Selected quad for the lemma: church_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
church_n	communion_n	hold_v	schism_n	2,955	5	9.8292	5	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A50329	The antithelemite, or, An answer to certain quaeres by the D. of B. and the considerations of an unknown author concerning toleration	Maurice, Henry, 1648-1691.	1685 (1685)	Wing M1359; ESTC R3722	42,710	78

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