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A62870 Præcursor, or, A forerunner to a large review of the dispute concerning infant-baptism wherein many things both doctrinall and personal are cleared, about which Mr. Richard Baxter, in a book mock-titled Plain Scripture-proof of infants church-membership and baptism hath darkned the truth / by John Tomes. Tombes, John, 1603?-1676. 1652 (1652) Wing T1812; ESTC R27540 101,567 110

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