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A33770 Theophilus and Philodoxus, or, Several conferences between two friends the one a true son of the Church of England, the other faln off to the Church of Rome, concerning 1. praier in an unknown tongue, 2. the half communion, 3. the worshipping of images, 4. the invocation of saints / by Gilbert Coles. Coles, Gilbert, 1617-1676. 1674 (1674) Wing C5085; ESTC R27900 233,018 224

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the_o apostle_n practice_n and_o of_o the_o church_n for_o so_o many_o age_n the_o end_n and_o signification_n of_o the_o sacrament_n as_o we_o have_v manifest_v at_o large_a if_o you_o have_v weighty_a motive_n most_o of_o your_o doctor_n will_v not_o produce_v such_o as_o these_o and_o herein_o you_o do_v ingenious_o declare_v that_o the_o wit_n of_o man_n with_o all_o the_o advantage_n of_o human_a learning_n can_v speak_v a_o word_n of_o sense_n to_o justify_v your_o unreasonable_a practice_n against_o the_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n phil._n you_o make_v too_o much_o haste_n i_o have_v reserve_v the_o best_a argument_n to_o the_o last_o be_v there_o not_o reason_v the_o clergy_n shall_v have_v some_o pre-eminence_n above_o the_o people_n in_o these_o great_a mystery_n esset_fw-la mystery_n alias_o dignitas_fw-la sacerdot_n &_o i_o 〈…〉_o they_o pa●_n esset_fw-la the_o dignity_n of_o the_o clergy_n require_v this_o difference_n theoph._n their_o dignity_n appear_v in_o those_o 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the_o next_o chap._n of_o s._n paul_n to_o the_o colossian_n vers_fw-la 17._o the_o apostle_n
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