Selected quad for the lemma: church_n

Word A Word B Word C Word D Occurrence Frequency Band MI MI Band Prominent
church_n council_n general_n infallible_a 4,507 5 9.8847 5 false
View all documents for the selected quad

Text snippets containing the quad

ID Title Author Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication) STC Words Pages
A44213 The catechist catechized, or, An examination of an Anabaptistical catechism pretended to be published for the satisfaction and information of the people of God in Lancashire &c. : also some observations both old and new concerning the pretended visibility ... of the present Roman Church and religion / sent to a gentleman upon his revolt to popery and now published for the churches good by Richard Hollingworth. Hollingworth, Richard, 1607-1656. 1653 (1653) Wing H2487; ESTC R28107 42,729 60

There are 3 snippets containing the selected quad. | View original text

that_o as_o good_a testimony_n may_v be_v produce_v out_o of_o the_o father_n for_o the_o absolute_a necessity_n of_o the_o eucharist_n as_o for_o the_o absolute_a necessity_n of_o baptism_n 15._o also_o that_o though_o gemina_fw-la or_o duo_fw-la sacramenta_fw-la be_v sometime_o find_v yet_o septem_fw-la sacramenta_fw-la or_o word_n equivalent_a to_o they_o can_v be_v find_v in_o any_o ancient_a father_n though_o they_o do_v call_v by_o the_o name_n of_o sacrament_n not_o only_a ordination_n matrimony_n etc._n etc._n but_o ablution_n of_o the_o foot_n sign_n of_o the_o cross_n etc._n etc._n which_o be_v not_o proper_o so_o call_v 16._o i_o desire_v to_o be_v satisfy_v why_o you_o so_o frequent_o and_o suspicious_o the_o matter_n be_v so_o main_o controvert_v do_v in_o your_o allow_a manual_n catechism_n etc._n etc._n leave_v out_o of_o the_o decalogue_n all_o the_o second_o commandment_n or_o that_o large_a passage_n prohibit_v the_o worship_n of_o image_n 17._o also_o how_o you_o can_v reconcile_v the_o two_o bibles_n of_o sixtus_n and_o clement_n between_o which_o be_v so_o many_o and_o material_a difference_n or_o if_o you_o can_v reconcile_v they_o how_o you_o can_v satisfy_v your_o conscience_n whether_o of_o they_o be_v authentical_a see_v they_o have_v equal_a authority_n from_o the_o see_v apostolic_a equal_a absolution_n from_o oath_n of_o admit_v any_o other_o equal_a imprecation_n and_o curse_n to_o they_o which_o receive_v they_o not_o for_o authentical_a so_o that_o either_o you_o must_v use_v no_o bible_n at_o all_o or_o undergo_v the_o curse_n of_o pope_n sixtus_n if_o you_o use_v that_o of_o clement_n or_o of_o pope_n clement_n if_o you_o use_v the_o other_o of_o sixtus_n 18._o for_o as_o much_o as_o tradition_n be_v define_v to_o be_v the_o rule_n of_o faith_n and_o equal_a to_o the_o scripture_n and_o nothing_o be_v more_o necessary_a for_o the_o church_n to_o do_v then_o to_o deliver_v the_o rule_n of_o faith_n clear_o and_o precise_o what_o be_v the_o cause_n i_o pray_v you_o that_o no_o pope_n or_o council_n no_o not_o that_o of_o trent_n have_v give_v a_o exact_a catalogue_n or_o list_n of_o divine_a and_o infallible_a tradition_n be_v it_o because_o you_o be_v not_o full_o as_o yet_o agree_v of_o they_o or_o be_v they_o for_o some_o politic_a end_n reserve_v in_o the_o pope_n breast_n 19_o this_o assertion_n that_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v infallible_a in_o all_o her_o decree_n and_o definition_n be_v the_o foundation_n of_o your_o faith_n and_o if_o it_o fail_v your_o faith_n fail_v also_o yet_o it_o be_v much_o doubt_v of_o yea_o deny_v by_o some_o romanist_n nor_o as_o i_o suppose_v be_v it_o ever_o declate_v decree_v or_o define_v by_o the_o church_n in_o any_o general_n council_n if_o it_o be_v i_o pray_v you_o show_v i_o when_o where_o and_o in_o what_o term_n 20._o suppose_v this_o be_v so_o define_v and_o thereupon_o you_o be_v assure_v that_o the_o church_n be_v infallible_a yet_o you_o can_v be_v infallible_o assure_v what_o be_v mean_v by_o the_o church_n which_o some_o of_o your_o doctor_n interpret_v to_o be_v the_o church_n essential_a some_o the_o church_n representative_a which_o as_o some_o of_o they_o hold_v be_v a_o general_n council_n though_o without_o the_o pope_n other_o the_o council_n and_o the_o pope_n together_o some_o the_o church_n virtual_a the_o pope_n alone_o which_o yet_o be_v not_o agree_v among_o themselves_o when_o where_o and_o in_o what_o matter_n the_o pope_n may_v or_o may_v not_o err_v 21._o if_o herein_o you_o be_v resolve_v yet_o you_o can_v be_v infallible_o assure_v that_o the_o present_a pope_n be_v a_o true_a and_o lawful_a pope_n see_v he_o may_v be_v promote_v by_o simony_n or_o his_o baptizer_n or_o ordainer_n or_o the_o baptizer_n or_o ordainer_n of_o they_o or_o some_o of_o they_o may_v miss_v the_o right_a intention_n of_o baptise_v or_o ordain_v in_o which_o case_n he_o can_v be_v in_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n a_o lawful_a pope_n 22._o put_v case_n you_o hope_v well_o of_o your_o pope_n yet_o it_o be_v possible_a you_o may_v mistake_v papal_a decree_n definition_n etc._n etc._n and_o not_o understand_v they_o in_o their_o true_a and_o genuine_a sense_n soto_n and_o catharinus_n who_o be_v present_a at_o the_o trent_n council_n can_v not_o agree_v what_o be_v the_o counsel_n mean_v in_o the_o point_n of_o original_a sin_n and_o justification_n but_o write_v book_n one_o against_o another_o of_o that_o subject_a 23._o you_o will_v say_v perhaps_o the_o pope_n be_v a_o live_a judge_n to_o determine_v these_o or_o the_o like_a doubt_n which_o if_o it_o be_v grant_v yet_o still_o you_o have_v no_o such_o infallible_a certainty_n as_o you_o pretend_v for_o you_o never_o hear_v the_o pope_n preach_v propound_v truth_n or_o resolve_v doubt_n you_o only_o hear_v his_o priest_n and_o jesuit_n who_o i_o hope_v you_o will_v not_o exempt_v from_o a_o possibility_n of_o deceive_v or_o be_v deceive_v especial_o see_v both_o priest_n and_o jesuit_n dominican_n and_o franciscan_n do_v pretend_v the_o pope_n to_o be_v their_o patron_n and_o their_o tenant_n though_o contrary_a one_o to_o another_o to_o be_v the_o tenant_n of_o the_o church_n 24._o last_o to_o omit_v other_o observation_n till_o further_a occasion_n if_o proof_n of_o the_o church_n infallibility_n be_v demand_v of_o you_o you_o will_v allege_v matth._n 16.18_o or_o luke_n 22.32_o or_o some_o other_o scripture_n if_o again_o you_o be_v demand_v what_o assutance_n you_o have_v that_o matth._n 16.18_o luk._n 22.32_o and_o the_o other_o scripture_n be_v of_o divine_a authority_n and_o that_o they_o be_v not_o corrupt_v nor_o miss_v interpret_v you_o must_v answer_v that_o the_o church_n be_v infallible_a which_o keep_v and_o interpret_v the_o scripture_n thus_o you_o prove_v the_o infallibility_n of_o the_o church_n by_o the_o scripture_n and_o the_o infallibility_n of_o the_o scripture_n by_o the_o church_n which_o be_v nothing_o else_o but_o to_o run_v round_o in_o a_o circle_n to_o beg_v the_o question_n and_o in_o effect_n to_o prove_v the_o church_n infallibility_n by_o the_o infallibility_n of_o the_o church_n imprimatur_fw-la edm_n calamy_n march_n 4._o 1652._o finis_fw-la
16._o cum_fw-la gen._n 6.1_o 2._o so_o ishmael_n cast_v out_o and_o the_o ishmaelite_n gal._n 4_o 30._o gen._n 21.10_o 14._o psal_n 83.6_o which_o last_o place_n mention_n the_o edomite_n also_o which_o be_v the_o posterity_n of_o abraham_n yea_o all_o the_o twelve_o tribe_n which_o be_v the_o seed_n of_o abraham_n be_v cast_v off_o at_o the_o last_o and_o yet_o their_o be_v beget_v after_o the_o fl●sh_n and_o be_v circumcise_v in_o the_o flesh_n be_v a_o help_n not_o a_o hindrance_n to_o their_o be_v beget_v of_o the_o promise_n or_o to_o circumcision_n in_o the_o spirit_n jacob_n be_v of_o isaac_n and_o rebecca_n after_o the_o flesh_n and_o yet_o also_o the_o heir_n of_o promise_n and_o as_o then_o some_o be_v bear_v only_o after_o the_o flesh_n as_o ishmael_n esau_n and_o some_o be_v also_o bear_v after_o the_o spirit_n as_o isaac_n jacob_n so_o the_o apostle_n look_v not_o only_o to_o the_o parallel_n but_o to_o the_o history_n say_v so_o it_o be_v now_o some_o even_o in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o gospel_n be_v bear_v of_o christian_a parent_n only_o after_o the_o flesh_n and_o some_o also_o after_o the_o spirit_n and_o these_o do_v persecute_v one_o another_o gal._n 4.29_o this_o difference_n may_v discover_v itself_o in_o ripe_a year_n but_o in_o infancy_n it_o be_v as_o undiscoverable_a now_o as_o then_o 3._o it_o be_v not_o necessary_a that_o they_o shall_v be_v the_o carnal_a seed_n of_o abraham_n that_o be_v in_o covenant-relation_n and_o initiate_v into_o the_o church_n for_o abraham_n be_v as_o to_o this_o not_o only_o the_o father_n of_o the_o jew_n but_o of_o many_o nation_n and_o upon_o this_o account_n his_o name_n be_v change_v gen._n 17.4.5_o proselyte_n be_v gentile_n as_o well_o as_o we_o and_o not_o of_o his_o carnal_a seed_n nor_o many_o so_o much_o as_o of_o his_o family_n yet_o they_o be_v the_o seed_n of_o abraham_n by_o believe_v as_o well_o as_o we_o be_v now_o and_o they_o be_v not_o only_o initiate_v into_o the_o church_n but_o those_o of_o they_o that_o be_v of_o abraham_n family_n be_v the_o foundational_n and_o first_o member_n of_o the_o church_n as_o constitute_v in_o abraham_n family_n his_o 318_o train_a servant_n beside_o other_o be_v not_o all_o if_o any_o of_o his_o carnal_a seed_n 4._o as_o for_o the_o infant_n of_o believer_n which_o you_o separate_v from_o their_o parent_n of_o which_o see_v before_o chap._n 3._o §_o 3._o and_o make_v they_o a_o four_o seed_n you_o know_v that_o proselyte_n become_v abraham_n seed_n only_o by_o believe_v as_o you_o say_v we_o gentile_n now_o do_v and_o yet_o their_o child_n be_v account_v abraham_n seed_n though_o they_o be_v none_o of_o the_o three_o which_o you_o mention_n and_o as_o such_o be_v initiate_v into_o the_o church_n gen._n 17.12_o 23._o exod._n 12.48_o 49._o in_o the_o same_o sense_n that_o abraham_n be_v a_o father_n to_o a_o proselyte_n or_o believe_v gentile_a and_o his_o seed_n then_o he_o be_v a_o father_n to_o a_o christian_a gentile_n and_o his_o seed_n now_o for_o his_o paternity_n abide_v the_o same_o nor_o can_v you_o show_v a_o better_a warrant_n for_o his_o paternity_n over_o the_o one_o then_o over_o the_o other_o nor_o have_v the_o gentile_n lose_v any_o privilege_n by_o the_o come_n of_o christ_n which_o they_o have_v before_o the_o scripture_n say_v the_o brethren_n now_o be_v the_o child_n of_o the_o promise_n as_o isaac_n be_v gal._n 4.28_o now_o isaac_n be_v the_o seed_n of_o abraham_n and_o in_o the_o promise_n as_o a_o infant_n of_o believe_a parent_n before_o he_o be_v a_o actual_a believer_n and_o his_o infant_n wa●_n within_o the_o covenant_n and_o according_o initiate_v into_o the_o church_n abraham_n may_v say_v god_n be_v my_o god_n and_o the_o god_n of_o my_o infant_n seed_n and_o so_o may_v the_o gentile_a proselyte_v say_v also_o and_o why_o may_v not_o a_o christian_a who_o be_v bless_v with_o faithful_a abraham_n gal._n 3.9_o say_v so_o too_o especial_o see_v jesus_n christ_n the_o minister_n of_o circumcision_n do_v not_o abrogate_v but_o confirm_v the_o promise_n make_v unto_o the_o father_n and_o that_o the_o gentile_n may_v glorify_v god_n for_o his_o mercy_n etc._n etc._n rom._n 15.8_o 9_o god_n allude_v to_o the_o outward_a circumcision_n of_o his_o people_n and_o their_o seed_n promise_v to_o circumcise_v their_o heart_n and_o the_o heart_n of_o their_o seed_n deut._n 30.6_o and_o this_o promise_n be_v gospel_n and_o a_o parcel_n of_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n as_o appear_v by_o deut._n 30.6_o 10_o 11_o 12._o with_o rom._n 10.6_o 7_o 8._o and_o this_o circumcision_n of_o the_o heart_n be_v commend_v rom._n 2.28_o 29._o and_o be_v signify_v and_o seal_v in_o baptism_n colos_n 2.11_o 12._o it_o be_v observe_v that_o gen._n 17.7_o speak_v not_o of_o abraham_n and_o his_o seed_n which_o you_o say_v be_v actual_a believer_n abstract_o take_v but_o of_o his_o seed_n in_o their_o generation_n which_o word_n necessary_o imply_v and_o include_v as_o the_o parent_n generate_a so_o the_o child_n generate_v last_o abraham_n be_v not_o only_o call_v the_o father_n of_o particular_a believer_n but_o the_o father_n of_o nation_n profess_v the_o true_a faith_n as_o well_o as_o of_o the_o jewish_a nation_n every_o nation_n receive_v the_o true_a faith_n as_o they_o do_v and_o in_o which_o there_o be_v a_o national_a agreement_n in_o doctrine_n worship_n discipline_n as_o be_v in_o the_o nation_n of_o the_o jew_n be_v a_o holy_a nation_n a_o peculiar_a people_n to_o the_o lord_n even_o egypt_n and_o assyria_n with_o israel_n and_o may_v call_v abraham_n father_n isai_n 19.21_o gen._n 17.5_o when_o the_o gentile_n be_v graff_v into_o that_o stock_n from_o which_o the_o jew_n be_v break_v off_o and_o do_v partake_v of_o the_o root_n and_o fatness_n of_o the_o olive_n tree_n rom._n 11.17_o and_o abraham_n begin_v to_o be_v the_o father_n of_o many_o nation_n rom._n 4.16_o 17._o regenerate_v infant_n be_v abraham_n spiritual_a seed_n by_o mr._n t._n his_o confession_n and_o he_o profess_v that_o he_o will_v baptize_v they_o if_o he_o can_v know_v they_o i_o be_o sure_a not_o one_o dare_v say_v of_o this_o or_o that_o particular_a infant_n that_o it_o be_v not_o regenerate_v yea_o we_o be_v bind_v to_o judge_n they_o be_v such_o till_o something_o appear_v to_o the_o contrary_n anabapt_v cat._n q._n but_o be_v not_o the_o child_n of_o godly_a person_n visible_o in_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n a._n no_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n be_v a_o invisible_a thing_n and_o we_o can_v know_v who_o be_v in_o it_o nor_o have_v we_o ground_n to_o judge_n person_n be_v in_o it_o till_o we_o see_v some_o profession_n of_o holy_a life_n of_o faith_n and_o repentance_n which_o infant_n can_v make_v not_o to_o spe●k_v of_o such_o as_o be_v only_o intentional_o in_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n as_o child_n yet_o unborn_a may_v be_v 1._o examinat_fw-la cap._n 8._o §_o 1._o deut._n 29.15_o those_o that_o be_v actual_o in_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n be_v of_o two_o sort_n some_o be_v external_o in_o it_o as_o ishmael_n judas_n simon_n magus_n and_o so_o all_o such_o as_o own_o god_n to_o be_v their_o god_n and_o themselves_o to_o be_v his_o people_n as_o the_o jewish_a church_n do_v and_o every_o true_a christian_a church_n do_v though_o but_o external_o be_v say_v to_o be_v within_o the_o covenant_n yourself_o say_v that_o profession_n of_o faith_n and_o repentance_n be_v ground_n to_o judge_v some_o person_n to_o be_v in_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n there_o be_v external_a be_v in_o christ_n joh._n 15.2_o vocation_n mat._n 22.14_o sanctification_n heb._n 10.29_o and_o purge_v from_o sin_n 2_o pet._n 1.9_o but_o some_o be_v also_o internal_o and_o save_o in_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n as_o isaac_n jacob_n while_o infant_n and_o when_o adult_n also_o zacheus_n lydia_n and_o her_o household_n the_o jailor_n and_o all_o he_o this_o distinction_n be_v ground_v upon_o rom._n 9.4_o 6_o 7_o 8._o we_o may_v know_v who_o be_v in_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n external_o but_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n in_o the_o second_o sense_n be_v invisible_a and_o none_o can_v know_v who_o be_v in_o it_o in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o jew_n though_o infant_n be_v then_o visible_o in_o it_o and_o initiate_v as_o such_o or_o among_o christian_n if_o the_o invisibleness_n of_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n and_o our_o not_o know_v who_o be_v in_o it_o do_v exclude_v infant_n it_o do_v also_o exclude_v adult_a professor_n from_o admission_n into_o the_o church_n for_o the_o sign_n of_o their_o be_v saving_o in_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n be_v but_o conjectural_a hopeful_a and_o probable_a not_o certain_a and_o infallible_a none_o can_v be_v sure_a that_o he_o that_o make_v profession_n at_o a_o
penance_n extreme_a unction_n order_n of_o which_o there_o be_v seven_o viz._n priest_n deacon_n subdeacons_a acolytes_n exorcist_n lector_n or_o reader_n ostiaries_n or_o doorkeeper_n and_o matrimony_n god_n be_v to_o be_v invocate_v and_o religious_o worship_v yea_o and_o the_o image_n of_o god_n also_o cross_n crucifix_n altar_n angel_n saint_n with_o their_o relic_n and_o image_n christ_n be_v the_o head_n of_o the_o church_n and_o the_o pope_n also_o christ_n be_v our_o mediator_n and_o advocate_n so_o be_v the_o angel_n and_o saint_n likewise_o christ_n be_v conceive_v without_o original_a sin_n and_o the_o virgin_n mary_n also_o christ_n be_v once_o sacrifice_v on_o the_o cross_n for_o the_o redemption_n of_o the_o world_n christ_n be_v daily_o offer_v up_o in_o mass_n a_o propitiatory_a sacrifice_n for_o the_o sin_n of_o quick_a and_o dead_a we_o be_v save_v by_o the_o merit_n of_o christ_n and_o also_o by_o the_o merit_n of_o the_o saint_n we_o be_v justify_v by_o faith_n and_o by_o hope_n love_v fear_n of_o god_n good_a work_n which_o merit_n salvation_n all_o the_o word_n and_o action_n which_o scripture_n record_v to_o be_v use_v by_o christ_n in_o the_o celebration_n of_o the_o supper_n be_v to_o be_v use_v by_o we_o also_o the_o sacred_a host_n must_v also_o be_v elevate_v adore_v reserve_v carry_v in_o solemn_a procession_n christ_n be_v true_o present_a in_o the_o eucharist_n christ_n be_v corporal_o present_a by_o transubstantiation_n and_o may_v be_v receive_v into_o the_o mouth_n of_o wicked_a man_n yea_o of_o rat_n and_o mouse_n there_o be_v two_o place_n for_o the_o soul_n of_o such_o as_o depart_v hence_o and_o two_o beside_o viz._n purgatory_n and_o limbus_n infantum_fw-la the_o three_o creed_n common_o call_v the_o creed_n of_o the_o apostle_n of_o the_o nicene_n council_n and_o of_o athanasius_n be_v to_o be_v receive_v and_o believe_v and_o pope_n pius_n his_o creed_n also_o or_o his_o addition_n to_o the_o nicene_n creed_n be_v also_o to_o be_v receive_v and_o believe_v these_o and_o the_o like_a positive_a point_n of_o the_o reform_a religion_n whereof_o i_o omit_v sundry_a be_v true_o and_o proper_o catholic_n for_o in_o they_o not_o only_a papist_n but_o in_o a_o manner_n all_o christian_n in_o the_o world_n concur_v with_o we_o but_o in_o your_o addition_n you_o stand_v single_a and_o have_v multitude_n of_o christian_n in_o the_o eastern_a and_o western_a church_n dissent_v from_o you_o 2._o peruse_v the_o book_n of_o nine_o and_o thirty_o article_n the_o homily_n leiturgy_n and_o catechism_n or_o the_o late_a directory_n confession_n of_o faith_n or_o catechism_n large_a or_o short_a and_o find_v if_o you_o can_v the_o doctrine_n of_o our_o church_n contrary_a to_o any_o one_o article_n of_o those_o several_a creed_n which_o in_o the_o first_o six_o hundred_o year_n be_v badge_n of_o catholic_a profession_n or_o produce_v any_o one_o of_o those_o article_n to_o which_o we_o do_v not_o willing_o subscribe_v 3._o though_o the_o ancient_a church_n do_v undoubted_o believe_v and_o profess_v all_o that_o be_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n yet_o there_o be_v not_o one_o creed_n of_o general_n or_o national_a counce_v particular_a church_n or_o father_n within_o a_o thousand_o or_o twelve_o hundred_o year_n after_o christ_n in_o which_o the_o article_n of_o pope_n pius_n his_o creed_n be_v impose_v as_o now_o they_o be_v for_o article_n of_o faith_n necessary_a to_o be_v believe_v unto_o salvation_n 4._o the_o church_n of_o god_n as_o might_n be_v prove_v by_o scripture_n or_o father_n if_o it_o be_v not_o acknowledge_v by_o your_o own_o author_n can_v make_v a_o new_a article_n of_o faith_n nor_o any_o addition_n to_o the_o creed_n save_v by_o way_n of_o explication_n of_o that_o which_o be_v former_o upon_o scripture_n ground_n believe_v and_o profess_v but_o these_o addition_n of_o you_o be_v not_o believe_v if_o you_o shall_v say_v that_o they_o be_v believe_v implicit_o this_o suppose_v it_o true_a will_v take_v away_o the_o visibility_n of_o the_o profession_n thereof_o by_o the_o ancient_a catholic_a and_o apostolic_a church_n 5._o none_o of_o your_o side_n hitherto_o have_v or_o hereafter_o can_v produce_v any_o one_o visible_a church_n which_o in_o the_o apostolic_a and_o in_o all_o succeed_a age_n do_v approve_v and_o use_v communion_n in_o one_o kind_n private_a mass_n prayer_n in_o a_o unknown_a tongue_n image-worship_n pardon_n indulgence_n which_o believe_v the_o pope_n infallibility_n his_o superiority_n over_o general_a counsel_n his_o temporal_a authority_n over_o king_n and_o emperor_n to_o depose_v they_o and_o dispose_v of_o their_o dominion_n the_o necessity_n of_o auricular_a confession_n the_o determinate_a number_n of_o seven_o sacrament_n purgatory_n and_o the_o pope_n power_n to_o deliver_v soul_n from_o thence_o which_o forbid_v layman_n without_o a_o special_a dispensation_n to_o read_v the_o scripture_n or_o priest_n to_o marry_v etc._n etc._n 6._o nay_o you_o can_v name_v any_o one_o person_n in_o each_o several_a age_n out_o of_o who_o word_n or_o writing_n notwithstanding_o there_o be_v sundry_a creed_n confession_n of_o faith_n catechism_n sermon_n or_o homily_n summary_n of_o christian_a doctrine_n the_o aforesaid_a particular_a point_n of_o popery_n may_v be_v collect_v descend_v from_o the_o age_n of_o christ_n to_o the_o day_n of_o luther_n 7._o nay_o you_o can_v name_v any_o one_o father_n or_o catholic_a writer_n for_o twelve_o hundred_o year_n after_o christ_n that_o do_v hold_v all_o those_o tenet_n which_o be_v now_o teach_v by_o the_o romish_a church_n and_o authorize_v by_o the_o trent_n council_n 8._o none_o of_o your_o side_n have_v or_o can_v prove_v that_o any_o of_o the_o primitive_a martyr_n or_o confessor_n suffer_v death_n banishment_n torment_n confiscation_n etc._n etc._n for_o the_o popish_a religion_n or_o any_o particular_a thereof_o in_o which_o they_o differ_v from_o the_o church_n of_o england_n as_o papal_a supremacy_n communion_n in_o one_o kind_n image-worship_n etc._n etc._n 9_o you_o can_v show_v that_o any_o one_o article_n of_o your_o faith_n in_o which_o we_o dissent_v from_o you_o be_v catholic_a according_a to_o vincentius_n lirinensis_n his_o rule_n viz._n which_o be_v ancient_a in_o his_o time_n and_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o arrian_n heresy_n which_o he_o call_v novellum_fw-la dogma_fw-la a_o novel_a tenet_n and_o that_o which_o you_o know_v that_o not_o unus_fw-la aut_fw-la duo_fw-la tantum_fw-la sed_fw-la omnes_fw-la etc._n etc._n not_o only_o one_o or_o two_o but_o all_o though_o live_v in_o several_a time_n and_o place_n have_v with_o one_o consent_n open_o frequent_o constant_o hold_v write_v and_o teach_v 10._o none_o of_o your_o side_n dare_v for_o shame_n affirm_v that_o communion_n in_o both_o kind_n prayer_n in_o a_o know_a tongue_n communion_n of_o priest_n with_o people_n layman_n read_v of_o the_o scripture_n worship_n of_o god_n without_o image_n invocation_n of_o god_n without_o mediation_n of_o saint_n or_o angel_n and_o other_o the_o aforesaid_a affirmative_a and_o positive_a doctrine_n be_v invent_v by_o luther_n or_o that_o they_o be_v not_o in_o themselves_o so_o lawful_a and_o agreeable_a to_o the_o scripture_n and_o practice_v of_o the_o first_o six_o century_n of_o year_n as_o communion_n in_o one_o kind_n prayer_n in_o a_o unknown_a tongue_n etc._n etc._n 11._o there_o be_v few_o or_o no_o point_n deny_v or_o affirm_v against_o we_o by_o you_o in_o which_o you_o vary_v not_o among_o yourselves_o and_o if_o any_o of_o you_o will_v distinct_o set_v down_o avoid_v general_a and_o ambiguous_a term_n what_o he_o think_v to_o be_v the_o truth_n in_o any_o question_n or_o exposition_n of_o scripture_n controvert_v betwixt_o we_o i_o very_o believe_v i_o can_v name_v he_o another_o papist_n new_a or_o old_a that_o say_v the_o contrary_a bellarmine_n do_v obiter_fw-la discover_v to_o the_o world_n above_o three_o hundred_o several_a opinion_n of_o papist_n and_o those_o only_a in_o and_o about_o the_o point_n controvert_v between_o you_o and_o we_o and_o navane_n mention_n about_o sixty_o dissension_n of_o your_o doctor_n in_o one_o only_a point_n to_o wit_n confession_n 12._o i_o shall_v hold_v till_o herein_o i_o be_v convince_v of_o error_n by_o instance_n to_o the_o contrary_a that_o whatsoever_o title_n be_v by_o the_o ancient_a father_n give_v to_o the_o eucharist_n whereby_o you_o will_v prove_v transubstantiation_n adoration_n sacrifice_n etc._n etc._n the_o same_o phrase_n or_o some_o equivalent_a to_o they_o may_v be_v find_v in_o the_o father_n concern_v baptism_n in_o which_o you_o confess_v there_o be_v neither_o transubstantiation_n nor_o sacrifice_n 13._o also_o that_o those_o glorious_a thing_n which_o be_v speak_v by_o they_o of_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n may_v be_v parallel_v by_o such_o as_o read_v they_o thorough_o with_o the_o like_a honourable_a mention_n of_o other_o patriarch_n and_o bishop_n 14._o also_o