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A61458 The church of Rome not sufficiently defended from her apostacy, heresie, and schisme as appears by an answer to certain quæries, printed in a book entituled Fiat Lux, and sent transcribed (as 'tis suppos'd) from thence by a Romanist to a priest of the Church of England. Whereunto are annexed the Romanist's reply to the Protestant's Answer, and the Protestant's rejoynder to that reply. By P.S. D.D. Samways, Peter, 1615-1693. 1663 (1663) Wing S545B; ESTC R222361 39,609 116

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assign_v no_o employment_n to_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n but_o the_o administration_n of_o his_o own_o diocese_n certain_o if_o the_o first_o bishop_n of_o rome_n have_v succeed_v st._n peter_n in_o such_o a_o superiority_n as_o the_o romanist_n now_o contend_v for_o not_o only_o all_o other_o bishop_n but_o st._n john_n himself_o also_o must_v have_v acknowledge_v the_o pope_n to_o have_v be_v his_o diocesan_n which_o be_v to_o submit_v the_o supreme_a dignity_n of_o the_o apostolic_a authority_n institute_v immediate_o by_o christ_n to_o the_o limit_a jurisdiction_n of_o a_o particular_a see_v for_o such_o be_v the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n circumscription_n as_o we_o have_v show_v afore_o out_o of_o clemens_n his_o constitution_n that_o the_o pure_a age_n of_o the_o church_n have_v no_o such_o opinion_n of_o the_o pope_n universal_a jurisdiction_n be_v manifest_a by_o the_o eight_o canon_n of_o the_o famous_a council_n of_o ephesus_n frame_v for_o the_o vindicate_a of_o the_o bishop_n of_o cyprus_n their_o exemption_n from_o the_o encroachment_n of_o the_o patriarch_n of_o antioch_n who_o claim_v authority_n over_o they_o in_o the_o consecration_n of_o their_o metropolitan_a for_o when_o reginus_n bishop_n of_o constantia_n zenon_n bishop_n of_o curiun_n and_o euagrius_n bishop_n of_o sela_n all_o within_o the_o limit_n of_o cyprus_n make_v their_o complaint_n that_o the_o patriarch_n of_o antioch_n will_v subject_v their_o island_n to_o himself_o attempt_v to_o draw_v to_o he_o the_o power_n of_o ordination_n among_o they_o contrary_a to_o the_o ancient_a custom_n the_o canon_n of_o the_o apostle_n &_o the_o decree_n of_o the_o nicene_n council_n upon_o the_o hear_n of_o their_o cause_n they_o frame_v a_o canon_n the_o last_o of_o the_o eight_o recite_v by_o justellus_n wherein_o they_o exempt_v the_o cypriot_n from_o the_o usurpation_n they_o complain_v of_o and_o moreover_o without_o the_o least_o reservation_n o●_n privilege_n to_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n i●_n in_o this_o behalf_n add_v etc._n add_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n let_v the_o same_o course_n be_v observe_v in_o other_o diocese_n &_o in_o all_o province_n every_o where_o that_o none_o of_o the_o boly_n bishop_n seize_v upon_o another_o
these_o doctrine_n let_v the_o reply_o deny_v they_o if_o he_o please_v we_o shall_v congratulate_v his_o abrenunciation_n of_o such_o dangerous_a error_n but_o as_o long_o as_o we_o see_v they_o teach_v and_o practise_v by_o all_o the_o romish-communion_n we_o need_v not_o prove_v what_o they_o deny_v not_o be_v indeed_o so_o far_o oblige_v not_o to_o deny_v it_o as_o they_o be_v oblige_v to_o profess_v the_o trent-canon_n to_o assert_v a_o partial_a apostasy_n be_v not_o to_o confound_v it_o with_o heresy_n the_o word_n imply_v a_o ecesse_n or_o departure_n from_o what_o a_o church_n or_o person_n have_v sometime_o profess_v which_o heresy_n do_v not_o he_o that_o never_o acknowledge_v the_o truth_n can_v apostatise_v from_o it_o but_o he_o that_o heretical_o maintain_v opihion_n destructive_a to_o the_o christian_n faith_n may_v be_v call_v a_o heretic_n though_o he_o be_v never_o orthodox_n rome_n be_v apostatical_a in_o all_o the_o error_n which_o she_o now_o hold_v against_o the_o truth_n which_o she_o once_o profess_v it_o be_v not_o her_o mistake_n only_o in_o the_o truth_n but_o her_o dereliction_n of_o it_o when_o she_o affirm_v man_n to_o be_v justify_v not_o by_o faith_n alone_o but_o by_o work_n also_o for_o this_o she_o believe_v not_o but_o the_o contrary_a when_o st._n paul_n write_v to_o she_o and_o teach_v she_o the_o right_a belief_n rom_n 3.28_o and_o when_o st._n clemens_n govern_v she_o as_o appear_v by_o his_o epistle_n to_o the_o corinthian_n where_o he_o thus_o write_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 41._o the_o next_o thing_n the_o replyer_n conceive_v himself_o concern_v in_o be_v to_o prove_v that_o th●s_n enthymem_n or_o argument_n the_o pope_n have_v fall_v by_o heresy_n therefore_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v no_o valid_a way_n of_o reason_v and_o withal_o a_o extravagant_a controversy_n lead_v to_o a_o new_a dispute_n concern_v the_o pope_n infallibility_n ex_fw-la cathedrá_fw-fr the_o reply_a here_o be_v much_o mistake_v 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that_o obey_v not_o his_o decree_n if_o unlawful_a why_o be_v they_o excuse_v that_o err_v not_o with_o he_o nor_o be_v involve_v in_o his_o judgement_n when_o he_o teach_v error_n opposite_a to_o the_o christian_a faith_n may_v not_o a_o protestant_n as_o lawful_o dissent_v from_o the_o pope_n as_o a_o papist_n but_o sure_o the_o replyer_n upon_o better_a consideration_n will_v change_v his_o mind_n and_o as_o hart_n do_v in_o his_o conference_n with_o reynolds_n rather_o in_o despite_n of_o all_o evidence_n to_o to_o the_o contrary_a say_v the_o pope_n can_v err_v then_o plead_v that_o though_o he_o do_v yet_o the_o church_n be_v not_o bind_v to_o obey_v he_o and_o true_o if_o it_o be_v oblige_v to_o obey_v he_o how_o it_o can_v stand_v when_o he_o fall_v i_o see_v not_o it_o be_v pretend_v also_o by_o the_o replyer_n that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n in_o ascribe_v universal_a jurisdiction_n to_o the_o bishop_n of_o that_o see_v be_v not_o obnoxious_a to_o the_o fix_a canon_n of_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a and_o so_o not_o condem●ad_a by_o a_o general_n council_n to_o prove_v this_o he_o interpret_v the_o canon_n with_o a_o gloss_n that_o i_o think_v destroy_v the_o text._n i_o confess_v he_o have_v 13._o have_v de_fw-fr roman_n pontifice_fw-la lib_n 2._o c._n 13._o bellarmine_n for_o his_o author_n in_o this_o exposition_n who_o have_v cite_v four_o opinion_n concern_v those_o word_n in_o the_o canon_n because_o this_o be_v customary_a to_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n 〈◊〉_d rome_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d quia_fw-la et_fw-la episcope_n romano_n parilis_fw-la 〈◊〉_d will_v make_v the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n the_o efficient_a and_o not_o the_o example_n of_o the_o authority_n grant_v to_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o patriarch_n in_o this_o canon_n so_o that_o if_o bellarmine_n please_v the_o word_n in_o the_o canon_n because_o this_o be_v the_o custom_n to_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n shall_v import_v because_o it_o be_v the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n custom_n to_o 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his_o verdict_n in_o point_n of_o fact_n for_o the_o age_n wherein_o he_o write_v do_v not_o he_o in_o that_o form_n of_o supplication_n extant_a lib_n 8._o cap_n 10._o of_o the_o constitution_n sufficient_o declare_v that_o the_o bishop_n of_o of_o rome_n have_v his_o limit_n aswell_o as_o other_o bishop_n 10._o bishop_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d co._n s●it_fw-la lib._n 8._o c._n 10._o let_v we_o pray_v say_v he_o for_o the_o episcopacy_n of_o the_o whole_a world_n and_o for_o our_o bishop_n james_n of_o jerusalem_n and_o his_o diocese_n and_o for_o our_o bishap_n clement_n of_o rome_n and_o his_o diocese_n and_o for_o luod_n we_o of_o ant●och_n and_o his_o diocese_n let_v the_o reply_a he●e_n observe_v that_o clemens_n be_v not_o pray_v for_o as_o bishop_n of_o all_o the_o world_n but_o as_o a_o pastor_n over_o his_o own_o
limitation_n this_o may_v further_o appear_v from_o the_o usage_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n the_o doctor_n whereof_o will_v not_o have_v so_o far_o forget_v the●r_n duty_n in_o acknowledge_v this_o supremacy_n as_o to_o do_v action_n that_o clear_o evince_n that_o they_o conceive_v no_o such_o thing_n claimeable_a by_o any_o fair_a pretension_n whatsoever_o much_o less_o by_o divine_a institution_n if_o it_o have_v be_v always_o claim_v by_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n will_v st._n cyprian_n have_v call_v pope_n s●ephen_n his_o brother_n as_o he_o do_v in_o his_o epistle_n to_o pompeius_n wherein_o he_o charge_v he_o though_o i_o confess_v unjust_o for_o favour_v heretic_n have_v he_o esteem_v he_o the_o head_n of_o the_o church_n in_o the_o sense_n that_o the_o late_a time_n understand_v the_o word_n in_o will_v firmil_n arus_fw-la the_o bishop_n of_o coesarea_n have_v speak_v so_o liberal_o of_o the_o same_o stephen_n and_o have_v charge_v he_o with_o error_n ignorance_n pride_n 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