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particular_a churckes_n may_v reform_v especial_o when_o a_o general_a council_n can_v be_v expect_v 15_o chap._n v._o we_o not_o guilty_a of_o schism_n the_o guilt_n of_o the_o breach_n lie_v on_o the_o romanist_n 20_o chap._n vi_o how_o necessity_n of_o divide_v communion_n arise_v 24_o chap._n vii_o sectary_n can_v make_v the_o plea_n that_o we_o do_v 28_o chap._n viii_o of_o the_o use_n of_o reason_n and_o judgement_n in_o private_a man_n 31_o chap._n ix_o of_o dissent_v from_o the_o public_a judgement_n 35_o chap._n x._o possibility_n of_o just_a dissent_v 39_o chap_n xi_o how_o far_o the_o romanist_n leave_v man_n the_o use_n of_o their_o reason_n and_o judgement_n 47_o chap._n xii_o of_o know_v the_o church_n by_o the_o mark_n of_o eminency_n perpetuity_n etc._n etc._n 51_o chap._n xiii_o our_o way_n open_v not_o a_o gap_n to_o sectary_n 57_o chap._n fourteen_o the_o romanist_n vain_a pretence_n of_o infallibility_n 63_o chap._n xv._o divide_v from_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v not_o a_o divide_n from_o the_o catholic_n 66_o chap._n xvi_o the_o greek_a church_n a_o church_n and_o part_n of_o the_o catholic_n 69_o chap._n xvii_o of_o agreement_n and_o external_a communion_n betwixt_o the_o part_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n 73_o chap._n xviii_o the_o want_n of_o that_o do_v not_o always_o make_v guilty_a of_o schism_n 75_o chap._n xix_o our_o case_n and_o that_o of_o the_o donatist_n not_o alike_o 78_o chap._n xx._n of_o hell-gate_n not_o prevail_v against_o the_o church_n 82_o chap._n xxi_o of_o the_o trial_n of_o doctrine_n by_o scripture_n 91_o chap._n xxii_o sufficient_a perfection_n of_o the_o scripture_n as_o a_o rule_n 95_o chap._n xxiii_o of_o tradition_n which_o we_o allow_v 96_o chap._n xxiv_o their_o argument_n against_o scripture_n sufficiency_n and_o for_o tradition_n 103_o chap._n xxv_o the_o evidence_n of_o antiquity_n in_o the_o point_n 114_o chap._n xxvi_o of_o the_o perspicuity_n and_o interpretation_n of_o scripture_n 119_o chap._n xxvii_o of_o a_o visible_a infallible_a judge_n or_o interpreter_n 125_o chap._n xxviii_o of_o certainty_n of_o belief_n and_o whether_o they_o or_o we_o have_v better_a mean_n for_o it_o 146_o chap._n xxix_o of_o the_o other_o rule_n of_o trial_n by_o consent_n of_o antiquity_n and_o the_o romanist_n vain_a boast_n of_o the_o father_n 157_o chap._n xxx_o application_n of_o the_o rule_n to_o their_o doctrine_n in_o several_a pâ—ints_n 161_o chap._n xxxi_o card_n perron_n two_o rule_n for_o know_v who_o and_o what_o be_v catholic_n according_a to_o antiquity_n 179_o the_o end_n of_o the_o table_n ¶_o a_o catalogue_n of_o some_o book_n print_v for_o richard_n royston_n at_o the_o angel_n in_o ivy-lane_n by_o h._n ferne_n d._n d._n episcopacy_n and_o presbytery_n consider_v in_o 4o._o a_o sermon_n preach_v at_o the_o isle_n of_o wight_n before_o his_o majesty_n in_o 4o._o now_o in_o the_o press_n a_o compendious_a discourse_n upon_o the_o case_n as_o it_o stand_v between_o the_o church_n of_o england_n and_o of_o rome_n on_o the_o one_o side_n and_o again_o between_o the_o same_o church_n of_o england_n and_o those_o congregation_n which_o of_o what_o persuasion_n soever_o have_v divide_v from_o it_o on_o the_o other_o side_n part_n i._o in_o 12o._o