never brings with it a return of sweetness every motion and advance against it though of the slowest is too great haste 4. Pray much for Divine Leadings and Direction before you set upon the work of making your Reply hereunto and every step you take in it And let 's discern you have been much in this duty by that meek and Gospel-Spirit with which your next shall be leavened 5. If you think it of concern seriously weigh whether this writing of yours tend to the extirpation of Popery and Prelacy with its Hierarchy and the promoting Reformation according to the VVord of God and the best Reformed Churches For Oaths the Land mourns The Lord grant we may do so too Lastly Review if you please the ensuing Collections we have gathered out of your own Writings from a cursory view of some of them which are if we mistake not opposite to what you at present plead for And if you think meet reconcile your self unto your self and blame not me Sir that I thus deal with you I do but follow the pattern you have given me in your dealing with Mr Baxter formerly and Mr. John Goodwin of late after this manner Collections out of Mr. T. his Writings If this Argument proceed it will follow there is some National Church amongst the Gentiles as of old amongst the Jews which is not to be granted In his exercitation concerning Infant Baptism pag. 21. Institution is the Rule of exhibiting Worship to God ibid. pag. 23. If Institution be the Rule of Worship it is necessary that he that shall administer the Worship bind himself to the Rule otherwise he will devise Will-worship and arrogate the Lords Authority to himself Surely the Apostle in the business of the Lords Supper insinuates this when being about to correct the aberrations of the Corinthians concerning the Lords Supper he brings forth these words 1 Cor. 11. 23. For I have received of the Lord ibid. pag. 24. The use of Sureties in Baptism and Episcopal Ordination he asserts to be Humane Inventions Ibid. p. 29. The Common-Prayer-Book and Hierarchy have no true ground from Christs Institution which alone can acquit it from Will-worspip Examer p. 3. Episcopacy is now found an abuse ibid. p. 24. I have entred into Covenant to endeavour a Reformation as well as you and though I have not had the happiness as indeed wanting ability to be imployed in that eminent manner you have been in the promoting of it in which I rejoyce yet have I in my affections sincerely desired it in my intentions truly aim'd at it in my Prayers heartily sought it in my Studies constantly minded it in my endeavours seriously prosecuted it for the promoting of it greatly suffered aâ— having as deep an Interest in it as other men ibid. pag. 26. When I consider how exact a Reformation our Solemn Covenant binds us to endeavour ibid. p. 27. 'T is a dangerous principle That in meer positive things we may frame an addition to Gods Worship They that read the Popish Expâ—sitors of their Rituals do know that this very Principle hath brought in Surpliâ—e Purification of Women ibid. p. 29. If any take upon them to appoint to mens consciences any rite in whole or in part it is an high presumption in such against Christ and against the Apostles commands to yeeld to it Col. 2. 20. Though it hath a shew of wisdom vers 23. And the Apostles example Gal. 2. 3 4 5. binds us to oppose it ibid. pag. 30. And p. 31. He commends a passage in a Sermon of Mr. Marshals on 2 Chr. 15. 2. Who admires that ever mortal man should dare in Gods Worship to meddle any further than the Lord himself hath commanded For had it been a will-Worship it had been a sin if they had received it speaking of the Circumcision of the Females there being no command to do it As it had been a sin for a Child to be circumcised afore or after the eighth day in them that altered or swerved from the appointment of God ibid. p. 37. No reason of ours in positive Worship can acquit an action that is performed from will-Worship nothing but Gods Will manifest in his Institution can do it ibid. p. 38. see p. 111 132. Full Review of the Dispute concerning Infant Baptism Sect. 1. P. 2. Against Prelacy Holy-dayes Surplice there have been many and just declamations Ibid. P. 110. The Superstitious custom of keeping Easter and receiving the Communion once a Year on that Day which I think you will be ashamed of p. 119. Unless you will altar the definition of Will-worship according to Mat. 15. 9. in point of Worship that is excluded which is not expressed p. 132. And though all do not joyn in breaking of bread speaking concerning the Godly in Bewdly some going to that Parson others declining him as a stranger to the private Meetings of the Godly and an adversary to such godly Preachers as they had gotten for the Chappel went to Mr. B. others being baptized have joyned with me He afterwards speaks of Mr. B ' s. Book charging them with Schism for Reforming themselves and afrighting people from their Society Praecurs Sect. 5. p. 10 11. The Baptized Christians with whom I hold Communion Full review of the dispute concerning Baptism Epist to the Reader The Christian Church consists not of a whole Nation but of so many persons as are called out of the world by the preaching of the Word to profess the Faith of Christ ibid. p. 221. I think my actions justifiable in celebrating the Lords Supper at Night as Christ did and admitting none but Baptized persons after profession of Faith ibid. pag. 239. Frequenting Church-meetings he makes to be one way of visible owning God ibid. p. 268. That there were some particular visible Churches in which were no Hypocrites may be true notwithstanding the Parables Mat. 13. 25. or 1 Tim. 3. 15. compared with 2 Tim. 2. 20. p. 284. There is not any likelyhood that a bare dissembled profession should make such an external relation to God and his Church ibid. p. 298. To confine the tearm Heathens onely to them that are not Christians in Name is indeed according to the vulgar speech but beside the Scripture use ibid. p. 261. We do neither in practice nor opinion maintain such impure Churches of ignorant and vicious persons as Mr. Bl. and the Presbyterians commonly do ibid. p. 262. The essence of the Church consists in the association or union of the Members which is given by such transeunt fact as whereby God separates them from others and unites and incorportes them together which I call the Church-call agreeably to the Scripture Rom. 9. 24 25 26. 1 Cor. ☞ 2. 24. which Church-call now is not by any coercive power of Rulers but by the Spirit and preaching the Gospel ibid. p. 320. Nor did I joyn any in Communion till I saw that those that did their duty in being Baptized were rejected and made
these words They make an Image to the Beast Rev. 13. 14 15. i. e. erect an Ecclesiastical state of Government in a proportionableness to and resemblance of the Civil State This Ecclesiastical state of Government I assert to be the Image of the Beast by worshipping it I mean no more than subjecting bowing down to or owning of this Ecclesiastical-State which is no such direful expression amounting only to thus much A Christian Testimony against such as own subject to are partakers with the Ecclesiastical State and Government of the Church of England That there are some that do so Mr. T. will not deny nor can he that the Government of the Church is laid in a proportionableness to and resemblance of the Civil-State which I apprehending to be an evil 't is much to me a man of Mr. T. his sobriety should be offended at my bearing a Christian Testimony against it or interpret so sober a Title to be a direfull imputation c. I think not what he pleads for in the Treatise under consideration to be Theodulia or the Worship of God but am not provoked he so styles his Book because he thinks it is so yet have I as just cause to be offended thereat as he hath by the Title of the S. T. given him to be provoked Another stone of Offence in Mr. T. his way is That there are direful Predictions in the Epistle against hearing the present Ministers of England as if likely to meet with the same Judgments in the day of Gods wrath with the Antichristian Beast and seeming commiseration of such as joyn in Communion with the publick Church-Assemblies Answ And I am sorry these things are provoking to him Can he not hear sin condemned and the warning of God against sinners given forth in Scriptural expressions from the Prophecies thereof but his spirit must rise against them He will one day know that another frame of spirit had better become him and would have conduced more to his true peace comfort and interest than that which was upon him under the reading those Scriptural Predictions for such are those mentioned in the Epistle though as Mr. T. speaks one would rather think them to be some Enthusiastical dreams than the Warnings of the Lord in the Scriptures sounded forth by an unworthy dust Commiseration he also discerns in those lines but understanding the hearts of the Children of men he can roundly pronounce of it Audacter satis that I say not blaspheme that it is but seeming commiseration at the best this is an evil surmise a fruit of the flesh to be bemoaned and mourned over I can assure Mr. T. that they are not seeming but real Commiserations and that my soul is sorely afflicted within me because of the Wrath of the Lord that is like to be poured forth for the transgression and sinful complyance with the corrupt and superstitious Worship of the Nation after God hath from Heaven witnessed against it and so many of the precious Children of God have sealed a Testimony with their dearest Blood against it of the professing People of God in England upon them and I cannot but once more cry aloud to them and to this Animadverter to hasten their escape from the Tents of these false Shepherds and Assemblies lest being complicated and twisted together with them they share of the judgement is like to be poured forth upon them God is a jealous God and will in his jealousie plead with those that teach for Doctrines the Commandments of men and worshiâ— according to their Precepts And what I said then I say again now who knows not intimating as Mr. T. falsly suggests that it would be but my own darkness as touching the extent of the long-suffering of the Lord to such as continue disobedient to his voice but this may be the last Warning you may have from God For his Throne is like the fiery flame and his Wheels as burning fire a fiery stream issues and comes forâ—h from before him Dan. 7. 9 10. He seems to be risen up against an hypoâ—ritical people and a speedy riddance will he make in the earth However these things may seem to Mr. T. to be brutum fulmen like a great thunderclap without any thunder-bolt in it as he speaks which makes my very soul pity him especially they being as I said the Prophecies of the Lord levell'd against the very persons against whom I level them My prayers to God for him shall be that they may prove words of awakening and humbling and not of destruction and further â—ddition of misery in the day of the Lord which without faith and repentance come between if for nothing but for that slight contemptuous frame of spirit upon him in the reading of them they are too like to be He adds that I judge such Complyance a damnable sin If he mean a sin that in its own nature deserves damnation I do so indeed nor can â— do otherwise not having imbraced that novel distinction of the Papists between damnable or deadly and venial sins as if the merit or wages of all sin were not death judging it as I do to be a sin But if by damnable he mean irremissible like that of Blasphemy against the Holy Ghost which he intimates as if I judged and suggested the sin of Complyance in some to be I must crave leave to tell him That I detest and abhor the least thought of any such thing 'T is true in the event it may be irremissible like the sin against the Holy Ghost and so may the least vain word but that I judge it is so in its own nature is an Assertion of that nature that nothing is more false and untâ—ue And I cannot but wonder with what forehead this Animadverter could impute it to me Nor can I guess at his design in so doing not the occasion administred by me I have read the Epistle over and find not the least prints or marks of such an Assertion If any words may be wrested to such an intendment I do here solemnly disclaim and â—isavow it professing from my very heart that I believe quite otherwise Our God is a God ready to pardon to multiply pardons though you have turn'd aside from him he will heal backslidings and love freely therefore poor hearts be not deterr'd from looking to him But he goes on which must needs produce these wofull effects 1. An irrâ—concileable enmity betwixt the Sepâ—â—â—tists and such as hold communion with the present Churches and their Pastors Answ But what will produce this effect will judging their sin to be irremissible This is a Calumny I know none that doth so Will the pleading for separation from that which God calls aloud to separate from I hope better And wish this Animadverter takes not a measure of others spirits by his own God forbid that any should be returning enmity for love The Lord knows out of greatned bowels of compassion I write what I write and after all
injury or offence committed against his Brother that is not a sin against God but in this sense we deny the offence here to be private and had Mr. T. by one Argument endeavoured to have evinced it he had done something a failure wherein renders the ensuing fabrick liable to sink with its own weight 1. Sins against our Brother are sins against God Psal 51. 4. Against thee only have I sinned saith David touching the wickedness he had wrought in the matter of Uriah 2. The word rendred trespass against thee Mat. 18. 15. is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which signifies properly to erre from the prefixed mark metaphorically to sin a sin or to do that which is contrary to the Law of God Alsted in Lex Theol. which though by it we are injured as a sin is properly against God As all Indictments in criminal pleas are stiled against the King his Crown and Dignity Nor can the Animadverter give one instance throughout the whole New-Testament of the use of the word for such a private offence or scandal committed against a Brother as is not a sin and transgression against God What he adds 2dly That the Brother against whom the trespass is committed might remit or forgive it is 1. more than the Scripture will justifie him in asserting Must be received cum grano Salis with caution or 't is plainly atheological 1. If he mean he might remit or forgive it so far as it was an injury to him 't is granted in â—ome cases he might but it is also a sin against God which he must not suffer to rest upon his Brother Levit. 19. 17. 2. If he mean that upon an acknowledgment of the offence and manifestation of sorrow and repentance so far as he is able to discern unfeigned he be bound to own and receive him as formerly without acquainting any others or the Church with it 't is undoubtedly true He hath attained the utmost end aimed at in the whole process viz. the conviction and bringing the offender to repentance and therefore need not advance one step further to do so were frivilous ridiculous irregular sinful an open breach upon all the rules of charity enjoyned by Christ But yet it follows not that by Church is not meant a particular Congregation but select Arbitrators When Mr. T. proves the consequence of this proposition The offended Brother may forgive the Offender upon his confession of and sorrow for his trespass committed so as to own him for a Brother without publishing his fault that was only known to them two to any other therefore by Church to whom without such acknowledgment and repentance he was to have communicated it we are to understand select Arbitrators I will be his convert In what he adds that there is no act ascribed to the Church save an Admonition to the injurious Brother to do right to him whom he hath wronged this Animadverter is evidently mistaken For 1st Here is a Juridicial Sentence ascribed to the Church vers 18. Verily I say unto you the Church whatsoever ye shall bind on Earth c. 2dly The issue or consequence of this Juridicial Sentence is That hâ— is to the Church for what one is lawfully to a part of the Body he is to the whole as a Heathen or Publican i. e. shut out of their Communion or Fellowship But Mr. T. is sure he tells us the Publicans were not excluded a sacris Answ 1. If by sacra he means those Ordinances that peculiarly related to them as members of the Judaical Church and by Publicans unproselyted uncircumcised Publicans 't is most false that such were not excluded a sacris They might not partake of the Passover with them to instance in no more particulars Exod. 12. 48. And Maimonides in Korban Pesach Cap. 5. Sect. 5. tells us That as the Circumcision of himself omitted debarreth him from keeping the Passover so doth the circumcision of his Sons and his Servants c. if omitted And if he kill it before he do circumcise them it is unlawful Of which R. Menacheâ— renders a reason on Exod. 12. Whilest the power of uncleanness and the superfluous foreskin is upon him c. he is unfit to be united with the divine Majesty c. 2. If by sacra he mean coming to their Synagogueâ— to hear them Preach or Expound the Law he speaks nothing to the purpose an Excommunicated person may come to the Church-Assemblies and hear and see what is done there as may an Heathen The Scripture instanc't in affords not the least sanctuary to his Assertion First 'T is a Parable and so it may be a supposition of what never was Secondly 'T is spoken it seems of a broken converted Publican He looked down smote upon his Breast cried out The Lord be merciful to me a sinner Thirdly 'T is not said that he joyned with the Jewish Church in any act of Worship That he went up 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to the Holy the whole building of the Temple consisting of an inward and outward Court is so called to pray is Parabolically said of him as of the Pharisee but both the one and the other prayed by themselves severally and apart vers 11. The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 word for word standing to himself or apart from the Publican he prayed these things O God I thank thee c. vers 13. And the Publican 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 standing a far off viz. in the first Court of the Temple where all sorts of People Publicans and Sinners might come 1 Kings 8. 41. Fourthly 'T is most certain and the Animadverter cannot be ignorant hereof That the Publicans were excluded not only a sacris which they were but also from Civil Communion so far as possibly they could insomuch as it was a great crime charged upon Christ by them That heate and drank with Publicans and Sinners and that more than once Matth. 9. 11. and 11. 19. Mark 2. 16. Luke 5. 30. and 7. 34. Accordingly upon this sentence of the Church upon the Offender the Members of the Society are to carry it towards him not only as towards a Heathen with whom they might have civil Commerce but as towards a Publican with whom they at that day had none 1 Cor. 5. 11. 2 Thes 3. 14. And he that should have seen the Publican Luke 18. if there was ever such a thing done praying in one Court and the Pharisee in another or if in the same Court one at one Corner and the other at the other apart by themselves would scarce have concluded that they held Communion together or inferred therefore the Publicans were not excluded a sacris Which Consequence Mr. T. will take time to make good usque ad Graecas Calendas It remains That forasmuch as by Church Mat. 18. 17. is not meant the Jâ—â—ish Synedrium nor the Lord Bishop and his Consistory nor the Civil Magistrate nor the Presbyterie nor Mr. T. his Select
amongst the Congregated Churches if but once 't is too often Though Mr. T. his expression intimates as if a frequent case which I cannot but tell him is a meer calumny 'T will not one day be for his credit however it may at present serve his design that he walks so much by that rule Calumniare fortiter aliquid adhaerebit 2. When it happens the exercise of those Rules of Condescention Love and mutual forbearance enjoyned by Christ upon his Disciples would soon put an end to the differences suggested But 3. If this will not do the calling-in the help of some sister-Sister-Church may quench the flames Yet 4. If nothing will do but through the prevalency of corruption Schisms remain amongst them and separation at the last each from other ensue to prevent this we must not lay aside an Institution of Christ 5. Besides the imposing a Minister upon a People by a Patron with a Bishops Institution and Induction hath more frequently and I am sure more justly and warrantably been the occasion of the offence and difference intimated Sect. 21. Of a visible instituted Church and its security from Apostasie What Errors and Corruptions unchurch a Church Of the National Church of England Of the Governours and Officers of a collapsed Church The condition of England's Church-Officers Of Separation from a collapsed Church Of Communion with a Church not rightly constituted and compulsion thereunto IN Sect. 23. Mr. T. transcribes the 7th Query in S. T. Whether any visible instituted Church in the world hath greater security against Apostasie from God and that sore judgment of having its Candlestick removed and being unchurched than that people of the Jews had If not then whether supposing a National Church to be of the Institution of Christ it may not so come to pass that it may be so overspread with corruptions â—hat it may lose the essence of a Church and justly be disrobed of that appellation To which he answers in the Affirmative and tells us that they justly plead it against the Church of Rome and that the promise Mat. 16. 8. doth not belong to any particular instituted Church in the World but to the invisible Church of Gods Elect. And we are of the same mind with him in this matter But lest any reflection of disparagement should from this Concession happen to the Church of England as a very dutiful Son he adds That not every no nor many corruptions of some kind do unchurch but such Errors as overthrow the foundation of Christian Faith Corruptions of Worship by Idolatry in life by evil manners utterly inconsistant with Christianity Answ 1. Nor did we ever assert that every or many corruptions of some kind did unchurch So that in this matter Mr. T. might have saved his pains Nor 2dly had we the least occasion to do so with respect to the Church of England which we deny to be a true Church not because dreadfully degenerate from what at first it was but because in its first Constitution as National which it received under the Paâ—acy it was never a true Church of Christ Though 3dly such fundamental Errors such corruptions in Worship and evil manners are to be found upon it that are inconsistant with the power of Godliness or Christianity and therefore such as by Mr. T. his Concession were enough to unchurch it To the eighth Query in S. T. viz. Whether the Ecclesiastick and Spiritual Rulers Governours and Officers of such a collapsed Church may not righteously as of old be accounted and esteemed as false Prophets that go about to cause the people to forget the Name of the Lord or his pure Worship by their lies or unscriptural Traditions Innovations and ceremonious Pageantries Mr. T. pretends to answer Sect. 24. which he fronts with this Every Error makes not a false Prophet which no one saith it doth And further by way of reply having placed in the Van 2 Pet. 2. 1. Jude 4. 1 John 4. 1. 2 John 7. 1 John 2. 22. which speak of false Prophets and Antichrist but advantage him not in the least in his present undertaking as we have manifested He adds that so long as they teach the Worship of Christ in his Name are without Idolatry in their Worship and Heresie in their Doctrine they are not to be accounted false Prophets Answ But this as to the present Ministers of England will not be granted They practise not the Worship of Christ but of Antichrist as we prove ch 7. of S. T. They come not really in Christ's Name though they pretend to it but in the name by the authority of the most profest enemy he hath in the world as we evince ch 3. of S. T. Though the Doctrine of the Church of Engl. be the most sincere part the greatest care of our Reformers at first being thereabout yet they own and preach false Doctrine the most of them are greatly degenerated from the Doctrine of the Church of England in not a few points as touching Election Free-will the extent of the Death of Christ c. as might be evidenced from their Sermons and printed Papers Of this we have spoken chap. 10. of S. T. The addition of this Animadverter of In Te ipsum cudetur faba as if guilty of the same things or such like as we charge upon the Ministers of the Church of England I challenge him to make good else he doth but calumniate His 25th Section is an Answer to the 9th Query in S. T. about separation from a Church so dreadfully collapsed as to lose the essence of a Church The sum is 1. Separation by reason of some corruptions is unwarrantable Answ And we say so too but this is not ad Rhombum we are speaking not of corruptions of any kind but of such as destroy the essence of a Church as is evident from the 7th Query in S. T. upon which this hath a dependance He adds 2dly Separation from a Church somewhat erroneous in judgment and corrupt in worship and conversation that is not Idolatrous nor heretical nor requires that to their Communion which would be sinful especially if from all attending on Ministers and Ministry at all times is unjustifiable Answ 1. All this might be granted without the least disadvantage to the Cause we are pleading 2dly By his own Sword is the Cause he undertakes the defence of wounded under the fifth rib We prove the Church of England Idolatrous Heretical She requires that to her Communion that is sinfull viz. Conformity to the Mass-book I should have said the Liturgie from thence stolen bowing at the Name of Jesus communicating with a Drunken Parish-Priest and a company of Swearing Drunken Parishioners whereby persons become one Bread with them kneeling at the act of receiving having their Children signed with the sign of the Cross which we are apt to think are things sinful and till Mr. T. is pleased better to inform us are like to abide in our present apprehension thereabout from
Sacrifice at Jerusalem was so but not elsewhere These things must be performed in the way appointed by him else they cannot be so accounted 2dly 'T is true bound we are to perform the duties they pretend to perform but according to the Institution of the Lord not mans devising as they are performed in the Church of England Isa 29. 13. Mat. 15. 7. 3ly Though it be no sin to joyn in the true Worship of God yet 't is a sin to joyn with false worshippers in a false way of Worship as praying after the way of the Common-Prayer-Book hearing an Antichristian Minister 4thly Believers 't is true might prophesie though unbelievers came in but it doth not therefore follow that ' â—is lawful for Believers to joyn with Unbelievers or forsake the Way and Institutions of Christ to go to the Assemblies of Unbelievers and hear them Prophesie As the worst of Ministers of whom he is discoursing and the generality of Parochial Assemblies undoubtedly are if a Spirit of prophaness visible debauchery an excess of riot bespeak persons to be such And from such he grants we are to separate by command from Christ 2 Cor. 6. 17. to which may be added Eph. 5. 11. 2 Tim. 3. 5. Acts 2. 39 40. But why talks he of our separating from them when they separate as much from us as we do from them we were never no more of them than they were of us Of Rev. 18. 4. we shall hereafter speak For the present we deny that by Babylon there is meant only literal Rome and expect the proof of his dictate The keeping company and eating interdicted 1 Cor. 5. 11. he tells us must be meant of eating Common Bread Because vers 10. That keeping company which is forbidden to such Brethren is allowed in vers 9 10. to the Fornicators of the world which cannot be gospel-Gospel-Communion keeping company in eating of the Lords Supper Answ 1. It seems then that with the Fornicators of the world we may not have gospel-Gospel-Communion if so then not with the Church of England for with it we cannot have Communion without holding fellowship with such as these 2dly If it be not lawful to have Communion with a Brother one of the same particular Church for of such an one the Apostle speaks that is a Fornicator or Covetous or an Idolater or a Railer or a Drunkard or an Extortioner so far as to common eating and drinking then a fortiori may we argue it is utterly unlawful to have communion with him in the Worship of God and much more unlawful to have fellowship with one we never walked with in the way of the Gospel according to any institution of Christ 3. That 't is lawful to hold Communion in eating the Lords Supper with Railers Drunkards c. I am sorry to find Mr. T. asserting of which we expect his proof The contrary is evident 1. Persons must be in a Church-state before they are capable of the regular enjoyment of that Ordinance which is a Church-Ordinance and part of Instituted Worship but Persons of such a Complexion are not fiâ— matter for a Church as we before proved Therefore 2. Those who ought to be excommunicated out of a Church were they in we may not have Communion with especially when in a false Church-state as is the case of the members of the Church of England But persons of such a character as the Apostle mentions should be excommunicated out of the Church Therefore 3. Those with whom we have Communion in breaking Bread as a Gospel-Ordinance with them we are one Bread 1 Cor. 10. 17. But we may not be one Bread with Drunkards c. Therefore 4. Those with whom we are commanded to have no fellowship with them we may not have fellowship in that Ordinance of breaking Bread But with such as these we are commanded to have no fellowship Eph. 5. 11. That the People of God can scarce ever break Bread with comfort in the best instituted Churches as he tells us from this doctrine is a notoriously false Crimination a meer Calumny His subsequent scoff is such froth and vanity as becomes not his years nor profession we pass it over as beneath us to take further notice of We add in S. T. 3dly That we cannot acknowledge the present Ministers for our Brethren but we must acknowledge the Bishops for our Reverend Fathers for theirs they are but that we cannot do To this Mr. T. adjoyns Sect. 5. 1. They are call'd their Reverend Fathers in respect of their Ordination Answ 1. But we cannot own them as Reverend Fathers with respect hereunto when we assuredly know they are herein usurpers of what doth not appertain to them But 2dly This is not all they own them as such upon the account of their Authority over them and the Parochial-Assemblies in the respective Diocesses who are to give forth Canons and Laws for them to walk by in not a few things relating to Worship as is known Now so we cannot own them as our Reverend Fathers we know no honour or obedience we owe them as such We think the inspection of one Bishop over an hundred Congregations can be proved by no better Arguments than the inspection of the Pope over an hundred thousand That a Diocesan and Oecumenical Bishop are much of the same kind and have their standing on the same foundation We know no Bishop of the institution of Christ but a Pastor of a particular Congregation He that pretends to more must prove his pretensions or we cannot but look upon him as an usurper I would gladly know whether Mr. T. thought it lawful to own them as his Reverend Fathers when he swore to exâ—irpate them with the whole Hierarchy and whether his so doing were an act of filial obedience That they are to be accounted Fathers in respect of their Antichristian Office because the Apostle saith 1 Tim. 5. 1. That an Elder is to be entreated as a Father when they are not Elders but a degree above them not from the Institution of Christ but the Courtesie at the best of Princes he will never prove Of their success in begetting others to Christ I understand nothing Those whom they have begotten may upon the account thereof esteem them as their Reverend Fathers but yet I am apt to think should they not be invested in the Title till then for the most of them at least they would go to their graves without it These are but Figleave-coverings The Animadverter knows they are not upon this bottom so called or accounted but with respect to that Office-power they have in the Church over the rest of the Ministers and Parochial-Assemblies thereof which being a meer incroachment usurpation and innovation we dare not own them as such We further argue in S. T. 4thly We cannot hear them as Brethren because they are if Brethren such as walk disorderly from whom we are bound to separate by express precept Mat 18. 2 Thess 3. 6. That they walk
detestandis Idolis The truth of these things is so generally known throughout the Nation that as I am sorry the mention thereof should drive Mr. T. into such a sweaâ—ing passion as it seems to do so can I not but wonder at his confidence in calling those things palpable gross untruths when the whole Nation knows the contrary His Satyrical expressions I omit The visible Lineaments and Characters of false Prophets being instamped upon the fore-heads of the present Ministers they are not to be heard but separated from CHAP. VIII Arg. 6. Sect. 1. A sixth Argument against hearing the present Ministers Saints must not have Communion with Idolaters The vanity of Mr. T. his arguings to the contrary evinced 1 Cor. 10. 14. 2 Cor. 6. 14 15 16 17 18 opened A threefold Idolatry Whether the Idolaters of old worshipped the creature terminatively Of the golden Calf Baal Molech That the Worshippers of them worshipped them not terminatively proved Of Devil-Worship Psal 106. 37 38 explained The Heathen Images dedicated to the true God The Testimony of the Heathens in this matter Of refined Idolatry Worshiping of God in a way not of his appointment is Idolatry The Testimony of Calvin Perkins Ames Pareus Willet Peter Martyr c. to the truth of the Assertion The Romans worshipped the Godds an hundred and seventy years and more without Images A Sixth Argument advanced in S. T. against hearing the present Ministers is this Those that are guilty of Idolatry Saints may not have communion with much less own them as their Teachers but ought to separate from them But the present Ministers of England are guilty of Idolatry Therefore The Major is bottomed upon express Commands from Christ 1 Cor. 5. 11. 10. 14. 2 Cor. 6. 14 18. To which Mr. T. replies 1. The Conclusion is not the same with that which Chap. 1. was undertaken to be defended That it is not lawful for Saints to hear the present Ministers which we may do though Communion with them be unlawful though we are bound not to own them as our Teachers but separate from them Answ Now this I confess I understand not Communion consists in giving and receiving a constant or frequent attending upon any ones teaching especially when by the Prelates instituted and inducted to such a Parish as a Teacher whereof I am a Member is an Argument of my owning him for my Teacher Separation from any one consists in this that I have no Communion with him in that in respect of which I am bound to separate from him That I should with frequency hear a man preach as a Minister of the Gospel and yet be said to have no Communion with him to separate from him is an Aenigma that needs some Oedipus to unravel He tells us 2dly The Major is not true if the Idolatry be in worshiping in any other way than what he hath prescribed or if the Idolatry be secret or if open if by infirmity a man falls into it and repents or be not censured as such or teacheth not such Idolatry nor requires any communion with him in his Idolatry Answ 1. If the Major be not true it follows that its lawful to have Communion with Idolaters for with persons guilty of Idolatry the Major saith we must not have Communion Mr. T. is driveâ— to his shifts indeed when to defend the cause he hath undertaken he is forced to plead for such gross absurdities so contradictory to the Scriptures and the judgment of all sober Christians that ever were in the world 2. If worshipping God in another way than he hath appointed be in Scripture Idolatry and in it we are commanded to abstain from such Worship and Worshippers then though the Idolatry consist therein the Major is true When the Scripture commands us to flee from Idolatry it means that which is so in its own sense not Mr. T 's 3. 'T is true I am not to separate from a person I know not to be guilty of Idolatry till I know he is so but this reacheth not the case of the present Ministers whom we prove manifestly guilty hereof When Ezekiel once came to understand that the Antients of the House of Israel committed Idolatry in the Chambers of their Imagery Ezek. 8. 7 to 13. he might not have Communion with them though they committed it in the dark 4. Repentance restores a man fallen into the same place amongst the Saints he was in before he fell but this is not at all to the purpose the present Ministers justifie their actings would compel aâ—l to do as they do 5. That 't is not our duty to separate from Idolaters till they are under Church-censure is a meer fancy 1st What if they are such as are in no Church-state persons without with whom the Church hath nothing to do 2dly What if the so called Church be generally overspread with Idolatry as our Animadverter will confess the Church of Rome is must I wait the Churches censure till I refuse to hold communion with Idolaters Is it ever likely that an Apostate Idolatrous Church will pass sentence upon it self or rational that I hold communion with them till they do So is 6. That 't is not our duty so to do except they teach it and require my communion with them in it For 1. he that practiseth it teacheth it by his practice 2. As it relates to the present Ministers 't is vain and frivolous they both practise and preach it and require my communion with them in it He saith 3dly The Texts do not prove the Major Answ Let the judicious Reader judge for himself whether they do or no 1 Cor. 5. 11. we have already vindicated from his exceptions That 1 Cor. 10. 14. is not to our purpose because the Apostle onely saith Flee from Idolatry not from teachers that are Idolaters is a fond conceit The intendment of the Apostle is to provoke to the greatest circumspection not onely to avoid the thing it self which saith Pareus Was not only the gross Idolatry of the Gentiles but every kind of Idolatry but all the occasions thereof And certainly the hearing or attending on the ministry of persons guilty of Idolatry is no mean occasion thereof 2 Cor. 6. 14 15 16 17 18. commands separation from the Idol Mr. T. grants Now I must profess I know not by what Logick he will prove that though it be my duty to separate from Idols I may so far retain communion with the Idolater as to own him for my Teacher the very repeating these absurdities is confutation sufficient Before we attempt the proof of the minor Proposition we premise in S. T. That Idolatry may be considered under a threefold Notion 1. Most gross and absurd Idolatry when the creature is worshiped terminatively This we say few are guilty of In the matter of the golden Calf Israel was not they worshipped God in it Exod. 32. 5. Maimonides de Idolat 8. 2 3. tells us That through the Idols Idolaters worshipped
may put Mr. T. to the blush upon the review thereof He argues further Arg. 25. Schismatical and arrogant conceits that the VVord of God is from them as the only right Teachers or confined to them as the only persons to whom it was communicated and from whom it might be received is condemned by the Apostle 1 Cor. 14. 36. But such conceits and inclosures they have and make who deny the present Ministers to be heard conceiving the separated Churches and Ministers the only right Churches and Ministers to be heard Therefore Answ 1. We deny the Minor we make no such inclosures as the Apostle condemns which are not what are mentioned by this Animadverter There were no Churches of Christ in the world at that day so much as in Name and pretence but such as were separated these were the right Churches and no other no ordinary Ministers but such as were related to and Ministers of such separated Churches This the Apostle cannot be supposed to condemn But if this be not that he condemns What is it Briefly 2. The Church of Corinth was one of the most famous Churches of Christ upon the account of what is mentioned by the Apostle Chap. 12. at that day in the world by reasoâ— whereof they were apt enough to be sweld puft up against other Churches that were as equally the Churches of Christ as they who had not the excellency of gifts they had This the Apostle condemnes in them and gives them to understand that the Word of God came not out from them they were not the first Church to whom it was communicated and from whom it was transmitted unto others nor came it unto them only i. e. other Churches had received embraced it as well as they therefore they ought not to carry it proudly towards them which what it makes against the inclosure our Animadverter mentions I know not The Apostle condemns one Congregational Church for being puft up against another therefore to assert Congregational Churches and Ministers to be the only right Churches and Ministers is condemn'd by him is such a strange consequence as will never readily be imbraced But 3. we make not such inclosures I believe there are hundreds in England that are not of that way who have the Spirit of God and are deservedly to be attended in their Ministration of the Word of Truth That because we deny it lawful to hear the present Ministers we must be necessitated to deny the hearing of all others but men of Congregational Principles is a supposition as monstrously false and absurd as the former We give some special and peculiar grounds of our not hearing those that can be applied to no other He adds Arg. 26. The Apostle Phil. 3. 15 16. presseth such as were perfect or well instructed in the Christian Doctrine of liberty from the Mosaical Laws not to separate from but hold Communion with such as were weak in the Faith and otherwise minded that thought Mosaical Laws were yet obligatory Therefore we may not separate from Christians and Ministers by reason of diversity of judgement about Church-Government and Liturgy and different practice about Conformity and Non-conformity to them which are of less moment than those differences about Meats and Dayes Answ 1. We deny his Consequence That because it was the duty of Saints to hold Communion in a true Church-State without altercations about Meats or Drinks therefore 't is our duty to hold Communion with a false Church and a false Ministry our Animadverter can never prove 2. That the business of Church-Government wherein the Kingship of Christ in a great measure lies is of no more moment than the eating or not eating about which the contests among the primitive Believers in the dawning of the Day of the Gospel did in a great measure lie he will not easily demonstrate 3. That the retention for a while of Mosaical Ceremonies whilst the Temple was yet standing to which they were affixed should be a greater ground of separation from a true Church of Christ then the reception imbracement of the Liturgy and Ceremonies of Antichrist in and by a false Church and Ministry from it is as absurd an assertion as ever dropped from the mouth or pen of so learned a person And yet fail he in the proof hereof this Argument is of no moment We attend his next Arg. 27. The holy Ghost hath recorded the prophesie of Balaam Num. 24. 3 4. Of Caiaphas Joh. 11. 51 52. Yea the sayings of Infidel Iâ—olatrous Poets Acts 17. 28. 1 Cor. 15. 33. Tit. 3. 12. Therefore it 's lawful to hear the present Ministers Answ Now I confess if he be able to make good this Argument it will follow that we may not attend the Ministry of the present Ministers of England only but the very vilest and worst of men Yeâ— I think we may righteously deny his Consequence and expect his proof thereof before we credit it The reading of Poets or citation of them is no part of instituted Worship as I remember which we have proved hearing the present Ministers to be He proceeds Arg. 28. The Apostle 1 Thes 5. 20 21. requires Christians not to despise prophesyings but to prove all things and hold fast that which is good And the Apostle 1 John 4. Believe not every Spirit but try the Spirits whether they are of God They make it not sin meerly to hear them that are erroneous if they try them they may hear pretenders prophesying if they prove it much more those Ministers who preach truth Answ 1. Prophesyings are not to be despised all things are to be proved the Spirits to be tried whether they are of God buâ— all this must be done in his own way For persons from hence to take liberty to go to Mass hear the Jesuites frequent the meetings of Ranters is dangerous and a plain tempting of God 2. Why he should accommodate 1 Thes 5. 20. to the preaching of the present Ministers and impose it upon us as our duty not to despise prophesyings who tells us pag. 136. l. 30. That he knows not of any at this day that have the gift of prophesie I understand not 3. 'T is abominable wickedness to violate other commands of Christ upon the pretext of these Scriptures and a plain irrision of Christ when he hath charged us as we have pâ—oved to have nothing to do with such a generation for us upon pretence of trying all things to attend their Ministry and Worship is abominable prophaness not to be justified 4. There are some things so visibly opposite to Christ and his wayes that they need no trial in order to a discovery Whether drunken ignorant Priests the shame and contempt of the Nation be Ministers of the Gospel Whether a formal sapless self-devised Worship and Ministry from the Pope and Bawd of Rome be the Worship and Ministry of Christ are things so palpably and noâ—oriously foreign to the Scriptures that a man need not put them to the
no such Rabbi besides himself If a man seriously intend to pluck up the roots of this Separation he must I humbly conceive do these five things 1. Manifest that the terminus a quo or that from which any separate iâ— of the Institution of Christ because to separate from that which is not so is no-where that I know of in the Scripture condemned as sinfull but enjoyned us as our duty To pursue us with outcryes that we are Separatists and Schismaticks because we have separated from the Church of England without any tender of proof that it was ever rightly constituted according to the mind of Christ is but in my poor judgment to do as he Caput altum in praelia tollit Ostendit que humeros latos alternaque jactat Brachia protendens verberat ict bus auras but beat the Air. 2dly That the Church on People separated from if ever of the Institution of Christ are not so degenerated and apostatized from what it was at first that 't is now quiâ—â— another thâ—ng retaining little besides the name and shadow oâ— a â—hurch so dreadfully corrupted and fallen that the ends of gospel-Gospel-communion cannot be attained nor enjoyed in it nor is it in â—n utter impossibilâ—ty of recovering to its pristine state of Gospel-order and purity A departure from such a collapsed Church being abundantly warranted in Scripture enjoyned to Saints as their duty The Church of Rome was once a pure Church of the Institution of Christ whilst it abode so it was ordinarily the duty of its Members to continue in the communion thereof but when once it apostatized and so irrecoverably fell as that there remained no probability or possibility of its recovery and healing it became the duty of the Saints concerned in its Communion to separate from her according to Rev. 18. 4. 3dly That those against whom this Charge is laid be proved once regularly to belong to that Church which whatsoever is pretended by this Animadverter none can do but by their voluntary consent from which they are supposed to separate For sure it will not be pleaded that a man is 〈◊〉 a Separatist from that Church true or false to which he had no union or relation as a visible Member thereof For any one to have joyn'd to the Church of Sardis could not as I conceive be adjudged separation from the Church of Ephesus supposing he never was by his own free consent a member of the Ephesins Church Now this is the case of most of the Members of the Congregated Churches they were never by their own voluntary consent Members of the Church of England and therefore cannot justly be charged with sinful separation from it 4thly That the means or way of Separation Secession or departure be unwarrantable I conceive the Animadverter is of that opinion that it is lawful under some circumstances to depart from the visible Communion of a true Church of Christ without being guilty of such rigid Separation If he judge the Church of England to be a true Church and the Parish-Churches thereof as such it 's possible to leave the outward Communion of the one and the other without being guilty of sinful Separation otherwise Mr. T. will make more Separatists than he is aware of every one removing out of one Parish to dwell in another and joyning with the same numerical Ordinances there that goes out of the Nation and joyns with the Church suppose in France or Bohemia being so 5thly He had need also prove that their Separation be not for this end to enjoy the Ordinances of God in power and purity but meerly for the satisfying their lusts no other Separation being condemned in the Scripture Till this be done the discharging of many vollies of hard and lofty expressions of gathering Churches out of Churches being Schismaticks Separatists c. will be very insignificant to the Judicious however they may affright the the weak from closing with that way though of God which is with much obloquy declaimed against by persons of Mr. T. his learning and sobriety But he hath not yet done he thinks himself obliged to pluck up these roots of bitterness out of his great respect to the publick peace An unhandsome insinuation to say no more secretly accusing those that are for the principles in the aforesaid Tracts which he cannot but know many truly fearing God in the Nation are as the disturbers of the Peace of the Nation thereby rendring them odious to the Rulers thereof and himself lovely Gallinae Filius albae But Sir what are the Seeds sown in those Treatises that do endanger the disturbance of the peace of the Nations If he conceive that an Uniformity of Worship is necessary for the preservation of the Nations peace and somewhat opposit to this Uniformity being asserted in them they are destructive thereof he knows he hath more Antagonists than one in that Assertion and who they are that have asserted and proved that the ground of the late Confusions and Garments rolled in Blood was not discrepamy in Worship but the rigid pressing of Conformity Nor is he a stranger to this That the peace of the Nations abroad is preserved where Uniformity is not pressed and hath been at home in the dayes of the greatest Toleration and therefore no reason but it may be here again If he mean that the spirits of his Antagonists and such like are against the Peace of the Nation he deals injuriously none being more for Peace upon the most righteous and lasting foundations than they which will be and not till then whatever the contrivements and attempts of men are when the Interest of Nations is laid in a subserviency to the true Interest and Kingdom of Christ which we are praying for that the time â—ay come in which those Prophecies shall have their full accomplishment Isa 2. 4. Mic. 4. 3 4. In the mean while we are not a little comforted that thus persecuted they the Prophets Elijah was the troubler of Israel so was Jeremy Christ he was an enemy to Caesar likely enough to assume the Government and he is no friend to Caesar that goes about to preserve his life the Apostles who were men that turned the world up side down This smiting his fellow-servants will one day be no joy of heart to him to think of He tells us thirdly He was hereunto provoked by the direful imputation of serving the Image of the Beast which the Title chargeth upon the hearing the present Ministers Answ But 1. why should this provoke him when he tells us pag. 7. that the Book so far as he can learn hath been dispersed chiefly if not only amongst persons who were not able to examine what is said by Fathers Councils Schoolmen who 't is more than probable thought that the English Title was all that was signified by the Greek one till Mr. T. explained it to them 2dly What I mean by the Image of the Beast I intimate p. 53. of S. T. where are
if I meet with such a returnal as that intimated I hope never to live through the rich grace of the Lord to see that day in which I should be repaying any that may be possessed with enmity against me in their own kind or cease to love pity and pray for them Can we not differ in opinion and tell each other in plainness of the guilt and evil we discern on each other but this direful effect of irreconcilable enmity must be produced I hope not enmity much less irreconcilable enmity And am perswaded that this Animadv cannot justly charge any of the Separatists as he in scorn calls them with any such thing And believe that God will help poor dusts to such a measure of a Gospel-spirit that there shall not be the least of the frame mentioned budding or putting forth upon them And because I conceive it may be needful I shall mind Mr. Tombs of what he hath sometimes read in the Preface to the Harmony of Confessions published in the name of the French and Belgick Reformed Churches Praeclare quodam loco dicit Ambrosius inter servos Christi contentio non debet esse sed collaâ—io qnum enim sit ea mentis humanae hebetudo in rebus praesertim divinis ut res alioqui maxime claras saepe perspicere non possimus quin ex mutua 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 amicâ fraternâque disceptatione plurimum lucis assequamur negari nullo modo potest Contendere vero rixari ferociter ac proterve digladiari tantum abest ut deceat à Deo institutos homines ut ne modestis aut humanis quidem conveniat Equidem Sancta Sanctè ac Religiose sunt tractanda in timore Divini Numinis et Charitate proximi which I wish him to make his Copy when he next writes Controversies 2dly The ruine of many thousands in their Liberties Estates Lives if the Law should not be mitigated is the next doleful effect mentioned Answ That the preservation of these so far as honestly we may is a moral duty I grant These effects are not the issue of imbracing the opinions and principles pleaded for in that Treatise but of those grievous and unrighteous Decrees by which the Child of this mans tuition hath ever even from its swadling-clouâ—s I mean the Common-Prayer-Book Worship been fostred and sustained The effects mentioned are no other than hath been the usual attendment of imbracing the Gospel which our Lord tells us we must expect if we will be his Disciples Nor are they as this Animadverter calls them woful effects but blessed and glorious being brought upon us for Christ's for the Gospels-sake in which he would have us to rejoyce with leaping joy Mat. 5. 10 11 12. And many of the Children of the Lord have taken them joyfully Heb. 10. 34. Nor is this any better reason for the Animadverter's advance against the Treatise under consideration than was that of Lycurgus who would have the Vines destroyed because the fruit of them made men drunk nor yet indeed is it so good â—or any other than what he might frequently have had to engage him to write against the reception of the Gospel and at this day in many places against the Doctrine of the Reformed Protestants The imbracing that Doctrine producing such a woful effect if it must be so called An Apology for Christians that could not in conscience submit to the Cereâ—onies of the Church of England to the Rulers thereof as Justin Martyr and others in their day for the repealing or mitigating the gâ—ievous Decrees established had been a more proper and Christian imployment than by such invectives as are frequently and false charges given forth in these Animadversions for the further incensing persons in authority against them As touching what is added from Dr. Burgess I assent to it but add 't is most impertinently and scandalously applyed to the men of his present contest God forbid we should call light darkness or darkness light Christ Antichrist or Antichrist Christ We desire the pulling down of nothing but what hath the lineaments of Antichrist as lively deciphered by the Spirit upon it And that God will pull down whether we speak one word against it or not The last account he gives us of his present undertaking is second to none in his Epistolary Preface viz. 1. The relation he hath met with of the endless brawls prodigious errours that have been the issue of Separation in former and latter times Answ And he knows 1. That the same might have been objected against the preaching of the Gospel at the very firsâ— As it was by the Heathens who boasted that no such things were the off-spring of their way as witness Clemens Alexandrinus Stromat l. 7. and Aug. L. de Ovibus chap. 15. what brawls and contentions what prodigious errours denying the Resurrection were there amongst the members of the Church of Corinth even when they met together for the solemnization of the same Ordinances the carrying on the same Worship in Paul's time and afterwards as appears from the Epistle of Clemens or the Church of Rome to them 2dly That the same things were objected against Luther and the great work of Reformation he was in the hand of the Lord carrying-on at that day who was so far from being startled hereat that he professeth Nisi tumultus hos vidissem Evangelium esse in mundo non crederem he should not have believed the Gospel had been preached in the world if he had not seen these brawls and tumults Nor 3dly is Mr. T. a stranger to what of late hath been charged upon Protestants with a design to perswade to a returnal to the Church of Rome upon the account of the schisms divisions brawls that have ensued separation from thence And with as good reason as this Animadverter chargeth these upon the Separatists out of a design to allure to Conformity Sir these things are to be charged upon the corruptions of mens hearts the malice and wrath of Satan against Truth which the more it displayes its Banner and breaks forth as the Sun out of the dark and thick clouds of Ignorance and Antichristian confusion shining gloriously in its native brightness the more mad is he against it and industrious to raise prejudices in the minds of men against its reception In which work I am sorry to find this Animadverter a coadjutor Though blessed be the Lord as to all the Congregations of the Separatists in England I know not one of whome it may not be said that the things here spoken by Mr. T. are false a meer calumny and yet they are not a few I am acquainted with The truth is these things may more truly be charged upon the members of the Church of England than on the Separatists as he calls them As for any brawls that may be amongst any of them 't is hoped touching them Mr. T. will be found a false Prophet and that they will not prove endless God can heal
that if her Worship be Fornication the Worship of England being the very Worship of Rome is so too From which Mr. T. tells us in this Sect. without controversie the People of God were to separate and have no communion with any in So that Habemus confitentem reum He passeth sentence upon himself in having communion with and pleading for the Church and Worship of England and aquits the Innocent in their righteous Separation there-from in that very Treatise he designed to justifie the one and condemn the other That which is further is a most sorry begging of the Question a piece of Sophistry this Animadverter is frequently guilty of the sum is But neither the Texts alledged nor any other do require separation from the Worship of God or the Ministers of God that are in some things corrupt even in their ministration which he exemplifies in Samuels ministring before the Lord and Hannâ—h's presenting him and her self at the solemn Feasts when Hophni and Phinehas did corrupt the Worship of God And those of Judah were not to separate from the service at Jerusalem which was to God while there was burning incense and sacriâ—icing on the high-places and though there were sundry corruptions in the Church and Services of the Jews yet did Christ joyn in the publick Service of the Temple and perswaded the cleansed Leaper to offer the Gift Moses had commanded From whence he infers That though there should be some degree of corruption in Worship yet this is not sufficient to justifie our Separation from the Church and Ministers of England Answ 1. That every corruption in Worship that every diâ—order in Church-administrations is a sufficient warrant for separation from the Worship Church or Churches that are of Divine Institution as was the Worship and Church at Jerusalem I no where asserâ— never thought 2dly Whilest from hâ—nce the Animadverter infers That though there should be some degree of Corruption in Worship yet this is not sufficient to justifie our separation from the Ministers and Church of England He doth but like an unwise Souldier that not well heeding the ground he stands on is displaying his Colours till he sinks into the Earth There is one thing wanting to his Inference that makes it too light to pass with persons but of ordinary understanding viz. That the Church oâ— England is a true Church the Worship thereof the true Worship of God a strong supposition whereof instead of evident demonstration is the Basis upon which the inference is built For what though there were Corruptions in the Church and Worship of Israel in Samuels time in Christ's time What if notwithstanding these Corruptions it were noâ— the duty of persons to separate from that Church and Worship which was originally from God what is this to the case of separation from the Church and Worship of England which this Animadverter knows we deny to be of God which when he or any one for him shall prove to be I do faithfully assure him never to plead for nor practise separation more which I speak from an assured confidence they can never be able so to do Though otherwise upon supposition it could be proved a true Church at first rightly constituted according to the mind of Christ such corruptions are to be found upon it that are sufficient to jâ—stifie any mans peaceable separation from it Though every corruption in Worship and Church-Administrations as was said will not do so There is nothing in this 4th Sect. of that moment as to require our stay in the consideration thereof Whether those eight Positions asserted in S. T. touching the management of affairs of old be evidently comprized in the Scripture or no may be perceived by the examination of Mr. T. his exceptions against them let the Christian and judicious Reader judge I argue not from thence by way of Analogy though I conceive the Institution being founded upon some command of Christ in the New Test the only warrant for the practice of Gospel-Appointments To argue from the carriage and deportment of Saints to Divine Ordinances of old to the carriage of Saints towards New Test Institutions from parity of Reason is neither irrational nor unwarrantable which when Mr. T. proves it to be or attempts to do so his Arguments shall be considered his second and third Sect. in his second part of the review of the dispute about Paedo-Baptism to which he directs us spake not a word hereunto as he knows Sect. 13. Of the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 what it imports Its acceptions in the Scripture 1 Cor. 12. 28. and 15. 9. Act. 4. 32. opened The Churches of Asia Galatia Judaea not National Diocesan or Provincial but particular Churches The foundation of Diocesan Churches Mat. 16. 18. and 18. 17. expounded By the Church not meant the Pope and his Cardinals a Synod the Bishop or Chancellors Court the Magistrate the Presbytery nor select Arbitrators but the whole Church consisting of Elders and Brethren proved IN Sect. 15th Mr. T. begins to consider the Queries in the Preface of S. T. and in answer to the first Query whether there be any National Church of the Institution of Christ under the Oeconomy of the Gospel he falls upon the consideration of the word Church and tells us in the New Testament it s taken for 1. An assembly of Unbelievers Act. 19. 32 39 40. 2dly For the Congregation of Israel in the Wilderness Acts 7. 38. 3 dly The Universal Church whether visible or invisible 1 Cor. 12. 28. Heb. 12. 23. Ephes 1. 22. 4 thly The visible Church indefinitely but not universally 1 Cor. 15. 9. 5 thly The Church Topical as of a City Town or House Act. 8. 1. Philem. 2. or of a Country or Nation and then it s put in the Plural Number as the Churches of Asia Galatia Judaea Answ 1. The word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Church is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to advocate or call out Because as saith Musculus in Rom. 1. 7. the Church is a number called out from the rest and in the general signifies any company of men singled out or separated from the rest for any end or purpose whatsoever That 't is of various acceptations in the Scripture cannot be denied some of which are rightly assigned by the Animadverter First 'T is taken for an Assembly of Unbelievers Acts 19. 32. 39. Secondly For the Congregation of Israel in the Wilderness Acts 7. 38. But Thirdly As touching the third acceptation of the word instanced in by this Animadverter we must crave leave a little to demur about it 1st If by the Universal Church visible he mean that which some call the Church-Catholick visible consisting of the universality of men professing the Doctrine of the Gospel and yeelding obedience thereunto throughout the World I do very much question whether the name of the Church be given to them throughout the Scripture The places instanc'd in by this Animadverter are remote from the proof of any
such thing 1 Cor. 12. 28. speaks not a tittle to it For 1. The Church vers 28. is the Body of Christ vers 27. This Paul tells them the Church of Corinth they were and every Saint in the Church a Member in particular 2. 'T is such a Church amongst whom a Schism might be vers 25. as in the Church of Corinth there actually was which was the occasion of Pauls writing to them That there should be no schism in the Body But Schism is entirely in one Church amongst the members of one particular Society saith that learned man J. O. in his Treatise of Schism Besides 3. It will be hard to prove that in the Church catholick-visible as such Officers are set and placed as 't is vers 28 29. These were in the Church of Corinth which was founded by Paul Acts 18. 8 9 10. Probably Peter had been there for he intimâ—tes That at least some of them had gloried overmuch in him 1 Cor. 3. 21 22. Cephas i. e. Peter Prâ—â—hets Teachers Miracles Gifts of heaâ—ing Helps Governments diversities of Tongues were found amongst them as is known Some of these there is no question but they relate to a particular Church That the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or Teachers here are the same who are elsewhere called 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Presbyters Elders and Overseers Mr. T. will not I presume deny Arguments lie near at hand for the demonstration thereof were it needful These are placed of God in particular Churches relate to them as such Acts 14. 23. 15. 2 4 6 22 23 16. 4. 20. 17. 21. 18. Tit. 1. 5. Jam. 5. 14. Act. 20. 28. Nor am I singular in the application of this Scripture to the particular Church of Corinth Pareus hath these words upon the place Et quia c. And because he had said that the Church of the Corinthians was the Body of Christ c. manifesting his consent and harmony with us herein that Paul is not treating of the Church-Catholick-visible but of a particular Church of Christ viz. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 of the Church of God that was in Corinth Nor can this Scripture be meant of the invisible Church of Christ for in it God hath placed no Officers that I know of nor will the Animadverter say he hath 2dly If by the Universal Church-visible he mean the Elect of God redeemed sanctified justified by the spirit of the Lord and the blood of Jesus These are indeed called by the name of the Church in Heb. 12. 23. Eph. 1. 22. To which we may add Mat. 16. 28. Eph. 5. 25 26. That the word Church 1 Cor. 15. 9. is taken for the visible Church indefinitely I cannot subscribe to Possible by the Church of God he means First The Churches of God by an usual Figure there being in those dayes few or no Believers but were added to one Church or other as might easily be demonstrated Acts 2. 41 42. and Acts 4. 32. The multitude of Believers is a Paraphrastical description of the Church Acts 5. 11. The great care of the Apostles was to reduce them that embraced and believed the Gospel into a Church-state or that Order of the Gospel which however oppugned by Mr. T. will be found to be of the Institution of Christ As is evident from the Churches in Jerusalem Acts 7. Samaria chap. 8. Antioch Chap. 14 15. In Syria Cilicia Acts 15. 41. Phrygia Galatia Acts 16. 5 6. Macedonia Chap. 16. Thessalonica Chap. 17. Achaia Chap. 18. Ephesus Chap. 19. Asia Rev. 1. and 2. and 3. Rome Rom. 1. c. planted by them notwithstanding the utmost attempts of the power of darkness or great Red Dragon in the Roman Pagan Empire and of the Children of the Kingdom or the chief Priests Scribes Pharisees Rulers multitudes of People especially of the baser sort fit for any desperate design contradicting blaspheming opposing them herein When once we read of the Gospel preached and mingled with Faith in them that hear it the next news we frequently hear is that these Believers embody together for the worshiping God in the same numerical Ordinances the enjoyment of those priviledges and mutual performance of those duties which in a scattered individual state and capacity they were not capable of Though Secondly By way of eminency he might in that expression and no doubt he did so I persecuted the Church of God have his eye upon that famous Church of Jerusalem in the persecution and dispersion whereof he had it seems no mean hand Acts 7. 58. and 8. 3 4. As for Saul he made havock of Gr. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 he laid waste the Church entering into every house halling 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 by force and violence dragging them along the ground both men and women he committed them to Prison And the very truth is this is the most considerable instance if not the only one of Sauls Persecuting the Church of God 'T is true Acts 9. 1. 't is said And Saul breathing out threatnings and slaughters against the Disciples of the Lord but that only imports the wrath and fury that was in his spirit against them and resolution to persecute imprison waste and destroy them the usual issue of blind zeal for the Tradition of their Fathers in other places as he had already done at Jerusalem For which end he procures Letters to Damascus to bring men and women disciples bound to Jerusalem that he should find of this Heresie there But Oh the wonder of Love Before he arrive thither Christ way-layes him speakes from Heaven to him converts him and sets him upon preaching up that very way and truth he was thus violently persecuting and setting himself against So that not the visible Church indifinitely taken but some particular Churches of Jesus Christ and in especial and by way of eminency that famous Church at Jerusalem is intended 1 Cor. 15. 9. That which Mr. T. mentions in the 5 th place That the word Church is taken for the Church Topical i. e. A particular Church of Christ or a company of Believers dwelling in this or that place giving no themselves to the Lord and one another according to his will walking to gether in the fellowship of the Gospel and meeting 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in the same place for the worshiping God in the same numerical Ordinances according to the prescription will and institution of Christ Acts 8. 1. 1 Cor. 1. 1. Ephes 1. 1. and many other places Of which Chap. 4. of S. T. we assent to as true But that we should ever subscribe 6thly To that dictate of the Animadverter That Church in Scripture is taken for a Church of a Country or Nation and then it is put in the Plural Number as the Churches of Asia Galatia Judaea being so dissonant to truth and contrary to the express language of the Spirit of the Lord he could never imagine For the Churches of Asia Christ tells us expresly they were Seven
is not from Heaven but the issue of humane pâ—udence c. So that to them or their Rulers and Officers as such we owe no tribute or respect by vertue of any Institution of Christ which they are as he acknowledgeth and that truly destitute of ' Tweâ—e easie to fill many pages with citations of Authors speaking to this matter Whereas originally there was a small uncertain number of Presbyters at Roms they were brought to a certain number and order by Cletuâ— and Evaristus Popes of Rome First Cletus reduced the Presbytery of Rome to the number of twenty five Afterwards Evaristus about the year of Christ 100 appointed and prescribed a several Parish to every one of these Presbyters which Parishes were afterwards â—nlarged and had their bounds and limits more perfectly and more exactly prescribed to them by Pope Dyonisius as was said about the year of Christ 260 After which time Marcâ—llus about the year of Christ 305 limited the number of those titles which anciently were first given to the Presbyters by Evaristus and did by Decree constitute That there should be in Rome 25 as it were so many Diocesses for the more convenient baptizing of such Gentiles as were daily converted to Christian Religion Onuphrius Panvinius de praecipuis urbis Romae Basiliciâ— And Selden in his History of Tythes chap. 6. Sect. 3. writes thus For Parish Churches it is plain that as Metropolitan See's Patriaâ—chats Exarchates in the Eastern Church Bishopricks these greater dignities were most usually at first ordained and limited according to the distinction of Seats of Government and inferiour Cities that had been assigned to the Substitutes or Vicarii of the Praefect Pratorio or Vice-Roys of the East and Western-Empire So were Parishes appointed and divided to several Ministers within the Ecclesiastical rule of these dignities according to the conveniences of Country-Towns and Villages one or more or less of such as being but small Territories might not by the Canons be Bishopricks to a Parish The word Parish at first denoting a whole Bishoprick which is but as a great Parish and signifies no other â—han Diocesâ— but afterwards being confined to what our common language restrains it The Curats of these Parishes were such as the Bishops appointed under him to have cure of souls in them and were called Presbyterii Parochiani i. e. Parish-Presbyters But thus far of this matter As touching what Mr. T. adds that there is no precept about the defining how many should go to a Church or be accounted to belong to one Church c. We answer 1. That 't is very impertinently produced by him tending not at all to the matter in hand such a visible non-sequitur as he will never be able to make good How many should go to a Church we have no precept of Christ directing and enjoyning us Ergo no Institution of a Church by preception or command But 2dly That we are in this matter wholly destitute of Law or Rule is a mistake of this Animadverter First Mat. 18. 20. manifests that the Church cannot well consist of fewer than seven For 1. there is the Brother offending 2dly Two or three reproving this offending Brother And 3dly the Church before whom the matter is to be brought for final determination which cannot be supposed to be fewer if so few as the persons bringing it before them Secondly That they be no more than can conveniently meet together in one place and so that they may hear and be edified which is the great end of church-Church-communion the Scripture plainly intimates 1 Cor. 14. 23. If therefore the whole Church be come together in one place ver 26. let all things be done unto edifying But if all cannot hear they cannot be edified So wide off the mark of Truth is his Assertion that neither Christ nor his Apostles have given us any Rule or Law of bounding or modelling Churches which though how many members may be added to a Church be not expresly prescribed he hath done That Text Mat. 18. 17. seems much to perplex this Animadverter what is meant by Church there he cannot tell 'T is uncertain he saith whether the Christian Civil Judicatory or Ecclesiastical Consistory or Congregational Assembly of Believers or some select Arbitrators be meant Of the three first of these we have spoken already and manifested that not the Jewish Synedrium but the Christian Church not the Christian Civil Judicatory or Ecclesiastical Consistory is intended by the Church here That select Arbitrators should be meant is the first-born of improbabilities 1. They are no where called a Church in the Scripture 2. The Church in the Text are such a company to whom the party or parties aggrieved may presently have their recourse which to select Arbitrators they cannot have they must first be chosen of which notwithstanding there is not the least tittle in the Text. 3. Here is no mention of the consent of the party offending in the election of the Arbitrators which of right ought in such cases to be 4. From the Church here there seems to lye no appeal 5. The Sentence pronounced by the Church is a Sentence confirmed in Heaven ver 18. which Mr. T. upon second thoughts will not say can be affirmed of the Sentence of his select Arbitrators Yea 6ly if the party offending will not hear the Church he is to be accounted as an Heathen i. e. they are to hold no religious communion with him and Publican i. â— withholding from them familiar civil communion but I much question whether it be my duty to carry it so to a Brother that shall refuse to submit to the sentence of Mr. Tombs his select Arbitrators especially if he had no hand in their election never referr'd his affairs to their arbitrement testifies his willingness to hearken to the Church and stand to their determination therein But 't is time we attend the reasons this Animadverter gives of his opinion The first whereof is The offence is private that might be remitted by the party offended Answ 1. If by private he mean such an offence as was only known to them two it 's granted The words are a direction from Christ to Brethren how to carry it each to other in case of secret and private scandals and offences for when the fact is open publick and notorious there needs not this private admonition another way of procedure is directed to and established 1 Tim. 5. 20. Those that sin viz. cum scandalo Ecclesia saith Piscator rebuke before all that others also may fear And the Church of Corinth without any such previous process was bound the fact being publick and notorious to excommunicate and purge out from amongst them that wicked person 1 Cor. 5. 2 4 5 7. but it follows not that because the offence in his sense is privâ—te that therefore by Church must be meant not a particular instituted Church but select Arbitrators But 't is more than probable by private he means such a particular
be imagined upon that supposition a measure of them by it were impossible to be taken 5. The measured Court saith the learned Mede setteth forth the primitive state of the Christian Church conformable to the Rule of Gods Word The measuring is an allusion to Ezek. 43. 7 to 10. or to building viz. That what the drawing of the Platform is to Builders the same is Measuring to God in the language of the Prophets i. e. the state of the Church figured thereby is God's workmanship 6. The measuring is as was said a clear allusion to Ezek. 43. 10. but that measuring was in order to the shewing the form of the House Let them measure the pattern ver 11. Shew them the form of the House and the fashion thereof therefore the measuring here must be for the same end too Mr. Parker further argues If God when the Church of the Jews is call'd to the Faith designs the quantity longitude latitude thereof it cannot be imagined that he hath left the dimension of the Gentile Churches to humane pleasure But when the Church of the Jews is called to the Faith he designs the quantity c. thereof Therefore Mr. T. replies 1. That the Holy City is the visible Church of the Jews c. Or that the measuring it was to design the quantity of particular Churches is not probable Answ But this is more than probable that the Holy City be it what it will is exactly formed and figured by the Lord as the measuting the City the Gates the Walls thereof doth abundantly evince If you take it for the converted Jews as some learned men do or the Gentile Churches after the fall and ruine of Antichrist to which it may be Mr. T. rather enclines 't is not probable that God should then take such exact care about the forming and figuring of the Church-societies of these and in the mean while leave his present Churches to the good pleasure of the children of men and those none of the best neither 2dly He tells us Inasmuch as the Apostle Rom. 11. 25. asserts that all Israel shall be saved he might better argue for a National Church of Christ's Institution from the visible Church-state of the Jews at their future calling than for a Congregational Church Answ 1. But then he must argue that some Church-form is of divine institution which would overturn his present structure 2. He must first prove that the Jews Church-state upon their conversion will be National which the Apostle's words all Israel shall be saved do not evince for so they may be though formed up into particular societies as some learned men think they shall 3. God's designing more diligently the quantity c. of the Jewish Church at their calling hereafter and leaving the dimension of ours to humane choice may be done Mr. T. tells us out of more special love to them Answ 1. But pag. 39. he tells us That God's leaving things appertaining to the New-Testament-Churches to be set down by man more than he did to the Jewish-Church is an Argument of greater love and care to the New-Testament-Churches than to them This needs a Reconciler 2. However he neither manifests that God bears greater love to the Jews than Gentiles which to speak properly he cannot do nor that if he did so he should bear so little love to the New-Testament-Churches as to leave them wholly to the forming of the sons of men What he adds fourthly in answer to what is further argued by Mr. Parker that the Church is compared to a City but no City is so negligently administred by man that no regard is had to the bounds and lin its thereof is greatly impertinent for though it may consist with the prâ—dence and care of good Princes to leave many things to the choice of some in the City incorporated as the ordering their Meetings c. â—s shall be found most convenient for them yet to take no more care thereabout than to suffer the City to grow up into the compass of a Shire a Nation would scarce be accounted consistant with that prudence and wisdom which should be in them And thus far of Mr. T. his reply to the famous Parkers Arguments for the Divine Institution of Churches For a close of this Section we shall briefly propose twelve Arguments for the further clearing of the truth That the Form of Churches is of Divine Institution which our Animadverter may answer at his leizure Argum. 1. If the Form of the Church be not of Christ's appointment 't is not so either because it was not needful or because Christ was not careful faithful or sufficient to institute or ordain it But neither of these is true To assert the latter were blasphemous c. That 't is needful is evident 1. There are some duties which cannot well be performed but upon supposition hereof as Mat. 18. 15. 2dly The care of the Apostles to bring such as they converted into Church-order 3dly Their diligent instructing them in their duty as members of particular Bodies and Congregations 4thly Christ's owning them who walked together in such Societies affording them his Presence promising it to them and that in opposition unto Babylonish Assemblies of the formings of man abundantly evince the needfulness thereof Besides 5thly If it be not needful they are bloodily cruel who persecute men to the loss of Estates Liberties Lives and give them up to the Devil by the sentence of Excommunication For no other reason but for refusing communion with their National Church or denying its form and frame to be of the institution of Christ. Arg. 2. If the Form of the Church be not of Christ's appointment then there must be more Lords over the Church besides Christ for the forming or figuring of Churches pro libito is an act of Lordly Authority But there cannot be more Lords over the Church besides Christ Isa 33. 22. 1 Cor. 8. 5. Jam. 4. 12. Therefore Arg. 3. If the Form of Churches be not of Christ's appointment Then is it in the power of man without any precept or authority from Christ to add to or take away from the Body of Christ for so are particular Churches as we have proved But this is contrary to 1 Cor. 12. 18 27. with Rom. 12. 4 8. Therefore Arg. 4. That which the Apostles practised in pursuance of the Commission they received from Christ is undoubtedly an Order and Institution of his But the gathering of Disciples into particular Congregations the Apostles practised in pursuance of the Commission they received from Christ Mat. 28. 19 20. with Acts 2. 41 â—2 43. Therefore Arg. 5. If the Form of Churches be not of Divine Institution Then the Church of Christ is either not his Palace Kingdom or Christ hath not that care over his Palace and Kingdom as the Princes of the world have over theirs But both these are false and highly injurious to Christ Therefore Arg. 6. That Church to which Christ hath enjoyned his
whence Separation from her is warrantable by the Animadverters concession and grant 3dly That Separation from one part of Worship in a Church should be somewhat justifiable and not from the whole at some time and not alway things still remaining as they were is a mystery that I profess I understand not I presume he suggests it with reference to the Prayers and Sacraments of the Church a separation from which he supposeth is more justifiable than from their Preaching But seriously I would thank Mr. T. if he would take the pains to prove 1. That 't is lawful for me to joyn with that Church in any part of Worship with whom I am not obliged cannot in conscience pray 2dly That where the Sacraments are not duly administred there is a true Church The due administration of Sacraments having been hither to assertâ—d as one certain note of a true Church If they are duly administred in the Church of England why doth Mr. T. refuse to joyn in their Administration If they are not duly administred the Church of England is a false Church and not to be joyned with in any part of Worship What follows in this Section that the Separation pleaded-for is for the most part the fruit of pride or bitter zeal and tends to strife and confusion and every evil work must be imputed to the overflowing of Mr. T. his gall and passion 'T is at the least a fruit of the flesh which he will do well to wait upon God to humble him for and mortifie in him I shall only say The Lord forgive thee The Scripture instanc'd Jam. 3. 16. is more applicable to the Church of England than to those of the Congregational way as every considerate Reader will acknowledge To the tenth Query in S. T. viz. Whether supposing a Church apostatised as aforesaid never to be according to Truth a visible instituted Church of Christ and the People of God living in the Nation never by their free consent members thereof as it is on the pretended Churches part most unheard-of cruelty to compel them so it be not on the part of the free-born Children of God most stupendous folly and disvaluation of the Institutions of Christ and ingratitude to God for the light and liberty from the yokes of men received imaginable to joyn affinity with it in Worship or attend upon its Ministry he pretends to answer in his 26th Sect. I say he pretends to do so for Mr. T. must suppose that Reader to be distempered in his brain that shall take what he saith to be indeed an Answer to the Query proposed 1. He grants compulsion of men may be cruelty Answ But Sir the question is not about every compulsion but a compulsion to conformity to and communion with a Church so called that never was of the Institution of Christ of which we never owned our selves members Is not such a compulsion cruelty doubtless if there be any cruelty in the world this is so 2. He runs to his old shift of joyning with a Church that hath some humane inventions in Worship a Ministry that for the main preach the Gospel with some mixture of Errors not requiring persons to practise that which is in it self evil Answ 1. This hath been answered as it relates to the Church of England over and over 'T is an Argument our Animadverter hath little to say for the defence of his Church that is true when we hear the same story so oft which yet in a great measure is notoriously false as if he had been brought up at the feet of old Battus he speaks exactly like him subillis Montibus inquit erant erant sub montibus illis Montibus inquit erant erant sub montibus illis the same over and over for fear of failing But 2dly One Key will never fit every Lock nor one Answer servâ— to every Question Sir the Query is not what we may do with respect to a Church collapsed of which we before spake but whether it be not great folly for the People of God who by their own voluntary consent were never members of such a Church to joyn affinity with it in Worship and attend upon its Ministry which none of the Texts of Scripture produced by Mr. T. evince Acts 21. 18 c. 16 3. 1 Cor. 9. 19 20 21. give us an account of the readiness of Paul to condescend to weak Believers in what he lawfully might Ergo it is our duty for peace-sake to joyn with a Church which is not of the Institution of Christ Which consequence when Mr. T. makes good he will manifest himself to be a man of rare abilities indeed Mat. 17. 27. is so remote to his purpose that I wonder to what purpose he produceth it Christ works a Miracle to pay Tribute exacted of the Emperours Collectors Ergo we must not separate from a false Church but attend upon its Ministry joyn in affinity with it How he will in his next cover these palpable mistakes I know not nor can I advise him to a better Apology than that Semel insanivimus omnes CHAP. II. Sect. 1. Of Sanctifying the Name of God in our drawing nigh to him Of particularities of Worship and their Imposition Of an implicite Faith in matters of Worship The first Argument in the S. T. against hearing the present Ministers vindicated Of a Warrant by permission and part accidental of Instituted Worship Of Shaphan's reading the Law 2 Chr. 34. 18. Joh. 8. 47. explained The unlawfulness of practising any thing in Instituted Worship for which we have no warrant in the Scripture Whether Christ hath only revealed the essentials of Worship and left accidental Parts thereof to be determined by the prudence of Rulers The rise of Ceremonies Col. 2. 8 9 10. explained Of the Scriptures perfection The Testimonies of the Ancients Josh 22. 34. explained THe Preface of the S. T. being vindicated from the exceptions of Mr. T. wherein his skirmishings have been manifested to be velitary and weak indeed We attend his advance and on-set upon the Triarii or main Battel as he phraseth it against which let him do his worst after all his endeavours to rout it he will find it keeping the field against him Statque ut dura silex aut ut Marpessia cautes The first thing he takes notice of is a saying of mine in the beginning of Chap. 1. of the S. T. That God having said he will be sanctified in all that draw nigh to him It 's therefore the necessary duty of Saints in all their approaches to God to see to his Institution both in respect of the matter and manner of Worship To which he subjoyns This is yielded with respect to determined particularities but as to such as are undetermined by the Lord there may be too anxious care tending to be get scruples perplexities divisions which experience hath proved to cause fluctuating in mens minds inconstancy in their practice And it s therefore adviseable that
they have not This belongs to Patrons Lord-Bishops c. 2. The power of admission of Members and ejection of the Scandalous by excommunication they have not The first a man hath by buying or renting a piece of Land in the Parish and dwelling there the other is managed in the Bishops Courts by a sorry thing call'd a Chancellor it may be as deboist as the worst that is brought before him Now that with respect to these things Christ hath entrusted his Church with power we evince chap. 2 4. of S. T. 4ly That company of men that are not capable of performing those duties and cannot answer that end that Christ requires of his Churches for which he instituted them are not a true Church of Christ But the Parish-Assemblies of England are not capable of performing those duties Therefore 'T is the Minor needs proof The duties Christ requires to be performed by them the end he aimed at in instituting his Churches was 1. To set forth his honour and praise Eph. 3. 21. 1 Pet. 2. 9. 2. To promote the true Light and Knowledge of God Ephes 1. 8. 1 John 1. 6 7. 3. The mutual edification of one another in the things of God 1 Thess 5. 11. Eph. 4. 29. 1 Cor. 14. 26. Jude 20. I appeal to any unbyassed man in the world whether he thinks in his conscience that the Parish-Assemblies of England can perform these duties answer this end The contrary is most evident and too notoriously known to be true than to admit of a denial But I shall not enlarge on what is already so judiciously asserted and argued by others which Mr. T. is not able to evert The Ordination of Lord-Bishops of which he next speaks is forreign from Scripture if the Office it selâ— be This we prove chap. 3. of S. T. and Mr. T. once swore to extiâ—pate it as such and I am sorry to find him now pleading for it Whether I have abused John 10. 1 9. neither Mr. T. nor I must now be judge the judicious Reader will judge for us both and I doubt not according to truth Sect. 4. The Ministers of Engl. not to be heard as gifted-Brothren Judas not particularly declared by Christ Joh. 6. 70. to be a Devil The Animadverter abuseth the Author of the S. T. in affirming he â—ies up Saintship to particular Churches whom the Scripture makes Brethren Mr. T. reduceth the Brotherhood to a smaller scantling than we We cannot perform the duties of Brethren to the Ministers of Engl. and why If we own the best of them for Brethren we must own the worst Of Judas his receiving the Sacrament The mixt multitude making acclamation to Christ of joyning with other in Worship We separate no more from the Church of England than they do from us 1 Cor. 5. 1â— 'T is not lawful to break Bread with the visibly prophane proved Iâ— what sense the Bishops are styled Reverend Fathers They are not to be owned as such The Ministers of Engl. disorderly walkers proved They engage against Scripture-Reformation 2 Thes 3. 6. explained Of Obedience to Ministers Rom. 13. 1. Heb. 13. 7. opened We ought not to hear those from whom 't is our duty to withdraw Mr. T. his Aâ—guments to the contrary answered IN Sect. 4. our Animadverter replies to the proofs produced in S. T. for the confirmation of the second part of our Minor Proposition viz. That 't is not lawful to hear them as gifted-Brethren because 1. The most of them are not gifted nor 2. Brethren being Canonical Drunkards Swearers c. To this he saith 1. That any of them are such is to be bewayled in a Christian way the persons guilty are to be rebuked Lev. 19. 17. not to be thus charged in print in a Book vented in the dark tending to make them odious Answ 1. When he shall be pleased to manifest the Rule of Christ I have trangressed in thus charging them I shall as publickly acknowledge my error Those that sin rebuke before all 1 Tim. 5. 20. is some part of what I have to plead for my so doing 2. If the Book were vented in the dark I may thank them for it who would have such things stifled that their works may not be made manifest 3. I make them not odious they have made themselves so throughout the Nation 4. Mr. T. his hoping this is not true proves nothing the contrary is manifest to thousands He adds 2dly Were all this and more true yet they might be heard preach the Gospel as Brethren gifted Answ But knows he what he saith We affirm that they are not gifted nor Brethren that this should be true and more too and yet they might be heard as gifted Brethren is such a Paradox to me that comes but a little short if a little of down-right nonsense i. e. there are some may be heard as Brethren gifted that are neither gifted nor Brethren That Judas was declared by Christ to be a Devil John 6. 70. as he suggests is false He saith one of them was so but names him not 'T is true John tells us ver 71. that he spake of Judas but this neither he nor any of the rest knew till afterwards We add in S. T. 3dly The best of them cannot by Saints in respect of gospel-Gospel-communion be accounted Brethren For 1. There was never any giving up our selves each to other whence such a Brotherhood doth result To this Mr. T. answers 1. By Saints he means such as are members of a particular instituted Congregational Church distinct from the Presbyterian for such only are accounted Saints by him as give up themselves each to other c. Answ False and untrue I am amazed to see with what conscience this matter is managed by him no regard seems to be had to truth and honesty so he can cast dirt upon his Antagonist 2. 'T is contrary to my avowed principle and practice 3. I do verily believe that there are many Saints in England that are neither for the Presbyterian Parochial or Congregational way yea with Dr. Ames Trip. p. 523. afterwards cited by him I doubt not to say according to my conscience that amongst those which live under the tyranny of the Popâ—s and do not utterly separate from him through ignorance there be many Christians belonging to the true Catholick Church and so to be accounted our godly Brethren viz. upon the account of their Catholicism and so I believe there are in the Church of England somâ— amongst the Ministers thereof of whom I say still I deny not but they may be good men But yet we say 4. That upon the account of gospel-Gospel-Communion they cannot be accounted by us as Brethren because they are as Mr. T. saith rightly no members of a Christian Church i. e. any particular instituted Church of Christ That which is added by him makes much against him 1. 'T is false That the Scriptures make all who hold the same Faith and are Baptized into Christ
to be Brethren and Members of all the Churches in the world Gal. 3. 26 1 Cor. 10. 16. and 12. 12 Eph. 4. 4. They make them to be Brethren only of those particular Churches to whom those Epistles are directed as the serious reading them will evince 2. Were what he saith true He would reduce the brotherhood to a narroer compass than we either do or dare For if his notion be true only those that are baptized into Christ can be so accounted but Mr. T. thinks that only such as are baptized at years of discretion are thus baptized into Christ Therefore only such are Brethren and then I am sure the Ministers of England are not to be so accounted Thus frequently doth he wound to the heart the cause he undertakes the management of with his own sword We add in S. T. Secondly We cannot as things stand perform the duties of Brethren to them according to Mat. 18. nor will they or can they in the state in which they stand to us What Mr. T. hath answered to Maâ— 18. in his answer to the Preface Sect. 15. we have refuted in the Vindication thereof Sect. and have evinced a Congregational Church is there meant 'T is no Argument of hatred as Mr. T. according to his wonted candor suggests that we cannot perform the duties of Brethren to them 1. They are a Church of such a Latitude that 't is almost impossible we should do so 2. We are in no Church-state together 3. Should we reprove them we could do no more therefore we cannot perform the duties of Brethren required by that Scripture which indoctrinates us in case of non-repentance to bring it before the Church we know no Churth to whom we may complain The Parochial Assemblies have no power to deal with them The Bishops Court is no Church of Christ yet thither must we appeal if any where and we have little encouragement to do so it consisting of persons altogether â—â— vicious and deboyst as those we are to complain of We say further in S. T. Thirdly If we acknowledge the best of them for Brethren we must acknowledge the worst of them For 1. They are all members of the the same Church 2. They profess themselves to be one Brotherhood To which Mr. T. pretends a Reply in a Rhapsodie of words little or not at all to purpose He tells us 1st Of a twofold Communion Private or Publick and that the worst of the present Ministers are to be accounted as Brethren in respect of private Gospel-Communion i. e. we are to restore them as Brethren open our hearts to them according to Gal. 6. 1. Mal. 3. 16. Jam. 5. 16. I industriously omit his Scoffe of Pharisaically minded reputed Saints which he must shortly account for to him who will reckon with men for their hard and reproachful words to his Children And to what may be thought of any moment in this his Answer we Reply Answ 1. His distinction of Private and Publick Gospel-Communion is impertinent as is his discourse of the lawfulness of holding private Gospel-Communion with them 'T is of Communion with them in preaching c. that we are treating which he accounts Publick Communion 2. Not one of the Scriptures produced but condemn what he would have them justifie The Brethren Paul speaks of Gal. 6. 1. were Members of a particular instituted Church Gal. 1. 2. Such as had received the Spirit Chap. 3. 2. The Sons of God by Faith Vers 26. Baptized into Christ putting him on Vers 27. Sons into whose hearts God had sent forth the Spirit of his Son crying Abba Father Chap. 4. 6. Heirs of God through Christ Vers 7. Such as knew God were known of him Vers 9 c. Mal. 3. 16. Speakes expresly concern-such as feared the Lord in opposition to the proud and them that work wickedness such as those mentioned Jam. 5. 16. which Mr. T. knows in his conscience cannot be affirmed of the worst of the present Ministers Certainly the forementioned Characters fit not the drunkards swearers adulterers that are known to be of that Tribe Nor 3. Am I able to make any tollerable sence of what follows that concerning this it follows not if we acknowledge the best of them as Brethren we must also acknowledge the worst of them he having asserted and introduced the Scriptures but now requoted to prove it that concerning this The worst of the present Ministers are to be accounted as Brethren 2dly As touching publick Gospel-Communion he tells us It consists in hearing them praying with them receiving the Lords Supper c. Answ Very well How proves he that with respect hereunto we mâ—y own them as Brethren Why 1. Judas might be heard as an Apostle was perhaps a Communicant at the Lords Supper It 's therefore lawful to hear and joyâ— in the Lords Supper with the worst of the present Ministers Answ 1. Of the case of Judas that is repeated usque ad naâ—sâ—am we shall have occasion to speak hereafter At present we shall only say 2. He was an Apostle sent forth by Jesus Christ which the present Ministers of England are not 3. He was a visible Saint carried it so well that but immediately before his betraying his Lord the Disciples seemed rather to suspect themselves than him which cannot be affirmed of visible Drunkards 4. That he received the Communion is uncertain If he did they were in a Church-state he was a visible Saint no actual crime or evil could be laid to his charge so that this instance makes not aâ— all for Communion with the worst or best of the Ministers of England who are not in a Gospel Church state c. He further tells 3dly A mixt multitude made acclamation to Christ yet our Lord justified their joyning together in their praying and praising God Mat. 21. 16. Luke 19. 39. Answ 1. This was but one act 2. Out of a Church-state 3. From an extraordinary impulse of Spirit 4. They joyned with the Disciples were not the mouth of the Disciples to God and therefore reacheth not at all our present Casâ— 5. Mr. T. Can never prove this Consequence valid The Disciples sing Hosanna to Christ and others a mixt multitude by an extraordinary impulse of Spirit sing so to Ergo It 's our duty to joyn with the present Ministers as Brethren in praying preaching receiving the Sacrament c. which yet he must make good or confess he hath hitherto proved nothing He adds 4thly 'T is no sin to joyn in the true Worship of God wâ—th any if we have no command to withdraw from that Service because of their presence nor power to exclude them and yet bound to the duties then performed Believers might prophesie and hear it though unbelievers came in 1 Cor. 14. 24. Answ 1. This Animadverter takes for granted what we deny First That the true Worship of God is performed in the Parish Assemblies All praying and preaching is not the true Worship of God The offering
be called of sent by him So was Aaron Acts 14. 23. 6. 3 5. manifest that the Way of the Lord's mission is not by Lord-Bishops but by his Churches and People What he tells us he hath said in answer to any of these Scriptures we have replyed to Chap. 2. We add in S. T. 3ly That Prelates their Chancellors and Officers have power from Christ to cast out of the Church of God is owned by them contrary to Mat. 18. 16 17. 1 Cor. 5. 4. To which our Animadverter subjoyns He finds no such Law Answ It may be he is willingly ignorant hereof This he cannot but know that in the Name of Christ the Officers mentioneâ— do excommunicate out of the Church so call'd of Christ Do they do this without Law Is it not one of their Church-constitutions that they may do so Do not the present Ministers own them herein Whilst they cite present persecute their Neighbours for not coming to Divine Service as they call it it may be for refusing to pay them a four-penny-due in the Ecclesiastical Courts even to an Excommunication whose Act therein they afterwards publickly denounce and declare once and again in obedience to them What more evident The weakness of his answer to Mat. 18. 1 Cor. 5. we have already manifested We say further in S. T. That they own 4ly that the Office of the Suffragans Deans Canons are lawful and necessary to be had in the Church contrary to 1 Cor. 12. 18 28. Rom. 12. 7. Ephes 4. 11. The Officers instituted by Christ are sufficient for the edification and perfecting of the Saints till they all come unto a perfect man v. 12 13. In what sense the forementioned being not one of them of the Institution of Christ may be owned as lawful and necessary without an high contempt of the Wisdom and Sovereignty of Christ I am not able to conceive this is the sum Mr. T. replies 1. He knows not where this imagined Ordinance is Answ That there are such Officers and Offices in the Church of England established by the Laws thereof he cannot be ignorant To say They are Antichristian or repugnant to the Word of God is censured by the Canons thereof Can. 7. That the Ministers own submit to some of them is known The vanity and impertinency of Mr. T. his pleading for them not to mention his perjury therein is discovered in our present Vindication of Chap. 3. from his exceptions against what is by us therein argued We say they own 5thly That the Office of Deacons in the Church is to be imployed in publick Praying administration of Baptism and Preaching if licensed by the Bishop thereunto contrary to Act. 6. 2. Ephes 4. 11. Mr. T. replies 'T is not contrary to Christ's Revelation that they should be imployed in those works Ans 1. But when Christ hath instituted the office of Deacons for this end to attend Tables or look after the provision and necessities of the Saints That any persons may own an Office of Deacons in the Church to be imploy'd by virtue of Office-power in any other work than that for which they are intrusted by Christ and called unto Office without an advance against that Institution of Christ is absurd to imagine 2. That the present Ministers own such an Office he doth not deny 3. What he speaks of Stephen and Philip he had said before and to it we have replied already and need noâ— add more A sixth Law or Ordinance that we say they own is this That the Ordinance of Breaking Bread or the Sacrament of the Lords Supper may be administred to one alone as to a sick man ready to die Which is diametrically opposite to the Nature and Institution of that Ordinance 1 Cor. 10. 16. and 11. 33. Mat. 26. 26. Acts 2. 42. and 20. 7. To which Mr. T. This is not easily proved from the Scripâ—ures instanced in Answ Whether it be or not is left to the judgment of the judicious Reader to determine I am weary in pursuâ—â—g him in his impertinencies He grants a Communion is proved in that Sacrament 1 Cor. 10. 16. but vers 17. and 1 Cor. 12. 13. prove the Communion to be rather with all Christians Of which yet there is not one word in either of the places In vers 17. He speaks of the Church of Corinth that was one bread one body The other Scripture speaks nothing of Saints Communion one with another in this Ordinance 1 Cor. 11. 33. Acts 20. 7. he confesseth prove That it should be administred when all the Communicants Church or Brethren he should say are come together Whether its administration to one alone be not diametrically opposite hereunto as also to the very first Institution of this Ordinance Mat. 26. 26. let the Judicious judge Though it be said Act. 2. 46. that they brake bread from house to house it doth not follow there was none beside the Minister and the sick man the words import the contrary We manifest further in S. T. That they own 7thly a prescript form of Words in Prayer that a ceremonious pompous Worship devised â—y man and abused to Idolatry is according to the will of God and may lawfully be used under the New Testament Dispensation contrary to Mat. 15. 9. and 28. 20. John 4. 23. Deut. 12. 32. Jer. 51. 26. Rom. 8. 26. 1 Cor. 14. 15. By this prescript form of Words this ceremonious pompous Worship the Common-Prayer-Book Collegiat-Worship and Service is intended This I say is devised by man the owning whereof is contrary to Mat. 15. 9. and 28. 20. Deut. 12. 22. abused to Idolatry The owning hereof is opposite to Jer. 51. 26. It is Ceremonious and Pompous the abetting whereof is adverse to Joh. 4. 23. as is the owning of a prescript Form of Words to Rom. 8. 26. 1 Cor. 14. 15. To which our Animadverter replies 1. He should have told us what part of the Common-Prayer-Book was abused to Idolatry Answ The whole of it is so being Worship not appointed by the Lord and used in that Church that is the most Idolatrous Church in the world What he hath said in this Chap. Sect. 3. or in Chap. 3. Sect. 4. We have already answered His great out-cry of our abuse of Jer. 51. 26. produced to prove it unlawful to use any thing in the Worship of God abused to Idolatry will soon be evinced to be an empty sound Vox praeterea nihil 1. We have for our Companions in this Exposition persoâ—s not contemptible for wisdom and holiness who make conscience of applying Scriptures and abusing the Reader 2. Of all men Mr. T. iâ— the most incompetent for the management of this charge who most egregiously perverts Scriptures in this Treatise contrary to former Interpretations given by himself to them and to the plain intendment of the Spirit therein As we have in part manifested and may do further in our Appendix 3. He egregiously abuseth the Reader in this very passage whilst
of the Gospel Hos 4. 15. is a Precept to Judah not to have communion with Idolatrous Israel in matter of Worship thence separation from such as worship God in a false way is evidently demonstrated to be our duty That 't is our duty as the Spirit tells us 't is Prov. 14. 7. to flie from the presence and sight of foolish men and yet have communion with them in Worship is a most absurd Dictate But he will prove the Position false 1. It supposeth Christ to have instituted such a separation as he hath told us shall not be to the end of the World Mat. 13. 30 39. 40. Answ This is the Animadverters mistake the separation Christ tells us shall not be till the end of the World is a separation in respect of Civil Societies and Cohabitations in the World which we plead not for And this he plainly tells us v. 38. The Field is the World wherein both the godly and the wicked do and may grow together undisturbed by us notwithstanding the separation pleaded for And that this is the whole of Christs intendment is evident 1. The Tares when discovered are not to be pull'd up out of the field v. 15. But when persons are discovered to be Tares wicked ones they must be cast out of the Church 1 Cor. 5. 2. Rev. 2. 14 15 16 20. 2. The plucking up of the Tares is forbidden lest thereby some detriment should happen to the Wheat v. 29. but the excommunicating separating from scandalous Offenders is not to the prejudice 't is to the good and advantage of those that are truly Righteous as the Apostle intimates 2 Cor. 5. 6 7 8. Ver. 39. is the Key of the Parable of the Draw-Net Which 1. fairly intimates to us that the same line of Interpretation is to be stretched over it as over the Parable of the Tares But 2. grant it to be meant of a Gospel-Church-State it opposeth not the Separation pleaded for there 's no doubt there may be foolish Virgins as well as wise Judasses as well as Peters in the best constituted Churches and are like to be to the end of the World but though they are known to God to be Devils they are not upon their admission into the Churches for other than real Saints and when they are found to be otherwise they are to be cut off from them as useless Members The separation pleaded for is not a separation from such refined Hypocrites as can act the part of Saints so well as that none but God is able to discern them from such but from those who have the visible Lineaments of men of the World and Children of Disobedience upon them which is not in the least opposite to either of these Parables The Fish in the Draw-Net were supposed to be good whilst in the Draw-Net till brought to Land and taken out from thence The account is given of the Churches of Asia Corinth manifests that they were constituted of visible Saints Rev. 2. 1 2 3 9 13 19. 1 Cor. 1. 2. They are blamed for suffering those that had discovered the rottenness of their hearts by works of unrighteousness though when admitted they seemed to be Saints to continue in their Communion Rev. 2. 14. 20. What he adds That the Separation pleaded for was ever judged Schismatical and proved unhappy in the conclusion Is 1. an Arrow drawn out of the Popish Quiver What the Papists usually object against the Separation of the Protestants from the Church of Rome as indeed many of his Arguments and Answers in this Treatise are which I had thought to have manifested at the close by the induction of particular instances but that this Treatise so unexpectedly swells under our hands 2. All that is accounted Schismatical is not presently so because so accounted 3. Schism being a breach of some Union of the Institutioâ— of Christ he must prove our Separation to be a breach of some such Union before he proves it schismatical What unhappiness the Animadverter means that hath attended separation from the visibly wicked and prophane I know not all things are not unhappy that men account so That which is of God in the Premisses as we have proved Separation to be cannot have unhappiness in the conclusion He adds The separation pleaded for is dangerous sith it puts persons upon withdrawing their subjection from Ecclesiastical Civil Houshold-Rulers and Governors it would overthrow all States Bodies Politick and Houshold-Government Answ 1. If by Ecclesiastical Rulers and Governors he â—ean such as are of the Institution of Christ and to others we owe no subjection as such the whole and every part of what is affirmed by him in this matter is most scandalously falsly and wickedly spoken â— question whether not contrary to his own knowledge and Conscience if not he undertook to answer a matter before he understood it which iâ— not much to his honour 2. The separation pleaded for is no other than what was pleaded for by the Apostles of old and Primitive Believers So that if it overthrows Government theirs did also and indeed this was laid to their charge as 't is to ours how truly let the whole Nation judge of this we have already spoken A second institution of Christ instanced in in S. T. is this That Saints separate from the World should frequently meet together as a distinct Body therefrom for the edification and building up of each other in the way and will of God according to the gifts bestowed Mal. 3. 16. 1 Thes 5. 11. Heb. 3. 12 Jude 20. Heb. 10. 24 25. 1 Cor. 12. 9. Acts 12. 12. 18. 23. Ephes 5. 19. James 5. 16. 1 Thes 5. 14. To which Mr. T. Sect. 2. Saints separated from the World i. e. unbelievers should frequently meet for the ends aforesaid But 1. one party of Christians should not call another party of Christians the World who own the true Faith of God and worship him because they are not of the same way of Church-Government and Worship Answ Right but with Mr. T. his good leave Christians may call such as though they outwardly profess the Name of Christ drive a trade of sinning against God are strangers to the Work of Grace upon their Spirits who are 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in subjection to the wicked one the World they being really 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 unbelievers if any in the Woâ—â—d be so which is all we contend for And if this b granted which yet I see not how it can be denied farewel a National-Church the most of whose Members are of the Complexion intimated That which follows in this Section we are not at all concerned in The Scriptures produced sufficiently evince that what we affirm to be the Institution of Christ is indeed so nor is Mr. T. able to gain-say the truth thereof A third Institution of Christ mentioned in S. T. is That particular Congregations and Assemblies of Believers gathered into one Body for the Celebration of the Worship
the 5th Whether Officers instituted by Christ are not only Pastors Teachers Deacons and Helpers he replies I find not Helperâ— Officers instituted by Christ but others I find here mentioned 1 Cor. 12. 28. Eph. 4. 11. Answ 1. Of helpers you may read Rom. 16. 3 9. 2. There are indeed other Officers mentioned of Christ's Institution in the places cited by him but they being such as are confessedly gone off the Stage we purposely omitted them Those mention'd are the alone knownstanding Officers in the Churches of Christ directions touching whose qualifications Election Office Work are laid down in the Scriptures To the 6th Whether the Offices of Arch-Bishops Lord-Bishops Deans Subdeans Prebendaries Chancellors Priests Deacons as the first step to a Priesthood Arch-Deacons Subdeacons Commissaries Officials Proctors Registers Apparitors Parsons Vicars Curats Canons Petty-Canons Gospellers Epistolers Chanters Virgers Organ-players Queristers be Officers any where instituted by the Lord Jesus in the Scripture He Answers Some are some are not See the Answer to Chap. 3. Answ To our Reply thereunto we refer the Reader for satisfaction in this matter To the 7th Whether the Calling and admission into theâ—e last mentioned Offices their Administration and Maintenance now had and received in England be according to the Word of God he replies This is answered before in sundry places Answ The vanity of his Answers we have already discovered To the 8th Whether every true visible particular Church of Christ be not a select company of People called and separated from the world and the false worship thereof by the Spirit and Word of God and joyned together in the fellowship of the Gospel by their own free and voluntary consent giving up themselves to Christ and one another according to the will of God He answers The terms are so ambiguously used that in some sence it may be answered Affirmatively in some Negatively Answ We have already explained the terms and demonstrated the truth of the Question in the Affirmative in all the branches thereof To the 9th Whether a company of People living in a Parish though the most of them be visible Drunkards and Swearers or at least strangers to the work of Regeneration upon their souls coming by compulsion or otherwise to the hearing of publick Prayers or Preaching are in the Scripture account Saints and the Church of Christ according to the pattern given forth by him He answers If their Faith be right they are i. e. if I mistake not If they assent to the Doctrine of the Church of England if they own no other Doctrinals but what are right for as to true saving Faith the persons described are undoubtedly strangers to it 't is impossible but they should be so whilst they abide such Now I believe never man in the world gave such an account of Saints Saint Drunkard and St. Swearer and St. Whoremaster sounds but harsh in the ears of men of understanding they themselves will swear they are no Saints That external profession of Faith is sufficient to constitute a person a Church-Member Bellarmine indeed affirms it may be Mr. T. received his notion from him and is therein opposed by the learned Whitaker who cites that saying of August Collat. 3. cum Donat. The Church is one Body in which is both a Soul and Body the Soul is the internal gifts of the Holy Ghost i. e. the internal graces The Body is the external profession of Faith and Communion of Sacraments And Sutliffe one of their own saith better To the Church not only profession of Faith but also holiness is required If the persons characterized by us are not the Church of Christ the Bride the Lambs Wife as we have proved they are not they must be accounted Daughters of the old Whore and Babel spoken of in the Scripture To the 10th Whether in such a Church there is or can rationally be supposed to be a true Ministry of the Institution of Christ He replies It may But we have proved the contrary To the 11th Whether the Book of Common-Prayer or stinted Liturgies be of the prescription of Christ and not of mans devising and invention he saith The Worship or matter for the greatest part of the Common-Prayer-Book is of Christ though the method and Form of Words be of men Answ 1. Modestly spoken however The whole of the matter of the Common-Prayer-Book he seems to grant is not of God though the greatest part he thinks is 2. Sufficiently impertinent 't is the method and Form of words that is the Liturgie or stinted Service to these men are tied If these are not of Christ as he grants their Liturgie is not To the 12th Whether some part of the Worship used by a People be polluted the whole of the Worship be not to be look'd upon in a Scripture account as polluted and abominable according to 1 King 18. 21. 2 King 17. 33. Isa 66. 3. Hos 4. 15. Ezek 43. 8. Zeph. 1. 5. So that if their Prayers be nought and polluted their Preaching be not so to He answers No nor is any such thing said in these Texts Answ Let the Reader consult them and he will find that they condemn the whole of the Worship though they did somwhat that was for the matter of it right and of the appointment of the Lord as polluted and accursed because some part of it was so His talk of the Imperfections of Ministers in prayer is impertinent every imperfection in Prayer renders not the Prayer naught and polluted in that sence in which we affirm the prayers of the Church of England or their devised Liturgie to be so upon the account of its non-institution by the Lord and oblation to an Idol To the 13th Whether a Ministry set up in direct opposition to a Ministry of Christ which riseth upon its fall and falls by its rise can by such as so account of it be lawfully joyned unto He replies No but they are bound to leave this account if it be erroneous Answ 1. But they think it not to be erroneous And 2. Mr. T. was lately of their mind when he swore to extirpate the Hierarchy To the 14th Whether such as have forsworn a Covenant-Reformation according to the Word of God and swear to a Worship that is meerly of humane devising that have nothing of the essentials of a Ministry of Christ to be found upon them may be accounted of as his Ministers and be adhered to He replies No. Wherein he hath given away the Cause pleaded for by him The Ministers of England are known and we have evinced it in this Treatise to be persons of the Complexion intimated To the 15th VVhether such as shall do so be not guilty of casting contempt upon the Institutions of Christ and disobedience against his Roâ—al Edicts commanding them to separate from persons of the complexion intimated He saith They would be if they should do so wittingly and willingly Answ But if they do it ignorantly though their sin be not
the hearing the present Ministers to be are not to be subjected to Acts 4. 19 20. 5. 29. Dan. 3. 16 17. 6. 10. We remark the Testimony of August de Verâ— Dom. Ser. 6. in this matter who was fully of the same mind with us Sed timeo inquies He tells us plainly That such as fear to offend â—heir superiours should much more fear to offend God who is greater than all The Emperors and Monarchs of the World threaten us with a Prison if we disobey them The Lord threatens us with Hell upon our disobâ—dience to him To which Mr. T. answers not at all The 9th Objection in S. T. is The Ministers of England are true Gospel Ministers for they convert souls which the Apostle makes the Sâ—al of his Ministry or Apostleship Therefore its lawful to hear them To which we say That the conversion of Souls proves not â— lawful Ministry 1. Paul makes it not 1 Cor 9. 2. singly a sufficient demonstration of his Apostleship 2. Many have converted souls that were not Apostles as ordinary Ministers yea Brethren Women remarkable Providences yet who will say that these last are Apostles or Ministers of the Lord Jesus 3. Should it be granted that Conversion of souls is an Argument of a lawful Ministry Where are the Churches nay where are the particular persons converted by them In answer to which Mr. T. grants That Conversion of souls is no certain sign of a true Gospel Minister whereby he hath discharged this Argument as insufficient from further attendance upon this service In what follows there is nothing but what hath already been replied to in this Sect. that requires our stay The last Objection proposed and answered in S. T. is Our Ministers are removed and we know not where to go to hear would you havâ— us sit at home idle Answ 1. Though we are not against any Ordinance of Christ yet we are afraid that those that know not how to spend the Lords â—ay without hearing do too much Idolize that Ordinance and never knew what 't was to spend that day with him Mr. T. adjoyns That such persons conceive they cannot spend â—he Lords day without hearing is not out of any Idolizing that Ordinance of God but because it is one duty of sanctifying the Lords day not only to exercise themselves in Reading and Prayer at home for that is every days duty but also to frequent the publick Assemblies where God is worshipped Heb. 10. 25. Exod. 20. 8. Acts 20. 7. Rev. 1. 10. 1 Cor. 16. 1 2. Joh. 20. 26 29. Answ 1. If by Publick Assemblies he mean the Assemblies of Swearers Drunkards Adulterers Idolaters called Christians where God is worshipped in a way of mans devising by an Antichristian Formal Superstitious and it may be Drunken Priest in opposition to the Private Meetings and Assemblies of the Saints The frequenting such Assemblies is so far from being that wherein the sanctifying the Lords Day doth consist that it is a profanation thereof being rebellion against that solemn Institution of our Lord Jesus enjoyning persons to separate from such Assemblies The Scriptures produced by him totally evert his Figment the most of them preaching forth the duty and practice of the Saints in opposition to such Assemblies And Rev. 1. 10. John was alone on the Lords Day and yet I hope sanctified it according to the will of God 2. I cannot but wonder that People especially men of learning reading should talk so much of Publick Assemblies and Publick Ordinances when they cannot but know that ever since Christianity had a being in the world for the most part the Assemblies of Pagans and Antichristians with their Ordinances and Worship were publick and the Assemblies of the true Church and Worship of Christ retired and private Whence in Rev. 12. 6. when you have the Beast and Whore in their Ruffe and Gallantry the whole World wondering after them Rev. 13. 3. you have the poor Witnesses of Christ prophesying in sackcloth Rev. 11. and the Church flying into the Wilderness a state of solitariness and retirement Rev. 12. 6 14. Might not the Papists in the Marian dayes have pleaded thus against the Protestants Such Publick Assemblies as Mr. Cotton spake of viz. The Assemblies of Believers in a particular Church-State we say are not carelesly or willfully to be neglected or forsaken But what 's this to the Parochial Assemblies of England who are not such Mr. Crofton's Argument cited by him is easily answered 'T is this Communion with the Church-visible in Gods solemn Worship is an essential part of the sanctification of the Sabbath an indispensible duty But Communion with the English Church in the Worship by her celebrated is Communion with the Church-visible in Gods solemn Worship Therefore Answ 1. By the Church-visible he must understand a particular instituted Church for with the Universal-Church-Visible of which some talk as such I cannot have Communion in the celebration of Ordinances of the appointment of Christ by Goâ—'s solemn Worship Worship appointed instituted by him to be managed and performed according to his will for otherwise it is not his Worship Iâ— which sense we grant his Major Communion with the Church-visible i. e. a particular instituted Church of Christ in Gods solemn Worship i. e. Worship of his own appointment celebrated in his own way is an essential part of the sanctification of the Sabbath an indispensible duty with this limitation when and where there is any such Church with whom I may meet But then the Minor is most notoriously false and untrue because the Church of England is no such particular instituted Church as we have proved the Worship celebrated by her is not Worship of the appointment of God managed in his own way but of mans devising performed by Antichristian Officers as we have demonstrated We say further in S. T. 2dly You need not sit at home idle you may soon hear of some or other of the Assemblies of the Saints whither you may repair to wait upon the Lord with them Mr. T. is mistaken that such Assemblies as these are not in many places to be found Through the grace of the Lord 't is for the most part far otherwise than he intimates We add 3dly Were it or should it be otherwise yet better be idle than do worse better do nothing than sin against God encourage others in their evil deeds Which he confesseth to be true upon supposition that publick hearing is a sin 't were better be idle than do that Whether we have manifested it to be so let the indifferent Reader judge We add 4thly There is no necessity of being idle if thou knowest not where to hear on that day If thou hast a sight of thy interest in God thou mayst spend thy time in admiring magnifying the rich love of the Lord to thee if not in getting thy interest cleared up unto thee in studying thine own heart getting sin mortified grace quickened strengthened reaching after
Saints Liberty That 't is a sin against the 5th Commandment is ridiculous till he hath proved them our spiritual Parents Sect. 3. Non-hearing the present Ministers tends not to Schism The nature of Schism The Schism condemned in the Church of Corinth what 'T is not to have the Faith of our Lord Jesus Christ with respect of persons The 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or accepting persons condemned Jam. 2. 1. what it is 'T is not to cause offences and divisions contrary to Rom. 12. 4 5. 14. 1. 15. 1. 16. 17. Nor making inclosures coâ—â—â—â— to 1 Cor. 14. 36. Phil. 3. 15 16. explained The vanity of Mr. T. his arguings from thence manifested The Holy Ghosts recording the Prophesiâ— of Balaam Of Caiphas of Infidel Idolatrous Poets no grounds for the Saints to hear the present Ministers The impertinency of 1 Thes 5. 20 21. to his purpose Nothing can be argued to prove the lawfulness of hearing them from the Authors concession Chap. 2. Our Reasons against hearing them cannot righteously be retorted against our selves The grounds of our denying the lawfulness thereof neither false nor doubtful The Ministers of England have not sufficiently proved the truth of their Ministry Of the duty of Christians with respect to hearing The power of the Church over Ministers Non-hearing the present Ministers takes not away the the Christians Liberty Is no negative Superstition Our denial of the lawfulness of hearing them no denial of the Kingship of Christ or usurpation thereof No hindrance of the knowledge of Gods Word No evil consequences or absurdities follow hereupon FOR the lawfulness of hearing the present Ministers Mr. T. further argues thus Arg. 22. That which tends to Schism amongst Christians or to a breach of that peace unity and love should be among them who have the same God Lord Spirit Faith that is the same or very like Schism among the Corinthians or tends to it and hath begotten or is like to beget the same if not worse effects among the Christians in England is to be avoided as a great evil and that which tends to peace among them is a great good to be imbraced 1 Thes 5. 13. 1 Cor. 12. 25 26 27. But the non-hearing the present Ministers of England tends to Schism amongst Christians Therefore Answ We deny his Minor Non-hearing the present Ministers is not Schism tends not to it is nothing like the Schism amongst the Corinthians For 1st We were never by our free consent Members of the Church of England 2dly It 's no particular instituted Church of Christ 3dly We meet not with them and there dispute side quarrel contend when met together for the celebration of the samâ— numerical Ordinances as was the case of the Church of Corinth The matter of Schism is so clearly stated our non-concern therein with respect to our departure from the Church of England by Dr. Owen in his Treatise of Schism that as Mr. Cawdrey hath not Mr. T. will never be able solidly to reply thereunto 4thly We do nothing in our separating from them than what God calls us to as we have proved If the disturbance of peace envyings ensue hereupon we cannot help it these things were the frequent attendments of the Gospel in the first promulgation thereof as is known whilst we make it our care to keep the guilt of these things from off us we are innocent and not concern'd with the bitter and passionate declamations of persons hereabout We may with more evidence of truth argue That which tends to Schism amongst the Churches of Christ or to a breach of the peace unity and love which should be among them which is the same or much like the Schism that was amongst the Members of the Church of Corinth is to be avoided as a great evil But the hearing the present Ministers tends to Schism Therefore He further Argues Arg. 23. That which is to have the Faith of our Lord Jesus Christ with respect of persons for other reasons than their faith is sinful and unlawful Jam. 2. 1. But to hear one that preacheth the Faith of Christ because he is of our particular Society or by reason of particular interest or agreement in opinion or any other than the unity of Faith in the Lord Jesus and to declaim hearing another that hath the same Faith preacheth it and holds communion with them that imbrace it or to separate from such He should have added because he is not of our particular Society or by reason of particular interest or non-agreement in opinion is to have the Faith of our Lord Jesus with respect of persons Therefore Answ We may grant the whole without the least disadvantage to the cause we have undertaken the defence of we refuse not the hearing the present Ministers because not of our particular Society but for other Reasons of which before 2. The 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or accepting persons that is condemned Jam. 2. 1. is a respecting persons for their outward condition in the world as their riches honour with the neglect or contempt of others though equal or better deserving for their poverty or the like which cannot be charged upon us with respect to the present Ministers so that this instance of the Apostle is not at all to his purpose He adds Arg. 24. To cause offences and divisions contrary to the Doctrine taught us in the Scriptures is sinful and unlawful Rom. 16. 17. But those who teach men not to hear their Ministers which preach to them the truth of Gods VVord because they are not in a Congregational Church or not Elected and Ordained according to the Rules of such Churches or because they conform to some things conceived unwarrantable which are made the reasonâ— of unlawfulness to hear the present Ministers do cause offences and divisioâ—s contrary to the Doctrine Rom. 12. 4. 5. 14. 1. 15. 1. Therefore Answ This Argument is bottom'd upon many miserable mistakes the discovery whereof will expose it to the contempt of all that pass by for its insufficiency and weakness in respect of the end aimed at by it 1st We teach not men not to hear their own Ministers but such as â—ccording to the appointment of Christ were never such 2dly VVe teach them not to avoid such as preach the pure Word of God but suct as corrupt it intermixing therewith the leaven of Antichristianism and Superstition which Mr. T. tells us in his Fermentum Pharisaeâ—â—um is a good ground to avoid hearing them 3dly We say not that they are not to be heard meerly because not in a Congregational Church but because we are destitute of any Scripture-Warrant for our so doing because they walk disorderly act from an Antichristian Call That this is to cause offences contrary to the Doctrine Rom. 12. 4. 14. 1. 15. 1. which forbids the giving offence to weak Believers by the intempestive using of our Liberty in things indifferent is such a frivolous conceit as persons