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these_o thing_n be_v so_o may_v we_o not_o just_o upbraid_v the_o papist_n as_o gregory_n nazianzen_n do_v the_o arrian_n arrian_n ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d &_o c_o where_o be_v they_o now_o who_o upbraid_v poverty_n unto_o we_o and_o boast_v of_o their_o wealth_n who_o define_v the_o church_n by_o multitude_n and_o despise_v the_o little_a flock_n of_o christ_n who_o honour_n the_o sand_n and_o reproach_v the_o great_a light_n of_o heaven_n who_o treasure_n up_o check-stone_n and_o pass_v by_o margarite_n the_o seven_o assertion_n when_o there_o be_v a_o difference_n between_o the_o visible_a professor_n of_o christianity_n and_o each_o party_n pretend_v itself_o to_o be_v the_o true_a church_n in_o opposition_n to_o the_o other_o the_o only_a sure_a and_o infallible_a mean_n to_o know_v which_o of_o the_o dissident_a party_n be_v of_o the_o true_a church_n be_v by_o try_v their_o doctrine_n by_o scripture_n to_o this_o touchstone_n of_o truth_n the_o prophet_n 20._o isaiah_n 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