error_n certain_o without_o a_o bias_n of_o interest_n or_o prejudice_n it_o be_v impossible_a for_o he_o to_o leave_v the_o church_n if_o he_o be_v in_o it_o or_o not_o return_v if_o he_o be_v out_o of_o it_o for_o if_o infallibility_n be_v the_o ground_n of_o the_o church_n power_n to_o command_v belief_n as_o she_o pretend_v no_o other_o no_o time_n no_o separation_n within_o memory_n of_o history_n can_v justify_v a_o continuance_n out_o of_o the_o church_n you_o may_v please_v to_o consider_v then_o how_o solid_a this_o doctor_n discourse_n be_v who_o tell_v we_o for_o his_o great_a evidence_n that_o we_o say_v he_o who_o do_v not_o acknowledge_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o be_v infallible_a may_v be_v allow_v to_o make_v certain_a supposition_n that_o follow_v there_o the_o question_n be_v whether_o a_o protestant_n be_v a_o schismatic_a because_o a_o protestant_n and_o he_o will_v prove_v he_o be_v not_o a_o schismatic_a because_o he_o go_v consequent_o to_o protestant_a that_o be_v schismatical_a ground_n i_o pray_v you_o reflect_v that_o not_o to_o acknowledge_v the_o church_n to_o be_v infallible_a be_v that_o for_o which_o we_o charge_v the_o doctor_n with_o schism_n and_o heresy_n in_o capite_fw-la and_o more_o than_o for_o all_o the_o rest_n he_o hold_v distinct_a from_o we_o for_o this_o principle_n take_v away_o all_o belief_n and_o all_o ground_n of_o belief_n and_o turn_v it_o into_o uncertainty_n and_o weathercock_n opinion_n put_v we_o into_o the_o condition_n to_o be_v circumferri_fw-la omni_fw-la vento_fw-la doctrinae_fw-la submit_v we_o to_o atheism_n and_o all_o sort_n of_o miscreancy_n let_v he_o not_o then_o overleap_a the_o question_n but_o either_o prove_v this_o be_v not_o sufficient_a to_o make_v he_o a_o schismatic_a and_o a_o heretic_n too_o or_o let_v he_o acknowledge_v he_o be_v both_o num._n 3_o this_o discourse_n thus_o enlarge_v to_o the_o consideration_n of_o fallibility_n and_o infallibility_n in_o a_o church_n be_v certain_o a_o digression_n in_o this_o place_n and_o take_v the_o occasion_n from_o some_o word_n of_o i_o sect._n 6._o of_o a_o concession_n of_o master_n knot_n it_o be_v a_o little_a necessary_a to_o recount_v what_o concession_n that_o be_v and_o the_o use_n that_o i_o there_o make_v of_o it_o that_o so_o it_o may_v appear_v whether_o there_o be_v any_o thing_n unblamable_a in_o my_o procedure_n num._n 4_o the_o subject_n i_o be_v upon_o sect._n 5._o be_v the_o undoubted_a lawfulness_n of_o be_v and_o continue_v exclude_v from_o any_o such_o church_n the_o condition_n of_o who_o communion_n contain_v sin_n in_o they_o to_o this_o head_n of_o discourse_n i_o mention_v a_o concession_n of_o master_n knot_n that_o it_o be_v perfect_o unlawful_a to_o dissemble_v aequivocate_v or_o lie_v in_o matter_n of_o faith_n and_o this_o as_o a_o confirmation_n of_o my_o then_o present_a assertion_n that_o when_o i_o be_o not_o permit_v by_o the_o romanist_n to_o have_v external_a communion_n with_o they_o unless_o i_o do_v thus_o dissemble_v equivocate_a and_o lie_v affirm_v myself_o to_o believe_v what_o i_o do_v not_o believe_v i_o may_v lawful_o continue_v thus_o exclude_v from_o their_o communion_n but_o then_o i_o can_v not_o just_o conceal_v what_o master_n knot_n there_o add_v as_o his_o conclusion_n from_o hence_o together_o with_o the_o acknowledge_a unlawfulnesse_n of_o forsake_v the_o external_a communion_n of_o god_n visible_a church_n that_o therefore_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v infallible_a because_o otherwise_o man_n may_v forsake_v her_o communion_n num._n 5_o here_o indeed_o i_o think_v it_o very_o strange_a that_o this_o conclusion_n shall_v be_v thus_o deduce_v from_o such_o praemiss_n that_o it_o shall_v be_v deem_v lawful_a to_o separate_v from_o a_o church_n for_o every_o error_n or_o for_o no_o more_o but_o be_v subject_n to_o error_n be_v fallible_a though_o it_o be_v actual_o guilty_a of_o no_o error_n which_o i_o conceive_v to_o be_v the_o same_o in_o effect_n as_o to_o affirm_v it_o lawful_a to_o forsake_v the_o communion_n of_o all_o but_o saint_n and_o angel_n and_o god_n in_o heaven_n because_o all_o other_o be_v peccable_a and_o fallible_a but_o yet_o i_o think_v not_o fit_a to_o go_v far_o out_o of_o my_o way_n to_o press_v the_o unreasonableness_n of_o it_o but_o content_v myself_o with_o that_o which_o be_v for_o my_o present_a turn_n his_o confession_n that_o it_o be_v lawful_a to_o separate_v or_o continue_v in_o separation_n from_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n in_o case_n we_o can_v not_o without_o lie_v etc._n etc._n be_v permit_v to_o communicate_v with_o it_o num._n 6_o this_o be_v the_o whole_a business_n as_o it_o lie_v visible_a to_o any_o in_o that_o 5._o and_o 6._o sect._n let_v we_o now_o see_v what_o a_o confusion_n be_v make_v to_o gain_v some_o small_a advantage_n from_o hence_o or_o excuse_v for_o a_o long_a digression_n num._n 7_o first_o it_o be_v the_o conclusion_n viz._n that_o any_o congregation_n that_o can_v lie_v &c._n &c._n can_v have_v power_n to_o bind_v any_o to_o believe_v what_o she_o say_v which_o he_o say_v be_v call_v by_o i_o master_n knot_n concession_n but_o this_o be_v a_o great_a mistake_n i_o never_o look_v on_o this_o as_o his_o concession_n never_o call_v it_o by_o that_o title_n but_o as_o a_o conclusion_n that_o he_o make_v a_o strange_a shift_n to_o deduce_v from_o another_o concession_n num._n 8_o a_o concession_n this_o gentleman_n shall_v in_o reason_n have_v understand_v to_o be_v somewhat_o which_o the_o adversary_n yield_v and_o which_o the_o disputer_n gain_v advantage_n by_o his_o yield_n it_o such_o be_v his_o assertion_n that_o all_o lie_v and_o dissemble_v be_v unlawful_a and_o that_o rather_o than_o that_o shall_v be_v admit_v it_o be_v lawful_a to_o forsake_v the_o external_a communion_n of_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n and_o that_o and_o nothing_o but_o that_o be_v by_o i_o cite_v as_o his_o concession_n num._n 9_o second_o that_o conclusion_n itself_o that_o the_o congregation_n that_o be_v fallible_a can_v have_v power_n to_o bind_v to_o believe_v be_v not_o so_o much_o as_o consider_v by_o i_o in_o that_o place_n or_o else_o where_o i_o say_v not_o one_o word_n against_o it_o which_o may_v provoke_v this_o objector_n to_o take_v it_o up_o and_o confirm_v it_o neither_o be_v it_o in_o the_o least_o needful_a or_o pertinent_a to_o the_o matter_n then_o in_o hand_n to_o enter_v into_o the_o consideration_n of_o it_o all_o that_o be_v by_o i_o take_v notice_n of_o and_o that_o but_o in_o pass_v be_v the_o consequence_n or_o coherence_n betwixt_o the_o praemiss_n and_o that_o conclusion_n which_o natural_o infer_v a_o three_o thing_n that_o it_o be_v in_o mr._n knot_n opinion_n lawful_a to_o forsake_v the_o communion_n of_o any_o fallible_a church_n which_o i_o think_v by_o the_o way_n will_v be_v sure_a to_o excuse_v we_o though_o we_o shall_v be_v grant_v to_o have_v forsake_v and_o continue_v wilful_o in_o separation_n from_o the_o roman_a church_n if_o it_o may_v but_o appear_v that_o either_o that_o be_v guilty_a of_o any_o one_o error_n or_o liable_a to_o fall_v into_o any_o one_o and_o this_o be_v entire_o all_o that_o be_v there_o say_v by_o i_o there_o be_v no_o reason_n i_o shall_v so_o far_o attend_v this_o gentleman_n in_o his_o digression_n as_o to_o consider_v what_o here_o he_o proceed_v to_o say_v upon_o his_o new-sprung_a subject_n of_o discourse_n very_o distant_a from_o that_o of_o schism_n to_o which_o i_o endeavour_v to_o adhere_v have_v elsewhere_o pursue_v at_o large_a the_o romanist_n other_o hypothesis_n concern_v their_o church_n infallibility_n num._n 10_o be_v it_o not_o thus_o remote_a from_o our_o matter_n in_o hand_n and_o perfect_o unnecessary_a to_o the_o defence_n of_o our_o church_n from_o schism_n i_o may_v discover_v far_o many_o infirm_a part_n in_o this_o procedure_n i_o shall_v but_o brief_o touch_v on_o some_o of_o they_o num._n 11_o 1._o for_o the_o truth_n of_o that_o proposition_n that_o a_o congregation_n that_o can_v lie_v i._n e._n a_o church_n that_o be_v fallible_a and_o know_v not_o i._n e._n have_v no_o infallible_a certainty_n whether_o it_o lie_v or_o no_o in_o any_o proposition_n can_v have_v power_n to_o bind_v any_o to_o believe_v what_o shesaith_o i_o may_v certain_o affirm_v 1._o that_o this_o be_v no_o infallible_a truth_n be_v no_o where_o affirm_v by_o any_o infallible_a speaker_n or_o deduce_v from_o any_o infallible_a principle_n for_o as_o to_o the_o scripture_n it_o be_v not_o pretend_v to_o be_v affirm_v by_o that_o and_o for_o natural_a reason_n that_o can_v be_v a_o infallible_a judge_n in_o this_o matter_n of_o define_v what_o power_n may_v be_v or_o be_v by_o god_n give_v to_o a_o church_n without_o define_v it_o infallible_a a_o prince_n may_v no_o doubt_n be_v impower_v by_o god_n
that_o lie_v between_o we_o and_o so_o still_o i_o discern_v not_o wherein_o our_o humility_n can_v be_v judge_v to_o fail_v by_o those_o with_o who_o i_o now_o dispute_v be_v content_a that_o it_o shall_v by_o other_o be_v judge_v excessive_a chap._n ix_o a_o answer_n to_o the_o exception_n make_v to_o the_o nine_o chapter_n sect._n i._n the_o hindrance_n of_o communion_n imputable_a to_o the_o romanist_n not_o to_o we_o siquis_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la non_fw-la audierit_fw-la one_o of_o our_o ground_n what_o be_v mean_v by_o ecclesia_fw-la num._n 1_o the_o exception_n to_o this_o chapter_n be_v not_o very_o great_a whether_o we_o respect_v their_o weight_n or_o number_n yet_o upon_o the_o same_o account_n that_o the_o former_a have_v be_v our_o exercise_n these_o may_v for_o a_o while_o detain_v we_o also_o num._n 2_o in_o his_o 9th_o chap_n say_v he_o he_o pretend_v the_o roman_n catholic_n church_n be_v cause_n of_o this_o division_n because_o they_o desire_v communion_n and_o can_v be_v admit_v but_o under_o the_o belief_n and_o practice_n of_o thing_n contrary_a to_o their_o conscience_n of_o which_o two_o proposition_n if_o the_o second_o be_v not_o prove_v the_o first_o be_v vain_a and_o be_v as_o if_o a_o subject_n shall_v plead_v he_o be_v unjust_o outlaw_v because_o he_o do_v not_o desire_v it_o now_o to_o prove_v the_o latter_a he_o assume_v that_o the_o protestant_n be_v ready_a to_o contest_v his_o negative_n by_o ground_n that_o all_o good_a christian_n ought_v to_o be_v conclude_v by_o what_o he_o mean_v by_o that_o i_o know_v not_o for_o that_o they_o will_v convince_v their_o negative_n by_o any_o ground_n a_o good_a christian_n ought_v to_o be_v conclude_v by_o i_o see_v nothing_o less_o what_o then_o will_v they_o contest_v it_o by_o all_o ground_n a_o good_a orthodox_n christian_n ought_v to_o be_v conclude_v by_o if_o they_o answer_v in_o the_o affirmative_a we_o shall_v ask_v they_o whether_o siquis_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la non_fw-la audierit_fw-la be_v one_o of_o their_o ground_n and_o if_o they_o say_v no_o we_o shall_v clear_o disprove_v their_o major_n but_o then_o their_o defence_n be_v if_o any_o ground_n or_o rule_v of_o itself_o firm_a and_o good_a speak_v nothing_o clear_o of_o a_o point_n in_o question_n they_o will_v contest_v that_o point_n by_o those_o ground_n and_o be_v not_o this_o a_o goodly_a excuse_n num._n 3_o the_o design_n of_o chap_n 9_o of_o the_o treatise_n of_o schism_n be_v to_o vindicate_v we_o from_o all_o guilt_n of_o schism_n as_o that_o signify_v offence_n against_o external_a peace_n and_o communion_n ecclesiastical_a and_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o we_o exclude_v none_o from_o our_o communion_n that_o acknowledge_v the_o foundation_n and_o that_o we_o desire_v to_o be_v admit_v to_o the_o like_a freedom_n of_o external_a communion_n with_o all_o member_n of_o all_o other_o christian_a church_n the_o result_n be_v visible_a that_o the_o hindrance_n that_o obstruct_v this_o freedom_n be_v whole_o imputable_a to_o the_o romanist_n such_o be_v their_o excommunicate_v we_o and_o impose_v condition_n on_o their_o communion_n such_o as_o we_o can_v admit_v of_o without_o sin_n or_o scandal_n act_v contrary_a to_o conscience_n or_o make_v a_o unsound_a confession_n num._n 4_o to_o this_o all_o that_o be_v answer_v be_v that_o unless_o this_o second_o be_v prove_v viz_o that_o such_o condition_n be_v by_o they_o impose_v on_o their_o communion_n the_o first_o that_o of_o our_o desire_n of_o communion_n be_v vain_a and_o to_o this_o i_o make_v no_o doubt_n to_o yield_v for_o if_o we_o may_v with_o a_o good_a conscience_n be_v admit_v to_o their_o communion_n and_o yet_o wilful_o withdraw_v ourselves_o from_o it_o than_o i_o confess_v there_o be_v no_o place_n for_o this_o plea_n of_o we_o but_o for_o the_o contest_a of_o this_o there_o be_v not_o then_o neither_o will_v there_o now_o be_v any_o place_n without_o descend_v to_o the_o several_n in_o difference_n between_o we_o which_o be_v beyond_o the_o design_n either_o of_o those_o or_o these_o paper_n and_o therefore_o for_o that_o all_o that_o can_v be_v say_v be_v that_o we_o be_v ready_a to_o maintain_v our_o negative_n by_o ground_n that_o all_o good_a christian_n ought_v to_o be_v conclude_v by_o and_o because_o it_o be_v here_o ask_v whether_o siquis_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la non_fw-la audierit_fw-la be_v one_o of_o those_o ground_n i_o answer_v without_o question_n it_o be_v and_o so_o be_v every_o other_o affirmation_n of_o christ_n or_o the_o apostle_n however_o make_v know_v to_o we_o to_o be_v such_o and_o i_o can_v sufficient_o admire_v why_o when_o it_o be_v know_v to_o all_o romanist_n that_o we_o be_v ready_a to_o be_v judge_v by_o scripture_n and_o when_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o siquis_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la non_fw-la audierit_fw-la be_v the_o word_n of_o scripture_n he_o shall_v suppose_v as_o here_o he_o do_v that_o we_o will_v say_v no_o i._n e._n that_o we_o will_v refuse_v to_o be_v try_v or_o conclude_v by_o that_o num._n 5_o here_o i_o must_v suppose_v that_o by_o ecclesiam_fw-la he_o understand_v the_o roman_a which_o he_o call_v catholic_n church_n but_o then_o this_o interpretation_n or_o understanding_n of_o he_o be_v one_o thing_n and_o those_o word_n of_o christ_n be_v another_o for_o they_o belong_v to_o the_o church_n indefinite_o under_o which_o any_o man_n that_o have_v offend_v be_v regular_o place_v do_v to_o a_o member_n of_o the_o particular_a roman_a church_n signify_v that_o as_o to_o a_o english_a man_n the_o church_n wherein_o he_o live_v and_o that_o be_v not_o the_o roman_a or_o the_o universal_a church_n of_o god_n and_o that_o be_v more_o than_o the_o roman_a num._n 6_o and_o so_o by_o acknowledge_v that_o ground_n of_o scripture_n we_o be_v no_o way_n oblige_v to_o believe_v all_o that_o that_o particular_a church_n of_o rome_n to_o which_o we_o owe_v no_o obedience_n and_o be_v as_o ready_a to_o contest_v that_o by_o the_o same_o mean_n also_o exact_v of_o we_o num._n 7_o as_o for_o our_o contest_v any_o point_n by_o that_o ground_n or_o rule_v which_o speak_v nothing_o clear_o of_o it_o i_o give_v he_o no_o occasion_n to_o make_v any_o such_o objection_n against_o we_o and_o withal_o have_v say_v what_o be_v sufficient_a to_o it_o chap._n 8._o sect._n 3._o n._n 7._o and_o so_o need_v not_o here_o far_o attend_v to_o it_o chap._n x._o a_o answer_n to_o the_o exception_n make_v to_o the_o ten_o chapter_n sect._n i._n the_o romanist_n want_n of_o charity_n wherein_o it_o consist_v num._n 1_o in_o his_o view_n of_o chap_n 10._o he_o take_v notice_n of_o two_o charge_n by_o we_o bring_v in_o against_o they_o 1._o judge_v 2._o despise_v their_o brethren_n but_o content_v himself_o with_o a_o very_a brief_a reply_n and_o that_o only_a to_o one_o of_o they_o thus_o num._n 2_o in_o his_o 10_o chap_n he_o say_v we_o judge_v they_o and_o despise_v they_o as_o to_o the_o first_o i_o have_v often_o wonder_v and_o do_v now_o that_o man_n pretend_v to_o learning_n and_o reason_n shall_v therein_o charge_v we_o with_o want_n of_o charity_n for_o if_o our_o judgement_n be_v false_a it_o be_v error_n not_o malice_n and_o whether_o true_a or_o false_a we_o press_v it_o upon_o they_o out_o of_o love_n and_o kindness_n to_o keep_v they_o from_o the_o harm_n that_o according_a to_o our_o belief_n may_v come_v upon_o they_o but_o since_o they_o deny_v they_o be_v schismatic_n and_o offer_v to_o prove_v it_o we_o must_v not_o say_v it_o yet_o i_o think_v we_o ought_v until_o we_o have_v cause_n to_o believe_v they_o since_o our_o high_a tribunal_n the_o church_n voice_n from_o which_o we_o have_v no_o appeal_n have_v pass_v judgement_n against_o they_o num._n 3_o the_o want_n of_o charity_n with_o which_o we_o charge_v the_o romanist_n in_o this_o matter_n be_v not_o their_o warn_v we_o of_o our_o danger_n which_o may_v reasonable_o be_v interpret_v love_n and_o kindness_n and_o care_v to_o keep_v we_o from_o harm_n and_o if_o they_o err_v in_o admonish_v when_o there_o be_v no_o need_n of_o it_o there_o be_v nothing_o still_o but_o charity_n in_o this_o but_o it_o be_v their_o cast_v we_o out_o of_o their_o communion_n on_o this_o score_n that_o we_o consent_v not_o to_o all_o their_o dictate_v that_o we_o withdraw_v our_o obedience_n from_o those_o who_o without_o right_n usurp_v it_o over_o we_o their_o anathematise_v and_o damn_v we_o and_o be_v no_o way_n perswadable_a to_o withdraw_v these_o sanguinary_a censure_n unless_o we_o will_v change_v or_o dissemble_v our_o belief_n and_o as_o there_o can_v be_v charity_n in_o this_o any_o thing_n that_o can_v tend_v to_o the_o mend_n of_o any_o for_o how_o can_v it_o be_v deem_v any_o act_n of_o reformation_n in_o any_o to_o forsake_v his_o present_a persuasion_n whilst_o he_o be_v
it_o for_o what_o injustice_n or_o tyranny_n etc._n etc._n can_v it_o be_v in_o any_o lawful_a superior_a have_v define_v what_o very_o he_o believe_v to_o be_v the_o truth_n of_o god_n and_o no_o way_n doubt_n of_o his_o have_v deduce_v it_o right_o from_o the_o scripture_n but_o yet_o know_v that_o he_o as_o a_o man_n be_v fallible_a and_o that_o it_o be_v possible_a he_o may_v have_v some_o way_n fail_v in_o this_o as_o in_o any_o other_o his_o most_o circumspect_a action_n what_o injustice_n i_o say_v can_v it_o be_v authoritative_o to_o direct_v this_o definition_n to_o those_o who_o be_v commit_v to_o his_o charge_n and_o expect_v their_o due_a submission_n to_o it_o mean_v by_o submission_n what_o i_o have_v here_o express_v to_o mean_v by_o it_o num._n 24_o so_o again_o it_o appear_v of_o the_o roman_a church_n how_o far_o it_o be_v from_o gentle_a or_o charitable_a in_o they_o to_o bind_v man_n to_o profess_v as_o matter_n of_o faith_n whatsoever_o be_v by_o that_o church_n define_v upon_o this_o one_o account_n that_o the_o church_n be_v infallible_a &_o can_v err_v when_o this_o very_a thing_n that_o it_o be_v infallible_a be_v not_o at_o all_o make_v probable_a much_o less_o infallible_o deduce_v from_o any_o reason_n or_o testimony_n that_o be_v infallible_a num._n 25_o next_o then_o when_o he_o say_v that_o the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n will_v be_v this_o whether_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v infallible_a or_o no_o i_o be_o not_o sure_a i_o know_v what_o question_n he_o mean_v whether_o the_o main_a question_n on_o which_o the_o tract_n of_o schism_n be_v write_v i._n e._n whether_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v schismatical_a or_o no_o or_o whether_o the_o particular_a question_n which_o this_o gentleman_n haste_n have_v frame_v to_o himself_o in_o this_o place_n whether_o a_o fallible_a church_n may_v have_v power_n to_o bind_v any_o to_o believe_v what_o she_o say_v but_o i_o suppose_v by_o some_o indication_n that_o the_o latter_a be_v it_o and_o then_o as_o from_o hence_o i_o learn_v what_o he_o mean_v by_o infallible_a a_o church_n that_o can_v possible_o err_v all_o who_o definition_n be_v such_o quibus_fw-la nequit_fw-la subesse_fw-la falsum_fw-la so_o until_o this_o be_v prove_v of_o that_o church_n i_o must_v be_v allow_v to_o speak_v like_o one_o who_o think_v not_o myself_o oblige_v to_o the_o belief_n of_o it_o and_o be_v sure_a of_o this_o that_o a_o protestant_n be_v or_o may_v be_v very_o persuade_v of_o some_o truth_n against_o which_o the_o roman_a church_n bind_v to_o profession_n of_o error_n mean_v by_o very_o persuade_v such_o a_o certainty_n only_o cui_fw-la non_fw-la subest_fw-la dubium_fw-la he_o have_v no_o doubt_n nor_o reason_n to_o induce_v doubt_v of_o it_o i_o can_v imagine_v how_o that_o part_n of_o my_o discourse_n wherein_o i_o have_v suppose_v or_o assert_v this_o can_v be_v either_o superfluous_a unnecessary_a or_o whatever_o other_o weakness_n it_o be_v guilty_a of_o contrary_a to_o myself_o for_o certain_o i_o that_o think_v i_o be_o fallible_a may_v yet_o very_o believe_v without_o all_o doubt_n the_o truth_n of_o many_o proposition_n which_o if_o i_o shall_v affirm_v myself_o not_o to_o believe_v i_o must_v doubtless_o lie_v and_o then_o sin_n by_o mr._n knot_n be_v former_a concession_n and_o it_o be_v as_o certain_a on_o the_o other_o side_n that_o he_o that_o pretend_v to_o have_v a_o infallible_a rule_n may_v yet_o foul_o mistake_v both_o in_o that_o general_a original_a and_o in_o many_o other_o particular_a derivative_a pretension_n his_o suppose_a infallibility_n if_o it_o be_v not_o right_o suppose_v and_o till_o it_o be_v prove_v it_o will_v not_o be_v so_o will_v be_v so_o far_o from_o a_o amulet_n to_o keep_v he_o safe_a from_o all_o error_n that_o it_o be_v the_o likely_a way_n to_o deliver_v he_o up_o to_o it_o as_o the_o premature_n persuasion_n of_o his_o particular_a election_n may_v be_v the_o ingulse_v any_o through_o security_n and_o presumption_n in_o the_o most_o certain_a ruin_n num._n 26_o in_o the_o process_n of_o this_o discourse_n he_o be_v please_v to_o mention_v four_o advantage_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n above_o any_o other_o antiquity_n possession_n persuasion_n of_o infallibility_n the_o pledge_n that_o christ_n have_v leave_v to_o his_o church_n for_o motive_n of_o union_n and_o nothing_o but_o uncertain_a reason_n on_o the_o other_o side_n which_o say_v he_o must_v make_v it_o impossible_a for_o any_o without_o interest_n or_o prejudice_n to_o leave_v the_o church_n if_o he_o be_v in_o it_o or_o not_o return_v if_o he_o be_v out_o of_o it_o num._n 27_o to_o this_o imaginary_a set_n of_o the_o scale_n between_o they_o and_o we_o and_o particular_o to_o the_o four_o advantage_n pretend_v to_o the_o pledge_n that_o christ_n leave_v for_o motive_n of_o union_n it_o be_v sufficient_a to_o reply_v in_o general_a that_o for_o we_o which_o have_v not_o voluntary_o separate_v but_o be_v by_o they_o violent_o remove_v from_o communion_n with_o they_o and_o can_v be_v admit_v to_o reunion_n but_o upon_o condition_n which_o without_o dissemble_v and_o lie_v we_o can_v undergo_v it_o be_v in_o vain_a to_o speak_v of_o motive_n or_o obligation_n to_o return_v to_o their_o communion_n we_o that_o be_v bind_v as_o much_o as_o in_o we_o lie_v to_o have_v peace_n with_o all_o man_n must_v not_o admit_v any_o know_v or_o wilful_a sin_n in_o order_n to_o that_o most_o desirable_a end_n and_o this_o one_o thing_n as_o alone_o it_o be_v pertinent_a to_o the_o matter_n in_o hand_n that_o of_o schism_n so_o it_o be_v necessary_o the_o conclude_v of_o this_o controversy_n we_o that_o be_v not_o permit_v to_o return_v and_o so_o we_o be_v if_o the_o condition_n of_o our_o return_n be_v so_o encumber_v as_o to_o include_v sin_n can_v with_o any_o justice_n or_o equity_n be_v charge_v for_o not_o return_v num._n 28_o against_o this_o here_o be_v nothing_o say_v any_o far_a than_o the_o bare_a mention_n of_o the_o three_o other_o advantage_n on_o their_o side_n and_o none_o of_o these_o be_v of_o any_o force_n to_o persuade_v our_o return_n upon_o such_o condition_n as_o these_o much_o less_o to_o exact_v it_o as_o duty_n from_o we_o num._n 29_o by_o antiquity_n and_o possession_n as_o here_o they_o be_v speak_v of_o i_o be_o apt_a to_o suppose_v he_o mean_v not_o antiquity_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n or_o the_o present_a doctrine_n and_o therefore_o i_o shall_v not_o speak_v of_o they_o but_o the_o antiquity_n of_o our_o communion_n with_o they_o if_o he_o mean_v a_o possession_n in_o the_o belief_n of_o the_o pope_n universal_a pastorship_n i_o shall_v have_v occasion_n to_o speak_v of_o that_o 1_o hereafter_o and_o if_o this_o be_v grant_v as_o for_o fraternal_a communion_n and_o such_o as_o be_v due_a from_o one_o sister_n church_n to_o another_o it_o be_v willing_o grant_v than_o this_o will_v divolve_v the_o blame_n on_o those_o who_o be_v guilty_a of_o this_o breach_n who_o have_v cast_v we_o out_o and_o permit_v we_o no_o way_n of_o return_v with_o a_o good_a conscience_n and_o so_o this_o be_v little_a for_o the_o romanist_n advantage_n num._n 30_o but_o if_o in_o stead_n of_o fraternal_a communion_n it_o be_v subjection_n to_o the_o roman_a see_v that_o be_v by_o his_o word_n claim_v and_o pretend_v to_o by_o possession_n then_o as_o we_o willing_o grant_v to_o that_o see_v all_o that_o the_o ancient_a canon_n allow_v to_o it_o and_o so_o can_v in_o that_o respect_n offend_v against_o antiquity_n so_o what_o contrary_a to_o those_o canon_n they_o have_v at_o any_o time_n assume_v and_o unlawful_o possess_v themselves_o of_o can_v no_o way_n be_v pretend_v to_o be_v their_o right_n or_o they_o to_o be_v bonae_fw-la fidei_fw-la possessores_fw-la true_a or_o fair_a possessor_n of_o it_o which_o qualification_n and_o condition_n be_v yet_o absolute_o necessary_a to_o found_v their_o plea_n from_o possession_n and_o which_o alone_o can_v bear_v any_o proportion_n with_o that_o which_o king_n can_v show_v for_o their_o crown_n or_o proprietary_n for_o their_o inheritance_n num._n 31_o of_o this_o head_n of_o possession_n or_o prescription_n it_o be_v easy_a to_o add_v much_o more_o by_o consider_v that_o claim_n and_o title_n by_o the_o know_a rule_n whether_o of_o the_o canon_n or_o civil_a law_n the_o civil_a law_n which_o be_v general_o more_o favourable_a to_o prescription_n do_v yet_o acknowledge_v many_o way_n of_o interrupt_v it_o as_o by_o call_v it_o into_o question_n and_o that_o be_v sufficient_o do_v in_o some_o case_n per_fw-la solam_fw-la conventionem_fw-la by_o cite_v or_o summon_v the_o possessor_n and_o when_o contestatio_fw-la litis_fw-la the_o enter_v a_o suit_n be_v actual_o require_v yet_o still_o he_o that_o appear_v to_o have_v cause_v the_o impediment_n and_o keep_v it_o
from_o come_v to_o this_o contestation_n be_v not_o to_o gain_v any_o advantage_n by_o his_o guilt_n but_o adversus_fw-la eum_fw-la lie_fw-la habetur_fw-la pro_fw-la contestato_fw-la he_o shall_v be_v look_v on_o as_o if_o the_o suit_n have_v be_v actual_o contest_v against_o he_o see_v bartolus_n in_o l._n si_fw-la eum_fw-la §_o qui_fw-la injuriarum_fw-la in_o fi_fw-la ff_n si_fw-la quis_fw-la caut_fw-fr num._n 32_o but_o as_o to_o the_o canon_n law_n which_o in_o all_o reason_n the_o catholic_n be_v to_o own_o in_o this_o question_n it_o be_v know_v that_o it_o admit_v not_o any_o the_o long_a prescription_n without_o the_o bonae_fw-la fidei_fw-la possessio_fw-la he_o that_o come_v by_o any_o thing_n dishonest_o be_v for_o ever_o oblige_v to_o restitution_n and_o for_o the_o judge_n of_o that_o allow_v of_o many_o way_n of_o probation_n from_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o thing_n the_o course_n we_o have_v take_v in_o this_o present_a debate_n and_o from_o other_o probable_a indication_n and_o where_o the_o appearance_n be_v equal_a on_o both_o side_n the_o law_n though_o it_o be_v wont_a to_o judge_v most_o favourable_o do_v yet_o incline_v to_o question_v the_o honesty_n of_o come_v to_o the_o possession_n and_o to_o presume_v the_o dishonesty_n upon_o this_o account_n because_o mala_fw-la fides_fw-la dishonesty_n be_v presume_v industrious_o to_o contrive_v its_o own_o secrecy_n and_o to_o lie_v hide_v in_o those_o recess_n from_o which_o at_o a_o distance_n of_o time_n it_o be_v not_o easy_o fetch_v out_o so_o felinus_n in_o c._n ult_n de_fw-fr prescript_n per_fw-la leg_n ult_n c._n unde_fw-la vi_fw-la and_o in_o a_o word_n it_o be_v the_o affirmation_n of_o the_o doctor_n presumi_fw-la malam_fw-la fidem_fw-la ex_fw-la antiquiore_fw-la adversarii_fw-la possessione_n the_o presumption_n be_v strong_a that_o the_o possession_n be_v not_o honest_o come_v by_o when_o it_o appear_v to_o have_v be_v ancient_o in_o the_o other_o hand_n and_o the_o way_n of_o conveyance_n from_o one_o to_o the_o other_o be_v not_o discernible_a see_v panormit_n and_o felinus_n in_o c._n si_fw-la diligenti_fw-la x_o the_o prescript_n menochius_fw-la arbit_fw-la quaest_n casu_fw-la 225._o n._n 4._o and_o other_o refer_v to_o by_o the_o learned_a grotiâ—â—_n in_o consil_n jurid_n super_fw-la iis_fw-la quae_fw-la nassavii_n p._n 36._o etc._n etc._n but_o i_o have_v no_o need_n of_o these_o nice_a disquisition_n num._n 33_o as_o for_o the_o persuasion_n of_o infallibility_n meaning_n as_o they_o must_v their_o own_o persuasion_n of_o it_o that_o can_v have_v no_o influence_n upon_o we_o who_o be_v sure_a that_o we_o be_v not_o so_o persuade_v unless_o the_o ground_n on_o which_o their_o persuasion_n be_v found_v be_v so_o convince_o represent_v to_o we_o that_o it_o must_v be_v our_o prejudice_n or_o other_o vicious_a defect_n or_o affection_n in_o we_o that_o we_o be_v not_o in_o the_o like_a manner_n persuade_v of_o it_o but_o on_o this_o we_o be_v know_v to_o insist_v and_o never_o yet_o have_v have_v any_o such_o ground_n offer_v to_o we_o as_o may_v in_o some_o measure_n appear_v by_o the_o view_n of_o that_o controversy_n as_o it_o lie_v visible_a in_o the_o book_n entitle_v the_o view_n of_o infallibility_n num._n 34_o as_o for_o the_o uncertainty_n of_o the_o reason_n on_o the_o protestant_n side_n by_o uncertainty_n meaning_n fallibility_n and_o the_o potest_fw-la subesse_fw-la falsum_fw-la while_o yet_o we_o be_v without_o doubt_v very_o persuade_v that_o our_o reason_n have_v force_n in_o they_o that_o can_v make_v it_o possible_a for_o we_o to_o believe_v what_o we_o do_v not_o believe_v or_o lawful_a upon_o any_o the_o fair_a intuition_n to_o profess_v contrary_a to_o our_o belief_n i_o believe_v that_o henry_n viii_o be_v king_n of_o this_o nation_n and_o the_o reason_n on_o which_o i_o believe_v it_o be_v the_o testimony_n of_o mere_a man_n and_o so_o fallible_a yet_o the_o bare_a fallibility_n of_o those_o testimony_n can_v infuse_v into_o i_o any_o doubt_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o they_o have_v no_o force_n to_o shake_v that_o but_o humane_a belief_n and_o while_o i_o thus_o believe_v i_o be_o sure_a it_o be_v wilful_a sin_n in_o i_o though_o for_o the_o great_a and_o most_o precious_a acquisition_n in_o my_o view_n to_o profess_v i_o do_v not_o believe_v it_o the_o like_a must_v be_v say_v of_o any_o other_o persuasion_n of_o i_o deny_v by_o the_o romanist_n and_o the_o deny_v whereof_o be_v part_n of_o the_o condition_n require_v of_o i_o to_o make_v i_o capable_a of_o communion_n with_o they_o num._n 35_o but_o it_o be_v not_o now_o time_n to_o insist_v on_o this_o both_o because_o here_o be_v nothing_o produce_v against_o it_o and_o because_o here_o follow_v a_o much_o high_a undertake_n which_o swallow_v up_o all_o these_o inferior_a difference_n between_o we_o viz_o that_o not_o to_o acknowledge_v the_o church_n that_o must_v be_v the_o roman_a church_n to_o be_v infallible_a be_v the_o great_a crime_n of_o schime_n and_o heresy_n in_o capite_fw-la and_o more_o than_o all_o that_o i_o hold_v distinct_a from_o the_o romanist_n num._n 36_o this_o i_o acknowledge_v be_v not_o foresee_v in_o the_o tract_n of_o schism_n and_o may_v serve_v for_o the_o una_fw-la litura_fw-la the_o one_o answer_n to_o remove_v all_o that_o be_v there_o say_v for_o if_o our_o grand_a fundamental_a schism_n and_o heresy_n be_v all_o sum_v up_o in_o this_o one_o comprehensive_a guilt_n our_o not_o acknowledge_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o be_v infallible_a than_o it_o be_v and_o still_o be_v impertinent_a to_o discourse_v on_o any_o other_o subject_n but_o that_o one_o of_o infallibility_n for_o if_o that_o be_v gain_v by_o they_o to_o belong_v to_o their_o church_n i_o be_o sure_a we_o be_v conclude_v schismatic_n and_o till_o it_o be_v gain_v i_o be_o sure_a there_o be_v no_o reason_n to_o suppose_v it_o num._n 37_o but_o then_o as_o this_o be_v a_o compendious_a way_n of_o answer_v the_o tract_n of_o schism_n and_o i_o wonder_v after_o he_o have_v say_v this_o he_o can_v think_v it_o seasonable_a to_o proceed_v to_o make_v exception_n to_o any_o other_o particular_n this_o one_o great_a mistake_n of_o the_o question_n be_v discover_v make_v all_o other_o more_o minute_n consideration_n unnecessary_a as_o he_o that_o have_v spring_v a_o mine_n to_o blow_v up_o the_o whole_a fort_n need_v not_o set_v wispe_n of_o straw_n to_o several_a corner_n to_o burn_v it_o so_o it_o fall_v out_o a_o little_a unlucky_o that_o this_o do_v not_o supersede_n but_o only_o remove_v this_o gentleman_n labour_n it_o be_v now_o as_o necessary_a that_o he_o shall_v defend_v his_o hypothesis_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n infallibility_n against_o all_o that_o be_v former_o say_v by_o i_o on_o that_o subject_n as_o now_o it_o be_v to_o make_v this_o answer_n to_o the_o book_n of_o schism_n and_o till_o that_o be_v do_v or_o attempt_v to_o be_v do_v there_o be_v nothing_o leave_v for_o i_o to_o reply_v to_o in_o this_o matter_n num._n 38_o for_o as_o to_o his_o bare_a affirmation_n that_o the_o not_o acknowledge_v their_o infallibility_n take_v away_o all_o belief_n and_o ground_n of_o belief_n turn_v all_o into_o uncertainty_n etc._n etc._n nay_o submit_v to_o atheism_n and_o all_o sort_n of_o miscreancy_n it_o be_v sure_a but_o a_o mistake_n or_o misunderstanding_n as_o of_o some_o other_o thing_n so_o particular_o of_o the_o nature_n of_o belief_n for_o beside_o that_o i_o may_v have_v other_o ground_n of_o belief_n than_o the_o affirmation_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n the_o authority_n of_o scripture_n for_o the_o severall_n contain_v in_o it_o and_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o universal_a primitive_a that_o sure_o be_v more_o than_o of_o the_o present_a roman_a church_n to_o assure_v i_o that_o what_o we_o take_v for_o scripture_n be_v scripture_n and_o to_o derive_v apostolical_a tradition_n to_o i_o and_o so_o i_o may_v believe_v enough_o without_o ever_o know_v that_o the_o roman_a church_n define_v any_o thing_n de_fw-fr fide_fw-la but_o much_o more_o without_o acknowledge_v the_o truth_n of_o all_o she_o define_v and_o yet_o much_o more_o without_o acknowledge_v her_o inerrable_a and_o infallible_a beside_o this_o i_o say_v it_o be_v evident_a that_o belief_n be_v no_o more_o than_o consent_n to_o the_o truth_n of_o any_o thing_n and_o the_o ground_n of_o belief_n such_o argument_n as_o be_v sufficient_a to_o exclude_v doubt_v to_o induce_v conviction_n and_o persuasion_n and_o where_o that_o be_v actual_o induce_v there_o be_v belief_n though_o there_o be_v no_o pretence_n of_o infallibility_n in_o the_o argument_n nor_o opinion_n of_o it_o in_o he_o that_o be_v persuade_v by_o it_o num._n 39_o that_o all_o that_o god_n have_v say_v be_v true_a i_o believe_v by_o a_o belief_n or_o persuasion_n cui_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la subesse_fw-la falsum_fw-la wherein_o i_o can_v
charity_n which_o be_v very_o much_o beside_o the_o principle_n of_o those_o protestant_n who_o pretend_v so_o much_o to_o the_o authority_n of_o counsel_n i_o think_v he_o shall_v have_v remember_v there_o may_v be_v schism_n against_o conciliatory_a authority_n whether_o this_o be_v call_v so_o when_o the_o council_n actual_o sit_v or_o in_o the_o unanimity_n of_o belief_n in_o the_o dispersion_n of_o the_o church_n so_o that_o the_o doctor_n suppose_v he_o conclude_v against_o the_o pope_n have_v not_o conclude_v himself_o no_o schismatic_n be_v separate_v form_n the_o catholic_n world_n and_o again_o in_o the_o next_o page_n by_o way_n of_o recollection_n or_o second_o thought_n thus_o but_o i_o must_v not_o forget_v here_o what_o i_o omit_v to_o insert_v before_o that_o in_o his_o division_n of_o schism_n he_o omit_v the_o principal_a if_o not_o indeed_o and_o in_o the_o use_n of_o the_o word_n by_o the_o ancient_n the_o only_a schism_n which_o be_v when_o one_o break_v from_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o god_n for_o though_o a_o breach_n make_v from_o the_o immediate_a superior_a or_o a_o particular_a church_n may_v in_o some_o sort_n and_o in_o our_o ordinary_a manner_n of_o speak_v be_v call_v a_o schism_n yet_o that_o by_o which_o one_o break_v away_o from_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n be_v proper_o and_o in_o a_o high_a sense_n call_v schism_n and_o be_v that_o out_o of_o which_o the_o present_a question_n proceed_v whereas_o other_o division_n as_o long_o as_o both_o part_n remain_v in_o communion_n with_o the_o universal_a church_n be_v not_o proper_o schism_n but_o with_o a_o diminutive_a particle_n so_o that_o in_o this_o division_n he_o leave_v out_o that_o part_n which_o appertain_v to_o the_o question_n num._n 3_o my_o division_n of_o schism_n be_v that_o which_o i_o can_v not_o conceive_v subject_a to_o the_o exception_n of_o any_o rational_a man_n of_o what_o persuasion_n soever_o schism_n be_v a_o breach_n of_o unity_n and_o communion_n as_o many_o sort_n as_o be_v conceivable_a of_o unity_n and_o communion_n so_o many_o and_o no_o more_o i_o set_v down_o of_o schism_n some_o as_o breach_n of_o the_o subordination_n which_o christ_n settle_v in_o his_o church_n other_o of_o mutual_a charity_n which_o he_o leave_v among_o his_o disciple_n num._n 4_o for_o be_v it_o not_o evident_a that_o all_o man_n in_o the_o world_n be_v either_o our_o superior_n or_o inferior_n or_o our_o equal_n and_o can_v i_o break_v communion_n with_o any_o as_o long_o as_o be_v a_o inferior_a i_o live_v regular_o under_o all_o my_o superior_n and_o brotherly_a with_o all_o my_o equal_n there_o be_v certain_o no_o place_n of_o doubt_n in_o this_o when_o therefore_o in_o his_o second_o period_n here_o set_v down_o he_o mention_n it_o as_o the_o principal_a and_o in_o the_o ancient_n use_v of_o the_o word_n the_o only_a schism_n when_o one_o break_v from_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o god_n it_o be_v strange_a he_o shall_v think_v that_o man_n be_v not_o comprise_v in_o either_o member_n of_o my_o division_n when_o certain_o he_o be_v guilty_a of_o both_o for_o how_o can_v he_o separate_v from_o the_o whole_a church_n unless_o he_o separate_v both_o from_o his_o superior_n and_o his_o equal_n too_o and_o if_o he_o separate_v from_o both_o then_o questionless_a he_o separate_v from_o one_o and_o from_o more_o than_o one_o of_o they_o num._n 5_o be_v it_o possible_a for_o any_o care_n more_o sollicitous_o to_o have_v prevent_v this_o exception_n than_o that_o which_o by_o i_o be_v use_v when_o among_o the_o branch_n of_o equality_n with_o which_o every_o one_o be_v oblige_v to_o preserve_v unity_n and_o communion_n i_o reckon_v up_o not_o only_o the_o believer_n of_o the_o same_o congregation_n etc._n etc._n but_o the_o several_a community_n of_o christian_a man_n from_o parish_n and_o diocese_n to_o clime_n of_o the_o whole_a christian_a world_n chap._n 3._o §_o 5._o and_o indeed_o it_o be_v a_o great_a piece_n of_o austerity_n that_o when_o i_o have_v endeavour_v to_o prove_v that_o we_o of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n have_v not_o voluntary_o separate_v and_o that_o only_o be_v the_o crime_n of_o schism_n from_o any_o one_o particular_a church_n and_o no_o one_o of_o those_o proof_n be_v invalidate_v nor_o as_o yet_o so_o much_o as_o except_v against_o it_o shall_v yet_o be_v think_v seasonable_a to_o reply_v that_o we_o have_v break_v off_o from_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o god_n num._n 6_o be_v not_o that_o whole_a make_v up_o of_o these_o several_n as_o a_o body_n of_o limb_n the_o universal_a of_o particular_n and_o can_v the_o hand_n be_v break_v off_o from_o the_o whole_a body_n when_o it_o be_v not_o break_v off_o but_o remain_v in_o perfect_a union_n with_o every_o part_n of_o the_o body_n if_o the_o arm_n be_v break_v from_o the_o body_n the_o hand_n which_o remain_v unite_v to_o the_o arm_n may_v yet_o be_v separate_a from_o the_o whole_a body_n because_o by_o be_v fasten_v to_o the_o arm_n it_o be_v unite_v but_o to_o one_o and_o not_o to_o all_o the_o member_n of_o the_o body_n but_o a_o union_n to_o all_o the_o member_n of_o the_o body_n suppose_v a_o separation_n from_o no_o one_o part_n that_o remain_v in_o the_o body_n and_o sure_a that_o must_v be_v a_o union_n with_o the_o whole_a body_n which_o be_v nothing_o else_o but_o all_o the_o member_n together_o num._n 7_o and_o so_o as_o his_o second_o thought_n be_v effect_n not_o remedy_n of_o his_o forgetfulness_n the_o very_a same_o which_o he_o have_v mention_v before_o under_o the_o style_n of_o separation_n from_o the_o catholic_n world_n so_o certain_o they_o be_v again_o effect_n of_o his_o inobservance_n that_o his_o principal_a sort_n of_o schism_n separation_n from_o the_o whole_a church_n be_v comprehend_v by_o i_o under_o this_o style_n separation_n from_o the_o several_a community_n of_o the_o whole_a christian_a world_n num._n 8_o as_o to_o the_o former_a branch_n of_o his_o exception_n that_o in_o my_o division_n of_o schism_n into_o that_o which_o be_v against_o monarchical_a i_o say_v and_o when_o he_o recite_v my_o word_n he_o shall_v do_v so_o too_o paternal_a power_n and_o that_o which_o be_v against_o fraternal_a charity_n i_o omit_v to_o mention_v the_o authority_n of_o counsel_n it_o be_v evident_o a_o causeless_a suggestion_n for_o 1._o if_o counsel_n as_o he_o say_v have_v any_o authority_n that_o will_v certain_o be_v reducible_a to_o paternal_a power_n and_o if_o they_o have_v none_o any_o far_a than_o by_o way_n of_o counsel_n and_o advice_n that_o will_v direct_o fall_v under_o the_o head_n of_o fraternal_a charity_n num._n 9_o second_o if_o by_o counsel_n he_o mean_v provincial_n counsel_n it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o power_n which_o several_o belong_v to_o the_o bishop_n of_o each_o province_n be_v unite_v in_o that_o of_o a_o provincial_n council_n where_o all_o the_o diocesan_n bishop_n be_v assemble_v and_o the_o despise_n of_o that_o be_v a_o offence_n under_o the_o first_o sort_n of_o schism_n a_o breach_n of_o the_o subordination_n to_o the_o bishop_n yea_o and_o the_o metropolitan_a too_o who_o preside_v in_o the_o provincial_n council_n num._n 10_o so_o again_o if_o he_o mean_v national_n counsel_n the_o power_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o all_o the_o province_n there_o assemble_v divolve_v upon_o this_o assembly_n compound_v of_o all_o of_o they_o the_o despise_v thereof_o be_v the_o despise_n of_o these_o ecclesiastical_a superior_n of_o the_o whole_a nation_n and_o culpable_a and_o schismatical_a upon_o that_o account_n num._n 11_o as_o for_o ecumenical_a or_o general_n counsel_n if_o they_o be_v true_o such_o the_o power_n of_o all_o the_o bishop_n of_o all_o the_o province_n in_o all_o christian_a nation_n divolve_v upon_o that_o and_o so_o can_v be_v despise_v without_o despise_v of_o all_o rank_n of_o our_o ecclesiastical_a superior_n bishop_n metropolitan_o primate_fw-la or_o patriarch_n and_o therefore_o this_o sort_n of_o schism_n can_v not_o be_v deem_v to_o be_v omit_v where_o all_o those_o other_o branch_n of_o which_o it_o be_v make_v up_o be_v so_o particular_o handle_v num._n 12_o that_o any_o more_o special_a consideration_n be_v not_o take_v of_o general_n counsel_n in_o that_o discourse_n the_o account_n beside_o that_o which_o be_v now_o give_v be_v more_o than_o intimate_v in_o that_o tract_n of_o schism_n pag._n 60._o first_o because_o they_o be_v remedy_n of_o schism_n and_o extraordinary_a not_o any_o stand_a judicature_n to_o which_o our_o constant_a subordination_n and_o subjection_n be_v require_v 2._o because_o these_o be_v such_o as_o without_o which_o the_o church_n continue_v for_o the_o first_o 300_o year_n and_o so_o can_v not_o belong_v to_o a_o general_a discourse_n which_o speak_v of_o all_o the_o certain_a and_o ordinary_a and_o constant_a sort_n
not_o convince_v of_o any_o error_n in_o they_o and_o sure_o the_o bare_a damn_v of_o we_o be_v not_o any_o such_o matter_n of_o conviction_n so_o there_o be_v a_o double_a uncharitableness_n 1._o of_o be_v angry_a without_o cause_n and_o express_v that_o anger_n in_o very_o ill_a language_n of_o which_o that_o of_o heretic_n and_o schismatic_a be_v the_o mild_a and_o each_o of_o those_o causeless_a too_o if_o they_o be_v affix_v to_o any_o particular_a man_n much_o more_o to_o a_o whole_a church_n before_o either_o of_o they_o be_v sufficient_o prove_v against_o we_o for_o certain_o as_o the_o romanist_n judgement_n concern_v we_o if_o it_o be_v false_a may_v yet_o be_v but_o error_n not_o malice_n by_o which_o this_o gentleman_n here_o justify_v himself_o from_o want_n of_o charity_n so_o our_o opinion_n and_o persuasion_n of_o the_o erroneousness_n of_o their_o doctrine_n and_o sinfulness_n of_o their_o practice_n if_o possible_o they_o be_v not_o true_a also_o be_v still_o as_o just_o and_o equitable_o capable_a of_o the_o same_o excuse_n that_o they_o be_v involuntary_a error_n and_o then_o by_o their_o own_o rule_n can_v just_o fall_v under_o such_o their_o rigid_a censure_n which_o belong_v to_o none_o but_o voluntary_a offender_n num._n 4_o second_o the_o endeavour_v to_o ensnare_v and_o pervert_v fearful_a or_o feeble_a mind_n use_v these_o terror_n as_o the_o lion_n do_v his_o roar_n to_o intimidate_v the_o prey_n and_o make_v it_o not_o rational_o but_o astonisht_o fall_v down_o before_o they_o and_o as_o the_o offering_n due_a ground_n of_o conviction_n to_o he_o that_o be_v in_o error_n may_v just_o be_v deem_v charity_n so_o this_o tender_a of_o nothing_o but_o fright_n without_o offer_n of_o such_o ground_n of_o conviction_n be_v but_o lead_v man_n into_o temptation_n to_o sin_n against_o conscience_n to_o dissimulation_n etc._n etc._n and_o so_o the_o hate_v the_o brother_n in_o the_o heart_n leu._n 19_o the_o more_o than_o suffer_a sin_n upon_o he_o num._n 5_o to_o these_o may_v be_v not_o unreasonable_o add_v a_o far_a consideration_n which_o have_v carry_v weight_n with_o the_o father_n of_o the_o church_n in_o all_o time_n that_o see_v the_o censure_n of_o the_o church_n be_v leave_v there_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o edification_n not_o for_o destruction_n and_o be_v only_o design_v to_o charitative_a end_n must_v never_o be_v use_v to_o any_o other_o purpose_n therefore_o when_o obedience_n it_o utter_o cast_v off_o the_o band_n be_v it_o of_o subordination_n or_o co-ordination_a so_o break_v that_o the_o issue_v out_o of_o censure_n can_v expect_v to_o compose_v but_o only_o to_o widen_v the_o breach_n not_o to_o mollify_v but_o exasperate_a there_o christian_a prudence_n be_v to_o endeavour_n by_o mild_a way_n what_o severity_n be_v not_o likely_a to_o effect_v and_o so_o the_o thunderbolt_n to_o be_v lay_v up_o till_o there_o may_v be_v some_o probability_n of_o do_v good_a by_o they_o num._n 6_o but_o this_o be_v not_o the_o case_n as_o it_o real_o lie_v betwixt_o rome_n and_o we_o save_v only_o as_o à _fw-la majori_fw-la it_o may_v be_v accommodate_v to_o we_o we_o have_v cast_v off_o neither_o obedience_n to_o any_o to_o who_o it_o be_v due_a nor_o charity_n to_o those_o who_o have_v least_o to_o we_o nor_o truth_n to_o the_o utmost_a of_o our_o understanding_n and_o yet_o we_o must_v be_v cast_v out_o and_o anathematise_v and_o after_o all_o that_o condemn_v as_o wilful_a schismatics_n i._n e._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d divider_n and_o condemner_n of_o ourselves_o because_o we_o quiet_o submit_v to_o that_o fate_n which_o will_v cost_v we_o too_o dear_a the_o wound_a and_o disquiet_a of_o our_o conscience_n to_o qualify_v ourselves_o for_o a_o capacity_n of_o get_v out_o of_o it_o num._n 7_o what_o he_o add_v of_o their_o high_a tribunal_n the_o church_n voice_n which_o have_v pass_v this_o judgement_n against_o we_o belong_v i_o suppose_v to_o those_o bishop_n of_o rome_n which_o have_v send_v out_o their_o bull_n against_o we_o and_o therefore_o i_o must_v in_o reason_n add_v that_o those_o be_v principal_o guilty_a of_o this_o schism_n and_o so_o their_o successor_n principal_o oblige_v to_o retract_v and_o reform_v the_o sin_n of_o it_o and_o after_o they_o all_z other_o in_o the_o order_n and_o measure_n that_o they_o have_v partake_v in_o this_o guilt_n with_o they_o num._n 8_o and_o there_o can_v be_v no_o great_a charity_n than_o to_o beseech_v all_o in_o the_o bowel_n of_o christ_n to_o return_v to_o the_o practice_n of_o that_o charity_n which_o have_v too_o long_o be_v exile_v from_o among_o christian_a professor_n chap._n xi_o a_o answer_n to_o the_o exception_n make_v to_o the_o last_o chapter_n sect._n i._n of_o the_o present_a state_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n the_o catholic_n promise_v for_o eternity_n to_o his_o church_n roma_fw-it aeterna_fw-la particular_a church_n perishable_a mr._n hooker_n prediction_n of_o the_o church_n the_o power_n of_o the_o secular_a magistrate_n to_o remove_v bishop_n see_v not_o to_o make_v bishop_n the_o council_n of_o florence_n concern_v the_o pope_n supremacy_n etc._n etc._n marcus_n opinion_n of_o it_o joseph_n methonens_fw-la his_o answer_n brief_o examine_v num._n 1_o the_o last_o part_n of_o this_o gentleman_n endeavour_n be_v to_o persuade_v man_n that_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v not_o only_o persecute_v but_o destroy_v and_o of_o that_o he_o mean_v to_o make_v his_o advantage_n to_o fetch_v in_o proselyte_n be_v out_o of_o his_o great_a charity_n very_o sensible_a of_o their_o estate_n unwilling_a they_o shall_v sit_v any_o long_o in_o the_o vault_n or_o charnel_n house_n to_o communicate_v with_o shade_n when_o they_o be_v invite_v to_o a_o fair_a sunshine_n in_o a_o vital_a and_o very_a flourish_a society_n thus_o than_o he_o begin_v his_o reply_n to_o the_o 11_o chapter_n num._n 2_o in_o the_o last_o chapter_n he_o complain_v of_o the_o catholic_n for_o reproach_v they_o with_o the_o loss_n of_o their_o church_n and_o argue_v with_o their_o disciple_n in_o this_o sort_n communion_n in_o some_o church_n even_o external_o be_v necessary_a but_o you_o can_v now_o communicate_v with_o your_o late_a church_n for_o that_o have_v no_o subsistence_n therefore_o you_o ought_v to_o return_v to_o the_o church_n from_o whence_o you_o go_v out_o true_o in_o this_o case_n i_o think_v they_o ought_v to_o pardon_v the_o catholic_n who_o have_v or_o undoubted_o be_v persuade_v he_o have_v a_o promise_n for_o eternity_n to_o his_o church_n and_o experience_n in_o the_o execution_n of_o that_o promise_n for_o 16_o age_n pol_n in_o which_o none_o other_o can_v compare_v with_o he_o and_o see_v another_o church_n judge_v by_o one_o of_o the_o learn_a and_o most_o prudent_a person_n confess_o that_o ever_o be_v among_o they_o to_o be_v a_o building_n likely_a to_o last_v but_o 80_o year_n and_o to_o be_v now_o tear_v up_o by_o the_o root_n and_o this_o do_v by_o the_o same_o mean_n by_o which_o it_o be_v settle_v i_o say_v if_o this_o catholic_n believe_v his_o eye_n he_o be_v at_o least_o to_o be_v excuse_v and_o though_o i_o know_v the_o doctor_n will_v reply_v his_o church_n be_v still_o in_o be_v preserve_v in_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n right_o ordain_v yet_o let_v he_o remember_v how_o inconsequent_a this_o be_v to_o what_o be_v have_v say_v before_o for_o ask_v he_o how_o it_o do_v remain_v in_o be_v if_o there_o be_v no_o such_o bishop_n or_o presbyter_n among_o they_o for_o his_o defence_n against_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v that_o the_o secular_a authority_n have_v power_n to_o make_v and_o change_v bishop_n and_o presbyter_n from_o whence_o it_o will_v follow_v that_o as_o they_o be_v set_v up_o by_o a_o secular_a authority_n so_o be_v they_o pull_v down_o and_o unbishoped_a by_o another_o secular_a authority_n if_o it_o be_v say_v the_o parliament_n that_o pull_v they_o down_o have_v not_o the_o three_o body_n requisite_a to_o make_v a_o parliament_n no_o more_o have_v that_o which_o set_v they_o up_o for_o the_o lord_n spiritual_a be_v want_v both_o in_o parliament_n and_o convocation_n so_o that_o there_o be_v as_o much_o authority_n to_o pull_v they_o down_o as_o to_o set_v they_o up_o but_o it_o will_v be_v reply_v that_o though_o they_o be_v pull_v down_o yet_o be_v they_o still_o bishop_n viz_o the_o character_n remain_v upon_o they_o alas_o what_o be_v their_o character_n if_o their_o mission_n of_o preach_v and_o teach_v be_v extinguish_v which_o follow_v their_o jurisdiction_n which_o jurisdiction_n the_o doctor_n make_v subject_a to_o the_o secular_a authority_n so_o that_o whatsoever_o character_n their_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n pretend_v to_o have_v they_o have_v according_a to_o his_o principle_n no_o power_n over_o the_o laity_n and_o so_o no_o character_n can_v
be_v make_v of_o any_o bishop_n as_o head_n and_o pastor_n and_o of_o the_o people_n as_o body_n and_o flock_n and_o consequent_o their_o church_n be_v go_v but_o we_o account_v ourselves_o bishop_n and_o priest_n not_o from_o a_o authority_n dependent_a upon_o prince_n or_o inherit_v from_o augustus_n or_o nero_n but_o from_o peter_n and_o paul_n and_o so_o shall_v stand_v and_o continue_v whatsoever_o prince_n or_o secular_a power_n decree_v when_o they_o according_a to_o their_o doctrine_n and_o argument_n be_v not_o to_o wonder_v if_o they_o be_v throw_v down_o by_o the_o same_o authority_n that_o set_v they_o up_o and_o as_o the_o synagogue_n be_v a_o church_n to_o have_v a_o end_n so_o be_v this_o with_o this_o difference_n that_o the_o synagogue_n be_v a_o true_a church_n in_o reference_n to_o a_o better_a but_o this_o be_v a_o counterfeit_n &_o tyrannical_a one_o to_o punish_v a_o better_a as_o concern_v the_o doctor_n prayer_n for_o peace_n and_o communion_n all_o good_a people_n will_v join_v with_o he_o if_o he_o produce_v fructus_fw-la dignos_fw-la poenitentiae_fw-la especial_o i_o he_o acknowledge_v the_o infallibility_n of_o the_o church_n and_o supremacy_n of_o the_o pope_n the_o former_a be_v explicate_v sufficient_o in_o divers_a book_n the_o latter_a be_v express_v in_o the_o council_n of_o florence_n in_o these_o word_n viz._n we_o define_v that_o the_o holy_a apostolical_a see_v and_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n have_v the_o primacy_n over_o all_o the_o world_n and_o that_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n be_v successor_n to_o s._n peter_n the_o prince_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o true_o christ_n vicar_n and_o head_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n and_o the_o father_n and_o teacher_n of_o all_o christian_n and_o that_o there_o be_v give_v he_o in_o saint_n peter_n from_o christ_n a_o full_a power_n to_o feed_v direct_a and_o govern_v the_o catholic_a church_n so_o far_o the_o council_n without_o obey_v this_o the_o doctor_n be_v a_o schismatic_a and_o without_o confess_v the_o other_o a_o heretic_n but_o let_v he_o join_v with_o we_o in_o these_o all_o the_o rest_n will_v follow_v num._n 3_o i_o shall_v not_o here_o repeat_v my_o complaint_n if_o it_o be_v indeed_o such_o and_o not_o rather_o a_o bare_a propose_v of_o a_o last_o foresee_v objection_n against_o we_o know_v how_o little_a compassion_n any_o suffering_n of_o we_o may_v expect_v to_o receive_v from_o this_o gentleman_n i_o shall_v only_o join_v issue_n with_o his_o tender_n of_o proof_n that_o our_o church_n have_v now_o no_o subsistence_n but_o yet_o before_o i_o do_v so_o take_v notice_n of_o one_o part_n of_o his_o argue_v viz._n that_o the_o catholic_a have_v or_o be_v undoubted_o persuade_v he_o have_v a_o promise_n for_o eternity_n to_o his_o church_n where_o certain_o the_o fallacy_n be_v very_o visible_a and_o sufficient_a to_o supersede_n if_o he_o shall_v advert_v to_o it_o his_o undoubted_a persuasion_n for_o what_o promise_n of_o eternity_n can_v this_o gentleman_n here_o reflect_v on_o undoubted_o that_o of_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n indefinite_o that_o the_o gate_n of_o hell_n shall_v not_o prevail_v against_o it_o mat._n 16._o 18._o num._n 4_o what_o be_v the_o full_a importance_n of_o that_o phrase_n be_v place_n elsewhere_o large_o show_v and_o need_v not_o be_v here_o any_o far_o repeat_v than_o that_o the_o promise_n infallible_o belong_v not_o to_o any_o particular_a church_n of_o any_o one_o denomination_n but_o to_o the_o whole_a body_n christ_n will_v preserve_v to_o himself_o a_o church_n in_o this_o world_n as_o long_o as_o this_o world_n last_v in_o despite_n of_o all_o the_o malice_n cunning_a or_o force_v of_o man_n and_o devil_n num._n 5_o now_o that_o this_o be_v no_o security_n or_o promise_v of_o eternity_n to_o any_o particular_a church_n whether_o of_o rome_n or_o england_n any_o more_o than_o of_o thyatira_n or_o laodicea_n which_o contrary_a to_o any_o such_o promise_n be_v threaten_v to_o be_v spew_v out_o rev._n 3._o 16._o be_v in_o itself_o most_o evident_a because_o the_o destroy_v any_o one_o particular_a church_n be_v reconcileable_a with_o christ_n preserve_v some_o other_o as_o the_o species_n of_o mankind_n be_v preserve_v though_o the_o gentleman_n and_o i_o shall_v be_v suppose_v to_o perish_v and_o because_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d my_o church_n which_o be_v there_o the_o subject_n of_o the_o discourse_n be_v not_o the_o romanist_n or_o in_o that_o sense_n the_o catholic_a his_o church_n as_o be_v here_o suggest_v but_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n build_v upon_o the_o foundation_n of_o the_o apostle_n of_o which_o simon_n be_v there_o say_v to_o be_v one_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i._n e_o stone_n or_o foundation-stone_n so_o as_o he_o be_v of_o other_o church_n beside_o that_o of_o rome_n and_o so_o as_o other_o be_v of_o other_o church_n which_o he_o never_o come_v near_o and_o even_o of_o this_o of_o rome_n saint_n paul_n as_o well_o as_o he_o num._n 6_o from_o hence_o therefore_o by_o force_n of_o this_o promise_n which_o as_o true_o belong_v to_o every_o church_n as_o it_o do_v to_o rome_n but_o indeed_o belong_v to_o no_o particular_a but_o to_o the_o christian_a church_n to_o conclude_v that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v eternal_a be_v a_o first_o ungrounded_a persuasion_n in_o this_o gentleman_n the_o very_a same_o as_o to_o conclude_v a_o particular_a be_v a_o universal_a or_o that_o the_o destruction_n of_o one_o part_n be_v the_o utter_a dissolution_n of_o the_o whole_a and_o the_o proof_n from_o experience_n of_o 16._o age_n which_o be_v here_o add_v be_v a_o strange_a way_n of_o argumentation_n such_o as_o that_o methusalem_n may_v have_v use_v the_o very_a day_n before_o his_o death_n to_o prove_v that_o he_o shall_v never_o die_v and_o the_o very_a same_o that_o heathen_a rome_n do_v use_v at_o the_o time_n of_o their_o approach_a destruction_n call_v herself_o algaâ—_n urbem_fw-la aeternam_fw-la the_o eternali_fw-la city_n and_o 1._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d rome_n the_o heaven-city_n and_o prudentius_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d rome_n a_o goddess_n which_o according_o have_v by_o adrian_n a_o temple_n erect_v to_o it_o and_o the_o emperor_n thereof_o and_o the_o very_a name_n of_o the_o place_n worship_v as_o a_o deity_n more_n deae_fw-la nomenque_fw-la loci_fw-la seu_fw-la numen_fw-la adorant_fw-la and_o all_o this_o upon_o this_o one_o score_n that_o it_o have_v stand_v and_o prosper_v so_o long_o num._n 7_o the_o like_a may_v be_v affirm_v of_o the_o church_n of_o the_o jew_n build_v upon_o a_o promise_n which_o have_v more_o of_o peculiarity_n to_o the_o seed_n of_o abraham_n than_o this_o of_o mat._n 16._o can_v be_v imagine_v to_o have_v to_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o yet_o that_o church_n be_v destroy_v and_o nothing_o more_o contribute_v to_o the_o provocation_n and_o merit_n of_o that_o destruction_n than_o their_o own_o confidence_n of_o be_v unperishable_a the_o best_a admonition_n in_o this_o respect_n be_v that_o of_o the_o apostle_n be_v you_o not_o high_a mind_v but_o fear_n and_o if_o god_n spare_v not_o the_o natural_a branch_n take_v heed_n also_o lest_o he_o spare_v not_o you_o and_o this_o gentleman_n can_v be_v ignorant_a what_o 2._o church_n it_o be_v that_o be_v then_o capable_a of_o this_o exhortation_n and_o the_o very_o make_v this_o matter_n of_o argument_n and_o in_o this_o respect_n not_o of_o purity_n but_o of_o duration_n exalt_v the_o romanist_n church_n above_o all_o other_o church_n in_o these_o word_n none_o other_o can_v compare_v with_o he_o as_o it_o be_v one_o character_n which_o determine_v the_o speech_n to_o the_o particular_a church_n of_o rome_n for_o else_o how_o can_v he_o speak_v of_o other_o and_o affirm_v that_o they_o can_v compare_v so_o it_o be_v no_o very_o humble_a or_o consequent_o christian_a expression_n in_o this_o gentleman_n num._n 8_o what_o he_o add_v out_o of_o master_n hooker_n and_o apply_v as_o the_o judgement_n of_o that_o learned_a man_n concern_v the_o church_n of_o england_n yield_v we_o these_o far_a observation_n 1._o that_o in_o all_o reason_n this_o gentleman_n must_v in_o his_o former_a word_n speak_v of_o his_o church_n of_o rome_n as_o that_o be_v a_o particular_a church_n for_o else_o how_o can_v he_o after_o his_o church_n name_v another_o church_n mean_v this_o of_o england_n of_o which_o say_v he_o mr._n hooker_n speak_v and_o that_o will_v conclude_v the_o evident_a falsity_n of_o his_o assumption_n that_o by_o christ_n promise_n eternity_n belong_v to_o it_o for_o that_o it_o can_v do_v to_o any_o particular_a church_n because_o the_o universal_a may_v be_v preserve_v when_o that_o be_v destroy_v and_o the_o promise_n be_v make_v indefinite_o to_o the_o church_n may_v be_v perform_v in_o any_o part_n of_o it_o num._n 9_o second_o that_o a_o
man_n and_o be_v much_o cry_v up_o for_o so_o do_v the_o british_a still_o adhere_v to_o their_o way_n and_o answer_v he_o that_o absque_fw-la consensu_fw-la &_o licentiâ_fw-la suorum_fw-la without_o consent_n and_o licence_n of_o their_o whether_o ruler_n of_o church_n or_o whatsoever_o other_o superior_n also_o their_o metropolitan_a i_o suppose_v which_o can_v be_v think_v to_o have_v be_v with_o they_o at_o this_o be_v certain_o none_o of_o the_o seven_o bishop_n which_o be_v affirm_v to_o have_v be_v present_a at_o the_o late_a convention_n they_o can_v not_o forsake_v their_o ancient_a custom_n four_o that_o upon_o proposal_n it_o be_v agree_v that_o they_o shall_v have_v a_o second_o meeting_n at_o which_o be_v present_v seven_o british_a bishop_n which_o other_o writer_n express_v to_o have_v be_v the_o bishop_n of_o hereford_n landaff_n bangor_n s._n assaph_n worcester_n paternensis_fw-la morganensis_fw-la and_o many_o other_o learned_a man_n especial_o the_o nobilissimo_fw-la eorum_fw-la monasterio_n quod_fw-la voco_fw-la lingua_fw-la anglorum_fw-la bancornaburg_n cui_fw-la tempore_fw-la illo_fw-la dinooth_n abbas_n praefuisse_fw-la narratur_fw-la of_o the_o famous_a monastery_n of_o bangor_n of_o which_o dinooth_n be_v abbot_n at_o that_o time_n five_o that_o before_o they_o go_v to_o this_o meeting_n they_o be_v advise_v by_o a_o religious_a person_n who_o direction_n they_o ask_v to_o observe_v diligent_o the_o behaviour_n of_o augustine_n when_o they_o come_v whether_o he_o be_v meek_a and_o lowly_a in_o heart_n a_o mark_n by_o which_o they_o may_v know_v whether_o he_o have_v take_v christ_n yoke_n upon_o he_o and_o consequent_o whether_o it_o be_v the_o yoke_n of_o christ_n which_o he_o now_o desire_v to_o impose_v upon_o they_o and_o upon_o augustine_n fit_v still_o upon_o his_o stool_n or_o seat_n and_o never_o rise_v up_o with_o any_o civility_n or_o humility_n at_o their_o approach_n they_o be_v so_o displease_v say_v bede_n that_o they_o contradict_v all_o the_o proposal_n that_o he_o make_v to_o they_o six_o that_o upon_o his_o make_v three_o proposition_n to_o they_o concern_v easter_n baptism_n and_o preach_v to_o the_o english_a and_o promise_v to_o bear_v with_o they_o in_o all_o other_o difference_n of_o which_o sort_n say_v he_o there_o be_v many_o wherein_o their_o practice_n be_v contrary_a consuetudini_fw-la nostrae_fw-la imò_fw-la vniversalis_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la to_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o roman_a yea_o the_o universal_a church_n they_o answer_v nihil_fw-la horum_fw-la se_fw-la facturos_fw-la nec_fw-la illum_fw-la pro_fw-la archiepiscopo_fw-la habituros_fw-la that_o they_o will_v not_o comply_v with_o he_o in_o any_o of_o they_o nor_o acknowledge_v he_o for_o their_o archbishop_n upon_o which_o follow_v that_o rough_a sanguinarie_a answer_n of_o augustine_n quod_fw-la si_fw-la pacem_fw-la cum_fw-la fratribus_fw-la accipere_fw-la nollent_fw-la bellum_fw-la ab_fw-la hostibus_fw-la forent_fw-la accepturi_fw-la that_o if_o they_o will_v not_o accept_v of_o peace_n with_o brethren_n they_o shall_v have_v war_n from_o enemy_n and_o as_o it_o follow_v in_o very_o plain_a language_n per_fw-la anglorum_fw-la manuâ—_n ultienem_fw-la mortis_fw-la essent_fw-la passuri_fw-la the_o hand_n of_o the_o english_a shall_v act_v a_o bloody_a revenge_n upon_o they_o which_o it_o seem_v soon_o after_o follow_v and_o fall_v in_o a_o eminent_a manner_n on_o the_o monk_n of_o bangor_n of_o which_o order_n there_o be_v at_o that_o time_n above_o two_o thousand_o who_o live_v all_o by_o the_o labour_n of_o their_o own_o hand_n for_o say_v he_o king_n edilfred_n of_o northumberland_n come_v with_o a_o great_a army_n to_o câ—erleon_n make_v his_o first_o onset_n on_o their_o priest_n who_o be_v assemble_v by_o themselves_o to_o fast_o and_o pray_v for_o their_o brethren_n as_o moses_n hold_v up_o his_o hand_n in_o prayer_n while_o josua_n hold_v up_o he_o in_o sight_v and_o upon_o no_o other_o provocation_n take_v notice_n of_o by_o the_o historian_n but_o this_o that_o they_o fight_v against_o he_o with_o their_o prayer_n contra_fw-la nos_fw-la pugnant_fw-la qui_fw-la adversus_fw-la noâ—_n in_o precaâ—iâ—s_n ibus_fw-la prosequuntur_fw-la he_o first_o set_v upon_o they_o kill_v 1000_o of_o they_o and_o then_o destroy_v the_o whole_a army_n sicque_fw-la compieâ—um_fw-la est_fw-la praesagium_fw-la sancti_fw-la pontificis_fw-la augustini_fw-la and_o so_o the_o presage_n of_o the_o holy_a bishop_n st._n augustine_n be_v fulfil_v upon_o they_o these_o particular_n of_o the_o story_n i_o have_v thus_o puctual_o set_v down_o in_o obedience_n to_o the_o rebuke_n of_o this_o author_n who_o p._n 412._o charge_v it_o upon_o sir_n hen_n spelman_n and_o those_o other_o that_o borrow_v out_o of_o he_o as_o a_o want_n of_o wilingness_n to_o see_v the_o truth_n &_o of_o fidelity_n to_o comâ—nicate_v it_o to_o other_o that_o they_o have_v choose_v to_o reflect_v on_o that_o testimony_n which_o he_o be_v please_v to_o call_v upstart_n and_o which_o appear_v not_o till_o within_o these_o 15_o year_n and_o not_o upon_o that_o true_a antiquity_n which_o have_v endure_v the_o shock_n of_o almost_o a_o 1000_o year_n sir_n henry_n have_v a_o little_a before_o transcribe_v out_o of_o bede_n wherein_o say_v he_o every_o one_o may_v read_v first_o that_o miracle_n in_o give_v sight_n to_o the_o blind_a man_n than_o that_o divine_a vengeance_n prophetical_o foretell_v by_o augustine_n 413._o which_o in_o his_o opinion_n more_o than_o sufficient_o prove_v that_o s._n augustine_n send_v by_o the_o pope_n come_v in_o the_o name_n of_o god_n from_o a_o lawful_a authority_n and_o that_o his_o demand_n of_o conformity_n to_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n in_o the_o point_v specify_v be_v good_a and_o to_o be_v yield_v to_o by_o the_o britain_n in_o this_o matter_n i_o may_v now_o fit_o enlarge_v and_o examine_v the_o force_n of_o this_o twofold_a argument_n that_o of_o the_o miraculous_a cure_n and_o that_o of_o the_o predicted_a vengeance_n and_o offer_v many_o thing_n to_o consideration_n concern_v each_o head_n for_o the_o former_a 1._o the_o no_o great_a credit_n that_o have_v be_v give_v to_o the_o relation_n of_o bede_n on_o this_o head_n of_o miracle_n of_o which_o his_o story_n be_v so_o rich_o furnish_v together_o with_o the_o great_a deceit_n that_o such_o pretension_n have_v be_v experiment_v to_o subject_a man_n to_o second_o the_o confession_n of_o bede_n that_o the_o britain_n be_v be_v concederent_fw-la unwilling_a to_o yield_v to_o this_o trial_n of_o their_o cause_n and_o according_o when_o he_o say_v that_o the_o cepit_fw-la blind_a man_n be_v offer_v to_o the_o priest_n of_o the_o britain_n he_o receive_v no_o cure_n or_o benefit_n by_o they_o he_o do_v not_o so_o much_o as_o pretend_v that_o the_o britain_n be_v attempt_v to_o do_v the_o miracle_n and_o fail_v in_o it_o but_o leave_v we_o to_o resolve_v that_o they_o whole_o wave_v this_o trial_n three_o that_o if_o the_o miracle_n be_v grant_v to_o be_v a_o true_a miracle_n and_o a_o testimony_n of_o god_n assert_v the_o doctrine_n than_o contest_v between_o they_o yet_o this_o will_v not_o be_v any_o concludent_fw-la testimony_n for_o the_o pope_n supremacy_n but_o only_o for_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v then_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o question_n the_o time_n of_o the_o observation_n of_o easter_n the_o rite_n of_o baptism_n accustom_v in_o the_o roman_a church_n and_o at_o the_o most_o some_o such_o like_a tradition_n wherein_o the_o british_a custom_n vary_v from_o that_o of_o rome_n for_o this_o be_v the_o form_n of_o the_o propose_a trial_n quae_fw-la sequenda_fw-la traditio_fw-la quibus_fw-la sit_fw-la viis_fw-la ad_fw-la ingressum_fw-la regni_fw-la illius_fw-la properandum_fw-la what_o tradition_n be_v to_o be_v follow_v in_o the_o celebration_n of_o easter_n that_o which_o the_o britain_n have_v receive_v and_o retain_v from_o their_o first_o conversion_n impute_v to_o a_o apostle_n or_o apostolical_a person_n simon_n zelotes_n or_o joseph_n of_o arimathea_n or_o that_o which_o the_o roman_n deduce_v from_o s._n peter_n by_o what_o way_n they_o be_v to_o hasten_v to_o entrance_n into_o that_o kingdom_n refer_v i_o suppose_v to_o the_o rite_n of_o baptism_n the_o second_o head_n of_o debate_n between_o they_o and_o in_o both_o these_o as_o also_o in_o refuse_v to_o join_v with_o augustine_n in_o the_o common_a work_n of_o preach_v to_o the_o gentile_n it_o may_v easy_o be_v grant_v by_o we_o that_o the_o truth_n be_v on_o the_o romanist_n side_n and_o not_o on_o the_o britain_n without_o yield_v a_o supremacy_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n over_o the_o british_a church_n four_o that_o the_o britain_n by_o bede_n confession_n acknowledge_v themselves_o convince_v by_o that_o miracle_n that_o the_o way_n of_o righteousness_n which_o augustine_n preach_v be_v the_o true_a way_n yet_o add_v that_o they_o can_v not_o renounce_v their_o ancient_a custom_n without_o the_o consent_n and_o licence_n of_o their_o own_o superior_n which_o evident_o confine_n and_o determine_v the_o