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A36261 Two short discourses against the Romanists by Henry Dodwell ... Dodwell, Henry, 1641-1711. 1676 (1676) Wing D1825; ESTC R1351 55,174 261

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reformation_n do_v by_o act_n of_o parliament_n reformation_n may_v be_v consider_v two_o way_n either_o 1._o as_o preach_v and_o impose_v under_o pain_n of_o spiritual_a censure_n and_o of_o exclusion_n from_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o church_n and_o a_o deprivation_n of_o all_o the_o privilege_n consequent_a to_o that_o communion_n and_o this_o be_v certain_o the_o right_n of_o the_o church_n and_o be_v according_o practise_v by_o the_o church_n in_o our_o english_a reformation_n 2._o as_o enact_v as_o a_o law_n of_o the_o land_n and_o consequent_o as_o urge_v the_o same_o way_n as_o other_o law_n be_v under_o temporal_a penalty_n and_o external_a coercion_n and_o encourage_v by_o temporal_a advantage_n and_o this_o be_v undoubted_o the_o right_n of_o the_o secular_a power_n and_o this_o be_v all_o in_o which_o the_o secular_a power_n do_v concern_v itself_o in_o the_o reformation_n what_o i_o can_v further_o foresee_v in_o favour_n of_o our_o adversary_n be_v that_o 1._o the_o secular_a power_n ought_v in_o conscience_n to_o be_v herein_o advise_v by_o the_o ecclesiastic_n and_o 2._o that_o though_o external_a obedience_n may_v be_v pay_v to_o the_o mistake_a decree_n of_o the_o secular_a power_n follow_v the_o mistake_a part_n of_o the_o ecclesiastic_n yet_o the_o obligation_n in_o conscience_n and_o right_n of_o such_o decree_n must_v be_v derive_v from_o the_o justice_n of_o the_o church_n proceed_n in_o advise_v the_o magistrate_n so_o that_o no_o act_n of_o the_o magistrate_n can_v make_v amends_o for_o any_o essential_a defect_n in_o the_o proceed_n of_o the_o church_n but_o the_o only_a effect_n of_o the_o magistrate_n concurrence_n in_o that_o case_n be_v that_o what_o be_v already_o perform_v without_o heresy_n or_o schism_n in_o the_o church_n may_v be_v by_o that_o mean_v settle_v in_o such_o a_o particular_a commonwealth_n without_o schism_n or_o sedition_n in_o the_o state_n and_o therefore_o see_v they_o suppose_v that_o at_o the_o reformation_n the_o great_a number_n of_o the_o bishop_n then_o be_v be_v overawe_v and_o deprive_v of_o the_o liberty_n of_o their_o vote_n by_o the_o secular_a magistrate_n and_o it_o be_v the_o nature_n of_o all_o society_n to_o be_v sway_v by_o the_o great_a part_n therefore_o they_o may_v think_v it_o unreasonable_a to_o ascribe_v the_o reformation_n to_o the_o church_n of_o england_n but_o only_o to_o a_o schismatical_a part_n of_o it_o so_o that_o the_o magistrate_n have_v attempt_v this_o reformation_n without_o warrant_n from_o the_o church_n they_o think_v they_o do_v well_o to_o call_v our_o reformation_n itself_o parliamentary_a to_o this_o therefore_o i_o reply_v 1._o that_o the_o use_n we_o make_v of_o this_o topick_n of_o the_o magistrate_n concurrence_n be_v indeed_o no_o other_o than_o to_o clear_v our_o reformation_n from_o be_v seditious_a which_o be_v ordinary_o charge_v on_o we_o by_o our_o adversary_n and_o much_o more_o ordinary_o on_o the_o foreign_a protestant_n 2._o that_o for_o clear_v the_o very_a proceed_n of_o the_o magistracy_n from_o be_v heretical_a or_o schismatical_a to_o the_o conscience_n of_o the_o magistracy_n itself_o it_o be_v sufficient_a that_o the_o magistracy_n give_v its_o assistance_n and_o protection_n to_o no_o other_o church_n but_o such_o as_o at_o least_o according_a to_o the_o genuine_a dictate_v of_o their_o conscience_n be_v neither_o heretical_a nor_o schismatical_a but_o this_o justification_n of_o the_o private_a conscience_n of_o the_o magistracy_n be_v i_o confess_v a_o thing_n we_o be_v at_o present_a not_o so_o necessary_o concern_v for_o and_o therefore_o 3._o we_o grant_v far_o that_o for_o satisfy_v our_o own_o conscience_n of_o the_o justice_n of_o these_o proceed_n of_o the_o magistracy_n it_o be_v requisitethat_o we_o be_v satisfy_v that_o they_o be_v advise_v by_o that_o part_n of_o the_o clergy_n who_o advice_n we_o conceive_v they_o ought_v to_o have_v follow_v so_o that_o if_o this_o may_v appear_v in_o the_o case_n we_o be_v speak_v of_o this_o and_o this_o alone_a will_v be_v a_o sufficient_a vindication_n of_o the_o magistrate_n proceed_n to_o the_o conscience_n of_o its_o subject_n 4._o therefore_o the_o determination_n of_o the_o justice_n of_o the_o advice_n follow_v by_o the_o magistrate_n may_v be_v resolve_v two_o way_n either_o from_o the_o merit_n of_o the_o cause_n or_o from_o the_o legal_a authority_n and_o right_o the_o person_n may_v be_v presume_v to_o have_v to_o be_v consult_v on_o such_o occasion_n as_o for_o the_o former_a it_o be_v in_o the_o present_a case_n the_o principal_a dispute_n whether_o the_o reformation_n undertake_v by_o the_o magistrate_n be_v right_a or_o not_o and_o therefore_o very_o unfit_a to_o be_v rely_v on_o as_o a_o presumption_n to_o prove_v the_o magistrate_n proceed_n irregular_a the_o late_a therefore_o only_o be_v proper_a to_o be_v insist_v on_o here_o and_o it_o consist_v of_o two_o charge_n that_o by_o the_o law_n of_o the_o land_n the_o magistrate_n ought_v to_o have_v be_v advise_v by_o the_o bishop_n then_o possess_v of_o the_o several_a see_v and_o that_o in_o advise_v with_o the_o clergy_n whoever_o they_o be_v he_o ought_v to_o have_v allow_v they_o the_o liberty_n of_o speak_v their_o mind_n and_o to_o have_v be_v sway_v by_o the_o great_a part_n these_o thing_n be_v conceive_v so_o necessary_a as_o that_o the_o magistrate_n not_o observe_v they_o may_v be_v presume_v to_o act_v as_o no_o way_n influence_v by_o the_o clergy_n which_o be_v the_o reason_n why_o they_o call_v our_o reformation_n wherein_o they_o suppose_v they_o not_o observe_v parliamentary_a 1._o therefore_o as_o to_o the_o legal_a right_n of_o the_o popish_a clergy_n to_o advise_v the_o secular_a magistrate_n two_o thing_n may_v be_v reply_v 1._o that_o this_o legal_a right_n may_v be_v forfeit_v by_o the_o person_n by_o their_o personal_a misdemeanour_n and_o of_o this_o forfeiture_n the_o secular_a magistrate_n himself_o be_v the_o proper_a judge_n and_o that_o this_o be_v exact_o the_o popish_a bishop_n case_n at_o that_o time_n 2._o that_o the_o consideration_n of_o this_o legal_a right_n be_v of_o no_o use_n for_o satisfy_v the_o conscience_n of_o their_o subject_n which_o yet_o be_v the_o only_a use_n that_o be_v seasonable_a for_o this_o occasion_n 2._o as_o for_o the_o canonical_a freedom_n to_o be_v allow_v they_o in_o advise_v and_o the_o obligation_n of_o the_o magistrate_n to_o follow_v the_o advice_n of_o the_o great_a part_n these_o canonical_a right_n can_v only_o satisfy_v the_o conscience_n of_o their_o own_o communion_n but_o can_v be_v pretend_v necessary_a to_o be_v observe_v where_o there_o be_v different_a communion_n for_o 1._o the_o romanist_n themselves_o never_o allow_v that_o freedom_n to_o person_n out_o of_o their_o communion_n as_o be_v plain_a in_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n and_o still_o appear_v on_o all_o occasion_n 2._o especial_o in_o particular_a national_a church_n as_o we_o be_v they_o themselves_o will_v not_o deny_v that_o the_o great_a part_n may_v prove_v heretical_a and_o therefore_o likely_a to_o prevail_v by_o plurality_n of_o vote_n in_o which_o case_n themselves_o will_v notwithstanding_o think_v it_o unequal_a for_o the_o magistrate_n to_o be_v sway_v by_o they_o 3._o this_o have_v always_o be_v the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n and_o the_o catholic_n emperor_n never_o to_o allow_v any_o canonical_a right_n to_o the_o assembly_n and_o censure_n of_o heretic_n as_o athanasius_n be_v restore_v first_o by_o maximinus_n bishop_n of_o trier_n then_o by_o pope_n julius_n after_o that_o by_o maximus_n bishop_n of_o jerusalem_n and_o at_o last_o by_o the_o emperor_n jovinian_a without_o any_o canonical_a revocation_n of_o the_o synod_n that_o have_v condemn_v he_o many_o instance_n of_o the_o like_a nature_n may_v be_v give_v 4._o the_o popish_a clergy_n have_v give_v the_o first_o precedent_n of_o this_o liberty_n themselves_o in_o refuse_v to_o admit_v of_o the_o canonical_a appeal_n of_o the_o protestant_n from_o the_o pope_n to_o a_o free_a general_n council_n finis_fw-la exom_a second_o edition_n sect._n 1_o ch._n 19_o §._o 4._o p._n 74._o sect._n 2._o ch._n 21._o §._o 3._o p._n 188._o append._n ch._n 5._o §._o 2._o p._n 516._o see_v verons_n lat._n answ._n to_o q._n gener._n 8._o p._n 561._o at_o the_o end_n of_o the_o exom_a exom_a sect._n 1_o chap._n 16._o §._o 3._o p._n 58._o sect._n 2._o ch._n 21._o §._o 4._o p._n 190._o sect._n 2._o ch._n 3._o p._n 90._o white_n be_v tab._n suffrag_v as_o the_o florentine_a council_n etc._n etc._n as_o of_o constance_n etc._n etc._n answ._n to_o q._n 4._o pag._n 86._o dr._n stillingfleet_n supposition_n supposition_n supposition_n feb._n 25._o 1569._o proposition_n proposition_n proposition_n prop._n 1._o 2_o 3_o 4._o 4._o 4._o prop._n 6._o 6._o 6._o prop._n 1_o 2._o 2._o 2._o prop._n 3._o 3._o 3._o prop._n 7.8_o 9_o 10_o 11_o 12._o 12._o 12._o prop._n 13._o 13._o 13._o prop._n 14._o 14._o 14._o prop._n 15._o 15._o 15._o prop._n 16.17_o 18._o 18._o 18._o prop._n 19_o 19_o 19_o prop._n 21_o 23_o 24_o 24_o 24_o prop._n 20._o 20._o 20._o prop._n 22._o 22._o 22._o prop._n 22._o ep._n 188._o ad_fw-la mart._n mayer_n ep._n 72._o ad_fw-la stephfratr_n stephfratr_n stephfratr_n with_fw-mi consid._n of_o pres._n concern_v concern_v concern_v for_o the_o jesuit_n see_v the_o provine_n let●_n and_o the_o moral_a theolog._n of_o the_o jesuit_n and_o for_o the_o rest_n of_o that_o communion_n the_o jesuit_n defence_n of_o themselves_o by_o way_n of_o recremination_n against_o other_o vid._n ii_o 1_o 2._o exomolog_fw-la sect._n 2._o ch._n 16._o §._o 2._o p._n 162._o ed._n 2._o on_o 1_o cor._n iii_o 15._o vid._n q._n i._o §._o i._o