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A57857 The good old way defended against the attempts of A.M. D.D. in his book called, An enquiry into the new opinions, (chiefly) propogated by the Presbyterians of Scotland : wherein the divine right of the government of the church by Presbyters acting in parity, is asserted, and the pretended divine right of the hierarchie is disproved, the antiquity of parity and novelty of Episcopacy as now pleaded for, are made manifest from scriptural arguments, and the testimony of the antient writers of the Christian-church, and the groundless and unreasonable confidence of some prelatick writers exposed : also, the debates about holy-days, schism, the church-government used among the first Scots Christians, and what else the enquirer chargeth us with, are clearly stated, and the truth in all these maintained against him : likewise, some animadversions on a book called The fundamental charter of Presbytery, in so far as it misrepresenteth the principles and way of our first reformers from popery, where the controversie about superintendents is fully handled, and the necessity which led our ancestors into that course for that time is discoursed / by Gilbert Rule ... Rule, Gilbert, 1629?-1701. 1697 (1697) Wing R2221; ESTC R22637 293,951 328

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time_n it_o may_v arise_v from_o some_o sinful_a infirmity_n that_o they_o as_o all_o man_n be_v be_v subject_a to_o good_a man_n may_v be_v zealous_a for_o their_o own_o opinion_n because_o they_o take_v they_o to_o be_v the_o truth_n of_o god._n the_o father_n be_v call_v several_a practice_n schism_n and_o show_v a_o great_a dislike_n of_o they_o all_o as_o 1._o they_o blame_v divide_v from_o the_o universal_a church_n as_o schism_n and_o there_o be_v many_o thing_n wherein_o man_n may_v be_v blame_v under_o this_o head_n which_o i_o shall_v not_o now_o mention_v it_o be_v my_o work_n at_o present_a only_o to_o inquire_v into_o the_o opinion_n of_o the_o father_n in_o this_o matter_n i_o find_v they_o be_v not_o of_o my_o adversary_n opinion_n in_o this_o many_o thing_n he_o make_v a_o heavy_a outcry_n about_o and_o blame_v people_n for_o as_o schismatic_n and_o sectary_n which_o they_o lay_v no_o such_o stress_n on_o they_o bear_v with_o one_o another_o though_o they_o disser_v in_o rite_n and_o several_a custom_n they_o do_v not_o fall_v out_o about_o what_o they_o count_v indifferent_a but_o maintain_v peace_n and_o concord_n notwithstanding_o of_o different_a practice_n in_o one_o church_n from_o another_o euseb._n lib._n 5._o c._n 23._o cit_v irenaeus_n reprove_v victor_n of_o rome_n where_o usurpation_n and_o impose_v on_o other_o early_a begin_v for_o excommunicate_v other_o church_n which_o keep_v not_o easter_n on_o the_o same_o day_n with_o he_o and_o he_o set_v before_o he_o some_o difference_n between_o polycarpus_n and_o annicetus_fw-la so_o as_o neither_o can_v persuade_v the_o other_o to_o be_v of_o his_o mind_n and_o yet_o they_o do_v love_o communicate_v together_o the_o word_n of_o iren._n as_o eusebius_n have_v they_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n some_o think_v they_o shall_v
contention_n of_o priest_n and_o bishop_n basilius_n magnus_n cite_v by_o the_o same_o author_n p._n 27._o make_v a_o observation_n that_o among_o man_n of_o other_o employment_n there_o be_v much_o concord_n in_o sol●_n vero_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la dei_fw-la pro_fw-la qua_fw-la christus_fw-la est_fw-la mortuus_fw-la &_o in_o quam_fw-la spiritum_fw-la sanctum_fw-la abunde_fw-la &_o opulent_a ●ffudit_n maximum_fw-la dissidium_fw-la &_o vehementem_fw-la multorum_fw-la tum_fw-la inter_fw-la ipsos_fw-la tum_fw-la contra_fw-la divinam_fw-la scripturam_fw-la dissentionem_fw-la obs●rvari_fw-la &_o quod_fw-la horrendissimum_fw-la est_fw-la ipsos_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la pr●sides_fw-la in_o tanto_fw-la &_o animi_fw-la &_o opinionum_fw-la inter_fw-la se_fw-la dissidio_fw-la constitutos_fw-la tantaque_fw-la contrarietate_fw-la mandatis_fw-la domini_fw-la repugnantes_fw-la ecclesicam_fw-la dei_fw-la crudeliter_fw-la dissipare_fw-la &_o gregem_fw-la ipsius_fw-la absque_fw-la ull●_n commiseratione_n perturbare_fw-la ut_fw-la &_o ipsis_fw-la nunc_fw-la si_fw-la unquam_fw-la prodeuntibu●_n &_o florentibus_fw-la iniquis_fw-la impleatur_fw-la illud_fw-la apostoli_fw-la ex_fw-la vobis_fw-la ipsis_fw-la exsurgent_fw-la viri_fw-la perversa_fw-la loquentes_fw-la ut_fw-la abstra●ant_fw-la post_fw-la se_fw-la discipulos_fw-la the_o learned_a owen_n of_o apostasy_n p._n 500_o observe_v that_o the_o scandalous_a division_n among_o christian_n especial_o among_o their_o leader_n be_v the_o first_o step_n of_o the_o visible_a degeneracie_n of_o christian_n and_o afterward_o because_o the_o sport_n of_o the_o heathen_a §_o 7._o the_o unity_n of_o associated_n church_n who_o be_v govern_v in_o common_a to_o which_o government_n that_o of_o the_o several_a congregation_n be_v subordinate_a consist_v especial_o in_o the_o agreement_n of_o the_o rule_n in_o their_o meeting_n for_o manage_n the_o public_a and_o common_a affair_n of_o the_o church_n and_o each_o member_n submit_v to_o what_o be_v determine_v by_o common_a consent_n of_o the_o plurality_n whether_o it_o be_v injunction_n reproof_n or_o censure_n the_o breach_n of_o this_o unity_n be_v when_o any_o one_o or_o more_o of_o that_o rule_a society_n take_v on_o they_o to_o oppose_v or_o contradict_v what_o be_v determine_v as_o abovesaid_a much_o more_o when_o they_o do_v that_o by_o themselves_o which_o shall_v have_v be_v do_v by_o the_o whole_a as_o when_z foelicissimus_fw-la and_o some_o other_o of_o the_o presbyter_n of_o carthage_n absolve_v some_o of_o the_o lapse_v neglect_v cyprian_n the_o bishop_n or_o praeses_fw-la and_o the_o body_n of_o the_o presbyter_n which_o cyprian_n do_v high_o and_o just_o resent_v or_o when_o they_o or_o any_o of_o the_o people_n refuse_v subjection_n to_o the_o just_a decision_n of_o the_o church_n ruler_n assemble_v this_o sort_n of_o schism_n be_v much_o of_o the_o same_o nature_n with_o what_o follow_v i_o insist_v no_o further_o on_o it_o for_o it_o be_v the_o same_o thing_n as_o to_o church_n unity_n whether_o any_o minister_n of_o the_o church_n rebel_n against_o the_o bishop_n if_o that_o be_v the_o right_a government_n of_o the_o church_n or_o against_o the_o synod_n presbytery_n classical_a or_o congregational_a if_o that_o be_v the_o way_n that_o christ_n have_v appoint_v yea_o it_o be_v the_o same_o breach_n of_o unity_n to_o set_v up_o another_o bishop_n beside_o the_o true_a bishop_n of_o the_o church_n or_o a_o new_a synod_n or_o presbytery_n beside_o these_o which_o one_o be_v before_o a_o member_n of_o or_o subject_a to_o yea_o or_o to_o gather_v a_o church_n and_o to_o set_v up_o a_o minister_n and_o meeting_n in_o a_o parish_n beside_o what_o be_v orderly_o there_o settle_v wherefore_o the_o last_o sort_n of_o unity_n or_o schism_n be_v that_o which_o belong_v to_o a_o particular_a congregational_a church_n this_o unity_n if_o we_o take_v schi●m_n in_o a_o large_a sense_n be_v break_v by_o diversity_n either_o of_o opinion_n or_o affection_n among_o the_o member_n of_o the_o church_n when_o they_o disagreee_v and_o manage_v their_o difference_n with_o strife_n and_o contention_n even_o though_o there_o be_v no_o separation_n in_o their_o public_a exercise_n of_o religion_n at_o corinth_n there_o be_v such_o a_o schism_n they_o come_v together_o and_o yet_o the_o apostle_n say_v there_o be_v division_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d among_o they_o but_o schism_n in_o the_o church_n be_v of_o old_a and_o now_o be_v take_v in_o a_o more_o restrain_a sense_n for_o a_o causeless_a separation_n from_o the_o church_n in_o the_o public_a exercise_n of_o religion_n either_o by_o withdraw_v only_o or_o by_o set_v up_o another_o religious_a society_n also_o this_o the_o father_n express_v sometime_o by_o rebellion_n against_o the_o bishop_n or_o withdraw_v from_o he_o that_o be_v deny_v due_a subjection_n to_o the_o pastor_n of_o that_o church_n and_o obedience_n to_o he_o with_o the_o presbytery_n so_o it_o be_v sometime_o express_v by_o they_o but_o even_o when_o the_o presbytery_n or_o church_n be_v not_o name_v it_o be_v so_o to_o be_v understand_v and_o the_o bishop_n be_v so_o often_o name_v because_o he_o be_v in_o these_o time_n the_o constant_a praeses_fw-la of_o their_o meeting_n and_o even_o this_o praelation_n though_o without_o sole_a jurisdiction_n into_o which_o it_o do_v at_o last_o issue_n begin_v early_o to_o be_v too_o much_o take_v notice_n of_o as_o i_o have_v more_o full_o show_v elsewhere_o §_o 8._o i_o shall_v first_o show_v that_o schism_n be_v often_o yea_o ordinary_o thus_o understand_v by_o the_o ancient_n next_o that_o they_o do_v not_o always_o blame_v this_o disobedience_n and_o separation_n as_o a_o sinful_a schism_n but_o allow_v it_o to_o be_v do_v in_o some_o case_n and_o for_o some_o cause_n for_o the_o former_a cyprian_a in_o many_o place_n condemn_v this_o as_o schism_n ep._n 40._o §_o 4._o edit_fw-la 1593._o deus_fw-la unus_fw-la est_fw-la &_o christus_fw-la unus_fw-la &_o una_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la &_o cat●edra_n una_fw-la super_fw-la petrum_fw-la domini_fw-la voce_fw-la fundata_fw-la aliud_fw-la altar_n constitui_fw-la aut_fw-la sacerdotium_fw-la novum_fw-la fieri_fw-la praeter_fw-la unum_fw-la altar_n &_o unum_fw-la sacerdotium_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la quisquis_fw-la alibi_fw-la collegerit_fw-la spargit_fw-la adulterium_fw-la est_fw-la impium_fw-la est_fw-la quodcunque_fw-la humano_fw-la furore_fw-la instituitur_fw-la ut_fw-la dispositio_fw-la divina_fw-la violetur_fw-la here_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o he_o speak_v of_o separate_n from_o the_o church_n also_o ep._n 55._o §_o 6._o neque_fw-la enim_fw-la aliunde_fw-la nata_fw-la sunt_fw-la schismata_fw-la quam_fw-la unde_fw-la quod_fw-la sacerdoti_fw-la dei_fw-la non_fw-la obtemperatur_fw-la nec_fw-la unus_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la ad_fw-la tempus_fw-la sacerdos_n &_o ad_fw-la tempus_fw-la judex_n vice_fw-la christi_fw-la cogitatur_fw-la this_o also_o point_v at_o desert_v the_o lawful_a pastor_n of_o the_o church_n and_o set_v up_o a_o meeting_n in_o opposition_n to_o he_o and_o the_o church_n what_o he_o say_v of_o one_o priest_n and_o one_o judge_n can_v be_v mean_v that_o the_o presbyter_n be_v no_o priest_n for_o that_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o know_a sentiment_n of_o cyprian_a but_o it_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v of_o one_o church_n authority_n in_o opposition_n to_o set_v up_o altar_n against_o altar_n likewise_o ep._n 64._o §_o 4._o h●_n sunt_fw-la ortus_fw-la atque_fw-la conatus_fw-la schismaticorum_fw-la male_a cogitantium_fw-la ut_fw-la sibi_fw-la placeant_fw-la ut_fw-la praepositum_fw-la superbo_fw-la tumore_fw-la contemnant_fw-la sic_fw-la de_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la receditur_fw-la sic_fw-la altar_n profanum_fw-la foris_fw-la collocatur_fw-la sic_fw-la contra_fw-la pacem_fw-la christi_fw-la &_o ordinationem_fw-la atque_fw-la unitatem_fw-la dei_fw-la rebellatur_fw-la other_o testimony_n to_o the_o same_o purpose_n may_v be_v bring_v ep._n 69._o §_o 7._o he_o call_v the_o church_n plebs_fw-la sacerdoti_fw-la unita_fw-la &_o pastori_fw-la svo_fw-la grex_n adhaerens_fw-la and_o ep._n 38._o §_o 1._o say_v of_o schismatic_n ●um_o episcopo_fw-la portionem_fw-la gregis_fw-la dividere_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la a_o pastore_n oves_fw-la &_o filios_fw-la a_o parent_n separare_fw-la &_o christi_fw-la membra_fw-la dissipare_fw-la and_o de_fw-fr unitate_fw-la eccles._n §_n 10._o he_o say_v of_o they_o conventicula_fw-la sibi_fw-la diversa_fw-la constituunt_fw-la so_o also_o ignat._n ad_fw-la madge_n nes_z p._n 32._o edit_fw-la vossii_n quarto_fw-la 1646._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d they_o conveen_v not_o firm_o that_o be_v it_o will_v not_o hold_v in_o law_n according_a to_o the_o command_n and_o ep._n ad_fw-la smyrn_n p._n 7._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d who_o do_v any_o thing_n viz._n in_o religious_a matter_n without_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o bishop_n that_o be_v in_o a_o parish_n without_o the_o pastor_n or_o in_o a_o presbytery_n without_o they_o orderly_o meet_v with_o their_o praeses_fw-la he_o serve_v the_o devil_n the_o second_o thing_n abovementioned_a be_v to_o show_v that_o there_o be_v some_o cause_n for_o which_o the_o ancient_n allow_v people_n to_o separate_v from_o their_o bishop_n or_o the_o church_n that_o they_o be_v member_n of_o i_o find_v but_o three_o expressie_a mention_v 1._o apostasy_n from_o the_o christian_a faith_n as_o in_o
the_o case_n of_o martialis_n and_o basilides_n who_o sacrifice_v to_o idol_n ep._n synodal_n apud_fw-la cyprian_n quae_fw-la est_fw-la 65._o §_o 1_o 3_o 4._o where_o after_o many_o word_n to_o this_o purpose_n be_v these_o propter_fw-la quod_fw-la plebs_fw-la obsequens_fw-la praeceptis_fw-la domini_fw-la &_o deum_fw-la metuens_fw-la a_o peccatore_fw-la praeposito_fw-la separare_fw-la se_fw-la debet_fw-la nec_fw-la se_fw-la ad_fw-la sacrilegi_fw-la sacerdotis_fw-la sacrificia_fw-la mis●ere_fw-la quando_fw-la ipsa_fw-la maxim_n habeat_fw-la potestatem_fw-la vel_fw-la eligendi_fw-la dignos_fw-la sacerdotes_fw-la vel_fw-la indignos_fw-la recusandi_fw-la a_o second_o cause_n be_v heresy_n irenae_n lib._n 1._o c._n 13._o opportet_fw-la long_o fugere_fw-la ab_fw-la eye_v speak_v of_o heretic_n origen_n homil._n 7._o in_o ezek._n allow_v one_o to_o separate_v from_o his_o bishop_n si_fw-mi habueris_fw-la say_v he_o occasionem_fw-la doctrinae_fw-la p●ssimae_fw-la &_o aliena_fw-la ab_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la dogmata_fw-la theodoret._n lib._n 1._o c._n 22._o tell_v we_o that_o at_o antioch_n many_o of_o the_o clergy_n and_o people_n withdraw_v and_o set_v up_o private_a assembly_n when_o three_o arrian_n bishop_n eulalius_n euphronius_n and_o placentius_n be_v set_v over_o they_o and_o lib._n 2._o c._n 24._o that_o they_o do_v the_o like_a when_o leontius_n who_o favour_v the_o arian_n be_v set_v up_o and_o that_o flavianus_n and_o diodorus_n take_v the_o charge_n vincent_n lyrin_fw-mi adversus_fw-la haer._n c._n 16_o relate_v of_o photinus_n bishop_n of_o sirmium_n a_o man_n of_o great_a ability_n that_o when_o the_o people_n discern_v his_o error_n quem_fw-la ante●_n quasi_fw-la arietem_fw-la greg●s_fw-la sequebantur_fw-la eundem_fw-la deinceps_fw-la veluti_fw-la lupum_fw-la fugere_fw-la coeperunt_fw-la three_o the_o scandalous_a and_o wicked_a life_n of_o a_o bishop_n which_o the_o word_n cite_v out_o of_o that_o synodal_n ep._n in_o cyprian_a a_o little_a above_o do_v plain_o bear_v and_o irenae_n lib._n 4._o c._n 44._o qui_fw-la vero_fw-la presbyteri_fw-la serviunt_fw-la suis_fw-la voluptatibus_fw-la &_o non_fw-la praeponunt_fw-la ●imorem_fw-la dei_fw-la in_o cordibus_fw-la suis_fw-la sed_fw-la contumeliis_fw-la agunt_fw-la reliquo●_n &_o principalis_fw-la confessionis_fw-la tumour_n elati_fw-la sunt_fw-la &_o in_o absconsis_fw-la agunt_fw-la mala_fw-la ab_fw-la omnibus_fw-la absistere_fw-la opportet_fw-la i_o shall_v not_o now_o determine_v whither_o this_o be_v sound_a doctrine_n if_o it_o be_v understand_v of_o people_n desert_v their_o pastor_n for_o his_o personal_a immorality_n before_o the_o sentence_n of_o a_o church_n judicatorie_a be_v interpose_v i_o only_o relate_v the_o opinion_n of_o the_o ancient_n origen_n indeed_o say_v homil._n 7._o in_o ezech._n that_o they_o shall_v not_o for_o his_o scandal_n desert_n the_o faith_n that_o he_o preach_v but_o he_o speak_v nothing_o of_o their_o desert_v his_o ministry_n nor_o contradict_v the_o 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