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against_o the_o remonstrance_n 20._o of_o the_o lord_n aubigny_n and_o montague_n as_o likewise_o of_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o english_a and_o irish_a chaplain_n to_o either_o queen_n and_o the_o grand_a mistake_n i._n e._n omission_n at_o first_o in_o pass_v they_o by_o and_o the_o great_a use_n make_v of_o that_o omission_n 20_o 21._o sixteen_o several_a reason_n cause_n or_o pretence_n thereof_o and_o all_o and_o each_o of_o they_o regard_v only_o temporal_a end_n or_o worldly_a interest_n and_o this_o too_o mistake_v 22._o from_o thence_o to_o 27._o as_o many_o several_a answer_n which_o be_v give_v by_o the_o procurator_n to_o those_o reason_n 27._o and_o from_o thence_o to_o 41._o neither_o uncatholickness_n nor_o other_o unlawfulness_n in_o subscribe_v all_o the_o while_n so_o much_o as_o pretend_v by_o any_o in_o ireland_n not_o even_o of_o those_o that_o allege_v so_o many_o other_o excuse_n 42._o the_o more_o ample_a account_n translate_v at_o rome_n in_o order_n to_o be_v 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hence_o that_o they_o see_v it_o so_o express_v in_o scripture_n father_n doctor_n of_o the_o catholic_n roman_n church_n in_o all_o age_n let_v it_o now_o be_v suppose_v that_o their_o superior_n shall_v tell_v they_o the_o contrary_a in_o the_o same_o case_n how_o therefore_o do_v they_o on_o such_o mad_a pretence_n obey_v the_o command_n of_o their_o superior_n enjoin_v they_o to_o subtract_v civil_a obedience_n from_o the_o supreme_a civil_a power_n in_o a_o matter_n concern_v the_o peace_n and_o tranquillity_n of_o the_o commonwealth_n and_o in_o a_o matter_n wherein_o their_o superior_n can_v show_v nor_o themselves_o can_v see_v any_o evil_n imply_v do_v not_o they_o see_v it_o be_v against_o the_o express_a law_n of_o god_n to_o subtract_v obedience_n from_o the_o civil_a power_n in_o this_o case_n do_v not_o the_o scripture_n council_n ipsum_fw-la council_n council_n tol._n x._o c._n 2._o si_fw-mi quis_fw-la religiosorum_fw-la ab_fw-la episcopo_fw-la usque_fw-la ad_fw-la extremi_fw-la ordiâ—is_fw-la clericum_fw-la sive_fw-la monachus_fw-la generalia_fw-la juramenta_fw-la in_o saluteâ—_n regium_fw-la gentisque_fw-la aut_fw-la patriae_fw-la data_fw-la reperiatur_fw-la violasse_n voluntate_fw-la profana_fw-la mox_fw-la propria_fw-la dignitate_fw-la privatum_fw-la &_o loco_fw-la &_o honore_fw-la habeatur_fw-la exclusus_fw-la becanus_n in_o sum._n theol._n de_fw-fr bonit_fw-la act_n in_o it_o c._n 4._o q._n 7._o con_v 4._o &_o alii_fw-la apud_fw-la ipsum_fw-la father_n doctor_n the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n in_o all_o age_n proclaim_v it_o they_o can_v be_v ignorant_a hereof_o and_o if_o any_o of_o they_o have_v be_v hitherto_o certain_o their_o ignorance_n can_v be_v no_o long_o invincible_a that_o be_v such_o as_o may_v not_o be_v overcome_v by_o humane_a industry_n nor_o probable_a that_o be_v which_o have_v probable_a reason_n to_o maintain_v their_o disobedience_n to_o the_o council_n for_o what_o reason_n can_v be_v probable_a against_o the_o plain_a sense_n of_o holy_a scripture_n and_o the_o unanimous_a consent_n of_o the_o holy_a father_n and_o doctor_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n in_o all_o age_n as_o for_o affect_a ignorance_n gross_a vincible_a or_o improbable_a none_o of_o they_o excuse_v from_o damnation_n according_a to_o the_o sense_n of_o all_o catholic_n writer_n but_o alas_o ignorance_n be_v not_o the_o cause_n of_o sinful_a obstinacy_n malice_n and_o a_o natural_a inclination_n occasion_v it_o in_o very_a many_o a_o rash_a engagement_n in_o other_o hope_n of_o preferment_n to_o benefice_n and_o superiority_n in_o other_o in_o other_o a_o stupid_a fear_n of_o lose_v what_o they_o have_v be_v persuade_v by_o experience_n of_o the_o former_a revolution_n that_o a_o excommunication_n the_o most_o unjust_a will_v alter_v the_o whole_a frame_n of_o government_n and_o that_o there_o shall_v be_v no_o live_n in_o ireland_n for_o any_o will_v oppose_v the_o lord_n nuncio_n design_n herein_o or_o the_o power_n of_o owen_n o_o neill_n behold_v the_o true_a cause_n of_o their_o obstinacy_n on_o in_o other_o a_o apprehension_n of_o shame_n and_o disgrace_n in_o reclaim_v a_o error_n and_o fall_v from_o this_o way_n they_o once_o resolve_v on_o and_o no_o sense_n of_o conscience_n behold_v the_o reason_n why_o even_o the_o best_a and_o most_o learned_a among_o they_o be_v demand_v the_o ground_n of_o their_o opposition_n do_v say_v common_o that_o they_o will_v neither_o give_v reason_n nor_o take_v reason_n and_o when_o they_o speak_v their_o mind_n at_o full_a do_v now_o at_o last_o only_o censure_v the_o intention_n which_o the_o council_n and_o their_o adherent_n have_v in_o the_o conclude_a the_o cessation_n because_o they_o find_v no_o other_o cause_n and_o yet_o will_v seem_v not_o without_o some_o cause_n to_o reject_v it_o which_o they_o be_v engage_v for_o so_o many_o unworthy_a cause_n to_o oppose_v but_o who_o see_v not_o in_o our_o answer_n to_o the_o first_o and_o second_o querie_n the_o false_a imposture_n of_o this_o last_o refuge_n yet_o by_o reason_n they_o make_v hereof_o more_o use_n than_o of_o any_o other_o we_o brief_o propose_v the_o ensue_a consideration_n first_o that_o the_o declaration_n and_o censure_n of_o the_o lord_n nuncio_n congregation_n and_o delegate_n in_o obedience_n to_o which_o they_o disobey_v the_o council_n be_v not_o against_o such_o evil_a intention_n but_o against_o the_o very_a substance_n of_o the_o article_n of_o cessation_n as_o in_o themselves_o evil_a and_o unconscionable_a it_o be_v manifest_a to_o any_o that_o please_v to_o read_v and_o peruse_v the_o tenor_n of_o both_o decree_n which_o contain_v not_o a_o word_n import_v other_o sense_n ibid._n bâ—n_n tract_n de_fw-fr legib._n disp_n 1._o q._n 1._o punct_a 8._o prop._n 2._o &_o alii_fw-la apud_fw-la ipsuâ—_n ibid._n and_o therefore_o can_v be_v extend_v to_o evil_a intention_n though_o we_o grant_v such_o intention_n to_o have_v be_v in_o regard_v a_o penal_a decree_n or_o law_n be_v to_o be_v restrain_v not_o extend_v according_a to_o the_o maxim_n of_o canonist_n wherefore_o this_o recourse_n of_o they_o to_o evil_a intention_n and_o their_o not_o show_v any_o other_o evil_a in_o the_o object_n that_o be_v in_o the_o cessation_n itself_o or_o in_o the_o conclusion_n and_o observation_n of_o it_o conclude_v a_o error_n in_o the_o decree_n or_o sentence_n of_o excommunication_n and_o consequent_o disannul_v it_o and_o leave_v they_o no_o reasonable_a pretence_n for_o disobey_v the_o council_n since_o their_o pretence_n be_v the_o suppose_a obligation_n of_o the_o censure_n which_o even_o their_o own_o answer_n take_v away_o the_o second_o be_v though_o it_o be_v grant_v that_o the_o council_n or_o other_o who_o negotiate_v the_o affair_n of_o cessation_n have_v such_o intention_n at_o first_o or_o upon_o the_o perfection_n of_o it_o yet_o may_v they_o have_v change_v such_o evil_a intention_n into_o good_a during_o the_o nine_o day_n give_v in_o the_o monitory_a decree_n for_o deliberation_n and_o consequent_o if_o there_o be_v no_o other_o evil_n but_o of_o their_o intention_n how_o can_v the_o nuncio_n proceed_v to_o execute_v his_o censure_n since_o they_o protest_v in_o their_o appeal_n before_o the_o nine_o day_n and_o in_o other_o print_a declaration_n that_o they_o have_v no_o such_o intention_n nay_o how_o can_v he_o proceed_v to_o this_o execution_n though_o they_o never_o have_v make_v any_o such_o exterior_a protestation_n whereas_o without_o it_o they_o may_v have_v take_v away_o the_o ground_n of_o the_o excommunication_n to_o wit_n the_o suppose_a evil_a intention_n the_o three_o that_o questionless_a our_o opposite_n will_v not_o deny_v but_o thousand_o be_v of_o the_o confederate_n who_o desire_v and_o embrace_v the_o cessation_n not_o out_o of_o any_o such_o evil_a intention_n but_o for_o a_o just_a end_n and_o for_o their_o own_o preservation_n how_o then_o can_v such_o be_v excommunicate_v since_o the_o ground_n of_o this_o excommunication_n to_o wit_n evil_a intention_n be_v not_o to_o be_v find_v in_o they_o and_o if_o these_o be_v not_o excommunicate_v be_v it_o not_o plain_a that_o none_o be_v excommunicate_v who_o conscience_n tell_v he_o that_o he_o do_v not_o adhere_v to_o the_o cessation_n with_o any_o evil_a intention_n how_o then_o do_v the_o nuncio_n proceed_v indifferent_o against_o they_o all_o as_o excommunicate_v person_n nay_o how_o can_v he_o proceed_v against_o any_o of_o they_o as_o such_o but_o only_o against_o he_o or_o they_o who_o naughty_a intention_n be_v apparent_a and_o who_o intention_n can_v be_v apparent_a to_o he_o but_o either_o out_o of_o confession_n or_o secundum_fw-la allegata_fw-la &_o probata_fw-la by_o exterior_a proof_n for_o god_n alone_o be_v judge_n of_o the_o interior_a not_o the_o church_n and_o who_o be_v it_o that_o be_v so_o convict_v or_o confess_v before_o he_o such_o intention_n nay_o who_o be_v it_o be_v summon_v to_o his_o tribunal_n for_o such_o a_o business_n the_o four_o consideration_n be_v of_o the_o