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A46985 A reply to the defense of the Exposition of the doctrin of the Church of England being a further vindication of the Bishop of Condom's exposition of the doctrin of the Catholic Church : with a second letter from the Bishop of Meaux. Johnston, Joseph, d. 1723. 1687 (1687) Wing J870; ESTC R36202 208,797 297

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3._o it_o be_v necessary_a that_o every_o church_n shall_v have_v recourse_n to_o that_o of_o rome_n by_o reason_n of_o its_o more_o powerful_a principality_n and_o will_v with_o the_o same_o ancient_a father_n allow_v he_o a_o power_n to_o 69._o to_o euseb_n l._n 5._o hist_o c._n 23._o p._n 69._o excommunicate_v even_o the_o eastern_a bishop_n and_o much_o more_o those_o sure_a under_o the_o western_a patriarchate_n with_o 1664._o with_o de_fw-fr monogamia_fw-la c._n 8._o p._n 529._o edit_fw-la riga●t_fw-la ●paris_n 1664._o tertullian_n 1648._o tertullian_n epist_n 55._o p._n 91_o epist_n 71._o ad_fw-la quintum_fw-la fra_n trem_fw-la p._n 140._o edit_fw-la paris_n 1648._o st._n cyprian_n 131._o cyprian_n admetus_n ps_n 131._o st._n hilary_n and_o general_o with_o all_o the_o ancient_a father_n before_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a that_o the_o church_n be_v build_v upon_o st._n peter_n though_o some_o of_o those_o who_o live_v after_o the_o rise_n of_o the_o arian_n heresy_n add_v 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at_z do_fw-mi super_fw-la petrum_fw-la pundatur_fw-la ●e●●●sia_fw-la licet_fw-la idipsum_fw-la in_o alio_fw-la loco_fw-la super_fw-la omnes_fw-la apostolos_fw-la siat_a &_o cunlli_fw-la clave_n regni_fw-la coelorum_fw-la accipiant_fw-la &_o ex_fw-la aequo_fw-la super_fw-la choose_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la fortitudo_fw-la solidetur_fw-la tamen_fw-la propterea_fw-la inter_fw-la duodecim_fw-la unus_fw-la elagitur_fw-la ut_fw-la capite_fw-la constitute_v schismatis_fw-la tollatur_fw-la occasio_fw-la tom._n 2._o lib._n 1._o contra_fw-la jovinian_a c._n 14._o st._n jerome_n that_o even_o among_o the_o apostle_n a_o head_n be_v choose_v that_o a_o occasion_n of_o schism_n may_v be_v take_v away_o papam_fw-la away_o ego_fw-la nullum_fw-la primum_fw-la nisi_fw-la christum_fw-la sequens_fw-la beatnudini_fw-la tuus_fw-la i._n e._n cathedrae_fw-la pe●ri_fw-la communione_fw-la consocior_fw-la super_fw-la illam_fw-la petram_fw-la aedificatam_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la scio_fw-la quicunque_fw-la extra_fw-la have_v domum_fw-la agnum_fw-la comederit_fw-la profanus_fw-la est_fw-la si_fw-mi quis_fw-la in_o arca_n no_n non_fw-la fuerit_fw-la peribit_fw-la regnante_fw-la diluvio_fw-la quicunque_fw-la ●ecum_fw-la non_fw-la colligit_fw-la spar_v get_fw-fr quam_fw-la brem_fw-la obtestor_fw-la beatitudinem_fw-la ●uam_fw-la per_fw-la crucifixum_fw-la per_fw-la mundi_fw-la salu●em_fw-la per_fw-la homoousion_n trinitatem_fw-la at_o mihi_fw-la epistolis_fw-la tuis_fw-la five_o tacendarum_fw-la sive_fw-la dicendarum_fw-la hypostaseon_n detur_fw-la authoritos_fw-la hier._n epist_n 57_o ad_fw-la damasum_fw-la papam_fw-la that_o he_o follow_v no_o other_o leader_n but_o christ_n be_v in_o communion_n with_o his_o holiness_n that_o be_v with_o the_o chair_n of_o st._n peter_n upon_o that_o rock_n he_o know_v the_o church_n be_v build_v whosoever_o eat_v the_o lamb_n out_o of_o this_o house_n be_v profane_a whoever_o be_v not_o in_o the_o ark_n of_o noah_n shall_v perish_v in_o the_o flood_n that_o whoever_o do_v not_o gather_v with_o he_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n scatter_v and_o therefore_o i_o hope_v as_o he_o do_v so_o will_v our_o defender_n if_o he_o think_v good_a to_o stand_v to_o his_o promise_n conjure_v his_o holiness_n by_o our_o crucify_a lord_n etc._n etc._n to_o give_v he_o authority_n
prove_v prove_v 14._o by_o confession_n of_o protestant_n by_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o four_o age._n of_o the_o four_o general_n council_n of_o origen_n and_o st._n methodius_n the_o defender_n affect_v misapplication_n of_o the_o word_n prayer_n prayer_n 15._o no_o scripture_n against_o the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n saint_n 16._o catholic_n imitate_v the_o scripture_n phrase_n phrase_n 17._o the_o word_n merit_v equivocal_a and_o often_o misapply_v by_o the_o defender_n defender_n 18._o the_o use_n of_o it_o in_o our_o prayer_n conformable_a to_o the_o language_n of_o holy_a writ_n ib._n article_n iu_o image_n and_o relic_n pag._n 25._o i._o the_o benefit_n of_o image_n image_n 19_o 1._o to_o inform_v the_o ignorant_a 2._o to_o increase_v devotion_n 3._o to_o persuade_v to_o a_o good_a life_n 4._o a_o holy_a imitation_n 5._o to_o increase_v our_o reverence_n and_o respect_n ii_o no_o danger_n of_o idolatry_n now_o from_o the_o use_n of_o image_n image_n 20._o from_o the_o nature_n of_o christianity_n and_o the_o nature_n of_o idolatry_n idolatry_n 21._o iii_o objection_n answer_v answer_v 22._o 1._o from_o st._n thomas_n of_o aquin._n aquin._n 23._o 2._o the_o pontifical_a pontifical_a 24._o the_o use_n of_o incense_n and_o holy-water_n very_o antient._n 3._o good-fryday_n office._n office._n 25._o 4._o the_o church_n hymn_n hymn_n 26._o of_o relic_n relic_n 27._o we_o pray_v not_o to_o they_o nor_o to_o monument_n ib._n the_o defender_n render_v the_o council_n expression_n false_o we_o honour_v they_o and_o image_n as_o sacred_a utensil_n utensil_n 28._o article_n v._o pag._n 45._o of_o justification_n justification_n 29._o the_o catholic_a church_n false_o accuse_v ib._n justification_n and_o sanctification_n sanctification_n 30._o our_o justification_n be_v gratis_o gratis_o 31._o article_n vi_o of_o merit_n pag._n 49._o scholastic_a nicety_n to_o be_v avoid_v avoid_v 32._o the_o church_n doctrine_n art_fw-la vii_o sect._n 1._o pag._n 52._o of_o satisfaction_n satisfaction_n 34._o no_o satisfaction_n without_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n and_o merit_n of_o christ_n ib._n protestant_n grant_v more_o efficacy_n to_o a_o lord_n have_v mercy_n upon_o we_o than_o catholic_n to_o a_o plenary_a indulgence_n indulgence_n 35._o we_o believe_v or_o we_o suppose_v ought_v not_o to_o be_v a_o argument_n against_o our_o possession_n possession_n 36._o section_n ii_o of_o indulgence_n pag._n 55._o council_n have_v redress_v the_o abuse_n in_o they_o they_o 37._o we_o defend_v not_o practice_n which_o be_v neither_o necessary_o nor_o universal_o receive_v ibid._n our_o necessary_a tenet_n tenet_n 38._o no_o buy_a or_o sell_v of_o indulgence_n indulgence_n 39_o protestant_n indulgence_n sell_v in_o the_o spiritual_a court._n ib._n they_o give_v great_a power_n to_o a_o simple_a minister_n than_o catholic_n as_o catholic_n give_v to_o the_o pope_n pope_n 40._o what_o a_o jubilee_n be_v be_v 41._o section_n iii_o purgatory_n pag._n 59_o prove_v by_o two_o general_a council_n which_o proof_n comprehend_v scripture_n father_n tradition_n and_o universal_a practice_n practice_n 42._o no_o father_n nor_o scripture_n against_o it_o ib._n part_n ii_o article_n viii_o pag._n 60._o of_o the_o sacrament_n in_o general_n general_n 43._o article_n ix_o of_o baptism_n ibid._n lvtherans_n and_o those_o of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n hold_v baptism_n absolute_o necessary_a necessary_a 44._o whether_o child_n die_v without_o it_o have_v any_o part_n in_o christ_n ib._n the_o calvinist_n oppose_v this_o necessity_n necessity_n 45._o the_o defender_n mistake_v the_o bishop_n of_o condom_n and_o the_o argument_n ib._n article_n x._o of_o confirmation_n pag._n 63._o prove_v by_o father_n and_o scripture_n scripture_n 46._o 47._o the_o ceremony_n explicate_v explicate_v 48._o article_n xi_o pag._n 67._o of_o penance_n penance_n 49._o the_o church_n of_o england_n wish_v it_o be_v reestablish_v reestablish_v 50._o article_n xii_o of_o 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to_o be_v a_o sacrament_n from_o st._n paul_n and_o by_o the_o universal_a tradition_n both_o of_o the_o greek_a and_o latin_a church_n church_n 59_o not_o necessary_a for_o every_o one_o one_o 60._o article_n fourteen_o of_o holy_a order_n pag._n 80._o the_o defender_n allow_v it_o to_o be_v a_o particular_a sacrament_n sacrament_n 61._o his_o new_a evasion_n answer_v answer_v 62._o article_n xv._o xvi_o xvii_o xviii_o of_o the_o eucharist_n pag._n 83._o two_o hundred_o several_a sense_n put_v upon_o these_o four_o word_n hoc_fw-la est_fw-la corpus_fw-la meum_fw-la catholic_n follow_v the_o beat_a road_n protestant_n by-path_n by-path_n 63._o section_n i._o pag._n 84._o we_o and_o our_o adversary_n tenet_n tenet_n 64._o christ_n must_v be_v either_o real_o or_o only_o figurative_o present_a in_o the_o sacrament_n ib._n he_o may_v be_v real_o present_a after_o different_a manner_n manner_n 65._o all_o agree_v that_o he_o be_v moral_o present_a in_o the_o sacrament_n ib._n catholic_n 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say_v nor_o insinuate_v 3._o expos_fw-la sect._n 2._o pag._n 3._o nor_o so_o much_o as_o show_v it_o to_o be_v his_o opinion_n that_o the_o protestant_n hold_v all_o those_o article_n which_o catholic_o call_v fundamental_a but_o he_o who_o can_v find_v that_o in_o the_o bishop_n argument_n 5._o the_o vindicator_n sense_n pervert_v by_o the_o defender_n def._n pag._n 5._o can_v find_v also_o that_o i_o myself_o confess_v that_o the_o article_n which_o we_o hold_v and_o they_o contradict_v do_v by_o evident_a and_o undoubted_a consequence_n destroy_v those_o truth_n that_o be_v on_o both_o side_n agree_v to_o be_v fundamental_a i_o know_v not_o with_o what_o spectacle_n he_o read_v but_o i_o think_v any_o judicious_a reader_n will_v grant_v that_o i_o never_o say_v any_o such_o thing_n it_o be_v true_a i_o tell_v he_o 23._o vindic._n pa._n 23._o that_o be_v the_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n which_o he_o allege_v the_o plain_a and_o confess_v doctrine_n and_o
ex_fw-la eisdem_fw-la aut_fw-la percipimus_fw-la aut_fw-la in_o futurum_fw-la expectamus_fw-la sparow_v canon_n pag._n 282._o that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n do_v by_o the_o mouth_n of_o the_o apostle_n so_o far_o honour_v the_o name_n of_o the_o cross_n so_o odious_a to_o the_o jew_n that_o under_o it_o they_o do_v not_o only_o comprehend_v christ_n himself_o crucify_a but_o the_o force_n effect_n and_o merit_n of_o his_o death_n and_o passion_n with_o all_o the_o comfort_n fruit_n and_o promise_n which_o we_o receive_v or_o expect_v thereby_o but_o if_o by_o we_o and_o we_o he_o only_o mean_v himself_o and_o desire_v i_o to_o oblige_v he_o so_o much_o as_o to_o inform_v he_o what_o figure_n that_o be_v which_o make_v the_o cross_n signify_v christ_n i_o must_v send_v he_o to_o the_o aforesaid_a canon_n which_o i_o suppose_v he_o understand_v when_o he_o enter_v into_o the_o ministry_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n though_o he_o have_v now_o forget_v it_o neither_o let_v he_o say_v that_o he_o call_v for_o a_o figure_n which_o in_o the_o same_o place_n make_v the_o cross_n to_o signify_v christ_n in_o which_o it_o distinguish_v christ_n from_o the_o cross_n for_o he_o will_v not_o find_v our_o hymn_n any_o more_o guilty_a of_o that_o than_o the_o expression_n of_o st._n paul_n before_o mention_v in_o which_o he_o will_v find_v the_o forego_n nay_o in_o some_o of_o they_o the_o accompany_v word_n distinguish_v christ_n from_o the_o cross_n and_o yet_o according_a to_o his_o own_o thirty_o canon_n the_o holy_a ghost_n under_o the_o word_n cross_n do_v comprehend_v not_o only_a christ_n crucify_v but_o the_o force_n effect_n and_o merit_n of_o his_o death_n and_o passion_n etc._n etc._n but_o to_o examine_v more_o particular_o this_o hymn_n which_o he_o instance_n he_o former_o bogle_v only_o at_o the_o stroph_n o_o crux_n ave_fw-la spes_fw-la unica_fw-la 14._o exposit_n pag._n 14._o hail_o o_o cross_n our_o only_a hope_n etc._n etc._n in_o which_o as_o i_o then_o tell_v he_o it_o be_v manifest_v the_o church_n make_v her_o address_n to_o the_o cross_n with_o christ_n that_o be_v to_o christ_n crucify_a upon_o the_o cross_n hope_n christ_n our_o only_a hope_n as_o the_o word_n spes_fw-la unica_fw-la sufficient_o demonstrate_v for_o he_o will_v not_o have_v we_o certain_o to_o have_v two_o only_a hope_n neither_o will_v other_o sure_o whatsoever_o he_o do_v think_v we_o so_o silly_a as_o to_o make_v a_o formal_a prayer_n to_o a_o insensible_a thing_n but_o in_o vindication_n of_o himself_o he_o bring_v st._n thomas_n acknowledge_v the_o worship_n of_o latria_n due_a to_o the_o cross_n and_o prove_v it_o as_o he_o say_v from_o this_o hymn_n to_o which_o i_o have_v already_o answer_v and_o shall_v not_o here_o repeat_v it_o again_o and_o pick_v out_o at_o pleasure_n three_o other_o stroph_n of_o that_o hymn_n in_o which_o as_o he_o say_v the_o cross_n be_v distinguish_v from_o christ_n what_o if_o it_o be_v in_o those_o three_o stanza_n do_v it_o necessary_o follow_v that_o it_o be_v so_o in_o this_o too_o for_o my_o part_n i_o see_v no_o such_o consequence_n and_o must_v certain_o conclude_v that_o if_o the_o apostle_n do_v by_o the_o inspiration_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n comprehend_v christ_n and_o all_o the_o benefit_n of_o his_o passion_n under_o the_o word_n cross_n the_o church_n which_o be_v also_o teach_v by_o the_o same_o holy_a spirit_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v censure_v for_o the_o same_o of_o relic_n as_o for_o relic_n 27._o relic_n 27._o we_o be_v call_v here_o to_o a_o verbal_a disputation_n and_o because_o veneration_n worship_n and_o adoration_n be_v frequent_o confound_v in_o our_o author_n he_o endeavour_v from_o several_a of_o they_o to_o justify_v his_o translate_n of_o the_o word_n venerari_fw-la in_o the_o conncil_n of_o trent_n by_o worship_n in_o his_o exposition_n i_o do_v not_o love_v to_o prolong_v dispute_n and_o therefore_o shall_v ready_o give_v he_o leave_v to_o use_v the_o word_n worship_n upon_o condition_n that_o he_o take_v it_o in_o the_o sense_n of_o those_o author_n who_o understand_v no_o more_o than_o a_o honour_n or_o veneration_n which_o we_o pay_v to_o the_o sacred_a remain_n of_o those_o saint_n who_o be_v once_o the_o temple_n of_o the_o live_a god_n and_o not_o a_o worship_n or_o adoration_n take_v in_o its_o strict_a sense_n only_o i_o must_v tell_v he_o that_o we_o do_v not_o seek_v to_o those_o sacred_a monument_n for_o the_o obtain_n of_o their_o help_n and_o assistance_n monument_n no_o prayer_n to_o relic_n or_o monument_n as_o he_o very_o false_o insinuate_v from_o the_o council_n and_o now_o to_o justify_v himself_o make_v use_n of_o as_o great_a a_o piece_n of_o scholarship_n as_o can_v well_o be_v parallel_v i_o tell_v he_o that_o the_o word_n of_o the_o council_n be_v that_o they_o who_o affirm_v that_o no_o ●●●eration_n or_o honour_n be_v due_a to_o the_o relic_n of_o saint_n or_o that_o those_o relic_n and_o other_o sacred_a monument_n be_v unprofitable_o honour_v by_o the_o faithful_a or_o that_o they_o the_o faithful_n do_v in_o vain_a frequent_a the_o memory_n of_o the_o saint_n to_o the_o end_n they_o may_v obtain_v their_o aid_n the_o aid_n of_o the_o saint_n eorum_n be_v whole_o to_o be_v condemn_v as_o the_o church_n do_v now_o and_o have_v former_o condemn_v they_o but_o alas_o it_o seem_v i_o do_v not_o understand_v the_o latin_a or_o else_o i_o have_v a_o mind_n to_o cavil_v for_o he_o tell_v his_o reader_n my_o citation_n of_o the_o word_n of_o the_o council_n be_v only_o a_o trick_n to_o deceive_v those_o who_o understand_v it_o only_o in_o my_o translation_n that_o i_o transpose_v the_o latin_a on_o purpose_n to_o raise_v a_o dust_n to_o deceive_v the_o reader_n the_o true_a order_n be_v plain_o as_o he_o before_o render_v it_o so_o that_o they_o who_o shall_v affirm_v that_o no_o worship_n or_o honour_n be_v due_a to_o the_o relic_n of_o saint_n or_o that_o these_o and_o the_o like_a sacred_a monument_n be_v 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prove_v in_o the_o end_n if_o to_o lessen_v the_o reputation_n of_o a_o unknown_a obscure_a adversary_n i_o shall_v do_v that_o which_o shall_v lose_v i_o my_o own_o soul._n but_o real_o i_o must_v desire_v this_o gentleman_n to_o cast_v once_o more_o his_o eye_n upon_o the_o latin_a and_o see_v whether_o of_o we_o two_o have_v render_v it_o right_n in_o english_a for_o my_o own_o part_n in_o his_o own_o word_n i_o thank_v god_n my_o religion_n need_v not_o such_o defence_n ibid._n ibid._n nor_o will_v i_o ever_o have_v use_v those_o mean_n to_o assert_v it_o if_o it_o do_v i_o be_v always_o teach_v that_o no_o evil_n be_v to_o be_v do_v though_o for_o a_o good_a end_n nor_o be_v i_o ever_o bring_v up_o in_o any_o school_n that_o esteem_v the_o interest_n of_o the_o church_n so_o sacred_a as_o to_o be_v able_a to_o sanctify_v the_o worst_a of_o mean_n that_o can_v be_v make_v use_n of_o to_o promote_v it_o i_o have_v indeed_o hear_v some_o roman_a catholic_o accuse_v as_o if_o they_o teach_v such_o doctrine_n but_o i_o always_o find_v the_o galumny_n stand_v at_o the_o accuser_n door_n who_o art_n be_v only_o to_o cry_v whore_n first_o and_o as_o for_o the_o defender_n i_o hope_v if_o he_o be_v convince_v he_o have_v do_v i_o and_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n i_o may_v say_v also_o the_o catholic_a church_n a_o injury_n in_o this_o he_o will_v perform_v his_o promise_n and_o think_v himself_o indispensable_o oblige_v to_o make_v a_o public_a acknowledgement_n of_o it_o and_o thank_v the_o vindicator_n that_o have_v call_v he_o to_o so_o necessary_a a_o duty_n i_o appeal_v then_o to_o any_o jury_n of_o scholar_n in_o the_o world_n whether_o when_o i_o translate_v these_o word_n ita_fw-la ut_fw-la affirmantes_fw-la eorum_n opis_fw-la impetranda_fw-la causâ_fw-la memorias_fw-la
they_o now_o adventure_v to_o say_v that_o be_v thing_n clear_o state_v and_o distinguish_v one_o from_o another_o the_o difference_n between_o we_o consider_v only_o in_o the_o idea_n will_v not_o be_v very_o grow_v a_o and_o that_o they_o can_v safe_o allow_v whatsoever_o monsieur_n de_fw-fr meaux_n have_v advance_v upon_o this_o point_n provide_v it_o be_v will_n and_o right_o explain_v and_o he_o have_v advance_v nothing_o but_o what_o be_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o council_n of_o tront_n the_o expositor_n and_o i_o be_v agree_v in_o most_o thing_n justification_n thing_n 30_o sanctification_n and_o justification_n only_o i_o tell_v he_o i_o think_v he_o will_v be_v hard_o put_v to_o it_o to_o prove_v the_o distinction_n betwixt_o justification_n and_o sanctification_n to_o be_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n and_o that_o he_o impose_v upon_o we_o when_o he_o affirm_v we_o so_o to_o make_v our_o inward_a righteousness_n a_o part_n of_o justification_n that_o by_o consequence_n we_o say_v our_o justification_n itself_o be_v wrought_v by_o out_o good_a work_n to_o the_o first_o it_o appear_v indeed_o he_o be_v hard_o put_v to_o it_o when_o he_o be_v force_v to_o a_o deduction_n how_o clear_a let_v other_o judge_v from_o their_o 11_o and_o 12_o article_n and_o from_o the_o homily_n of_o salvation_n which_o as_o he_o cite_v it_o call_v the_o forgiveness_n of_o sin_n justification_n but_o do_v not_o say_v that_o justification_n be_v only_o the_o remission_n of_o our_o sin_n which_o be_v his_o undertake_n but_o have_v i_o tell_v he_o of_o the_o little_a less_o than_o contradiction_n he_o fall_v under_o in_o that_o place_n he_o will_v have_v see_v the_o difficulty_n of_o get_v clear_a for_o have_v tell_v we_o before_o that_o they_o confess_v with_o m._n de_fw-fr meaux_n 19_o expos_fw-la pag._n 19_o that_o the_o righteousness_n of_o jesus_n christ_n be_v not_o only_o impute_v but_o actual_o communicate_v to_o the_o faithful_a he_o here_o tell_v we_o 20._o pag._n 20._o they_o believe_v their_o sin_n be_v pardon_v only_o through_o the_o merit_n of_o christ_n impute_v to_o we_o nay_o though_o he_o tell_v we_o their_o church_n by_o justification_n understand_v only_o the_o remission_n of_o sin_n contradiction_n contradiction_n and_o by_o sanctification_n the_o production_n of_o the_o habit_n of_o righteousness_n in_o we_o yet_o within_o two_o line_n he_o tell_v we_o that_o this_o remission_n of_o sin_n be_v only_o give_v to_o those_o that_o repent_v and_o that_o they_o who_o repent_v be_v those_o in_o who_o the_o hoty_a ghost_n produce_v the_o grace_n of_o sanctification_n for_o a_o true_a righteousness_n and_o holiness_n of_o life_n which_o be_v just_a as_o much_o as_o to_o say_v we_o distinguish_v justification_n and_o sanctification_n but_o no_o man_n can_v be_v justifiel_n unless_o he_o be_v also_o sanctify_v that_o our_o sin_n be_v pardon_v only_o through_o the_o merit_n of_o christ_n impute_v to_o we_o but_o that_o his_o merit_n be_v not_o only_o impute_v but_o actudl_o communieat_v to_o we_o he_o will_v oblige_v we_o if_o he_o please_v to_o tell_v we_o how_o these_o agree_v as_o also_o how_o the_o doctrine_n of_o their_o 11_o article_n 95._o we_o be_v account_v righteous_a before_o god_n only_o for_o the_o merit_n of_o our_o lord_n and_o saviour_n j._n christ_n by_o faith_n and_o not_o for_o our_o own_o work_n and_o deserve_n wherefore_o that_o we_o be_v justify_v by_o faith_n only_o be_v a_o wholesomt_a doctrine_n and_o very_o full_a of_o comfost_n art._n 11._o sparrow_n canon_n pag._n 95._o that_o we_o be_v justify_v by_o faith_n only_o be_v consistent_a with_o what_o he_o tell_v we_o pag._n 19_o of_o his_o exposition_n that_o none_o of_o those_o thing_n which_o precede_v our_o justification_n whether_o our_o faith_n or_o our_o good_a work_n can_v merit_v this_o grace_n and_o what_o he_o sum_n up_o pag._n 21._o that_o christ_n die_v and_o by_o that_o death_n satisfy_v the_o justice_n of_o god_n for_o we_o god_n therefore_o through_o the_o merit_n of_o his_o son_n free_o forgive_v we_o all_o our_o sin_n and_o offer_v we_o a_o covenant_n of_o mercy_n and_o grace_n by_o this_o covenant_n found_v only_o upon_o the_o death_n and_o merit_n of_o christ_n he_o send_v we_o his_o holy_a spirit_n and_o call_v we_o powerful_o to_o repentance_n if_o we_o awake_v and_o answer_v this_o call_n than_o god_n by_o his_o free_a goodness_n justify_v we_o that_o be_v he_o pardon_v our_o sin_n past_a give_v we_o grace_n more_o and_o more_o to_o fulfil_v his_o commandment_n from_o time_n to_o time_n and_o if_o we_o persevere_v in_o this_o cavenant_n crown_v we_o final_o with_o eternal_a life_n thus_o far_o he_o but_o be_v awake_v and_o answer_v to_o his_o call_n be_v persevere_v in_o his_o covenant_n no_o good_a work_n and_o if_o these_o be_v necessary_a to_o have_v god_n free_o justify_v we_o and_o grow_v we_o with_o eternal_a life_n how_o be_v we_o i_o pray_v justify_v by_o faith_n only_o as_o for_o the_o other_o part_n in_o which_o i_o tell_v he_o 31._o he_o 31._o he_o impose_v upon_o ●s_n as_o if_o we_o make_v our_o inward_a righteousness_n a_o part_n of_o our_o justification_n and_o so_o by_o consequence_n say_v that_o our_o justification_n itself_o be_v wrought_v also_o by_o our_o good_a work_n imposition_n a_o false_a imposition_n do_v he_o think_v that_o i_o tell_v he_o he_o impose_v upon_o we_o when_o he_o affirm_v that_o we_o comprehend_v under_o the_o notion_n of_o justification_n not_o only_o the_o remission_n of_o sin_n but_o also_o the_o production_n of_o that_o inherent_a righteousness_n which_o they_o call_v sanctification_n no_o the_o imposition_n do_v notilie_o in_o that_o part_n of_o the_o proposition_n 8._o our_o justification_n be_v gratis_o gratis_o autem_fw-la justificari_fw-la ideo_fw-la dicamur_fw-la quia_fw-la nihileorum_fw-la quae_fw-la justificationem_fw-la praeccdunt_fw-la sive_fw-la fides_fw-la sive_fw-la opera_fw-la ipsam_fw-la justi_n 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as_o to_o the_o three_o that_o of_o ephesus_n s._n prosper_n tell_v we_o it_o be_v assemble_v by_o the_o authority_n of_o pope_n celestine_n and_o the_o industry_n of_o cyril_n who_o he_o appoint_v to_o preside_v in_o his_o place_n and_o with_o his_o authority_n and_o concern_v the_o four_o that_o of_o chalcedon_n not_o to_o mention_v the_o emperor_n and_o his_o sister_n pulcheria_n letter_n to_o pope_n leo_n in_o order_n to_o the_o call_n of_o it_o his_o legate_n in_o the_o very_a first_o act_n accuse_v a._n accuse_v judicii_fw-la svi_fw-la necesse_fw-la est_fw-la cum_fw-la dare_v rationem_fw-la quia_fw-la cum_fw-la nec_fw-la personam_fw-la judicandi_fw-la haberet_fw-la subvepsit_fw-la &_o synodum_fw-la ousns_fw-la est_fw-la steer_n sine_fw-la avihoritate_fw-la sedis_fw-la apostolicae_fw-la quod_fw-la nunquam_fw-la rite_n factum_fw-la est_fw-la nec_fw-la fieri_fw-la lionit_fw-la summa_fw-la conc._n tem._n 1._o pag._n 246._o b._n a._n dioscorus_n patriarch_n of_o alexandria_n for_o call_v a_o synod_n without_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o apostolic_a see_v which_o they_o say_v never_o be_v right_o do_v nor_o be_v lawful_a to_o be_v do_v which_o accusation_n they_o will_v certain_o never_o have_v bring_v nor_o will_v the_o council_n have_v admit_v of_o it_o have_v they_o themselves_o be_v guilty_a of_o the_o same_o or_o if_o it_o have_v not_o be_v at_o that_o time_n a_o constant_a and_o know_a practice_n that_o his_o consent_n and_o approbation_n be_v necessary_a according_a to_o the_o ancient_a canon_n and_o custom_n f._n custom_n aug._n epist_n 91._o athan._n apol._n 2._o p._n 575.1.1_o apud_fw-la cons_n conc._n y●ent_a y●ent_a 45._o secrat_fw-mi l._n 2._o c._n 13._o p._n 247_o c._n soz._n l._n 3._o c._n 7._o p._n 466._o f._n nothing_o be_v to_o be_v determine_v without_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n last_o to_o remove_v the_o least_o scruple_n in_o this_o point_n it_o be_v manifest_v the_o council_n of_o trent_n be_v call_v by_o the_o pope_n as_o the_o learned_a author_n of_o the_o etc._n the_o the_o 80_o etc._n etc._n consideration_n of_o the_o council_n observe_v after_o have_v first_o have_v the_o consent_n nay_o after_o much_o solicitation_n and_o importunity_n as_o 81._o as_o lib._n 6._o pag._n 551._o apud_fw-la consid_fw-la conc._n trid._n trid._n 81._o soave_fw-it ses_fw-fr of_o the_o emperor_n and_o all_o other_o christian_a prince_n except_v those_o that_o be_v protestant_n and_o henry_n the_o 8_o who_o be_v the_o much_o less_o number_n be_v either_o to_o be_v conclude_v by_o the_o contrary_a vote_n of_o the_o rest_n or_o else_o there_o can_v never_o be_v any_o general_a council_n hereafter_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o see_v christianity_n be_v now_o divide_v into_o so_o many_o sovereign_a and_o independent_a state_n and_o no_o heresy_n can_v ever_o need_v the_o remedy_n of_o a_o general_n council_n but_o such_o as_o have_v get_v the_o patronage_n of_o some_o christian_a prince_n if_o every_o such_o prince_n be_v allow_v a_o negative_a voice_n against_o the_o rest_n there_o will_v never_o want_v some_o or_o other_o who_o extravagance_n in_o religion_n will_v make_v he_o averse_a from_o such_o assembly_n which_o he_o can_v but_o foresee_v will_n condemn_v and_o out-vote_n his_o party_n 8.12_o soave_fw-it p._n 8.12_o nay_o moreover_o it_o be_v call_v by_o he_o after_o the_o protestant_a prince_n have_v declare_v a_o great_a necessity_n of_o it_o and_o luther_n and_o his_o party_n have_v appeal_v to_o it_o the_o second_o exception_n which_o the_o defender_n make_v against_o this_o council_n be_v answer_v be_v 128._o his_o second_o exception_n that_o it_o be_v not_o free_a answer_v that_o it_o be_v not_o free_a because_o those_o who_o have_v most_o to_o say_v in_o the_o defence_n of_o the_o truth_n dare_v not_o appear_v at_o trent_n be_v sufficient_o forewarn_v by_o what_o other_o have_v late_o suffer_v in_o a_o like_a oase_n at_o constance_n how_o often_o have_v our_o author_n be_v show_v that_o this_o pretence_n be_v nul_fw-fr and_o the_o council_n of_o sonstance_n that_o of_o trent_n and_o the_o whole_a catholic_a church_n vindicate_v from_o that_o odious_a imputation_n of_o believe_v that_o faith_n and_o plight_v promise_n be_v not_o to_o be_v keep_v with_o heretic_n have_v the_o defender_n peruse_v our_o moral_a divine_n as_o well_o as_o controvertist_n he_o will_v have_v find_v it_o to_o be_v a_o catholic_a doctrine_n that_o faith_n be_v as_o much_o to_o be_v keep_v to_o heretic_n insidel_n heathen_n enemy_n nay_o even_a subject_n in_o rebellion_n prince_n have_v at_o such_o time_n part_v with_o their_o own_o right_n as_o to_o catholic_o themselves_o in_o all_o respect_n and_o that_o no_o exception_n be_v make_v but_o such_o as_o judicious_a protestant_n grant_v aught_o to_o be_v make_v even_o betwixt_o themselves_o as_o where_o the_o faith_n give_v be_v not_o absolute_a but_o conditional_a and_o that_o condition_n be_v not_o perform_v or_o if_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o faith_n 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death_n ever_o claim_v the_o privilege_n of_o such_o a_o safe_a conduct_n or_o accuse_v any_o of_o the_o breach_n of_o it_o how_o often_o have_v it_o be_v make_v manifest_a 15._o haec_fw-la s●ncta_fw-la sign_n thus_fw-mi johan_n husse_o attente_fw-la quod_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la dei_fw-la non_fw-la habecat_fw-la ultra_fw-la quid_fw-la gerere_fw-la valeat_fw-la judicio_fw-la saeculari_fw-la relinquere_fw-la &_o ipsum_fw-la curiae_fw-la saeculari_fw-la relinquendum_fw-la fore_fw-la decernit_fw-la sess_n 15._o that_o if_o any_o fault_n be_v here_o commit_v it_o be_v by_o the_o secular_a power_n and_o not_o the_o ecclesiastical_a for_o the_o church_n proceed_v not_o to_o the_o sentence_n of_o death_n but_o after_o her_o have_v convict_v they_o of_o heresy_n or_o schism_n turn_v they_o over_o as_o she_o do_v husse_v to_o the_o secular_a power_n so_o that_o if_o the_o secular_a power_n have_v give_v he_o a_o safe_a conduct_n not_o only_o from_o violence_n but_o from_o the_o execution_n of_o 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167._o be_v 129._o his_o three_o exception_n against_o
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that_o it_o establish_v the_o pope_n authority_n i_o have_v already_o mention_v that_o the_o second_o general_n council_n that_o of_o constantinople_n be_v call_v by_o the_o a._n the_o bin._n tom._n 1._o conc._n p._n 667._o a._n pope_n authority_n and_o this_o b._n this_o can._n 3._o bin._n tom._n 1._o conc._n p._n 661._o b._n council_n ordain_v that_o the_o patriarch_n of_o consiantinople_n shall_v have_v prime_a honour_n after_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n the_o three_o general_n council_n that_o of_o ephesus_n b._n ephesus_n bin._n tom._n 2._o conc._n p._n 282._o b._n depose_v nestorius_n as_o they_o say_v compel_v by_o the_o sacred_a canon_n and_o the_o epistle_n of_o pope_n celestine_n and_o refer_v the_o more_o difficult_a case_n of_o john_n d._n john_n ibid._n pag._n 353._o d._n patriarch_n of_o antioch_n to_o the_o pope_n the_o four_o beside_o what_o i_o have_v already_o mention_v that_o they_o admit_v ●he_v accusation_n bring_v against_o b._n against_o bin._n tom_n 3_o conc._n 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exempt_a from_o such_o jurisdiction_n they_o will_v have_v unanimous_o oppose_v it_o in_o some_o of_o the_o succeed_a general_n council_n after_o they_o have_v see_v such_o epistle_n from_o the_o pope_n challenge_v that_o authority_n but_o we_o find_v they_o so_o far_o from_o this_o that_o his_o plea_n be_v admit_v in_o those_o very_a council_n and_o not_o the_o least_o opposition_n make_v from_o what_o i_o have_v already_o say_v it_o will_v appear_v how_o easy_a a_o thing_n it_o may_v be_v to_o show_v he_o in_o the_o primitive_a father_n and_o council_n what_o be_v give_v by_o all_o catholic_n at_o present_a to_o his_o holiness_n or_o challenge_v by_o he_o as_o of_o necessary_a faith._n as_o to_o the_o pope_n be_v style_v universal_a bishop_n he_o know_v that_o st._n gregory_n the_o great_a decline_v that_o title_n in_o one_o sense_n though_o he_o challenge_v it_o in_o another_o that_o be_v he_o look_v not_o upon_o himself_o as_o universal_a bishop_n in_o this_o sense_n as_o if_o 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meaning_n of_o it_o be_v this_o true_o wheaten_a bread_n remain_v such_o be_v also_o true_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n i_o grant_v it_o for_o as_o i_o tell_v he_o before_o from_o the_o cardinal_n it_o imply_v a_o contradiction_n for_o it_o can_v possible_o be_v that_o one_o thing_n shall_v not_o be_v change_v and_o yet_o shall_v be_v another_o because_o it_o will_v be_v that_o thing_n and_o not_o that_o thing_n but_o if_o he_o mean_v by_o his_o major_n that_o the_o word_n this_o in_o that_o proposition_n this_o be_v my_o body_n have_v such_o a_o reference_n to_o bread_n that_o the_o meaning_n be_v this_o bread_n be_v my_o body_n that_o be_v this_o substance_n of_o bread_n which_o i_o take_v in_o my_o hand_n i_o do_v by_o these_o word_n change_v into_o the_o substance_n of_o my_o body_n i_o deny_v it_o neither_o be_v it_o our_o common_a concession_n for_o in_o that_o sense_n it_o be_v neither_o a_o absurdity_n nor_o impossibility_n to_o understand_v the_o proposition_n literal_o so_o 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