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A45460 A reply to the Catholick gentlemans answer to the most materiall parts of the booke Of schisme whereto is annexed, an account of H.T. his appendix to his Manual of controversies, concerning the Abbot of Bangors answer to Augustine / by H. Hammond. Hammond, Henry, 1605-1660. 1654 (1654) Wing H598; ESTC R9274 139,505 188

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be_v make_v from_o my_o do_v that_o slight_o which_o i_o do_v not_o meddle_v with_o at_o all_o but_o then_o 3._o to_o remove_v all_o scruple_n or_o possible_a occasion_n of_o jealousy_n in_o this_o matter_n it_o be_v the_o design_n of_o chapter_n 8._o the_o method_n then_o lead_v to_o it_o under_o a_o second_o sort_n of_o schism_n to_o consider_v the_o departure_n from_o the_o unity_n of_o the_o faith_n which_o be_v but_o a_o periphrasis_n of_o heresy_n be_v consequent_o the_o define_n all_o heresy_n be_v schism_n and_o so_o the_o profess_a avow_v of_o that_o which_o he_o suspect_v i_o unwilling_a to_o have_v understand_v and_o so_o still_o there_o be_v not_o the_o least_o appearance_n of_o justice_n in_o this_o suggestion_n sect._n ii_o excommunication_n how_o it_o differ_v from_o schism_n wilful_a continuance_n under_o censure_n be_v schism_n the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n be_v not_o our_o lawful_a governor_n the_o severe_a condition_n of_o their_o communion_n num._n 1_o his_o second_o 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from_o come_v to_o this_o contestation_n be_v not_o to_o gain_v any_o advantage_n by_o his_o guilt_n but_o adversus_fw-la eum_fw-la lie_fw-la habetur_fw-la pro_fw-la contestato_fw-la he_o shall_v be_v look_v on_o as_o if_o the_o suit_n have_v be_v actual_o contest_v against_o he_o see_v bartolus_n in_o l._n si_fw-la eum_fw-la §_o qui_fw-la injuriarum_fw-la in_o fi_fw-la ff_n si_fw-la quis_fw-la caut_fw-fr num._n 32_o but_o as_o to_o the_o canon_n law_n which_o in_o all_o reason_n the_o catholic_n be_v to_o own_o in_o this_o question_n it_o be_v know_v that_o it_o admit_v not_o any_o the_o long_a prescription_n without_o the_o bonae_fw-la fidei_fw-la possessio_fw-la he_o that_o come_v by_o any_o thing_n dishonest_o be_v for_o ever_o oblige_v to_o restitution_n and_o for_o the_o judge_n of_o that_o allow_v of_o many_o way_n of_o probation_n from_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o thing_n the_o course_n we_o have_v take_v in_o this_o present_a debate_n and_o from_o other_o probable_a 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insist_v and_o never_o yet_o have_v have_v any_o such_o ground_n offer_v to_o we_o as_o may_v in_o some_o measure_n appear_v by_o the_o view_n of_o that_o controversy_n as_o it_o lie_v visible_a in_o the_o book_n entitle_v the_o view_n of_o infallibility_n num._n 34_o as_o for_o the_o uncertainty_n of_o the_o reason_n on_o the_o protestant_n side_n by_o uncertainty_n meaning_n fallibility_n and_o the_o potest_fw-la subesse_fw-la falsum_fw-la while_o yet_o we_o be_v without_o doubt_v very_o persuade_v that_o our_o reason_n have_v force_n in_o they_o that_o can_v make_v it_o possible_a for_o we_o to_o believe_v what_o we_o do_v not_o believe_v or_o lawful_a upon_o any_o the_o fair_a intuition_n to_o profess_v contrary_a to_o our_o belief_n i_o believe_v that_o henry_n viii_o be_v king_n of_o this_o nation_n and_o the_o reason_n on_o which_o i_o believe_v it_o be_v the_o testimony_n of_o mere_a man_n and_o so_o fallible_a yet_o the_o bare_a fallibility_n of_o those_o testimony_n can_v 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violent_o remove_v from_o communion_n with_o they_o and_o can_v be_v admit_v to_o reunion_n but_o upon_o condition_n which_o without_o dissemble_v and_o lie_v we_o can_v undergo_v it_o be_v in_o vain_a to_o speak_v of_o motive_n or_o obligation_n to_o return_v to_o their_o communion_n we_o that_o be_v bind_v as_o much_o as_o in_o we_o lie_v to_o have_v peace_n with_o all_o man_n must_v not_o admit_v any_o know_v or_o wilful_a sin_n in_o order_n to_o that_o most_o desirable_a end_n and_o this_o one_o thing_n as_o alone_o it_o be_v pertinent_a to_o the_o matter_n in_o hand_n that_o of_o schism_n so_o it_o be_v necessary_o the_o conclude_v of_o this_o controversy_n we_o that_o be_v not_o permit_v to_o return_v and_o so_o we_o be_v if_o the_o condition_n of_o our_o return_n be_v so_o encumber_v as_o to_o include_v sin_n can_v with_o any_o justice_n or_o equity_n be_v charge_v for_o not_o return_v num._n 28_o against_o this_o here_o be_v nothing_o say_v any_o far_a than_o the_o bare_a 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bear_v any_o proportion_n with_o that_o which_o king_n can_v show_v for_o their_o crown_n or_o proprietary_n for_o their_o inheritance_n num._n 31_o of_o this_o head_n of_o possession_n or_o prescription_n it_o be_v easy_a to_o add_v much_o more_o by_o consider_v that_o claim_n and_o title_n by_o the_o know_a rule_n whether_o of_o the_o canon_n or_o civil_a law_n the_o civil_a law_n which_o be_v general_o more_o favourable_a to_o prescription_n do_v yet_o acknowledge_v many_o way_n of_o interrupt_v it_o as_o by_o call_v it_o into_o question_n and_o that_o be_v sufficient_o do_v in_o some_o case_n per_fw-la solam_fw-la conventionem_fw-la by_o cite_v or_o summon_v the_o possessor_n and_o when_o contestatio_fw-la litis_fw-la the_o enter_v a_o suit_n be_v actual_o require_v yet_o still_o he_o that_o appear_v to_o have_v cause_v the_o impediment_n and_o keep_v it_o
charity_n which_o be_v very_o much_o beside_o the_o principle_n of_o those_o protestant_n who_o pretend_v so_o much_o to_o the_o authority_n of_o counsel_n i_o think_v he_o shall_v have_v remember_v there_o may_v be_v schism_n against_o conciliatory_a authority_n whether_o this_o be_v call_v so_o when_o the_o council_n actual_o sit_v or_o in_o the_o unanimity_n of_o belief_n in_o the_o dispersion_n of_o the_o church_n so_o that_o the_o doctor_n suppose_v he_o conclude_v against_o the_o pope_n have_v not_o conclude_v himself_o no_o schismatic_n be_v separate_v form_n the_o catholic_n world_n and_o again_o in_o the_o next_o page_n by_o way_n of_o recollection_n or_o second_o thought_n thus_o but_o i_o must_v not_o forget_v here_o what_o i_o omit_v to_o insert_v before_o that_o in_o his_o division_n of_o schism_n he_o omit_v the_o principal_a if_o not_o indeed_o and_o in_o the_o use_n of_o the_o word_n by_o the_o ancient_n the_o only_a schism_n which_o be_v when_o one_o break_v from_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o god_n for_o though_o a_o breach_n make_v from_o the_o immediate_a superior_a or_o a_o particular_a church_n may_v in_o some_o sort_n and_o in_o our_o ordinary_a manner_n of_o speak_v be_v call_v a_o schism_n yet_o that_o by_o which_o one_o break_v away_o from_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n be_v proper_o and_o in_o a_o high_a sense_n call_v schism_n and_o be_v that_o out_o of_o which_o the_o present_a question_n proceed_v whereas_o other_o division_n as_o long_o as_o both_o part_n remain_v in_o communion_n with_o the_o universal_a church_n be_v not_o proper_o schism_n but_o with_o a_o diminutive_a particle_n so_o that_o in_o this_o division_n he_o leave_v out_o that_o part_n which_o appertain_v to_o the_o question_n num._n 3_o my_o division_n of_o schism_n be_v that_o which_o i_o can_v not_o conceive_v subject_a to_o the_o exception_n of_o any_o rational_a man_n of_o what_o persuasion_n soever_o schism_n be_v a_o breach_n of_o unity_n and_o communion_n as_o many_o sort_n as_o be_v conceivable_a of_o unity_n and_o communion_n so_o many_o and_o no_o more_o i_o set_v down_o of_o schism_n some_o as_o breach_n of_o the_o subordination_n which_o christ_n settle_v in_o his_o church_n other_o of_o mutual_a charity_n which_o he_o leave_v among_o his_o disciple_n num._n 4_o for_o be_v it_o not_o evident_a that_o all_o man_n in_o the_o world_n be_v either_o our_o superior_n or_o inferior_n or_o our_o equal_n and_o can_v i_o break_v communion_n with_o any_o as_o long_o as_o be_v a_o inferior_a i_o live_v regular_o under_o all_o my_o superior_n and_o brotherly_a with_o all_o my_o equal_n there_o be_v certain_o no_o place_n of_o doubt_n in_o this_o when_o therefore_o in_o his_o second_o period_n here_o set_v down_o he_o mention_n it_o as_o the_o principal_a and_o in_o the_o ancient_n use_v of_o the_o word_n the_o only_a schism_n when_o one_o break_v from_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o god_n it_o be_v strange_a he_o shall_v think_v that_o man_n be_v not_o comprise_v in_o either_o member_n of_o my_o division_n when_o certain_o he_o be_v guilty_a of_o both_o for_o how_o can_v he_o separate_v from_o the_o whole_a church_n unless_o he_o separate_v both_o from_o his_o superior_n and_o his_o equal_n too_o and_o if_o he_o separate_v from_o both_o then_o questionless_a he_o separate_v from_o one_o and_o from_o more_o than_o one_o of_o they_o num._n 5_o be_v it_o possible_a for_o any_o care_n more_o sollicitous_o to_o have_v prevent_v this_o exception_n than_o that_o which_o by_o i_o be_v use_v when_o among_o the_o branch_n of_o equality_n with_o which_o every_o one_o be_v oblige_v to_o preserve_v unity_n and_o communion_n i_o reckon_v up_o not_o only_o the_o believer_n of_o the_o same_o congregation_n etc._n etc._n but_o the_o several_a community_n of_o christian_a man_n from_o parish_n and_o diocese_n to_o clime_n of_o the_o whole_a christian_a world_n chap._n 3._o §_o 5._o and_o indeed_o it_o be_v a_o great_a piece_n of_o austerity_n that_o when_o i_o have_v endeavour_v to_o prove_v that_o we_o of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n have_v not_o voluntary_o separate_v and_o that_o only_o be_v the_o crime_n of_o schism_n from_o any_o one_o particular_a church_n and_o no_o one_o of_o those_o proof_n be_v invalidate_v nor_o as_o yet_o so_o much_o as_o except_v against_o it_o shall_v yet_o be_v think_v seasonable_a to_o reply_v that_o we_o have_v break_v off_o from_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o god_n num._n 6_o be_v not_o that_o whole_a make_v up_o of_o these_o several_n as_o a_o body_n of_o limb_n the_o universal_a of_o particular_n and_o can_v the_o hand_n be_v break_v off_o from_o the_o whole_a body_n when_o it_o be_v not_o break_v off_o but_o remain_v in_o perfect_a union_n with_o every_o part_n of_o the_o body_n if_o the_o arm_n be_v break_v from_o the_o body_n the_o hand_n which_o remain_v unite_v to_o the_o arm_n may_v yet_o be_v separate_a from_o the_o whole_a body_n because_o by_o be_v fasten_v to_o the_o arm_n it_o be_v unite_v but_o to_o one_o and_o not_o to_o all_o the_o member_n of_o the_o body_n but_o a_o union_n to_o all_o the_o member_n of_o the_o body_n suppose_v a_o separation_n from_o no_o one_o part_n that_o remain_v in_o the_o body_n and_o sure_a that_o must_v be_v a_o union_n with_o the_o whole_a body_n which_o be_v nothing_o else_o but_o all_o the_o member_n together_o num._n 7_o and_o so_o as_o his_o second_o thought_n be_v effect_n not_o remedy_n of_o his_o forgetfulness_n the_o very_a same_o which_o he_o have_v mention_v before_o under_o the_o style_n of_o separation_n from_o the_o catholic_n world_n so_o certain_o they_o be_v again_o effect_n of_o his_o inobservance_n that_o his_o principal_a sort_n of_o schism_n separation_n from_o the_o whole_a church_n be_v comprehend_v by_o i_o under_o this_o style_n separation_n from_o the_o several_a community_n of_o the_o whole_a christian_a world_n num._n 8_o as_o to_o the_o former_a branch_n of_o his_o exception_n that_o in_o my_o division_n of_o schism_n into_o that_o which_o be_v against_o monarchical_a i_o say_v and_o when_o he_o recite_v my_o word_n he_o shall_v do_v so_o too_o paternal_a power_n and_o that_o which_o be_v against_o fraternal_a charity_n i_o omit_v to_o mention_v the_o authority_n of_o counsel_n it_o be_v evident_o a_o causeless_a suggestion_n for_o 1._o if_o counsel_n as_o he_o say_v have_v any_o authority_n that_o will_v certain_o be_v reducible_a to_o paternal_a power_n and_o if_o they_o have_v none_o any_o far_a than_o by_o way_n of_o counsel_n and_o advice_n that_o will_v direct_o fall_v under_o the_o head_n of_o fraternal_a charity_n num._n 9_o second_o if_o by_o counsel_n he_o mean_v provincial_n counsel_n it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o power_n which_o several_o belong_v to_o the_o bishop_n of_o each_o province_n be_v unite_v in_o that_o of_o a_o provincial_n council_n where_o all_o the_o diocesan_n bishop_n be_v assemble_v and_o the_o despise_n of_o that_o be_v a_o offence_n under_o the_o first_o sort_n of_o schism_n a_o breach_n of_o the_o subordination_n to_o the_o bishop_n yea_o and_o the_o metropolitan_a too_o who_o preside_v in_o the_o provincial_n council_n num._n 10_o so_o again_o if_o he_o mean_v national_n counsel_n the_o power_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o all_o the_o province_n there_o assemble_v divolve_v upon_o this_o assembly_n compound_v of_o all_o of_o they_o the_o despise_v thereof_o be_v the_o despise_n of_o these_o ecclesiastical_a superior_n of_o the_o whole_a nation_n and_o culpable_a and_o schismatical_a upon_o that_o account_n num._n 11_o as_o for_o ecumenical_a or_o general_n counsel_n if_o they_o be_v true_o such_o the_o power_n of_o all_o the_o bishop_n of_o all_o the_o province_n in_o all_o christian_a nation_n divolve_v upon_o that_o and_o so_o can_v be_v despise_v without_o despise_v of_o all_o rank_n of_o our_o ecclesiastical_a superior_n bishop_n metropolitan_o primate_fw-la or_o patriarch_n and_o therefore_o this_o sort_n of_o schism_n can_v not_o be_v deem_v to_o be_v omit_v where_o all_o those_o other_o branch_n of_o which_o it_o be_v make_v up_o be_v so_o particular_o handle_v num._n 12_o that_o any_o more_o special_a consideration_n be_v not_o take_v of_o general_n counsel_n in_o that_o discourse_n the_o account_n beside_o that_o which_o be_v now_o give_v be_v more_o than_o intimate_v in_o that_o tract_n of_o schism_n pag._n 60._o first_o because_o they_o be_v remedy_n of_o schism_n and_o extraordinary_a not_o any_o stand_a judicature_n to_o which_o our_o constant_a subordination_n and_o subjection_n be_v require_v 2._o because_o these_o be_v such_o as_o without_o which_o the_o church_n continue_v for_o the_o first_o 300_o year_n and_o so_o can_v not_o belong_v to_o a_o general_a discourse_n which_o speak_v of_o all_o the_o certain_a and_o ordinary_a and_o constant_a sort_n
of_o schism_n and_o such_o as_o all_o time_n be_v capable_a of_o and_o enlarge_v not_o to_o those_o other_o of_o accidental_a emergency_n 3._o because_o they_o be_v now_o moral_o impossible_a to_o be_v have_v the_o christian_a world_n be_v under_o so_o many_o empire_n and_o divide_v into_o so_o many_o communion_n that_o it_o be_v not_o visible_a to_o the_o eye_n of_o man_n how_o they_o shall_v be_v regular_o assemble_v num._n 13_o as_o for_o those_o that_o be_v already_o past_a and_o be_v on_o due_a ground_n to_o be_v acknowledge_v true_o ecumenical_a the_o communion_n which_o be_v possible_a to_o be_v have_v or_o break_v with_o they_o be_v that_o of_o compliance_n with_o or_o recession_n from_o their_o definition_n and_o our_o innocence_n in_o that_o respect_n be_v avow_v p._n 160._o as_o the_o congregate_a of_o the_o like_a when_o possible_a and_o probable_a towards_o the_o end_n be_v recommend_v p._n 158._o as_o a_o supply_n when_o there_o shall_v be_v need_n of_o extraordinary_a remedy_n num._n 14_o last_o if_o none_o of_o this_o have_v be_v do_v or_o if_o this_o have_v not_o be_v undertake_v so_o solemn_o and_o formal_o as_o some_o other_o suppose_a branch_n of_o schism_n be_v in_o that_o tract_n yet_o the_o account_n of_o that_o be_v visible_a to_o any_o because_o the_o principal_a sort_n of_o schism_n charge_v by_o the_o romanist_n on_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v that_o of_o cast_v out_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n not_o contemn_v the_o authority_n of_o counsel_n and_o therefore_o i_o be_v in_o reason_n to_o apply_v my_o discourse_n most_o large_o and_o particular_o to_o that_o head_n to_o which_o their_o objection_n not_o my_o own_o choice_n direct_v i_o so_o evident_o contrary_a to_o the_o notoriety_n of_o the_o fact_n be_v this_o complaint_n of_o this_o gentleman_n that_o my_o division_n of_o schism_n be_v insufficient_a and_o that_o i_o take_v no_o notice_n of_o this_o as_o he_o please_v to_o call_v it_o conciliatory_a authority_n num._n 15_o that_o to_o make_v his_o suggestion_n seem_v more_o probable_a he_o advise_o choose_v to_o change_n the_o term_n of_o my_o division_n from_o that_o which_o be_v against_o paternal_a to_o that_o which_o be_v against_o monarchical_a power_n upon_o this_o apprehension_n that_o paternal_a power_n will_v visible_o include_v that_o of_o the_o father_n in_o council_n assemble_v as_o well_o as_o in_o several_a but_o monarchical_a power_n can_v not_o so_o fit_o bear_v it_o i_o shall_v not_o enter_v into_o his_o secret_n to_o divine_a this_o i_o be_o sure_a of_o that_o the_o unanimity_n of_o belief_n in_o the_o dispersion_n of_o the_o church_n can_v with_o any_o propriety_n as_o by_o he_o it_o be_v be_v define_v a_o branch_n of_o conciliatory_a authority_n for_o certain_o the_o church_n disperse_v be_v not_o meet_v together_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o dispersion_n of_o the_o jew_n differ_v much_o from_o the_o council_n assemble_v at_o jerusalem_n and_o the_o christian_a church_n at_o this_o day_n be_v without_o question_n no_o ecumenical_a council_n num._n 16_o and_o then_o what_o authority_n scatter_v member_n can_v have_v which_o never_o legal_o command_v or_o exercise_v authority_n but_o when_o they_o be_v in_o conjunction_n i_o shall_v not_o here_o make_v stay_v to_o demonstrate_v whatsoever_o there_o be_v of_o this_o nature_n will_v most_o proper_o be_v comprise_v under_o the_o head_n of_o communion_n or_o unity_n fraternal_a and_o the_o schism_n which_o be_v a_o transgression_n of_o that_o be_v at_o large_a handle_v also_o chap._n 8._o 9_o 10._o there_o be_v no_o insufficiency_n in_o any_o justice_n to_o be_v charge_v on_o this_o division_n sect._n ii_o of_o the_o extent_n of_o the_o roman_a province_n the_o bishop_n of_o italy_n distinct_a from_o those_o that_o belong_v to_o rome_n the_o ecclesiastical_a distribution_n agreeable_a with_o the_o civil_a ruffinus_n vindicate_v num._n 1_o the_o second_o charge_n on_o this_o chapter_n be_v about_o the_o extent_n of_o the_o roman_a patriarchie_n in_o these_o word_n num._n 2_o in_o this_o chap_n he_o tell_v we_o many_o thing_n some_o true_a some_o not_o so_o but_o all_o either_o common_a to_o we_o both_o or_o not_o appertain_v to_o the_o controversy_n until_o he_o conclude_v that_o certain_o the_o roman_a patriarchie_n do_v not_o extend_v itself_o to_o all_o italy_n and_o this_o he_o do_v out_o of_o a_o word_n in_o ruffinus_n which_o he_o suppose_v to_o be_v take_v in_o a_o special_a propriety_n of_o law_n whereas_o indeed_o that_o author_n knowledge_n in_o grammar_n be_v not_o such_o as_o shall_v necessary_o exact_v any_o such_o belief_n especial_o learned_a man_n say_v the_o contrary_a num._n 3_o the_o place_n to_o which_o this_o exception_n belong_v be_v not_o set_v down_o by_o this_o gentleman_n but_o by_o annex_v the_o testimony_n out_o of_o ruffinus_n i_o discern_v it_o to_o be_v that_o of_o pag._n 52._o where_o speak_v of_o the_o picenum_n suburbicarium_fw-la and_o annonarium_fw-la i_o say_v the_o former_a belong_v to_o the_o praefecture_n of_o rome_n the_o latter_a with_o the_o seven_o province_n in_o the_o broad_a part_n of_o italy_n belong_v to_o the_o diocese_n as_o it_o be_v ancient_o call_v of_o italy_n of_o which_o milan_n be_v the_o metropolis_n num._n 4_o this_o be_v the_o affirmation_n which_o he_o except_v against_o i_o do_v not_o nor_o yet_o do_v make_v any_o question_n of_o vindicate_v and_o defend_v it_o against_o any_o objection_n num._n 5_o that_o learned_a man_n say_v the_o contrary_a be_v here_o suggest_v in_o the_o close_a but_o as_o there_o be_v not_o one_o learned_a man_n name_v nor_o testimony_n produce_v which_o therefore_o amount_v no_o high_a than_o the_o bare_a opinion_n or_o affirmation_n of_o this_o one_o gentleman_n without_o any_o one_o reason_n or_o authority_n to_o support_v it_o so_o when_o any_o such_o learned_a man_n name_n and_o testimony_n shall_v be_v produce_v it_o will_v be_v easy_a to_o show_v that_o there_o be_v very_o little_a of_o their_o learning_n express_v in_o so_o say_v num._n 6_o on_o the_o other_o side_n i_o have_v pag._n 50._o in_o the_o margin_n refer_v to_o some_o testimony_n whereon_o my_o assertion_n be_v found_v viz_o those_o which_o manifest_o distinguish_v the_o province_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n from_o the_o province_n of_o italy_n which_o can_v not_o have_v have_v truth_n in_o they_o if_o the_o province_n of_o the_o patriarch_n of_o rome_n extend_v to_o all_o italy_n num._n 7_o such_o be_v that_o of_o 〈◊〉_d eusebius_n distinct_o mention_v the_o bishop_n of_o the_o city_n of_o italy_n and_o the_o bishop_n that_o belong_v to_o the_o city_n of_o the_o roman_n the_o testimony_n out_o of_o the_o edict_n of_o the_o emperor_n aurelian_a in_o the_o controversy_n betwixt_o paulus_n samosatenus_fw-la and_o domnus_n where_o it_o be_v decree_v that_o the_o house_n about_o which_o they_o contend_v shall_v be_v deliver_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o those_o to_o who_o the_o bishop_n through_o italy_n and_o the_o city_n of_o the_o roman_n shall_v decree_v it_o num._n 8_o the_o like_a be_v that_o of_o the_o council_n of_o sardice_n set_v down_o in_o 756._o athanasius_n in_o the_o title_n of_o their_o epistle_n to_o the_o alexandrian_n thus_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n the_o holy_a synod_n by_o god_n grace_n assemble_v at_o sardice_n from_o rome_n and_o spain_n france_n italy_n etc._n etc._n num._n 9_o so_o in_o c._n athanasius_n declaration_n of_o his_o own_o affair_n and_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d agreement_n of_o many_o bishop_n with_o he_o he_o specify_v who_o and_o how_o many_o they_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n there_o be_v more_o than_o four_o hundred_o both_o from_o great_a rome_n and_o from_o all_o italy_n and_o from_o calabria_n etc._n etc._n where_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o roman_a province_n be_v distinguish_v from_o the_o bishop_n of_o italy_n as_o those_o again_o from_o the_o bishop_n of_o calabria_n etc._n etc._n num._n 10_o so_o among_o the_o name_n prefix_v to_o the_o 266._o first_o council_n of_o arles_n we_o have_v ex_fw-la provinciâ_fw-la italiae_fw-la civitate_fw-la mediclanensi_fw-la etc._n etc._n ex_fw-la urbe_fw-la româ_fw-la quos_fw-la sylvester_n episcopus_fw-la misit_fw-la ex_fw-la provinciâ_fw-la romanâ_fw-la civitate_fw-la portuensi_fw-la etc._n etc._n of_o the_o province_n of_o italy_n from_o the_o city_n of_o milan_n etc._n etc._n from_o the_o city_n of_o rome_n those_o who_o bishop_n sylvester_n send_v of_o the_o province_n of_o rome_n from_o the_o city_n of_o porta_n etc._n etc._n such_o and_o such_o be_v assemble_v at_o that_o council_n where_o again_o the_o matter_n be_v clear_a as_o to_o the_o distinction_n of_o those_o province_n of_o rome_n and_o italy_n the_o former_a under_o the_o presidency_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n the_o late_a of_o the_o bishop_n of_o milan_n num._n 11_o by_o
it_o be_v to_o we_o to_o stand_v with_o the_o romanist_n in_o full_a authority_n num._n 8_o three_o this_o be_v in_o perfect_a concord_n with_o the_o decree_n of_o gratian_n be_v in_o the_o aforesaid_a body_n of_o their_o canon_n law_n approve_v and_o set_v out_o by_o pope_n gregory_n xiii_o annex_v to_o that_o decree_n of_o gratian_n distinct_a 99_o c._n 1._o num._n 9_o and_o four_a whereas_o this_o gentleman_n say_v that_o as_o soon_o as_o occasion_n serve_v i_o will_v tell_v you_o this_o epistle_n of_o anacletus_fw-la be_v of_o no_o authority_n i_o must_v say_v 1._o that_o i_o have_v no_o where_o that_o i_o remember_v ever_o say_v so_o 2._o that_o this_o gentleman_n can_v without_o divine_v tell_v i_o now_o what_o i_o shall_v do_v hereafter_o 3._o that_o occasion_n not_o yet_o require_v it_o of_o i_o but_o anacletus_fw-la affirm_v what_o i_o affirm_v i_o have_v no_o temptation_n to_o do_v so_o and_o so_o as_o yet_o he_o can_v have_v no_o pretence_n to_o make_v use_n of_o this_o subterfuge_n 4._o that_o there_o be_v thing_n call_v argumenta_fw-la ad_fw-la homines_fw-la argument_n that_o may_v bind_v he_o who_o acknowledge_v the_o authority_n from_o which_o they_o be_v draw_v though_o they_o conclude_v not_o he_o that_o allow_v not_o those_o authority_n and_o such_o be_v this_o of_o anacletus_fw-la his_o epistle_n to_o a_o romanist_n num._n 10_o and_o by_o the_o same_o logic_n that_o he_o can_v infer_v that_o anacletus_n authority_n be_v undue_o produce_v by_o i_o who_o as_o he_o but_o think_v will_v not_o stand_v to_o anacletus_n authority_n i_o may_v sure_o conclude_v that_o anacletus_n authority_n be_v due_o produce_v by_o i_o because_o against_o he_o who_o i_o have_v reason_n to_o presume_v must_v stand_v to_o anacletus_n authority_n num._n 11_o a_o three_o testimony_n of_o the_o same_o nature_n i_o shall_v now_o add_v which_o must_v again_o have_v force_n with_o a_o romanist_n that_o of_o anicetus_n ad_fw-la episcopos_fw-la galliae_fw-la which_o follow_v there_o in_o the_o 2._o corpus_fw-la juris_fw-la canonici_fw-la primarum_fw-la civitatum_fw-la episcopos_fw-la apostoli_fw-la &_o successores_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la regulariter_fw-la patriarchas_fw-la &_o primate_fw-la esse_fw-la constituerunt_fw-la the_o apostle_n and_o their_o successor_n regular_o appoint_v that_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o prime_a city_n shall_v be_v primate_fw-la and_o patriarch_n and_o till_o somewhat_o be_v produce_v to_o the_o contrary_a as_o it_o be_v sure_a here_o be_v nothing_o offer_v by_o this_o gentleman_n this_o may_v at_o the_o present_a suffice_v in_o this_o place_n sect._n iu._n the_o supreme_a ecclesiastical_a power_n of_o patriarch_n the_o power_n of_o convoke_v counsel_n a_o prerogative_n of_o supremacy_n that_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n be_v not_o over_o patriarch_n proof_n from_o the_o counsel_n and_o canon_n apostolic_a and_o the_o corpus_fw-la juris_fw-la and_o pope_n gregorys_n argue_v num._n 1_o the_o last_o exception_n concern_v the_o supreme_a power_n of_o patriarch_n or_o the_o no_o superiority_n of_o any_o ecclesiastical_a power_n over_o they_o thus._n num._n 2_o then_o he_o say_v there_o be_v no_o power_n over_o the_o patriarch_n his_o proof_n be_v because_o the_o emperor_n use_v his_o secular_a authority_n in_o gather_v of_o counsel_n conclude_v that_o because_o the_o pope_n do_v not_o gather_v general_a counsel_n therefore_o he_o have_v no_o authority_n over_o the_o universal_a church_n which_o how_o unconsequent_a that_o be_v i_o leave_v to_o your_o judgement_n num._n 3_o that_o there_o be_v no_o supreme_a power_n in_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n nor_o in_o any_o other_o above_o that_o of_o primate_fw-la and_o patriarch_n but_o only_o that_o of_o the_o emperor_n in_o the_o whole_a christian_a world_n as_o of_o every_o sovereign_a prince_n in_o his_o dominion_n i_o think_v sufficient_o prove_v by_o this_o that_o the_o power_n of_o convoke_v counsel_n do_v not_o belong_v to_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n but_o to_o the_o prince_n in_o every_o nation_n and_o the_o emperor_n in_o the_o whole_a world_n and_o i_o deem_v this_o a_o sufficient_a proof_n not_o because_o there_o be_v no_o other_o branch_n of_o a_o supreme_a authority_n imaginable_a or_o which_o be_v claim_v by_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n save_v only_o this_o but_o i._o because_o this_o of_o convoke_a counsel_n be_v certain_o one_o such_o prerogative_n of_o the_o supreme_a power_n inseparable_a from_o it_o and_o he_o that_o have_v not_o that_o have_v not_o the_o supreme_a power_n as_o in_o any_o nation_n some_o prerogative_n there_o be_v which_o always_o be_v annex_v to_o the_o imperial_a majesty_n and_o wherever_o any_o one_o of_o they_o true_o be_v there_o be_v the_o supreme_a power_n and_o it_o be_v treason_n for_o any_o but_o the_o supreme_a to_o assume_v any_o one_o of_o they_o and_o one_o of_o that_o number_n be_v call_v of_o national_a assembly_n and_o second_o because_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n do_v as_o avowed_o challenge_v this_o power_n of_o convoke_v general_a counsel_n as_o any_o other_o i_o can_v have_v name_v or_o insist_v on_o and_o true_o that_o be_v the_o only_a reason_n why_o i_o specify_v in_o this_o because_o this_o of_o all_o other_o be_v most_o eminent_a in_o itself_o most_o characteristical_a of_o the_o supreme_a power_n and_o most_o challenge_v by_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n and_o most_o due_a to_o he_o in_o case_n he_o be_v the_o universal_a pastor_n num._n 4_o and_o then_o where_o there_o be_v several_a branch_n of_o a_o power_n all_o resident_a in_o the_o same_o subject_n inseparable_o from_o the_o absence_n of_o one_o to_o collect_v the_o absence_n of_o all_o i_o must_v still_o think_v a_o solid_a way_n of_o probation_n and_o can_v discern_v the_o infirm_a part_n or_o inconsequence_n of_o it_o if_o i_o can_v it_o will_v be_v no_o difficult_a matter_n to_o repair_v it_o and_o supply_v the_o imperfectnesse_n of_o the_o proof_n by_o what_o be_v put_v together_o in_o the_o corpus_fw-la juris_fw-la canonici_fw-la even_a now_o cite_v decret_a par_fw-fr 1._o do_v 99_o c._n 3_o 4_o 5._o num._n 5_o the_o thing_n that_o i_o have_v to_o prove_v be_v that_o there_o be_v not_o ancient_o any_o summum_fw-la genus_fw-la any_o supreme_a either_o of_o or_o over_o patriarch_n beside_o the_o prince_n or_o emperor_n to_o this_o as_o far_o as_o concern_v the_o negative_a part_n that_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n be_v not_o this_o summum_fw-la genus_fw-la i_o now_o cite_v from_o that_o three_o chap._n primae_fw-la sedis_fw-la episcopus_fw-la non_fw-la appelletur_fw-la princeps_fw-la sacerdotum_fw-la vel_fw-la summus_fw-la sacerdos_fw-la the_o bishop_n of_o the_o first_o seat_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v call_v prince_n of_o the_o priest_n or_o supreme_a priest_n and_o this_o testify_v out_o of_o the_o african_a council_n can_v 6._o where_o the_o very_a word_n be_v recite_v with_o this_o addition_n of_o aut_fw-la aliquid_fw-la hujusmodi_fw-la he_o be_v not_o to_o be_v call_v by_o any_o other_o title_n of_o the_o same_o kind_n sed_fw-la tantum_fw-la primae_fw-la sedis_fw-la episcopus_fw-la but_o only_a bishop_n of_o the_o first_o see_v and_o there_o be_v three_o such_o at_o that_o time_n those_o name_v in_o the_o nicene_n canon_n alexandria_n rome_n antioch_n as_o be_v sufficient_o know_v num._n 6_o and_o that_o he_o may_v see_v the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n be_v perfect_o concordant_a with_o that_o definition_n i_o refer_v this_o gentleman_n to_o the_o milevitan_a council_n cap._n 22._o where_o speak_v of_o appeal_n from_o their_o bishop_n the_o rule_n be_v non_fw-la provocent_fw-la nisi_fw-la ad_fw-la africana_fw-la concilia_fw-la vel_fw-la ad_fw-la primate_fw-la provinciarum_fw-la suarum_fw-la they_o must_v appeal_v to_o none_o but_o the_o african_a counsel_n or_o the_o primate_fw-la of_o their_o own_o province_n ad_fw-la transmarina_fw-la autem_fw-la qui_fw-la putaverint_fw-la appellandum_fw-la à_fw-la nullo_n intra_fw-la africam_fw-la in_o communionem_fw-la recipiantur_fw-la but_o if_o any_o shall_v think_v fit_a to_o appeal_v to_o any_o transmarine_a foreign_a judicature_n they_o be_v not_o to_o be_v admit_v to_o communion_n by_o any_o within_o africa_n and_o indeed_o the_o same_o have_v be_v before_o define_v by_o the_o first_o nicene_n council_n num._n 7_o c._n 5._o where_o the_o sentence_n pronounce_v against_o any_o by_o the_o bishop_n in_o each_o province_n be_v to_o stand_v good_a according_a to_o the_o canon_n i_o suppose_v the_o 12_o apostolic_a which_o pronounce_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o they_o which_o be_v excommunicate_v by_o some_o shall_v not_o be_v receive_v by_o other_o and_o according_o in_o the_o synodical_a epistle_n of_o the_o african_a council_n to_o pope_n celestine_n which_o be_v in_o the_o book_n of_o canon_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n and_o in_o the_o greek_a collection_n of_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o african_a church_n we_o find_v these_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d we_o entreat_v you_o the_o style_n of_o one_o church_n to_o another_o that_o for_o
the_o future_a you_o will_v not_o easy_o admit_v those_o who_o have_v come_v to_o you_o from_o hence_o and_o that_o you_o will_v not_o receive_v to_o your_o communion_n those_o who_o be_v excommunicate_a by_o we_o see_v the_o council_n of_o nice_a have_v thus_o define_v as_o you_o may_v easy_o discern_v num._n 8_o by_o all_o which_o put_v together_o by_o the_o african_a out_o of_o the_o nicene_n and_o by_o the_o nicene_n out_o of_o the_o apostolic_a canon_n it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n have_v not_o power_n to_o absolve_v any_o person_n excommunicate_a by_o any_o bishop_n of_o another_o province_n and_o that_o it_o be_v unlawful_a for_o any_o such_o to_o make_v appeal_n to_o he_o which_o certain_o will_v conclude_v against_o every_o the_o most_o inferior_a branch_n of_o his_o pretend_a authority_n over_o the_o universal_a church_n num._n 9_o if_o this_o be_v not_o enough_o then_o add_v the_o 34_o apostolic_a canon_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o bishop_n 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i._o e._n the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d say_v the_o scholiast_n the_o imperial_a decree_n concern_v that_o city_n 38._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o have_v the_o dignity_n of_o a_o episcopal_a or_o metropolitical_n see_n and_o the_o same_o again_o in_o the_o same_o word_n be_v decree_v by_o the_o 6._o council_n in_o trullo_n can._n 38._o from_o whence_o certain_o balsamon_n conclusion_n be_v irrefragable_a 17._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o it_o be_v lawful_a and_o so_o sure_a not_o tyrannical_a for_o a_o prince_n to_o take_v away_o or_o remove_v the_o privilege_n of_o the_o church_n of_o any_o city_n and_o 342._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o determine_v as_o he_o shall_v please_v concern_v the_o privilege_n of_o bishop_n num._n 14_o his_o second_o answer_n be_v that_o i_o do_v not_o say_v whether_o the_o thing_n be_v do_v or_o no_o by_o the_o consent_n of_o bishop_n especial_o since_o the_o pope_n be_v a_o actor_n in_o the_o business_n to_o 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〈◊〉_d from_o above_o sometime_o signify_v in_o respect_n of_o time_n sometime_o also_o in_o respect_n of_o place_n in_o the_o first_o respect_n it_o signify_v from_o of_o old_a and_o be_v oft_o join_v with_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d from_o the_o beginning_n and_o if_o it_o be_v so_o take_v here_o as_o gentianus_n hervetus_n interpret_v it_o olim_fw-la it_o must_v then_o signify_v that_o this_o power_n be_v yield_v to_o king_n either_o by_o the_o apostle_n or_o by_o the_o primitive_a canon_n of_o the_o church_n and_o if_o it_o be_v thus_o give_v they_o by_o the_o church_n then_o sure_o they_o may_v just_o challenge_v and_o exercise_v it_o free_o but_o in_o the_o second_o sense_n it_o be_v as_o certain_a that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v from_o above_o i._n e._n from_o heaven_n so_o joh._n 19_o 11._o christ_n tell_v pilate_n thou_o can_v have_v no_o power_n over_o i_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d unless_o it_o be_v give_v thou_o from_o above_o i._n e._n sure_a from_o 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