Selected quad for the lemma: church_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
church_n	communion_n	member_n	schism_n	3,619	5	9.7876	5	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A62859	An addition to the Apology for the two treatises concerning infant-baptisme, published December 15, 1645 in which the author is vindicated from 21 unjust criminations in the 92 page of the book of Mr. Robert Baille, minister of Glasgow, intituled Anabaptisme and sundry materiall points concerning the covenant, infants-interest in it, and baptisme by it, baptism by an unbaptized person, dipping, erastianism and church-government, are argued, in a letter, now enlarged, sent in September 1647, to him / by John Tombes . ..	Tombes, John, 1603?-1676.	1652 (1652)	Wing T1794; ESTC R11324	36,211	48

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apparatus_fw-la de_fw-la primatu_fw-la papae_fw-la pag._n 148._o 〈◊〉_d primatu_fw-la papae_fw-la part_n 1._o cap._n 1._o that_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n be_v {non-roman}_o {non-roman}_o {non-roman}_o {non-roman}_o {non-roman}_o ●urati●_z oversight_n not_o potestas_fw-la magistracy_n empire_n and_o this_o methinks_v best_a suit_n with_o the_o scripture_n 1_o thess._n 5._o 12._o 1_o tim._n 3._o 5._o heb._n 13._o 7_o 17._o 1_o peter_n 5._o 2_o 3._o sect._n xxi_o of_o the_o one_o and_o twenty_o crimination_n that_o i_o hold_v that_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n belong_v to_o the_o magistrate_n only_o you_o add_v further_o that_o i_o say_v that_o the_o govern_n of_o the_o church_n belong_v to_o the_o magistrate_n only_o and_o to_o such_o who_o he_o appoint_v to_o that_o service_n by_o virtue_n of_o a_o commission_n flow_v from_o himself_o and_o for_o proof_n hereof_o you_o refer_v the_o reader_n to_o the_o letter_n q_o q_o page_n 113._o where_o you_o cite_v a_o 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this_o you_o also_o charge_v i_o false_o sect._n xxii_o of_o my_o new_a way_n and_o boldness_n there_o be_v some_o other_o thing_n in_o your_o book_n wherein_o you_o abuse_v i_o as_o pag._n 91._o in_o your_o margin_n and_o table_n when_o you_o put_v mr._n ●ombes_n new_a way_n and_o when_o you_o say_v that_o at_o this_o time_n when_o so_o many_o new_a way_n be_v in_o hand_n i_o have_v think_v meet_a to_o make_v a_o hotchpotch_n of_o many_o of_o they_o together_o which_o be_v a_o mere_a reproachful_a or_o scoffical_a calumny_n as_o if_o what_o i_o write_v i_o do_v it_o out_o of_o a_o design_n to_o make_v a_o new_a way_n of_o my_o own_o whereas_o what_o i_o have_v say_v i_o be_v necessitate_v to_o it_o as_o i_o show_v in_o my_o apology_n and_o be_v do_v in_o pursuance_n of_o the_o covenant_n and_o shall_v have_v be_v take_v with_o the_o right_a hand_n by_o man_n that_o be_v desirous_a to_o find_v out_o truth_n especial_o from_o one_o that_o you_o term_v learned_a and_o with_o all_o his_o 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