v it_o concern_v dracontius_n at_o all_o what_o live_v the_o bishop_n lead_v before_o their_o instalment_n but_o what_o they_o use_v to_o be_v when_o they_o ascend_v the_o episcopal_a chair_n 3._o why_o do_v st._n jerom_n though_o deal_v with_o one_o by_o nation_n a_o spaniard_n and_o inhabit_v in_o france_n fly_v to_o egypt_n and_o the_o east_n but_o that_o he_o know_v there_o be_v no_o such_o matter_n observe_v in_o spain_n france_n and_o other_o place_n of_o the_o western_a church_n st._n jerom_n be_v so_o far_o from_o show_v that_o this_o severity_n obtain_v in_o the_o east_n that_o he_o rather_o evidence_v by_o this_o 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than_o mediolanum_n the_o priest_n do_v beget_v child_n 348._o ep._n 82._o non_fw-la quo_fw-la excludat_fw-la ex_fw-la sortem_fw-la conjâ—gii_fw-la sed_fw-la ut_fw-la conjugali_fw-la eastimonia_fw-la servet_fw-la ablationis_fw-la suae_fw-la gratiam_fw-la lib._n the_o adult_n conjug_n c._n 20._o bishop_n taylor_n duc_fw-fr dub_v l._n 3._o c._n 4._o p._n 348._o 3._o the_o same_o ambross_n elsewhere_o tell_v we_o that_o the_o apostle_n when_o he_o command_v viz._n the_o bishop_n to_o be_v the_o husband_n of_o one_o wife_n do_v it_o not_o to_o exclude_v the_o unmarried_a but_o that_o he_o viz._n who_o have_v not_o the_o gift_n of_o continence_n but_o lay_v under_o the_o danger_n of_o fornication_n shall_v keep_v the_o grace_n of_o his_o baptism_n by_o use_v this_o remedy_n of_o wedlock_n the_o second_o father_n be_v st._n austin_n who_o say_v only_o this_o that_o the_o continence_n of_o those_o clerk_n who_o be_v snatch_v as_o it_o be_v into_o the_o ministry_n and_o violent_o compel_v 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we_o go_v over_o the_o father_n produce_v by_o he_o sect._n 23_o as_o clear_o as_o the_o matter_n will_v well_o bear_v i_o shall_v be_v very_o spare_v in_o confront_v father_n to_o he_o refer_v you_o for_o the_o triumphant_a evidence_n of_o antiquity_n to_o calixtus_n chamier_n and_o bishop_n hall_n 1._o then_o dionysius_n bishop_n of_o corinth_n write_v to_o pinytus_n bishop_n of_o gnossus_n who_o as_o it_o seem_v will_v have_v bring_v his_o clergy_n into_o this_o snare_n exhort_v he_o 〈◊〉_d euseb_n l._n 4._o c._n 22._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o he_o will_v not_o put_v this_o heavy_a yoke_n of_o continence_n this_o burdensome_a purity_n upon_o his_o brethren_n but_o will_v have_v respect_n to_o the_o infirmity_n of_o many_o philos_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d const_n apost_n l._n 6._o c._n 17._o si_fw-mi male_a intelligatur_fw-la non_fw-la solum_fw-la libidinem_fw-la sacerdotum_fw-la graecorum_n defendat_fw-la sed_fw-la latinis_fw-la quoque_fw-la ad_fw-la petendam_fw-la quod_fw-la concedi_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la aditum_fw-la praeparet_fw-la &_o muniat_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d athenug_n apol_n ad_fw-la anton._n philos_n have_v there_o be_v any_o apostolical_a sanction_n or_o ecclesiastical_a constitution_n in_o this_o case_n how_o dare_v dionysius_n have_v dissuade_v the_o exercise_n of_o it_o or_o call_v it_o a_o grievous_a yoke_n not_o to_o be_v impose_v on_o the_o brethren_n why_o do_v he_o speak_v particular_o to_o pinytus_n yea_o why_o do_v not_o pinytus_n in_o his_o answer_n mind_v he_o of_o it_o and_o defend_v himself_o with_o it_o but_o only_o tell_v he_o that_o they_o shall_v not_o perpetual_o be_v feed_v with_o milk_n but_o at_o last_o come_v to_o more_o solid_a meat_n 2._o the_o author_n of_o the_o apostolic_a constitution_n vulgar_o attribute_v to_o st._n clemens_n tell_v we_o that_o bishop_n priest_n and_o deacon_n if_o at_o ordination_n they_o be_v marry_v must_v not_o be_v join_v to_o other_o but_o content_v themselves_o 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i_o can_v sufficient_o evince_v from_o many_o other_o topic_n but_o that_o i_o be_o unwilling_a to_o be_v burdensome_a to_o the_o reader_n patience_n who_o therefore_o i_o refer_v to_o the_o reverend_a bishop_n bramhal_o 8._o reply_v to_o the_o bishop_n of_o chalcedon_n c._n 8._o and_o proceed_v to_o the_o consideration_n of_o those_o argument_n which_o he_o use_v to_o defend_v their_o church_n from_o so_o great_a a_o guilt_n 1._o therefore_o say_v he_o if_o our_o church_n be_v schismatical_a sect._n 9_o either_o it_o be_v so_o before_o the_o reformation_n 395._o mr._n c._n p._n 395._o or_o it_o begin_v afterward_o so_o to_o be_v answ_n it_o be_v so_o before_o and_o afterward_o it_o begin_v to_o aggravate_v its_o schism_n it_o be_v so_o before_o causal_o as_o do_v that_o which_o give_v sufficient_a cause_n for_o her_o member_n to_o separate_v it_o be_v so_o afterward_o both_o causal_o and_o formal_o but_o he_o proceed_v ibid._n ibid._n '_o if_o it_o be_v so_o before_o where_o be_v 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