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A36252 A reply to Mr. Baxter's pretended confutation of a book entituled, Separation of churches from episcopal government, &c. proved schismatical to which are added, three letters written to him in the year 1673, concerning the possibility of discipline under a diocesan-government ... / by Henry Dodwell ... Dodwell, Henry, 1641-1711. 1681 (1681) Wing D1817; ESTC R3354 153,974 372

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episcopo_fw-la duma_n also_o mention_v by_o mr._n baxter_n be_v send_v as_o bishop_n of_o that_o new_a colony_n of_o christian_n ordinatus_fw-la à_fw-la finano_n episcopo_fw-la 22._o sigbercht_v king_n of_o the_o east_n saxon_n be_v baptize_v by_o the_o same_o finan_n baptizatus_fw-la est_fw-la à_fw-la finano_n episcopo_fw-la and_o when_o cedd_v a_o holy_a person_n be_v invite_v by_o sigbercht_v for_o the_o conversion_n of_o his_o people_n he_o take_v occasion_n to_o make_v a_o visit_n at_o lindisfarn_n the_o seat_n of_o the_o northumbrian_n bishop_n propter_fw-la colloquium_fw-la finani_fw-la episcopi_fw-la where_o he_o be_v make_v bishop_n by_o finan_n vocatis_fw-la ad_fw-la se_fw-la in_o ministerium_fw-la ordinationis_fw-la aliis_fw-la duobus_fw-la episcopis_fw-la qui_fw-la accepto_fw-la gradu_fw-la episcopatûs_fw-la rediit_fw-la ad_fw-la provinciam_fw-la &_o majore_fw-la autoritate_fw-la coeptum_fw-la opus_fw-la explens_fw-la fecit_fw-la per_fw-la loca_fw-la ecclesias_fw-la presbyteros_fw-la &_o diaconos_fw-la ordinavit_fw-la etc._n etc._n we_o see_v here_o how_o punctual_a observer_n of_o the_o canon_n these_o scotish_n bishop_n be_v notwithstanding_o our_o adversary_n will_v fain_o persuade_v we_o that_o themselves_o be_v ordain_v by_o presbyter_n because_o the_o monk_n of_o the_o isle_n of_o hii_n though_o bishop_n be_v subject_a to_o their_o abbot_n though_o only_o a_o presbyter_n as_o to_o the_o rule_n of_o their_o monastic_a discipline_n for_o the_o sake_n of_o their_o first_o founder_n columba_n who_o never_o exceed_v the_o order_n of_o presbyter_n but_o mr._n baxter_n will_v do_v well_o to_o let_v we_o know_v what_o use_n they_o can_v have_v have_v of_o bishop_n at_o all_o 10._o if_o it_o be_v not_o to_o perform_v some_o office_n for_o which_o no_o superiority_n of_o their_o presbyter_n abbot_n in_o the_o monastery_n can_v qualify_v they_o without_o bishop_n and_o what_o either_o then_o or_o ever_o be_v take_v for_o so_o unseparable_a a_o right_n of_o episcopacy_n as_o ordination_n if_o therefore_o they_o be_v willing_a their_o presbyter_n abbot_n shall_v for_o the_o sake_n of_o columba_n have_v all_o the_o honour_n of_o which_o a_o presbyter_n be_v capable_a and_o yet_o think_v it_o necessary_a to_o have_v bishop_n also_o for_o their_o ordination_n be_v not_o this_o a_o plain_a conviction_n that_o they_o think_v this_o office_n of_o ordination_n not_o performable_a by_o single_a presbyter_n and_o how_o have_v it_o be_v a_o unusual_a order_n as_o bede_n express_o say_v it_o be_v that_o presbyter_n if_o such_o only_o have_v be_v mean_v by_o the_o name_n of_o bishop_n shall_v have_v be_v subject_a to_o the_o abbot_n who_o be_v also_o a_o presbyter_n but_o to_o fancy_v that_o the_o office_n of_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n be_v confound_v in_o those_o late_a age_n of_o which_o we_o be_v discourse_v whatever_o they_o be_v in_o the_o apostle_n be_v indeed_o a_o fancy_n so_o extravagant_a as_o mr._n baxter_n can_v hardly_o have_v be_v guilty_a of_o if_o he_o have_v be_v either_o so_o ingenuous_a or_o skilful_a in_o church_n history_n as_o he_o will_v fain_o persuade_v we_o but_o so_o far_o be_v those_o ancient_a scot_n from_o invade_v this_o right_n of_o episcopacy_n that_o as_o to_o ordination_n they_o strict_o observe_v even_o our_o present_a canon_n three_o bishop_n be_v at_o the_o consecration_n of_o a_o bishop_n who_o when_o he_o be_v thus_o consecrate_v and_o not_o before_o have_v that_o great_a authority_n of_o ordain_v presbyter_n and_o deacon_n which_o it_o hence_o appear_v be_v not_o allow_v to_o any_o under_o bishop_n but_o to_o return_v from_o whence_o i_o have_v digress_v finan_n and_o aidan_n be_v both_o of_o they_o express_o say_v again_o to_o have_v be_v bishop_n and_o not_o only_o so_o but_o the_o cathedral_n church_n of_o finan_n be_v mention_v again_o by_o bede_n 25._o interim_n aidano_n episcopo_fw-la de_fw-fr hac_fw-la vita_fw-la sublato_fw-la finan_n pro_fw-la illo_fw-la gradum_fw-la episcopatus_fw-la à_fw-la scotis_n ordinatus_fw-la ac_fw-la missus_fw-la acceperat_fw-la qui_fw-la in_o insula_fw-la landisfarnensi_fw-la fecit_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la episcopali_fw-la sedi_fw-la congruam_fw-la 26._o again_o concern_v the_o dispute_n between_o wilfred_n and_o coleman_n facta_fw-la est_fw-la autem_fw-la haec_fw-la quaestio_fw-la anno_fw-la dominicae_fw-la incarnationis_fw-la dclxiv_o qui_fw-la fuit_fw-la annus_fw-la oswi_n regis_fw-la xii_o episcopatus_fw-la autem_fw-la scotorum_fw-la quem_fw-la gesserunt_fw-la in_o provincia_fw-la anglorum_fw-la annus_fw-la xxx_o siquidem_fw-la aidanus_fw-la xvii_o annis_fw-la finan_n x_o coleman_n iii_n episcopatum_fw-la tenuere_fw-la yet_o after_o all_o it_o be_v very_o well_o know_v that_o our_o english_a succession_n even_o in_o the_o kingdom_n of_o northumberland_n be_v not_o derive_v down_o to_o we_o from_o coleman_n the_o last_o of_o those_o scotish_n bishop_n but_o from_o wilfrede_v a_o saxon_a who_o succeed_v he_o i_o wish_v 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those_o gift_n and_o qualification_n have_v thereby_o a_o essential_a right_n to_o the_o power_n and_o he_o that_o bestow_v those_o gift_n do_v thereby_o bestow_v the_o power_n and_o they_o who_o can_v bestow_v they_o can_v consequent_o dispose_v of_o the_o power_n 2._o that_o god_n alone_o have_v the_o disposal_n of_o these_o
great_a part_n of_o those_o presbytery_n of_o which_o they_o be_v original_o member_n and_o out_o of_o lawful_a assembly_n must_v on_o these_o account_n be_v not_o only_o irregular_a but_o invalid_a too_o here_o therefore_o no_o presbyter_n be_v at_o all_o make_v and_o therefore_o it_o be_v in_o vain_a to_o talk_v of_o charter_n to_o prove_v the_o power_n of_o legal_a presbyter_n when_o these_o be_v not_o the_o person_n of_o who_o those_o charter_n speak_v and_o who_o power_n they_o be_v conceive_v to_o describe_v and_o the_o same_o be_v applicable_a also_o to_o the_o commonalty_n neither_o can_v they_o exert_v any_o power_n of_o which_o they_o may_v otherwise_o have_v be_v capable_a but_o by_o majority_n of_o vote_n and_o in_o regular_a assembly_n if_o they_o do_v it_o be_v null_a by_o the_o fundamental_a principle_n even_o of_o democratical_a government_n this_o therefore_o will_v destroy_v the_o validity_n of_o their_o second_o ordination_n though_o their_o first_o have_v be_v 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