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A41786 The quæries examined, or, Fifty anti-queries seriously propounded to the people called Presbyterians Occasioned by the publication of Fifty queries, gathered out of the works of Mr. Rich. Baxter. By J. B. Wherein the principal allegations usually brought to support infant-baptism are discovered to be insufficient. By T. G. Grantham, Thomas, 1634-1692. 1676 (1676) Wing G1543A; ESTC R223637 27,933 56

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unaware_o serve_v the_o design_n of_o the_o great_a enemy_n and_o whether_o you_o be_v not_o guilty_a of_o the_o fault_n wherewith_o you_o will_v charge_v we_o presbyterian_a 48._o whether_o too_o many_o well-meaning_a but_o weak_a christian_n be_v not_o disaffect_v to_o lawful_a and_o warrantable_a thing_n in_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n mere_o because_o they_o see_v such_o as_o be_v ungodly_a use_n and_o own_v they_o and_o whether_o if_o god_n shall_v but_o let_v we_o have_v a_o king_n and_o other_o ruler_n that_o be_v against_o infant-baptism_n and_o sing_v of_o psalm_n etc._n etc._n and_o will_v make_v law_n for_o their_o own_o way_n and_o impose_v it_o on_o other_o so_o that_o the_o ungodly_a multitude_n shall_v fall_v in_o with_o they_o it_o will_v not_o present_o cure_v many_o that_o be_v now_o for_o such_o opinion_n baptist_n antiqu._n 48._o whether_o many_o but_o weak_a christian_n will_v hold_v to_o the_o errou●_n of_o infant-sprinkling_a but_o mere_o because_o j._n b._n and_o mr._n baxter_n etc._n etc._n do_v so_o and_o whether_o this_o be_v not_o as_o much_o weakness_n of_o the_o one_o hand_n as_o the_o case_n put_v by_o you_o on_o the_o other_o and_o whether_o both_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v amend_v and_o whether_o the_o latter_a part_n of_o this_o query_n do_v not_o show_v that_o to_o follow_v the_o great_a number_n be_v not_o always_o the_o best_a way_n and_o why_o then_o will_v you_o discourage_v we_o by_o our_o paucity_n and_o whether_o such_o consideration_n may_v not_o have_v discourage_v the_o apostle_n see_v they_o be_v to_o alter_v the_o state_n of_o religion_n in_o the_o jewish_a church_n yea_o throughout_o the_o whole_a world_n presbyterian_a query_n 49._o whether_o mr._n baxter_n in_o the_o second_o and_o three_o part_n of_o that_o his_o second_o defence_n of_o our_o infant_n right_n have_v not_o sufficient_o detect_v the_o great_a and_o notorious_a untruth_n in_o fact_n and_o history_n wherewith_o mr._n h._n d._n treatise_n of_o baptism_n and_o reply_v to_o mr._n willes_n be_v full_o stuff_v baptist_n antiqu_n 49._o whether_o mr._n d._n and_o mr._n tomb_n have_v not_o sufficient_o detect_v mr._n baxters_n mistake_n in_o many_o of_o his_o work_n 〈◊〉_d infant-baptism_n and_o particular_o in_o mr._n tomb_n his_o felo_fw-la de_fw-la se_fw-la also_o whether_o mr._n will_v exception_n against_o mr._n d._n be_v not_o well_o foil_v by_o mr._n d._n in_o his_o twofold_a defence_n of_o his_o treatise_n of_o baptism_n and_o whether_o mr._n baxter_n do_v ever_o yet_o or_o ever_o will_v accept_v of_o mr._n tomb_n his_o serious_a challenge_n late_o make_v in_o these_o word_n i_o challenge_v he_o to_o set_v down_o distinct_o his_o thesis_n concern_v the_o grace_n he_o mean_v the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n what_o and_o who_o it_o be_v how_o it_o be_v bap_n iswal_n what_o be_v the_o right_n and_o benefit_n confer_v to_o infant_n by_o it_o use_v word_n in_o their_o proper_a sense_n and_o genuine_a notion_n and_o then_o without_o question_n exclamation_n flirt_n supposition_n improve_v set_v down_o his_o scripture_n and_o form_v his_o argument_n substantial_o ---_o and_o than_o i_o doubt_v not_o but_o learned_a and_o accurate_a disputant_n will_v see_v his_o folly_n etc._n etc._n postscript_n to_o mr._n d._n second_o reply_v p._n 267._o presbyterian_a query_n 50._o whether_o the_o anabaptist_n schism_n or_o separation_n from_o communion_n with_o our_o church_n be_v not_o worse_o yet_o than_o their_o simple_a opinion_n and_o whether_o it_o be_v not_o desirable_a and_o possible_a that_o some_o may_v be_v find_v out_o and_o term_n lay_v down_o in_o which_o good_a and_o sober_a man_n on_o both_o side_n will_v agree_v and_o hold_v communion_n baptist._n antiqu._n 50._o whether_o the_o papist_n may_v not_o on_o fair_a ground_n query_n thus_o with_o the_o protestantt_n than_o you_o can_v do_v with_o we_o especial_o when_o the_o cause_n you_o manage_v against_o we_o be_v so_o doubtful_a in_o the_o judgement_n of_o its_o best_a friend_n as_o we_o show_v in_o our_o preface_n and_o here_o we_o shall_v further_o add_v what_o mr._n y._n note_n in_o his_o first_o reply_n p._n 126._o mr._n chillingworth_n say_v he_o in_o his_o answer_n to_o knot_n be_v charity_n maintain_v part_n 1._o c._n 3._o §_o 44._o p._n 152._o say_v the_o doctrine_n of_o infant-baptism_n be_v of_o that_o sort_n of_o which_o the_o scripture_n be_v silent_a and_o the_o oxford-divines_a in_o their_o reason_n os_fw-la the_o present_a judgement_n of_o the_o university_n etc._n etc._n june_n 1._o 1674._o do._n sect_n 4._o p._n 9_o say_v that_o without_o the_o consent_n judgement_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n which_o they_o distinguish_v from_o the_o scripture_n they_o shall_v be_v at_o a_o loss_n when_o they_o be_v call_v upon_o for_o proof_n of_o the_o baptise_v infant_n now_o this_o consider_v with_o what_o dr._n taylor_n say_v dissuasive_a from_o popery_n p._n 118._o that_o it_o be_v certain_a there_o be_v no_o 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