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hereof_o 15.6_o hereof_o confut._n of_o rhem._n annot._n on_o act._n 15.6_o we_o will_v not_o strive_v whether_o the_o council_n be_v general_n or_o provincial_n but_o it_o may_v be_v count_v a_o general_n council_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o presence_n of_o the_o apostle_n which_o be_v governor_n of_o all_o the_o church_n of_o the_o world_n i._o can._n ii_o as_o mr_n cartwright_n say_v place_n say_v refut_o of_o rhem._n on_o the_o place_n paul_n and_o barnabas_n go_v not_o up_o to_o jerusalem_n to_o submit_v their_o judgement_n to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o apostle_n for_o that_o have_v diminish_v the_o authority_n of_o their_o doctrine_n than_o which_o there_o be_v no_o great_a in_o the_o world_n they_o be_v both_o infallible_o direct_v by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n only_o they_o go_v up_o to_o confer_v with_o they_o and_o for_o countenance_n of_o the_o truth_n in_o respect_n of_o man_n
as_o appear_v 3._o appear_v act._n synod_n nat._n dordr_n sess_n 4._o art_n 3._o in_o the_o law_n &_o order_n prescribe_v by_o the_o illustrious_a ll._n the_o state_n general_n etc._n etc._n iii_o even_o of_o those_o which_o by_o a_o lawful_a election_n &_o deputation_n be_v send_v unto_o synod_n whether_o they_o be_v minister_n and_o elder_n or_o other_o member_n of_o the_o church_n there_o ought_v to_o be_v a_o limit_a and_o certain_a number_n for_o if_o every_o church_n in_o a_o whole_a nation_n may_v send_v as_o many_o as_o they_o will_v or_o can_v there_o may_v be_v thousand_o and_o ten_o thousand_o gather_v together_o into_o some_o synod_n whereby_o great_a confusion_n and_o disorder_n in_o the_o discuss_n and_o judge_v of_o many_o cause_n will_v apparent_o follow_v d._n whitaker_n say_v 81._o say_v de_fw-fr conc_fw-fr q._n 3._o p._n 81._o certain_o confusion_n can_v be_v avoid_v when_o too_o many_o meet_v together_o and_o as_o for_o that_o synod_n at_o jerusalem_n he_o say_v 6._o say_v ibid._n q._n 1._o c._n 6._o that_o assembly_n can_v not_o be_v great_a because_o they_o be_v compass_v about_o with_o the_o priest_n and_o pharisee_n and_o therefore_o also_o in_o the_o practice_n of_o these_o church_n there_o be_v a_o certain_a number_n determine_v of_o such_o as_o be_v to_o be_v send_v unto_o synod_n as_o appear_v likewise_o in_o 3._o in_o act._n synod_n nat._n dordr_n sess_n 4._o art_n 3._o those_o law_n before_o mention_v if_o mr_n can_n will_v allow_v any_o limitation_n of_o number_n and_o can_v therein_o satisfy_v himself_o that_o he_o do_v not_o deprive_v the_o people_n &_o church_n of_o their_o right_n he_o may_v thereby_o also_o satisfy_v himself_o for_o any_o thing_n that_o he_o object_v unto_o we_o in_o this_o behalf_n iv_o we_o do_v further_o grant_v this_o liberty_n even_o unto_o such_o as_o be_v no_o delegate_n or_o deputy_n of_o the_o church_n that_o though_o they_o be_v not_o allow_v for_o judge_n yet_o many_o of_o they_o 9_o they_o inn._n animadv_n in_o bell._n de_fw-fr council_n l._n 1._o c._n 15._o n._n 2.3_o &_o 9_o as_o hearer_n may_v for_o their_o edification_n be_v present_a at_o the_o communication_n &_o conference_n in_o the_o synod_n that_o they_o may_v profit_v in_o godliness_n this_o also_o be_v the_o practice_n of_o these_o church_n both_o in_o provincial_n and_o nationall_n synod_n so_o far_o as_o the_o place_n will_v convenient_o receive_v a_o competent_a number_n and_o so_o also_o it_o be_v observe_v in_o the_o nationall_n synod_n at_o dort_n v._o this_o liberty_n of_o hear_v in_o synod_n be_v so_o moderate_v &_o restrain_v that_o though_o they_o which_o have_v no_o call_n unto_o the_o synod_n may_v hear_v question_n touch_v doctrine_n and_o religion_n discuss_v yet_o such_o be_v not_o allow_v to_o be_v present_a and_o to_o hear_v when_o personal_a matter_n of_o scandal_n and_o offence_n come_v to_o be_v examine_v because_o as_o junius_n say_v 9_o say_v ibid._n c._n 15._o n._n 9_o contra_fw-la charitatem_fw-la fuisset_fw-la nam_fw-la veritatis_fw-la cognitio_fw-la ad_fw-la omnes_fw-la pertinet_fw-la infirmitatum_fw-la minime_fw-la that_o be_v it_o have_v be_v against_o charity_n for_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o truth_n belong_v unto_o all_o the_o knowledge_n of_o infirmity_n not_o so_o vi_o touch_v the_o right_a and_o liberty_n of_o synod_n there_o be_v many_o other_o thing_n to_o be_v further_o observe_v when_o mr_n cartwright_n have_v speak_v very_o much_o for_o the_o liberty_n of_o the_o people_n in_o synod_n yet_o for_o prevention_n of_o mistake_v and_o by_o way_n of_o correct_v himself_o after_o a_o sort_n he_o say_v 5._o say_v confut._n of_o the_o rhemist_n ann._n on_o act._n 15._o v._o 6._o n._n 5._o yet_o write_v we_o not_o this_o as_o though_o the_o people_n presence_n either_o in_o all_o counsel_n where_o the_o doctrine_n be_v not_o in_o controversy_n be_v omit_v be_v the_o negative_a particle_n add_v there_o seem_v to_o be_v the_o printer_n fault_n be_v concrary_a to_o that_o which_o go_v before_o and_o follow_v after_o make_v no_o good_a sense_n in_o his_o word_n &_o be_v therefore_o to_o be_v omit_v needful_a or_o that_o in_o those_o counsel_n where_o they_o be_v present_a they_o have_v like_o right_a with_o those_o bishop_n and_o elder_n for_o they_o we_o mean_v bishop_n and_o elder_n may_v first_o by_o a_o several_a and_o foreset_v deliberation_n take_v counsel_n whether_o it_o be_v expedient_a to_o propound_v any_o such_o matter_n as_o be_v in_o controversy_n in_o that_o council_n where_o the_o people_n shall_v be_v present_a whereby_o if_o they_o perceive_v any_o general_a and_o obstinate_a opposition_n of_o they_o against_o the_o truth_n they_o may_v hold_v that_o point_n of_o doctrine_n back_o this_o we_o see_v to_o have_v be_v do_v by_o josias_n who_o or_o ever_o he_o assemble_v the_o people_n first_o of_o all_o assemble_v the_o elder_n of_o juda_n and_o jerusalem_n 2._o king_n 23.1_o also_o by_o james_n who_o at_o paul_n arrival_n to_o jerusalem_n first_o assemble_v the_o elder_n to_o debate_n of_o the_o matter_n or_o ever_o he_o be_v present_v before_o the_o church_n act._n 21.18_o 19_o second_o if_o the_o people_n shall_v bewray_v a_o wilful_a stubborness_n against_o the_o truth_n not_o suspect_v by_o they_o yet_o the_o governor_n be_v sound_n without_o who_o there_o can_v nothing_o be_v conclude_v there_o shall_v not_o follow_v any_o prejudice_n of_o the_o counsel_n authority_n against_o the_o truth_n albeit_o the_o number_n of_o the_o people_n assemble_v be_v great_a than_o of_o those_o bishop_n and_o elder_n hereupon_o it_o come_v that_o the_o decree_n of_o the_o council_n be_v after_o call_v the_o decree_n of_o the_o apostle_n &_o elder_n leave_v out_o the_o brethren_n which_o luke_n have_v first_o set_v down_o and_o upon_o the_o same_o ground_n in_o the_o decision_n of_o doubtful_a matter_n moses_n deut._n 17._o command_v that_o they_o shall_v have_v recourse_n unto_o the_o priest_n of_o the_o leviticall_a stock_n for_o that_o they_o bear_v the_o principal_a sway_n in_o those_o deliberation_n last_o the_o case_n of_o counsel_n be_v as_o it_o have_v be_v declare_v it_o be_v no_o marvel_n although_o augustine_n call_v a_o general_n council_n in_o some_o respect_n the_o consent_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n consider_v that_o not_o only_o those_o bishop_n and_o elder_n but_o some_o of_o the_o people_n be_v in_o all_o likelihood_n there_o assemble_v that_o which_o mr_n cartw._n say_v of_o the_o several_a and_o foreset_v deliberation_n agree_v with_o that_o which_o beza_n 15.12_o beza_n ann._n in_o act._n 15.12_o write_v of_o a_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o forego_v consultation_n the_o same_o be_v acknowledge_v by_o 277._o by_o s._n theo._n l._n 7._o p._n 277._o mr_n fenner_n also_o and_o hereunto_o accord_v that_o which_o gersom_a bucerus_n fit_o note_v concern_v the_o meaning_n of_o cyprian_a who_o write_v unto_o the_o elder_n &_o deacon_n that_o he_o have_v determine_v from_o the_o begin_n of_o his_o government_n to_o do_v nothing_o by_o his_o own_o judgement_n private_o 10._o private_o cyprian_a l._n 3._o ep_v 10._o without_o their_o counsel_n and_o without_o consent_n of_o the_o people_n bucerus_n explain_v his_o speech_n distinct_o on_o this_o manner_n 145._o manner_n dissent_n de_fw-fr gub._n eccles_n p._n 145._o behold_v first_o he_o mention_n the_o counsel_n which_o be_v to_o be_v borrow_v from_o the_o presbytery_n and_o then_o the_o consent_n whereby_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o presbytery_n be_v public_o approve_v of_o the_o people_n and_o this_o he_o apply_v also_o to_o the_o order_n of_o that_o judgement_n describe_v 1._o cor._n 5._o but_o concern_v the_o judgement_n of_o cyprian_a we_o have_v occasion_n to_o speak_v more_o hereafter_o i._o can._n v._o howsoever_o the_o church_n at_o antioch_n send_v some_o brethren_n with_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n unto_o the_o church_n at_o jerusalem_n notwithstanding_o and_o let_v it_o be_v well_o observe_v they_o do_v not_o this_o as_o be_v a_o dependent_a body_n and_o stand_v under_o another_o ecclesiastical_a authority_n out_o of_o themselves_o for_o as_o mr_n parker_n 314._o parker_n poli._n eccl_n l._n 3._o c._n 20._o p._n 301._o &_o 314._o excellent_o prove_v it_o the_o church_n at_o antioch_n at_o this_o time_n have_v absolute_a power_n in_o and_o for_o herself_o to_o have_v end_v the_o controversy_n and_o may_v have_v do_v it_o i_o say_v in_o respect_n of_o authority_n without_o acquaint_v therewith_o any_o other_o congregation_n at_o all_o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n another_o say_v 1._o say_v d._n whit._n conc._n qu._n 1._o c._n 1._o the_o church_n of_o antioch_n send_v not_o to_o jerusalem_n as_o be_v bind_v in_o duty_n thereto_o but_o in_o regard_n it_o be_v the_o chief_a place_n of_o religion_n therefore_o they_o make_v choice_n free_o of_o that_o congregation_n as_o know_v they_o to_o be_v best_o
at_o home_n and_o in_o matter_n of_o judgement_n see_v justice_n be_v to_o be_v do_v to_o one_o person_n as_o well_o as_o to_o a_o multitude_n jer._n 21.12_o &_o 22.3_o esa_n 58.6_o amos_n 5.12.24_o therefore_o if_o one_o person_n think_v himself_o oppress_v by_o a_o particular_a church_n the_o liberty_n of_o appeal_n be_v not_o to_o be_v deny_v he_o iii_o whereas_o they_o say_v hence_o our_o divine_n teach_v etc._n etc._n who_o do_v they_o mean_v by_o this_o phrase_n our_o divine_n do_v w._n b._n mean_v the_o arminian_n divine_v unto_o who_o he_o have_v decline_v and_o be_v become_v one_o of_o their_o disciple_n do_v mr_n c._n mean_v the_o divine_n of_o the_o separation_n the_o communion_n of_o other_o divine_n be_v renounce_v by_o they_o and_o these_o also_o be_v such_o that_o if_o a_o whole_a church_n together_o shall_v agree_v to_o refer_v their_o controversy_n unto_o the_o judgement_n of_o a_o synod_n they_o hold_v it_o to_o be_v a_o antichristian_a bondage_n do_v they_o mean_v mr_n parker_n who_o they_o allege_v immediate_o before_o and_o unto_o who_o they_o seem_v to_o have_v reference_n by_o that_o ambiguous_a quotation_n so_o set_v down_o in_o the_o margin_n as_o if_o it_o belong_v unto_o that_o which_o go_v before_o yet_o he_o be_v but_o one_o and_o none_o of_o they_o mr_n parker_n say_v indeed_o 338._o indeed_o pol._n eccl._n p._n 338._o there_o that_o this_o delegation_n and_o power_n of_o delegate_a be_v not_o in_o one_o bishop_n but_o in_o the_o church_n themselves_o he_o speak_v of_o that_o communication_n of_o church_n when_o some_o deal_n with_o other_o concern_v any_o ecclesiastical_a business_n by_o send_v their_o delegate_n or_o messenger_n unto_o they_o which_o power_n of_o send_v delegate_n in_o ecclesiastical_a affair_n he_o prove_v to_o be_v in_o the_o church_n itself_o and_o not_o in_o any_o one_o bishop_n in_o opposition_n unto_o the_o hierarchy_n who_o will_v have_v such_o business_n to_o be_v do_v by_o themselves_o and_o in_o their_o own_o name_n that_o which_o mr_n parker_n say_v be_v no_o way_n contrary_a unto_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o class_n and_o synod_n where_o the_o deputy_n and_o delegate_n of_o the_o church_n appear_v in_o the_o name_n of_o those_o several_a church_n from_o which_o they_o be_v send_v acknowledge_v the_o power_n of_o their_o delegation_n to_o be_v derive_v unto_o they_o from_o the_o same_o mr_n c._n and_o w._n b._n confound_v these_o two_o thing_n which_o be_v to_o be_v distinguish_v viz._n the_o deal_n in_o church_n affair_n in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o church_n which_o they_o only_o be_v allow_v to_o do_v who_o be_v choose_v of_o the_o church_n and_o design_v thereunto_o and_o the_o propound_v of_o personal_a grievance_n in_o case_n of_o appeal_n or_o complaint_n touch_v any_o thing_n that_o be_v amiss_o which_o as_o we_o say_v before_o be_v free_a unto_o every_o officer_n and_o member_n of_o the_o church_n when_o he_o can_v otherwise_o be_v satisfy_v he_o do_v it_o still_o in_o his_o own_o name_n now_o both_o these_o may_v be_v understand_v by_o that_o their_o phrase_n of_o bring_v thing_n from_o one_o congregation_n to_o another_o whereas_o mr_n parker_n mean_v only_o the_o former_a as_o be_v plain_a by_o his_o whole_a discourse_n in_o the_o place_n mention_v though_o mr_n c._n and_o w._n b._n will_v fain_o apply_v it_o unto_o the_o latter_a as_o appear_v by_o the_o inference_n which_o thence_o they_o make_v against_o i_o but_o for_o this_o their_o opinion_n they_o can_v show_v any_o one_o word_n of_o god_n nor_o any_o one_o divine_a whereas_o i_o have_v the_o 37.41_o the_o pag._n 37.41_o witness_n of_o both_o iv_o touch_v the_o accusation_n of_o i_o in_o particular_a that_o i_o have_v bring_v matter_n to_o the_o classis_fw-la without_o consent_n of_o the_o consistory_n or_o any_o one_o of_o they_o etc._n etc._n how_o earnest_n soever_o they_o be_v both_o in_o the_o line_n and_o in_o the_o margin_n to_o load_v i_o with_o double_a rebuke_n yet_o their_o own_o word_n fall_v upon_o they_o and_o while_o they_o seek_v to_o accuse_v they_o excuse_v i_o rather_o for_o if_o it_o be_v as_o they_o say_v than_o it_o appear_v that_o the_o matter_n i_o take_v in_o hand_n be_v such_o as_o may_v stand_v firm_a upon_o trial_n and_o examination_n by_o the_o deputy_n minister_n and_o elder_n of_o many_o church_n when_o as_o the_o contrary_a proceed_n be_v all_o undo_v and_o come_v to_o nothing_o and_o yet_o it_o be_v also_o false_a which_o they_o say_v of_o the_o church_n consent_n the_o matter_n be_v never_o propound_v unto_o the_o church_n nor_o their_o consent_n require_v or_o ask_v notwithstanding_o all_o that_o be_v do_v by_o some_o particular_a person_n the_o complaint_n and_o reproach_n with_o which_o they_o make_v up_o their_o 6_o exception_n be_v not_o worth_a the_o answer_n the_o testimony_n of_o the_o english_a church_n at_o franekford_n be_v afterward_o to_o be_v consider_v i._o can._n vii_o the_o thing_n then_o and_o there_o conclude_v be_v divine_a scripture_n impose_v upon_o all_o other_o church_n of_o the_o gentile_n although_o they_o have_v no_o delegate_n there_o v._o 22_o 28._o ch_z 16.4_o answ._n i._n the_o argument_n be_v not_o take_v from_o the_o infallibility_n of_o truth_n that_o be_v in_o the_o decree_n of_o this_o synod_n but_o from_o the_o order_n according_a to_o which_o they_o be_v make_v and_o the_o person_n determine_v the_o thing_n that_o be_v then_o and_o there_o conclude_v be_v such_o as_o do_v not_o all_o belong_v unto_o that_o particular_a congregation_n where_o the_o controversy_n be_v raise_v ii_o though_o the_o decree_n in_o that_o synod_n be_v ground_v upon_o the_o scripture_n as_o i_o grant_v 66._o grant_v pag._n 66._o before_o yet_o they_o can_v not_o be_v say_v to_o be_v divine_a scripture_n until_o they_o be_v by_o luke_n record_v among_o the_o act_n of_o the_o apostle_n neither_o be_v it_o manifest_v unto_o all_o that_o they_o be_v according_a to_o the_o scripture_n until_o it_o be_v conclude_v in_o the_o synod_n for_o else_o it_o have_v be_v in_o vain_a to_o have_v repair_v thither_o for_o this_o resolution_n iii_o he_o that_o will_v seem_v to_o say_v 69._o say_v pag._n 69._o before_o out_o of_o d._n whit._n that_o this_o assembly_n do_v bind_v only_o but_o in_o a_o special_a or_o particular_a meeting_n do_v now_o acknowledge_v that_o the_o thing_n then_o and_o there_o conclude_v do_v bind_v all_o other_o church_n of_o the_o gentile_n be_v impose_v upon_o they_o all_o to_o be_v observe_v by_o they_o it_o be_v true_a indeed_o that_o the_o decree_n of_o this_o synod_n be_v direct_v and_o deliver_v unto_o several_a church_n of_o the_o gentile_n where_o the_o observation_n of_o they_o be_v judge_v to_o be_v necessary_a not_o only_o because_o they_o be_v by_o infallible_a direction_n from_o the_o holy_a ghost_n which_o reason_n be_v employ_v by_o mr_n robinson_n from_o whence_o this_o and_o the_o substance_n of_o most_o of_o the_o former_a exception_n be_v borrow_v when_o he_o add_v 199._o add_v justif_n of_o sep._n p._n 199._o and_o so_o impose_v upon_o all_o other_o church_n etc._n etc._n but_o beside_o because_o the_o apostle_n be_v chief_a judge_n in_o this_o synod_n who_o as_o i_o have_v show_v often_o 72._o often_o pag._n 62_o 72._o before_o be_v as_o delegate_n from_o all_o the_o church_n in_o which_o respect_n as_o be_v also_o note_v 69._o note_v pag._n 69._o out_o of_o mr_n cartwright_n this_o synod_n may_v be_v account_v a_o general_n council_n i._o can._n viii_o it_o be_v observable_a how_o mr_n paget_n stumble_v at_o the_o same_o stone_n and_o misapply_v the_o very_a same_o place_n of_o scripture_n as_o the_o papist_n etc._n papist_n rhem._n on_o the_o place_n etc._n etc._n have_v do_v before_o for_o thus_o they_o write_v paul_n and_o barnabas_n condescend_v to_o refer_v the_o whole_a controversy_n &_o the_o determination_n thereof_o to_o the_o apostle_n and_o ancient_n at_o jerusalem_n that_o be_v to_o say_v to_o commit_v the_o matter_n to_o be_v try_v by_o the_o head_n and_o bishop_n and_o their_o determination_n in_o council_n and_o indeed_o such_o application_n of_o it_o better_o serve_v the_o turn_n of_o jesuit_n and_o priest_n that_o seek_v to_o set_v up_o the_o pope_n supremacy_n and_o a_o tyrannical_a hierarchy_n than_o those_o that_o desire_v to_o stand_v for_o the_o right_n and_o privilege_n which_o christ_n have_v give_v unto_o his_o church_n answ._n there_o be_v nothing_o say_v here_o but_o either_o it_o be_v refute_v by_o that_o which_o i_o have_v say_v already_o or_o else_o it_o be_v a_o mere_a beg_n of_o the_o question_n by_o avouch_v that_o which_o remain_v by_o he_o to_o be_v prove_v and_o which_o i_o be_o to_o disprove_v when_o i_o come_v to_o the_o examination_n of_o his_o argument_n though_o the_o papist_n abuse_n and_o
same_o be_v to_o be_v refer_v unto_o such_o judge_n who_o as_o be_v before_o note_v may_v either_o 244._o either_o s._n theol_n l._n 7._o p._n 243_o 244._o confirm_v or_o make_v void_a the_o election_n a_o plain_a acknowledgement_n of_o a_o lawful_a power_n out_o of_o a_o particular_a church_n to_o judge_v the_o cause_n thereof_o iv_o he_o omit_v that_o which_o mr_n f._n write_v in_o the_o description_n 246._o description_n ibid._n p._n 245_o 246._o both_o of_o the_o elder_n office_n in_o general_a and_o of_o the_o rule_v elder_n in_o particular_a where_o the_o warrant_n and_o authority_n of_o their_o office_n be_v derive_v from_o the_o elder_n in_o israel_n and_o from_o the_o government_n of_o the_o jewish_a church_n as_o appear_v in_o those_o testimony_n of_o scripture_n which_o he_o allege_v for_o proof_n thereof_o as_o namely_o these_o beside_z other_z leu._n 4.13_o 14_o 15.2_o kin._n 6.32_o jer._n 19.1_o ezek._n 8.1_o neh._n 8.5.8.10_o act._n 4.5_o &_o 6.12_o &_o 5.21_o now_o see_v he_o derive_v their_o office_n from_o that_o form_n of_o government_n which_o be_v confess_v not_o to_o have_v be_v a_o single_a uncompounded_a policy_n this_o be_v a_o evidence_n that_o he_o also_o do_v not_o hold_v jurisdiction_n to_o be_v limit_v unto_o a_o particular_a church_n v._o he_o omit_v that_o which_o mr_n f._n write_v in_o distinguish_v the_o presbytery_n or_o eldership_n of_o many_o church_n 281._o church_n ibid._n p._n 281._o into_o a_o synod_n or_o a_o general_n council_n and_o not_o to_o speak_v of_o other_o thing_n he_o omit_v that_o description_n of_o a_o general_n or_o universal_a council_n viz._n that_o it_o be_v a_o presbytery_n consist_v of_o the_o deputy_n of_o many_o synod_n to_o determine_v and_o compound_v those_o thing_n that_o may_v be_v profitable_a for_o the_o whole_a church_n or_o for_o the_o great_a part_n thereof_o the_o word_n which_o he_o use_v to_o express_v the_o authority_n exercise_v therein_o when_o he_o say_v ad_fw-la ea_fw-la statuenda_fw-la t.i._n to_o determine_v to_o make_v a_o statute_n or_o decree_n import_v more_o than_o a_o bare_a admonition_n or_o counsel_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v manifest_a from_o hence_o that_o mr_n f._n do_v not_o allow_v of_o this_o new_a discipline_n which_o deny_v the_o authority_n of_o synod_n ii_o his_o unfaithful_a translation_n of_o mr_n fenner_n be_v also_o to_o be_v observe_v in_o divers_a point_n i._o when_o speak_v of_o the_o eldership_n of_o one_o particular_a church_n 238._o church_n apol._n reply_n p._n 238._o he_o tell_v how_o mr_n f._n say_v it_o be_v proper_o call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o word_n of_o mr_n f._n be_v that_o it_o be_v 279._o be_v s._n theol_n l._n 7._o p._n 279._o proprio_fw-la nomine_fw-la sie_n dictum_fw-la so_o call_v with_o the_o proper_a name_n his_o meaning_n be_v that_o in_o common_a use_n of_o speech_n it_o have_v the_o proper_a name_n give_v unto_o it_o even_o as_o it_o come_v to_o pass_v oft_o time_n that_o a_o part_n be_v call_v by_o the_o proper_a name_n of_o the_o whole_a and_o one_o species_n or_o one_o sort_n receive_v the_o proper_a name_n of_o the_o whole_a kind_n as_o when_o in_o speak_v common_o of_o the_o minister_n and_o elder_n of_o a_o church_n the_o roll_a elder_n be_v so_o call_v with_o a_o proper_a name_n that_o belong_v to_o the_o whole_a kind_n see_v minister_n of_o the_o word_n be_v elder_n as_o well_o as_o they_o 1._o tim._n 5.17_o so_o when_o the_o roll_a elder_n be_v call_v with_o the_o proper_a name_n of_o governor_n 1._o cor._n 12.28_o though_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n be_v governor_n also_o as_o well_o as_o they_o and_o unless_o we_o thus_o understand_v mr_n fen._n there_o shall_v be_v no_o truth_n in_o his_o word_n for_o as_o he_o himself_o say_v 245._o say_v ibid._n p._n 245._o there_o be_v a_o synecdoche_n in_o the_o name_n of_o elder_n when_o it_o be_v give_v to_o ecclesiastical_a governor_n and_o therefore_o there_o must_v be_v a_o double_a improper_a or_o figurative_a speech_n a_o double_a synecdoche_n when_o the_o assembly_n of_o some_o officer_n in_o a_o particular_a church_n be_v call_v with_o the_o proper_a name_n of_o the_o eldership_n whereas_o but_o some_o of_o they_o be_v elderly_a or_o age_a man_n and_o whereas_o the_o assembly_n of_o such_o man_n in_o a_o synod_n be_v a_o eldership_n as_o well_o as_o the_o other_o ii_o it_o be_v a_o notable_a falsification_n of_o mr_n fenner_n testimony_n when_o as_o he_o distinguish_v the_o ecclesiastical_a eldership_n into_o the_o eldership_n of_o a_o particular_a church_n and_o into_o the_o eldership_n of_o many_o church_n and_o give_v beforehand_o in_o the_o first_o place_n a_o general_a definition_n of_o the_o eldership_n common_a to_o both_o those_o kind_n mr_n dau._n come_v and_o restrain_v that_o general_a definition_n to_o one_o kind_n and_o bring_v in_o mr_n f._n speak_v on_o this_o manner_n the_o eldership_n of_o the_o first_o sort_n he_o say_v be_v a_o compound_n office_n wherein_o all_o the_o elder_n do_v in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n administer_v all_o the_o business_n etc._n etc._n but_o this_o mr_n f._n have_v not_o say_v i_o desire_v the_o reader_n to_o look_v on_o the_o 276._o the_o s._n theol_n l._n 7._o p._n 276._o place_n as_o also_o on_o that_o which_o follow_v in_o his_o 279._o his_o pag._n 279._o transition_n from_o the_o general_a unto_o the_o species_n and_o several_a sort_n of_o the_o eldership_n and_o there_o to_o behold_v how_o gross_o mr_n d._n corrupt_v the_o word_n of_o mr_n f._n and_o abuse_v the_o reader_n and_o that_o in_o a_o point_n of_o main_a consequence_n touch_v our_o question_n for_o while_n mr_n f._n give_v the_o same_o general_a definition_n to_o the_o eldership_n of_o many_o church_n viz._n to_o class_n and_o synod_n which_o he_o give_v unto_o the_o eldership_n of_o a_o particular_a church_n thereby_o the_o same_o authority_n and_o jurisdiction_n which_o he_o give_v herein_o unto_o a_o particular_a church_n be_v also_o give_v by_o he_o unto_o a_o synod_n the_o eldership_n of_o many_o church_n and_o then_o be_v not_o synod_n for_o counsel_n only_o or_o admonition_n but_o they_o be_v to_o exercise_v a_o jurisdiction_n and_o power_n as_o well_o as_o particular_a church_n iii_o another_o instance_n of_o his_o unfaithful_a translation_n be_v to_o be_v observe_v from_o those_o word_n of_o mr_n f._n 278._o f._n ibid._n p._n 278._o postea_fw-la autem_fw-la auditis_fw-la &_o assentientibus_fw-la decernenda_fw-la &_o pro_fw-la decretis_fw-la ecclesiis_fw-la proponenda_fw-la sunt_fw-la which_o he_o translate_v thus_o 239._o thus_o apol._n reply_n p._n 239._o and_o afterward_o the_o opinion_n and_o assent_n of_o all_o be_v declare_v matter_n be_v to_o be_v conclude_v those_o last_o word_n shall_v have_v be_v translate_v thus_o matter_n be_v to_o be_v decree_v and_o to_o be_v propound_v unto_o the_o church_n for_o decree_n and_o be_v thus_o translate_v they_o import_v a_o act_n of_o authority_n and_o a_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n in_o make_v decree_n which_o be_v more_o than_o counsel_n or_o admonition_n especial_o when_o those_o matter_n so_o decree_v be_v propound_v unto_o the_o church_n for_o decree_n but_o the_o word_n of_o conclude_v which_o mr_n d._n use_v be_v ambiguous_a and_o be_v apply_v sometime_o to_o the_o reason_n of_o man_n either_o in_o private_a or_o public_a where_o there_o be_v no_o authority_n to_o give_v definitive_a sentence_n or_o to_o make_v decree_n for_o the_o church_n mr_n can_n himself_o though_o he_o condemn_v the_o class_n and_o synod_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n yet_o do_v he_o allow_v minister_n and_o brethren_n of_o divers_a church_n to_o come_v together_o 95._o together_o church_n plea_n p._n 95._o to_o confer_v of_o thing_n yea_o and_o to_o conclude_v if_o they_o can_v what_o they_o judge_v meet_v etc._n etc._n this_o use_n of_o the_o word_n conclude_v serve_v to_o elude_v and_o frustrate_v this_o pregnant_a testimony_n of_o their_o power_n iv_o another_o mistranslation_n be_v when_o in_o the_o same_o page_n those_o word_n of_o mr_n f._n leges_fw-la maximi_fw-la momenti_fw-la constituendae_fw-la be_v thus_o translate_v by_o he_o order_n also_o of_o the_o great_a moment_n to_o be_v make_v this_o i_o do_v therefore_o note_v the_o rather_o because_o mr_n d._n keep_v so_o great_a a_o quoil_n about_o the_o strict_a difference_n betwixt_o order_n and_o law_n and_o say_v 258._o say_v apol._n rep_v p._n 257._o 258._o that_o order_n &_o law_n be_v ill_o confound_v by_o i_o and_o be_v large_a in_o declare_v his_o mind_n therein_o his_o friend_n also_o that_o make_v the_o alphabetical_a table_n for_o he_o and_o prefix_v it_o before_o his_o book_n note_v this_o as_o a_o remarkable_a matter_n therein_o l._n therein_o letter_n l._n law_n and_o order_n differ_v now_o if_o these_o thing_n be_v so_o then_o have_v he_o do_v very_o ill_o
in_o confound_a law_n and_o order_n by_o translate_n the_o word_n leges_fw-la order_n when_o he_o shall_v have_v translate_v it_o law_n according_a to_o the_o right_n and_o proper_a signification_n thereof_o if_o he_o have_v dislike_v mr_n f._n for_o use_v the_o word_n leges_fw-la or_o law_n and_o will_v correct_v it_o by_o put_v in_o the_o word_n order_n this_o be_v more_o than_o a_o exact_a and_o faithful_a translator_n may_v do_v he_o shall_v rather_o have_v translate_v the_o word_n true_o according_a to_o the_o right_a signification_n and_o then_o have_v give_v warning_n to_o the_o reader_n touch_v the_o fault_n of_o mr_n fenner_n in_o the_o ill_a confound_v of_o law_n and_o order_n and_o put_v one_o for_o the_o other_o after_o these_o unfaithful_a omission_n and_o mistranslation_n mr_n dau._n have_v not_o be_v afraid_a to_o say_v confident_o of_o himself_o thus_o have_v i_o faithful_o translate_v the_o word_n of_o this_o eminent_a light_n in_o his_o time_n mr_n dudley_n fenner_n who_o be_v join_v with_o mr_n cartwright_n etc._n etc._n to_o his_o commendation_n of_o he_o i_o do_v willing_o assent_v he_o be_v indeed_o a_o eminent_a light_n and_o why_o then_o have_v mr_n dau._n go_v about_o to_o obscure_v his_o light_n by_o deprave_v his_o testimony_n and_o labour_v to_o put_v this_o bright-burning_a candle_n under_o a_o bushel_n that_o man_n shall_v not_o see_v his_o light_n whether_o he_o make_v strong_o for_o he_o or_o against_o i_o let_v other_o judge_n iii_o moreover_o after_o these_o omission_n and_o mistranslation_n come_v we_o to_o consider_v his_o miscollection_n from_o he_o which_o without_o any_o just_a deduction_n or_o inference_n upon_o the_o lame_a and_o imperfect_a recital_n of_o his_o word_n he_o thus_o propound_v ibiden_v propound_v ibiden_v the_o reader_n may_v see_v how_o he_o leave_v the_o whole_a power_n of_o jurisdiction_n in_o the_o particular_a church_n etc._n etc._n how_o untrue_a this_o be_v it_o may_v appear_v i._o by_o mr_n f._n his_o allege_v those_o 276._o those_o s._n theo._n l._n 7._o p._n 276._o scripture_n deut._n 17.9_o with_o 2._o chron._n 19.8_o 11._o matt._n 18.18_o 1._o tim._n 4.14_o to_o show_v what_o authority_n there_o be_v in_o a_o classis_fw-la or_o synod_n comprehend_v by_o he_o under_o that_o general_a definition_n of_o a_o presbytery_n as_o well_o as_o the_o eldership_n of_o a_o particular_a church_n thereby_o he_o confess_v that_o there_o be_v a_o power_n of_o judgement_n censure_n and_o jurisdiction_n in_o synod_n because_o those_o testimony_n of_o scripture_n speak_v of_o such_o jurisdiction_n and_o judgement_n of_o bind_v and_o lose_v of_o imposition_n of_o hand_n or_o ordination_n etc._n etc._n ii_o though_o mr_n f._n speak_v of_o excommunication_n and_o absolution_n from_o it_o say_v that_o they_o be_v to_o be_v do_v in_o the_o assembly_n by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n which_o last_o word_n mr_n d._n for_o special_a observation_n cause_v to_o be_v print_v in_o great_a capital_a letter_n yet_o this_o do_v not_o prove_v that_o he_o leave_v the_o whole_a power_n of_o jurisdiction_n in_o the_o particular_a church_n see_v in_o the_o same_o 277_o same_o pa._n 277_o place_n speak_v of_o ecclesiastical_a judgement_n administer_v by_o the_o synod_n or_o presbytery_n in_o decide_v of_o doubt_n he_o say_v also_o etsi_fw-la authoritas_fw-la communis_fw-la sit_fw-la ministris_fw-la tamen_fw-la &_o sententiam_fw-la dicendi_fw-la &_o eam_fw-la exponendi_fw-la maxima_fw-la facienda_fw-la potestas_fw-la that_o be_v though_o the_o authority_n be_v common_a yet_o the_o great_a power_n of_o give_v sentence_n and_o declare_v it_o be_v to_o be_v yield_v unto_o the_o minister_n therefore_o do_v he_o not_o leave_v the_o whole_a power_n of_o jurisdiction_n in_o a_o particular_a church_n iii_o mr_n f._n a_o little_a after_o again_o speak_v of_o ecclesiastical_a judgement_n and_o censure_n and_o still_o of_o administer_a they_o by_o the_o ecclesiastical_a senate_n or_o presbytery_n which_o contain_v the_o synod_n as_o well_o as_o a_o particular_a eldership_n he_o say_v of_o they_o ibiden_v they_o ibiden_v in_o quibus_fw-la per_fw-la omnes_fw-la ecclesias_fw-la summa_fw-la ecclesiastica_fw-la potestas_fw-la presbyterio_n demandata_fw-la est_fw-la that_o be_v in_o which_o throughout_o all_o church_n the_o high_a or_o chief_a ecclesiastical_a authority_n be_v commit_v to_o the_o presbytery_n and_o hereby_o also_o it_o appear_v that_o he_o do_v not_o leave_v the_o whole_a power_n of_o jurisdiction_n in_o a_o particular_a church_n but_o these_o passage_n mr_n d._n omit_v when_o he_o translate_v other_o part_n of_o the_o same_o period_n he_o think_v it_o not_o to_o be_v for_o his_o advantage_n to_o have_v his_o reader_n take_v knowledge_n of_o they_o iv_o whereas_o mr_n f._n require_v that_o in_o matter_n of_o great_a moment_n after_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o fore-consultation_n of_o the_o presbytery_n comprehend_v both_o classis_fw-la and_o particular_a eldership_n their_o counsel_n be_v tell_v unto_o the_o church_n that_o thing_n ordinary_o be_v thus_o perform_v in_o these_o reform_a church_n viz._n after_o that_o in_o the_o classical_a assembly_n of_o minister_n and_o elder_n it_o have_v be_v find_v just_a and_o requisite_a that_o any_o person_n shall_v be_v excommunicate_v or_o any_o minister_n call_v these_o censure_n and_o election_n be_v then_o first_o solemn_o propound_v unto_o the_o particular_a church_n who_o these_o thing_n special_o concern_v and_o so_o accomplish_v with_o their_o consent_n and_o not_o otherwise_o if_o the_o great_a part_n of_o the_o church_n dissent_n and_o allow_v not_o the_o excommunication_n or_o election_n then_o for_o the_o avoid_n of_o strife_n the_o matter_n be_v again_o refer_v ad_fw-la majorem_fw-la senatum_fw-la unto_o a_o great_a ecclesiastical_a senate_n classis_fw-la or_o synod_n to_o judge_v thereof_o and_o to_o compose_v the_o dissension_n v._o mr_n f._n in_o the_o same_o chapter_n 279._o chapter_n pag._n 278_o 279._o show_v from_o the_o scripture_n that_o in_o these_o presbyterial_a assembly_n there_o ought_v to_o be_v a_o mutual_a office_n perform_v in_o the_o same_o in_o special_a manner_n towards_o one_o another_o not_o only_o for_o counsel_n but_o also_o for_o the_o censure_n of_o such_o as_o be_v member_n of_o those_o assembly_n and_o this_o be_v also_o agreeable_a to_o the_o order_n prescribe_v both_o in_o the_o 43._o the_o kercken-ordeninge_a art_n 43._o nationall_n synod_n at_o dort_n and_o in_o divers_a other_o for_o the_o censure_n of_o such_o fault_n as_o be_v commit_v in_o those_o meeting_n or_o by_o contempt_n of_o the_o admonition_n of_o inferior_a assembly_n hereby_o also_o it_o appear_v that_o he_o allow_v a_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n in_o synod_n and_o class_n and_o do_v not_o limit_v all_o jurisdiction_n unto_o a_o particular_a church_n vi_o after_o mr_n f._n have_v speak_v in_o general_a both_o of_o the_o presbytery_n of_o one_o and_o of_o many_o church_n joint_o together_o than_o he_o come_v to_o speak_v of_o each_o of_o they_o several_o and_o there_o again_o speak_v of_o the_o presbytery_n of_o many_o church_n that_o be_v of_o class_n and_o synod_n he_o say_v 280._o say_v s._n theol._n l._n 7._o p._n 280._o hic_fw-la autem_fw-la leges_fw-la ecclesiasticae_fw-la condendae_fw-la sunt_fw-la here_o be_v ecclesiastical_a law_n to_o be_v make_v this_o be_v a_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n more_o than_o of_o admonition_n or_o counsel_n this_o mr_n d._n pass_v over_o also_o it_o be_v no_o policy_n for_o he_o to_o draw_v collection_n from_o such_o testimony_n vii_o that_o one_o testimony_n of_o scripture_n which_o mr_n f._n oft_o 281._o oft_o ibid._n p._n 280_o 281._o allege_v 2._o cor._n 8.19_o 23._o not_o to_o speak_v of_o other_o allege_v with_o it_o be_v a_o evidence_n of_o the_o authority_n of_o synod_n it_o be_v there_o specify_v that_o the_o brother_n who_o be_v choose_v to_o be_v a_o messenger_n of_o the_o church_n be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d elect_v by_o saffrage_n now_o this_o election_n be_v a_o act_n of_o authority_n exercise_v by_o sundry_a church_n in_o one_o business_n touch_v one_o person_n and_o hence_o it_o appear_v that_o a_o combination_n of_o church_n may_v exercise_v jurisdiction_n together_o touch_v such_o as_o be_v no_o peculiar_a member_n of_o one_o particular_a church_n and_o if_o such_o election_n may_v be_v make_v by_o many_o church_n then_o may_v censure_n be_v decree_v by_o many_o church_n together_o as_o occasion_n require_v last_o mr_n f._n have_v speak_v of_o the_o first_o part_n of_o ecclesiastical_a polity_n touch_v such_o as_o administer_v the_o same_o both_o by_o a_o simple_a and_o compound_a office_n in_o the_o presbytery_n both_o of_o one_o or_o more_o church_n in_o synod_n or_o general_n council_n he_o come_v at_o last_o to_o speak_v of_o the_o duty_n of_o the_o saint_n other_o member_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v not_o promote_v unto_o any_o ecclesiastical_a office_n and_o 282._o and_o
for_o counsel_n both_o because_o he_o allow_v a_o distinction_n of_o they_o in_o the_o synod_n which_o have_v the_o authority_n of_o a_o determine_a voice_n from_o they_o that_o do_v only_o dispute_v or_o consult_v and_o because_o he_o intimate_v a_o judicial_a proceed_n in_o the_o synod_n by_o mention_v party_n accuse_v their_o cite_n or_o call_v of_o they_o &_o the_o condemn_v of_o they_o which_o import_v a_o further_a matter_n then_o only_o of_o admonition_n or_o counsel_n whereas_o bellarmine_n accuse_v we_o that_o we_o allow_v any_o learned_a man_n though_o laic_n to_o have_v a_o determine_a voice_n let_v their_o office_n be_v what_o it_o will_v junius_n answer_v 4._o answer_v n._n 4._o these_o thing_n have_v none_o of_o we_o say_v or_o think_v as_o they_o be_v here_o lay_v down_o this_o be_v that_o which_o we_o say_v such_o be_v to_o be_v take_v into_o the_o synod_n which_o be_v furnish_v with_o gift_n and_o call_v which_o for_o gift_n be_v godly_a honest_a learned_a for_o their_o call_n which_o be_v either_o ordinary_o appoint_v to_o teach_v or_o extraordinary_o send_v for_o and_o bring_v by_o just_a authority_n now_o this_o necessity_n of_o a_o call_n which_o he_o so_o 1._o so_o see_v c._n 16._o n._n 10._o &_o 18._o &_o 20._o etc._n etc._n 17._o n._n 1._o often_o urge_v and_o require_v to_o be_v in_o the_o member_n of_o a_o synod_n do_v argue_v a_o special_a power_n and_o authority_n belong_v unto_o they_o by_o virtue_n whereof_o they_o may_v give_v sentence_n in_o the_o judgement_n of_o cause_n whereas_o to_o admonish_v or_o counsel_n require_v no_o more_o power_n than_o that_o which_o every_o christian_a have_v in_o another_o for_o his_o good_a as_o mr_n d._n himself_o confess_v to_o the_o same_o purpose_n junius_n show_v against_o bellarmine_n that_o the_o meaning_n of_o theodosius_n and_o valentinian_n be_v not_o to_o admit_v bishop_n only_o but_o that_o 13._o that_o ibid._n c_o 15._o n._n 13._o those_o only_a may_v hear_v examine_v and_o give_v sentence_n in_o a_o synod_n which_o be_v send_v from_o the_o church_n unto_o the_o synod_n be_v reckon_v up_o of_o the_o bishop_n according_a to_o their_o letter_n of_o public_a authority_n which_o they_o be_v wont_a to_o exhibit_v again_o he_o say_v 15._o say_v n._n 15._o they_o which_o be_v present_a without_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n of_o they_o some_o may_v only_o hear_v as_o the_o laic_n or_o common_a people_n some_o may_v be_v use_v in_o consultation_n as_o the_o learned_a man_n especial_o ecclesiastical_a person_n but_o they_o may_v not_o give_v definitive_a sentence_n and_o thus_o still_o by_o distinguish_v those_o that_o give_v counsel_n from_o those_o that_o give_v sentence_n in_o the_o synod_n it_o appear_v he_o acknowledge_v a_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n in_o synod_n and_o that_o they_o be_v not_o only_o for_o counsel_n so_o when_o bellarmine_n say_v it_o be_v a_o fault_n in_o the_o council_n of_o basill_n that_o presbyter_n or_o other_o learned_a man_n beside_o bishop_n be_v allow_v to_o have_v not_o only_o a_o consult_v voice_n but_o a_o decide_n suffrage_n &_o affirm_v that_o this_o be_v against_o the_o custom_n of_o all_o antiquity_n etc._n etc._n junius_n answer_v 19_o answer_v n._n 19_o this_o we_o deny_v for_o it_o be_v the_o first_o institution_n act._n 15._o and_o not_o only_o the_o manner_n and_o custom_n see_v therefore_o there_o be_v such_o a_o institution_n of_o the_o apostle_n &_o in_o their_o assembly_n what_o need_n be_v there_o to_o allege_v custom_n etc._n etc._n when_o bellarmine_n charge_v the_o protestant_n as_o hold_v that_o a_o synod_n be_v nothing_o but_o a_o inquisition_n and_o that_o christ_n alone_o and_o his_o write_a word_n have_v a_o determine_a voice_n junius_n say_v â—_o say_v ibid._n in_o c._n 18._o n._n â—_o it_o be_v false_a for_o synod_n have_v both_o a_o inquisition_n of_o that_o which_o be_v true_a just_a holy_a by_o religious_a communication_n and_o also_o a_o ministerial_a give_v of_o sentence_n though_o he_o show_v there_o and_o in_o many_o annotation_n follow_v that_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a for_o christian_n to_o obey_v they_o further_o than_o they_o agree_v with_o the_o scripture_n that_o their_o sentence_n of_o itself_o be_v but_o a_o persuasion_n and_o not_o a_o constraint_n a_o ministerial_a judgement_n not_o of_o absolute_a authority_n of_o itself_o etc._n etc._n yet_o he_o 3._o he_o n._n 3._o grant_v the_o lord_n have_v command_v that_o we_o shall_v obey_v the_o sentence_n of_o a_o lawful_a synod_n assemble_v together_o in_o his_o name_n etc._n etc._n he_o say_v 14._o say_v n._n 14._o synod_n have_v true_a judgement_n so_o far_o as_o they_o be_v of_o god_n according_a to_o the_o table_n of_o his_o truth_n and_o commandment_n of_o themselves_o they_o be_v not_o judgement_n but_o declaration_n publication_n and_o ministerial_a pronouncing_n of_o the_o truth_n and_o judgement_n of_o god_n and_o more_o than_o this_o can_v be_v yield_v to_o any_o ecclesiastical_a judicatory_a whatsoever_o herein_o he_o full_o grant_v as_o much_o jurisdiction_n to_o synod_n as_o belong_v to_o any_o particular_a congregation_n or_o eldership_n either_o apart_o or_o joint_o together_o when_o bellarmine_n blame_v the_o protestant_n for_o their_o exception_n against_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n junius_n answer_v 1._o answer_v ibid._n in_o c._n 21._o n._n 1._o it_o be_v the_o ordinary_a way_n of_o right_n in_o every_o appeal_n that_o the_o judgement_n of_o synod_n and_o the_o execution_n of_o their_o sentence_n be_v suspend_v and_o stay_v so_o long_o until_o the_o matter_n be_v again_o examine_v in_o another_o more_o free_a or_o great_a assembly_n etc._n etc._n this_o answer_n have_v be_v needle_n and_o impertinent_a unless_o synod_n have_v more_o power_n than_o of_o counsel_n and_o admonition_n only_o he_o say_v 7._o say_v n._n 7._o certain_o in_o every_o just_a synod_n heretic_n be_v cite_v hear_v present_a or_o wilful_o hide_v themselves_o have_v be_v condemn_v etc._n etc._n when_o bellarm._n object_n that_o protestant_n will_v have_v nothing_o to_o be_v determine_v in_o synod_n and_o so_o strife_n to_o be_v never_o end_v junius_n answer_v 23._o answer_v n._n 23._o that_o he_o pervert_v their_o meaning_n and_o refer_v we_o to_o his_o preface_n nota_fw-la 40._o where_o the_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n of_o synod_n be_v plain_o avouch_v iunius_n proceed_v to_o the_o examination_n of_o his_o second_o book_n touch_v synod_n where_o bellarmine_n repeat_v that_o synod_n of_o bishop_n may_v judge_v all_o controversy_n both_o of_o faith_n and_o manner_n junius_n answer_v 1._o answer_v animadv_n in_o bell._n l._n 2._o deconcl_n c._n 1._o n._n 1._o we_o have_v grant_v it_o of_o those_o that_o be_v lawful_a synod_n when_o bellarmine_n have_v say_v that_o nothing_o be_v great_a than_o a_o lawful_a and_o approve_a general_n council_n junius_n answer_v 2._o answer_v ibid._n c._n 4._o n._n 2._o it_o be_v false_a for_o christ_n be_v great_a and_o the_o scripture_n be_v great_a see_v christ_n and_o the_o scripture_n be_v great_a of_o themselves_o the_o church_n be_v great_a by_o they_o etc._n etc._n but_o this_o answer_n have_v be_v insufficient_a &_o not_o direct_a enough_o if_o my_o opposite_n opinion_n be_v true_a for_o then_o according_a to_o their_o opinion_n he_o may_v more_o fit_o have_v answer_v that_o the_o authority_n of_o a_o particular_a congregation_n be_v great_a than_o the_o authority_n of_o a_o general_n synod_n because_o though_o the_o counsel_n and_o advise_v of_o the_o synod_n be_v more_o to_o be_v reverence_v in_o respect_n of_o many_o excellent_o learn_v and_o godly_a man_n from_o many_o church_n that_o be_v in_o it_o yet_o see_v ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n be_v limit_v to_o a_o particular_a congregation_n therefore_o the_o same_o be_v great_a in_o the_o power_n of_o censure_v and_o in_o the_o use_n of_o the_o key_n for_o bind_v and_o lose_v of_o impenitent_a sinner_n see_v synod_n have_v no_o jurisdiction_n at_o all_o over_o any_o other_o church_n again_o when_o bellarmine_n set_v down_o this_o insolent_a proposition_n that_o the_o pope_n can_v commit_v neither_o unto_o a_o synod_n nor_o to_o any_o man_n the_o coactive_a judgement_n over_o himself_o but_o only_o the_o discretive_a junius_n answer_v 1._o answer_v ibid._n in_o c._n 18._o n._n 1._o the_o proposition_n be_v most_o true_a he_o can_v commit_v because_o god_n have_v commit_v it_o to_o the_o synod_n and_o lawful_a council_n wherefore_o we_o say_v on_o the_o contrary_a neither_o can_v he_o commit_v it_o for_o if_o he_o be_v the_o servant_n of_o god_n god_n have_v commit_v the_o judgement_n concern_v he_o unto_o his_o church_n neither_o can_v he_o reject_v it_o but_o though_o he_o be_v unwilling_a yet_o both_o the_o church_n be_v bind_v to_o judge_v concern_v he_o and_o he_o to_o undergo_v the_o judgement_n thereof_o discretive_a and_o coactive_a howsoever_o it_o
deed_n ambrose_n be_v ill_o join_v with_o austin_n see_v in_o the_o place_n allege_v he_o have_v not_o the_o same_o but_o another_o more_o large_a definition_n contain_v under_o it_o original_a sin_n also_o when_o he_o say_v 8._o say_v tom._n 4._o lib._n de_fw-fr paradiso_n c._n 8._o what_o be_v sin_n but_o a_o prevarication_n against_o the_o law_n of_o god_n etc._n etc._n this_o prevarication_n be_v as_o well_o in_o the_o nature_n and_o disposition_n of_o man_n as_o in_o actual_a sin_n the_o judgement_n of_o aquinas_n and_o such_o popish_a schoolman_n be_v not_o to_o be_v much_o esteem_v in_o this_o point_n while_o they_o teach_v that_o original_a corruption_n in_o those_o that_o be_v baptize_v &_o justify_v be_v not_o proper_o any_o sin_n at_o all_o &_o therefore_o be_v reject_v herein_o of_o all_o orthodox_n divine_v argum_fw-la vi_o if_o the_o apostle_n give_v commandment_n unto_o the_o eldership_n of_o ephesus_n for_o the_o whole_a administration_n of_o all_o ordinance_n in_o that_o church_n then_o may_v the_o eldership_n of_o every_o particular_a congregation_n administer_v among_o themselves_o all_o god_n ordinance_n but_o the_o first_o be_v true_a therefore_o the_o second_o the_o major_n be_v prove_v two_o way_n 1._o by_o scripture_n act._n 20._o vers_fw-la 17.28.2_o by_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o learned_a whitaker_n etc._n etc._n the_o minor_a be_v undeniable_a for_o as_o mr_n brightman_n say_v there_o be_v one_o form_n etc._n etc._n answ._n i._n mr_n can_v hear_v again_o wander_v from_o the_o question_n &_o go_v about_o to_o prove_v that_o which_o i_o never_o deny_v viz._n that_o the_o eldership_n of_o every_o particular_a church_n may_v administer_v all_o god_n ordinance_n among_o themselves_o even_o those_o solemn_a act_n of_o communion_n with_o other_o church_n both_o in_o thing_n spiritual_a and_o corporal_a be_v the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n be_v to_o be_v perform_v by_o the_o direction_n of_o the_o eldership_n this_o hinder_v not_o but_o that_o any_o eldership_n or_o church_n itself_o be_v find_v in_o error_n or_o other_o unfaithful_a deal_n may_v be_v subject_a to_o the_o censure_n of_o many_o church_n unite_v in_o their_o synod_n ii_o if_o it_o belong_v to_o the_o eldership_n of_o every_o particular_a church_n to_o administer_v all_o god_n ordinance_n then_o how_o can_v the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n be_v due_o administer_v in_o that_o church_n of_o the_o brownist_n whereof_o mr_n can_v be_v bishop_n alone_o where_o there_o be_v no_o eldership_n where_o there_o be_v neither_o teach_n nor_o rule_v elder_a beside_o himself_o see_v there_o be_v no_o ruler_n in_o his_o own_o company_n but_o himself_o &_o he_o deny_v all_o other_o rule_n over_o he_o by_o synod_n do_v he_o not_o make_v himself_o a_o kind_n of_o ecclesiastical_a monarch_n or_o sole_a governor_n of_o the_o separation_n iii_o mr_n can_v do_v here_o again_o bewray_v his_o notorious_a ignorance_n of_o logic_n whereof_o he_o profess_v so_o great_a skill_n in_o the_o frame_n of_o so_o many_o syllogism_n and_o yet_o like_o the_o child_n that_o know_v not_o the_o right_a hand_n from_o the_o left_a can_v discern_v betwixt_o the_o major_a and_o the_o minor_a of_o his_o syllogism_n this_o appear_v here_o when_o he_o call_v that_o his_o major_n which_o he_o prove_v by_o act._n 20.17.28_o and_o by_o the_o testimony_n of_o d._n whitaker_n viz._n that_o the_o apostle_n give_v commandment_n unto_o the_o eldership_n of_o ephesus_n etc._n etc._n which_o be_v his_o assumption_n or_o minor_a and_o again_o by_o call_v that_o his_o minor_a for_o which_o he_o cite_v mr_n brightman_n and_o other_o treatise_n which_o serve_v to_o prove_v one_o form_n of_o church-government_n common_a to_o all_o church_n as_o any_o logician_n that_o look_v upon_o his_o argument_n may_v easy_o discern_v when_o he_o propound_v simple_a or_o categovicall_a syllogism_n than_o be_v he_o not_o so_o deceyve_v in_o his_o guess_v at_o a_o major_a or_o minor_n but_o so_o oft_o as_o he_o use_v any_o hypotheticall_a syllogism_n so_o oft_o he_o be_v as_o a_o man_n wander_v in_o a_o wood_n or_o wilderness_n and_o the_o reason_n hereof_o seem_v to_o be_v this_o whereas_o in_o a_o hypotheticall_a syllogism_n the_o antecedent_n of_o the_o major_n be_v assume_v usual_o in_o the_o minor_a and_o that_o which_o be_v but_o a_o part_n of_o the_o major_n come_v to_o be_v the_o whole_a minor_n he_o mistake_v a_o part_n for_o the_o whole_a do_v therefore_o call_v that_o which_o be_v only_o the_o antecedent_n of_o the_o major_n by_o the_o name_n of_o the_o whole_a major_a proposition_n when_o as_o indeed_o it_o be_v the_o whole_a minor_a proposition_n and_o so_o to_o be_v call_v have_v not_o w._n best_o be_v a_o simplician_n as_o the_o brownist_n note_v he_o to_o be_v he_o will_v never_o have_v place_v his_o confidence_n in_o the_o skill_n of_o this_o simple_a logician_n nor_o rest_v under_o the_o shadow_n of_o his_o syllogism_n argum_fw-la vii_o 72._o vii_o churc_n plea._n p._n 72._o 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elder_n which_o represent_v the_o person_n of_o the_o church_n christ_n fit_o say_v that_o those_o which_o have_v offend_v shall_v then_o at_o length_n be_v bring_v public_o to_o the_o church_n if_o either_o proud_o they_o contemn_v or_o scurrilous_o reject_v private_a admonition_n we_o know_v that_o from_o the_o time_n that_o the_o jew_n return_v out_o of_o the_o captivity_n of_o babylon_n the_o censure_n of_o manner_n and_o of_o doctrine_n be_v commit_v to_o that_o choose_a council_n which_o they_o call_v sanhedrin_n and_o in_o greek_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d this_o government_n be_v lawful_a &_o approve_v of_o god_n and_o this_o be_v the_o bridle_n to_o keep_v in_o order_n the_o froward_a &_o untractable_a thus_o have_v he_o full_o express_v himself_o that_o this_o commandment_n of_o christ_n mat._n 18._o be_v no_o new_a rule_n but_o take_v from_o the_o ecclesiastical_a policy_n of_o the_o jew_n beza_n in_o like_a manner_n confirm_v this_o interpretation_n say_v 18.17_o say_v 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from_o the_o ecclesiastical_a policy_n of_o the_o jew_n before_o christ_n in_o the_o time_n of_o david_n ezekias_n josias_n &_o other_o godly_a prince_n by_o which_o it_o appear_v that_o he_o hold_v this_o part_n of_o church-government_n not_o to_o be_v a_o new_a ordinance_n but_o a_o practice_n common_a both_o to_o jewish_a &_o to_o christian_a church_n and_o beside_o from_o this_o very_a place_n mat._n 18._o he_o draw_v a_o double_a warrant_n for_o synod_n first_o from_o the_o commandment_n give_v to_o peter_n as_o well_o as_o to_o other_o to_o tell_v the_o church_n vers_fw-la 17._o from_o thence_o he_o argue_v against_o the_o papist_n that_o the_o pope_n may_v be_v judge_v of_o a_o council_n 170._o council_n ibid._n the_o council_n qu._n 5._o c._n 3._o p._n 169._o 170._o if_o say_v he_o every_o particular_a church_n have_v great_a authority_n in_o judgement_n than_o peter_n or_o any_o particular_a man_n then_o much_o more_o the_o universal_a church_n which_o be_v represent_v in_o 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in_o lib._n 1._o c._n 3._o promise_n make_v unto_o ecclesiastical_a assembly_n to_o be_v in_o the_o midst_n of_o they_o vers_n 20._o while_o he_o allow_v that_o promise_n allege_v by_o other_o to_o be_v a_o just_a ground_n thereof_o though_o he_o add_v other_o warrant_n also_o and_o further_o speak_v of_o the_o council_n or_o ecclesiastical_a senate_n he_o show_v what_o reference_n it_o have_v unto_o the_o polity_n or_o government_n of_o the_o jewish_a synagogue_n he_o say_v that_o which_o 3._o which_o ecclesiast_fw-la l._n 2._o c._n 3._o the_o church_n of_o the_o jew_n call_v the_o synagogue_n that_o christ_n in_o like_a manner_n call_v the_o church_n in_o that_o place_n mat._n 18._o for_o as_o the_o synagogue_n or_o ecclesiastical_a counsel_n be_v a_o certain_a epitome_n of_o the_o church_n so_o also_o be_v the_o presbytery_n mr_n cartwright_n above_o many_o other_o be_v very_o pregnant_a in_o give_v plain_a testimony_n that_o this_o rule_n of_o discipline_n be_v no_o new_a 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respect_n of_o the_o censure_n say_v 183._o say_v ibid._n p._n 183._o now_o that_o this_o charge_n of_o excommunication_n belong_v not_o unto_o one_o or_o to_o the_o minister_n but_o chief_o to_o the_o eldership_n &_o pastor_n it_o appear_v by_o that_o which_o the_o author_n of_o the_o admonition_n allege_v out_o of_o s._n matth._n c._n 18.17_o which_o place_n i_o have_v prove_v before_o to_o be_v necessary_o understand_v of_o the_o elder_n of_o the_o church_n and_o further_o in_o the_o same_o place_n it_o may_v be_v the_o clearly_o understand_v that_o the_o presbytery_n or_o eldership_n have_v the_o chief_a stroke_n in_o this_o excommunication_n if_o it_o be_v observe_v that_o this_o be_v the_o polity_n or_o discipline_n of_o the_o jew_n and_o of_o the_o synagogue_n from_o whence_o our_o saviour_n christ_n take_v this_o and_o translate_v it_o unto_o
this_o church_n that_o when_o any_o man_n have_v do_v any_o thing_n that_o they_o hold_v for_o a_o fault_n that_o then_o the_o same_o be_v punish_v &_o censure_v by_o the_o elder_n of_o the_o church_n according_a to_o the_o quality_n of_o the_o fault_n as_o it_o may_v appear_v in_o s._n matthew_n ch_z 5.22_o etc._n etc._n a_o little_a after_o he_o add_v and_o if_o the_o fault_n be_v judge_v very_o great_a than_o the_o sentence_n of_o excommunication_n be_v award_v by_o the_o same_o elder_n as_o appear_v in_o s._n john_n i_o 9.22_o and_o this_o be_v the_o cause_n why_o our_o saviour_n christ_n speak_v so_o short_o of_o this_o matter_n in_o the_o 18._o of_o s._n matthew_n without_o note_v the_o circumstance_n more_o at_o large_a for_o that_o he_o speak_v of_o a_o thing_n which_o be_v well_o know_v and_o use_v among_o the_o jew_n who_o he_o speak_v unto_o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n he_o write_v in_o his_o answer_n to_o the_o rhemist_n where_o speak_v of_o the_o governor_n of_o the_o 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here_o say_v he_o 187._o he_o first_o reply_v to_o d._n whitg_n p._n 187._o that_o both_o in_o this_o part_n of_o the_o discipline_n viz._n touch_v excommunication_n and_o also_o in_o all_o other_o part_n of_o it_o as_o i_o have_v show_v as_o in_o hard_a and_o difficulter_v cause_n thing_n be_v refer_v unto_o the_o synod_n provincial_n nationall_n or_o general_n as_o the_o case_n require_v so_o if_o the_o elder_n of_o any_o church_n shall_v determine_v any_o thing_n contrary_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n or_o inconvenient_o in_o any_o matter_n that_o fall_v into_o their_o determination_n the_o party_n which_o be_v greeve_v may_v have_v recourse_n for_o remedy_n unto_o the_o elder_n and_o pastor_n of_o divers_a church_n that_o be_v to_o say_v unto_o synod_n of_o shire_n or_o diocese_n or_o province_n or_o nation_n of_o as_o great_a or_o of_o as_o small_a compass_n as_o shall_v be_v think_v convenient_a by_o the_o church_n according_a to_o the_o difficulty_n or_o weight_n of_o the_o 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87._o edit_n 1617._o in_o mat._n 18._o our_o saviour_n call_v they_o by_o the_o name_n of_o the_o church_n because_o they_o rule_v and_o govern_v church_n matter_n under_o the_o name_n and_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n so_o likewise_o the_o name_n of_o all_o the_o assembly_n by_o moses_n be_v give_v to_o the_o elder_n of_o the_o jew_n that_o be_v to_o say_v unto_o certain_a choose_a &_o pick_v out_o man_n who_o be_v assign_v by_o all_o the_o congregation_n to_o the_o government_n of_o the_o affair_n thus_o plain_o it_o be_v take_v in_o numb_a 8._o where_o the_o lord_n appoint_v the_o congregation_n shall_v lay_v hand_n upon_o the_o levite_n but_o i_o think_v no_o man_n will_v say_v this_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v of_o all_o the_o congregation_n that_o so_o many_o thousand_o shall_v lay_v their_o hand_n upon_o they_o as_o be_v rehearse_v then_o to_o have_v be_v in_o the_o host_n of_o israel_n but_o the_o elder_n and_o prince_n only_o as_o aben_n ezra_n do_v right_o interpret_v 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etc._n l._n 7._o c._n 26_o 28._o etc._n etc._n whereby_o it_o appear_v that_o he_o allow_v unto_o synod_n not_o only_a counsel_n or_o admonition_n but_o a_o power_n of_o exercise_v ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n &_o censure_n those_o counsel_n mention_v and_o point_a at_o by_o he_o for_o instance_n of_o this_o chiefty_a of_o judgement_n be_v such_o as_o do_v not_o only_o admonish_v but_o also_o determine_v and_o judge_v of_o cause_n the_o synod_n of_o etc._n of_o barthol_n carranza_n summa_fw-la council_n p._n â—3_n etc._n etc._n ancyra_n in_o galatia_n make_v most_o severe_a ecclesiastical_a law_n for_o the_o exclude_v of_o such_o as_o do_v fall_v in_o time_n of_o persecution_n the_o synod_n of_o 463_o of_o magdeb._n cent._n 4._o c._n 3._o col_fw-fr 111._o etc._n etc._n 6._o col_fw-fr 463_o gangris_n in_o paphlagonia_n exercise_v ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n in_o depose_v eustathius_n bishop_n of_o sebastia_n for_o his_o error_n and_o the_o like_a may_v be_v note_v for_o the_o rest_n whatsoever_o particular_a error_n be_v in_o any_o of_o these_o yet_o the_o authority_n and_o jurisdiction_n itself_o be_v approve_v of_o he_o as_o proceed_n from_o the_o wisdom_n of_o god_n declare_v in_o this_o place_n act._n 15._o d._n whitaker_n in_o his_o disputation_n against_o bellarmine_n touch_v counsel_n lay_v down_o this_o text_n act._n 15.6_o for_o a_o ground_n of_o that_o which_o he_o take_v occasion_n to_o entreat_v of_o and_o etc._n and_o de_fw-fr council_n qu._n 1._o c._n 1._o p_o 1_o 3_o 4_o etc._n etc._n often_o repeat_v that_o text_n apply_v it_o to_o each_o of_o the_o question_n which_o he_o discuss_v and_o whereas_o our_o opposite_n do_v grant_v a_o lawful_a use_n of_o synod_n for_o counsel_n but_o not_o to_o judge_v nor_o to_o give_v judicial_a sentence_n for_o the_o decide_n of_o cause_n d._n whitak_n describe_v the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n betwixt_o we_o and_o the_o papist_n touch_v the_o person_n that_o be_v to_o be_v call_v to_o a_o synod_n show_v that_o 79._o that_o ibid._n qu._n 3._o c._n 1._o p._n 79._o the_o papist_n will_v have_v only_o the_o bishop_n or_o great_a prelate_n to_o be_v allow_v for_o judge_n and_o the_o presbyter_n or_o inferior_a clergy_n to_o be_v only_a inquisitor_n disputer_n or_o consulter_n to_o give_v counsel_n but_o not_o to_o have_v suffrage_n in_o give_v definitive_a sentence_n this_o be_v the_o opinion_n of_o the_o 15._o the_o bellar._n tom._n 2._o contr._n 1._o de_fw-fr council_n l._n 1._o c._n 15._o romish_a church_n now_o d._n whit._n in_o the_o refutation_n of_o the_o papist_n do_v as_o well_o refute_v the_o brownist_n and_o other_o opposite_n while_o he_o prove_v 3._o prove_v de_fw-fr council_n qu._n 3._o c._n 3._o that_o all_o who_o have_v a_o lawful_a deputation_n and_o calling_n be_v to_o be_v allow_v for_o judge_n and_o not_o for_o counsellor_n only_o and_o that_o their_o suffrage_n be_v not_o only_o for_o consultation_n but_o for_o decision_n as_o be_v hereafter_o show_v more_o at_o large_a observe_v only_o at_o this_o time_n that_o the_o first_o argument_n in_o that_o dispute_n be_v take_v from_o this_o very_a place_n act._n 15._o g._n bucerus_n plead_v from_o this_o same_o ground_n of_o scripture_n and_o write_v 65._o write_v dissert_n de_fw-fr gub._n ecc._n p._n 65._o that_o not_o only_o several_a particular_a church_n have_v their_o proper_a distinct_a presbytery_n but_o that_o the_o history_n of_o the_o apostle_n witness_v that_o when_o great_a controversy_n do_v arise_v which_o can_v not_o be_v end_v in_o lesser_a college_n then_o more_o church_n under_o the_o new_a testament_n do_v run_v unto_o a_o general_n synod_n act._n 15._o and_o what_o power_n they_o be_v wont_a to_o exercise_v therein_o he_o show_v by_o a_o distinction_n of_o person_n come_v to_o the_o synod_n as_o d._n whit._n refute_v the_o popish_a distinction_n of_o great_a and_o lesser_a clergy_n show_v that_o there_o be_v a_o right_a and_o power_n of_o suffrage_n &_o judgement_n in_o the_o synod_n so_o bucerus_n etc._n bucerus_n ibid._n p._n 107._o 108._o etc._n etc._n confirm_v the_o distinction_n of_o junius_n viz._n that_o some_o person_n come_v to_o the_o synod_n as_o delegate_n send_v from_o the_o church_n which_o therefore_o do_v give_v definitive_a sentence_n of_o matter_n propound_v that_o other_o come_v without_o such_o deputation_n and_o commission_n may_v give_v their_o advice_n and_o counsel_v but_o without_o suffrage_n do_v hereby_o acknowledge_v a_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n in_o the_o synod_n by_o those_o that_o be_v peculiar_o call_v to_o be_v judge_n therein_o zepperus_n etc._n zepperus_n polit._n eccl._n l._n 3._o c._n 8._o de_fw-fr syn._n p._n 713._o 714._o 715._o etc._n etc._n allege_v act._n 15._o for_o a_o pattern_n of_o synod_n declare_v that_o after_o the_o apostle_n the_o primitive_a church_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n be_v most_o studious_a of_o this_o consociation_n or_o combination_n in_o synod_n do_v not_o only_o communicate_v by_o letter_n but_o meet_v together_o in_o nationall_n or_o general_n counsel_n do_v hear_v the_o cause_n of_o heretic_n &_o other_o that_o appear_v before_o they_o &_o so_o convince_v condemn_a and_o excommunicate_v they_o &_o send_v their_o decree_n unto_o all_o church_n with_o the_o name_n &_o heresy_n of_o those_o that_o be_v excommunicate_a etc._n etc._n thus_o do_v he_o acknowledge_v the_o right_n of_o synod_n not_o only_o for_o counsel_n &_o admonition_n but_o also_o for_o jurisdiction_n in_o censure_v piscator_fw-la 361-364_a piscator_fw-la thes_n theolog._n vol._n 1._o loc._n 23._o p._n 361-364_a writing_n of_o counsel_n and_o synod_n and_o of_o the_o seven_o question_n concern_v they_o do_v seven_o time_n allege_v this_o place_n act._n 15._o for_o a_o ground_n of_o direction_n in_o each_o of_o they_o and_o for_o the_o authority_n of_o synod_n he_o plain_o express_v his_o meaning_n when_o speak_v of_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n in_o general_a he_o say_v 63._o say_v thes_n 62_o 63._o it_o consist_v chief_o in_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n and_o again_o distinguish_v this_o jurisdiction_n into_o two_o part_n he_o say_v that_o the_o one_o part_n consist_v in_o the_o power_n of_o make_v law_n &_o potissimum_fw-la spectatur_fw-la in_o conciliis_fw-la that_o be_v it_o be_v chief_o see_v in_o synod_n bucanus_n 27._o bucanus_n loc._n con_n loc._n 43._o qu._n 21_o 22_o 25_o 27._o write_v much_o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n and_o asscribe_v unto_o synod_n authority_n of_o make_v law_n of_o decide_v controversy_n and_o this_o from_o the_o example_n of_o that_o synod_n act._n 15._o often_o mention_v by_o he_o mr_n fenner_n 278-281_a fenner_n s._n theol._n l._n 7._o c._n 7._o p._n 278-281_a brief_o and_o methodical_o describe_v the_o nature_n of_o synod_n the_o kind_n the_o use_n &_o authority_n of_o they_o do_v derive_v their_o authority_n from_o this_o ground_n act._n 15._o which_o even_o in_o that_o short_a description_n be_v more_o than_o ten_o time_n allege_v by_o he_o many_o other_o such_o testimony_n may_v be_v produce_v to_o show_v the_o consent_n of_o judicious_a and_o learned_a divine_n in_o this_o point_n of_o which_o somewhat_o more_o be_v to_o be_v say_v when_o i_o come_v to_o give_v answer_n touch_v that_o multitude_n of_o author_n which_o mr_n can_v allege_v against_o i_o let_v we_o now_o hear_v what_o my_o opposite_n say_v concern_v this_o example_n mr_n dau._n his_o exception_n touch_v act._n 15._o answer_v i._o dav_n 255._o dav_n apol_n reply_n p._n 254._o 255._o this_o text_n act._n 15._o be_v allege_v by_o bellarmine_n to_o prove_v the_o bind_a force_n of_o the_o decree_n of_o council_n and_o by_o the_o answerer_n to_o show_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o classis_fw-la whereunto_o junius_n give_v 2_o answer_n also_o 1._o non_fw-la sequitur_fw-la ex_fw-la particulari_fw-la si_fw-la custodienda_fw-la fuerint_fw-la decreta_fw-la concilii_fw-la apostolici_fw-la ergo_fw-la &_o omnium_fw-la seruari_fw-la oportere_fw-la it_o
ibid._n p._n 242_o with_o p._n 282._o set_v this_o down_o for_o a_o common_a law_n unto_o they_o all_o that_o they_o be_v subject_a in_o all_o those_o thing_n aforesaid_a and_o further_o the_o same_o according_a to_o their_o power_n with_o their_o gift_n labour_n and_o whatsoever_o way_n they_o be_v able_a hebr._n 13.17_o this_o peculiar_a bond_n of_o special_a obedience_n and_o submission_n unto_o such_o officer_n even_o in_o synod_n as_o well_o as_o in_o other_o ordinance_n be_v a_o argument_n that_o he_o think_v they_o to_o have_v special_a authority_n more_o than_o of_o admonition_n &_o counsel_n the_o judgement_n of_o mr_n fenner_n this_o worthy_a writer_n be_v thus_o clear_v and_o vindicate_v from_o those_o unfaithful_a omission_n mistranslation_n and_o miscollection_n of_o mr_n d._n his_o demand_n be_v hereby_o answer_v and_o hereby_o he_o may_v see_v why_o i_o refer_v he_o to_o this_o book_n as_o for_o those_o matter_n of_o fact_n which_o he_o add_v the_o untrueth_n thereof_o be_v elsewhere_o to_o be_v declare_v we_o will_v now_o proceed_v to_o mr_n dau._n his_o three_o allegation_n sect_n iii_o his_o allegation_n of_o mr_n parker_n examine_v io._n dav_n 241._o dav_n apol._n reply_n p._n 240_o 241._o for_o mr_n parker_n he_o large_o and_o strong_o prove_v this_o position_n 1_o position_n de_fw-fr polit._n eccl._n l._n 3._o c._n 1_o potestas_fw-la ecclesiastica_fw-la essentialiter_fw-la &_o primariò_fw-la in_o ipsâ_fw-la ecclesiâ_fw-la tanquam_fw-la in_o subjecto_fw-la proprio_fw-la residet_fw-la the_o power_n ecclesiastical_a do_v essential_o and_o primary_o reside_v in_o the_o church_n itself_o as_o in_o its_o proper_a subject_n the_o sense_n wherein_o he_o thus_o speak_v to_o prevent_v all_o suspicion_n of_o his_o plead_n for_o popular_a confusion_n he_o declare_v out_o of_o zanchy_a who_o say_v toti_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la dedisse_fw-la christum_fw-la clave_n 3._o zanch._n in_o precept_n 4._o qu._n 3._o sed_fw-la ita_fw-la ut_fw-la in_o ecclesiâ_fw-la certi_fw-la essent_fw-la qui_fw-la clavibus_fw-la utantur_fw-la ad_fw-la salutem_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la honoremque_fw-la dei_fw-la that_o christ_n give_v the_o key_n to_o the_o whole_a church_n but_o so_o that_o there_o shall_v be_v certain_a man_n that_o shall_v use_v the_o key_n to_o the_o good_a of_o the_o church_n and_o glory_n of_o god_n for_o the_o proof_n of_o the_o former_a that_o the_o right_n of_o power_n be_v in_o every_o particular_a church_n he_o use_v five_o argument_n in_o the_o 6._o &_o 7._o chapter_n and_o then_o in_o the_o 8._o chapter_n he_o come_v to_o speak_v of_o the_o exercise_n and_o ordinary_a execution_n of_o this_o power_n which_o be_v he_o say_v in_o the_o church-officer_n or_o ruler_n yet_o with_o this_o moderation_n that_o this_o dispensation_n of_o the_o church_n power_n in_o the_o officer_n be_v according_a to_o a_o well_o temper_a form_n partly_o aristocratical_a partly_o democraticall_a the_o church_n commit_v those_o thing_n to_o the_o presbytery_n which_o it_o can_v commodious_o perform_v by_o itself_o and_o retain_v that_o exercise_n of_o power_n which_o belong_v to_o the_o dignity_n authority_n and_o liberty_n which_o it_o have_v receive_v from_o christ_n thus_o he_o whole_o destroy_v that_o democraty_n or_o popular_a anarchy_n which_o beza_n just_o condemn_v in_o morellius_n and_o be_v by_o some_o unjust_o impute_v to_o those_o that_o plead_v for_o a_o due_a reformation_n of_o church_n according_a to_o the_o rule_n of_o the_o word_n and_o the_o primitive_a pattern_n of_o the_o first_o sort_n of_o thing_n which_o the_o church_n commit_v to_o the_o ruler_n because_o it_o can_v commodious_o perform_v they_o by_o itself_o he_o speak_v in_o cap._n 9.10.11_o answ._n mr_n dau._n profess_a and_o promise_v touch_v mr_n parker_n and_o these_o other_o writer_n that_o he_o will_v show_v they_o to_o be_v strong_o against_o i_o but_o though_o he_o make_v a_o long_a discourse_n of_o his_o writing_n and_o do_v allege_v in_o gross_a eleven_o chapter_n at_o once_o out_o of_o mr_n parker_n yet_o do_v i_o not_o find_v that_o he_o apply_v any_o thing_n to_o the_o question_n against_o i_o for_o i._o suppose_v it_o be_v grant_v which_o yet_o some_o godly_a and_o learned_a man_n deny_v that_o all_o power_n ecclesiastical_a be_v essential_o and_o primary_o in_o the_o church_n as_o the_o proper_a subject_n thereof_o and_o from_o thence_o derive_v and_o communicate_v to_o other_o either_o particular_a person_n or_o assembly_n of_o class_n and_o synod_n what_o be_v this_o to_o our_o question_n do_v it_o follow_v from_o hence_o that_o synod_n have_v no_o power_n to_o judge_v ecclesiastical_a cause_n or_o that_o they_o be_v only_o for_o counsel_n or_o admonition_n this_o be_v the_o point_n of_o our_o question_n but_o this_o neither_o mr_n parker_n affirm_v neither_o do_v mr_n d._n offer_v to_o conclude_v it_o by_o any_o just_a consequence_n from_o his_o word_n and_o so_o all_o that_o he_o allege_v be_v not_o to_o the_o purpose_n ii_o this_o very_a derivation_n of_o power_n from_o particular_a church_n unto_o class_n and_o synod_n be_v a_o argument_n of_o the_o power_n of_o judgement_n that_o be_v in_o they_o for_o what_o great_a need_n be_v there_o of_o a_o derivative_a power_n to_o consult_v or_o to_o admonish_v only_o mr_n d._n confess_v that_o 47._o that_o apol._n reply_n p._n 47._o every_o christian_n have_v power_n of_o admonition_n in_o another_o for_o his_o good_a and_o shall_v synod_n have_v no_o more_o power_n then_o particular_a and_o private_a person_n iii_o whereas_o mr_n parker_n distinguish_v betwixt_o the_o power_n of_o the_o church_n and_o the_o exercise_n of_o that_o power_n and_o acknowledge_v that_o the_o execution_n of_o this_o power_n in_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n be_v not_o in_o the_o whole_a church_n but_o in_o some_o special_a person_n appoint_v thereunto_o it_o follow_v hence_o that_o in_o some_o thing_n the_o minister_n and_o governor_n of_o a_o church_n have_v a_o power_n which_o the_o church_n can_v exercise_v without_o they_o and_o therefore_o in_o some_o respect_n a_o great_a authority_n than_o the_o whole_a church_n beside_o they_o this_o be_v confess_v in_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o brownist_n themselves_o who_o keep_v their_o child_n sometime_o unbaptise_v for_o many_o year_n together_o while_o they_o want_v minister_n that_o have_v authority_n to_o baptise_v iv_o the_o author_n allege_v by_o mr_n parker_n to_o show_v that_o ecclesiastical_a power_n be_v original_o in_o the_o church_n do_v never_o draw_v any_o such_o consequence_n from_o thence_o that_o therefore_o there_o be_v no_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n in_o synod_n but_o make_v the_o contrary_a conclusion_n that_o therefore_o there_o be_v a_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n in_o they_o and_o this_o conclusion_n be_v make_v not_o only_o by_o the_o council_n of_o constance_n and_o basill_n joh._n gerson_n &_o schola_fw-la parisiensis_fw-la but_o by_o d._n whitaker_n also_o who_o mr_n dau._n 238._o dau._n ibid._n p._n 237._o 238._o allege_v as_o if_o he_o make_v for_o he_o who_o yet_o reason_n strong_o against_o he_o say_v 170._o say_v de_fw-fr conc_fw-fr qu._n 5._o p._n 170._o if_o a_o particular_a church_n have_v great_a authority_n in_o judgement_n than_o peter_n or_o any_o particular_a man_n then_o much_o more_o the_o universal_a church_n which_o be_v represent_v in_o a_o general_a council_n or_o synod_n v._o for_o mr_n parker_n himself_o though_o he_o be_v very_o large_a touch_v the_o original_a power_n of_o particular_a church_n and_o the_o derivation_n thereof_o unto_o minister_n &_o synod_n yet_o he_o never_o conclude_v from_o hence_o a_o want_n of_o jurisdiction_n in_o synod_n but_o declare_v the_o contrary_a in_o many_o etc._n many_o pol._n ecc._n l._n 3._o c._n 20._o &_o 23_o 24._o etc._n etc._n place_n as_o be_v to_o be_v show_v hereafter_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n let_v we_o consider_v how_o mr_n dau._n proceed_v in_o allege_v mr_n parker_n i._o dav_n of_o the_o second_o sort_n of_o thing_n which_o the_o church_n retain_v in_o itself_o because_o it_o can_v commodious_o exercise_v they_o by_o itself_o he_o speak_v in_o cap._n 12._o wherein_o by_o 22_o argument_n he_o prove_v the_o church_n superiority_n over_o her_o pastor_n and_o ruler_n in_o 3_o respect_n 1._o of_o the_o end_n the_o power_n which_o they_o have_v be_v give_v they_o for_o her_o aedification_n 2._o in_o respect_n of_o the_o application_n of_o it_o to_o the_o person_n 3._o in_o respect_n of_o regulate_v the_o use_n of_o it_o if_o it_o be_v abuse_v answ._n i._n if_o those_o 22_o argument_n of_o mr_n park_n be_v good_a and_o effectual_a to_o prove_v the_o church_n superiority_n over_o her_o ruler_n then_o have_v we_o so_o many_o sound_a argument_n to_o prove_v the_o authority_n of_o class_n and_o synod_n this_o be_v evident_a because_o mr_n p._n apply_v those_o 22_o argument_n to_o prove_v the_o jurisdiction_n of_o synod_n as_o well_o as_o of_o particular_a church_n
controversy_n that_o arise_v in_o the_o same_o and_o according_a to_o mr_n parker_n do_v exercise_v a_o lawful_a jurisdiction_n herein_o from_o this_o communication_n of_o church_n he_o come_v to_o speak_v 340._o speak_v ibid._n c._n 23._o p._n 345._o 340._o of_o their_o combination_n from_o whence_o arise_v a_o combine_a church_n derive_v from_o other_o church_n this_o combination_n he_o note_v to_o consist_v either_o of_o two_o or_o more_o church_n a_o instance_n of_o this_o combination_n of_o two_o he_o give_v in_o the_o synod_n at_o jerusalem_n act._n 15._o and_o say_v it_o be_v a_o council_n and_o synod_n and_o that_o proper_o and_o that_o of_o two_o church_n to_o wit_n of_o antioch_n and_o jerusalem_n for_o the_o messenger_n send_v from_o antioch_n be_v present_a which_o represent_v the_o church_n of_o antioch_n as_o be_v usual_a in_o counsel_n and_o notwithstanding_o a_o objection_n make_v against_o the_o church_n of_o antioch_n yet_o he_o say_v that_o church_n be_v also_o judge_v in_o that_o council_n because_o their_o messenger_n bring_v the_o judgement_n of_o the_o same_o with_o they_o hereupon_o he_o reprove_v two_o spirit_n of_o error_n the_o one_o of_o grotius_n who_o 〈◊〉_d say_v to_o reject_v the_o use_n of_o synod_n altogether_o for_o who_o will_v write_v this_o say_v mr_n parâ—…_n 〈◊〉_d be_v that_o be_v bewitch_v with_o error_n see_v the_o church_n of_o god_n have_v always_o hold_v that_o sâ—…_n be_v here_o institute_v of_o god_n to_o endure_v for_o ever_o etc._n etc._n the_o second_o spirit_n of_o error_n will-he_n reprove_v be_v that_o of_o the_o hierarchy_n 347._o hierarchy_n p._n 347._o because_o they_o condemn_v the_o reform_a synod_n as_o if_o they_o be_v degenerate_a quae_fw-la tamen_fw-la ad_fw-la hunc_fw-la typum_fw-la accuratissime_fw-la efformantur_fw-la which_o be_v notwithstanding_o most_o exact_o frame_v according_a to_o this_o pattern_n hence_o it_o appear_v that_o mr_n parker_n hold_v the_o synod_n of_o divine_a institution_n 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hereunto_o if_o it_o be_v so_o let_v they_o join_v themselves_o unto_o the_o next_o eldership_n or_o erect_v a_o common_a eldership_n among_o themselves_o and_o so_o from_o common_a counsel_n and_o help_n let_v they_o seek_v remedy_n for_o their_o weakness_n now_o it_o be_v record_v 167._o record_v calvin_n epist_n 167._o that_o in_o the_o discipline_n at_o geneva_n the_o right_a of_o excommunication_n be_v in_o the_o power_n of_o this_o consistory_n or_o common_a eldership_n and_o hereby_o then_o it_o appear_v that_o all_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n be_v not_o limit_v unto_o a_o particular_a church_n only_o and_o that_o mr_n parker_n allow_v of_o this_o government_n at_o geneva_n be_v not_o against_o the_o jurisdiction_n of_o many_o church_n over_o one_o again_o whereas_o d._n bancroft_n and_o d._n field_n object_n that_o the_o church_n at_o geneva_n and_o the_o village_n of_o the_o netherlands_o have_v not_o the_o power_n of_o excommunication_n and_o whereas_o my_o opposite_n complain_v that_o church_n be_v bring_v into_o bondage_n and_o loose_v their_o liberty_n when_o they_o may_v not_o excommunicate_v without_o the_o consent_n of_o other_o mr_n parker_n answer_n be_v 349._o be_v p._n 349._o that_o the_o power_n of_o excommunication_n ordination_n and_o other_o jurisdiction_n remain_v pure_a in_o they_o save_v that_o communion_n which_o ought_v to_o be_v among_o church_n every_o church_n in_o great_a matter_n use_v the_o consent_n and_o counsel_n of_o her_o neighbour_n as_o of_o the_o classis_fw-la or_o eldership_n in_o the_o city_n quod_fw-la ego_fw-la ecclesiis_fw-la vel_fw-la perfectissimis_fw-la non_fw-la indigâ—um_fw-la reor_fw-la which_o i_o judge_v say_v he_o not_o to_o be_v unmeet_a even_o for_o the_o most_o perfect_a church_n thus_o he_o require_v not_o only_a counsel_n but_o consent_n of_o other_o church_n in_o weighty_a matter_n which_o be_v that_o we_o stand_v for_o this_o do_v not_o as_o he_o say_v 390._o say_v p._n 390._o import_v any_o 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quantum_fw-la peccat_fw-la hierarchia_fw-la quae_fw-la hanc_fw-la suavissimam_fw-la ecclesiarum_fw-la combinationem_fw-la eliminavit_fw-la that_o be_v all_o thing_n in_o our_o government_n and_o in_o our_o class_n be_v like_a unto_o these_o o_o how_o much_o do_v the_o hierarchy_n offend_v which_o have_v banish_v this_o most_o sweet_a combination_n of_o church_n and_o as_o well_o may_v we_o cry_v out_o o_o how_o much_o do_v the_o author_n of_o the_o single_a uncompounded_a policy_n offend_v who_o likewise_o seek_v to_o banish_v and_o overthrow_v this_o combination_n of_o church_n in_o class_n while_o they_o allow_v they_o only_o for_o counsel_n and_o regard_v not_o their_o consent_n but_o allow_v the_o church_n in_o combination_n to_o proceed_v in_o the_o weighty_a affair_n without_o or_o against_o the_o consent_n of_o class_n whereas_o it_o be_v object_v not_o only_o by_o my_o opposite_n but_o by_o some_o of_o the_o hierarchy_n themselves_o that_o these_o class_n do_v take_v unto_o 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nor_o exercise_v their_o power_n but_o with_o mutual_a communication_n one_o ask_v the_o counsel_n and_o consent_n of_o the_o other_o in_o that_o common_a presbytery_n second_o it_o be_v one_o thing_n for_o church_n to_o subject_n themselves_o to_o a_o bishop_n and_o consistory_n wherein_o they_o shall_v have_v no_o power_n of_o suffrage_n another_o thing_n to_o communicate_v with_o such_o a_o presbytery_n wherein_o themselves_o be_v member_n and_o judge_n with_o other_o after_o that_o again_o he_o add_v geneva_n make_v this_o consociation_n not_o as_o if_o the_o prime_a church_n be_v imperfect_a and_o to_o make_v one_o church_n by_o this_o union_n but_o because_o though_o they_o be_v entire_a church_n and_o have_v the_o power_n of_o church_n yet_o they_o need_v this_o support_n in_o exercise_v of_o it_o and_o that_o by_o this_o mean_v the_o minister_n and_o senior_n of_o it_o may_v have_v communion_n thus_o he_o note_v not_o only_o the_o counsel_n but_o the_o consent_n of_o other_o 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of_o presbyter_n that_o be_v of_o minister_n and_o elder_n and_o of_o their_o government_n he_o say_v 67._o say_v ibid._n p._n 67._o there_o be_v nothing_o find_v belong_v to_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n in_o foro_fw-la externo_fw-la but_o the_o scripture_n do_v asscribe_v it_o to_o they_o power_n of_o suffrage_n in_o council_n act._n 15._o power_n of_o excommunication_n which_o be_v manifest_a to_o have_v be_v in_o the_o church_n of_o corinth_n etc._n etc._n while_o he_o allege_v act._n 15._o for_o a_o evidence_n of_o the_o presbyter_n power_n in_o synod_n or_o counsel_n he_o do_v hereby_o acknowledge_v that_o in_o synod_n there_o be_v a_o lawful_a exercise_n of_o jurisdiction_n and_o of_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n and_o that_o therefore_o they_o be_v not_o only_o for_o counsel_n and_o advise_v to_o like_o purpose_n he_o say_v afterward_o again_o 82._o again_o p._n 82._o the_o apostle_n do_v not_o offer_v alone_o to_o determine_v the_o question_n act._n 15._o but_o have_v 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answer_n be_v find_v he_o do_v plain_o overthrow_v his_o own_o 7._o own_o ch._n pl._n p._n 71._o &_o 76._o arg._n 9_o &_o reas_n 7._o argument_n build_v upon_o the_o same_o foundation_n which_o here_o he_o seek_v to_o destroy_v there_o be_v no_o usefulnes_n mention_v in_o the_o author_n word_n nor_o any_o other_o to_o be_v understand_v than_o such_o as_o be_v employ_v in_o the_o say_a &_o other_o the_o like_a expression_n and_o reason_n of_o mr_n c._n 11._o though_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o every_o truth_n of_o god_n be_v useful_a &_o to_o be_v use_v without_o gainsay_v when_o it_o appear_v to_o be_v such_o yet_o when_o this_o truth_n be_v deny_v and_o the_o point_n controvert_v it_o be_v no_o strange_a course_n to_o prove_v it_o to_o be_v law_n by_o the_o agreement_n which_o it_o have_v with_o that_o which_o be_v confess_v to_o be_v law_n this_o the_o author_n have_v do_v in_o the_o place_n above_o mention_v and_o beside_o see_v according_a to_o that_o esto_fw-la that_o salus_fw-la populi_fw-la suprema_fw-la lex_fw-la esto_fw-la law_n of_o law_n common_o receive_v the_o safety_n of_o the_o people_n be_v the_o high_a law_n and_o that_o appeal_v be_v 231._o be_v luth._o tom._n 1._o f._n 231._o for_o the_o relief_n of_o the_o oppress_a and_o a_o remedy_n against_o wrong_n &_o injury_n why_o may_v we_o not_o conclude_v that_o such_o a_o government_n where_o they_o be_v in_o due_a manner_n admit_v be_v a_o sanctuary_n against_o tyranny_n and_o in_o this_o respect_n rather_o to_o be_v embrace_v then_o independency_n where_o the_o same_o be_v deny_v i._o c._n answ._n ii_o the_o papist_n and_o hierarchy_n for_o their_o discipline_n give_v the_o very_a same_o reason_n viz._n that_o there_o may_v be_v no_o tyranny_n and_o oppression_n among_o brethren_n etc._n etc._n repl._n and_o so_o do_v mr_n c._n for_o independency_n 76._o independency_n ch._n pl._n p._n 76._o that_o a_o particular_a congregation_n may_v not_o of_o a_o mistress_n become_v a_o servant_n instead_o of_o be_v a_o superior_a wilful_o vassal_n &_o enslave_v herself_o etc._n etc._n i._o c._n answ._n iii_o i_o do_v deny_v that_o this_o government_n by_o class_n &_o synod_n serve_v better_a for_o the_o church_n welfare_n then_o that_o which_o the_o apostle_n institute_v etc._n etc._n repl._n and_o so_o will_v we_o when_o he_o have_v prove_v that_o independency_n be_v the_o government_n institute_v by_o the_o apostle_n i._o c._n answ._n iu._n if_o it_o shall_v be_v grant_v that_o particular_a congregation_n by_o this_o kind_n of_o government_n shall_v have_v peace_n profit_n credit_n &_o other_o worldly_a respect_n yet_o this_o be_v no_o sufficient_a reason_n etc._n etc._n repl._n the_o defendant_n never_o use_v such_o a_o reason_n this_o be_v a_o skarre-crow_n of_o his_o own_o set_n up_o and_o therefore_o we_o must_v give_v he_o leave_v to_o please_v himself_o in_o that_o fivefold_a shot_n which_o he_o make_v as_o it_o the_o four_o reason_n which_o he_o suppose_v he_o have_v find_v in_o the_o author_n book_n be_v the_o mention_n which_o he_o make_v of_o the_o determination_n of_o nationall_n synod_n concern_v the_o power_n exercise_v by_o the_o classis_fw-la and_o the_o consent_n of_o all_o reform_a church_n hereunto_o he_o answer_v i._o council_n may_v err_v etc._n etc._n ii_o these_o testimony_n be_v all_o human_a etc._n etc._n iii_o this_o reason_n be_v the_o same_o which_o the_o papist_n use_n etc._n etc._n repl._n i._n the_o decree_n of_o synod_n be_v not_o allege_v to_o prove_v the_o lawfulness_n of_o this_o government_n but_o to_o show_v the_o establish_a exercise_n of_o it_o before_o the_o author_n either_o know_v the_o classis_fw-la or_o they_o he_o &_o that_o therefore_o he_o have_v not_o subject_v the_o church_n to_o this_o power_n ii_o though_o council_n may_v err_v yet_o it_o do_v not_o therefore_o follow_v that_o they_o do_v always_o err_v &_o that_o they_o may_v