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appendix_n to_o it_o this_o caution_n caveatautem_fw-la omninò_fw-la ne_fw-la verbo_fw-la aut_fw-la signo_fw-la aut_fw-la alio_fw-la quovis_fw-la modo_fw-la aliquatenus_fw-la prodat_fw-la peccatorem_fw-la sed_fw-la si_fw-la prudentiore_fw-la consilio_fw-la indiguerit_fw-la illud_fw-la absque_fw-la ullâ_fw-la expressione_n personae_fw-la requirat_fw-la this_o law_n concern_v they_o that_o do_v confess_v their_o secret_a sin_n to_o a_o priest_n in_o order_n to_o counsel_n comfort_n and_o pardon_v from_o god_n by_o his_o ministry_n be_v very_o prudent_a and_o pious_a and_o it_o relate_v only_o to_o the_o person_n not_o to_o the_o crime_n these_o may_v upon_o the_o account_n of_o any_o doubt_n or_o the_o advantage_n of_o better_a counsel_n and_o instruction_n be_v reveal_v the_o person_n upon_o such_o account_n may_v not_o nisi_fw-la veritas_fw-la aut_fw-la obedientia_fw-la aliud_fw-la exigat_fw-la 21._o in_o 3._o do_v 21._o as_o s._n bonaventure_n say_v well_o unless_o truth_n or_o 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fidelis_fw-la est_fw-la celat_fw-la amici_fw-la commissum_fw-la there_o be_v in_o this_o case_n some_o more_o reason_n than_o in_o ordinary_a secret_n but_o still_o the_o obligation_n be_v the_o same_o and_o to_o be_v govern_v by_o prudence_n and_o be_v subject_a to_o contradiction_n by_o great_a cause_n the_o same_o also_o be_v the_o law_n in_o the_o greek_a church_n amphilochium_n epist._n ad_fw-la amphilochium_n mention_v by_o s._n basil_n our_o father_n permit_v not_o that_o woman_n that_o have_v commit_v adultery_n and_o be_v penitent_a shall_v be_v delate_a in_o public_a 1603._o public_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a._n d._n 1603._o this_o be_v the_o whole_a ground_n and_o foundation_n on_o which_o the_o seal_n of_o confession_n do_v or_o can_v rely_v save_v only_o that_o in_o several_a church_n there_o be_v several_a law_n in_o after-age_n to_o the_o same_o purpose_n and_o particular_o in_o the_o 11_o canon_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n add_v also_o the_o penalty_n of_o irregularity_n to_o every_o priest_n that_o shall_v reveal_v any_o thing_n commit_v to_o he_o in_o private_a confession_n but_o with_o this_o proviso_n that_o it_o be_v not_o bind_v in_o such_o case_n where_o the_o concealment_n be_v make_v capital_a by_o the_o law_n of_o the_o kingdom_n which_o because_o it_o be_v very_o strict_a and_o yet_o very_o prudent_a i_o shall_v make_v it_o appear_v that_o the_o church_n of_o england_n walk_v wise_o in_o it_o and_o according_a to_o the_o precedent_n of_o the_o ancient_n catholic_n church_n in_o command_v the_o seal_n to_o be_v break_v up_o in_o some_o case_n and_o yet_o she_o have_v restrain_v it_o more_o than_o former_o be_v observe_v in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n burchard_n express_o affirm_v 21._o lib._n 19_o decreti_fw-la svi_fw-la c._n 37._o council_n moguaâ—_n cap._n 10._o &_o 21._o that_o before_o the_o nicene_n council_n the_o penitentiary_n priest_n may_v publish_v what_o he_o hear_v in_o confession_n if_o it_o be_v for_o the_o good_a of_o the_o penitent_a or_o for_o the_o greatness_n of_o the_o crime_n it_o seem_v fit_a to_o the_o confessor_n and_o that_o he_o say_v true_a we_o have_v sufficient_a testimony_n from_o
for_o it_o be_v in_o the_o second_o council_n of_o cabailon_n and_o not_o in_o theodore_n penitential_a but_o i_o will_v not_o trouble_v the_o reader_n further_o in_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o latin_a church_n in_o which_o it_o be_v evident_a by_o what_o have_v be_v already_o say_v there_o be_v concern_v this_o not_o apostolical_a tradition_n how_o it_o be_v in_o the_o greek_a church_n be_v only_o to_o be_v inquire_v now_o we_o may_v make_v as_o quick_a a_o end_n of_o this_o also_o poenit_fw-la de_fw-fr poenit_fw-la do_v 5._o c._n in_o poenit_fw-la if_o we_o may_v be_v permit_v to_o take_v semeca_n word_n the_o gloss_n of_o the_o canon_n law_n which_o affirm_n that_o confession_n of_o deadly_a sin_n be_v not_o necessary_a among_o the_o greek_n because_o no_o such_o tradition_n have_v not_o descend_v unto_o they_o this_o acknowledgement_n and_o report_n of_o the_o greek_n not_o esteem_v confession_n to_o a_o priest_n to_o be_v necessary_a be_v not_o only_o in_o the_o gloss_n above_o cite_v deo_fw-la de_fw-fr poenit_fw-la do_v 1._o c._n quidam_fw-la deo_fw-la but_o in_o gratian_n himself_o and_o in_o the_o more_o ancient_a collection_n of_o canon_n by_o burchard_n and_o ivo_n carnotensis_n bellarmine_n fancy_n that_o these_o word_n ut_fw-la graeci_fw-la be_v creep_v into_o the_o text_n of_o gratian_n out_o of_o the_o margin_n well!_o suppose_v that_o but_o then_o how_o come_v they_o into_o the_o elder_a collection_n of_o burchard_n and_o ivo_n that_o be_v not_o to_o be_v tell_v but_o creep_v in_o they_o do_v some_o way_n or_o other_o because_o they_o be_v not_o in_o the_o capitular_a of_o theodore_n archbishop_n of_o canterbury_n and_o yet_o from_o thence_o this_o canon_n be_v take_v and_o that_o capitular_a be_v take_v from_o the_o second_o council_n of_o cabaillon_n 5._o de_fw-fr poenit_fw-la lib._n 3._o cap._n 5._o in_o which_o also_o there_o be_v no_o such_o word_n extant_a so_o the_o cardinal_n in_o which_o bellarmine_n betray_v his_o carelessness_n or_o his_o ignorance_n very_o great_o 1._o because_o there_o be_v no_o such_o thing_n extant_a in_o the_o world_n that_o any_o man_n know_v and_o tell_v of_o as_o the_o capitular_a of_o theodore_n 2._o he_o indeed_o make_v a_o penitential_a a_o copy_n of_o which_o be_v in_o benet_n college_n library_n in_o cambridge_n from_o whence_o i_o have_v receive_v some_o extract_n by_o the_o favour_n and_o industry_n of_o my_o friend_n and_o another_o copy_n of_o it_o be_v in_o sir_n robert_n cotten_n library_n 3._o true_a it_o be_v there_o be_v in_o that_o penitential_a no_o such_o word_n as_o ut_fw-la graeci_fw-la but_o a_o direct_a affirmation_n confessionem_fw-la svam_fw-la deo_fw-la soli_fw-la si_fw-la necesse_fw-la est_fw-la licebit_fw-la agere_fw-la 4._o that_o theodore_n shall_v take_v this_o chapter_n out_o of_o the_o second_o council_n of_o cabaillon_n be_v a_o intolerable_a piece_n of_o ignorance_n or_o negligence_n in_o so_o great_a a_o scholar_n as_o bellarmine_n when_o it_o be_v notorious_a that_o the_o council_n be_v after_o theodore_n above_o 120._o year_n 5._o but_o than_o last_o because_o theodore_n though_o he_o sit_v in_o the_o seat_n of_o canterbury_n yet_o be_v a_o greek_a bear_v his_o word_n be_v a_o good_a record_n of_o the_o opinion_n of_o the_o greek_n that_o confession_n of_o sin_n be_v if_o there_o be_v need_n to_o be_v make_v to_o god_n alone_o but_o this_o i_o shall_v prove_v with_o firm_a testimony_n not_o many_o letorum_fw-la epist._n canon_n ad_fw-la letorum_fw-la but_o pregnant_a clear_a and_o undeniable_a s._n gregory_n nyssen_n observe_v that_o the_o ancient_a father_n before_o he_o in_o their_o public_a discipline_n do_v take_v no_o notice_n of_o the_o sin_n of_o covetousness_n that_o be_v leave_v they_o without_o public_a penance_n otherwise_o than_o it_o be_v order_v in_o other_o sin_n and_o therefore_o he_o interpose_v his_o judgement_n thus_o but_o concern_v these_o thing_n because_o this_o be_v praetermit_v by_o the_o father_n i_o do_v think_v it_o sufficient_a to_o cure_v the_o affection_n of_o covetousness_n with_o the_o public_a word_n of_o doctrine_n or_o instruction_n cure_v the_o disease_n as_o it_o be_v of_o repletion_n by_o the_o word_n that_o be_v plain_o thus_o the_o sin_n of_o covetousness_n have_v no_o canonical_a penance_n impose_v upon_o they_o and_o therefore_o many_o person_n think_v but_o little_a of_o they_o therefore_o to_o cure_v this_o evil_a let_v this_o sin_n be_v reprove_v in_o public_a sermon_n though_o there_o be_v no_o imposition_n of_o public_a penance_n so_o that_o here_o be_v a_o remedy_n without_o penance_n a_o cure_n without_o confession_n a_o public_a sermon_n instead_o of_o a_o public_a or_o private_a judicatory_a but_o the_o fact_n of_o nectarius_n in_o abrogate_a the_o public_a penitentiary-priest_n upon_o the_o occasion_n of_o a_o scandal_n do_v bear_v much_o weight_n in_o this_o question_n i_o shall_v not_o repeat_v the_o story_n who_o please_v may_v read_v it_o in_o socrates_n sozomen_n epiphanius_n cassiodore_n and_o nicephorus_n and_o it_o be_v know_v every_o where_n sect._n relect._n de_fw-fr poenit_fw-la part_n 5._o sect._n only_o they_o who_o be_v pinch_v by_o it_o endeavour_v to_o confound_v it_o as_o waldensis_n and_o canus_n some_o by_o deny_v it_o gartium_n ad_fw-la sextum_fw-la p._n 31._o edit_n salmanticae_fw-la 1563._o per_fw-la matthiam_n gartium_n as_o latinus_n latinius_n other_o by_o dispute_v concern_v every_o thing_n in_o it_o some_o say_n that_o nectarius_n abrogate_a sacramental_a confession_n other_o that_o he_o abrogate_a the_o public_a only_o so_o very_a many_o say_v and_o a_o three_o sort_n who_o yet_o speak_v with_o most_o probability_n that_o he_o only_o take_v away_o the_o office_n of_o the_o public_a penitentiary_n which_o be_v institute_v in_o the_o time_n of_o decius_n and_o leave_v thing_n as_o that_o decree_n find_v they_o that_o be_v that_o those_o who_o have_v sin_v those_o sin_n which_o be_v note_v in_o the_o penitential_a canon_n shall_v confess_v they_o to_o the_o bishop_n or_o in_o the_o face_n of_o the_o church_n and_o submit_v themselves_o to_o the_o canonical_a penance_n this_o pass_v into_o the_o office_n of_o the_o public_a penitentiary_n and_o that_o into_o nothing_o in_o the_o greek_a church_n but_o there_o be_v nothing_o of_o this_o that_o i_o insist_v upon_o but_o i_o put_v the_o stress_n of_o this_o question_n upon_o the_o product_n of_o this_o for_o eudaemon_n give_v counsel_n to_o nectarius_n and_o he_o follow_v it_o that_o he_o take_v away_o the_o penitentiary_n priest_n 19_o lib._n 5._o cap._n 19_o ut_fw-la liberam_fw-la daret_fw-la potestatem_fw-la utì_n pro_fw-la suâ_fw-la cuique_fw-la conscientiâ_fw-la 16._o eccl._n hist._n lib._n 7â—_n cap._n 16._o ad_fw-la mysteria_fw-la participanda_fw-la accederet_fw-la so_o socrates_n and_o sozomen_n to_o the_o same_o purpose_n ut_fw-la vnicuique_fw-la liberum_fw-la permitteret_fw-la prout_fw-la sibi_fw-la ipse_fw-la conscius_fw-la esset_fw-la &_o confideret_fw-la ad_fw-la mysteriorum_fw-la communionem_fw-la accedere_fw-la poenitentiarium_fw-la illum_fw-la presbyterum_fw-la exauthoravit_fw-la now_o if_o nectarius_n by_o this_o decree_n take_v away_o sacramental_a confession_n as_o the_o roman_a doctor_n call_v it_o than_o it_o be_v a_o clear_a case_n the_o greek_a church_n do_v not_o believe_v it_o necessary_a if_o it_o be_v only_o the_o public_a confession_n they_o abolish_v then_o for_o aught_o appear_v there_o be_v no_o other_o at_o that_o time_n i_o mean_v none_o command_v none_o under_o any_o law_n or_o under_o any_o necessity_n but_o whatever_o it_o be_v that_o be_v abolish_v private_a confession_n do_v not_o by_o any_o decree_n succeed_v in_o the_o place_n of_o it_o but_o every_o man_n be_v leave_v to_o his_o liberty_n and_o the_o dictate_v of_o his_o own_o conscience_n and_o according_a to_o his_o own_o persuasion_n to_o his_o fear_n or_o his_o confidence_n so_o to_o come_v and_o partake_v of_o the_o divine_a mystery_n all_o which_o be_v a_o plain_a demonstration_n that_o they_o understand_v nothing_o of_o the_o necessity_n of_o confession_n to_o a_o priest_n of_o all_o their_o sin_n before_o they_o come_v to_o the_o holy_a sacrament_n and_o in_o pursuance_n of_o this_o be_v those_o many_o exhortation_n and_o discourse_n of_o s._n chrysostom_n who_o succeed_v nectarius_n by_o his_o public_a doctrine_n can_v best_o inform_v we_o how_o they_o understand_v the_o consequence_n of_o that_o decree_n and_o of_o this_o whole_a question_n the_o sum_n of_o whole_a doctrine_n be_v this_o it_o be_v not_o necessary_a to_o have_v your_o sin_n reveal_v or_o bring_v in_o public_a not_o only_o in_o the_o congregation_n but_o not_o to_o any_o one_o but_o to_o god_n alone_o 1._o homil._n 56._o sieve_n 8._o de_fw-la poenit_fw-la tom_fw-mi 1._o make_v a_o scrutiny_n and_o pass_v a_o judgement_n on_o your_o sin_n inward_o in_o your_o conscience_n none_o be_v present_a but_o god_n alone_o that_o see_v all_o thing_n and_o again_o declare_v unto_o god_n alone_o thy_o sin_n 59_o homil._n 9_o de_fw-fr poenit._fw-la
they_o please_v but_o they_o can_v tell_v certain_o what_o be_v truth_n but_o then_o as_o for_o peter_n lombard_n himself_o all_o that_o i_o say_v of_o he_o be_v this_o that_o he_o can_v not_o tell_v he_o can_v not_o determine_v whether_o there_o be_v any_o substantial_a change_n or_o no._n if_o in_o his_o after_o discourse_n he_o declare_v that_o the_o change_n be_v of_o substance_n he_o tell_v it_o for_o no_o other_o than_o as_o a_o mere_a opinion_n if_o he_o do_v let_v he_o answer_v for_o that_o not_o i_o for_o that_o he_o can_v not_o determine_v it_o himself_o express_o say_v it_o in_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o eleven_o distinction_n and_o therefore_o these_o gentleman_n will_v better_o have_v consult_v with_o truth_n and_o modesty_n if_o they_o have_v let_v this_o alone_a and_o not_o have_v make_v such_o a_o outcry_n against_o a_o manifest_a truth_n now_o let_v i_o observe_v one_o thing_n which_o will_v be_v of_o great_a use_n in_o this_o whole_a affair_n and_o demonstrate_v the_o 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