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esset_fw-la cùm_fw-la fabiani_n locus_fw-la i._n e._n cum_fw-la loous_a petri_n &_o gradus_fw-la cathedrâ—e_fw-la sacerdotalis_fw-la vacaret_fw-la quo_fw-la occupato_fw-la de_fw-la dei_fw-la voluntate_fw-la atque_fw-la omnium_fw-la nostrúm_fw-la conseasione_n firmato_fw-la quisquis_fw-la jam_fw-la episcopus_fw-la fieri_fw-la voluit_fw-la foris_fw-la fiat_fw-la necesse_fw-la est_fw-la nec_fw-la habeat_fw-la ecclesiasticam_fw-la ordinationem_fw-la qui_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la non_fw-la tenct_n vnitatem_fw-la quisquis_fw-la ille_fw-la fuerit_fw-la multum_fw-la de_fw-la se_fw-la jactans_fw-la &_o sibi_fw-la plurimum_fw-la vindicans_fw-la profanus_fw-la est_fw-la alâ—…nus_fw-la est_fw-la foris_fw-la est_fw-la et_fw-la cùm_fw-la post_fw-la primum_fw-la secundus_fw-la esse_fw-la non_fw-la possit_fw-la quisquis_fw-la post_fw-la unum_fw-la qui_fw-la solus_fw-la esse_fw-la debeat_fw-la factus_fw-la est_fw-la non_fw-la jam_fw-la secundus_fw-la ille_fw-la sed_fw-la nullus_fw-la est_fw-la ep._n 52._o thus_o it_o be_v plain_a that_o the_o grand_a reason_n why_o st._n cyprian_n give_v the_o cause_n against_o novatian_n be_v because_o cornelius_n in_o the_o vacancy_n of_o the_o see_v be_v canâ—…nically_o place_v there_o before_o he_o if_o therefore_o a_o bishop_n be_v thrust_v into_o the_o place_n of_o another_o who_o be_v lawful_o bishop_n of_o the_o place_n all_o such_o transaction_n be_v void_a and_o null_a in_o themselves_o and_o all_o that_o forsake_v their_o true_a bishop_n and_o join_v with_o he_o who_o be_v thrust_v in_o be_v schismatic_n and_o though_o there_o shall_v be_v any_o penalty_n or_o deprivation_n befall_v the_o bishop_n yet_o if_o it_o be_v such_o which_o in_o its_o own_o nature_n do_v only_o amount_v to_o a_o suspension_n it_o can_v make_v the_o place_n capable_a of_o another_o bishop_n because_o notwithstanding_o the_o present_a restraint_n he_o remain_v bishop_n still_o though_o under_o a_o kind_n of_o a_o arrest_n and_o in_o such_o case_n the_o return_n of_o the_o use_n and_o exercise_v of_o that_o authority_n which_o all_o this_o while_n be_v real_o lodge_v in_o he_o be_v to_o be_v