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lawful_a and_o just_a object_n of_o classical_a and_o synodall_n jurisdiction_n by_o proportion_n from_o the_o same_o rule_n matt._n 18._o if_o one_o member_n sin_n or_o suffer_v it_o become_v a_o common_a cause_n so_o far_o as_o it_o be_v know_v all_o the_o member_n suffer_v with_o it_o and_o take_v care_n for_o the_o redress_n of_o it_o in_o a_o particular_a church_n 1._o cor._n 12.25_o 26._o and_o if_o one_o church_n sin_n &_o be_v in_o danger_n it_o become_v a_o common_a cause_n all_o the_o church_n that_o be_v member_n of_o the_o same_o body_n especial_o those_o that_o be_v unite_v by_o covenant_n in_o a_o classical_a and_o synodall_n government_n be_v to_o take_v care_n for_o it_o and_o to_o seek_v help_n according_a to_o the_o quality_n of_o the_o danger_n thus_o the_o community_n of_o cause_n infer_v combination_n and_o further_o for_o that_o which_o he_o repeat_v again_o that_o this_o combination_n of_o church_n by_o accident_n be_v without_o subjection_n it_o be_v still_o to_o be_v remember_v that_o his_o meaning_n be_v without_o subjection_n to_o any_o one_o above_o the_o rest_n for_o so_o he_o again_o large_o explain_v himself_o in_o the_o same_o place_n giving_z instance_n in_o the_o church_n of_o carthage_n and_o in_o cyprian_a the_o bishop_n thereof_o maintain_v against_o d._n downam_n that_o cyprian_a be_v no_o metropolitan_a that_o the_o province_n be_v other_o as_o well_o as_o he_o that_o in_o the_o synod_n there_o hold_v there_o be_v a_o parity_n that_o the_o church_n be_v equal_o combine_v without_o subjection_n to_o any_o one_o that_o bishop_n &_o elder_n have_v equal_a power_n in_o give_v their_o suffrage_n v._o in_o set_v down_o the_o 5_o t_o argument_n 334._o argument_n p._n 334._o take_v from_o the_o outward_a manner_n of_o proceed_v which_o be_v by_o conference_n and_o communication_n of_o counsel_n he_o show_v withal_o that_o therein_o there_o be_v a_o exercise_n of_o jurisdiction_n when_o as_o in_o the_o word_n of_o cyprian_a he_o 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controversy_n that_o arise_v in_o the_o same_o and_o according_a to_o mr_n parker_n do_v exercise_v a_o lawful_a jurisdiction_n herein_o from_o this_o communication_n of_o church_n he_o come_v to_o speak_v 340._o speak_v ibid._n c._n 23._o p._n 345._o 340._o of_o their_o combination_n from_o whence_o arise_v a_o combine_a church_n derive_v from_o other_o church_n this_o combination_n he_o note_v to_o consist_v either_o of_o two_o or_o more_o church_n a_o instance_n of_o this_o combination_n of_o two_o he_o give_v in_o the_o synod_n at_o jerusalem_n act._n 15._o and_o say_v it_o be_v a_o council_n and_o synod_n and_o that_o proper_o and_o that_o of_o two_o church_n to_o wit_n of_o antioch_n and_o jerusalem_n for_o the_o messenger_n send_v from_o antioch_n be_v present_a which_o represent_v the_o church_n of_o antioch_n as_o be_v usual_a in_o counsel_n and_o notwithstanding_o a_o objection_n make_v against_o the_o church_n of_o antioch_n yet_o he_o say_v that_o church_n be_v also_o 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complain_v that_o church_n be_v bring_v into_o bondage_n and_o loose_v their_o liberty_n when_o they_o may_v not_o excommunicate_v without_o the_o consent_n of_o other_o mr_n parker_n answer_n be_v 349._o be_v p._n 349._o that_o the_o power_n of_o excommunication_n ordination_n and_o other_o jurisdiction_n remain_v pure_a in_o they_o save_v that_o communion_n which_o ought_v to_o be_v among_o church_n every_o church_n in_o great_a matter_n use_v the_o consent_n and_o counsel_n of_o her_o neighbour_n as_o of_o the_o classis_fw-la or_o eldership_n in_o the_o city_n quod_fw-la ego_fw-la ecclesiis_fw-la vel_fw-la perfectissimis_fw-la non_fw-la indigâ—um_fw-la reor_fw-la which_o i_o judge_v say_v he_o not_o to_o be_v unmeet_a even_o for_o the_o most_o perfect_a church_n thus_o he_o require_v not_o only_a counsel_n but_o consent_n of_o other_o church_n in_o weighty_a matter_n which_o be_v that_o we_o stand_v for_o this_o do_v not_o as_o he_o say_v 390._o say_v p._n 390._o import_v any_o 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quantum_fw-la peccat_fw-la hierarchia_fw-la quae_fw-la hanc_fw-la suavissimam_fw-la ecclesiarum_fw-la combinationem_fw-la eliminavit_fw-la that_o be_v all_o thing_n in_o our_o government_n and_o in_o our_o class_n be_v like_a unto_o these_o o_o how_o much_o do_v the_o hierarchy_n offend_v which_o have_v banish_v this_o most_o sweet_a combination_n of_o church_n and_o as_o well_o may_v we_o cry_v out_o o_o how_o much_o do_v the_o author_n of_o the_o single_a uncompounded_a policy_n offend_v who_o likewise_o seek_v to_o banish_v and_o overthrow_v this_o combination_n of_o church_n in_o class_n while_o they_o allow_v they_o only_o for_o counsel_n and_o regard_v not_o their_o consent_n but_o allow_v the_o church_n in_o combination_n to_o proceed_v in_o the_o weighty_a affair_n without_o or_o against_o the_o consent_n of_o class_n whereas_o it_o be_v object_v not_o only_o by_o my_o opposite_n but_o by_o some_o of_o the_o hierarchy_n themselves_o that_o these_o class_n do_v take_v unto_o themselves_o that_o jurisdiction_n which_o they_o seem_v to_o condemn_v in_o the_o hierarchy_n mr_n parker_n in_o his_o answer_n
voetius_fw-la last_o for_o that_o 29._o that_o case_n consc_fw-la l._n 4._o c._n 29._o place_n which_o mr_n can_v object_v out_o of_o d._n ames_n i_o acknowledge_v that_o there_o be_v something_o more_o find_v against_o the_o authority_n of_o synod_n then_o in_o any_o thing_n that_o mr_n dau._n have_v allege_v out_o of_o he_o but_o all_o that_o d._n ames_n there_o write_v be_v not_o easy_o to_o be_v admit_v for_o in_o that_o chap._n the_o question_n be_v make_v 11._o make_v ibid._n qu._n 11._o whether_o whole_a church_n or_o member_n of_o another_o church_n may_v be_v excommunicate_v he_o answer_v they_o can_v proper_o be_v excommunicate_v he_o bring_v 3_o reason_n 1._o because_o every_o church_n have_v communion_n in_o itself_o out_o of_o which_o it_o can_v no_o more_o be_v cast_v than_o out_o of_o itself_o but_o this_o reason_n be_v insufficient_a 1._o because_o though_o every_o church_n have_v communion_n in_o itself_o yet_o not_o only_o in_o itself_o and_o with_o itself_o but_o with_o other_o church_n also_o eph._n 4.4_o 5_o 6._o 1._o cor._n 12.13_o and_o by_o excommunication_n it_o may_v be_v deprive_v and_o cut_v off_o from_o that_o comfortable_a fellowship_n to_o the_o great_a grief_n terror_n and_o shame_n thereof_o for_o their_o humiliation_n thereby_o and_o for_o the_o warn_n of_o other_o 2._o because_o a_o obstinate_a and_o rebellious_a church_n by_o a_o sentence_n of_o excommunication_n may_v be_v cast_v out_o of_o itself_o and_o deprive_v of_o communion_n in_o itself_o either_o in_o the_o dissolution_n of_o that_o unlawful_a society_n while_o the_o magistrate_n help_v to_o execute_v the_o sentence_n or_o otherwise_o in_o make_v their_o communion_n abominable_a even_o unto_o their_o own_o conscience_n by_o the_o hand_n of_o god_n work_v with_o his_o own_o ordinance_n in_o deliver_v they_o to_o satan_n for_o the_o destruction_n of_o the_o flesh_n and_o deprive_v they_o of_o inward_a rest_n notwithstanding_o any_o pretend_a security_n of_o the_o 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into_o error_n &_o offence_n than_o it_o become_v subject_a to_o the_o other_o and_o the_o other_o have_v authority_n over_o it_o to_o rebuke_v &_o censure_v the_o same_o this_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v by_o proportion_n of_o two_o brethren_n member_n of_o one_o church_n though_o both_o of_o they_o be_v in_o their_o estate_n equal_a yet_o he_o that_o offend_v become_v subject_a to_o the_o other_o who_o thereupon_o have_v power_n over_o he_o in_o a_o degree_n of_o bind_v and_o lose_v a_o power_n of_o lose_v and_o forgive_a he_o if_o he_o repent_v a_o power_n of_o retain_v his_o sin_n and_o bind_v he_o over_o to_o further_a proceed_v if_o he_o do_v not_o repent_v luk._n 17.3_o 4._o with_o matt._n 18._o on_o this_o manner_n that_o general_a commandment_n of_o mutual_a subjection_n to_o one_o another_o 1._o pet._n 5.5_o ought_v to_o take_v place_n in_o two_o church_n as_o well_o as_o in_o two_o person_n his_o 3_o reason_n be_v because_o the_o member_n of_o one_o church_n be_v neither_o subject_n to_o the_o government_n of_o another_o neither_o do_v they_o belong_v immediate_o unto_o the_o communion_n of_o other_o church_n but_o by_o the_o communion_n of_o their_o own_o church_n come_v betwixt_o the_o first_o part_n of_o this_o reason_n touch_v subjection_n be_v answer_v before_o and_o for_o the_o second_o part_n of_o it_o there_o be_v no_o weight_n therein_o for_o those_o that_o belong_v unto_o the_o communion_n of_o other_o church_n but_o mediate_o be_v not_o therefore_o exempt_v from_o the_o jurisdiction_n and_o authority_n of_o they_o and_o again_o the_o covenant_n of_o communion_n make_v at_o the_o first_o confederation_n of_o church_n for_o their_o mutual_a government_n by_o a_o synod_n remain_v firm_a for_o the_o continuance_n and_o exercise_n of_o authority_n either_o for_o or_o against_o some_o particular_a member_n of_o any_o one_o church_n in_o that_o combination_n although_o that_o church_n unjust_o violate_v their_o covenant_n shall_v refuse_v to_o consent_v or_o communicate_v with_o the_o synod_n in_o their_o act_n of_o ecclesiastical_a judgement_n and_o censure_n of_o some_o scandalous_a person_n among_o they_o moreover_o that_o which_o d._n ames_n write_v in_o the_o same_o chapter_n may_v just_o lead_v we_o to_o acknowledge_v the_o necessity_n of_o synod_n and_o their_o authority_n in_o the_o censure_n of_o offender_n 1._o he_o add_v in_o his_o answer_n to_o the_o same_o question_n touch_v whole_a church_n &_o member_n of_o another_o church_n that_o though_o they_o may_v not_o proper_o be_v excommunicate_v 26._o excommunicate_v case_n con_fw-la l_o 4._o c_o 29._o q._n 11._o the_o 26._o yet_o for_o manifest_a heresy_n or_o great_a fault_n they_o may_v be_v condemn_v forsake_a reject_v which_o be_v proportionable_a to_o excommunication_n if_o he_o grant_v this_o authority_n unto_o synod_n thus_o to_o condemn_v whole_a church_n than_o he_o confess_v that_o they_o have_v more_o power_n then_o only_o to_o counsel_n or_o admonish_v if_o he_o grant_v this_o authority_n unto_o any_o other_o ecclesiastical_a person_n and_o not_o to_o class_n or_o synod_n the_o warrant_n from_o scripture_n ought_v to_o be_v show_v a_o censure_n proportionable_a to_o excommunication_n require_v a_o authority_n proportionable_a to_o they_o that_o may_v excommunicate_v for_o the_o execution_n thereof_o ii_o in_o the_o same_o chapter_n propound_v this_o case_n of_o conscience_n 10._o conscience_n ibid._n q._n 10._o what_o be_v to_o be_v do_v of_o the_o pastor_n where_o a_o fit_a eldership_n be_v want_v or_o where_o the_o people_n do_v not_o consent_v unto_o ajust_a excommunication_n his_o resolution_n be_v the_o solemn_a proceed_n may_v be_v omit_v yet_o a_o good_a pastor_n ought_v to_o give_v all_o diligence_n hereunto_o with_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o faithful_a member_n that_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o matter_n be_v so_o far_o preserve_v that_o holy_a thing_n be_v not_o give_v unto_o dog_n &_o swine_n mat._n 7.6_o and_o that_o all_o public_a scandal_n be_v public_o reprooved_a but_o by_o this_o direction_n neither_o be_v the_o peace_n of_o the_o minister_n conscience_n provide_v for_o nor_o yet_o the_o safety_n of_o the_o church_n for_o by_o what_o warrant_n may_v a_o pastor_n by_o his_o sole_a authority_n determine_v and_o reject_v some_o member_n as_o dog_n and_o exclude_v they_o from_o the_o holy_a thing_n from_o the_o sacrament_n and_o this_o not_o only_o without_o allowance_n of_o the_o eldership_n but_o against_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o people_n and_o body_n of_o the_o congregation_n or_o the_o great_a part_n of_o it_o this_o be_v in_o effect_n a_o excommunication_n or_o as_o he_o call_v it_o the_o essence_n or_o substance_n of_o the_o matter_n for_o excommunication_n great_a or_o less_o be_v the_o only_a ecclesiastical_a judgement_n appoint_v of_o god_n to_o keep_v holy_a thing_n from_o be_v give_v unto_o dog_n to_o permit_v this_o authority_n unto_o the_o pastor_n alone_o be_v to_o open_v a_o door_n for_o tyranny_n and_o oppression_n of_o the_o church_n and_o be_v condemn_v by_o those_o 4_o reason_n which_o he_o give_v for_o confirmation_n of_o his_o answer_n unto_o the_o 9_o question_n immediate_o go_v before_o it_o be_v the_o denial_n of_o synod_n that_o drive_v unto_o such_o extremity_n iii_o that_o which_o he_o here_o say_v of_o public_a reprove_v all_o public_a scandal_n be_v again_o empeach_v by_o that_o which_o be_v say_v before_o 13._o before_o ibid._n q._n 4._o the_o 12_o 13._o that_o in_o those_o church_n which_o through_o want_n of_o discipline_n be_v trouble_v with_o confusion_n it_o be_v not_o always_o necessary_a for_o the_o person_n offend_v to_o admonish_v the_o offendor_n because_o he_o shall_v oftentimes_o in_o vain_a begin_v that_o which_o he_o have_v no_o power_n to_o finish_v that_o the_o commandment_n of_o solemn_a admonish_v of_o a_o brother_n offend_v do_v then_o only_o bind_v when_o there_o be_v some_o hope_n that_o the_o same_o will_v
goulartius_n also_o in_o his_o annotation_n thereon_o observe_v that_o these_o synod_n be_v keep_v to_o this_o end_n that_o the_o purity_n of_o doctrine_n and_o the_o discipline_n of_o the_o church_n may_v be_v preserve_v entire_a and_o that_o the_o disturber_n thereof_o may_v be_v exclude_v from_o their_o communion_n and_o in_o many_o other_o place_n cyprian_a be_v so_o pregnant_a in_o this_o point_n that_o whosoever_o shall_v allege_v he_o against_o the_o authority_n of_o synod_n must_v either_o be_v a_o very_a ignorant_a reader_n of_o cyprian_a or_o else_o a_o wilful_a abuser_n of_o he_o reas._n vii_o note_v the_o effect_n if_o it_o shall_v be_v otherwise_o which_o be_v that_o every_o particular_a congregation_n must_v hence_o necessary_o loose_v she_o own_o proper_a right_n in_o government_n &_o so_o of_o a_o mistress_n become_v a_o servant_n instead_o of_o be_v superior_a wilful_o vassal_n and_o enslave_v herself_o which_o thing_n be_v contrary_a to_o god_n will_v reveal_v in_o his_o word_n gal._n 5.1_o 1._o cor._n 7.23_o 2._o tim._n 1.13_o heb._n 4.14_o rev._n 2.25_o answ._n i._n this_o reason_n be_v the_o same_o for_o substance_n with_o his_o nine_o argument_n before_o and_o therefore_o it_o be_v here_o idle_o repeat_v ii_o the_o vassalage_n and_o slavery_n which_o he_o argue_v from_o classical_a government_n be_v upon_o a_o false_a consequence_n the_o liberty_n of_o innocent_a person_n oppress_v by_o wrong_a judgement_n in_o a_o particular_a church_n be_v to_o appeal_v unto_o class_n and_o synod_n the_o democraticall_a government_n that_o deny_v this_o liberty_n of_o appeal_n be_v no_o gracious_a mistress_n but_o a_o tyrannical_a virago_n resemble_v the_o romish_a lady_n that_o by_o deny_v appeal_n from_o the_o pope_n keep_v many_o in_o bondage_n iii_o the_o scripture_n cite_v by_o he_o be_v all_o pervert_v and_o misapply_v for_o what_o force_n of_o consequence_n be_v in_o these_o reason_n viz._n stand_v fast_o in_o the_o liberty_n wherewith_o christ_n have_v make_v we_o free_a etc._n etc._n gal._n 5.1_o therefore_o stand_v fast_o against_o appeal_n from_o particular_a congregation_n be_v not_o the_o servant_n of_o man_n 1._o cor._n 7.23_o therefore_o be_v subject_a to_o no_o ecclesiastical_a government_n save_v only_o to_o the_o democracie_n of_o a_o particular_a church_n hold_v fast_o the_o form_n of_o sound_a word_n etc._n etc._n 2._o tim._n 1.13_o therefore_o hold_v fast_o the_o independency_n of_o church_n let_v we_o hold_v fast_o our_o profession_n heb._n 4.14_o therefore_o hold_v fast_o the_o single_a uncompounded_a policy_n hold_v fast_o that_o which_o you_o have_v already_o etc._n etc._n rev._n 2.25_o therefore_o hold_v this_o fast_n that_o class_n and_o synod_n be_v only_o for_o counsel_n and_o not_o for_o authority_n to_o censure_n and_o judge_v what_o unsound_a inference_n and_o application_n of_o scripture_n be_v these_o mr_n can_n in_o his_o 9_o argument_n before_o 73._o before_o church_n plea_n p._n 73._o allege_v also_o 1._o thes_n 4.6_o 3._o joh._n 9_o prov._n 22.28_o deut._n 19.14_o together_o with_o gal._n 5.1_o mr_n dau._n also_o to_o like_a purpose_n 237._o purpose_n apol._n reply_n p._n 237._o allege_v some_o of_o these_o place_n to_o wit_n prov._n 22.28_o gal._n 5.1_o 3._o joh._n 9_o but_o they_o prove_v the_o question_n as_o little_a as_o the_o other_o for_o how_o vain_a be_v these_o consequence_n thou_o shall_v not_o remove_v the_o ancient_a bound_n prov._n 22.28_o therefore_o all_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n be_v limit_v to_o a_o particular_a congregation_n and_o he_o remove_v the_o ancient_a bound_n that_o allow_v the_o authority_n of_o synod_n or_o diotrephes_n love_v the_o pre-eminence_n 3._o joh._n 9_o therefore_o class_n and_o synod_n have_v no_o jurisdiction_n or_o power_n to_o judge_v and_o determine_v the_o matter_n of_o a_o particular_a congregation_n what_o weight_n be_v there_o in_o such_o reason_n as_o these_o reas._o viii_o see_v the_o apostle_n wheresoever_o they_o constitute_v any_o church_n with_o doctrine_n immediate_o establish_v in_o it_o 20._o it_o pol._n ecc._n l._n 1._o p._n 20._o ecclesiastical_a government_n for_o without_o this_o as_o d._n ames_n 214._o ames_n de_fw-fr conscience_n l._n 4._o c._n 24._o p._n 214._o say_v there_o can_v have_v be_v no_o couple_v of_o the_o part_n and_o member_n together_o it_o must_v needs_o follow_v that_o the_o primitive_a church_n be_v independent_a body_n and_o stand_v not_o under_o any_o other_o ecclesiastical_a authority_n out_o of_o themselves_o now_o how_o mr_n paget_n will_v be_v able_a to_o prove_v a_o change_n of_o this_o government_n i_o do_v not_o yet_o see_v especial_o consider_v that_o the_o learned_a as_o i_o show_v before_o do_v hold_v that_o there_o be_v but_o one_o certain_a necessary_a &_o perpetual_a form_n &_o manner_n of_o order_v church_n etc._n etc._n answ._n 1_o the_o consequence_n propound_v in_o this_o reason_n be_v false_a though_o the_o apostle_n in_o the_o constitution_n of_o church_n do_v immediate_o establish_v ecclesiastical_a government_n therein_o yet_o must_v it_o not_o needs_o follow_v that_o they_o be_v independent_a body_n etc._n etc._n for_o proof_n of_o this_o consequence_n he_o bring_v nothing_o but_o his_o bare_a assertion_n neither_o scripture_n nor_o testimony_n of_o any_o learned_a writer_n to_o prove_v a_o establishment_n of_o government_n in_o the_o primitive_a church_n at_o first_o he_o idle_o and_o needless_o allege_v mr_n parker_n and_o d._n ames_n to_o prove_v the_o perpetuity_n and_o unchangeablenes_n of_o that_o government_n which_o need_v no_o proof_n he_o needless_o according_a to_o his_o manner_n heap_n up_o testimony_n of_o calvin_n of_o p._n martyr_n of_o d._n bilson_n of_o the_o church_n of_o france_n of_o the_o low-countries_n of_o scotland_n and_o of_o papist_n also_o but_o to_o help_v his_o weak_a unsound_a consequence_n that_o need_v confirmation_n and_o support_n there_o be_v no_o proof_n nor_o show_v of_o proof_n ii_o though_o particular_a church_n in_o their_o several_a assembly_n be_v acknowledge_v to_o be_v distinct_a body_n yet_o in_o regard_n of_o the_o entire_a and_o full_a communion_n of_o saint_n they_o be_v all_o member_n of_o one_o body_n there_o be_v but_o one_o body_n eph._n 4.4_o and_o those_o that_o be_v member_n of_o one_o body_n be_v not_o independent_a the_o scripture_n that_o show_v this_o unity_n and_o the_o duty_n arise_v from_o thence_o be_v just_o allege_v and_o lay_v down_o as_o the_o ground_n of_o combination_n and_o consociation_n of_o church_n and_o this_o foundation_n of_o classical_a communion_n be_v as_o ancient_a as_o the_o first_o constitution_n of_o church_n it_o appear_v hereby_o that_o the_o right_n of_o this_o confederation_n of_o church_n be_v in_o they_o from_o the_o beginning_n with_o liberty_n to_o use_v and_o exercise_v the_o same_o as_o occasion_n and_o opportunity_n shall_v permit_v mr_n cartwright_n be_v require_v to_o show_v scripture_n for_o the_o warrant_n of_o this_o practice_n of_o church_n answer_v 12._o answer_v t.c._n 2._o rep._n p_o 231._o rom._n 12._o 1._o cor._n 12._o the_o scripture_n i_o prove_v it_o by_o be_v that_o st_n paul_n when_o he_o teach_v that_o all_o the_o faithful_a be_v member_n of_o one_o mystical_a body_n of_o christ_n which_o ought_v to_o have_v a_o mutual_a care_n one_o of_o another_o lay_v the_o foundation_n of_o this_o polity_n for_o as_o in_o the_o body_n of_o one_o particular_a church_n every_o faithful_a man_n compare_v with_o another_o in_o the_o same_o be_v a_o member_n one_o of_o another_o so_o in_o a_o more_o general_a body_n of_o a_o whole_a realm_n every_o particular_a church_n compare_v with_o other_o be_v likewise_o a_o member_n of_o they_o therefore_o as_o nature_n teach_v my_o hand_n to_o help_v the_o disorder_n which_o be_v in_o another_o part_n of_o my_o body_n so_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n out_o of_o his_o word_n through_o a_o fellow-feeling_n teach_v one_o church_n to_o stretch_v out_o her_o hand_n to_o put_v away_o as_o it_o can_v the_o evil_a which_o it_o see_v approach_v unto_o another_o 3.13_o rom._n 15.14_o heb._n 3.13_o and_o therefore_o when_o the_o scripture_n will_v that_o one_o shall_v admonish_v another_o it_o be_v not_o only_o a_o commandment_n to_o every_o singular_a man_n towards_o his_o fellow_n but_o also_o to_o one_o whole_a company_n towards_o another_o society_n mr_n parker_n 95.96_o parker_n see_v before_o p._n 95.96_o allege_v the_o same_o ground_n out_o of_o zepperus_n who_o from_o thence_o derive_v the_o authority_n of_o class_n and_o synod_n in_o censure_v and_o judge_v the_o cause_n of_o many_o church_n and_o cit_v many_o such_o place_n of_o scripture_n for_o proof_n thereof_o iii_o when_o the_o church_n of_o antioch_n bring_v her_o controversy_n unto_o the_o synod_n at_o jerusalem_n there_o be_v no_o change_n of_o government_n they_o have_v this_o right_n from_o the_o first_o though_o then_o especial_o it_o be_v manifest_v unto_o all_o for_o the_o actual_a exercise_n thereof_o upon_o
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and_o many_o stumble_v at_o this_o day_n also_o upon_o occasion_n of_o a_o like_a difficulty_n mind_v and_o many_o stumble_v at_o this_o day_n also_o upon_o occasion_n of_o a_o like_a difficulty_n doubt_v what_o be_v meet_v to_o be_v do_v when_o corruption_n do_v abound_v in_o a_o true_a church_n as_o the_o jew_n in_o christ_n time_n be_v when_o as_o yet_o some_o of_o the_o minister_n &_o governor_n thereof_o do_v become_v oppressor_n of_o the_o godly_a &_o persecutor_n of_o the_o truth_n we_o be_v therefore_o to_o observe_v divers_a rule_n of_o direction_n according_a to_o which_o both_o the_o jew_n then_o and_o christian_n now_o in_o such_o case_n be_v to_o carry_v themselves_o 1._o there_o be_v a_o difference_n to_o be_v put_v betwixt_o the_o cause_n and_o matter_n of_o complaint_n about_o which_o man_n have_v occasion_n to_o go_v to_o the_o jew_n synedrion_fw-mi or_o eldership_n there_o be_v some_o kind_n of_o sin_n as_o of_o open_a theft_n adultery_n extortion_n sacrilege_n 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