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A57976 A peaceable and temperate plea for Pauls presbyterie in Scotland, or, A modest and brotherly dispute of the government of the Church of Scotland wherein our discipline is demonstrated to be the true apostolick way of divine truth, and the arguments on the contrary are friendly dissolved, the grounds of separation and the indepencie [sic] of particular congregations, in defence of ecclesiasticall presbyteries, synods, and assemblies, are examined and tryed / by Samuell Rutherfurd ... Rutherford, Samuel, 1600?-1661. 1642 (1642) Wing R2389; ESTC R7368 261,592 504

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may joyn in Gods worship IT is maintained by these of the Separation that the rightly constituted Church must consist of the Lords planting as saith M. Barrow all taught of God all plants of righteousnesse sons of Zion precious stones a redeemed people a royall generation so the Guide to Zion The true visible Church say the Separatists is a company of people called and separated from the world by the word of God and ioyned together in a voluntary profession of the faith So Separatists in their petit Mr. Ainsworth M. Canne the discovery of N. Light For the clearing of the Question we remit to the consideration of the Reader these distinctions 1. Distinct. There be some Saints by externall calling but not chosen some Saints by internall and effectuall calling called and chosen of God 2. Distinct. There be some members of a visible Church who de jure by right and obligation should be such there be other members of a visible Church de facto and in practise who are such and such members 3. Distinct. There is a morall obligation and so all the members of a visible Church are obliged to bee Saints by effectuall calling there is a physicall obligation and so that persons may be members of a visible Church as visible it is not essentially required that they be effectually called 4. Dist. If a true Church and a visible Church as visible may not for a time be opposed by way of contradiction as a believing Church and a non-believing Church I remit to be considered and shall God willing bee cleared 5. Dist. It is one thing to be wicked and scandalous indeed and really and another thing to be scandalous juridicè and in the Court of the Church and notarily 6. Dist. A knowne and openly scandalous person and a well lustred and dyed Hypocrite are to be differenced in the Church 7. Dist. Let it be considered if the preaching of the word be not in divers considerations 1. A mean of constituting and making a visible Church 2. A true note of a visible Church 3. A meane of saving the believing Church now visibly professing the Faith 8. Dist. Let it be considered if the Magistrate and King may not compell men to the confessing and professing of the faith actu imperato by an externall forcing power and yet neither Magistrate nor Pastour can compell to heart-believing actu elicito by an inward moving of the heart 9. Let it be considered if a visible Church may not be a true Church by reason of some few sound believers and sincere seekers of God and that same whole body an infected lump and whoorish in respect of some visible professours who are hypocrites and proud despisers of the Lord. 10. Let it be considered if a Church may not be tearmed by Gods Spirit an whoore no Church no Spouse jure merito quod vocationem passivam in respect of bad deserving and their not answering on their parts to the call of God and yet that same Church remaine de facto formaliter quoad vocationem Dei activam formally and in regard of Gods part and his active vocation and calling the Spouse and bride of Christ. Hence our first Conclusion The Saints by externall calling are the true matter of a visible Church 1. The word Ecclesia the called of God proveth this For those are a true visible Church where God hath set up a Candlestick and whom God calleth to Repentance Remission of sinnes and life eternall in Christ because there bee a setled Ministery calling 2. Because all to whom the Word is preached are called the visible Church as all within the house are vessels of the house visibly howbeeit there bee in the house Vessels of Honour and vessels of dishonour 3. So saith Ainsworth this we hold That Saints by calling are the only matter of a visible Church yet withall we hold that many are called but few chosen So also the kingdome of Heaven or visible Church is a draw net wherin are good and bad fishes a barne-floore wherin are chaffe and good wheat See 1 Corinthians 1. 23. Collossians 1. 1 2. Romans 1. 7. Philip. 1. 1. Math. 20. 16. 2. Conclusion All the members of the visible Church de jure and by right or by morall obligation ought to be Saints effectually called 1. Because the commandement of making to themselves a new heart Ezech. 18. 31. and to be renewed in the spirit of their mind Eph. 4. 23. Rom 12. 2. and to be holy as he who hath called them is holy 1 Pet. 1. 15 16. It doth lay an obligation morall upon all within the visible Church 2. Because the preached Gospell is the grace of God appearing to all men teaching them to deny ungodlinesse c. Tit. 2. v. 11 12. 3. Conclusion But de facto as the visible Church is in the field of the world all the members of the visible Church are not effectually called justified sanctified neither is it needfull by a phisicall obligation for the true nature and essence of a visible Church that all the members of it be inwardly called and sanctified every professor is obliged to beleeve else the wrath of God abideth on him and he is condemned already But to make a man a visible professor and a member of the true visible Church as visible saving faith is not essentially required so as he should be no member of the Church visible if he beleeve not That this may be right taken observe that the visible Church falleth under a two-fold consideration 1. In concreto as a Church 2. In abstracto as visible The visible Church considered in concreto is a part of the universall Catholike and unvisible Church which partaketh of the nature and essence of a true Church and Christs misticall body in which consideration we deny reprobates and unbelevers to be members of the visible Church 1. Because there is no reall communion whatever Bellarmine and Papists say on the contrary betwixt righteousnesse and unrighteousnesse light and darkenesse the seed of the woman and the seede of the Serpent so as they can make up one true Church 2. Because these who are not Christs are not members of Christ and so no part of his misticall body 3. Because they are not bought with a price nor his purchased flock in the blood of God as Acts 20. the true Church is nor builded upon a rock as Mat. 16. 18. 4. Christ is not their Redeemer head High-priest King and Saviour and so neither are they his redeemed his members his people subjects and saved ones 5. Because the promises made to the chos●n and beleevers to give them a new heart regeneration sanctification remission of sinnes are made to them only and in Gods gratious intention and not to reprobates Whence I inferre these conclusions 1. Sepera●ists arguments must be weake for they all conclude that which we deny not and no other thing to
wit that haereticks adulterers forcerers blasphemers be no parts of Christs visible Church as it is a Church Yea we say that as the tree leg and the eye of glasse and the teeth of silver by art put in the body are no members of the living body so neither are these members of the true Church and so much doe all our Divines as Calvin Beza Junius Whittaker Tilen Piscator Pareus Vrsine Tr●l●atius Sibrandus Amesius prove against Papists 2. Preaching of the Gospell is called a note of the Church and profession of faith a note of the Church both the former is a no●e of the teaching Church or minsteriall Church called Ecclesia docens The latter is a note of the professing Church who professeth the faith which we may call Ecclesia utens or Ecclesia practicè consideram 3. Profession of the faith is thought to be true either Subjectively 2. Objectively Or 3. Both Subjectively and Objectively Profession subjectively is true when the professor doeth indeed professe and avow the truth and doth not only seem to avow professe the truth and this is no note of a true Church because it may be in hypocrites who really goe to Church really heare the word and partake of the Sacraments but not sincerely Profession true objectively is when the professor doth professe that faith which is indeed sound and orthodox And this is a marke of the true teaching or ministeriall Church and may be in a visible company of professors who for the time are not sincere beleevers But a profession of the faith both objectively true and subjectively is when the object is orthodox and sound truth and the professor sincerely and gratiously and with an honest heart beleeveth and professeth the truth and this way profession of the truth is a true and essentiall note of a visible Church as it is a true Church and body of Christ and so are our Divines to be expounded in this doctrine about the notes of the visible Church But withall the visible Church is to be considered in abstracto under the notion of visibility and as visible and as performing all the externall acts of professing governing hearing preaching praising administrating the seales of the covenant binding and loosing in the externall and visible court of Christ and under this reduplication as obvious to mens eyes and therefore in this notion all externall professors who are not manifestly and openly scandalous are to be reputed members of the true visible Church and therefore this tearme would be considered a true visible Church For the adjective true may either be referred to the subject Church and so signifieth the true misticall body of Christ visibly and with all sincerely professing the sound faith Or it may be referred to the other adjective visible and so it is no other but a company of professors visible to our senses and so truely visible whose members may be unsound and false professours Then the question is whither visible Saints 1. forsaking all knowne sinnes 2. Doing all the knowne will of God 3. Growing in grace as saith Smith and the discov of N. Light be the only true matter of a right and lawfully consistent visible Church and congregation so as we are to joyne with no company of worshippers of God but such visible Saints as these and to acknowledge no other society a true Church whereto we are obliged to adjoyne our selves as members save only such a s●ciety Or is this sufficient for the nature and right constitution of a true visible Church that the company that we are to joyne our selves unto as visible members have in it these true markes of a visible Church The pure word of God purely preached and the Sacraments duely administred with discipline according to Gods word and withall a people externally professing the fore-said faith suppose they cannot give to us manifest tokens and evidences that they are effectually called and partakers of the divine nature and translated from death to life and are elected called and justified This latter we hold as the truth of God these of the Separation hold the former Now we must carefully distinguish here what are to be distinguished for there are many questions infolded here of divers natures For 1. The question is if the society have the word seales and right discipline and they professe the truth suppose their lives be wicked whether they should not be answerable to that which they professe I Answer No doubt they ought to be answerable to their light and obey the holy calling 2. What if many of them leade a life contrary to that which they professe and yet the governours use not the rod of discipline to censure them then whether should the members separate from that Church They ought to separate say the Separatists They ought not to separate from the Church and worship say we they are to stay with their Mother but to plead with her and modestly and seasonably say that Archippus and others doe not fulfill their Ministry which they have received of the Lord. 3. What if there be purity of doctrine but extreame wickednesse contrary to their doctrine whether is that company a true Church or not I answer it is a true visible and a teaching or right ministeriall Church but for as farre as can be seene not a holy not a sanctified Church and therefore must not be deserted and left 4. What if the guides receive in as members of the Church those who are knowne to be most scandalous and wicked and not such Saints as Paul writeth unto at Rome Corinth Ephesus Colosse Answ. The faults of the guides are not your faults who are private members you are to keepe publike communion in the publike ordinances of Christ but not to take part with their unfruitfull workes but rather to reprove them 5. What if the members of the Church can give no reall proofes that they are inwardly called sanctified and justified and yet you see no scandalous out-breakings in them to testifie the contrary I answer for as much as grace may be under many ashes as a peece of gold amongst mountaines of earth If they professe the sound faith they are a true visible Church and we are to acknowledge them as such and to joyne our selves as members to such a society or being already members we are to remaine in that society and not to separate from it in any sort The Separation doth complaine that in our Church are as Ainsworth saith swarmes of Atheists Idolaters Papists erronious and hereticall sectaries witches charmers sorcerers theeves adulterers lyars c. The Gentiles enter unto the temple of God the holy things of God the Sacraments indifferently communicated with cleane and uncleane circumcised and uncircumcised And amongst you are thousands who cannot tell how they shall be saved So say others as M. Barrow and Smith Hence inferre they our Church is a false Church not right constitute no Spouse of Christ no royall generation not
have two contrary fathers God and Sathan but that is not denyed But hence it followeth not but that hypocrites and unbeleevers may be all their life in externall society with the wicked and make up one true visible Church 6. If the godly have a due right to the promises and seales of Gods covenant and his presence and blessings appertaine to them Mat. 28. 18 19. 2 Cor. 6. 17. Levit. 26. 11 12. Isa. 56. 20. Then no prophane persons can be received or retained in the visible Church with the godly for this is 1. To prophane the holy things of God which no beleever should suffer 2. This is contrary to the nature of the covenant that offereth remission of sinnes only to the chosen and faithfull 3. The godly shall become one body with the wicked by having communion with them 1 Cor. 10. 16 17. and so shall be defiled Haggai 2. 12. 1 Corin. 5. 6. Answ. 1. This argument is injurious to Gods providence who hath left no infallible meanes to keepe his owne Name and ordinances from prophanation and his owne Church from being leavened and defiled with the uncleane For Simon Magus Annanias and Saphira Demas to whom the precious promises of the covenant were preached and the seales conferred could not be discerned to be hypocrites by any word of God while the event of their out-breaking wickednesse declared them to be such and so this should prove that God is not tender enough of the honour of his owne Name and ordinances who should permit hypocrites to lurke in the visible Church and heare the promises and receive the seales of the covenant and defile and pollute them and Christs body the Church for the godly by that Text are made one body 1 Cor. 10. if it be rightly expounded with the latent hypocrites that come to the communion with them 2. The promises and seales were not defiled to Christ and his Disciples because Iudas did heare the word and receive the seales of the word with them The Word and Sacraments were not polluted to Paul because Demas did communicate with him 3. If some one private Christian know another to be an adulterer he is to rebuke him privately and not to tell the Church but in case of obstinacie and suppose the Church would not cast out the adulterer yet is he not to private persons an adulterer while he be juridice by two or three witnesses convicted before the Church and all this while it is lawfull to communicate with him for a a testimonie should not be received against any but under two witnesses We are not made one body by eating that same supper with an unbeleever except it be one visible body communicating in one visible bread Christ and the Apostles were not made one body misticall with Iudas by eating the Passeover together but only one visible externall society which is not inconvenient 7. They reason thus The leaper by the Law was not to remaine in the campe but behooved for so many dayes to be removed and not re-admitted to come amongst the people of God while he was cleansed the uncircumcised must not be admitted to eat the Passeover the uncleane and uncircumcised the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the Heathen the Moabites and Ammorites were not suffered to enter into the Temple And all these signified that no profane person should be mixed with the congregation of beleevers I answer The uncircumcised and the Heathen did sore-signifie the excommunicated who are to be reputed as Heathen and Publicanes Mat. 18. 17. and these are to be cast out of the Church being once sentenced and judged by the Church according to Christs order and Pauls if the sinne be publicke Math. 18. and 1 Tim 5. 20. yet are they not to be debarred wholly from the society of the congregation but they must not be counted as enemies but admonished as Brethren 2 Thes 3. 15. the uncircumcised were not counted as brethren yea excommunication is a meane to save the spirit in the day of the Lord 1 Cor 5. 5. and so he is under the Churches cure as a sick son and must heare the Word and is to be as a Heathen and yet not a Heathen indeed but warned as a brother and in some church-Church-communion with us 8. They reason thus If the prophane be admitted as members of the true visible Church the true Church should not be distinguished from false Churches contrary to the word of God Psal. 84. 10. Cant 1. 6 7. Hos. 2 ●9 20. 2 Cor 6. 15. Rev. 1. 11 12 20. compared with 17. 1 5. but God hath differenced his true Church from all Synagogues of Satan and humane societies as a separated and sanctified people Answ. Gods courts Psal. 84. 10. are differenced from the tents of wickednesse The flocks of the companions Cant 1. 7. expounded to be the false Church are differenced from the true Church in that in the true Church are the Kidds fed beside the Shepheards tents that is the Word of God is purely preached in the true Church and the members therof professe this Word which is not done in the tents of wickednesse and yet a Judas is often one of the Shepheards and a Demas a follower of Paul and the Gospell a member of this true Church visible 2. Hos. 2. Israel is called not Gods wife and God not her husband not because Israel left off to be a true Church de facto and formally as if upon Gods part he had given her a bill of divorcement the contrary wherof is said v. 6 7. he will give her grace to returne to her first husband and 19. he will marry her and Jer 13. 14. hee was married to backesliding Israel that had plaid the harlot with many lovers Jer. 3. 14. v. 1. but Isreal is called no wife de jure by her evill deservings as a husband saith to his wife that hath plaid the harlot you are not my wife to wit by law and right of deserving for you have broken your Marriage-oath Yet upon his part who hath not rent and cancelled the contract of marriage nor put her out at doores with a written bill of divorcement she is de facto and formally still a wife and so was God still in covenant with Israel and sent his Prophets to them and they had circumcision amongst them and God had there seven thousand that had not bowed their knee to Baal and had not cast off his people whom he fore-knew Rom. 11. 1 2 3 4. 3. God is present and Christ also in the midst of the seven candle-sticks and walketh in his Church and goeth not away because these that digge downe his Altars and slay his Prophets and so extinguish the candles are in the visible Church as is cleare he walked in Ephesus beside his candle-stick howbeit they had fallen from their first-love and in Pergamus howbeit the doctrine of Bal●am was there and in Thyatira howbeit Jezabel the false Prophetesse was there
they are not one Church with us but there is a reall and essentiall separation betwixt us and them as betwixt a true Church and an Antichristian Church a spouse of Christ and no spouse for faith relatively taken faith of many united in one society doth essentially constitute a Church and the formall object of their faith is the word of the Church and of men or Gods word as expounded by men and our faiths object formall is the word of God as the word of God and so doe formally differ 7. Howbeit I say Rome is a Church teaching and professing and hath something of the life and being of a true Church yet I hold not that Rome is Christs body nor his wife Neither meane I with our late novators Prelates and their faction sometimes in this Land and now in England that Rome is a true Church as they taught that is so a true Church as 1. We erred in separating from that leaper whore 2. That her errours are not fundamentall and that we and this mother can be reconciled and bedde together But what I say is holden by our Divines Calvin Junius Whittaker that famous Divine Rivetus that most learned Professor Gilbertus Voetius and our Divines Voetius maketh nine rankes of these that were not dyed and engrained Papists in the popish Church 1. Some deceived 2. Some compelled 3. Some ignorant 4. Some carelesse who took● not heed to that faith 5. Some doubting 6. Some loathing it 7. Some sighing 8. Some opposing and contradicting it 9. Some separating from it Now seeing our Church hath nothing to doe with Rome and our ministry lawfull Separatists may hence be satisfied Neither yet doe I thinke with Spalato de repub Eccles. in ostensione error Suarezij cap. 1. pag. 887 888. That the Roimane Church is erronious onely in excesse seeing ●n substantiall points there is such defect also as averteth aith 4. Conclusion There be three sorts that have communion rightly with our Church 1. Infants baptised for baptisme is a seale of their fellowship with Christ and therefore of communion with the Church because Separatists will have none members of the Church while they can give proofes thereof by signes of regeneration infants must be without the Church as Infidels and Turks for none are the Church to them but the royall generation partakers of the holy faith taught of God called and separated from the world the rest are without hence baptisme shall either seale no entring of infants in the Church contrary to Gods word or the baptizing of infants is not lawfull as Anabaptists teach 2. The hearers of the word have a communion with the Church as is cleare seeing these that eate of one bread are one body these that professe in the hearing of the word that same faith are also that same body in profession yet excommunicate persons are admitted as hearers of the word Hence only the extreame and great excommunication 1 Cor. 16. 22. cutteth of men from being simply no members of the Church that excommunication that maketh the party as a heathen and Publican supposeth him still to be a brother and hearer of the word 2 Thes. 3. 14 15. And all these are members of the Church and yet not necessarily converted 3. The regenerate and beleevers that communicate of one bread and one cup at the Lords Table are most neerely and properly members of one visible body and none of these are to separate from Christs body 5. Conclusion It is not lawfull to separate from any worship of the Church for the sinnes of the fellow-worshippers whether they be officers or private Christians 1. Because Scribes and Pharisees and the Church in Christs dayes was a most perverse Church the rulers perverted the Law Mat. 5. 21. denyed that hatred and rash anger was a sinne ver 22. or heart adultery a sin Made the commandement of God of no effect by their traditions Mat. 15. 6. polluted the worship with superstition and will-worship ver 7. 8. Mark 7. 6 7 8. said it was nothing to sweare by the Temple devoured widdows houses made their proselites children of damnation Mat. 13. 14 15 16. were blind guides filled the measure of their fathers wrath slew the Lord of glory 1 Cor. 2. 8 9. killed and crucisied the Prophets were blind guides and the blind people followed them and slew the Lord of glory also The Priest-hood was keeped by Moyen Caiphas was High-priest that yeare But Christ by practice and precept forbad to separate from this Church Ergo c The assumption is cleare Mat. 23. They sit in Moses his chaire heare them Mat. 10. 6 7. Goe to the lost sheepe of the house of Israel and preach And Christ and his Disciples observed their feasts preached in the Temple and Synagogues Joh. 1. 7 37. Joh 8. 2. Luk. 4. 16. Luk. 1. 9. Christ reasoned with them about religion Ioh. 10. 24 25 26. Ainsworth replyeth to this Christ and his Disciples separated from the corruptions of the Iewish Church and from false Churches as from the Samaritanes Answ. We acknowledge separation from corruption but not from the worship of corrupters when they keepe the foundation the Samaratine-Church had not the foundation but worshipped they knew not what neither was there salvation in their Church Iohn 4. 2. but there was the true God worshipped among the Iewes and salvation amongst them 2. Ainsworth replyeth The Iewish Church consisted still as Moses had ordained Levit. 20. 24. of a people separated from the heathen and were the children of the Prophets and covenant Joh. 4. 9. Acts 3. 25. but your Church consisteth of an unseparated people Answ. The Priest-hood was changed Ioh. 11. 51. Caiphas was High-priest that yeare against the Law as Tollet observeth for the High-priest Exod. 28. 29. by the Law was High-priest till his dying day But all was corrupted saith Calvin and all bought and sold saith Iosephus this was as Anti-Mosaicall as our reformers Ministry is Antichristian if they had their calling only from Rome 2. The Jewish Church consisted of men separated from heathen who said stand back I am holier then thou Isaiah 65. but they were corrupters of the L●w murtherers of the Prophets and the heire Christ Math. 21. hypocrites will-worshippers blind guides blind people c. Our second Argument If Gods Prophets and people were never commanded to separate from the publike worship but commanded to come up to Ierusalem and worship pray sacrifice with Gods people Deut. 12 11 12 13. Deut. 15. 19 20. Deut. 16. 7 8. v. 16 17. And yet that people was a crooked and perverse generation Deut. 32. 5. not his children provokers of God to jealousie with strange gods sacrificers to Divells ver 16 17. their workes for bitternesse like the clusters and grapes of Sodome ver 32. a people that had neither eyes nor eares nor heart to understand God Deut. 29 3 4. stiffe necked foolish proud
murmurers idolaters c. Then the sinfulnesse of the worshippers defileth not the worship and we are not to separate from the worship for the wickednesse of the worshippers But the former is Scripture Ergo separate we cannot upon this pretence The proposition is sure for God cannot both command his people to come and worship publikely with his people and then also forbid them because for the wickednesse of the worshippers they were to abstaine Also 2. It will follow that the people should not have gone to Shiloh when God commanded them to sacrifice with Elies sonnes because they committed silthinesse with the women at the doore of the Tabernacle of the Congregation because Elies soones wickednesse made men to abhorre the Lords sacrifice Also 3. Because to prophecy to a people and for the people to heare the word of prophecy are both acts of worshipping God it will follow if we must abstaine from the worship for the knowne sinnes of fellow-worshippers then Isaiah sinned in prophecying to a people laden with iniquity corrupt children the seede of evill doers hypocrites rebells Sodome and Gomorrah murtherers oppressors c. Isa. 1. for Isaiah and that wicked people worshipping together the worship was defiled to Isaiah by these wicked hearers and he should have abstained from prophecying and separated from that polluted and unlawfull worship Hence Ieremiah sinned in prophecying to Israel and Iudah Hosea sinned Amos sinned in prophecying to wicked people Ionah sinned in prophecying to Niniveh Paul sinned in preaching Christ to the obstinate Iewes to the scoffing Athenians And seeing they were commanded to prophecy obedience to Gods commandements shall it be sin and disobedience for certainely the preacher and the hearers of the preaching joyne in one and the same worship Also 4. Baruch should not have gone to the house of the Lord at the commandement of Ieremiah and so at Gods commandement Ier. 36 6 7. to reade the booke of the Prophecie of Jeremiah in the eares of the Princes and people at the entry of the new-gate of the Lords house ver 10. because the Princes Priests Prophets and people followed Baalim slew their children to Molech forsooke the Lord their God said to a stock thou art my father came to Gods house and cryed the Temple of the Lord the Temple of the Lord and yet did steale murther commit adultery sweare falsly burne incense to Baal and walke after other gods Jer. 9. 2 3 13 14. Chap. 5. 31. Chap. 7. 8 9 10. Chap. 2. 13 14. ver 27. Chap. 14. 15 16. Chap. 23. 1 2 3 9 10 11 12. Chap. 7. 30 31 32. Chap. 15. 1. No people could be more desperately wicked yet Ieremiah worshipped God with them commanded Baruch to worship God and commanded the King his servants and the people publikely to worship and heare and beleeve the word Chap. 22. 2 3. v. 5. Chap. 19. 3 4. Chap. 26. 2. And besides he should have commanded the faithfull to separate from such an Idolatrous Church and not commanded them to heare in the Lords house and beleeve and obey So Ezechiel commandeth a most wicked and idolatrous people to joyn in the publick worship Ezek. 6 2 3. Chap. 20. 3 4 5. Chap. 21. 3 4. so all the rest of the Prophets 1. This idolatrous people in the judgement of charity could not be judged visible Saints seeing they were visible Idolaters lyars murtherers adulterers and an Assembly of treacherous persons 2. It cannot be said that to prophecy to them in publick is not to keep a religious communion with them For to heare on Messiah preached these same promises threatnings covenant and that ordinarily is an evident signe of a Church-fellowship and joynt worshipping of God together There only reason that they give to this is The common-wealth of Israel was a policy established by God by covenant without exception and so long as the Covenant stood unbroken on Gods part though broken on their part it was not lawfull to separate from that Church So Robinson Others say Christ behooved to be borne of the true Church therefore they never left off to be the true Church till Christ came Answ. First we have Robinson contrary to Ainsworth the Israelites then sacrifi●ed to Divels not to God Deut. 32. 17. ● Chron. 11. 15. and will you say the Prophets separated no● from them saith Ainsworth We say in the act of sacrificing to Divels the Prophets that were holy separated from them but not from their Church and lawful worship Robinson saith They were to hold communion with that Church of Israel without exception 2. We have a faire confession that contrary to the 31. Article The faithfull may become and stand members and have a spirituall communion with a people as an orderly gathered and constituted Church of Christ that are Idolaters thieves murtherers worshippers of Baal so being they worship the true God publickly as he commandeth and be in externall covenant with him 3. Suppose the Church of Israel should have had a typicall priviledge in this beyond all the Churches of the new Testament which Ainsworth will not grant neither can we see it yet all the Separatists goodly arguments hence fall to the ground if the faithfull might lawfully keep Church fellowship with the Church of Israel so corrupted Then in the old Testament Christ and Belial light and darkenesse might be in one Church worship Then in the old Testament the seed of the woman and the Serpents seed could agree together then it was lawfull to remain in Babel lawfull to become members of an Harlot Church and be defiled with their unlawfull worship and to consent therunto Then it was not required in the old Testament that the Church of God and his people in Covenant should be a Royall Priest-hood an holy people In the old Testament the Church might be a whoore Worship Baal Sacrifice to Divel● and yet remain the Spouse and wife of Jehovah All their passages cited in the old Testament for separation from a Church fall The Church of Israel had not Christ for their King Priest and Prophet and therfore was not separated from all false Churches as they prove from Hos. 2. 2. Cant. 1. 7 8. Psal. 84. 10. in the old Testament The wicked might have taken the covenant of God in their mouth contrary to Psal. 50. 16 17. which place the authour of the Guide to Zion alleadgeth to prove that idolaters and wicked persons are not members of the true visible Church Then it is false that Separatists said The Lord in all ages appointed and made a separation of his people from the world before the Law under the Law and now in the time of the Gospell For M. Robinson teacheth us in the old Testament none were to separate from the Church of Israel though never so abhominable in wickednesse Lastly The Church of Israel had no such priviledge as that persons who were idolaters thieves worshippers of Baal and forsakers of
the true God and going a whoring after strange gods should remaine members of Christs true body and a redeemed Church for then they should have had a priviledge to goe to Heaven holding the broad way to Hell for Christs true body shall be glorified Also 5. Elijah should have grievously sinned against God in gathering together all Israel on Mount Carmell amongst the which there were seven thousand that bowed not their knee to Baal and was the Lords elected and sanctified people and also with them the idolatrous people that halted betwixt God and Baal 1 Kin. 18. for so he brought light and darkenesse Christ and Belial to one and the same publick worship for there was praying and preaching and a miraculous sacrifice and ver 39. All the people fell on their faces and worshipped and Elijah knew them to be an idolatrous people and that the faithfull in that worship behoved to have bin defiled and consenters to the unlawfull worship of these halters betwixt God and Baal Master Canne poore soule doubtsome what to say saith These that preach to people have not spirituall communion with all which are present and heare the same for the Divell is often a hearer But this is a poore shift for neither Saviour Word of God covenant promise or seale belongeth to Satan He is a hearer to carry away the seed that falleth by the way side Mat. 13. And so because the word is not Satans in offer and he commeth uncalled he hath no Church communion with the Church but the Word preached to men and especially in an ordinary way is a professed communion with all professours for so the word of God saith Eze. 33. 3. They come unto thee as the people commeth and they sit before thee as my people and they heare thy words And Esa. 58. 2. They aske of me the ordinances of Justice they take delight in approaching to God And Esa. 2. 2. The peoples communion with one another in going to the Lords Mountaine to be taught his Word is set downe as a marke of the called Church of the Gentiles 2. To heare or professe hearing of the word is a worshipping of God therefore joynt-hearers are joynt-worshippers and have communion together 3. To eate at one Table of the Lord is a profession that the eaters are one body 1 Cor. 10. 17. with that same Lord and promises are offered in the word that are sealed in the Sacrament 4. All our Divines proove the Church of the Iewes and the Church under the New Testament to be one Church because that same word of the covenant and that same faith in substance that was preached and sealed to us was preached to them 1 Cor. 10. 1 2 3 4. Heb 11. Heb 13. 8. Heb 3. 7 8 12 13. none deny this but Arminians Socinians Papists and some other perverters of the Scriptures 5. If a joynt hearing of the Word be denied to be a Church-communion in externall worship upon this ground because all that heare doe not believe but many scoffe at the Word many hate it many reject it in their hearts as Separatists reason this is most weake and prooveth that all have not an internall communion by faith and love but it is nothing against a church-Church-communion in the matter of Separation Also hence it might be concluded none have a church-Church-communion that eateth at one Table and eateth one bread and drinketh one cup except only believers and so all Hypocrites in the visible Church hearing together praying and praysing and receiving the seales of the covenant together in one politick and visible body with believers should be Separatists from believers having no Church communion with believers the contrary whereof reason and s●nse teacheth and Scripture Psalm 42. 4. Psalm 55. 13 14. 1 Cor 10. 17. Math 13. 47. Mat 12. 13. confirmeth Master Canne seeing this saith We affirme not that there can be no religious communion but with members of a visible Church our profession and practise is daily otherwaies yet so that they be such persons howbeit not in Church-state yet to bee judged in the Faith by their gracious and holy walking and are persons in the judgement of Men gracious and holy in their walking but members of a visible Church are visible Saints and so if there be no religious communion to be kept but with persons judged gracious then is there no religious communion to bee kept but with members of the visible Church who are gracious and holy which is a plain contradiction Moreover 6. The zeale of Josiah commended so highly by God should have bin sinfull and wicked zeale in commanding all the people to keepte the most solemne Passeover that ever had beene since the daies of the Judges 2 King 23. 21 22. and yet Iudah was universally corrupted with high places idolatry and false Priest-hood images groves c. It is true Iosiah reformed all these it is as true he sought no more of the people for their externall right worship but profession and could get no more yet he commanded not separation from the Church of Iudah for these corruptions howbeit much heart wickednesse was amongst them as is cleare v. 26. Notwithstanding God turned not from the fiercenesse of his great anger against Judah Moreover 7. Asa his zeale should have bin as sinfull in commanding all Judah and Benjamin and the strangers with them out of Ephraim and Manasseh to conveene in an Assembly which was farre from separation to a solemne service of swearing a Covenant to se●k the Lord under the paine of death to both men and woemen and presently after such abominable Idols as ●ad bin in Iudah and Beniamin 2 Chron. 15. 8. were they all turned visible Saints a holy people a chosen generation all taught of God all partakers of the faith and promises so suddenly at one Proclamation Also 8. Ioshua 24. conveened all the Tribes and exhorted them to serve the Lord he charged them all to conveene and they did enter in a covenant with the Lord and he set up a stone under an oake that was by the Sanctuary ver 26. Now this conveening of them all even these who v. 14. and 23. had strange gods amongst them beside the Lord as Ioshuah knew well and gave warning therof must have bin a sinfull fact in Ioshua in commanding a mixture of Gods people and these that had strange gods to assemble in the Sanctuary and enter in covenant with God and heare the servant of God exhort them so heavenly in that Sermon Chap. 23. and Chap. 24. of Ioshuah this was light and darknesse Christ and Belial to come to one Sanctuary to defile the worship of God pollute the people with leaven take the name of God in vaine if Separatists teach true Doctrine And 9. Moses sinned grievously Deut. 29. in assembling all the men of Israel their little ones wives strangers hewers of wood drawers of water to enter in an oath and covenant to serve
lay hands on their officers and the right of election as they would prove from Levit 8. 2 3. a place notwithstanding abused for the congregation there is the Princes of the congregation as it is a hundred times taken in the old Testament els how could six hundreth thousand persons beside aged men women and children lay hands on the officers They did also excommunicate no lesse then our Church of believers as they say therfore their Church in the essence of a visible Church was every way as ours except in some accidentall ceremonies Lastly suppose the Iewes were the only visible Church that none could separate from yet Christ and Belial light and darknesse should never dwell together 5. They object A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump and so a scandalous sinner not censured maketh the whole Church an infected lump therfore we are to separate from that Church if they goe on except wee would be leavened So Robinson Ainsworth Smith Canne object Answ 1. There is a double infection one physicall as leaven that by touching leaveneth and pest-cloaths that by touching defile the ayre or mens bodies the comparison holdeth not in this I am sure There is a morall infection by evill example and so the incestuous Corinthian not excommunicated did infect if any should use his company as a brother and member of the Church of this latter sort the place 1 Cor 5. is to be understood The incestuous man would infect if the guides and the Apostles spirit should ●●t cast him out Hence it is true that Church guydes in not excommunicating did what was in them morally to infect and leaven the Church but 1. It followeth not that the Church was actu secundo and actually infected howbeit no thanks to the guides 2. It followeth not that they should separate from a Church that might infect because that is not Gods meane of eschewing infection to lowpe out of one true Church to another for one fault 2. The eschewing and separating from the error of the Church and the mans company is enough to them to eschew the infection They urge But it is atempting of God to stay in an infected lump suppose you be not actually infected your selfe for no thankes to you as it is a tempting of God to keepe company with a wicked man suppose by Gods grace yee learne not his wicked fashions a man is guilty of selfe-murther who rydeth a swelling and dangerous river and sinneth in so doing suppose God graciously pardon his rashnesse and carry him through the river safe I Answ. 1. To stay in every place where sinners are and to haunt the wicked mans company as his companion is a sinfull tempting of God suppose ye be not actually insnared but to stay in the company or Church carefully flying every spot and soule ayre that may blow sin upon you is no tempting of God But secondly they thus urge to stay a member of a leavened Church and keepe church-Church-communion with that infected Church is to tempt God therfore God calleth you to separate from that Church I answer 1. To stay a member of that Church wholly leavened and where the matter of the worship is leaven and fundamentall points corrupted and obtruded upon the conscience is to tempt God for then I keepe communion with a leavened Church as leavened such as is Babell but the assumption now is false and the case not so here but to keep my self and remain a member of a Church leavened in part with one sin and to take no part with the sinne and yeeld no consent therunto is no tempting of God Paul joyned as a member with the Church of Corinth and acknowledged them as a Church and commanded to keepe Church fellowship with them 1 Cor 5. 4. even when this leavened lump was souring amongst them But thirdly they urge the incestuous mans sinne not censured infected the Church the infected Church infecteth the worship Answ. I deny that the sinne of the worshippers infecteth the worship to others that are not guilty it infecteth the worship to themselves but not to others a worship corrupt by accident only through the fault of the worshipper may and doth make the Lords Supper damnation to the eater and therefore the eater is forbidden so to eat a worship in the matter and intrinsecall principle unjust and sinfull is defiled both to the man himselfe and to all that taketh part with him as the teacher of false Doctrine and all that heareth and believeth are defiled but if the sin of an unworthy communicant even knowne to be so be damnation to himselfe and defile the worship to others then Paul would have said he that eateth and drinketh unworthily eateth and drinketh his owne damnation and the damnation of the whole Church and Paul should have forbidden all others to eat and drinke withall who communicateth unworthily if he allowed separation but he saith he eateth and drinketh damnation 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to himselfe not to all others But fourthly they urge thus We must not onely strive to rebuke and censure one another but we must not stay a member of that Church in the which we are not permitted to doe the duty that Christ hath commanded us for the station and place is unwarrantable where we are necessitated to sinne that is to omit a duty of the Keyes that God hath given to all the faithfull Ergo we must separate from that Church where all the faithfull may not use the Keyes Answ. 1. Also if the power of the Keys be in the hands of the people as some teach so as they are under a commandement of God to rebuke authoritatively and judicially to censure and excommunicate their universall omission of that duty seemeth to be sinfull and howbeit I be loath to teach Separation I see not how the authours who give the power of the keyes to all private Christians are not to separate from all Churches where Presbyteriall government is no lesse then the strictest Separatists do● 2. Affirmative precepts tye not in all differences of time To rebuke your brother is alwayes lawfull so it be done observing due circumstances but that every be●eever rebuke Church-wayes and judicially by the power of the keyes doth not tye at all because Christ never gave that power to all 2. Some duties tye absolutely as to pray these we cannot forbeare Suppose a Church should make a Law like Darius to borrow a dumbe Devill for thirty dayes and to pray none that Church should not be heard and not acknowledged in that Other dutyes tye conditionally as not to pray in publicke with a man notoriously serving Satan and deserving to be excommunicate yet if the Church excommunicate not wee are not to separate from the prayer of the Church because that person is suffered there so these duties that tye upon a condition that dependeth upon others and not upon my selfe tye not alwayes I am obliged to beleeve what point the Pastor teacheth but
receive the seale of the covenant The proposition he proveth from Genes 17. 10. This is my covenant and every man-childe amongst you shall bee circumcised and Rom. 4. 11. He received the signe of circumcision a seale of the righteousnesse of Faith The assumption he and others proove because murtherers drunkards swearers and whose children we baptise declare themselves not to be Christians nor faithfull nor Saints by their wicked life and so not within the covenant This argument also the Separatists use Answ. The Major is false and not proved from Gen. 17. or Rom. 4 for neither of these places speake of nearest Parents father and mother one at least the Text beareth no such thing but the contrary These are to receive the seale of the covenant whose fore-fathers are in externall profession within the covenant for God commandeth not Abraham only to circumcise his sons but all parents descended of Abraham to circumcise their seed the seed of Abraham carnally descended to all generations and so the nearest parents only are not to be looked unto 2. This argument doth either proceed according to this meaning that these infants only are to receive the seale of the covenant whose parents are within the covenant by an inward ingrafting and union by true faith besides the externall professing therof or then there is no other thing required but only externall profession that the Church without sinne may conferre the seales if the former be said it will follow that God speaketh Gen. 17. only to Abraham and his sons by faith according to the promise and only to believers but God speaketh to all Abrahams sons according to the flesh 2. Because God should speake an untruth that he were a God by reall union of faith to all that are commanded to be circumcised for he commanded thousands to be circumcised to whom he was not a God by reall union of faith therefore these words must import that nothing is more required that the Church without sin may conferre the seale of the covenant but the children to be descended of parents professing the truth and faith although the parents indeed as concerning any reall union of faith be plain strangers to the covenant and members of the Church only as an arme of wood is a member of the body which being true as it must be said the assumption is weake and sick ●or the question is what it is to be externally within the covenant it is not to slee all knowne sinnes to be a chosen people a people taught of God for then God would not have commanded Joshua Chap. 5. to circumcise all Israel because their fathers externally were within the covenant as this argument would say for their fathers were a generation of unbelievers who knew not God who tempted him and grieved his holy Spirit in the wildernesse and professed themselves by their murmuring never to be truly within the covenant Then to professe the doctrine of the covenant is but to be borne Iewes and avow the Lord in externall profession and Deut. 29. sweare a covenant with him when the heart is blinded and hardned v. 4. And so by this it is cleare Joshua had commandement of God to give the seale of the covenant to their children who were as openly wicked against the Lord as murtherers drunkards swearers c. 3. This argument will prove circumcision could lawfully be given to none but the children of parents within the covenant that is professedly knowne to be faithfull holy and se●arated from the prophane world in the judgement of c●arity this hath no warrant of the word For 1. The children of the mo●t wicked were circumcised Iosh. 5. 2. We desire to know whom God forbad to be circumcised that were carnally descended of Abraham Or shew us ex●mple or precept therof in the Word 3. What God required in the parents whose Infants the Church might lawfully and without sin circumcise so they were borne Iewes O saith Mr. Best they behooved to be members of the Church whose infants might lawfully be circumcised I answer that is ignotum per ignotius Shew me one person being a borne Iew whose child the Lord forbad to circumcise 2. What is it to be a member of the Iewish Church Is it to bee a visible Saint and taught of God I true that was required indeed to make men acceptable before God but to make one a visible member of the Iewish Church visible nothing was required but to be a borne Iew and professe Gods truth and keepe them from externall ceremoniall pollutions I mean to be a member of the visible Church to keep externall and church-Church-communion with the rest of Gods people Secondly they object Not onely must they be in profession within the covenant but also members of some visible Church and particular congregation that is that they be within the Church for we have nothing to do to judge them that are without 1 Cor. 5. 12. And this M. Best Proveth by the order required in Gods Church putting a difference betwixt Church-communion and Christian-communion A man may be a just peaceable quiet man and so meet to be a Citizen in a City but he hath not right to the priviledges of the brughe untill he come to them by due order so must a man not onely be a Christian ere his childe be baptized but also a member of a visible Church Answ. 1. This Objection proceedeth from a great mistake as if church-Church-communion with a particular independent congregation were more and a better and nearer ground of baptizing then christian-Christian-communion which we judge to be false because the Catholick Church is by order of nature and first and more principally the body spouse redeemed flocke of Christ then any particular independent congregation that is but a part or member of the Catholike Church and therfore the covenant promises of grace the power of the keys the seals of the covenant belong first principally to the Catholike Church to these that are in Christian communion with her before they belong to this or that visible part of the Catholick Church and so all ecclesiastick power of the keys must be first more principally in the Catholick Church then in a particular congregatiō as a reasonable soul by order of nature is in man before it be in Peter Thomas or Iohn 2. I believe these are within that are professours of the true faith suppose they be not members of the Church of Corinth or of any setled Church it is enough if they be within the covenant and these are without only who are Infidels and Pagans not professing the true and sound faith as the Apostle meaneth 1 Cor. 5. 12. Baptisme is a priviledge of the Church not a priviledge of such a particular independent Church and the distinction betwixt christian-Christian-communion and church-Church-communion in this point is needlesse and fruitlesse for none are to be refused of baptisme whose parents professe the faith and christian-Christian-communion Howbeit
they by Gods providence may be cast into a country where they are not and cannot be without due examination members of a setled Church as one may heare the word and joyn in publick prayer with any true Church he cometh unto and so having christian-Christian-communion with a true Church he hath by that same also Church communion For baptisme is not like Burgess● freedome in a city a man may be a free Citizen in one Towne or City and not be a free citizen to have right to the priviledges of all other Cities but he who is Christs free-man in one Church hath Christian freedome and right to communion therby in all Churches and may have church-Church-communion in all true Churches but hee that is a free Burgesse in one City is not free in all Thirdly they object If Baptisme be given to all promiscuously the Church shall not be the house of God to receive only Gods family but a common Inne to receive all cleane and uncleane So Best citing Cartwright Baptisme is to be administred say the Separatists onely to the seed of the faithfull because such only are accounted to the Lord for a generation which he begetteth and receiveth in his Church to declare his righteousnesse in Christ Psalm 22. 30 31. Rom. 4. 11. and Rom. 11. 16. Math. 10. 13 16. Answ. Cartwright in that place is only against the baptizing of infants of excommunicate parents who are cast out of the Church but as the Church is a house so there are in the house of baptized ones both cleane and uncleane Neither are they all barnes of the house who are within the house the profession of cleannesse and holinesse and of the faith of Christ maketh it a house different from the society of Pagans and In●idels 2. Wheras M. Best urgeth that none should be baptized but members of the visible Church he maketh all baptized members of the Church how then must they be all visible Saints clean persons and holy For baptisme maketh not the thousand part that are baptized to be visible Saints 3. This Generation begotten of the Lord and received into the Church to declare his righteousnesse Psal. 22. is not such only as are to be baptized for that generation v. 30. is a seed that serveth the Lord and v. 31. declareth his righteousnesse All infants whether of faithfull or unfaithfull parents doe alike service to God and alike declare his righteousnesse that is to say infants of what ever kinde can doe no service to God If their meaning bee the infants of faithfull parents circumcised shall serve God and declare his Righteousnesse when they come to age First this Text saith not they are the seed of the faithfull onely that shall serve God For the seed of the faithfull such as Ammon Absolom and Davids seed often refuse to serve God and declare his righteousnesse and the seed and children of wicked Parents as Hezekiah the sonne of wicked Ahaz and Josiah the sonne of wicked Amon doe often serve God and declare his righteousnesse So they cite Scriptures that by no force of reason doe speake for them as Rom. 4. 11. and Rom. 11. 16. say nothing but if the root be holy with the holinesse federall and of the externall profession So are the branches but the place speaketh nothing of true inherent holinesse for then all holy Parents should have holy and visible Saints comming out of their loines which is against Scripture and experience Fourthly they object By this our Divines lose their best Argument against Anabaptists namely that children of Christians by that same warrant are to be baptized that Infants under the Law were circumcised but none was circumcised but a member of the visible Church under the Law Now this ye gain-say who would have all cleane and uncleane baptized and so you leave your patterne Answ. We leave our patterne in no sort For all were circumcised that were borne of circumcised Parents within the Church of the Jewes so all are to be baptized that are borne of Christians and baptized Parents professing the faith But say they Drunkards Murtherers Sco●●ers Swearers and ignorant Atheists both Fathers and Mothers whose children you baptize doe not professe the ●aith for in works they deny and belye their profession Answ. Then you will have the children of none to be baptized but those whose parents are sound and sincere professors in the judgement of charity but so Joshuah failed who circumcised the children of all professing themselves to be Abrahams sonnes carnally howbeit Joshuah knew and was an eye-witnesse that their Fathers did deny and belye their profession And John baptized the ●eed of all Mat. 3. that professed the faith of the Messiah although he knew them to be a generation of vipers 2. They often require that one of the Parents be a beleever or else the childe cannot be cleane nor lawfully baptized and they repose on that place 1 Cor. 7. 14. For the unbeleeving husband is sanctified by the wife and the unbeleeving wife is sanctified by the husband Else that is if both were unbeleevers were your children uncleane that is not within the covenant but now are they holy And they alleadge Beza and Pareus for this Answ. But they mistake the word unbeleeving for by unbeleeving in that place as the Professors of Leyden doe well observe is meant Infidell Gentiles that are without the Church and professe not Christ as is cleare from the Text For where the husband that beleeved was married on a Pagan-wife or a Jew hee thought being converted to the Christian faith he behooved to sunder with his Pagan-wife and the wife converted to the Christian faith married to a heathen and Pagan-husband thought she behoved to divorce and that the marriage could not be sanctified The Apostle answereth this case of conscience Suppose the Father be a Pagan if the Mother be a beleever that is a professour of Christianity for a Beleever is here opposed to a Pagan yet the children are holy by the Mothers or Fathers profession of Christianity Hence the Argument is strong for us Profession of Christianity opposed to Paganisme maketh the children cleane and holy before God by the holinesse of the Covenant therefore Infants borne of parents professing Christian Religion are to be baptized For that this troubled many converted that they were married to heathen and bondmen to them and in such and such callings as they thought inconsistible with Christian Religion is cleare from verse 14 15 16 20 21 22 23 24. And Beza on that place saith it was never heard in the ancient Church that every Infidell child was to be baptized And Pareus saith the children of Christian parents are holy before Baptisme by a Covenant and externall holinesse iure by Gods right being borne of Christian parents And after Baptisme they are holy de facto formally and actually So say Melancthon and Keckerman But I feare that these who will have none baptized
but the child●en of beleeving parents aime at this That the faith of the father is imputed to the children which indeed reverend Beza doth maintaine Or then a worse that Infants are not to be baptized at all seeing they oppose the places that we cite for the lawfulnesse of baptizing Infants The authors of Presbyteriall government call the baptizing of children a untimous anticipation Our brethrens mind is that the Infants of both Parents knowne to be unbeleevers are not to be baptized untill they come to age and can give proofe that they are within the covenant of grace what Anabaptists thinke here is knowne Some say that Boniface the 4. in the yeare 606. began the Baptisme of infants M. Best saith too nakedly I beleeve at Augustine Cyprian Origen Cyrill Nazianzen Ambrose and many other Fathers affirme that the Church hath received the Baptisme of Infants from the Apostles What doth he not beleeve that it is most evidently in Scripture and hath he no better warrant then the ●athers Fourthly M. Best objecteth If there be no precept nor example for baptizing of Infants begotten of both Parents unbeleeving then there is no promise of blessing made unto it but the first is true Ergo the second Answ. 1. We aske with what faith and by what precept or example was ever circumcision in the whole old Testament denyed to any male-childe of the most wicked Jewes and by what precept and example is Baptisme denyed to any Infant in the New Testament for his Parents wickednesse the Fathers professing the Christian Faith Yea seeing Baptisme is denyed to Infants upon a suspition that their Parents are destitute of faith and not within the Covenant Now this suspition is not faith nor grounded upon any word of God or certaintie of faith for whether an other man beleeve or beleeve not it is not faith nor knowne by faiths certaintie to me but by the judgement of charitie Fifthly they object If all promiscuously be baptized Gods name is taken in vaine and the holy Sacrament greatly abused Mal. 1. 12. Heb. 10 29. Answ. This is to accuse God as if he had not found sufficient wayes out to save his owne name from blasphemy Nor can our brethren by their Doctrine save his name from dishonour nor the Sacrament from prophanation because multitudes of Infants borne of beleeving Parents are reprobates and yet God hath commanded to baptize them who being reprobates must be without the covenant and so the covenant is prophaned and many Infants of wicked Parents are chosen and within the covenant yet are we forbidden by our brethren to give them the seales of the covenant untill they come to age which also should be given to them and needs force by their doctrine that Christ hath commanded a certaine way of dishonouring his name which is blasphemy ●or we have not such a cleare way to know Infants cleane and uncleane as the Priest had to know the polluted bread and the polluted sacrifices Mal. 1. 7 12. as he citeth For what Infants are within the covenant indeed and chosen of God and what not We neither know nor is it requisite that we know further then that we are to know that they are borne within the visible Church Sixthly they say The Church of God is defiled Hag. 2. 14 15. Ezech. 44. 7. If all Infants promiscuously be baptized for then the people and every worke of their hand and their offering is uncleane So M. Best Answ. We deny that children borne within the visible Church are an uncleane offering to the Lord and that the baptizing of them polluteth the Nation and all the worship of the Nation as they would gather from Haggai For being borne of the holy Nation they are holy with a federall and nationall holinesse Rom. 11. 16. If the root be holy so are the branches For our brethren baptize children of Parents who are hypocrites and unbeleevers and so the uncircumcised in heart come into the Sanctuary Yea Peter in baptizing Simon Magus and Ananias and Saphira brought in the uncircumcised in heart and the strangers to Gods covenant as Best alledgeth from Ezech. 44. borrowing such abused testimonies of Gods word from Separatists as they borrowed them from Anabaptists For we preach and invite in the Gospell all the uncircumcised in heart and all the wicked to come and heare and partake of the holy things of the Gospell and receive the promises thereof with faith And when many come to this heavenly banquet without their wedding garment Mat. ●2 12 13. 2 Cor. 2. 16. Mat. 21. 43 44. It followeth not because they prophane the holy things of God that Ministers who baptize the Infants of hypocrites and prophane persons are accessarie to the prophaning of the holy things of God and that we bring in the polluted in heart to the Sanctuary of God It is one thing whom Ministers should receive as members of the Sanctuary and Church and another thing who should come in and what sort of persons they are obliged to be who come to be members To say that Ministers should receive none into the Church but those that are circumcised in heart and cleane and holy and cloathed with the wedding garment of faith is more then our brethren can prove Nay we are to invite to the wedding good and bad chosen and unchosen Mat. 22. 9. As many as you find bid to the wedding But that all that come to be received members of the unvisible Church are obliged to be circumcised in heart and holy and cloathed with the wedding garment else they prophane the Sanctuary and holy things of God is most true But we desire that our brethren would prove this The Porters that held out the uncircumcised and the strangers out of the Sanctuary were types of the Ministers and Church of the New Testament who should receive none to be Church-members and invite none to the wedding of the Gospell but such as have their wedding garment and are circumcised in heart and are cleane and holy else they prophane and defile the Church of God as M. Best saith We beleeve this latter to be an untruth and yet the strength of this Argument doth hang upon this They are obliged to be such who enter into the Church else they defile the Sanctuary Ergo the Church and Ministers of the New Testament are obliged to invite none to any church-Church-communion or receive them into a Church fellowship but only the circumcised in heart Wee utterly deny this consequence It is one thing what sort of persons they ought to be that should be members of the Church doubtlesse they should be beleevers And another thing whom the Church should receive in these should be professors Seventhly M. Best reasoneth thus The Minister is made a covenant-breaker Mal. 2. 8. who baptized the childe of prophane Parents and why because he offereth the blinde for a sacrifice to God Answ. What if the Parents be
preached to them 11. Whether or no we are to keep some Church-communion with an excommunicate person who is to be rebuked as a brother 2 Thes. 3. 15. and so is to be a hearer of the word and for whose good we use the medicine of excommunication that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord 1 Cor. 5. 4. We aske if the doctrine of Independencie standing we are not also totally to separate from an excommunicate person in the very externall church-Church-communion of hearing the word seeing ten excommunicated persons joyned in Covenant for hearing of the word are no Church no Body no Spouse of Christ. We see not how we are not by the former grounds totally to separate from them 12. If we may rebuke a particular Church and if she remaine obstinate and will not heare why may we not proceed acording to Christs order Mat. 18 tell the Church Answ. By the former grounds we are to stand at single rebuking and proceed no farther 13. Suppose the independent Congregation consist of ten Elders and an hundred beleevers If the ten Elders abide sound in the faith and the hundred beleevers erre in fundamentall points of faith In that case we aske 1. If Christ have appointed no pastorall or ministeriall act of discipline to reclaime these hundred who erre from the faith I answer none at all which may authoritatively reclaime them for they are the supreame independent Church 2. Because it cannot be denyed but Pastors and Doctors of the s●id Eldership may preach against their errours and shoot Heaven upon the pertinacious defendors of these p●rnicio●s errors and that by the power of the keyes Mat. 16. 19. Jo● 20. 23. yet have they no power of discipline to shut Heaven upon them who thus erre from the faith nor to bind their sins on earth because the Eldership is not the Church neither hath power of j●●isdiction over the hundred erring beleevers How can a power of binding and loosing by way of preaching and that both in Gods Court and the Churches be in these who have no power of discipline to bind and loose 14. Seeing the Sister-Churches of Colosse and Laodic●a Col. 4. 16. and of Corinth Macedonia Achaia Galathia 2 Cor. 8. 1 2 3 18 19 23 24. chap. 9. 1 2 3 4 5. are consociated together in a visible body in externall acts of Gods worship as to heare one and the same word of God Col. 4. 16. and to doc Church-businesse and works of mercy toward the poore by their delegates and commissioners We aske if consociated Churches tyed together in a visible church-Church-communion of acts of divine worship be not with as good reason a visible politick body of Christ as many beleevers consociated in a church-Church-communion if acts of divine worship doth make a particular Congre-gation 2. If the former Church hath not the power of the keyes upon the grounds of a visible church-Church-communion among themselves as a Congregation hath the power of the keyes upon these same grounds 3. If these consociated Churches be not a visible Body Spouse and covenanted people with God in Christ as well as a little Congregation of sixe or ten beleevers 4. If such a greater body may not meet in their overseers and exercise discipline and governe the particular Congregations as a Congregation doth meet in their principall members and governe themselves and all the members of the particular Congregation 5. We aske a reason why in a Congregation of three hundred beleevers partaking one Word and Sacrament a hundred of the three separated from the other two hundred cannot meet and exercise the power of the keyes by themselves alone because one worship and one government doth equally concerne them all and by that same reason it should not be affirmed of ten Congregations all partaking one Word and Sacraments upon occasions which neighbourly consociation doth furnish that one cannot meet to exercise discipline in matters which in reason equally concerneth all the ten Congregations without subordination to the joynt authority of all the ten For if a hundred of three hundred cannot exercise discipline there alone without the other two reason would inforce one or two congregations of ten consociated congregations cannot meet without subordination to the whole ten wherof one or two congregations are part if ten be owners of one ship six cannot meet and dispose or sell the ship or repaire her cordadge or any decayed part without the power of the other foure whom it concerneth so if ten congregations be visible owners and copartners of one Gospell one worship one externall profession and one communion with a brother or separation from a scandalous person we aske a reason how one congregation can meet and dispose of that common worship government and haunting familiarly with or separating from a member of the Church without subordination to all the ten congregations whom it doth concerne 15. If the Eldership of one congregation make one visible representative Church ruling and governing the absents we aske why the Eldership of six congregations may not judicially meet and rule six congregations also 16. If the power of the keyes be given to beleevers as beleevers because Christ is their King Priest and Prophet and all things are theirs Paul Apollo Cephas the world 1. It is asked if none have the power of the keyes but beleevers and if all acts pastorall of preaching binding and loosing excommunicating performed by unbeleeving Ministers and Professours be not hence made null as performed à non hab●ntibus potestatem as if Turkes and Pagans had performed these We thinke they must be null 2. We thinke children baptized by unbeleeving Ministers not baptized 3. An unbeleeving pastor not essentially a pastor 4. If because Christ is given to the elect and all things are theirs and so all ministeriall power of the keyes it is questioned if amongst these all things given to the beleevers we may not include the Magistrates sword the Kings power the masters power over the servant the Captains power over the souldier so that by that same reason there be no Kings no Judges no Masters no Captains save only beleevers we see not how this followes not as well as that the power of the keyes and all things are given to beleevers because Christ is given to them 5. We aske if the power of the keyes in binding and retaining sinnes be not given to unbeleevers or rather for them as Gods intended end to declare the glory of his Justice in the vessels of wrath as Rom. 9. 17. Esa. 8. 14. 2 Cor. 2. 16. 2 Cor. 10. 6 7 8. 17. Quere If the distinction of a true Church 2. A false Church and 3. no Church can stand And if the distinction of true baptisme 2. false baptisme but valid and such as is not to be repeated 3. and no baptisme can stand I answer the doctrine of independency standing we see not how a Church wanting the right matter and consisting of members who
such as hath joynt power of the keyes even by the grant of Separatists with the rest of the Congregation there is not faith in Christ required as an essentiall element as I have proved from Mat. 7. 22. so to make these twelve members of a visible Congregation Faith is not essentially required suppose it be morally required so by that same reason to make other twelve members in that visible society in Christ faith were not required as to make Demas Ananias Saphira Magus Alexander Hy●●●cus and some moe of that kind a visible Church There is no more required but that profession of faith which moved the Apostolike Church to make them members of a true Church visible For what maketh formally a member of a Church visible to wit profession of the faith that same maketh forty also members of a visible Church and quae est ratio constitutiva partium est etiam const●tutiva totius That which formally constituteth a part doth formally constitute the whole where the whole is made of parts of the same nature as what is essentiall to make a quart of water that is essentiall to make a whole sea of water and every part of the visible Church is visible and a visible professour as visibility denominateth the whole so doth it every part of the whole And from this I inferre this fourth That a visible Church as visible doth not essentially and necessarily consist of believers but only of professours of beliefe so that a Church and a visible Church may be opposed by way of contradiction as a number of believers and a number of non-believers For a Church essentially is a number of believers and Christs mysticall body els it is not a Church that is a number of persons effectually called for this cause I grant an Eldership of a congregation a Synod Provinciall or Nationall are unproperly called a Church and howbeit we list not to strive about names we may grant our General assembly not to be properly called a National Church but by a figure for the believers of the Nation are properly the Nationall Church I meane a mysticall believing Church 5. Conclusion The preaching of the Word and seals therof ordinarily setled in a visible society is the essentiall note and marke of a true Church It is weak and vaine that Ainsworth Robinson Canne and Master Smith say The preaching of the Word is no essentiall marke of the true Church and why Because forsooth our Masters learned from Barrow to say It is preached to the Reprobate to whom it is the ●avour of death unto death and it was preached to the scoffing Athenians by Paul Act. 17. and yet the Athenians were not a true Church But we distinguish three things here There is 1. The single and occasionall preaching of the Word 2. The setled preaching of the Word the setling of the Candle-sticke and Kingdome to dwell amongst a people 3. The preached Word with the seales especially the Sacrament of the Lords Supper The single and occasionall preaching or by concomitancy as to a people unconverted and unbelievers and so it is not an essentiall note of the true Church but a meane to gather a Church to God and this they proove and no more and so doe the Belgicke Arminians and Socinians proove against our reformed Churches that it is no marke of the Church so Episcopius the Remonstrants the Catechise of Raccovia and Socinus but this is as if one would say the colours and armes of such a King in warre are carried through the enemies fields as well as through the Kingsland therfore they are not the proper colours of such a King 2. The setled preaching of the Word established and remaining in a Church as the standing candlestick the fixed kingdome of God is the essentiall mark of the true Church and preached in Gods blessed decree of Election only for and to the chosen believers and as it were in the bie to the prophane reprobates amongst them and this they cannot be able to improove And it was M. Smiths vanity to say the Reformed Churches have the Word as the thiefe hath the honest mans purse Anabaptists reason just that way See Calvin 3. The preaching of the Word and the seales of the setled covenant is a means of confirming those that are already converted Neither is it much against us that the Word is preached to the reprobate for the preaching of the Word is considered either in it selfe and actu primo and so it is a mark of the visible Church Or. 2. As it is effectuall by the Spirit of Jesus and actu secundo and so it is an essentiall marke of the true Church and lively body of Christ according to that cited by Whittaker Calvin Willet Paraeus Beza Vrsine Bucanus and our Divines John 1● My Sheepe heare my voyce Hence observe a vile Doctrine of Separatists holden also by Socinians and Arrainians as Episcopius the Belgicke Remonstrants Socinus the Raccovian Catechise and ●heophil Nicolaides That all gifted persons may preach publikely and that there is no nec●ssity of c●lling of Pastors by the Presbytery so doe they teach That there can be no lawfull Pastors now after the Apostacy of of Antichrist till t●ere be a constitute Church of believers to choose them or a flocke to them to watch over And therefore conversion is ordinarily wrought say they by private Christians that have the gift to p●ophecy publikely and yet are not Pastours for private Christians doe gather the Church say they Pastours doe not ordinarily convert they do only confirme the church of Saints already converted Against which we say The new Testament of Christ telleth us of no officers to preach in Christs name for the perfecting of the Saints the worke of the Ministry edifying of the body of Christ but Pastors and Doctors Eph. 4. 11 12. 2. None but such as have power of binding and loosing by the preaching of the Word Joh. 20. 3. Those to whom Christ giveth power of publick teaching to those he giveth power of Baptizing Mat. 28. 18 19. and sendeth them as his Father sent him 4. How shall they preach except they be sent Rom. 10. 14. Sending in the Apostolike Church was by praying and the laying on of the hands of the Presbytery 1 Tim. 4. 14. 5. There is nothing more ordinary then that Pastors as Pastors and by vertue of their pastorall office convert soules 1. Faith is begotten by hearing a sent ●reacher Rom. 10. 14 15. Ministers by whom we beleeve 1 Cor. 3. 9. by them we receive the Spirit by the hearing of Faith Gal 3. 2. 2. People are begotten over a●aine by them as by spirituall fathers and mothers 1 Cor. 4. 15. Gal 4. 19. 3. Pastors are the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 wooers and under-suters to gaine the Brides consent to marry the lovely Bridegroome Christ Jesus Joh. 2. ●9 2 Cor 11. 2 3. 4.
said There shall be no ravenous beast in the Mountaine of the Lord the Mountaine of the Lord is not taken litterally for Mount Sion as if in every little Mountaine of a visible congregation made up of so many Saints there were not a Iudas amongst them But by the Mountaine of the Lord is meaned the Catholike Church alluding to the visible Mount Sion a type of the Church of Christ through all the earth 2. They dispute thus God in all ages hath appointed and made a separation of his people from the world before the Law under the Law and now in the time of the Gospell Gen. 4. 6. Exod. 6. 3. Levit. 20. 24. Ezech. 6. 11. Psal. 84. 10. Answ. God hath made a separation of the Church from the wicked but not such a separation as there remaineth no mixture of hypocrites and unbeleevers in the Church The Church was separated from Caines seede yet was there Idolatry defection and wickednesse in the Church till God charged Abraham to leave his country and his fathers house God separated his Israel from Egypt but so that there was much Idolatry and wickednesse in Israel thus separated God may and doth separate his owne from Egypt 〈◊〉 in Marriage and mixture with the Canaanites 〈…〉 that are born in the visible Church and professe 〈…〉 us should not be received in the Church 〈…〉 be all taught of God all precious stones all plants of righteousnesse it followeth no way but the contrary therefore because they are unbeleevers under the power and chaines of Sathan and ignorance they are to be received in a communion with the Church to be hearers of the word that they may be all taught of God and all made righteous plants 3. They reason thus The wicked have not Christ for their head So the guide to Zion A true visible Church say the Separatists is the Temple of the Lord the body of Christ a kingdome of Priests a Church of Saints the houshold and Kingdome of God Yea saith Barrow a people chosen redeemed Saints by calling partakers of the most precious faith and glorious hope the humble obedient loving Sheepe of Christ a sheepe-fold watched by discipline a garden well inclosed here entreth no Cananite every vessell is holy Answ. 1. The body of Christ a Kingdome of Priests and Saints and these that are partakers of the holy faith are the chosen of God ordained for glory in his decree of election and effectually called and justified but the adversaries say that the visible Church is a company of Saints by calling where saith Ainsworth there be many called but few chosen hence this argument will prove that none no hypocrites can be in the visible Church as a Church is indeed Christs body Now the Church visible as a Church is indeed Christs body a reyall Priest-hood a chosen generation but as visible it is sufficient that the Church be a royall Priest-hood only in profession and so possibly for a while no royall Priesthood no chosen generation as I have observed before But say they hypocrites are not indeed and really members of the true visible Church but only in reputation as an eye of glasse is not indeed a true part of the body I answer then our adversaries give us no right description of the true naturall and lively members of the true visible Church he that would give such a definition of a man as agreeth both to a living man and to a pictured or painted man were but a painted Logician For they acknowledge the true parts of a visible Church to be a chosen people a royall generation partakers of the holy faith either they are really and in Gods esteem a chosen people c. And so we are at a point there be none members of a visible Church none ought to heare the word as members of the Church none ought to preach baptize bind and loose with the rest of the Congregation but these that are really chosen and effectually called which cannot be said Ainsworth then and M. Canne and Smith doe but mocke us when they say The true matter of a true visible Church are Saints in profession and in the judgement of charity for that is not enough they must be according to the Texts of Scripture alledged by Barrow not onely in the judgement of charity but in Gods estimation and in the judgement of verity a chosen people a royall generation If the true matter of the true visible Church be a chosen generation and a royall Priest-hood only in profession the places cited will not help them for Peter 1 Pet. 2. writeth not to an independent Congregation who are in profession only a chosen people But he writeth to the Catholick Church even to all the dispersed and sanctified and regenerated in Pontus Galatia Cappadocia Asia and Bythinia who were not only a chosen generation in profession but also really and in Gods decree of election Neither Peter nor Isaiah are of purpose to teach that in the independent Congregation of the New Testament there are none but all righteous men no stones to speake with Isaiah but Saphires and Carbuncles no thornes and briers but only the firre and the myrtle trees no iron and brasse but all gold and silver no Cananite no Lyon no uncleane vessell this they shall not find in the independent Congregations of Separatists nor can it be in the visible Church on earth except they seeke the Anabaptists Church a man in the Moone 4. They reason thus The wicked are expresly forbidden in the word of God for medling with his Covenant and ordinances Psal. 50. So the guide to Zion Answ. The wicked are forbidden to speake of Gods Law and his Covenant in some case so long as they hate to be reformed but they are not simply forbidden but hence it followeth not that they should not be ordinary hearers of the word but rather they are to be hearers and so members of the visible Church seing faith commeth by hearing 2. From this argument is nothing concluded against us for such adulterers theeves and slanderers as are forbidden to take Gods Law in their mouth Psal. 50. are to be cast out of the Church and the question is if they be not cast out if the Church for that be no true Church that we should remaine in they say it leaveth off to be a true visible Church we deny 5. There is saith Ainsworth proclaimed by God himselfe enmity and warre betwixt the seede of the woman and the seede of the Serpent and there is no communion nor fellowship betwixt Christ and Beliall light and darknesse Therefore the prophane and the godly cannot be mixed together in one visible society as two contraries are not capeable of one and the same forme Answ. This will prove that which is not denyed that the godly and ungodly cannot agree well together suppose the ungodly be latent hypocrites for they have two contrary natures as fire and water and
seducing his people CHAP. X. Quest. 10. Whither or no it be lawfull to seperate from a true Church visible for the corruption of teachers and the wickednesse of Pastours and professours where Faith is begotten by the preaching of professed truth THat we may the more orderly proceed these distinctions are to be considered as making way to cleare the question 1. There is a separation in the visible Church and a Separation out of and from the visible Church 2. There is a Separation totall and whole from any visible communion with the Church or partiall and in part from a point of Doctrine or practise of the Church in a particular only 3. There is a Separation negative when we deny the practise of an errour with silence or refuse publike communion with the Church but doe not erect a new Church within the Church There is a separation positive when we doe not only refuse practise of errours and protest and pleade against them but also erect a new visible Church 4. As there is a three-fold communion 1. in Baptisme 2. in hearing of the Word 3. in communicating with the Church at the Lords Supper so there is a three-fold separation answerable therunto 5. The influence of a worship corrupt may either be thought to come from the persons with whom we worship or 2. from the matter of the worship if corrupt and that either 1. by practise or 2. by not practising somthing that an affirmative commandement of God impaseth on us 6. A communion in worship either implyeth a consent and approbation of the worship or no consent at all 7. A communion of worship when the worship in the matter is lawfull yet for the profession may be most unlawfull as to heare a Jesuite preach sound Doctrine 8. There is a separation from a friendly familiarity and from a communion in worship 1. Conclusion We are to separate in the true visible Church from all communion wherin need-force we cannot choose but sinne suppose we separate not from the Church Eph. 5. 11. Have no fellowship with the unfruitfull workes of darkenesse but rather reproove them Col. 2. ●1 Touch not taste not handle not 2 Epist. John Bid him not God speed that bringeth another doctrine 2. Conclusion from the first conclusion it will follow that a separation in part I meane in some acts of publike worship when we cannot chuse but fall in sin from a true Church is lawfull as we must separate from an idolatrous communion where the bread is adored for then the Lords Table is made an Idols Table and yet we are not totally and wholly to separate from the Church and hearing of the word and praiers and praises of that Church as we shall heare 3. Conclusion Anent separation from Rome and spirituall Babel We have two parties to satisfie if they would in reason be informed 1. Papists 2. Separatists opposers of government Presbyteriall who thinke we have all as good reason to separate from our selves and Presbyteriall Churches as from Babel But I shall speake a little of the first in some few Theses considerable for our purpose 1. Consideration It is most false that Bellarmine saith Churches all withered as branches separated from trees when they separated from Rome Joseph grew as a fruitfull Branch and blessings was on the top of his head when he was separated from his Brethren Deut. 33. 16. For 1. The contrary is seene in the reformed Churches who never flourished as since our separation from Rome 2. The Churches in Asia and Africa and especially the Greeke Church flourished ever since and they separated from Rome and had famous learned men in them after the separation as Theophylact Damascen Occumenius Zonaras Cedrenus Elias Cretensis Basil Nilus and many others and especially the Aethiopian and Armenian Churches had both their Bishops and Assemblies howbeit generall they could not have seeing they were apart not the whole Church 2. Consideration The faithfull before Luther the Albigenses Waldenses and others yea the Romane Doctors themselves holding the fundamentall points with some hay and stubble builded upon the foundation made a negative Separation from Babylon and did neither hold nor professe their grosse Idolatries and other fundamentall errours howbeit they did not hold them positively by erecting a new Church because the separation was then in the blade and not ripe for the Harvest 3. Consideration We hold that Rome made the Separation from the Reformed Churches and not we from them as the rotten wall maketh the schisme in the house when the house standeth still and the rotten wall falleth 1. Because we left not Christianity in Rome but the leprosie of Popery growing upon Christianity seeing we kept the Apostolike faith and did positively separate from the pookes blybes and ulcers of Christian Rome 2. We did not separate from the Westerne Churches either collective or representatively gathered in a generall Councell 3. We departed not from a Nationall Provinciall or Parishonall Church or Pastors that we had before nor from the materiall Temples and Churches except that some not very considerable hyrelings and idoll-pastours would not goe before us 4. And because the succession of fundamentall truths from generations to generations is as necessary as the perpetuall existence of the true Catholick Church while the covenant with night and day and the ordinances of Heaven shall continue Jer 31. 37. therfore there were a succession of professours and members of the Catholick Church that did ever hold these fundamentals which we to this day hold against Rome suppose Histories cannot cleare the particular persons by name 5. We have not separated from Romes baptisme and ordination of Pastors according to the substance of the act nor from the letter of the twelve Articles of the Creed and contents of the old and new Testament as they stand with relation to the mind and intent of the Holy Ghost howbeit we have left the false interpretations of the Lords of poore peoples Faith and Consciences 4. Consideration We separate not from acts of love to have the reliques of Babel saved howbeit we have separated from communion in faith and worship 5. Consideration The essentiall ingredients and reasons of a lawfull divorce are here 1. we could not lye in one bed with that sometime sister Church of Rome but our skin behoved to rub upon her botch-boyle and therfore we did separate from nothing but corruption 2. There was there persecutions and in that we are patients and ejected rather then departers on foot and horse 3. A professed dominion over our consciences 4. Necessity of receiving the marke of the beast and so the plagues of the beast to worship Images and the worke of mens hands a necessity of professing fundamentall errours that subvert the foundation of faith did all necessitate our seperation 6. Consideration The Church of believers might lawfully use justâ tutelâ aet●rnae salutis a necessary defence for salvation and forsake her corrupt guides and choose others
God which was a solemne publick worship for there was amongst that company who ought to have bin separated v. 4. those to whom the Lord had not given a heart to perceive nor eyes to see nor ears to heare to this day So Moses in that prophaned the name of God polluted the word of the covenant Many other instances might bee given for this purpose 3. Argument If Paul doe not only not command separation in the Church of Corinth but also command and approove their meeting together in Church-communion 1 Cor. 5. 4. 1 Cor. 11. 18 20 21 22. 1 Cor. 14. 23. 1 Cor. 16. 2. where there was schismes and contentious 1 Cor. 1. 12 13. envying and strife 1 Cor. 3. 3. incest and incest tolerated such as is not named amongst the Gentiles 1 Cor. 5. 1. going to law with their brethren for gain before Infidels 1 Cor. 6. Harlotry v. 15 16. Eating at the Idols-Table 1 Cor. 8. Keeping fellowship with Divels 1 Cor. 10. 20 2 22. comming to the Lords Table drunken 1 Cor. 11. 21. eating and drinking damnation v. 29 30. A denying of a fundamentall point of faith the resurrection of the dead and that with scoffing at it 1 Cor. 15. 35. Murthering of weak soules whom Christ had dyed for 1 Cor. 8. 12 13. Pauls name despitefully traduced 2 Cor. 10. 8 9. c. Then it is unlawfull to separate from the pure worship of God because a Church is not constitute of visible Saints and a people all taught of God To this Master Barrow answereth 1. These were faults of frailty and ignorance Answ. Such sinnes of the flesh against the law of nature as envy strife extortion drunkennesse at the Lords Table are not sinnes of frailty malitious hating and reproaching the knowne and approoved servant of God 1 Corinth 10. 11 12. 1 Corinth 4. 18 19 20. are not frailties but must contaminate the worship no lesse then sins to the which obstinacy is added howbeit possibly not in alike measure and degree 2. We then are to thinke them members of a visible Church and not to separate from them howbeit in the judgement of charity we cannot say they are a royall Priest-hood the holy seed the sheepe of Christ the Spouse and body of Christ and all taught of God as you say for so the constitution of the visible Church is marred and a company that is not such is not the matter of a visible Church as you teach Barrow secondly saith We should not separate till their sinnes be reprooved and censured and they declared incorrigible and such as will not heare admonition such were not the Corinthians Answ. Then we are to esteeme denyers of the resurrection schismatickes extortioners drunkards incestuous persons fornicatours knowne so to us to bee a Royall Priest-hood the Sheepe bodie and Spouse of Christ regenerate plants of righteousnesse precious stones of Zion all taught of God aye and while the Church and Professours rebuke them and censure them 2. If these were not dispisers of Pauls admonitions why should Paul say 1 Cor. 4. 21. shall I come to you with the rodde how were some of them puffed up as though Paul would not come ver 18. and why doth Paul never once command that they separate from the Church if the Church will not use the rodde against them if the servant of God must waite on gainsayers and obstinate persons if at any time God shall give them repentance 2 Tim. 2. 14 15 16. Should not one wait on a whole Church or many in a Church and keep communion with them till God give them repentance It 's true Separatists say there should be no separation from a Church till all meanes be used of rebuking but why did not then Elijah Moses Joshuah Isaiah Ieremiah command separation and why did they command Church-fellowship after all meanes are used and Israel declared stiffe-necked Deut. 9. 6. Sodome Gomorrah Isa. 1. 10. impudent and hard-hearted Ezech. 3. 7. stiffe hearted chap. 2. 4. refusing to hearken pulling away the shoulder stopping their eare making their heart as an Adamant Zach. 7. 11 12. after all which Church communion with them in the word covenant and oath of God Sacraments Passeover circumcision prayer hearing of the word is commanded 4. Argument If the Apostle tearme the Gallatians the Church of Christ brethren Gal. 1. 2. receivers of the Spirit by the hearing of faith chap. 3. 2. the children of God by faith in Christ ver 26. spirituall chap. 6. 1. and so esteemeth them a right constitute Church not to be separated from howbeit they were in part removed from Christ to another Gospell Gal. 1. 8. bewitched foolish joyning circumcision and the workes of the Law with faith and so fallen from Christ Christ profiting them nothing fallen from grace running in vaine under the Law againe and not under Christ Gal. 5. 4 5 6 18. beginning in the Spirit ending in the flesh Gal. 3 3. if so I say then is it not lawfull to separate from a Church for the sinnes of the worshippers But the former is true Ergo so is the latter The proposition is clear because Pauls stiles which he giveth them make them the body and spouse of Christ and so it is not lawfull to separate from them Also Paul writeth to them as to the Church of Christ which is an acknowledged church-Church-communion 5. Argument If the Church of Ephesus be a true Church holding the candlesticke of Christ and Christs presence walking in it that su●fered for Christs name and fainted not Rev. 2. and yet had fallen from her first-love If Pergamus held the doctrine of Balaam and the Nicolaitans and murthered the Saints had Sathans throne amongst them ver 13. 14. If Thyatira suffered the woman Jezabel to seduce the servants of Christ. If Sardis had a name to live and was dead and her workes were not perfect before God If Laodicea turned cold indifferent and lukewarme in the matters of God and was ready to be spewed out at Christs mouth Then may a church remaine a true Church with a lawfull visible Ministry having power of the word seales and Church discipline as all these had and cannot be separated from except we would leave the candlesticke and Christ walking in the midst of the golden candlesticks 6. Argument If we are to beare long in patience and brotherly kindnesse with the most refractarie and stiffe-necked gainsayers and to preach to them and so keepe externall communion with them as Paul saith the servant of God must doe 2 Tim. 2. 24 25. much more owe we this to a whole Church which doth contumaciously suffer or defend a sinne and a sinner But the former is true Ergo so is the latter The proposition is proved If we owe patience and longanimity to one then farre more to a hundred five hundred ten hundred so Iohn Epist 3. ver 10 11. did beare with the Church wherein wickednesse was tollerated This argument is
worship while we know it and the Church rebuke and censure it but it is too long to lye in the fire and be burnt to ashes till we take notice of the secrets that are known to God that is whether the whole thousand professors that worship with us be beleevers or unbeleevers 3. This answer helpeth not against our argument for Moses Isaiah Ieremiah and the Apostles knew most part that these with whom they did publikely communicate in publike worship were stiffe-necked rebellious idolatrous superstitious and yet they did not separate from the publike worship for their wickednesse 10. Argument That which is so hainous a sinne as to prophane Gods name and ordinances to marry Christ and Belial to mixe God and Idols that are Divells should have been forbidden in the old and new Testament but separation from the true worship of God for the sinnes of the worshippers is never forbidden and communion is ever commanded in the old or new Testament therfore separation cannot be lawfull and communion cannot be such a sin 6. Conclusion A worship may be false in the matter two wayes either when we are to practice it or give our assent to it as to receive the Sacraments after an unlawfull manner to assent to corrupt doctrine that is never lawfull and here we may separate from the worship when we separate not from the Church Or then the worship is false in the matter but our presence doth not make it unlawfull to us as professors may heare a preacher who preacheth the body of divinity soundly howbeit he mixe errors with it because what every one heareth they are to try ere they beleeve as the Spirit of God teacheth 1 Thes. 5. 21. Try all things hold fast what is good 1 Joh. 4. 1. Try the spirits in so doing we separate from the Sermon while we heare the good and refuse the evill because we separate from the error of the worship therefore to heare unsound doctrine is not to partake of false worship because we are to heare the Pharisees but to beware of their leaven and finding it to be soure and unsound doctrine we are to reject it 7. Conclusion A communion in worship true in the matter where the person called for example the Preacher is a minister of Antichrist is unlawfull because we are not to acknowledge any of Babel or Baals Priests professing their calling to be of the Pope the man of sinne 8. Conclusion When we separate from a Church overturning the foundation of religion as from Rome we are to keepe a desire of gaining them howbeit not a brotherly fellowship with them Augustine saith with us we are in mercy to rebuke what we cannot amend and to beare it patiently and else where So Ciprian August Epist. 162. 50. sheweth the Africans were esteemed a Church of Christ howbeit they strictly held baptisme by heretiques to be no baptisme CHAP. XI Quest. 11. Whither or no separation from a true Church because of the sinnes of professors and manifest defence of scandalous persons can be proved from Gods word to be lawfull DIvers places of Scripture are abused by Separatists to maintaine the lawfullnesse of their separation 2 Cor. 6. 17. Come out from amongst them and separate your selves saith the Lord and touch no uncleane thing and I will receive you Ergo saith Ainsworth It is commanded us of God to come out of a corrupt Church and separate from it if we would be in covenant with God Answ. 1. This is no locall separation commanded the Corinthians as Erasmus Sarcerius observeth but a separation in affection and if it were a locall separation it is from the Idol-table of the Gentiles at which some did eate at Corinth to the great offence of the weake 1 Cor. 8. 10. 1 Cor. 10. 17 18 19 20. but from this is badly concluded separation out of the Church of Corinth or any other true Church where the word and sacraments are in purity suppose some errors be practised by some Paul borrowed this place from Isa. 52. 11. as Calvin thinketh where the Lord chargeth the people to come out from Babilon seeing Cyrus had proclaimed liberty to them to come home and applyeth it to the case of Corinth that they should flye all fellowship with Idols and Idols temples and tables 1 Cor. 8. 10. because light and darkenesse Christ and Beliall cannot agree as he citeth from Ezech. 37. Ezech 43. 7. Levit. 26. in the former verse as Marlorat teacheth Now this separation in Corinth was in a Church from the Idolatry in it which separation we allow but not a separation out of a Church else the wordes would beare that Paul will have them to forsake the Church of Corinth for idolatrous tables in it and set up a new Church of their own which the Separatists dare not say and is contrary to other places 1 Cor. 5. 4. 1 Cor. 11. 1 Cor. 14. Where he commandeth and alloweth their meeting and publike Church communion therefore this place proveth not their point 2. This separation is such a separation as is betwixt light and darkenesse Christ and Beliall but the separation is not from externall communion which Separatists urge but from all spirituall and internall communion For Separatists teach that alwayes there are in the Church visible hypocrites and true beleevers for the which cause M. Barrow saith it is compared to a draw-net wherein there are both good and bad now Hypocrites and believers together in one visible Church are light and darknesse together and externall Church communion with the hypocrite which is lawfull cannot be a touching of an uncleane thing and so Church-fellowship with the wicked cannot be Christ and Belial together 3. That Separation here commanded is from the worship of God corrupted in the matter where need force the Corinthians behoved to be joyned to Idols v 16 For what agreement saith he hath the Temple of God with Idols Now he meaneth that the faithfull who were Temples of the holy Spirit should not sit and eat at the Idols Table which is called 1 Cor 10. 20 21. The Divels Table and cup. But what Logicke is this Separate from Idols ergo separate from a Church where the true worship of God is and is professed and taught this is to be yoaked with Christs body Spouse truth but to fly the errours that are in the body which we also teach 2. They object Rev 18. 4. Goe out of her my people that yee be not partakers of her sinnes and that y● receive not of her plagues Ergo we must seperate from the Church where there is any thing of Romes worship Answ. It followeth not for it is as if one would say the wrath of God is to come upon the whore of Rome who hath overturned the foundation of true faith Ergo if Corinth will not excommunicate the incestuous man after ye have warned them of their duty come out of
that Babel also least ye be partakers of her sinnes For they teach were a visible Church never so sound pure holy faire in doctrine and life yet if they refuse to cast out a scandalous person and will spare and defend him they are to be separated from and those that stay in that Church and keepe communion with her are partakers of her sins Howbeit some saving truths remain in the Church of Rome and in that we keepe yet a materiall and reall union with Rome in as farre as they professe one God three persons two natures in Christ c. but we have separated from Rome 1. Because their Doctrine of professed and commanded Idolatry and their other Heresies everteth the foundation of Faith 2. Because they lay another foundation above the foundation Christ the Pope and a multitude of Idol-gods but it followeth in no sort Ergo we are to separate from every true Church of Christ that is incorrigible in one fault or other Where is there a Christian Church that we could live in in the Earth yea except the Anabaptists-Church a Church of white paper as faire as Heaven and the Sunne that there is not a spot on more then on the triumphing Church this on Earth is a city in the Moone 3. They object Come not ye to Gilgall neither goe yee up to Bethaven therfore people were to separate from Idolatrous Israel Answ. I have prooved that the true Prophets commanded Church-fellowship with Israel after their Idolatry and judge if this be good Goe not to Bethaven that is the house of vanity called Bethel the house of God where Jeroboams calves were worshipped ergo separate from all the worship of God in Israel we say Ex negatione speciei malè concluditur negatio generis separate from Ieroboams calves therfore separate from all true worship of God in Israel it is a bad consequence 4. They object In the old Testament the Law consisted of outward ordinances and if they were outwardly performed there was no cause to separate from them But under the new Testament all things are become now and spirituall where Christ hath given power to all the faithfull to censure scandalous sinnes all should separate from a corrupt Church So Barrow But Master Smith helpeth him All things were shadowes in the old Testament David Jehoshaphat c. suffered knowne sinnes in the land yet were they the true matter of the typicall Church being typically and ceremonially cleane for to the constitution of the typicall Church there was not required true holinesse but ceremoniall cleannesse Holinesse was required of them for their acceptation before God but not for the constitution of their Church so there were there typicall Saints typicall Hypocrites that might have no communion together till they were purified and yet being indeed wicked persons they might have church-Church-communion together But our constitution ministry communion separation are contrary to theirs true holinesse is required under the new Testament Robinson addeth No man could absolutely separate from the Church of the Jews for it was the onely one visible Church upon the face of the Earth tyed to one Temple Altar Sacrifice Priest-hood and place they had not excommunication as we have now the offender was by bodily death cut off from the common-wealth as from the Church Answ. It is most false that externall performances of duties were sufficient to make men members of the visible Church of the old Testament 1. Because man-slayers adulterers c. were to be cut off and excommunicated from the congregation of the Lord and their prayers were not accepted of God even by Moses his law Num 35. 33 34. Es 1. 10 11 14 15. Es. 66. 3 4 5. 2 It is false that all the worship under the new Testament is so spirituall that outward performances of externall profession in the new Testament doth not also make professours Ecclesiastically holy and separated from other people not of the visible Church for Ananias Saphira Simon Magus for a time were externally holy and differenced from Pagans without the Church by their baptisme and externall profession Then Barrow must quit all places in the old Testament for separation from a wicked Ministry as that Prov. 15. The Sacrifice of the wicked is abomination to God was as true in the old as in the new Testament Ergo the Sacrifices offered by the wicked Priest were no ordinances of God and did pollute others who did communicate with him 2. The Sacraments of the Jewish Church in substance were one and the same with our Sacraments Heb. 13. 8. 1 Cor. 10. 1 2 3. Joh. 8. 56. Joh. 6. 50 51. Col. 2. 11 12. 1 Cor 5. 7. all say this except Papists Anabaptists Arminians and Socinians and for notoriously wicked persons to use the Sacraments with prophane and wicked hearts was most unlawfull and made them in that no members of the true Church but as Sodome and Gomorrah ●s 1. 10. as Aethiopians Aegyptians and Philistins Amos 9. 7. and such were forbidden to take Gods covenant in their mouth seeing they hated to be reformed Psal. 50. 16 17. Their prayers were abomination when their hands were bloody Es 1. 15. their Sacrifices like the murthering of a man and the Sacrificing of a dogg which was abomination to God Isa 66. 3. and so are all the means they use but I believe if Christ was the Spouse Priest head of the body to the Church of the Iews as to us to the constitution of this body visibly worshipping him in a Church-state there was required that the people should be not only typically holy but really and that God should be sanctified not only typically but really by reall declaration of all that drew nigh to him and the Song of Solomon saith that the communion was morall spirituall beside that it was typicall in some points And this is direct contrary to their confession where they make Separation from a corrupt Church morall and to that separation of the godly from the wicked was taught of God before the Law under the Law and under the Gospell and they teach That all true Churches from the beginning to the end of the world are one in nature and essentiall constitution And would the Lord have these to receive the seales of his covenant as true members typicall of a typicall Church This they say is 1 To take the name of God in vain 2. That the Lord doth seale unrighteousnesse 3. That he prophaneth his Sons bloud and death then a people laden with iniqu●ty a Sodome a generation of Idolaters might all by Gods typicall command claime to the promises of the covenant and they only 3. The common beleevers amongst the Iewes had the power of the keyes as well as we if Separatists teach right for they had power to rebuke one another Levit 19. 17. and this to them is a part of the power of the keyes as Smith saith they had power of ordination to
not absolutely but upon condition it agrees to Gods Word They fifthly urge But I am necessitated in a false Church to communicate with those whom I know to be no members of the true Church but limbs of Satan because in Gods court they are excommunicated and no members of the Church but through the corruption of these that have the power of the keyes these are permitted to be members of the Church who in Gods court are no members at all and if I remaine in the Church I must communicate with them yea if I remaine in the Church I must communicate at that table where the holy things of God are prophaned by dogges and swine therefore in that case I must separate Answ. In your holiest independant Church where discipline is m●st in vigour you meet with this doubt and must separate also if this reason be good For suppose you know one to be guilty of adultery and murther and had seen it with your eyes the party guilty to you is not guilty to the Church For 1. you are but one none is guilty Ecclesiastically and to be debar●ed penally and judicially from the holy things of God except by confession to the Church or by two or three witnesses 2. You know what is holden by all our Divines yea even the Canon Law and Papists teach that the Church cannot judge of hid things and acts of the mind So saith Thom. Aquin. Cajetan Soto Durandus Almain Gerson Navar. Driedo Joan. Maior Paludan Antonin their ground is good The Church cannot judge of that they cannot see And the Churches power of the keyes is all for the externall policy of the Church and therefore such a sinne cannot be the object of Church-censure or cause of Separation Excommunication is ever used against externall scandals Mat. 18. 15. 1 Cor. 5. 1. 1 Tim. 1. 19 20. 2 Thes. 3 14. shew one place where the Church excommunicateth for non-regeneration 6. They object It is not lawfull to call God Father ioyntly with these who are not brethren but sonnes of Satan Ergo we are to separate from such So Smith reasoneth Answ. Except they be all and every one the sonnes of God that are in our visible Church and not one hypocrite or childe of Satan amongst them by this argument we must separate from them and so Separatists are to separate from their owne Congregation wherein they acknowledge there be hypocrites This is Anabaptisticall holinesse Isa. 65. 7. They object It is not lawfull to make Christ a Mediator to all the prophane in the land and to make all the prophane members of his body Ergo we are to separate from a confused Church Answ. So was Corinth Galatin Ephesus confused Churches wherein there were hypocrites We make Christ Mediator and Head to the visible Church according to the best part as Christ speaketh Joh. 17. Thine they were when Judas was never Gods And Paul calleth Corinth Saints Colosse Saints and faithfull brethren and Peter the elected according to the fore-knowledge of God begotten againe to a lively hope where yet there was some at Corinth 2. Cor. 2. 16. To whom the Gospell was the savour of death unto death some to whom it was hidden whom Satan had blinded 2 Cor. 4. 3. And some in Colosse carried away with Angel-worship not holding the head Christ some of those to whom Peter writeth were such who stumbled at the stone laid on Zion and there was amongst them false teachers privily bringing in damnable Heresies 2. and many followed their pernicious wayes spots feasting amongst the Saints having eyes full of Adultery that cannot cease from sinne c. 8 They object These that are mixed with unbeleevers consent to all the sinnes of the unbeleevers and to all their prophanation of the holy things of God seeing God hath given them the power of the keyes to hold out and excommunicate all wicked persons therefore beleevers are to separate from all prophaners of the Covenant except they would forfeit their Covenant Answ. A simple worshipping with hypocrites whom we know not is not a consent to their prophanation of the holy things of God Christs eating the Passeover with Judas the Disciples eating the Passeover when Christ said One of you hath a Devill one of you shall betray me did not import consent nor partaking with Judas his prophaning of the Sacraments 2. Neither hath God given to all beleevers the power of the keyes that way as is alleadged 3. Suppose the Eldership in whose hands onely are the keyes should permit a knowne adulterer who never professed his repentance therefore to the Lords Table yet this were not in the Eldership the sinne against the Holy-Ghost and to forfeit the Covenant though it were a great sinne 9. They object God commandeth the godly to plead with their mother because saith he she is not my wife nor I her husband Ergo if the Church turne a harlot the children are to protest and plead against her as reputing her no mother and so they are to forsake her Answ. If this place prove lawfulnesse of separation from the Jewish Church as from a harlot cast off of God it shall crosse a maine principle of Separatists that the Jewish Church was the onely visible Church from which it was not lawfull to separate seeing the Messiah behooved to be borne there and the Temple sacrifices were onely there Also this pleading was for harlotry and Idolatry But M. Smith and others say that wickednesse and Idolatry did not marre the constitution of the Jewish Church so being they had ceremoniall and typicall holinesse according to the letter of the outward legall service and so from this separation from the true Church is vainly collected 2. Plead with your mother for her harlotries Hence it followeth first 1. They were to esteem her as a mother and of duty as sonnes to plead with her 2. If they were to plead with her and rebuke her they were to keep communion with her because non-rebuking for a time is a signe of separation and suspending communion for a time Ezech. 3. 26. Thou shalt be dumbe and shalt not be to them a reprover for they are a rebellious house Ergo reproving is a signe of communion But they say they were to plead with their mother by power of the keyes and if their mother would not return to the Lord her first husband then they were to goe on to a full separation from her I answer Then two or three faithfull ones in the Church of the Jewes no lesse then in the Christian Church were a true visible Church having the power of the keyes This is contrary to their owne doctrine who make a typicall and ceremoniall cleannesse sufficient to constitute the Jewish Church but require a reall true and spirituall holinesse to the constitution of the Church of the New Testament For if the children may plead with the mother for
want of spirituall chastity and marriage-love to her Lord and for that contend against her to separate from her as from a harlot and non-Church then is reall holinesse required for the constitution of a visible Church amongst the Jewes as amongst us which Separatists deny 10. They object Abraham behooved to separate from his fathers house for the idolatry thereof before Abrahams family was made the true Church of God therefore there is no remaining in a Church where the worship is corrupted Answ. Separation from a Society professing Idolatry and corrupting altogether the doctrine of the Covenant such as was Abrahams fathers house we grant is lawfull their father was an Hittite and their mother was an Ammorite Ezech. 16. 3 4 5 c. Isa. 51. 1 2. but what is this to separate from a Church where are the true signes of Gods presence the Word and Sacraments in substance professed 2. God in a particular call went before Abraham to make a Church of him of whom the Messiah was to come and to whom he was to give his Covenant whereas his Covenant was not in Abrahams fathers house This call is not made nor this Revelation to these who separate from the Church and true Covenant 11. They object The Ministery of the Gospell should be as the holy flocke as the flocke of Jerusalem in their solemne feasts that the oblation might be sanctified but when the people is a confused prophane multitude they are not the oblation of the Lord and so not the Church that we can remaine in to and offer such lamed sacrifice to God in our prayers Answ. The same will follow in their Churches where Minister and professors beeing whited wals and painted hypocrites though not knowne to others A scabbed sacrifice is offered to God and that hypocrites are in the Church alwayes we and they agree and teach joyntly 2. What though the people be prophane and knowne to be a bad sacrifice seeing they professe the truth shall they be excluded from the prayers of the Church and none offered to God in the prayers of the Church but onely beleevers shall not these be offered in prayer to God who are yet unconverted what meaneth that petition then Thy Kingdome come is it not a prayer of the Churches for the non-converted 12. They object With that Church we cannot ioyne with as members thereof where Images and Pictures of Devils are laid upon Gods Altar for spirituall sacrifices which is as abominable to God as uncleane beasts were under the Law And Christ cannot be a Priest to offer these in publicke Church-service to God but prophane men in the Church are such pictures of Devils Ergo the true Church should not offer them to God nor should we stay in that Church where such are offered as Christ will not offer unto God Answ. 1. That same inconvenience shall ever retort upon the objectors because hypocrites that are still in the visible Church shall be Images and Pictures of Devils offered to God and Christ can be no Priest to offer such to God 2. That a visible Church may be a holy oblation laid upon the Altar of God to be offered to God by our High-priest Christ It is not required for the Essence of a true and acceptable sacrifice of worship that all and every one of the Congregation be holy and spiritually cleane For then the Church of the Lords Disciples and followers in the dayes of his flesh should not be a cleane offering to God for amongst them was Judas The Church of beleevers Acts 2. should not be an holy oblation but an offering to God of Images and Pictures of Devils For in their visible Church was Ananias Saphira and Simon Magus Christ our High-priest beareth the twelve Tribes of Israel in his breast and offereth Israel to God as the typicall Priest did yet all and every Idolater Sorcerer Murtherer in Israel are not written on Christs breast but onely thos● that are sealed of every Tribe Rev. 7. It is sufficient to make the oblation holy that there are some few beleevers that are stamped with the Image of God and offered in a holy and cleane oblation to God by out High-priest Christ For amongst Separatists were sound revolt●rs that left their Congregation and wrote against the Separation yet these were once offered to God while they were visible Saints and esteemed to be taught of God and sound beleevers 13. They object That it is not lawfull to have communion with a Church where there is any superstition or Idolatry or false worship For David would not take up the names of Idols in his lips nor is it lawfull to touch the garment spotted of the flesh in respect one Achan taking the accursed spoyle brought iudgement on all the rest and therefore they must separate who would be free of the curse Answ. It is not lawfull to communicate with the holiest Church on earth in an act of false worship we grant but every false worship doth neither make a true Church a false Church or no Church neither giveth it a ground and warrant of Separation for there was much false worship in Corinth where many were partakers of the Idols Table 1 Cor. 8. 10. and many denyed the Resurrection and so Thyatira Pergamus Rev. 2. where were Balaams doctrine and Jezabel the false Prophetesse and yet none of these are to be separated from as false Churches and the Separatists would observe this that when Churches in the New Testament are most sharply rebuked if communion with these Churches going on in their sinnes be Idolatry and false worship and offering of Devils Images to God how is it that the Lord and his Apostles rebuketh the faults but never warneth the true and sound beleevers to separate and make a new Church seeing this is the only remedy to them and there is not another way to escape the judgement of the whol● Church 2. David would not take up the names of Idols in his lips nor should any touch the garment spotted of the ●lesh nor consent unto or countenance Idols but to communicate with a Church where there is a prophane people and a false worship in some points is not to touch unclean garments for the cleane and the sound worship of God is cleane and as for the example of Achan it is most impertinent Israel knew not Achans sacriledge till the Lord found out the man and if this stand good a lurking hypocrite and an unseene Achan in a visible Congregation bringeth a curse on the Congregation and from such a Congregation we are to separate What madnes is this we are to separate from a society before we know any Achan to be amongst them But Separatists say God would not have punished Israel by making them ●ly before the men of Ai Josh. 7. If Israel did take no part with Achan but because of Achans sacriledge they were punished ver 11. Israel hath sinned and transgressed my covenant which I
commanded them for they have taken the accursed thing I answer This giveth us occasion to speake a little of the communion with other mens sins We partake these wayes of the Churches sins 1. When we worke with them and are helping causes this communion is unlawfull 2. When we counsell or perswade to false worship 3. When we omit what we are obliged to doe or commit that we should not doe from whence others are occasioned to sin for by morall interpretation he promoveth the sin of others who doth not give all due and obliged diligence to hinder the committing of sin 4. Those who consent to sin who approve and praise the fact and the committers of the fact 5. Those that doe not rebuke sinne 6. Those who are not displeased for it and doth not mourne for it Ezech. 9. and are not humbled for it and doth not pitty the sinner and pray that God in his mercy or justice may be glorified Now of all these we are to consider how Israel did properly communicate with Achans sin Some say there is a seventh way different from all when we in heart desire to doe what others doe wickedly in the externall fact As Israel also coveted in their heart what Achan tooke with his hands or when we doe the same sinne by Analogy that others are doing as the Marriners are punished for Jonahs sinne when as they were doing a sinne by Anology like the sinne of Ionah For Ionah fled from Gods presence as if God could not have followed him through the Seas and had been like the Idoll-gods and the Marriners did the same they worshipped an Idol-god and knew not the God that made the Heaven and the Earth Now wherein none of these seven wayes we partake of the sins of a Church how can their worship be defiled to us or have any influence to infect us but the truth is Israel were guilty of Achans sin because they did not carefully observe and wa●ne one another to take heed that they medled not with the accursed thing but Joshuah never dreamed of Separation from Israel for Achans sin and the Text saith not that for they could not separate from the Church for Achans sacriledge which was not known to them while God discovered the same else by this Text we are to separate from all Churches where there doth live hidden and covered Achans and unseen hypocrites and thus we behoved to remove and separate up to the Church tryumphing in Heaven or then with Anabaptists find a spotlesse Church on Earth 14. They object To be present at a Masse is to countenance an Idol-worship so to be present in a Church-worship where there is any errours in the worship is to countenance the errour for what worship we countenance to that we say Amen and so we must consent to the wrong constitution of a Church where are prophane people Answ. 1. ●o countenance a worship professedly Idolatrous where the name of the worship doth import the worshipping of a false god is unlawfull for others doe interpret our presence a joynt worshipping with them But our presence at every lawfull worship that is acknowledged lawfull doth not give so much as interpretatively signification of our consent to every particular in the worship because hearing discerning choosing or refusing beleeving or not beleeving according as you find the points agreeable to Gods word or dissonant therefrom doth interveene betwixt your presence at the worship and your consent to the worship now the act of consenting approving and receiving the point of worship is formally to partake of the worship else we could not obey the precept 1 Thess. 5. 21. Try all things some things in the Preacher are to be borne with the Preachers of the Separation have not an Apostolick and infallible spirit if any of them preach unsound Doctrine the presence of the hearers doth not involve them in the guilt of the Preachers erronious worship The Pharisees corrupting of the Law was knowne and rebuked by Christ but yet Christ forbad Separation Heare them saith Christ Mat. 23. they sit in Moses his chaire CHAP. XII Quest. 12. Whither or no doe some warrantably teach that baptisme should be administrated onely to Infant● borne of one at least of the nearest Parents knowne to be a believer and within the covenant And who are to be admitted to the Lords Supper NOt only these of the Separation but also others whom we doe most unwillingly oppose in this hold that Baptisme is to be denyed to Infants whose nearest Parents one at least are not knowne to be within the covenant That our mind may be knowne in this we propose these distinctions to the learned and godly Reader to be considered 1. There is an inherent holines and there is a federall holines whereby some are holy by covenant that is have right to the meanes of salvation which right Turks and Pagans have not 2. People or persons are two wayes within the covenant 1. Truly and by faith in Christ and according to the election of grace 2. In profession because the word of the covenant is preached to them as members of the visible Church 3. There is a holines of the covenant and a holines of covenanters and there is a holines of the Nation flocke and people and a holines of the single person 4. There is a holines of election in Gods mind and a holines reall and of the persons elected 5. There is a federall or covenant-holines de jure by right such as goeth before Baptisme in the Infants borne in the visible Church and a holines de facto a formall covenant-holines after they are baptized Hence our first Conclusion All the Infants borne within the visible Church what ever be the wickednesse of their nearest Parents are to be received within the Church by Baptisme 1. Argument If the children of wicked parents were circumcised all without exception notwithstanding the wickednesse of their parents then the children of these who are borne in the visible Church of Christians are to receive that same seale in nature and substance of that same covenant of grace which is baptisme But all the children of most wicked parents were circumcised without exception Ergo so are the children of Christians borne in the visible Church The proposition cannot be denyed by our brethren 1. They say circumcision was given only to members of the visible Church to whom the doctrine of the covenant Gen. 17. 7 8. was preached and these were professors only within the visible Church of the Jewes as M. Best saith and if children were to be circumcised because God said I will be your God and the God of your seed then because this promise is made to Christians and to their seed in the new Testament Acts 2. 38. they should be baptized ver 38. be baptized every one of you c. ver 39. for the promise is made to you and to your children Whence it is cleare as these who were
Pastor We desire an instance 2. All ordination by practise and precept in the New Testament is by more Pastors then one yea by a Colledge of Pastors which is cleare Acts 1. 13. the eleven Apostles were at the ordination of Matthias and the Apostle Peter presideth in the action And Acts 6. 2. the twelve Apostles did ordaine the seven Deacons ver 6. and prayed and laid their hands on them ver 6. It is vaine that Turre●remata and other Papists say that Peter himselfe alone might have chosen the seven Deacons See for this Whitgyft opposing Turrecremata and Whittaker Also see Acts 13. 1 2 3. Prophets and teachers with the Apostles sent Paul and Barnabas to preach to the Gentiles and they fasted and prayed and laid their hands on them So Paul and Barnabas if there were not more Pastors with them Acts 14. 23. appointed Elders in every Church with fasting and prayer Acts 20. 17. ver 28. There was a Colledge of preaching Elders at Ephesus and at Philippi Phil. 1. 2. Bishops and Deacons at Thessalonica 1 Thes. 9. 12. a multitude that is more then one Pastor that were over them in the Lord and laboured amongst them and admonished them ver 13 1 Tim 4. 14. a Colledge or Senate of Presbyters or Pastors who ordained Timothy by the laying on of hands 2. If ordination of Pastors in the word be never given to people or beleevers or to ruling Elders but still to Pastors as is cleare 1 Tim. 5. 22. Tit. 1. ver 5. Acts 6. 6. Acts 13. 3. 2 Tim. 1. 6. 1 Tim. 4. 14. And if ordination in the word of God be never in the power of one single Pastor except we bring in a Prelate into the Church then one Pastor with one single Congregation cannot exercise this point of discipline and so not all points of discipline 3. If the preaching Elders be charged by the Spirit of God to watch against grievous wolves speaking perverse things Acts 20. 29 30 3● and rebuked because they suffer them to teach false doctrine and commended because they try false teachers and cast them out Rev. 2. ver 14. ver 20. ver 2. if they be commanded to ordaine faithfull men 2 Tim. 2. 2. and taught whom they should ordaine Tit. 1. 5 6 7. 1 Tim. 3. ver 2 3 4 5. 1 Tim. 5. 22. and whom they should reject as unmeet for the worke of the Lord Then one Pastor and a single Congregation have not the power of this point of discipline and so they are not independent within themselves but the former is said by GODS Word Ergo so is the latter 2. Argument That government is not of God nor from the wisdome of Christ the law-giver that deviseth means of discipline for edifying the people by the keyes and omitteth meanes for edifying by the keyes the Elders of every particular congregation but the doctrine of independent Congregations is such Ergo this doctrine is not of God The proposition is cleare Christs perfect government hath wayes and meanes in his Testament to edifie all rankes and degrees of people for the perfecting of the body of his Saints Eph. 3. 11. 1 Cor. 5. 4 5. Mat. 18. 15 16. Iohn 20. 21 22 23. I prove the Assumption If a pastor and six or twelve Elders turne scandalous in their lives and unsound and corrupt in the Faith there is no way of gaining them by the power of the keyes for there be but three wayes imaginable 1. That they should censure and use the rod against themselves which is against nature reason and unwritten in the Word of God 2. They cannot be censured by Presbyteries and Synods for the doctrin of independent Congregations doth abhorre this And thirdly they cannot be censured by the multitude of believers for 1. The Lord hath not given the rod and power of edification such as Paul speaketh of 1 Cor. 4. 20 21. to the flocke over the over-seers 2. This is popular government and worse the flock made over-seers to the Shepheards the sons authorized to correct the fathers 3. We desire a pattern of this government from the word of God Our third argument is from many absurdities That doctrine is not sound from whence flow many absurdities contrary to Gods Word but from the doctrine of independent Congregations without subordination to Synods flow many absurdities contrary to Gods Word Ergò that doctrine is not sound The Major is out of controversie and is cleare for the Scriptures reason from absurdities 1 Cor. 15. 14 15. Iohn 8. 55. I prove the assumption as 1. The Prophets shall not be authoritatively judged by Prophets and Pastours but by the multitude contrary to that 1 Cor 14. 29. Let the Prophets speake two or three and let the other judge 2. Authoritative and judiciall excommunication was in the Pastors and Elders power 1 Co. 5. 4. 1 Tim. 1. 20. 2 Cor. 10. 8. 1 Cor. 4. 21. this doctrin ●u●teth authoritative and judiciall excommunication into the hands of all the people 3. All the assemblies of Pastours in the Apostolick Church for the discipline which concerned many Churches upon necessary causes shall be temporary and extraordinary and so not obliging us now as Acts 1. Act. 6. Act. 11. 1. Act. 8. 14. Act. 13. 1 2 3. Act. 15. Act. 21. 18 19. 1 Tim. 4. 14. and yet these same necessary causes of such assemblies as Divisions betwixt Grecians and Hebrewes heresies schismes remaine in the Church to the worlds end 4. Those who authoritatively governe and edi●ie the Church are men separated from the world not intangled with the affairs of this life 2 Tim. 2. 2 3 4 5. therefore if all the multitude governe and over-see both themselves and their guides they are not to remaine in their callings as trades-men servants merchant● lawyers c. but to give themselves wholly to the over-seeing of the Church contrary to that which the Word of God saith ordaining every man to abide in his calling 1 Cor. 7. 20 21 22. Col. 3. 22. 1 Thess. 4. 11. 5. Believers are over-seers to excommunicate deprive censure and authoritatively rebuke their pastors and so 1. pastors of pastors over-seers and watch-men over their Over-seers and Watch-men 2. The relation of pastor and flock of feeders and a people fed is taken away 3. That which the Scripture ascribeth to pastor● only 1 Tim. 5. 19 20. Tit. 1. 13. v. 9. is given to private professours 6. The brotherly consociation of the authority and power of jurisdiction in many sister-Churches united together is taken away there is no christian-Christian-communion of Church officers as Church officers 7. All particular Churches are left in case of errours to the immediate judgement of Christ and obnoxious to no Church censures suppose they consist of six or ten professours only 8. The grounds of the doctrine are these same arguments which Anabaptists and Socinians use against the places of Kings Judges Magistrates to wit that believers are free redeemed
and edifying their Ministers so that a ministry is accidentall and a stranger to the independent Church both in its nature and working and seeing they edifie others without a ministry why may not private Families where the independent Church dwelleth edifie themselves without a publick ministry I reade in Arminian and Socinian writings that seeing the Scriptures are now patent to all 1 A sent Ministry is rather usefull and profitable then necessary 2 The preaching of the Word by Ministers is not necessary So Episcopi●s The Arminians in their Apology and the Catechise of Raccovia I will not impute these conclusions to our deare brethren but I intreat the father of Lights to make them see the premisses 3 Three or foure believers this way in covenant joyned together to worship God have intensively and essentially all the power of the keyes as the Councell convented at Hierusalem Acts 15. 4. the power of Ordination publick praying publick and authoritative convincing of the gainsayers and judiciall rebuking which Paul ascribeth to the Pastors and preaching Elders 1 Tim 5. 20 21. 1 Tim 3. 2. Tit 1. 9. 2 Tim 4. 2. as essentiall parts proper to their calling doe not agree at all to pastors but by accident in so farre as they are beleevers or parts of an independent congregation by this doctrine for if the keyes and the use of the keyes in all these ministeriall acts be given to a society of believers so joyned in covenant to serve God as to the first native and independent subject all these must agree to Ministers at the second hand and by communication For if God hath given heat to the fire as to the first and native Subject all other things must be hot by borrowing heat from the fire and so Pastors rebuke exhort ordain Pastors censure and excommunicate Pastors only by accident and at the by in so farre as they are believers and parts of the independent congregation And all these are exercised most kindly in an independent congregation by some of their number suppose there be no Pastors at all in the congregation Robinson in justification of Separatists p. 121 122 and Katherin Childly against M. Edwards pa. 3. say as a private Citizen may become a Magistrate So a private member may become a Minister in case of necessity to ordaine Pastors in a congregation where there is none and therefore say they the Church may subsist for a time without Pastor or Elder Answ. In an extraordinary case a private man yea a Prophet as Samuell hath performed by the extraordinary impultion of the spirit that which King Saul should doe to wit he may kill Agag but an independent congregation of private men ordaining pastors say our Brethren is Christs setled ordinance to the worlds end 2 The question is whither the Church can subsist a politick ministeriall body without Pastors and Elders 3 By this the independent way is extraordinary where a private man may invade the pastors chaire then Synods must be ordinary els they must give us another way then their independent way or presbyteriall Churches that is ordinary I desire also to know how our brethren who are for the maintenance of independent Churches can eschew the publick prophecying of some qualified in the Church even of persons never called to be Pastours which the Separatists doe maintaine to the griefe of the godly and learned for in an independent congregation where Pastors and Elders are not yet chosen and when they are in processe to excommunicate them who shall publickly pray exhort rebuke convince the Eldership to be ordained or excommunicated I doubt but a grosser point then the prophecying of men who are in no pastorall calling must be holden to the discharging of all these publick actions of the Church yea I see not but with a like warrant private men may administer the Sacraments because Christ from his Mediatory power gave one and the same ministeriall power to pastors to teach and baptize Mat 28. 18 19. 5. Argum. If Gods word allow a presbyteriall Church and a presbytery of Pastors and Elders then are we not to hold any such independent congregation for our brethren acknowledge they cannot consist together But the former is cleare 1 Tim 4. 14. Mat 18. 17. 18. and is proved by us already Other arguments I shall God willing adde in the following questions CHAP. XIV Quest. 14. Whither or no the power ecclesiasticall of Synods can be prooved from the famous councell of Jerusalem holden Act 15. NOw followeth our sixt Argument against independent congregations Where I purpose God willing to prove that the practise of the Apostolick Church giveth us warrant for Synods and a meeting of Pastors and Elders from many particular congregations giving and making ecclesiasticall Canons and Decrees that tye and lay a band ecclesiasticall upon many particular congregations to observe and obey these Decrees And 1. the popular and democraticall government of Anabaptists where the people governeth themselves and the Church we reject 2 The Popish Hierarchy and the Popish or Episcopall Synods where my lord Prelate the Antichrists eldest sonne sitteth domineering and ruling all we reject 3 We grant that one sister-Church or one presbytery or one provinciall or Nationall Assembly hath no jurisdiction over another sister-Church presbytery or fellow Assembly 4 As there is a communion of Saints by brotherly counsell direction advise and incouragement So this same communion is farre more to be observed by sister-sister-Churches to write and to send Commissioners and salutations one to another and hitherto our brethren and we goe one way 5 An absolute independent and unlimited power of Synods over congregations we also condemne Their decrees tye two wayes I grant 1. Materially for the intrinsicall lawfullnesse of the decree Thus our brethren will not deny but this tye is common to the brotherly counsell and advise of friends and brethren counselling one another from Gods word For all are tyed to follow what God commandeth in his word whither a superiour an inferiour or an equall speake But we hold that the decrees of greater Synods doe lay an ecclesiasticall tye upon under or lesser Synods in those bounds where presbyteries and particular congregations are But it is weaknesse in Separatists and womanly and weakly said by the authour of Justification of independent Churches printed an 1641. under the name of Katherin Childly pag. 17. that the Synod Act 15. it not properly a Synod because their decrees were not alterable but such as were warranted by God and a perpetuall rule for all the Churches of the Gentiles for that authour ignorantly presumeth that Synods may make Canons of nothing but of circumstances of meere order Wheras Synods with good warrant following this Synod have made Acts against Arrians Nestorius and other heretiques ecclesiastically condemning fundamentall errours And heere I enter to proove the lawfullness● of Synods and to dispute against the independency of a visible presbyteriall Church
1. Because an offended brother cannot have a Synod of Elders and a Nationall Assembly alwayes to complaine unto and so Christ shall not set downe an expedite way to remove scandals betwixt brother and brother 2 Christ say they is setting downe a way how an obstinate offendor shall be cast out of the Church where he was an ordinary hearer of the word and a compartner with other professors of the holy things of God in a particular visible Church Now these of divers Congregations partake not in a Church-communion of these same holy things of God Word Sacraments and Discipline Answ. 1. Christ here setteth down a way how all offences of brethren may be taken away for Christs salve must be as broad and large as the soare and excommunication must reach as farre as offences but offences are betwixt Church and Church betwixt the Grecians and the Hebrewes Acts 6. 1. no lesse then betwixt a single brother and a brother 2. I borrow the Argument and pay it home againe Christ setteth downe a way how all scandals in his visible Church may be removed So teach our brethren as an offended brother cannot alwayes have recourse to a Nationall Assembly and so Christs remedy shall be insufficient If by a Church Mat. 18. we understand a Synod say they but when the Grecian Church offendeth the Hebrew Church the Hebrew Church cannot complaine to the Grecian Church for the Law forbiddeth the party to be the Judge therefore if they understand Mat. 18. onely a Congregation excluding all Synods Christs remedy of removing scandals betwixt Sister and Sister-church shall be unsufficient therefore the Grecian and Hebrewes must have recourse as Act. 6. to a Colledge of Apostles and Pastors and that is a Synod 3. I borrow the other Argument also and shall pay it againe These who are consociated and neighboured together in the Acts and Dentees of visible Church-communion by rebuking one another Leviticus 19. 17. Admonishing Collosians 3. 16. Exhorting Hebrewes 3. 13. comforting one another 1 Thess. 5. 11. and pleading one against another Hosea 2. 2. and occasionally communicating one with another in that same Word and Sacrament and in eschewing the fellowship of one and the same excommunicate person These make up one visible politick Church that is under a common Church-government according to Christs discipline which regulateth these acts of church-Church-communion of one with another But so it is that Grecians and Hebrewes and sundry particular sister-sister-Churches are consociated and neighboured together in the fore-said acts and dentees of visible church-Church-communion c. Ergo divers sister-sister-Churches so make up one visible politick Church under one common Church government according to Christs discipline c. The proposition is our brethrens wherby they proove and that strongly that single professours consociated in these acts and dentees of visible Church communion make up one visible Church under one common governement and so say the Fathers Basil Chrysostome Augustine and Athanasius howbeit in habitation we be separated y●t are we one body and Cyprian will have nothing done in the cause of many Churches except wee all meete in one place The assumption for the communion of sundry Churches Parker granteth and the Scripture is cleare Laodicea and Colosse have a sister-communion in that same word of God Col 4. 16. so Corinth Macedonia and Galatia in these same acts of charity to the Saints at Jerusalem 1 Cor 16. 1 2 3 4. see also 2 Cor 8. 1. Rom 16. 27. Also if any person be excommunicate in one congregation also in all the neighbour congregations 1. Because his sinnes are bound in Heaven 2 He is delivered to Satan 1 Cor. 5. 4. to all 3. Christ saith he should be as an Heathen to all and so is excluded from Church communion to all Hence these visible acts of Church communion require a common law and discipline of Christ to regulate them seeing they may offend in the excesse and defect one to another but one common discipline they cannot have except they may by authority conveene in one Synod in their principall members Also Field Bilson Whittaker alleadge this place for Synods all say if Pastors have authority every one within themselves and farre more when they are met in a Synod for vis unita fortior united force is stronger Our eighth Argument is from the constant practise of the Apostles if all weighty affaires that concerne equally many particular congregations were managed not by one single congregation but by the joynt voyces and suffrages of Apostles Pastors and selected Brethren of many congregations in the Apostolick Church Then were Synods the practice of the Apostles and n●t independent congregations but the former is true Ergo so is the latter The proposition our brethren grant I prove the assumption by an induction 1. The select Pastors of the Christian world and select brethren Act 1. did elect and ordaine Matthias to be one of the twelve because that concerned many particular Churches the publick treasury of Apostolick Churches was committed to the Apostles because that concerned them all Act. 4. 33 34. When the Churches of the Grecians and the Churches of the Hebrewes murmured the one against the other one common Synod of the twelve Apostles authoritatively conveened and ordained with praying and laying on of hands the seven Deacons Act. 6. 2 3 4 5. and Walleus saith the argument for ordaining Deacons that the Pastors might attend the word and prayer proveth also that there were then ruling Elders Also Act. 20. 28. there is a Synod of Pastors at Ephesus whom Paul warned to take heed to the flocke and Act 11. 2. Peter giveth a reckning and count of his going in to the Gentiles before a Synod of Apostles and Brethren for it was unpossible that the multitude of believers now growne so numerous could all meete in one house and Act. 21. 18. an Assembly of Apostles and Elders orda●neth Paul to purifie himselfe a Synod of Elders 1 Tim 4. 14. ordained Timothy 9. Argument is from the care of Christ Iesus the head of the Church in the end of excommunication Hence if Christ Jesus take care that one particular congregation be not leavened and sowred with the wicked conversation of one then farre more will he take care that many Churches be not leavened and hath ordained excommunication for many as for one but our brethren grant he hath taken care that one lump leaven not one single congregation 1 Cor. 5. 4. c. I prove the proposition For Christs remedy for remooving of scandals is hence argued to be unperfect if excommunication doe not remove all offences and prevent the leavening of many lumpes for he that careth for the part must far more care for a whole Church and ordaine excommunication of a Church for the edifying therof 1 Cor. 4. 20 21. 2 Cor. 10. 8. That their spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord 1 Cor.
5. 4. 5. and since he tooke this care for a Nationall Church Numb 5. 2 3 4 5. Who can doubt but he hath care of edifying and saving in the day of the Lord Churches of Nations and Provinces under the New Testament yea and a greater care then for saving one single man seeing the influence of his love is bounded first upon the body bride and spouse by order of nature before it be bounded upon one finger or toe or any particular member of the body I meane one single person They answer God hath provided other meanes for whole Churches then to excommunicate them for it wanteth precept promise and practice to excommunicate a whole Church th●y are to be rebuked and we must pleade with obstinate Churches Hos. 2. 2. and if they remaine obstinate we are to with-draw our fellowship an● communion from them and not to acknowledge them as sister-sister-Churches that is we are to separate from them but there is no warrant to excommunicate them Answ. 1. I say this is a begging of the question for we desire a warrant of Gods Word why sister-Churches may use some power of the keyes against sister-Churches such as is to rebuke them plead with them Hos. 2. 2. and yet we may not use all power of the keyes even excommunication now to rebuke and pleade against a Church to Parker and our brethren is a power of jurisdiction and a sort of closing and shutting of Heaven 2. The Iewes did justly excommunicate the Church of the Samaritans and Christ alloweth therof Iohn 4. 22. ye worship ye know not what salvation is of the Jewes in which words Christ pronounceth the Iewes to be the true Church and the Samaritans not to be the true Church 3. I desire to know what excommunication is if it be not to deny all church-Church-communion with those who were once in our Church now if this be done by one Sister-church to another sister-church it is no excommunication at all seeing Christ hath not given the power of the keyes to one Sister-church over another for one particular Church is not set over another in the Lord but when the Eldership of many consociated Sister-churches denieth Church communion to one of these consociated Churches having turned obstinate in scandalous sins I see not what this is els but excommunication and authoritative unchurching and ejection of such a Church Also our brethren pleade for the peoples power in excommunicating because all and ●very one of the beleevers are to eschew the company of the person excommunicated therfore all and every one should have hand in excommunicating him as all Israel and not the Judges onely were actors in putting away the leaven so reasoneth Parker M. Best so also the Separatistes yea if it bee right taken so also saith Beza P. Martyr Calvin Marlorat So Chrysostome Augustine for all are to consent to the excommunication of one who is a member of that visible Church with themselves but so it is that all consociated Churches are to eschew the company of an excommunicated by a single congregation supposed by our brethren to be independent Because 1. if they admit him to the Lords Supper with them they prophane the holy things of God 2. They annull excommunication supposed by our brethren duely clave non errante inflicted and so they loose on earth kim whom God hath bound in Heaven they hold him for a member of Christ and a brother whom Christ hath delivered to Satan and will have to be reputed as a Heathen and a Publican Ergo by this reason all should have hand in excommunicating such a person but many Sister-churches consociated together in neighbourly and sisterly Church-fellowship as we heard before cannot excommunicate in their owne persons being possibly twenty severall congregations Therefore they must excommunicate in their Elderships synodically conveened which is our purpose we intend It is but a womanly evasion of the Femall authour who differenceth betwixt rejection of an offending Church and excommunication We may reject saith she an offending Church but not excommunicate Saul rejected God did he therefore excommunicate God ●or this is but a suting of the question it is not simple rejection of an obstinate Church that we plead for but an authoritative unchurching and not acknowledging of an obstinate Church to be any more a Church with whom we can communicate in the holy things of God and this is more then simple rejection or refusing to obey as Saul is said to reject God I grant we seldome find the practice of excommunicating Churches in the New Testament because so long as a number of beleevers are in a Church God leaveth them not all to be involved in one scandalous grosse sinne therfore the presbytery is to censure particular persons and not the whole Church therfore when we separated from Rome which was an authoritative declaration that Rome is now no longer a Spouse of Christ but a strumpet we did not separate from the faithfull lurking amongst them 10. Argument That government is not from Christ that is deficient in the meanes of propagation of the Gospell to Nations and congregations that want the Gospell But the government by independent congregations is such The proposition is cleare 1. Because Christs keyes are perfect and opens all lockes 2. Our Divines hence prove Christ a perfect Mediatour King Priest and Prophet because he perfectly cureth our threefold misery I prove the assumption by the doctrine of independency Pastors and Doctours may not preach the Gospell without the bounds of their owne congregation neither can they exercise any pastorall acts else where saith the English Puritanisme and M. Best and so Pastors and Doctors have now since Apostles are out of the world and the Churches are planted no authority pastorall to preach the Gospell to those who sit in the region and shaddow of death and if they preach the Gospell to those who are not of their congregation 1. They doe it as private men not as Pastours 2. They have no pastourall authority or calling from Jesus Christ and his Church so to doe But certainely Papists as Bellarmine Suarez Becanus Vasquez Gregor de Valentia seeme to say better who will have the authoritative power of sending Pastors to Nations who want the Gospell to be in the Pope whom they conceive to be an universall Pastor to care for the whole Churches so Christ hath left no pastorall authority on Earth in Pastors and Doctors to make those the Churches of Christ and to translate them to the kingdom of grace who are yet carried away with dumbe Idols and howbeit the Apostles and their universall commission ordinary to preach the Gospell to all their immediate calling their extraordinary gifts be now out of the world yet it is unbeseeming the care of Christ that pastorall authority should be so confined at home and imprisoned within the lists of every particular
Church consisting possibly of six or ten beleevers only that the care for many Churches 2 Cor. 11. 28. The pastorall care to gaine Jew and Gentile those that are within and without to be made all things to all men to save some should be now in no pastors on earth but dead with the Apostles as if these places 1 Cor. 10. 32. 1 Cor. 9. 19 20 21 22 23. Rom. 1. 14 15. Rom. 9. 2 3. did not presse to all Ministers of Christ the extending of their pastorall vigilancy to the feeding and governing of all the Churches in their bounds that maketh up one visible politick body communicating one with another in the acts of church-Church-communion Hence it must follow 1. When the Grecian Church shall be wronged by the Hebrew Church that the pastors may not synodically meet and by joynt authority remove the offences betwixt Church and Church as the Apostles did Act. 6. 2. It followeth that all the meetings and convention of the Apostles and Pastours to take care authoritatively for the Churches as Act. 1. Act. 4 35. Act. 6. 2 3 4. Act. 11. 1. Act. 8. 14. Act. 14. 1 2 3 Act. 15. 6. Act. 21. 18 19 20 c. Act. 20. 18. Act. 14 23. 1 Tim. 4. 14. were all meetings of Apostles extraordinary temporary and Synods of Apostles as Apostles and not meetings of pastors as pastors to joyn their authority in one for the governing of many Churches 3. It followeth that Pastors and Elders and Doctors may now no more lawfully meet and joyne their authority in one for the feeding of the flock then they may take on them to worke miracles speake with tongues and as Apostles goe up and down the earth and preach to all the world the Gospell O that our Lord would be pleased to reveale his minde to our deare Brethren in this point of truth For what be extraordinary and temporary in the conjoyned authority and pastorall care of the Apostles for all the Churches of the world I see not neither is it in reason imaginable which doth not in conscience oblige Pastors Doctors and Elders in the Church of Scotland to conjoyne their authority in one Synodicall power for all the Churches of Scotland O saith our Brethren there should be too many masters commanders and Lords over the free and independent visible Churches of Christ. I answer seeing all these Pastors and Elders in a nationall Synod are no other way over all the Churches of Scotland then the particular Eldership in a particular congregation is over the believers there be no more too many Lords and Masters over the whole Churches collectively united in a general Synod then there be too many Lords over the particular congregations For 1. in both meetings the beleevers choose their owne guides and commanders that are over them 2. Nothing is done in either a Nationall or in a congregationall Synod without the tacite consent of believers 3. In both it is free for beleevers to refuse and not receive what is decreed contrary to Gods Word See Zipperus and so there is no dominion here but what you finde Heb. 13. 17. 1 ●hess 5. 14 15. Math. 18. 17 18. Nay our brethren will have pastors so farre strangers to all congregations save only to their owne that M. Davenport and Mr. Best saith to the Pastours and Churches other Churches are without and Pastors have nothing to doe to judge them and they alleadge for this 1 Cor. 5. 12. but by these that are without Paul meaneth not these who were not of the congregation of Corinth but he meaneth Infidels and Heathen as in other Scriptures for Paul judged and excommunicated Hymenaeus and Alexander 1 Tim. 1. 20. who were without the Church of Corinth and if this exposition stand Pastors can extend no Church censure towards these who are of other congregations neither can they rebuke nor admonish them as Christians for these are Acts of Church-censures as our brethren teach Our eleventh Argument is from the light of sanctified reason for sanctisied reason teacheth that the stronger authority of the greater politicke body of Christ should help the parts of the body that are weaker as 1 Cor. 12. The whole body suffereth when one member suffereth and so the whole body helpeth the weaker and lesse honourable member 1 Cor. 12. v. 23 26. So universall nature contendeth for the safety of particular nature and helpeth it therefore the greater body and Nationall Church is to communicate its authority for the good of a particular Congregation which is a part thereof But the doctrine of independency maketh every Congregation an independent and compleat body within it selfe needing no authority to governe it higher then its owne authority as if it were an independent whole Church and no part of a greater visible Church But suppose the greatest part of Corinth deny the resurrection as often the worst are manyest then I aske whom to doth the Lord speake Take us the little foxes that spoile the vines He speaketh either to greater Synods which we say that the greater body may help a part and save a little daughter of Sion Or to the soundest part of the Congregation but they are weakest and fewest and shall the greater body looke and see a member perish and not help Let them help say our brethren with advise and counsell but not with command and authority I answer Take us the little foxes is an act of authoritative and disciplinary taking enjoyned to the Church 2. Our Argument is drawne from the greater authority in the politicke body to the lesser brotherly advise is not authority Hence authority as authority by this meanes shall not help the weaker parts of the body contrary to that which we have at length commanded 1 Cor. 12. Neither doe some reply well that he speaks 1 Cor. 12. of Christs invisible body because it is said v. 13. For by one spirit we are all baptized into one body whether we be Jewes or Gentiles Jewes and Gentiles saith he make not a visible Church but an invisible Catholike Church I answer 1. What can hinder under the New Testament Paul a Jew to make a visible Church with the Ephesians who are Gentiles 2. That he speaketh of a visible politicke body is cleare while he alleadgeth The eye exerciseth Pastorall acts of seeing for the foot and that the eare heareth for the whole body and when one member suffereth all suffer which is principally true of a politicke visible body For we are not baptized in one body visible with those preachers who are long agoe dead who never preached for the good of us who now beleeve in Christ because we never heard them preach and so they are not eyes seeing for us Our twelfth Argument is from the practises of the Jewish Church in a morall duty If Christ hath left the Churches of a whole Nation in no worse case then the Nationall Church of the Jewes were in for their publike giving of
power of the keyes the private person rebuketh swearing out of charity with care onely of these with whom hee converseth withall by noe power of the Keyes A Watch-man giveth warning of the approach of the enemy and the common Souldier may doe the same the Schoolemaster teacheth one lesson the schoole-fellow teacheth that same the one by office the other of common Charity 2. The Pastour interpreteth the word the private person doeth but use apply and accommodate the sense and interpretation of the word to his owne act of beleeving and the acts of admonishing rebuking comforting his brother Twelfthly they object against Synods The Pope is the Antichrist because he willeth men to appeale from their owne Churches to him as Whittaker and Chamier prove but the doctrine of the Synods teach men to appeale from particular Churches to Synods and by no word of God have Pastors power over other Congregations nor their owne Answ. Antioch appealed from corrupt teachers Acts 15. 2 3. and that is Apostolike but to appeale from a Church to a man of sin as if he were the whole Church is Antichristian 2. If sixe beleevers in a Congregation of forty beleevers should censure a brother our brethren would say that brother should appeale from these sixe who yet make an independent Congregation to the Church of forty yet should not this be Antichristian 3. To appeale from a Church as an unlawfull judicatory is unlawfull but to appeale from a lesser Church as from a not competent Judge to that same Church in a larger meeting is most lawfull 4. That Pastors of divers Churches have power over many Congregations being convened in a Synod is cleare Acts 1. Acts 6. Acts 15. 13. They object That this wanteth antiquity Answ. This is said for the fashion what meaneth then the tomes of Councels the Councell of Sardis Laodicea Africa Toledo 4. Canon Law Cyprian Augustine Tertullus Irene Chrysostome c. CHAP. XVII Whether or no some doe warrantably teach that a Pactor hath no pastorall power to preach and administrate the Sacraments without the bounds of his owne Congregation and from whence essentially is the calling of a Pastor OVr brethren who teach that the ordination of Pastors is onely from that power of the keyes that they imagine to be in the body of beleevers must needs holding such an humane ministeriall Church fall in divers errors as 1. that he cannot officiate pastorally without that number of beleevers from whence essentially he hath his pastorall calling 2. When the Churches necessity shall call him to remove to another independent flocke He is no Pastor while he be ordained and chosen of new by that flocke So the English Puritanisme and M. Best We hold that a Pastor may officiate as a Pastor without his owne congregation 1. Arg. That which the brotherhood and communion of sister-Sister-Churches requireth to be done that Pastors may lawfully doe but this the brotherhood of Sister-Churches requireth to be done Ergo c. the assumption is proved 1. Because death or necessary absence of Pastors necessity of keeping the flocke 2. Necessity of convincing the gainsayers if the present Pastor be weake in learning yet able to cut the word aright saith M. Paget requireth this M. Best answereth Officers of Churches may be helpfull to other Churches as Christians but not as Ministers Answ. This Argument presupposeth that Pastors not as Pastors but as Christians either may administer the Sacraments lawfully and so any Christian may administer the Sacraments which is both Popish and absurd or that it is not lawfull for Pastors to administer the Sacrament out of their owne congregation or to any other of another congregation then their owne and so yet communion of sister-Sister-Churches in these acts is cleane taken away 2. Our Argument is from Church-communion not in Christian acts as Christian but in ministeriall acts as ministeriall 2. Arg. If Ministers as M. Paget argueth may labour to convert unbeleeving strangers and to adde them to their flocke that they may enlarge Christs kingdome then they may exercise Pastorall acts over and above others then these of their owne charge but the former is true Ergo so is the latter The assumption is cleare because Prov. 93. Wisdome sendeth out her maids to call in these that are without and 1 Cor. 14. 24. the Prophets as Prophets were pastorally to convince and so to convert In●idels who were not of their charge M. Best answereth These acts are not acts of a Minister as a Minister a man and a wife a father and a childe a Pastor and a flocke are relatives as I am a Father I exercise not proper acts as a Father but towards my owne children what good I doe to others cannot be said to be the acts of a Father but rather of a friend a neighbour a Christian c. Answ. He presumeth that a Pastor may preach and exercise pastorall acts as a Christian but so all Christians may pastorally preach though not called of God contrary to the Scripture so women and private persons may invade the Pastors chare 2. It is vaine to presse similitudes while they blood for Christ properly is the bridegroome and husband of his Church Eph. 5 6 27. John 3. 29 Rev. 19. 9. Rev. 21. 9. Is● 54 5. Pastors are but the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 under suitors for the bridegroome John 3. 29. This is Popish doctrine to make such a relation betwixt a mortall man and an independent Church Pope Enaristus and Calix●us saith while the Bishop liveth the Church can no more bee given to another without his consent nor the wife can bee given to another then to her owne husband without his consent And so said Innocentius the third therefore at the consecration after imposition of hands saith Vasquez and anointing of the Bishop and delivering to him a staffe a consecrated and blessed ring is put on his ring-finger in token he is married to the Church but what have we to do with such trash as this For in a word the comparison of a marriage in this point is either Popish or unseasonable or both because the mutuall consent betwixt A. B. and his wife being essentially marriage as the Canon Law Divines and sound Casuists acknowledge it maketh A B. a husband and also the husband of such a wife during their life-time but election of the people that A. B. be their Pastor and A. B. his acceptation of the Church as his charge maketh him not both a Pastor and also the Pastor of that Church because the ordination of the Presbytery maketh A. B. formally and essentially a Pastor I meane a called Pastor under Christ but the election of the people and his consent doth not make him a Minister but doth only appropriate him after he is made a Minister to be the Minister of such a Church and so the comparison halteth in the maine point for which it is alleadged therefore A. B.