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A20950 A learned treatise of traditions, lately set forth in French by Peter Du Moulin, and faithfully done into English by G.C.; Des traditions et de la perfection et suffisance de l'Escriture Saincte. English Du Moulin, Pierre, 1568-1658.; G. C. 1631 (1631) STC 7329; ESTC S111075 138,687 440

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Milan which is neere Rome they fasted not on Saturdayes as Saint Augustine testifieth in his 118. Epistle Thirdly single life of Priests and 3. Single life of Priests Bishops cannot be an Apostolicall Tradition because it was not practised at the time of the Apostles nor many ages after them But having spoken of this elsewhere at large I will content my selfe for the present with the testimony of the two most famous Cardinals of this age Barronius and Perron Baronius in the 58. yeere of his Annales Bar. Ann. 58 §. 14. acknowledgeth that married men were received to the function of Bishop at the Apostles time whereof hee alledgeth divers causes and namely amongst the rest the scarcity of unmarried men especially in Crete And Perron affirmeth Du Perron cōtre le Roy de la grand ' Bretagne pag. 312. A cause respondrens nous de la rareté des personnes marices lors de la naissance de l'Eglise c. Mais depuis comme l'Emperour Constantin c. that this permission lasted untill the time of Constantine that is to say during the three first ages But if he would have confessed the whole truth he had acknowledged that Greeke Churches never was any time when Priests were not married yea they so continue to this very day And the 13. Canon of the sixt generall Councel called at the Imperial Palace of Constantinople doth formally condemne the Church of Rome upon this subject Estius Doctor and Professor at Doway in his Commentary upon this passage of the Apostle 1 Tim. 3. Let the Bishop Fatendum est Avestolum permittere vt in Episcopum eligatur qui habeat verum id pro tēpore propter paucitatem eorla qui et coelibes essent ad Episcopatum idonei be husband of one wife speaketh thus We must confesse that the Apostle suffereth us to chuse a Bishop that is married to one wife but he teacheth this according to the time because of the fewnesse of unmaried men and of such as were fit for the function of a Bishop Therefore this Tradition claimeth not the Apostles to bee the Authours of it and consequently is not Apostolicall nor hath it beene received at all times and in all places I have insisted hereupon not that wee should have need of the authority of the ancients to fight against Romish Traditions for refutation whereof the word of God is sufficient and is only that which ought to judge us but to shew that our Adversaries supposing to establish their Traditions doe plainely destroy them and doe giue such notes whereby they draw their owne inditement and conviction Neverthelesse it is not without craft that they will have Traditions to bee examined by this touchstone to wit whether they have beene universally received at all times For they know that of those who would examine their Traditions by this way scarce one amongst a thousand can attaine to the head of them and that the people can inform themselves nothing at all therein for this examination cannot bee made but by the reading of all the Greeke and Latine Fathers and of all the Ecclesiasticall histories since the continuation of sixteene hundred yeeres All the bookes to this purpose would fill a spacious roome and are no more then sealed letters to the people yea amongst the Clergie not one of a hundred will bee found that hath but ordinary knowledge therein By this meanes our Adversaries contrive the matter that when their Traditions come to be examined a way must bee undertaken that is endlesse wherein the people walke blindefold and are constrained to repaire to the testimony of such men as preach these Traditions and live by them truly if by these directions men expect to arrive at the knowledge of salvation I know not who can be saved The which most cleerely appeareth in this that the holy Scripture being the short and sure means to examiue Traditions they sequester it farre from the peoples eyes and divert them from reading therof appointing them to books wherein they are neither comprehensive nor capable It appeareth likewise in the examination of Traditions by the history of every age wherein ordinarily they commence with the last age and so walke retrograde in the calculation of their times to the end they may arrive as late as possibly they can at the Apostles time and their writings CHAP. XV. The second marke set by our Adversaries to distinguish the good Traditions from the bad to wit Succession To discerne the good Traditions from the bad our Adversaries agree that those ought to be held for divine and Apostolicall which are received by the Churches that derive their succession from the Apostles This marke hath no more certainty then the former and maketh as much against our Adversaries The doubtfulnesse of it is manifest in this that the Churches of Antioch of Alexandria of Ephesus of Thessalonica of Candia c. which are contrary to the Romish Church and more ancient doe boast themselves to bee of equall succession and one part of them challengeth a succession from Saint Peter yea before the Churches of Alexandria and Antioch did suffer any interruption by the persecutions of the Mahumetans they were often in discord with the Church of Rome and were not in any wise subject unto it and more particularly the Church of Thessalonica founded upon Saint Paul and the Church of Candia where Saint Paul established Titus from whom descended the Bishops of Candia keepe a succession from the Apostles which never was interrupted and hath continued since the time of Christ who speaking from heaven sent the Apostle Saint Paul yet notwithstanding these Churches are separated from a communion with the Church of Rome and the Pope holdeth them for Schismatickes and Heretikes As for the Bishop of Rome so many schismes dividing and so many heresies tainting his Seat as our Adversaries themselves confesse and we have elsewhere proved have long since broken the ranke of this imaginary succession Also the uncertainty of this succession betrayeth it selfe in that it is a meere tradition so as if the service of Images or the Communion under one kinde be founded upon succession behold then Traditions founded upon a Tradition and this Tradition founded upon humane histories which may mistake yea often doe jarre and disagree wherefore this is an uncertainty founded upon another uncertainty as atomes and motes carried upon the aire But how shall a Mechanicke or a woman know this succession How shall they be assured that the second Bishop of Rome hath beleeved in the points of Religion as the first the third as the second the fourth as the third and so for sixteene hundred yeeres though there never might have happened any alteration Who doth not perceive that these men by a palpable falshood invent projects wherof they know that the knowledge is impossible and wherein the search is a labour in vaine to the end that the ignorant finding themselves muffled up in darknesse
with the fire of the last judgement Particularly Chrysostome was of opinion that the Soules could not bee tormented without the bodies as hee speaketh in his 39. Homily upon the 1. to the Corintbians And in the same passage where his 3. Homily upon the Ep●stle to the Philippians is objected to vs hee supposeth that the dead which are comforted by lamentations and prayers are not the faithfull but the infidells So as this passage maketh altogether against the Church of Rome Though Saint Augustine be punctuall and excellent in this subject as we have seene yet they would make him an advocate to plead for unwritten Traditions in matter concerning the faith This holy Father hath beleeved and we with him that the necessary Doctrines which concerne faith and maners are sufficiently contained in the holy Scriptures And for some certaine Customes Ceremonies and outward observations because they are generally received he beleeveth they are derived from ancient unwritten Tradition It becommeth none to gainesay this but frantickes or such as are given to a contradicting humour and are enemies to the peace Good reason for it To give you some instance Aug. ad Ianuar Epist 118. Illa qua non scripta sed tradita custodimus quae quidem toto terrarum orbe servantur dantur intelligi vel ab ipsis Apostolu vel pleparijs Concilijs quorū est in Ecclesia saluberrima authoritas commendata atque statuta retine 1. Sicut quod Domini passio et resurrectio ascensio in coelu et advētus de coelo Spiritus Sancti anniversaria solemnitate celebra●ur It is not commanded in the Scripture to celebrate annually the day of our Saviours Nativity nor of the Paschall nor of the Lords Resurrection nor of Pentecost which is the day whereo● the holy Ghost descended upon the Apostles For Saint Augustine in his 118. Epistle bringeth these examples where he saith To stirre up dissentions hereupon for matters in their owne nature not necessary to salvation but authorized by the generall custome of so many ages should be according to my judgment according to the truth a despightfull perversenesse yea a symptome of distraction confounding all concord and quietnesse In like manner doth the Scripture give no charge touching the precise houre of administring the holy Supper Iesus Christ occasionally performed it after Supper to place and substitute the holy Eucharist immediatly to the Paschal Lambe But it appeareth by the History of the Acts that the Apostles were not obliged to this houre and since that time the generall custome was to celebrate it in the morning I say for a man hereupon to separate himselfe from the Communion of the Church and to make a schisme or trouble the peace of the Church in a matter that concerneth not the Doctrine of faith nor is necessary to salvation What is it but stubborne arrogance It is most necessary not to molest the Church for matters not necessary in their owne nature If the mischiefe bee not great for as much as concerneth the Doctrine yet is it of no small importance for what concerneth the manners and the many inconveniences that ensue thereon This is the same that Saint Augustine teacheth in his 118 Epistle to Ianuarius where he argueth the case whether they bee well advised who appoint that on Thursday before the Paschal the holy Supper be twice solemnized that is to say in the morning after evening repast His answer is If Quid horum sit facienū si divina Scriptura praescribit authoritas non sit dubitandū quin ita facere debeamus vt legimus c. Sioniliter etiam si quid horum totā per orbē frequentat Ecclesia Nā hoc quin ita faciendum sit disputare insolentissima insania est the authority of the holy Scripture prescribe what is to be done wee are not to doubt but that wee ought to doe as wee reade c. As also if there bee any thing that the universall Church doth practise thorowout the world For to dispute whether this should bee done or no is a meere lunacie But in other matters as that concerning the houre of the holy Supper which doe vary according to the places he alloweth that every man should follow the custome of his countrey He speaketh of the same otherwhere As in the second booke of Quā consu●tudinē credo ex Apostolica traditione vinientē sicut multa nō inveniuntur in literis eorum neque in Concilijs posterioru Et tamē quia per vniversame custodiuntu Ecclesiam non nisi ab ipsis tradita commendata creduntur Quod vniversa tenet Ecclesia nec Concilijc institutu sed semper retentū est no nist auctoritate Apostolica institutū rectissimè creditur Apostolis qui dē nihil exinde praecep● king ●t sed contudo alia 〈◊〉 oppnetur Cypria●ab eorum ●ditione ordium ●mpsisse cre●nda est Si-●t sunt mul-●t quae vni●ersa tenet Ecclesia at ob●oc abd Apotolis praecep●a bene creduntur quanquā scripta non reportantur Baptisme against the Donatists the seventh Chapter Which Custome not to rebaptize Heretickes I beleeve to bee derived from Apostolicall Tradition as many things are not found written in their bookes nor the Councels of posterity after them Neverthelesse because they are kept by the Catholike Church it is beleeved that they were delivered by none but them And in his fourth booke chap. 24. That which the universall Church doth keepe and hath not beene instituted by Councels but hath alwayes be●ne preserved is justly beleeved to have beene given for no other Tradition but Apostolicall And in his fifth booke chap. 23. The Apostles have commanded nothing to that purpose speaking of the re-baptizing of Hereticks but we must beleeve that the other Custome which was opposed against Cyprian tooke beginning from their Tradition As there are many things which the universall Church observeth and therefore are beleeved to be insti●uted by the Apostles although they appeare not in writing In this Tract he speaketh concerning the Custome of not re-baptizing those who have beene baptized by Heretickes which is no point necessary to salvation For how many men are saved that never heard discourse of this question If a man once baptized bee re-baptized the second time although his second Baptisme be superfluous yet neverthelesse the fault not being in him that is rebaptized he shall not be therefore debarred from salvation Or if the Baptisme of Heretikes be unlawfull yet hee that is converted from heresie to the true faith having received no other Baptisme shall not be deprived of salvation because it happeneth not by his default It is not the privation but the neglect and contempt of Baptisme that impeacheth mans salvation Saint Cyprian and his Predecessour Agrippine and with them all the Bishops of Africke have in this point beene of a contrary opinion to the Romish Church and by expresse Councels have condemned the Doctrine held in that Church Would our
body or of making any ●lation to God The Pope then 〈◊〉 the Sacraments changeth essen●all things as well as accidentall ●nd by the way obserue but the ●ride of this Councell and detestable impietie to bee of opinio● that the Church of Rome knoweth better then Iesus Christ wh● is expedient for the peoples sa● vation Doeth not the Councell Constance in the thirteenth Session Lieut in Primitiva Ecclesia hususmodi Sacramentū reciperetus a fidelibus sub vo●aque specis c. confesse that in the primitiv● Church and consequently in th●● of the Apostles this Sacrame● is to bee received by the faith full under both kinds yet after wards forbad the Cup to bee ●●ven to the people This Tradi● tion which a little while sino● hath changed the Apostles observation cannot bee an Apostolical Tradition The Glosse vpon the Canor● Lector in the foure and thirtieth Distinction of the Romish Decree saith that Papa dispensat contra Apostolum the Pope dispenseth again● the Apostle Pope Innocent the third saith in Innocent 3. Decret Deconcess prabend tit 8. cap. Proposuit Secundū planitudinem potestat is de iure supra ius possumus dispensate manner Wee may according to fulnesse of our power dispose of the 〈◊〉 and dispense aboue the Law And ●reover the Glosse of the Doc●rs addeth For the Pope dispen● against the Apostle and against the Testament as also in the vowes and ●hs And the Glosse of the Ca●● Sunt quidam in the 1. question the 25. cause Papa dispensat in angelio interpretando ipsum the ●pe dispenseth in the Gospell in ●ving it interpretation Cap. Quantà personam Non enim homo sed Deus separat ques Romanus Pontifox qui nō purs hominis sed veri Dei vicē gerit in terris Ecclesiarū necessitate pensata dissolvit In quae verba Glossa sic habet Etiam aliquid est secundū quod homo tit de haret cum Christus Et est verus Deus verus homo gerens veri Dei vicem Vnde dicitur habere coeleste arbitriū Etiam naturā rerum immutat substantialia vnius re● applicando aly Et de nullo potest aliquid faecere Et sententiā qua nulla est potest facere aliquam Quia in his qua vult ei est pro rations volun●as Nee est qui ei dicat cur ita facu ipse enim potest supra ius dispensare Idē de iniustitta potest facere iustitiam In the first booke of Gregory the ●nth decretall at the 7. title Chap. ●e 3. wee haue an Epistle of Inno●nt the 3. where hee speaketh ●us Those which the Bishop of Rome ●th separate it is not a man that sepa●teth them but God For the Pope holeth place on earth not simply of a man ●ut of true God Which the Glosse ●xplaineth by the example of Iesus Christ who is very God at very man informing vs likewi● that the Pope though hee bee ver● God yet leaueth not to bee som● thing the same that man is In pro●secution where of the same Gloss● declareth how far forth the Pope power doth ex●end which is Th● he hath celestiall goverment and ther● fore may change the nature of thing● applying the substance of the o●e to th● other of nothing can create something and a Decree that is void hee ca● make it in force for in matters the hee will haue come to passe his will i● his reason and no m●n questione● him wherefore doe you that for he ca● dispense aboue the Law and of in iustice can make iustice and proueth all this by multitudes of Canons and Decrees Cardinall Bellarmine speakes as much in the 31. Chap. against In bono sensu dedit Christus Petro potestatem faciendi de peccato non peccatum de non peccato peccatum Barkley In good sense and judgement ●rist hath given to Peter and conse●ently to the Pope the power of ma●g that to bee sinne which is no sinne It ●d that which is no sinne to be sinne It no wonder then if by the same ●wer he can make iustice to be in●tice and sinne to be no sinne that ● can nullifie the Apostles ordi●nces and make them v●iust as so cancell the old Traditions and Bell. lib. 4. de Pontet cap. 5 Si Papa erraret in pracipiendo vttia vel prohibenao virtutes teneretur Ecclesia credere vitia esse bona virtutes malas nisi vellet contra conscientiā peccaro ●stablish new The same Cardinal ●roceedeth so farre as to say if ●he Pope erred in commanding vices ●nd forbidding vertues yet the Church ●hould bee obliged to beleeue that the ●ices are good and the vertues evill ●nlesse it would sinne against the ●onscience Andradius in his second booke of the defence of the Tridentiue Minime vero maiores nostri religione pietate excellentes Apostolorū haec quamplurima alta decreta refigere in ani●mum induxissent nisi intelle●cissent c. Liquet eos minima errasse qui dicunt Rom. Pontif posse nonnunquam in legibus dispensare à Paulo primis 4. Concilijs Cum certū sit nō omnia quae Apostols instituerūt iure divino esse instituta faith acknowledgeth that His ancestors men excelling in piety haue broken and annulled many Decrees of the Apostles And moreover pronounceth this sentence It is evident that those haue not erred who say that the Romish Pontifies can sometimes dispense with obeying the Law of the Apostle S. Paul and the fower first Councells Whereupon Cardinall Tolet in his first booke of Sacerdotall institution Chap. 68. giveth this reason For all that the Apostles haue instituted is not ordained jure diuino that is to say it ought not to bee held for the word of God Now amongst the Apostles ordinances to discerne such as are jure diuino from those as are not the Church of Rome hath no other rule but the Popes will and pleasure who can make a commandement of the Apostle to bee or not to bee held for the word of God This venerable Cardinall giveth vs the Apostles commandement for an example 1. Timot. 3. Let the Bishop bee husband of one wife For the Pope can admit and allow of bigamies to the Priesthood Cardinall Perron in his booke against the King of great Bretaine Lib. 2. Observat 3. cap. 3. pag 674. makes a Chapter expresly to that purpose entitled Of the authority of the Church to alter matters contained in the Scripture And in the same booke in the Chapter that handleth the Communion vnder both kinds hee saith that when in Pag. 1109. 1115. the forme of the Sacraments some great inconveniencies are mett withall the Church may therein dispense and alter And speaking of the Lords commandement Drinke yee all of it hee maintaineth that this precept was not immutable nor indispensable alleadging that the Church hath judged that there may bee dispensation for it Charles Bovius in his obseruations vpon the 24. Chap.
Councels which the Church of Rome hath approued and by the Popes favorites themselues Wherein also you may perceiue to the number of three and twentie Schismes and many contrary Popes at the same time mutualy entitling themselues Antichrists Yea wherein haue liued many infamous Popes Necromancers Adulterers Murtherers aduanced to the Popedome by whores by Simony and by violence Such as take vpon them the title of God causing themselues to bee adored and Kings to kisse their feete and the Scripture to bee prostrate before them when they enter into the Councels such as vante they cannot erre that they can make another Creed can change Gods ordinances can transport soules out of Purgatory into Paradise and ranke whom they please in the Catalogue of Saints by canonizing them vnder colour whereof they exercise an abhominable commerce and trafficke by Dispensations Absolutions Indulgences Annates Licences and Benefices So as from a poore Bishop of a Citie who was no way eminent but in martyrdomes the Pope is become a puissant temporall Monarch surpassing in riches the greatest Monarchs of the earth To effect so great an alteration it was needfull that Religion should bee changed for the purity and plainnesse of christianity regulated by the Scriptures could not serue to build vp so great an Empire These things haue I amply handled in my first Booke wherein I maintaine the Authoritie of the Scripture Which work went then forth almost the very day that lesuite Regourds Booke against the Authoritie and Perfection of the Scripture was published These two Bookes if any man will compare together shall finde that I answere all that hee pleadeth against the authoritie of the Scripture and that Regourds Booke satisfieth nothing of all that I propose in mine Before that he published his book a Challenge was brought to the Pastors of this Church of Sedan to enter into conference dispute with some Doctors amongst whō was Iesuite Regourd wherein they threatned us Wee accepted the Conference the place and day were assigned with all accommodations that after so many Defiances every mans honour should oblige him not to recant Neverthelesse hee durst not appeare and for two severall times failed at the day appoynted But his humour serving him at last to dispute and being thirstie of reputation hee went some where else to discharge his choler and in Conference seiseth upon Monsieur Mestrezat where he received all sort of disgrace so farre forth as his friends were faine to make use of superiour power to draw him from the combate and to hinder the Conference from Printing for it could not be seene but to his dishonour and that in a place where all things were favourable unto him and where the language of Truth is very new and strange And so retired this wittie Doctor as well contented as satisfied being not so wisely advised but to make trophies and signes of victory considering there were so many witnesses CHAP. VIII A Proofe of the same by the practise of the Primitiue Church WEe haue proved by many passages of our Adversaries that in the Church of Rome Traditions are much more esteemed and of greater authority then the Scripture which they so much under-value and charge with a thousand reproaches and that by injustice and most fraudulently the Councell of Trent seemes to make them equall Now are we to proue the same by the practise and maximes of the Church of Rome I. In the first place when our adversaries ground the authority of the Scripture upon tradition of the Church and would haue the Scripture received and beleeved because the Church doth so ordaine it It is evident that they preferre Tradition before Scripture for they make Scripture to depend upon Tradition esteeme Tradition of the Church more worthy of belife then Scripture and beleeue not the Scripture but because the Church of Rome hath so commanded it II. Let vs looke vpon experience and wee shall informe our selues that in the Church of Rome the people is a thousand fold more carefully instructed in Tradition then in the doctrine of salvation contained in holy Scriptures The most ignorant know the meaning of Lent and the foure Seasons they are instructed in the difference of meats they are skilled in Festivall dayes and Eues they goe in Pilgrimage visite the Reliques gaine Pardons purchase Masses Obits and Suffrages for the dead speake of Purgatory mumble over their Chaplet or Beads and their Rosary or our Ladies Psalter and discourse of the Popes succession in Saint Peters Chaire but they are ignorant in the holy Scripture accounting it modestie and humility not to enquire much after it Aske them upon the doctrine of our Redemption in Iesus Christ upon Iustification by faith vpon our free Adoption upon the correspondencie betweene the Law and the Gospell upon the difference between the old and new Testament upon the causes wherefore it was necessary that our Redeemer should bee God and man in the vnitie of person vpon the ends of their Resurrection and Ascension upon the Doctrine of faith and good works which are the poynts wherein consisteth the essence of Christian Religion and you shall finde them as mute as fishes and altogether uninstructed III. Baptisme is a divine Institution but Confirmation such as is practised in the Church of Rome and confection of the Crisome are humane Inventions Yet are they much more honoured then Baptisme for in the Church of Rome a woman yea a Pagan and Iew may baptize and giue that which they haue not and Confirmation is not administred nor Crisome consecrated but by the Bishop with great solemnitie IV. God hath commanded St. Peter and the other Apo●●les to preach the Gospell but gaue them no command to giue Indulgences nor to canonize Saints nor to release soules out of Purgatory nor to consecrate their Agnus Dei and their blessed Beads The first poynt is a commandement of God the other things are humane Traditions which the Pope doth performe with preparation and solemnitie but hee preacheth not the Gospell esteeming the labour of preaching as a thing vnworthy of his greatnesse Insomuch as the Popes are industrious observers of their owne Traditions and adore their owne proper Inventions but dispense with the Lords commandements V. Hence commeth it to passe that the sinnes committed against Gods Law are held to be light in comparison of those committed against the Traditions Decrees and Canons of the Pontifies The inferiour Priests giue absolution of thest of lying and of whoredome which are sinnes against the Law of God but there are cases reserved wherein no man in France can giue absolution but at the poynt of death and they are specified in the Bull De Coena Domini which the Pope thundereth euery yeere on Maunday Thursday before the Paschall The sinnes that are most enormous and whereof no man but the Pope maketh absolution are not murther parricide incest sodomy and perjury but to appeale from the Pope to a future Councell to withdraw Tythes from
universall Councels most ancient of greatest authority and which Pope Gregory the first equalleth to the foure Evangelists Pope Gelasius speakes the same for in his Tome of the Bond of an Anathema disputing against one of the foure first Councells to wit against that of Chalcedon where there were sixe hundred and thirty Bishops he urgeth thus The Apostolicall Seat alone dissanulleth that which a Synodall Assembly Quod refutauit sedes Apostolica habere non potuit firmitatem sola rescind● qd prater ordinē congregatio Synodica pis● taverit vsurpandum though to haue vsurped against order The subject of his choler against this so famous and honourable assembly was for that in this Councell is framed a Canon ordaining that the Bishop of Constantinople should be equall to the Bishop of Rome in all things and that hee should haue the same preheminences CHAP. XI Of what sort how weake and how vncertaine the foundations are wheron Traditions of the Romish Church are built and of the three maximes that serue for their defence and prop. THe Traditions of the Church of Rome are of so great a number that a meere Catalogue of them would furnish out a large volume The whole rabble of them hath these three maximes for their foundation 1. That the Pope is Successor to St. Peter in the charge of Head of the universall Church 2. Secondly that the Pope cannot erre in the faith 3. That the Apostles haue not set downe in writing all that they did teach by word of mouth Hee that will comprehend the nature of these maximes shall know that they evert the Christian faith and consume all Religion into smoke for if the Maximes wheron all Papistry is founded and all the body of Romish Traditions bee imaginary maximes and purely humane not to giue a worse phrase it is impossible that the Religion which is built thereupon can haue the least tittle of assurance 1. The first maxime that layeth downe the Pope to bee Saint Peters Successor in the charge of Head of the vniversall Church is destitute of all testimony of Gods Word and our Adversaries to vphold it produce nothing but humane testimonies Whence it followeth that it is not an Article of the Christian Faith and that it cannot be beleeved for a certaintie of faith for the Christian faith is grounded upon the Word of God Faith commeth by ●earing and hearing by the Word of God Rom. 10. 17. But the Church of Rome giveth his maxime not onely for an Ar●cle of Faith but also for a foun●ation of all the other Articles of ●aith and of the whole Religion For in the Church of Rome the Popes authoritie is planted to be a Foundation of the Church and of all the doctrine of salvation to the very subjecting of the Scripture that is to say the word of God to his authoritie and to cause that the authoritie of the Scripture depend vpon the opinion of the Church of Rome and all this by vertue of that pretended Succession to St. Peter Briefly our Adversaries make all Christian Religion to hang vpon this poynt as Bellarmine acknowledgeth at the entrance of the Preface in his Books of the Pope speaking thus To say in a word when mention is made of the Etenim de qua re agitur cum de primatu Pontificis agitur breutssime dicam de summa rei christianae ●● ent● quaeritur aebeatne Ecelesia diutius consistere an vero dissolui concidere Observ andic est tertia licet force no sit de ●ure diuno Romanis̄ Pontificē ut Romanum Pentificem Petro succecere tamen ●● ad fidem Catholicam pertinere Nō enim est idem alsquid esse de fide et esse de ture divine Nec enim de oure divine fuit ●● Paulus h●beret penulā est tamen ●●● ipsum de fide 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 penulam Etsi autem Romanum Pontificem suc●edere Petro nō habeatur expresse in scripturis c. Popes supremacy the summe of all Christianitie is at stake for the question is whether the Church ought to subsist any longer or whether it must bee dissolved and fall Thereunto doe all the Controversies referre and all the Traditions ayme at the profit and greatnesse of the Pope yet the same Cardinall at the 12. chap. of the second Booke of the Pope acknowledgeth that the Scripture maketh no mention of the Popes succession in the place of Saint Peter and that this poyut is not jure divino Neverthelesse hee affiemeth that this succession though it bee not jure divino leaueth not to appertaine to the Catholick faith In the same manner as the Catholicke faith beleeueth that Saint Paul had a Friers weed though that were not jure divine and that God had not commanded any thing to that purpose Hence it is manifest that all the diuine doctrine is founded vpon a plaine humane Tradition to weet a Tradition vnwritten That God hath ordained the Pope of Rome for Successour in the Primacy of Saint Peter Thus you see Tradition grounded vpon tradition that is vpon it selfe and this infinite Masse of traditions is founded vpon a Traditions that is no more jure diuino then Saint Pauls weed whereof never was any diuine Testimony extant I will not at this time enter into proofes of the falsity of this matter which wee haue handled in diuers places especially in my booke that went before and shewed the vntruths by aboundance of reason and authority drawne from antiquity I say but this that the ancient Bishops of Rome were called Successours of Saint Peter in the Bishopricke only of the Citie of Rome but not in the Apostleship nor in the goverment of the vniuersall Church Iust as the Bishops of Ierusalem were called Successors of Saint Iames and those of Antioch of Saint Peter and those of Ephesus of Saint Paul and of Saint Iohn not in the Apostl ship but in the Bishopricke of th● townes wherein these Apostles had planted the Church Our adversaries produce not any example or passage of the ancient Church whereby it may appeare that ever the Bishops of Rome attributed any authority to themselues over the Churches that are out of the Romane Empire I say also that when the Bishop of Rome was heretofo●e Successor to Saint Peter in place of head of the Church so it was that the heresies which infected this seat as our adversaries themselues doe confesse and the Popes complaine of it and the Schismes which haue rent it there hauing beene two Popes at once sometimes three at the same instant prosecuting one the other to extremity and calling one the other Antichrist did long since breake the chaine of this succession In which Schismes ordinarily the most vicious and most cunning caried it and hee excluded his adversary who had the favour of those Emperours and Kings on whom the fortune of warre did smile This continued straine of succession not being possibly knowen but by the multitude of Histories and Authors both
Greeke and Latine who very often jarre among themselues so far as not to agree vpon the next Successours to Saint Peter it is impossible that the people should know any thing in this succession o● should haue any assurance hereof but by the Testimony of those who brag of it and liue by it Moreover our adversaries doe confesse that the Pope and church of Rome may erre in the question de facto Now these questions to weet whethe● Saint Peter hath left the Bishop of Rome Successour of his Apostleship or of his Supremacy and whether this succession hath not beene interrupted by Schismes and heresies are questions de facto and consequently of the nature of those wherein our adversaries hold that the Church of Rome may erre And the proofes which our adversaries bring forth are drawne from books which theirselues conuince of falsity and from such fragments as for the most part are supposititious I forbeare to censure any further the certainty of Romish traditions seeing they are all founded vpon one Maxime which is a Tradition humane not vpheld by any Ordinance of God a Tradition which is not an Article of the Christian faith yet at this time is put downe for the ground of Faith a Tradition which is of the nature of those wherein our adversaries confesse that the Church may erre a Tradition whereof the people can haue no certainty nor knowledge but by bookes both Greeke and Latine of infinite length wherein they vnderstand nothing and by the Testimony of those especially who propose it that is to say the Popes who receiuing not the Scripture for Iudge cal themselues supreme Iudges and infallible in all controuersies more especially in that wherein is pleaded their succession and their owne proper authority and infallibility Now it is an easie matter to guesse at what the proceedings of the Enemy of our saluation doe levell Their butt scope is to distill as it were all Religion into a vapour and to make it depend vpon presuppositions not only vaine and vncertaine but also false and imaginary as he that should beare vp an obeliske vpon a smal feskue When some demand Wherefore is it behouefull to receive Traditions the answere is because the Pope hath ordained it Againe if it be demanded whence commeth this authority of the Pope it is answered Because Saint Peter dying hath left the Bishop of Rome Successour of his Supremacy over the Church of the whole world Moreouer when it is asked Can you produce any Ordinance of God for this succession for this point being estated by you for the foundation of the Church and of all the Christian faith it is not credible that God hath ordained nothing of it there they stand caught by the nose not vttering one syllable of the word of God and doe confesse that this succession is not lure diuino nor by the Ordinance of God Only the Popes will bee therein beleeued and call themselues supreme and absolute in a case wherein they are so much interessed and wherein it is disputed of their succession and authority Thus you may see all the Ius diuinum founded vpon a point which is not Iure diuino and all the divine doctrine founded vpon humane Tradition yea vpon humane Testimony the most vncertaine of all for the certainty of the Popes succession is founded vpon the Testimony and authority of the Pope himselfe who is party in this cause and who by this Tradition ruleth and vpholdeth his Empire Nay they doe worse they make not onely these Traditions but the very authority of the holy Scripture to depend vpon this Tradition Let it bee demanded wherefore ought we to beleeue that God hath created man after his owne Image that he hath giuen his Law to Moses in two Tables and that the Sonne of God hath taken flesh in the wombe of the blessed Virgine and is dead for vs It is answered that this is to be beleeued because it is written in the holy Scripture that God hath inspired his Prophets and Apostles Againe let it bee asked wherefore ought the holy Scriptures to bee beleeued and why are wee obliged to put our faith therein The answere Basiliensis Concilȳ appēdice Ecclesia Romana sic lequitur Qued autem verum feret Christi Evāge leum qu●m●de scire possetu nisi illud vobis patefeeissem Audistu nōnullos ex Apostolu scripsisse Evangelia Sed quo●iam quatuer duntaxat approbavi ● Ra vt Evangelia venerantur alia respuuntur is Because the Church of Rome hath so ordained it which hath this authority by vertue of her succession in Supremacy of Saint Peter But vpon this question haue you any commandement from God they answere the holy Scripture indeed speaks nothing of it but the church of Rome is supreme Iudge and hath more authority over vs then the Scripture Neverthelesse in this point it is disputed of the authority of the Church of Rome wherein it is no reasonable thing that shee should bee Iudge much lesse to assigne her selfe Iudge aboue the Scripture Doe but obserue what becommeth of all Christian Religion in the account of these Merchants Their will is that God should bee beleeued because men ordained it and that the diuine truth should haue no other foundation then the evidence and authority of lying men yea such as will bee Iudges in their owne cause and who hauing invented a thousand Traditions all tendi●g to their profit hold them all vp by one Tradition alone which hath no other foundation then their owne authority There is no such pernicious stratageme to pervert the Christian Religion as to confound the things that are certaine by vncertaine proofes to plead humane Tradition for their highest and concluding principle and to order that the Christian faith should haue a Maxime that is no Articie of faith and is vpheld by no other authority then of those that publish it and such as by this Maxime enrich themselues and build them vp an Empire on the earth yea all the Churches in the world except the Romish doe reject this Maxime and laugh at this succession as a story contradicted by all antiquity and especially by al the Bishops of Rome who whilst the Romane Empire was in florishing estate never intermedled in any affaire beyond the limits of that Empire as I haue proued at large in my first Treatise The second Maxime is of the same nature and dependeth vpon the first Our adversaries to maintaine all their Traditions say that the Pope cannot erre in the Faith and that likewise by vertue of the same succession For they will haue the Pope Successour not only of the power of Saint Peter but also of his infallibility Now if the Pope should be Successour of the Supremacy of Saint Peter it followeth not thereupon that the Pope cannot erre for hee that is Successour of the charge of another is not therefore Successor of his vertue The Doctors that haue succeeded in the chaire of Moses haue
should approach and teach them the come that is to say the future ●● vents of things foretold in the Epistles written by the Apostles as for example that there should arise 1. Tim 4 false Doctors teaching to abstaine from mariage and victual and that the son of perdition should name 2. Th●ss 2. himselfe God and should practise with signes miracles to seduce and that the great Whore clothed Apoc. 17. in scarlet sitting in a Towne of seven mountaines should intoxicate Kings and glut her selfe with the blood of the faithfull c. As also the estate and condition of the Christian Church and of the spiri●uall kingdome of Iesus Christ which the Apostles did not as then fully comprehend Aboue all they presse the 15. verse of the second chapter of the second to the Thessalonians Therefo●e brethren stand fast and hold the traditions which ye haue b●ene taught whether by word or our Epistle The word Tradition which the 〈◊〉 Apostle maketh use of doth purport and signifie all instruction In Au I. ch de ceste controverse this sense the Scripture it selfe is a Tradition as wee haue already proved As touching this passage our aduersaries doe inferre that besides the Epistle which S. Paul wrote to the Thessalonians hee had vttered vnto them many things by word of mouth vnto which I shall willingly condescend for wee would not maintaine that the first Epistle to the Thessalonians contained all the doctrine of salvation our dispute is not whether a little Epistle of Saint Paul but whether the old and new Testament containe all that is necessary to salvation therefore this passage is not to purpose Moreouer when the same Apostle did say Hold the traditions which you haue learned by our word or by the holy Scriptures it must not bee thereupon concluded that the mysteries which hee had tolde them were others then those that are written for the same thing may be taught by divers meanes And when the precepts delivered by the Apostles mouth had some disparitie with those that are written wee could say that such things flowing from the Apostles mouth over and aboue that which is found in the Scriptures were not poynts of Faith but Ordinances touching Ecclesiasticall policie Yea when wee shall haue yeelded to our adversaries all that they wish and long for yet is all fruitlesse and nothing done by them unlesse they proue that these Traditions which they say were given to the Thessalonians by mouth are the poynts whereof consisteth our controversie to wit the Popes Supremacie over the Church of the whole world Romish Indulgences single life of Priests the Communion under one kind borrowed Satisfactions a restraint of reading the Scripture Masses without Communicants Prayers wherein the Petitioner understandeth nothing the power of the Pope to release soules out of Purgatory and to depose Kings c. which are Traditions of a new impression and which the Church of the Thessalonians yet subsisting and hath so continued since the Apostle Saint Paul did never beleeue nor as yet alloweth of their validitie but defieth them with all loathing and detestation Saint Ambrose in his Commentarie vpon this place by the Tradition whereof the Apostle speaketh vnderstands the doctrine of the Gospell which our Adversaries would not deny to bee contal●nd Ve prasciantia Dei maneat in salute illorum ideirco in traditione Evangelij standū ac perseverandum monet in the New Testament To the ●d saith he that the foreknowledge ●f God should remaine in their salua●ion hee admonisheth them to stand ●ast and perseuere in the tradition of ●he Gospell I am of opinion I shall preuent ●ur Adversaries from interrupting ●ee more in the passages which ●hey alleadge Saint Paul saith ●Ve speake wisedome among those that ●re perfect 1. Cor. 2. 6. And againe ●aue before thine eyes and hold fast the ●atterne or forme of sound words which thou hast heard of me 2. Tim. 1. 13. In a third place now I praise ●ou that you remember mee in all ●hings and keepe my Ordinances as I deliuered them vnto you 1. Cor. 11. ● Ergo for so they conclude the things which are preached are dif●ering from those that are written And what are the things Invocation of Saints seruice to Image● c. In all this what a defect then is of common sense The jaw-bone of Sampsons Asse or Tobi● dog might be as well imployed Concerning the words in the 16. of the Acts at the 4. That Paul and Silas passing through the Cities instructed them to keepe the Ordinances decreed by the Apostles and by the Elders of Ierusalem In these Ordinances are vnderstood the restraints of eating blood strangled creatures whereof mention is made in Acts the 15. for in this voyage Paul and Silas were bearers of this Ordinance and Paul wa● expresly sent to performe th● same Now this Ordinance i● written as also the alteration wa● made since the Apostles time an● it is but a Ceremony ordained fo● a time and not a doctrine necessary to salvation and when som● Ordinances should be here vnderstood how shall it be proued vnto ●s that these Ordinances are others then those that are written how shall it bee proued vnto vs that these ordinances were invocation of Saints adoration of Re●iques the Popes Supremacie ● This will never bee proued CHAP. XVIII An answere to that which is objected unto us that the Church hath beene sometime without the Scripture TO undervalue the authority of the Scripture and to make it annecessary it is objected unto us that the Church from the creation untill Moses for the space of 2454 yeeres hath beene without the Scripture And that as Irenaeus is witnesse from the time of the Apostles and their Disciples ●●● nations whercunto the wrirings of the Apostles were not yet at that time come have not omitted conserve the purity of the Gospel To which wee answere that when God speaketh from heaven or sendeth Angels to instruct men concerning his will the Scripture might easily be neglected if at this day God spake from heaven and published his Oracles from above as hee spake heretofore to the Fathers and Patriarchs before Mases we should not seeke for any other instruction But this is no more and God having fully imparted his will unto us by the writings of his Prophets and Apostles we are obliged to follow the meanes wherewith his goodnesse hath furnished us and it is necessary to bee bound and compelled thereunto I say the same of the Church in the Apostles time whil'st it was cleerely illuminated by the preaching and miracles of so renowned instruments of the holy Spirit who were instructed by God in all verity those people which were taught by their mouth made no great esteeme of their writings but God having inspired them to leave in writing the effect of his will wherein he had well tutered them and they having not left behinde them one person of like authority and knowledge
defaults are therein found and giueth God thankes for it to the end that men finding no stedinesse or certainty in the Scripture may subiect themselues to the tyrannie of the Church that is to say of the Pope and there to find instruction these are his words The prouidence Demonstr 2. § 5. p. 128. of God to constraine vs yet more powerfully to vndergoe the yoke of the Church with humility and simplicity permitteth that there bee not only some alteration in certaine parcels of the Scripture and in some copie but the more the bookes of the Scripture are dispersed the more they shall alter and perish by tract of time whether they be in originall tongues or translations Without doubt hee that reioyceth at the deprauations which he imagineth to bee in Scripture and at the losse of some bookes and prayseth thererein the prouidence of God would much more solace himselfe and reioyce if all the Scripture were abolished For to what purpose serveth it if Tradition of the Church of Rome bee a perfect rule more certaine and of more authority then the holy Scripture and if the Pope iudge soueraignly and infallibly of all the points of faith for hee hath forbidden the people to reade the Scripture as a booke not onely unnecessary but also dangerous and that which hath made a great breach in the Popedome The same Iesuite pleaseth himselfe with this conceit of his inculcating it with often repetition As in the third Demonstration when he hath said that a man cannot assure himselfe of the sense of the Greeke Testament because it first was written without accents and distinctions whereon depends the sense hee addeth It is a worke of the providence of God to stoope our mindes and inclinations to the soveraigntie of the Church that is to say of the Pope who by consequence hath more authoritie then the Apostle S. Paul speaking to the Corinthians not that wee have dominion over your faith 2. Cor. 1. 24. But may not wee affirme it with more probability to be a worke of Gods providence that hee hath suffered so many schismes and heresies so much simony uncleannesse of life and crueltie to haue infected the seat of Rome whereby to referre us to the Scripture to make vs forsake those wicked guides and to subject us to his holy word and that God by his providence hath permitted that the Popes themselues haue confessed their owne errours And lastly that the Popes sycophants haue recorded unto us their crimes and heresies as I haue proved in my first Booke In short to bee throughly informed with what spirit this Iesuite is lead it is but to reade the same that hee hath written in his third Demonstration pag. 190. They cause them saith he to renounce the Church pretending that it consisteth of men that are faultie and lyers vnder a faire semblance of Scripture and vnder a plausible promise to governe all by the word of God But the truth is they depute a bleare-eyed Leah vnto them in lieu of a faire Rachel and submit faith to the soveraigne command of the will of Ministers who put into their hand a Scripture that is humane erronious mutable subject to correction c. This miserable Iesuite wil one day render an account to God of so damnable a speech wherein hee compareth the holy Scripture to bleare-eyed Leah and the Church of Rome to beautifull Rachel It is very false that wee renounce the Church but yet we maintaine that it ought to be subject to the Scripture and we renounce the doctrine of those who say that the Scripture is subject to the Church of Rome for God cannot be subject to men As for the soveraigne power of the Ministers function that might well bee retorted upon us for a reproach if wee boasted amongst us that they cannot erre that they haue power to change Gods commandements conteined in the holy Scriptures to adde to the Creed and to make new articles of faith or if we should stile our selues Iudges infallible and soveraigne of the poynts of faith Wee leaue these usurpations and proud titles to the Pope by the which hee exalteth himselfe aboue God Onely wee exhort the people to beleeue the Word of God contained in holy Scriptures wherein if wee finde any obscure passages wee take not upon us to bee Iudges of the sense and to determine it with authoritie It is enough that as much as therein is perspicuous and plaine not needing the helpe of an Interpreter is sufficient for our salvation And to contest much about Translations wee busie not our selues for the Translation approved by the Church of Rome fufficeth us discovering clearely therin the very condemnation of Papistry All Translations agree in the matters necessary to salvation and the originall texts both Hebrew and Greeke are at this day familiar and agreeing to our Translation Of these things haue I treated at large in my first Booke of The Iudge of Controversies and haue discussed all the slender objections wherein our Adversaries doe side with Pagans and Infidels and endeavour to extenuate the firmnesse and authoritie of the Scripture which Saint Paul calleth The divine Oracles Rom. 3. 2. and The Scripture diuinely inspired 1. Tim. 3. 16. which I say Iesus Christ himselfe hath uttered holding vp his owne vocation by the testimony of the Prophets and by it hath repelled the temptation of the Deuill Math. 4. Yea S. Paul saith that the Scripture can make a man wise to saluation and is most proper for mans accomplishment in euery good worke without it wee haue not meanes to know that God will haue but one Church in the world And when our aduersaries haue wretchedly reuiled it yet are they afterwards constrained to returne vnto it and to beg of it though with an ill stomacke some clauses of Text to found their Church vpon the Scriptures authority without it Christianity had beene long since abolished The diuine efficacy of it is manifest in this that the Pope hath suppressed it so as the people may not see it yet when God is pleased to lay it open to the peoples view and that it be translated into vulgar tongues Papistry doth immediatly vanish in many Prouinces Yea if Emperours and Kings had not hastened to succour vsing both fire and sword and the rigour of Inquisitions without doubt Papistry had beene vtterly extinguished Wherefore it is no maruell if the Pope by his scouts labour to blemish the Scripture rendring it doubtfull and without authority which vngodly instruments at this day borrow the weapons of Pagans who to restore Paganisme and ruine Christianity haue had no surer course then to difsame the holy Scripture Loe whither Satan strives to leade vs Hee striues to shake the only foundation of Christian religion to the end that the people distasting the Scripture may for their faith and saluation relye vpon the conductors of the Romish church wherein haue liued multitudes of Popes notorious heretickes and so iudged by the